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deal done

Details on the deal here

THE PRESIDENT:  Good evening.  There are still some very important votes to be taken by members of Congress, but I want to announce that the leaders of both parties, in both chambers, have reached an agreement that will reduce the deficit and avoid default — a default that would have had a devastating effect on our economy.

The first part of this agreement will cut about $1 trillion in spending over the next 10 years — cuts that both parties had agreed to early on in this process.  The result would be the lowest level of annual domestic spending since Dwight Eisenhower was President — but at a level that still allows us to make job-creating investments in things like education and research.  We also made sure that these cuts wouldn’t happen so abruptly that they’d be a drag on a fragile economy.

Now, I’ve said from the beginning that the ultimate solution to our deficit problem must be balanced.  Despite what some Republicans have argued, I believe that we have to ask the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share by giving up tax breaks and special deductions.  Despite what some in my own party have argued, I believe that we need to make some modest adjustments to programs like Medicare to ensure that they’re still around for future generations.

That’s why the second part of this agreement is so important.  It establishes a bipartisan committee of Congress to report back by November with a proposal to further reduce the deficit, which will then be put before the entire Congress for an up or down vote.  In this stage, everything will be on the table. To hold us all accountable for making these reforms, tough cuts that both parties would find objectionable would automatically go into effect if we don’t act.  And over the next few months, I’ll continue to make a detailed case to these lawmakers about why I believe a balanced approach is necessary to finish the job.

Now, is this the deal I would have preferred?  No.  I believe that we could have made the tough choices required — on entitlement reform and tax reform — right now, rather than through a special congressional committee process.  But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year.

Most importantly, it will allow us to avoid default and end the crisis that Washington imposed on the rest of America.  It ensures also that we will not face this same kind of crisis again in six months, or eight months, or 12 months.  And it will begin to lift the cloud of debt and the cloud of uncertainty that hangs over our economy.

Now, this process has been messy; it’s taken far too long.  I’ve been concerned about the impact that it has had on business confidence and consumer confidence and the economy as a whole over the last month.  Nevertheless, ultimately, the leaders of both parties have found their way toward compromise.  And I want to thank them for that.

Most of all, I want to thank the American people.  It’s been your voices — your letters, your emails, your tweets, your phone calls — that have compelled Washington to act in the final days. And the American people’s voice is a very, very powerful thing.

We’re not done yet.  I want to urge members of both parties to do the right thing and support this deal with your votes over the next few days.  It will allow us to avoid default.  It will allow us to pay our bills.  It will allow us to start reducing our deficit in a responsible way.  And it will allow us to turn to the very important business of doing everything we can to create jobs, boost wages, and grow this economy faster than it’s currently growing.

That’s what the American people sent us here to do, and that’s what we should be devoting all of our time to accomplishing in the months ahead.

Thank you very much, everybody.

President Obama smiles briefly while approaching the podium to speak in the briefing room at the White House about the debt negotiations, July 31

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Steve Benen: …. It’s done. It’s a deal. That doesn’t mean passage is a sure thing — nothing in this process is ever a sure thing — but the relevant players are on board.

… The Speaker clearly doesn’t love the plan, but in a hilarious twist, Boehner said failing to pass it would lead to a “job-killing default.” That would be the same default Boehner has been willing to pursue for the last several months.

The odds of passage in the Senate are much higher, though it’s unclear when that vote might occur and/or whether the Senate will wait for the House to act. The House remains a tougher lift, where a left-right coalition will make getting a majority very challenging.

…. To clarify something important, Boehner’s presentation gives the impression that new revenue is impossible under the bipartisan congressional commission. That’s false; new revenue is possible and will be a key goal of Democratic members. Whether the revenue is likely or not is a separate question, but for those who saw that and were concerned, Boehner’s claim is just factually wrong.

Full post here

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Greg Sargent (Washington Post): So the final deal has been announced, pending approval by the House, and one of the key new pieces of the compromise is that the Congressional committee tasked with coming up with a second round of spending cuts in exchange for the later debt ceiling hike would be forced to act by the new “trigger.” In the event that the committee deadlocks, that trigger would force an even division of non-defense and defense cuts, and since the latter is anathema to Republicans, they would not have any incentive to deliberately sabotage the committee in order to force the deep entitlements cuts they want.

The White House’s argument is that even if the deal is far short of what liberals hoped for, Republicans have effectively surrendered the amount of leverage they were expected to have over entitlements cuts. Now that the committee — which is half Republicans and Dems — will all but certainly advance a package of cuts in exchange for the later debt ceiling hike, the argument is that Dems can live to fight it out another day on entitlements.

The White House is also arguing that the deal sets the stage for a relitigation of the tax cut fight, and it’s now distributing talking points to outside allies that are heavily devoted to making that case on entitlement and taxes, an argument that seems designed to quiet angst and criticism among liberals….

Full post here

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A Word From Tally….

Nothing is agreed to until EVERYTHING is agreed to. The VOTE IS TOMORROW, so allowing your hair to be set on fire by the MSM, PL, & EmoProgs is POINTLESS.

While President Obama’s statement seems very reasonable, including TAXING THE F**KING RICH, I still believe there will be a CLEAN BILL, and that is what the goal is.

There is no time to write detail into any “agreement” they have floating around either house right now, much less read it, pass it around, and vote on it.

Much more importantly – the GOPTeaHadists will NEVER agree to a SuperCrongress, or any tax hike. NOT. F**KING. EVER.

A CLEAN BILL is an EPIC WIN no matter what the hysterical Pundit-Idocracy™ says.

How?

1. NO CUTS. Cuts of any kind would be deadly in this economy. F**k, we need to give money to the FAA at this point. 

2. No more holding the country hostage. This will be put to bed until 2013.

3. By doing nothing….. the BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE.

4. Obama can introduce an EPIC Infrastructure/Jobs bill that he can beat the GOP with from now until election day.

5. The GOP/TeaHadists have shown the world:

- just how much they hate America, their Government, their fellow countrymen, science, intelligence, math, and everything the Koch Bros tell them to.

- how insane they are.

- how willfully ignorant they are.

- how full of poison they are.

- how they are finishing the work of Bin Laden.

The Dems & POTUS are ALL well aware of this list. Everything that is happening now is theatre to allow the few adults who are left in the GOP to look respectable, and marginalize the Crazies®. So before you go jumping any Dem’s shit who votes the way you don’t like tomorrow – or think they should, or says something you don’t agree with – keep the above in mind. THAT IS THE PLAN.

And remember: Nothing is agreed to until EVERYTHING is agreed to.

Princess Potty Mouth Cassandra still says – CLEAN F**KING BILL.
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by Bobfr
Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi,

At this point you and the President have done everything you possibly can given the Radical Republicans extortion tactics.

Please realize that millions of Americans are grateful.

Now, however, is the time to place the glaring light of accountability on the Radical Republicans.

Please request that the members of your respective Senate and House Democratic Caucus hold their vote until every Republican is on record with their vote. If the majority of Republicans in the Senate and House, respectively, do not support the legislation then please urge every member of your respective Caucus to vote NO.

If the Radical Republicans are not willing to overwhelmingly support the legislation they extorted then NO Democratic member of the House or Senate should support that legislation.

President Obama, duty sworn to protect and serve the Constitution, can act decisively through the Section 4 of the 14th Amendment and, even more importantly by his enforcing 31 USC 3103, to avoid default and protect the credibility of the USA.

