09
Jul
11

‘siroto, the nancy grace of politics’

You have to see this reply at Salon to David Siroto’s latest diatribe, it’s majestic:

The Aggressive Progressive: Sirota = The Nancy Grace of Politics. Actually, Nancy Grace’s understudy.

Really that honor goes to Glenn Greenbeck.

GG is basically Nancy Grace at this point…his entire shtick is now just exclusively Outrage Porn. Hysterical, breathless, hyperbolic, pearl-clutching Outrage Porn for the diehard core of emotionally unstable weirdos that are addicted to it.

….Here’s proof that Sirota is a fucking parasitical douchenozzle that is making a career profiting off of fomenting Obama Derangement Syndrome among so called “progressives” – back 3 days before Obama’s Inauguration, he wrote a piece of shit concern/outrage troll piece basically saying that Obama’s Presidency was a failure…NEGATIVE FOUR DAYS before the guy even came to office! I mean, holy shit! Even the entirety of the right wing waited for the guy do get sworn in before they released the hounds. Sirota couldn’t even wait that long:


Biased much? So of course he’s going to construct a wall of lies to create this false reality to contort to his own personal vendetta against the man.

I would also remind anyone (although in vain as Salon is pretty much FUBAR); whether an inbred retarded neoconfederate racist bucktoothed teabagger brandishing a mispelled racist sign on a rascal scooter, or a Mommy’s basement anarcho-nihilist Greenbeck who is also addicted to ODS Outrage Porn; the following:

Obama Derangement Syndrome is not an organizing principle or philosophy of governance.

****

The comments under these ‘Outrage Porn’ posts at Salon are always amusing. They usually start like this (from under Sirota’s post):

They all agree, ‘the Obots keep playing the race card’, and then they write stuff like this (again, all from under the Siroto post):

Who exactly is obsessed with the color of the President’s skin?


44 Responses to “‘siroto, the nancy grace of politics’”


  1. July 9, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Way to go, Chips. Keep on exposing these vultures.

  2. July 9, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Well it’s on. Boner says no dice to PBO according to HuffPo.

    • 3 Brian
      July 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      But he wants to go back to the points of the Biden committee? The one that Little Eric Cantor walked out of in a huff? I get the feeling that our President is already playing masterful chess and that tomorrow is going to be “must-see TV”!

      • 4 desertflower
        July 9, 2011 at 9:57 pm

        From what I read, Boner doesn’t want the “BIG $4trillion/10 year deal” he wants a much smaller one/ WTH? Someone explain to me again who is serious about the debt?????????????? Please. How does this work?

        • 5 Tally
          July 9, 2011 at 9:59 pm

          Because he wants to change it in 2013 – which ain’t gonna happen. Not now that they’ve shown the world what insane, out of touch, spoiled children they are.

        • 6 Bobfr
          July 9, 2011 at 10:06 pm

          Boehner, Cantor, et al are about to have a Sunday about as pleasant as the one Osama had on 2 May 2011.

          Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  3. 8 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Great article Chips. Let’s keep exposing their lies. They have woken a sleeping beast and we will not remain silent. We demand truth and when they refuse to adhere to truth we do not let up until their lies are stopped. Kudos Chips.

  4. 9 Brian
    July 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Wow! Just wow! I tracked the Aggressive Progressive’s original post, and (s)he also has a great follow-up response to another poster. My favorite is a reminder to critics that there is more than just one branch of government. Strong pushback!

  5. 10 ChristiMtl
    July 9, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Holy cow Chips, you’re really on a roll these days exposing these hypocrites……good job!

  6. 11 Tally
    July 9, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    I posted this at the end of the Hamster thread, but it’s appropriate here as well – sorry for the verbosity… and can I say how much I love the new meme “pearl-clutching” :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I been thinking about all of this long and hard, and I think majii nailed a big part of it with her comment (also on the Hamster – ha ha thread) ”…or her focus is on driving traffic to her blog and increasing her profits.” But it’s PART of something else:

    An old friend who runs a left blog – the one who I wrote the rant to that Chips posted as
    http://theobamadiary.com/2011/06/17/a-few-words-from-tally/ – who I wrote to when he asked what his blog readers would like to see more of, has been losing readership ever since Obama took office.

    His readership has fallen for several reasons, but allow me to give a little background first. He started his blog sometime in the late 90′s, and gained popularity towards the end of the Clinton administration because of his enormous support for him, knowledge and hatred for the Bush family, and brilliantly funny way he wrote. But at that point, he still had a day job and the blog was a hobby.

    During the 2000 election disaster his blog exploded, since a bazillion people awoke to politics when the rightwing court appointed a president over the will of the people, and an honest recount of their votes. Needless to say, many of us were looking for a way to fight back, and the internet exploded as well.

    During the 8 year national nightmare of the Ex-Texas Governor’s occupation of The White House, he received so much support and money he was able to quit his day job and virtually retire and write his blog and make a nice living at it. (Granted, he lives in a very inexpensive area of the country too so that helped.)

    During the 2008 election, as a big Clinton supporter, he went all-in for Hillary, and was a little miffed when Obama won the Primary, but was a good Democrat and got behind him.

    I’m sure each and every one of you remember the outright ELATION of election night of 2008, and the ecstasy of Grant Park. From that moment, Bush virtually (and joyfully) retired, and Obama stepped up and began putting everything in place so he could go to work January 21st, 2009. Because, let’s face it, over 30-years of Rightwing fuck ups, systematic deregulation, dismantling of the Middle Class, and the largest distribution of wealth in this nation’s history wasn’t going to be accomplished overnight.

    Many MANY people gave a huge sigh of relief since the smartest guy ever was now the POTUS, and we (theoretically) had control of both Houses of Congress. Many people stopped hanging on the blogs and went back to their lives because the adults were back in charge, and they assumed they’d do their jobs. Some of his support left then. Just because part of the fight was over.

    I have said time and again, that Americans have the memories of goldfish, and many people, Dems included, forgot the eight year war the GOP waged on President Clinton. Having said that, many of us didn’t forget, and expected it from day one – we just didn’t expect them to act this crazy, as in non-stop filibustering, and Palin becoming the rightwing’s own Charles Manson.

    To handle this new warfront, my friend’s blog lost all the funny, and turned into a virtual angry daily of What Would Hillary Do? Hillary would fight harder, and has more experience, etc. etc. etc. He lost a LOT of subscribers then.

    Then he doubled down on that and added, “And when Obama folds again…” etc etc etc ad nauseam. He lost MORE people. A lot of his readers, myself included, begged him to stop and support the POTUS, and reminded him of – everything I said in my rant – and kept telling him YOU ARE NOT HELPING. YOU ARE HURTING US AND YOURSELF. But he didn’t listen, and is not listening to this day.

    There are two things at work:

    1. These people who make a living blogging and having an opinion, make more money when their side is losing. When there is something to fight about. If the GOP regain power, they think their readers will come back, support them, and take up the banner and fight the good fight. Well, I hate to be the harbinger of fate and bad news, but the only thing I believe will happen, is they will BLAME THEM, and HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE. If they were my employees, I’d have to fire them for burning down my business and driving my clientele away.

    2. They are under the delusion Hillary will primary Obama, even when she has said numerous times, NO. Of course, most of them won’t say her name at this point, they say, SOMEONE PLEASE – when they mean Hillary. They are still hanging onto a hope that doesn’t exist. (Besides, she’d be better suited for a lifetime gig on the SCOTUS than an 8 year gig as POTUS anyway, and until we get five women on that court it will never be a fair representation of the population of this country.)

    Most of these EmoFauxProgs are diehard Hillary supporters, and are still enraged that Obama beat her. They could care less if she ran, and split and destroyed the entire Left/Progressive movement.

    They also have no real clue about Obama, or the reason NO ONE WHO KNOWS HIM WILL PRIMARY HIM. Those that do know him, know they’ll get buried, because he is THE SMARTEST GUY TO EVER HOLD THE OFFICE.