But, under no circumstance, should the extortionists be allowed to prevail. If they are unwilling to overwhelmingly support the legislation their irresponsible actions forced to a vote, then no one should provide them any support.

Thank you,

Bob

Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

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Thanks Bob and Tally

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Craig Crawford: Why Obama Won Debt Deal – The President got what he most wanted, postponing another debt ceiling fight until after the election and without politically damaging entitlement cuts.

Everything else is eye wash. Most of the spending cuts are in the out years, which is another way of saying it won’t happen.

And one more committee to study cuts? Oh please, even if they call it a “super” committee that’s always a Capitol Hill euphemism for doing nothing. Adding so-called triggers for cuts if goals aren’t met also means nothing. Remember Gramm-Rudman?

Giving up tax increases on the wealthy is probably Obama’s biggest concession, but that fight lives for another day when the Bush cuts are scheduled to expire later on.

Even if liberals beat up the President for this deal, he wins. Nothing would help him more in his obvious effort to move to the center and appeal to independent voters for reelection.

Link

Thanks Cha


171 Responses to “deal done”


  1. July 31, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    thanks chips I missed POTUS earlier, have been waiting for this video.

  2. 2 Jean
    July 31, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    A huge sigh of relif from around the world.
    Thanks!

  3. July 31, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Well done Mr. President, far as I’m concerned you did all that you could humanly do under these circumstances. Thank you.

  4. July 31, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    “There are still some very important votes to be taken by members of Congress,”

    “We’re not done yet. I want to urge members of both parties to do the right thing and support this deal with your votes over the next few days. ”

    The vote happens tomorrow.

    Please keep that in mind, and don’t let your head explode if Bonehead doesn’t have the votes. He’s having to lie to the Crazies regarding revenues. They WILL have the votes for a clean bill.

    #isupportthepresident

  5. 5 ballerina
    July 31, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Lets all remember that this president has fought a lot of tough exhausting battles. BUT HE HAS NEVER LOST ONE.
    It has been a hard road but a very successful one.
    Let us rejoice. Our time will come.

    • 6 M
      July 31, 2011 at 11:06 pm

      Ballerina, thank you for that reminder!

    • 7 Audrey
      July 31, 2011 at 11:26 pm

      How amazing that we have allowed the media and a loud opposition attempt to convince the American people and the world that the hardest working, most brilliant and most successful President in our generation is a failure!

      Shame on us for even letting this negative and false meme take hold in our consciousness never mind the mainstream!

      We who support this exceptional President must do our part in countering these lies one neighbor and stranger at a time!

    • 8 nathkatun7
      August 1, 2011 at 1:03 am

      Excellent comment, ballerina! By its nature a compromise always means that you don’t get 100% of what you want. You get all you can and keep moving the ball forward. Since Americans love sports analogies, what the President is doing is similar to what football teams that are evenly matched do. Every down counts, even if you gain two to three yards on the first down. If you can’t score a touch down you take a field goal and wait for another chance to get the ball back and score. Sometimes you may not be able to score any touch downs if the other team has a good defense. But if you can score more field goals that give you more points than the opposing team you still win. Five field goals will always win over two colorful touch down bombs.

      The important thing in any thing in life is persistence until you achieve your objective. President Obama, VP Biden and their team are very persistent. Even when people write them off they always find a way to squeeze in a win. Sometimes, as in sports, you win ugly, but a win is a win. In my humble opinion, If Congress approves this compromise and the country avoids a catastrophic economic crash, President Obama is the most valuable player who helped all Americans on the team win; even though the win isn’t pretty.

      Obviously, this is a very simplistic way of looking at this situation. Governing a diverse population, that is deeply divided ideologically, is much more complicated than playing football. In a situation where opposing viewpoints have to compromise for the good of the whole country it is not easy to determine the winners and the losers. Contrary to what the screamers are loudly yelling, I think if this deal is approved the American people are the winners because the country will be spared from an economic disaster. To return to my to football analogy, those who argue that President Obama should have thrown a 14th Amendment hail marry pass, while there was still a minute and half on the game cloak, to prevent default, are assuming that the Republican team would not play defense either by slapping the ball away or intercepting it. Unlike many people I deeply respect, like Bobfr, I am absolutely convinced that the right wing faction on the Supreme Court would be ready to intercept the 14th Amendment hail mary pass from President Obama in order to help their team win. So, why not try to use quick safe passes until you are in a safe situation to win with a field goal. The President has put the country in a safe situation to win with a field goal. Lets hope Congress won’t kick it wide and we loose the game.

  6. 9 brezzydee
    July 31, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    I’m glad this is almost over. PL running for the last few days with hair on fire. News media telling lies and guessing what will or won’t be in the bill. Whitehouse.gov have a summary of what is in the bill.

    Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Debt Deal: A Win for the Economy and Budget Discipline
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheet-victory-bipartisan-compromise-economy-american-people

    Nothing really start to be cut until 2013, and medicare/medicaid SS vets etc is exempt from cuts. So President Obama got a lot of what he wanted. By the time they finish with the fuzzy math, those cuts will be nothing but a whisper.

  7. July 31, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    There’s this..

    Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Debt Deal: A Win for the Economy and Budget Discipline

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheet-victory-bipartisan-compromise-economy-american-people

    And, this..

    Why Obama Won Debt Deal

    http://craigcrawford.com/2011/07/why-obama-won-debt-deal/

  8. 11 Bobfr
    July 31, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    The following is a letter I just sent to Leader Reid and Pelosi and then sent a copy to our dear President and Vice President.

    Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi,

    At this point you and the President have done everything you possibly can given the Radical Republicans extortion tactics.

    Please realize that millions of Americans are grateful.

    Now, however, is the time to place the glaring light of accountability on the Radical Republicans.

    Please request that the members of your respective Senate and House Democratic Caucus hold their vote until every Republican is on record with their vote. If the majority of Republicans in the Senate and House, respectively, do not support the legislation then please urge every member of your respective Caucus to vote NO.

    If the Radical Republicans are not willing to overwhelmingly support the legislation they extorted then NO Democratic member of the House or Senate should support that legislation.

    President Obama, duty sworn to protect and serve the Constitution, can act decisively through the Section 4 of the 14th Amendment and, even more importantly by his enforcing 31 USC 3103, to avoid default and protect the credibility of the USA.

    But, under no circumstance, should the extortionists be allowed to prevail. If they are unwilling to overwhelmingly support the legislation their irresponsible actions forced to a vote, then no one should provide them any support.

    Thank you,
    Bob

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 12 GGail
      July 31, 2011 at 11:11 pm

      WOW Bobfr, we need to send you to Congress to represent US!

    • 16 desertflower
      July 31, 2011 at 11:22 pm

      Bobfr for Congress 2012! Nice letter, and very correct, too!Let THEM be held responsible for a change.

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:48 pm

      Bob, you really need to run for office. You have a clear political mind.

      • 19 Bobfr
        August 1, 2011 at 12:11 am

        Dear LL, Tallly, desertflower, Cha, Sue, and GGail,

        You are all very kind. Please know that my passion is science and education and while folk my age are typically considering retirement I’ve placed everything my dear wife of 40+ years and I have on the line to create a transformative approach to enabling every person to have equitable access to life-long learning, anywhere.

        I am humbled by your comments and only wish I could do more.

        Thank you.

        Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

        • 20 Sue in Minnesota
          August 1, 2011 at 12:22 am

          The awesomeness that gathers here is pretty darn incredible. Bob, I wish you only success on what seems to be a very worthy endeavor. May we consider you our Todder statesman since you are unavailable for Congress?

          • 21 utaustinliberal
            August 1, 2011 at 12:32 am

            Bob, you’re one of a kind. Bless your heart for your continued support of science and education. We need more brilliant people like you in this world. Glad you’re one of us: a TOD’er for life! :D

        • 22 desertflower
          August 1, 2011 at 1:14 am

          The passion you have FOR ALL THINGS is very apparent. Good luck with your very important, and noble venture. Maybe you can share that with us here sometime. :)

        • 23 HZ
          August 1, 2011 at 2:33 am

          Bobfr, would love to see you maybe teaming up with Secretary of Education, Arnie Duncan and his department. Just a thought. I respect you and your gifts. There is so much talent in this TOD family. I am going to pray for something to come out of this wonderful family that will bring so many of our passions to life to help this wonderful President and his Administration. Remember, we are the change. Thank you again. I am so excited about the future.

      • 24 HZ
        August 1, 2011 at 2:23 am

        I am closing the computer now for sure.(Last minutes instructions for Mond. and Tues.) then I saw Bobfr’s letter. I concur with my family members Bobfr. You have my support and vote. Thank you Bobfr for sending such a great letter. We have some many gifted and beautiful hearts on this site. Thank you again Chipsticks for all of this. You are the Goddess as Tally so beautifully stated before. I thank you so much. I am saying goodnight again. I love you all very much. What a family we have here. Very grateful.HZ

        • 25 sjterrid
          August 1, 2011 at 2:42 am

          HZ good luck, I believe you are having surgery on Tuesday. My thoughts and prayers go out to you, I hope you get well soon.

        • 26 Sue in Minnesota
          August 1, 2011 at 8:37 am

          HZ you are in my thoughts, my prayers, my heart. I want the surgery to go without a hitch, the Dr’s and staff to give you the most extrordinanry care and attention, and for you, our beloved friend to bounce back better than ever. You know we will all be sending love and healing light, and I trust that God will keep you in his hands. When you can please let us know that all went well. You are loved HZ.

    • August 1, 2011 at 12:45 am

      Bob,

      Excellent letter! Mad props!

    • 28 nathkatun7
      August 1, 2011 at 1:42 am

      Bobfr, thank you for your excellent letter, which I totally endorse! You’ve really been doing magnificent work. I know I have been critical about the invocation of Section 4 of the 14th Amendment because I’ve studied a little bit about the legislative history, and the final bill that became the Fourteenth Amendment. I still have issues with the President using the 14th Amend. because I fear that he will be slapped by the Supreme Court. This would give the crazies in Congress and outside Congress to start demanding his impeachment. Obviously, at this late hour, in these final seconds of the debt ceiling game, if Congress votes down this compromise, which by the way is not necessarily appealing to me, then I would join you in urging the President to invoke Section 4, of the 14th Amendment. At the same time, I hope all the people urging him to invoke the 14th Amendment would strongly have his back once the right wingers embark on impeaching him. I of course know that you will be there backing him 100%. What I am not sure of are the haters, who claim to be progressives, who have now jumped on the 14th Amendment bandwagon, and are now using the President’s reluctancy to invoke it, to justify why they constantly attack, and belittle, him.

  9. 29 utaustinliberal
    July 31, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Thank you Mr. President for being the adult who worked bloody hard to reach a deal that would stop default and calms the American people. As for the emo progressives freaking out on twitter, other social networks, and blogs I hope they swallow a big dollop of STFU!!!!!! since at the end of the day, President Obama still got a balanced plan that will include cuts + revenues.

  10. 30 Mary Gray
    July 31, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    The plan is actually much better than I originally thought. Looks like he will use the veto of Bush tax cuts to taken hostage of the special committee to ensure that tax reform/revenue is achieved. This POTUS is so brillant that he is light years ahead of the others. “So you won’t do revenue enhancing changes, then I will allow the Bush tax cuts to expire”. Its the LONG GAME.

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:33 pm

      THIS. If it passes.

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:37 pm

      Mary Gray, you are so right but watch the PL act crazy because they don’t understand politic and don’t trust our amazing President, They just don’t get it. and the Media is going to make it seem like he cave, but we know that he just box the Republican in on the bush tax cuts.

      • 33 Sue in Minnesota
        August 1, 2011 at 12:25 am

        I’ld like to ban the word cave from the English language…..worn out from overuse, and in President Obama’s case, just plain wrong.

        • 34 nathkatun7
          August 1, 2011 at 2:16 am

          I am with you Sue in Minnesota about the overuse of the word cave. I am willing to even go further than you. The people who repeatedly use such words as cave, sell-out, capitulator, when describing President Obama’s actions, are not just “plain wrong”: they are disgusting, bold-faced liars! They purposely use these emotional words to incite hatred of the president; or, at the minimum, erode people ‘s trust and confidence in him. Unfortunately, their strategy is working very well. People who view themselves as progressives, and who rely on the Daily Kos, FDL, the HuffPost, TPM, the Rachel Maddow Show, the Ed Shultz radio and T.V. shows, and other PL sources, are internalizing and regurgitating these words when you try to talk to them about supporting the President. By the way, another word that’s increasingly useless and needs to be discarded is: “progressives.”

        • 35 nathkatun7
          August 1, 2011 at 3:17 am

          By the way Sue, I’ve been itching to ask the constant bashers of President Obama what they think of our Great Presidents’ “cave” ins on these monumental issues? In interest of time and space, I would like to cite three examples:

          1. George Washington “caved” in when he endorsed the compromises in the Constitution that called for the counting of a black slave as 3/5th of a person; allowed the re-opening of slave trade for twenty more years; and allowed the slave owners to hunt down their slaves who had escaped from slavery in search of Freedom.

          2. Abraham Lincoln “caved” in when he agreed to return runaway slaves to their masters, in the initial months of the Civil war, in order to reassure slave owners that he had no intention of interfering with slavery in states where slavery was legally recognized. Lincoln also caved in to the interest of slave states, or parts of the slave states that were loyal to the United States when he issued the famous Emancipation Proclamation that applied only to states, or parts of states, that were in rebellion against the United States. Thus if you were a slave owner in Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, Delaware, Tennessee, West Virginia, or parts of Virginia (like Norfolk), and parts of Louisiana (like New Orleans), the historical Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to you. because you remained loyal to the United States.

          3. FDR “caved” in when he agreed to exclude agricultural and domestic workers (who at the time were mostly black) from being covered by these new deal programs: Social Security; minimum wage; forty-hour week; and collective bargaining. FDR also caved in to interest of Southern Segregationists/racists when he refused to support a strong anti-lynching bill which eventually died in Congress.

          I cited these examples of “cave in,” by the three of the most revered Presidents in U.S. history, to try to illustrate the difference between real history and mythology. Any examination of the records of all Presidents would find examples where they had to compromise (cave in in PL speak) to get things done. If you don’t believe me check out the record of Bill Clinton, our most recent Democratic President before President Obama.