    I feel sorry for some of these people. I feel many of them meant well, but have clearly lost their way. My friend isn’t even making money on clicks any more because no one goes to his page. Many of us tried to help. I still hope he sees the light. I thought he would with the Birth Certificate/Trump Takedown/Bin Laden **Weekend of Epicness**, but if he did, it was fleeting.

    He’s my friend, so I care. Although I’m losing hope. He lost all reason this week with that stupid unsourced Washington Post article, and couldn’t be talked away from the cliff even when I explained that Obama has said NO CUTS IN **BENEFITS** – words matter! He acts like he’s from the future, and knows that the Ryan Plan is already in place…..

    I’m so thankful TOD and BWD are here. I’d be lost without my family. ❤¹⁰

    • July 9, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      Tally,
      I am dying to know who this is. Really. I wouldn’t go there and out you or anything, Just wondering.

    • 13 Bobfr
      July 9, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      This is an insightful and essential analysis, tally.

      You note:

      “Most of these EmoFauxProgs are diehard Hillary supporters, and are still enraged that Obama beat her. They could care less if she ran, and split and destroyed the entire Left/Progressive movement.

      They also have no real clue about Obama, or the reason NO ONE WHO KNOWS HIM WILL PRIMARY HIM. Those that do know him, know they’ll get buried, because he is THE SMARTEST GUY TO EVER HOLD THE OFFICE.”

      If any of them could step back for a moment and realize two elemental facts:

      1. SoS Clinton deeply admires Barack Obama;
      2. SoS Clinton is a masterful politician and knows that if she were ever to primary a sitting President she’d have had to have begun doing so no later than Jan 2010 by resigning as SoS and building an organization even more formidable than the one she built between 2004 and 2007.

      SoS Clinton can do political calculus as well as any contender, ever. Her dedication to the President should have been a mega-clue to the likes of Krugman and many others that it was time for them to get a life and do everything they possibly could to support President Obama – just as she has.

      Clearly, she is dedicated to finishing her job and will do something else after Jan 2013.

      In any event, plenty of Americans have a clue and more will join our ranks in the days and months ahead.

      The Republic will be stronger, the arc of justice bent a bit more toward the goals of the Declaration of Independence come Jan 2013 and even more in the years and decades ahead.

      We’ve done the Civil War thing, the Great Depression thing, the WW1 and WWII and Cold War thing … and America will be the beacon of humanity well after I’m dust.

      Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

        • 15 utaustinliberal
          July 9, 2011 at 10:12 pm

          Once again Tally, EPIC. Just fucking EPIC. Are you sure you haven’t been on the receiving end of some Wild Crazy Monkey Sex (WCMS)? From a human, a handheld, or a machine. *Wink Wink.* Because to keep churning out these braingasms, one has to have received a real curl your toes, scream until the windows shatter orgasm that release endorphins which allow you to put fingers to the keyboard and BLOW MY FREAKING MIND!!!!

          • 16 Tally
            July 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm

            :lol:

            Actually…… at my advanced age, unless it’s 24/7, it’s never enough.

            I hear George Clooney and Bruce Boxleitner are newly single – could you guys send them my way please?
            :D

    • 17 desertflower
      July 9, 2011 at 10:10 pm

      thanks, Tally…it must be painful to see the slowmotion decent…I happen to know that what you’re saying is correct about Hillary….I actually read where some commenter actually said “Hillary” could do this better than Obama. That was just today. God…they need to give it a rest.

  7. 18 halo
    July 9, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    John Boehner pulls out of ‘big deal’ on debt ceiling

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58630.html#ixzz1Rf6vIsD1

    WHAT A LOSER! PBO offered a deal that was historic and Sir Orange couldn’t say YES.

  8. 19 QuietObserver
    July 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Chipsticks, you’ve been doing some great work. I initially fell in love with this place because of its purpose of serving as a visual history of this historic presidency, but now that you’ve gotten into this investigative work to…watch out PLs! What the more shallow thinkers don’t realize is that this is how you make a counter-argument: with facts and sources to shut them down.