          This notion that compromise=cave in, sell-out, capitulation is utterly absurd. The people who know the truth of American history are using these words because they hate President Obama. The people who have been brought up on myths of Presidents, and know nothing about actual history and records of Presidents they revere, are easily swayed by the manipulators whose overriding goal is to ensure that President Obama is not re-elected for a second term.

          • 36 Mae who love our CIC
            August 1, 2011 at 4:20 am

            Nath thanks for your post. I got your “cave.”

          • 37 Sue in Minnesota
            August 1, 2011 at 9:38 am

            Nath thank you for these very salient, and very poignant references to our history. I will say no one can shake my confidence in Barack Obama. they may irritate me in any manner of ways, but they will not persuade me from what I believe, President Obama is an extrordinary human being and it is my belief history will assign him greatness.

            I am sorry we encounter so many delusional and socially challenged people in the political areana. But I try to remind myself that in every obstacle their is an opportunity.

          • August 1, 2011 at 9:49 am

            A common thread of all these “caves” and maybe this one too, is that they saved America from it’s worst crises until better days came along and allowed a lot of the injustices to be corrected. Domestic servants and farm workers eventually got a chance to be on those programs, and strong civil rights enforcement ended the lynchings. Washington’s compromise gave America time, allowing it to finally become strong enough to survive the Civil War and have a 13th, 14, and 15th Amendment that ended slavery for goo. If this compromise saves the American economy long enough so that it falls into saner and more progressive hands, then it’s worth it too.

            • 39 Sue in Minnesota
              August 1, 2011 at 9:56 am

              I think your are referencing what many can’t grasp ….the long game. One foot in front of another is how we get where we are going. Let’s keep moving forward.

    • 40 57andFemale
      July 31, 2011 at 11:40 pm

      Yeah. Since Boehner lied to his own caucus about tax increases being impossible because they’re using current law as the baseline. Current law says the Bush tax cuts expire in 2013. So either Boehner knows his caucus is too dumb to understand shit, he lied to them, or he himself doesn’t understand current law and baseline.

      Or a combination of the above.

  11. July 31, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    The President looks so tired, and even a bit thin. Hopefully the usual August recess “silly season” takes a year off so he can take some time off.

    Of course there is another government shutdown hostage situation looming at the end of September.

    • 43 hopefruit2
      July 31, 2011 at 11:49 pm

      Yes, our President is tired for now – because he SHOULD be. His tired of all these unecessary toxicities that have permeated normal political discourse and process:

      He’s tired of the dishonest Koch bankrolled MSM whose criteria for qualified journalists seem to be the ability to lie (from a GOP’s vantage point) and having a camera friendly physical appearance; He’s tired of the the do-nothing lazy congress needing a 1-2 week “recess” every other bloody month; he’s tired of the Republicans and their manufactured crises designed to make him a “one-term President”; He’s tired of the extremist factions on both the left and right; He’s tired of back-stabbing Democrats who crave their own reality tv show via bitching and whining about PBO on cable news; He’s tired of the old Black political establishment (Conyers I’m looking at you) and pseudo-intellectuals (Tavis and Smiley) who are threatened by this President’s discipline, intelligence, no-drama, no shock and jive nonsense, etc. He’s tired of the Unprofessional Left’s chronic and personal attacks on his character, motivations, sexuality and racial background (FDL, DKOS, Maher, Stewart, HuffnPuff, etc).

      Our President is tired for now – because he SHOULD be. It’s late and he probably didn’t get much sleep over the weekend. However, he’s more determined than ever. He will prevail. He has a good family who loves him and accepts him unconditionally. He has millions of supporters here in America and all over the world. That’s why CNN out of sheer jealous rage felt compelled to take a low blow by reporting that he had supposedly lost 30000 Twitter followers – while conveniently omitting the fact that he had well over 9 MILLION followers at the time – something their dream Republican candidate could not REMOTELY come close too.

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:49 pm

      I think this year the “silly season” will rebound on the teabaggers. Let’s see how many town halls they host.

      • August 1, 2011 at 12:26 am

        I think it’s going to be all about jobs. GOP will jump back on their “where are the jobs” campaign 2010 meme – especially after another bad jobs report which is expected given the debt ceiling drama and so much damn uncertainty. Of course it won’t matter that President Obama was touring the country giving speeches on jobs in March when the GOP decided to make the deficit and debt the issue. Not to mention the GOP hasn’t passed one jobs bill in the 200 days they’ve controlled the House. And the GOP senate had blocked any jobs bills there.

        I’d like to see Dems go on the offensive with a jobs message.

    • 50 57andFemale
      July 31, 2011 at 11:50 pm

      My husband kept saying that. He also obsessed that he wore a washed out suit, against the background, that he looked weak. The hubby really needs to trust me and chill out.

      Now am I the only one who wants to know exactly what those first round of cuts actually are? It sounds like they are all back-loaded.

      • July 31, 2011 at 11:58 pm

        57, this blog does a good job of explaining the compromise http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/the-debt-ceiling-deal-is-almost-done/

        “Apparently, the $1 trillion in “cuts” are really $900 billion in discretionary spending caps, plus $350 billion in defense cuts, which the White House points out is the first cut in the defense budget since the 1990s.”

      • 52 Audrey
        August 1, 2011 at 12:27 am

        Pray tell why we need to know the details of your husband’s petty, shallow “observations” in the midst of serious obstruction from Republicans?!
        Sometimes it pays to keep some of this insulting tidbits that add no value to the conversation to yourself 57and female!

        • 53 utaustinliberal
          August 1, 2011 at 12:40 am

          Okay Audrey that was totally uncalled for. A lot of people here have commented on the fact that President Obama looked tired. It is not wrong to point that out; since we know he has been working tirelessly on our collective behalves. For you to insult 57andFemale’s husband without knowing the full context of the conversation is not only downright rude, priggish and boorish, but displays an utter lack of manners and respect for the family that covenes here. I know you may be frustrated with the debt ceiling debates and obstruction from the GOP but that doesn’t give you the right to level an uncalled for personal attack on another member of the TOD family.

          Hey 57andFemale, I hope you don’t let Audrey’s rude remarks deter you from being a valued member of this family. I certainly take no offense at your husband’s comments and as a family here, we often drop tidbits from our daily life. Thanks for your unwavering support of President Obama and please please keep visting and dropping a line or two or a thousand. :D

          • 54 Audrey
            August 1, 2011 at 1:05 am

            Utaustinliberal, I will post my responses to silly posts as I see fit!

            Washed out suit, weak?! What exactly does that add to the conversation?

            Feel free to comment on how tired PBO looks, but the washed out suit and weak comments will not be tolerated!

            • 55 utaustinliberal
              August 1, 2011 at 1:17 am

              We all know that you support the President, but did you stop and consider how your harsh comments would potentially hurt 57andFemale? She meant no harm by her statement and for you to rabidly go off on her was rude. For you to blatantly insult her husband whom you don’t know from Jack was disrespectful. You can disagree with her in a calm manner not a harsh and downright hurtful tone. This is a family where we ALL support the President wholeheartedly but are free to disagree with him, ask a question about his policies and share tidbits from our other lives and NO ONE should be made to feel small for that.

              • 56 Audrey
                August 1, 2011 at 1:43 am

                I stand by my post!

                Comments that spoke to how tired and thin PBO looked are a far cry from washed out suit and weak!

                Strange that a post that asks that supporters refrain from cheap and uncalled for glib talk is considered rude and mean!

                Free for all’s on PBO will not be tolerated!

                Maybe if people especially so-called supporters are a tad more conscious and less glib in their sometimes ridiculous nit picking of this man, maybe some of the petty, demeaning crap out there would never have taken hold!

                • 57 utaustinliberal
                  August 1, 2011 at 1:51 am

                  You may stand by your post and that is your perogative, but there are polite ways to leave a comment without being downright rude, disrespectful, priggish, boorish and hurtful. In addition to that; insulting another’s spouse whom you don’t know from Jack is uncalled for.

                  • 58 Audrey
                    August 1, 2011 at 2:29 am

                    Rude, disrespectful, hurtful and insulting are the uncalled for cheap snipes at PBO!

                    It is glibly relaying the projection of this hardworking man as “weak” and describing his “washed out suit”!

                    It is forgetting that this man deserves respect and is not an inanimate object to throw everything at!

                    Rude, disrespectful, insulting and hurtful is forgetting that this man has family who might sometimes read these insulting, demeaning and worthless comments from so called supporters in the midst of the craziest obstructionism we’ve ever experienced in this country!

                    Rude, disrespectful, insulting, and hurtful is reducing this President to everybody’s punching bag where his every being is dissected and trivialized so much so that at the end of his very important press statement folks are busy condescendingly talking about his “washed out suit” and how “weak” he looked!

                    If you think my response was “rude” and “hurtful”, one can only imagine how hurt and insulted relatives of this man would feel reading this glib stuff. And from “supporters” no less!

                    • 59 geegee
                      August 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm

                      Thank you Audrey; right there with you. That ‘washed out suit (or whatever the description was), weak’ remark imo is what was uncalled for. Just think of how PBO or First Lady would maybe feel if they were to read a comment like that. And whose to say they don’t read the comments on this [supportive] blog.

                • 60 Eleroy
                  August 1, 2011 at 9:49 am

                  Audrey, THANK YOU!!!

            • 61 chiara
              August 1, 2011 at 2:26 am

              Wow, overreact much? It was just someone’s observation about how he looks, even if he did think he looked weak, why attack? Why not ask something rational like how exactly does a suit color make someone “look weak”? No need to get defensive about it, most people here really do love and support the president but are still entitled to opinions, observations and yes some disappointment at times.

              • 62 Audrey
                August 1, 2011 at 6:13 am

                Nah Chiara, wrong site!

                Most of us who found this site a long time ago came to get away from exactly that dubious sentiment!
                The overarching need for some so-called supporters to criticize (demean) and to “hold Obama’s feet to the fire” which led quickly to the bursting of floodgates and no boundaries where PBO was concerned!

                We had enough!

                Those places still exist and are now a dime a dozen! Which begs the question, why are so many of those players coming here now and insisting on doing the same here when there is ample space for them to let it rip at any number of other sites of their choosing!

                This site is a place of solace, a reprieve from the subtle and not so subtle attacks and demeaning under the guise of “criticism”, the expressions of “disappointment” and whatever else it is you call it!

                This was the last place free from that crap and we will do everything in our power to keep it that way!

                In other words we will not be ceding this haven to those who have a million and one options of where to go to do their nit-picking and expressions of disappointment but still insist on bringing it here!

                Additionally, isn’t it rich that posters who have no qualms about sharing glib, demeaning “expressions” and “observations” about PBO would seek consideration and polite responses to protect their feelings!

                What is PBO? A stone without feelings or without the right to the same considerations from glib, demeaning comments!

                • 63 FactPlus
                  August 1, 2011 at 8:24 am

                  Way to go Audrey. I support you entirely.

                • 64 chiara
                  August 1, 2011 at 5:05 pm

                  So here’s the deal Audrey. I am both an idealist in some sense and a realist. I truly love and value PBO for the human being and the President he is. BUT, I realize that not every single thing he does (as far as policy) is something I am going to wholeheartedly agree with, yet because I trust his intellect, his integrity and his humanity it won’t be something that diminishes my support for him.

                  When I come here, it is a respite from the constant whine that I see on other sites but I also don’t think it should be a place where we don’t allow a free flow of thoughts and feelings. If I say I am disappointed in some policy decision the president has made and I explain why, my expectation is that if someone doesn’t agree they should help me understand why I shouldn’t feel that way and not that I would be attacked for having those thoughts. Disagreeing with the president on occasion is not a personal attack on him.

                  Barack Obama is human, an excellent and fine human but I know he will do things that I don’t agree with and HE would never want the people who support him to just blindly follow him, accept everything he does and says without question and to give him only effusive praise. He is a thinker, he is pragmatic, he is very centered, I have no doubt in my mind that if any of us were to meet him and talk about what decisions we liked and didn’t, he would be the first one to want to discuss it and to hear another side and in no way would he be offended.

                  As far as the color of his suit goes and what that might say about him, HE would laugh hard at that. It is widely known that PBO could not care less about clothes, so I have no doubt that someone trying to tie his suit choice to a character trait would give him a chuckle.

            • August 1, 2011 at 9:38 am

              Hi Audrey, no offense intended – but as the person who runs the blog and is ultimately responsible for it, I’ll decide what’s tolerated here. I’m trying hard to make this a place where supporters of the President can post whatever thoughts they like, serious or light-hearted, safe in the knowledge they won’t be insulted. So, please don’t abuse or belittle fellow posters, they get enough of that on other sites. If you disagree with what someone posted, let them know – but do it respectfully, please.

              On another issue, one I meant to comment on the other day, Blackwaterdog will always be welcome here, any time – if it wasn’t for her and her support and encouragement this place wouldn’t even exist. To be honest, if I see anyone telling her again to go back to her own blog, they won’t be welcome here anymore. That’s just the way it is. Thanks.

              • 66 Eleroy
                August 1, 2011 at 10:10 am

                Sorry C.S but what was belittling or abusive about Audrey’s comment??? I’ve read and re-read it and still miss the abusive or belittling part!!!
                Your blog is wonderful, but as Audrey points out, if it becomes yet another place where periodic strains of some of the stuff – the sly stab at and conscious/unconscious personal slams of President Obama – that’s out there creeps in, it will be a doggone shame.

                I suppose as the blog owner you decide what is acceptable, but let us not lose sight that as anonymous commenters come here to bare their souls, it is a living, breathing person with loved ones who can read, who will be at the recieving end of these expressed thoughts!!!

          • 67 Mae who love our CIC
            August 1, 2011 at 4:42 am

            Ut you jumping on Audrey about 57′s statement is not valid. I usually read more than I post comments. And that was my initial reaction from the post of 57. Some things are better left unsaid. It did not enhance the dialogue.

            • 68 utaustinliberal
              August 1, 2011 at 9:00 am

              You might have had that reaction and that’s your perogative, but that DOESN’T give Audrey the right to viciously attack 57andFemale and her husband. Other people commented on the fact that PBO looked tired. Why didn’t she jump on them? Why didn’t you find their comments offensive? She could have disagreed with 57andFemale without her rabid, disrespectful, hurtful, priggish, boorish, rude, and overblown reaction. It was totally uncalled for.

              • 69 Eleroy
                August 1, 2011 at 9:43 am

                Others commented on how tired President Obama looked, but nobody talked about his worn-out suit or how weak he looked!!!

                There IS a stark difference dear utaustinliberal!!!