    • July 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm

      Thank you so much QO. I only ever intended this place to offer some photo/video light relief …. but then I get angry and post all that other stuff! Really appreciate your comment QO, thank you again.

      • 21 sherijr
        July 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm

        Girlfriend I Iike your anger- keep this stuff coming. I always knew these people- greenwald, Hamsher, sirota.. the lot of them were kooks- I am sooo glad the facts of their true beliefs and connections are coming out.
        Thank you for putting this all together. Keep spilling the beans and rocking the boat :)

  9. 23 Bobfr
    July 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Dear Ms Chipsticks,

    As you know a proposal was made to you and Deaniac and others called the “World of FactCraft.” It was intended to be a ‘gaming’ strategy for enticing folk to scout, detect and destroy all the lies that newstainers and their lamestream media script writers and producers vomit onto the American people, 24/7.

    At the time of the proposal it had not been fully anticipated that among those newstainers and otherwise truth distortionists, would be the painfully banal, incessantly whinny, ever-seeking of cash flow and narcissistic ego-fixes that we have all begun to realize are the characteristics of Jane and GG, Sirota and Krugman, Cenk and Ed, Rachel and …… we all know who they are.

    You, the folk at TPV, and elsewhere on the web are doing a masterful job revealing just how pathetically obvious these people are – they have an agenda that is totally indistinguishable from the teabaggers and their genetic precursors – the Birchers, the secessionists, and other sociopaths.

    We are so fortunate that it is 9 July 2011 and not 9 July 2012 in that we have way more than a year to crystallize in the minds of the majority of Americans that the fringe in either direction – left or right – is indistinguishably lethal for the well being of the majority of Americans, for the sustainability of the Republic and all that our amazingly robust experiment in participatory democracy has achieved these past 235 years.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • July 9, 2011 at 9:52 pm

      Hiya Bob,

      Ah, I missed the ‘World of FactCraft’ proposal!! But I love the sound of it! Honestly, I would give anything to be able to team up with a bunch of good people on a site solely dedicated to opposing these frauds – and I think a site, for that sole purpose, is desperately needed. But infuriatingly I just wouldn’t have the time to contribute regularly – as it is, my boss wonders what I get up to all day :oops: But if something like that was set up, I’d be only too happy to contribute – I’m In!

      • 25 Bobfr
        July 9, 2011 at 10:01 pm

        I have the same time constraints, Chipsticks.

        Here’s what I posted at TPV and Deaniac seemed intrigued. Perhaps you, BWD, Deaniac and the others at TPV could communicate with each other and decide how you might team on the endeavor. My sense is you could ‘crowd source’ it and find many talented people, some with not only talent but $$$, to partner.

        Posted at TPV on 3 April 2011:

        “What I’m envisioning is a gaming strategy.

        Call it ‘World of FactCraft’

        BWD’s place here could be Command and Control.

        You’d have ‘scouts’ – folk who would have assignments to monitor high visibility sites (NBC, CBS, Fox, HuffnPuff/AOL, CNN, Al Jazeera (yes), NYTimes, WaPo, LATimes, campaign blogs of candidates (both R & D), ……). They would hover on their assigned site(s) for whatever amount of time they have available. Folk (and here is where our offshore allies in non US time zones can really be helpful as to give us near 24 h scouting coverage) would check in to C&C, get their assignment, hover, and would have lists of facts on a wide range of facts, ready.

        When an flagrant lie (most of what we know we will be confronting 24/7 from now until ED 2012) is detected the scout posts a suitable fact or two, copies the URL of the specific comment section, and returns to C&C and posts the URL and a quick synopsis. C&C then launches as many folk who are currently lurking, tweets those who’ve indicated that at various intervals they will be ready to respond, and a swarm of calm, factual armed BWDers hit the comment section with a series of posts targeting the original post and any comments supporting the original post. Never nasty, zero snark, just fast paced, overwhelming truth.

        Every time a scout performs a task they receive points, similarly for those who swarm and post and report back by posting the URL of their comment at C&C.

        Having that stream of scout report URLs and comment URLs will enable others to see levels of activity at the various sites being targeted and can enable them to follow-up with additional factual comments should it be clear that more attention to particularly flagrant lies is required.

        In addition to scouts and swarmers, you’d have fact compilers, the folk who’d be scouring various reports, speeches, video libraries, etc., and assembling and updating the fact lists that would be available to the scouts and swarmers.

        And, you’d have a trusted set of C&C folk who’d be making the assignments of sites to have under surveillance.

        You could imagine attracting a sizable number of folk to such an endeavor.

        Just a thought.”

        To whatever extent I can, I would participate.

        Warm regards,
        Bob

        • 26 Tally
          July 9, 2011 at 10:10 pm

          DO IT!!!!!!

        • July 9, 2011 at 10:19 pm

          There are some pretty magnificent suggestions in there Bob, I have to head for bed now, but I’ll talk to you very soon about this, so much good stuff in there to mull over. Thanks Bob.

        • 31 Isabel
          July 10, 2011 at 12:57 am

          Monitoring radio would also be good. That is also where Sirota spews his nonsense… AM760.net weekdays 7am to 10am MT. If you think his article was bad, just listen to him sneer at callers, laugh like a maniac at callers and tell his lies or half-truths. Half-truths are his specialty. Making something seem really bad when he is only quoting a small portion of a quote. I have had to stop listening to him because he is just not worth the increase in blood pressure, to me, but he gets lots of callers who think that he is really special. He really thinks that he is always right about everything.

        • 32 mb32
          July 10, 2011 at 1:17 am

          I like this idea! Would love to help anyway I can…

  10. 33 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    These people who call themselves liberals but are willing to throw the well being and future of the country under the bus just to stick it to President Obama are, FUCKTARDS. They’re always commenting on his color in a denigrating, snide manner, then pretend they’re not racists. Frankly people who visit those faux progressive sites and leave those deranged comments are RACIST, SCUMSUCKING, BOTTOM FEEDING, ASSHOLES, DOUCHEBAG FUCKTARDS. Enough is enough! Thanks for exposing them Chipsticks; everytime I learn more stuff it makes me that much more determined to make sure President Obama is re-elected. With so called friends like these, who the hell needs rightwing teapublican teabaggers. They are supposed to be standing up for and defending the President, yet they stab him in the back whatever chance they get. We’re on to your shyster ways ASSHATS.

    • 34 Tally
      July 9, 2011 at 10:02 pm

      I am so glad to know that Princess Potty Mouth has such a qualified assistant!

      ❤ ❤ ❤

    • 40 EDP4BHO
      July 9, 2011 at 10:17 pm

      ” They are supposed to be standing up for and defending the President, yet they stab him in the back whatever chance they get.”

      “They” are not supposed to stand up for and defend the President, because “they” are not nor ever have been, his base. This is divide and conquer from day one of this administration. They played it brilliantly as “supporters” in the beginning, when all along their aim was to sabotage his Presidency. I tell you all, this is what the rethugs had in mind all along, and I don’t and won’t see it any other way. I never trusted all those phony smiles on inauguration day. Boehner and all of them were in it for the glory of the day. That’s all it was. They and the so-called left have never impressed me otherwise. You don’t denigrate someone you understand and support because you don’t get everything you want. I tell you, they are FAKES ! It’s time we squash the outrage here and just diligently work to re-elect our President, who is my leader of the day.

  11. 42 lisalovesobama
    July 9, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Did I really just read one of the comments posted by Ms Chips from the “Outrage Porn” article that said that the individual was a “white liberal” who would be voting repug in order to “stop Obama”? Is that tool for real? Are people really that stupid? Wow. Why do these so called liberals or progressives constantly surprise me with their stupidity? It’s gotten to the point where there stupidity has gotten dangerous, not just laughable.

    • July 9, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      They are not stupid, just dangerous IMHO. Now that their camouflage is being ripped to pieces, even bigger fight ahead but we are revving up to win. Thank you TODers for so many tools. I’m tech challenged but I can talk forward all this great info you bring.

  12. July 10, 2011 at 9:56 am

    “Side Show Animal Barker” is another fitting description.


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