                I read Audrey’s comment and it was anything but vicious!!!

        • 70 isonprize
          August 1, 2011 at 1:17 am

          Mean people suck.

        • 71 Mae who love our CIC
          August 1, 2011 at 4:29 am

          I agree with you Audrey. Why pile on the negative.

          • 72 Audrey
            August 1, 2011 at 6:36 am

            Thanks Mae, I’m still so furious I can’t sleep. Maybe I just miss the good old days when this site was a fun, happy haven from the madness and those of us who communed here truly held this president in the highest esteem and felt no need to add disclaimers to our support and love of this president without apologies!

            This was how some of the other sites I used to belong to slowly turned into a free for all Obama-bashfest! It started with people insisting that it was “healthy” and “necessary” to offer constructive criticism of PBO and in no time it all got out of hand and degenerated into the disrespectful, no holds barred attacks on PBO!

            That a person declares themselve a “supporter” does not in any way give them the right to disrespect or demean this president!

            I will keep pushing back as hard as I can and will never cede the slightest ground on demanding that this president is treated with the utmost respect! If anyone is deserving of our respect and defense against those who will demean him, it is PBO!

            • 73 utaustinliberal
              August 1, 2011 at 9:04 am

              This site is till a fun and happy place. We share information, facts, opinions, and humor. Other people commented on the fact that PBO looked extremely tired and washed out. Why didn’t you attack them? Why didn’t you jump on them? You are not the only “true” supporter of PBO. We all are and for you to overreact as Chiara rightly pointed out and go on the rabid offensive with hurtful comments about 57andFemale and her husband is frankly rude and disrespectful.

              • 74 Eleroy
                August 1, 2011 at 9:48 am

                I actually found 57andfemale’s comment to be extremely offensive!!!

                I find it hard to believe that Audrey’s rather restrained response to a comment that I too found jarring and totally irrelevant, has you jumping around so offended!!! LOL!!!

                • 75 chiara
                  August 1, 2011 at 5:11 pm

                  Please help me understand what was “extremely offensive” about the comment from 57andfemale?

                  And then ask yourself, knowing the man we know to be Barack Obama (as much as we really can) do you honestly believe he would be “offended” at someone tying his suit color to a character trait? Do you think this man is so fragile and insecure that he would be offended by that? The answer is NO. He is a strong secure man who has to deal with truly horrible things coming at him every day from the likes of the republicans and it rolls off his back. So if he wouldn’t be offended by something this truly insignificant why would you?

    • August 1, 2011 at 12:08 am

      And, get a “Birthday Burger” from Michelle~ Put a little meat on his bones.

      • August 1, 2011 at 12:36 am

        You’re right, Cha. POTUS looks like he really could really use a hearty “Birthday Burger” for his b-day meal with some extra special loving from Michelle for dessert. ;)

    • 78 Obama Grandmama
      August 1, 2011 at 2:39 am

      He said the next few days. I thought tomorrow was the last day and the deadline was Tuesday. Right or wrong?

  12. 79 hgerhard
    July 31, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Before the final votes it is not a done deal yet. For more information on the deal, the White House fact sheet goes into considerable detail. This should be very helpful in discussing the deal and the debt/deficit issue in general. One important detail: the enforcement mechanism for the additional deficit reduction protects Social Security, Medicare beneficiaries (as oposed to providers) Medicaid, unemployment insurance, programs for low-income families as well as civilian and military retirement from any cuts. This should reassure a lot of people in addition to the virtual guarantee that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy will expire.

    • August 1, 2011 at 3:58 am

      Thank you for that recap; because I have no clue what’s going on or what’s in the deal. I know alot of progressive blogs are going crazy right now.

  13. July 31, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Chips YOU ARE a GODDESS.

    I’d be lost with my TOD family!!

    ❤ ❤ ❤

  14. 83 Sue in Minnesota
    July 31, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I just feel the need to say out loud how much respect, admire, and LOVE our President. Off to send him and Joe a note of thanks.

    • 84 nathkatun7
      August 1, 2011 at 3:56 am

      Hi, Sue in Minnesota. Thanks for implanting the thought. I will also send PBO and VP Biden thank you notes. I now know why President Obama chose VP Joe Biden as his running mate. They are both about finding solutions to real problems instead of being stuck in ideological food fights. PBO and VP-Biden are more principled in their efforts to protect and advance the interests of the poor and the middle class, than are all those in the PL who have mastered the game of making money by constantly bashing President Obama. As soon as Congress votes to end this manufactured controversy over raising the debt ceiling, all of us in the pragmatic wing should go on offense to counter the lies being spread about the President.

      • 85 Sue in Minnesota
        August 1, 2011 at 11:58 am

        I think we all should be expressing direct thanks for all they do. I wrote a rather long e-mail, and actually broke down crying while doing so.
        These last few days have been emotionally exhausting, I could only imagine the pressure our leaders have been under, both who are well equipped for all the job has to offer and are in far greater command of their emotions than crybaby me.

        Because I genuinely love them and deeply appreciate everything they endure on our behalf, the disrespect, deceit and lack of empathy that is freely blanketed on them registers in my heart as true pain. It is undeserved, absolutely undeserved. That people choose to be so uncivil, unyielding and so disrespectful just adds injury to the insult. Seems what they enlarge through there weakness either escapes them, or they have no sense of responsibility for what they bring to the public square. And that disturbs me deeply.

  15. July 31, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Well done Mr President.
    Obama supporter Let’s pray

    Father God, May Your Holy Light shine upon Barack Obama,
    May Your Holy Light surround him and may he and his family be protected.
    May his words carry strength, and inspiration and hope,
    May he be used by You, Father God, to help heal our Nation.

    May his enemies be confounded, their hatred turned back on them, and their wicked schemes be defeated permanently. 
    May You, Lord Jesus, forgive this country its transgressions as we attempt to begin to change our path from wrong thinking and violence, to justice and peace.
    May the Holy Spirit protect Barack Obama from all harm and guide him to victory for the sake of this nation’s and of the world. And So We Pray, In Jesus Name, Amen.   and Goodnight

    • 87 Doris
      July 31, 2011 at 11:45 pm

      Amen and Goodnight Dun.

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:49 pm

      AMEN and goodnight everyone!

    • 89 GGail
      July 31, 2011 at 11:52 pm

      Amen and good night dun. Thanks Chipsticks for continuing to provide this haven for us. I’m hooked on TOD. :D

      • 90 HZ
        August 1, 2011 at 12:05 am

        Amen also. Goodnight Chipsticks and my TOD Family. Thanks for the beautiful haven, Chipsticks. Everyone have a restful and peaceful night. Pray for our wonderful President and his marvelous team and Senior Advisor. Ofcourse, we send love to our wonderful VPOTUS. We are bless to have them both in the WH. Goodnight.

      • August 1, 2011 at 12:12 am

        May God continue to watch over you Dun as you pray from the heart. Amen. Thanks Chips. Hope you are getting some good off time during your intervals here. I also want to thank all TOB members for keeping up the good fight and showing sanity when it seems the rest of at least the ” make believe activists” are trying to tear down.

  16. 94 57andFemale
    July 31, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Okay, I really don’t understand this:

    “Enforcement mechanism established to force all parties – Republican and Democrat – to agree to balanced deficit reduction. If Committee fails, enforcement mechanism will trigger spending reductions beginning in 2013 – split 50/50 between domestic and defense spending. Enforcement protects Social Security, Medicare beneficiaries, and low-income programs from any cuts. ”

    Am I following this correctly: The commission must consider a balanced approach — that means increases in revenue.

    “If the committee fails” — cuts only. Does that mean if they don’t come up with recommendations, or does it mean that those recommendations must pass Congress before the trigger is invoked?

    This is going to be an epic battle for the rest of this term. I will say what I’ve said all day — this is an opportunity to continue to change public perception. By continuing this battle into the second phase, Republicans will act like Republicans and remind people what heartless dim wits they are.

    • 95 hgerhard
      August 1, 2011 at 12:14 am

      I’m pretty sure the recommendations would have to be enacted. Otherwise the trigger will apply. The beauty of it is that those cuts would then have to be 50/50 defense and domestic spending, still protecting SS, etc. Republicans will have a problem with such large additional cuts to the defense program and Democrats will not like cuts to domestic programs. Revenues, such as closing loopholes and eliminating subsidies will probably be more acceptable and therefore make a balanced solution more likely. The Bush tax cuts for the wealthy will be gone under either scenario.

  17. 96 hopefruit2
    July 31, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    I predict that Howard Fineman will be out on Tweety or Larry’s show tomorrow with his brain-dead talking points about how President O has given away the store. Luckily the WH has pre-empted all the punditry by putting out this fact sheet. But just in case, let’s be prepared to tweet Fineman’s ARSE away with the facts if he dares pull this BS.

  18. 97 57andFemale
    July 31, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Huh — imagine. The WH’s fact sheet is quite different in tone that Boehner’s lying powerpoint presentation. Who woulda thought……?

    • July 31, 2011 at 11:57 pm

      Boehner will have to go hat in hand to Nancy to get the necessary votes for passage. Then we’ll see who “wins” in the media narrative. This drama isn’t even close to being done.

      • August 1, 2011 at 12:39 am

        If Boehner oversold it to the point of being seen as lying to his caucus it will be another nail in his Speakership coffin. They already don’t trust him from his budget deal, than the CBO score showed he was high balling his numbers even a couple days ago as he was selling it to them.

        Now might be the time to put the screws to Boehner. Once this thing passes, do the equivalent of the Lincoln Memorial visit. And really start highlighting what you really got vs what Boehner said he got. You could potentially make this this “silly season” focus if played right.

        Really make the guy look like a sucker to the teaparty base of his caucus and party.

        • 100 Obama Grandmama
          August 1, 2011 at 2:46 am

          Be careful what you wish for cuz the next election is not for awhile yet and we have to live with a GOP Speaker of the House till we can overturn the majority. We might end up with Cantor instead of Boehner. I do not like Boehner but dislike Cantor more and can see more potential problems with Cantor as SOTH.

          • August 1, 2011 at 9:15 am

            With the debt ceiling decided until after the next election and nothing likely to get done in Congress because of the teaparty, at this point I’d like to see them completely exposed as the extremists they are. Put Cantor or Rep. Jordan in leadership and have them pull a Gingrich and shutdown Government over the next budget (or in October for that matter) – Boehner is a long time Pol, he knows how to play the game, Cantor is a reactionary twit and Jordan is a teabagger true believer who doesn’t understand he is so far out of the mainstream.

  19. August 1, 2011 at 12:24 am

    Yeah, once we get a majority in the House, a fillibuster proof Senate, and a Democratic prez., THEN we will call the shots!!!

    oh wait, that happened…

    and the GOP still called the shots…

    Sorry, but I can’t join this ‘celebration.’ What exactly are you all celebrating anyway? I love this site and there are a lot of smart people who post here but I can’t understand the celebration. Someone help me out plz.

  20. 105 utaustinliberal
    August 1, 2011 at 12:27 am

    The PL have been freaking out on the news and most especially on twitter with some so called “supporters” saying that if they see any OBAMA 2012 sticker on anyones car, not only will they rip the sticker off, they’ll make sure to cause some aesthetic damage to the car aka vandalism. In my opinion, fickle supporters of this President are worse than the GOP and Teabaggers because at least with the fucked up rightwingers, we know they practically seeth with hatred for this President; but the fickle supporters with their one hour of support and twenty-three hours of handwringing, bashing of President Obama, freaking people out, peddling of false memes, and threatening withdrawal of support for this MAGNIFICENT President are pretty much the devil incarnate. A lot of them on twitter haven’t even read the White House fact sheet and they’re already freaking out because all they understand is that there’ll be cuts. What they don’t understand is that there will be cuts + revenues so they should shut their uninformed asses up and pipe down. Thankfully a plethora of real Obamabots; myself included are on the pushback, reminding them to read the fact sheet and STFU with their fake outrage, petitions, and lily livered support of this WONDERFUL President. I mean sheesh with opponents like the GOPTeabaggers who needs fake supporters?

    • August 1, 2011 at 12:42 am

      you are absolutely right UT. fickle supporters are the worst sort of disgusting life forms there are. I wish they would read and learn more before they go on a loudmouthed ‘Obama Sells Out’ rampage. The fact that they don’t says more about them than does anything else.

    • 108 Sue in Minnesota
      August 1, 2011 at 12:44 am

      That sounds like right-wing trolls……are pl’ers destructive by nature, and disrespectful of others rights to support who they choose. The internet seems awash with alot of pretenders. I do think the more right a supporter the more willing they are to lack regard for the rights of others, and seem to be in less control of their faculties.

      • 109 Walking_on_ Sunshine
        August 1, 2011 at 12:46 am

        Agreed!

        • 110 hopefruit2
          August 1, 2011 at 9:01 am

          Some of the so-called PL’ers are actually right-wing Libertarians who endorse “personal liberties as long as it benefits you only” and that may include the right to damage someone’s property if you deem their beliefs different from yours.

      • 111 Doris
        August 1, 2011 at 12:52 am

        I’ve been cruising around and I think it trolls to Sue. OFA is infested with them. They have come out of the woodwork or from under the bridge. I think something was up with the twitter losses too. The trolls at OFA have really be harping on that one. Feels like a grand old conspiracy to me to get us off our game. NOT. We’re gonna keep on keeping on.

    • 112 isonprize
      August 1, 2011 at 12:48 am

      All I’m saying is…. If they mess with my car, it’s ON and poppin’

    • 113 Audrey
      August 1, 2011 at 12:53 am

      I will go to the garage right now and slap on 2 more Obama 2012 stickers on our cars! And I dare anybody who will to try touching my car or my stickers!
      They will find themselves with pieces of their mashed up hateful brains in their shitty broken arms!
      They will experience first hand their very own personal shock and awe happening in realtime and custom designed by me!

    • 115 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 1, 2011 at 1:01 am

      Yawn!!!!! NEWSFLASH…..THE PRESIDENT WILL BE RE-ELECTED!!

    • 116 Jennifer
      August 1, 2011 at 1:06 am

      My 2012 sticker is taped on the inside of the window for exactly this reason. Guess I’ll put my other one up tomorrow. If they vandalize my car I guess I’ll just have to get a bigger 2012 sticker to cover up the damage.

    • 117 nathkatun7
      August 1, 2011 at 5:51 am

      Thank you so much UT, for the push back you are doing against fake Obama supporters. I really need to learn, pronto, how to twitter. But you know it doesn’t come that easy for many of us raised on a typewriter to really get comfortable with the new ways of communicating. I am just so thankful that there are young people like you who are so wise beyond their ages.

      In my humble opinion, President Obama is the best President in my adult life that goes as far back as the presidency of LBJ. I also remember the Presidency of JFK. But my memory of JFK is more about his assassination than it is about his policies. Obviously when I entered college, three years after his assassination, I began to learn more about his brief presidency. Bottom line is that, so far as my conscious experience is concerned, I have known all the Presidents from LBJ to BHO. Of all the nine Presidents, BHO is the best.

      I know now that people have created this myth about the powerful LBJ. What they forget is that LBJ had the goodwill of the nation because he was seen as fulfilling the agenda of JFK. But not only that, LBJ had to answer the massive Civil rights protests. I really get amused when somebody writes that they wish President Obama was like LBJ. Right there and then I know that who ever is making that statement knows absolutely nothing about LBJ. LBJ was practically forced not to run for a second term because of Vietnam, but also because of the massive rebellions in Black ghettos. 1968, Richard Nixon run on a platform of “Law and Order” because the now mythical strong President of the “holier than thou progressives” had been unable to maintain law and order. Please don’t get me wrong, LBJ did some great things. But the Idea that he somehow used his bully pulpit to strong arm the congress is mostly based on myths. LBJ was able to pass both the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the voting Rights of 1965 because he had the cooperation of moderate/liberal Northern Republicans. Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) who, en masse began joining the Republican party during the 1968 Presidential elections had opposed both seminal Civil Rights legislations. Admirers of LBJ have created the myth of a strong President who twisted arms of members of Congress to get what he wanted. The reality of course is so far different from the myth. It’s true that LBJ, who had been Senate majority leader for sometime before JFK picked him for VP, had personal relationship with many of his former Senate colleagues. But that doesn’t mean that all his successes were about twisting arms and using the so called bully pulpit. The first two years of LBJ’s administration were all about honoring the wishes of JFK and responding to the massive Civil Rights Protests in the streets.

      • 118 Sue in Minnesota
        August 1, 2011 at 10:33 am

        We are bombarded with sound bites, and constant targets of influence peddling. Context is enormously important, as is the concession to the complexity of all issues. I think our political MSM is more damaging than we care to acknowledge, and disways us from truly open serious and deep debate. I have no solutions although I have passed on suggestions to the networks via e-mail. They don’t seem dedicated in any degree to the truth, or the deeper discussion that our issues deserve and could inspire. Our society is very careless with the truth, it does not seem to be a high priority, the impacts of which serve no favorable effect.

        Life is lived forward, it is understood backwards.

    • August 1, 2011 at 6:28 am

      I don’t even know if they are fickle, UT. Were they ever supporters in the first place, begs the question. I like to see one of them vandalize my car. They better not let me catch them.

      These people like you say, are worse than the teabaggers. They are the teabaggers and then some.

      One other thing we’ve seen in addition to the Republicans exposing themselves, we have also seen a visceral hate directed at this president by the left. We have seen a media come completely clean about their own greed and hate for this man.

      We have seen some in the Democratic party stab him in the back, pull the knife out and shove it deep into his spine.

      After PBO, none of these weasels better come crawlig looking for a vote from me on the national level. I will work to elect people in my city council, school board, etc. But I am done with these back stabbing, oft times hate mongers.

      Good morning everyone. Hope today is better and tomorrow even brighter.

    • 120 ChristiMtl
      August 1, 2011 at 7:56 am

      I love you for what you wrote UT! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
      I’m livid this morning.
      I’m still new to twitter, but I’m going to unfollow anyone who bash the President this morning. Fuck them.
      He’s dealing with terrorists but the &”(*%&*(%&(” PL still bash him.
      Paul Krugman did more damage to the President with his daily garbage than any teabagger could ever do.

      • 121 prettyfoot58
        August 1, 2011 at 10:02 am

        i sent an email to my family, friends, neighbors, coworkers….telling them before they listen to all the talking heads to read the proposed deal…..i included a link to the WH website….

        but ..we all must keep in mind that it has to past both houseses…..i do not think it will pass in the house…in the final hour there will be a clean debt ceiling bill….

      • 122 Sue in Minnesota
        August 1, 2011 at 10:56 am

        Let’s put pressure on the Republicans in the House with respect to jobs. And I also think it is essential to go on the offensive regarding the hostage taking tactics of the Republicans, as if this is something new. Only now they have the Tea Party excuse which they will attempt to use to their advantage to explain away their unprincipled and undemocratic intentions. I think we should defend President Obama’s work when the truth is challenged, but I think the Republicans should be the target of most of our attention. The Republicans have much to answer for,

  21. 123 Walking_on_ Sunshine
    August 1, 2011 at 12:45 am

    I’m happy to let the Republicans portray this as a win for them until AFTER the votes are in. Let the PL freak out. It will make it easier for the Republicans to vote for it. I will keep very quiet until after this is over. The real information can come out after the thing is signed by the President.

    What is this other crisis that people are talking about in two months time?

    There is never a dull moment is there?

    • 124 nospin
      August 1, 2011 at 6:11 pm

      “I’m happy to let the Republicans portray this as a win for them until AFTER the votes are in.”

      I agree with that strategy.

  22. 125 Ceb
    August 1, 2011 at 12:58 am

    Thanks everyone for your calm and reasoned responses to the details of the proposed deal (as Tally has reminded everyone, it is not a done deal until the votes are taken). You join PBO as adults in this process and I really appreciate it. The sky is not falling and the future is still bright. PBO will do more than his part and we will do ours. One good thing about this messy process is that more Americans have stood up and let their voices be heard. Many have become invigorated and excited about being engaged. If the people of Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Syria can stand and risk their lives to defeat tyrants, surely we can stand up and fight against the haters, the tea party, the recalcitrant republicans and their masters. Finally, throughout this process, PBO has once again shown the qualities that have made so many support him. I look forward tom the future of our country under his continued leadership. The best is yet to come.

    Good night and may God bless the president and his administration, his family, all of you and the USA.

  23. 126 askew
    August 1, 2011 at 1:18 am

    Damn, Van Jones is retweeting a bunch of PL tweets calling Dems failures, etc. Had to unfollow Van Jones. Very disappointed that he fell for the nonsense.

  24. 128 isonprize
    August 1, 2011 at 1:28 am

    Here’s some fun for ya!! The BAD BILLIONAIRE BALLOT!! (my subtitle: Lord, How am I going to be able to boycott Home DEPOT??)

    From RootsAction – Wired for Change… I stumbled across this site. They are advocating impeaching Clarence Thomas… I’m ALL IN!!! :lol:

    Bad Billionaire Ballot

    More detailed information on the candidates…

    Balance the Budget on the Back of Billionaires

    • August 1, 2011 at 1:49 am

      I checked that out, isontheprize. I saw it was written by David Swanson who does a much better job of going after Billionaires than President Obama. He’s always lying about him. When you see who endorses that site..”Cornel West, Glenn Greenwald, etc” that might give you an idea. When I went to what the site was About..it talked about the 2010 elections being blamed on tepid Dems..not PL saying to stay home. What about Russ Feingold, was he “tepid”?

      Anyway, it’s a good expose of the rw greedy billionaires club..too bad David Swanson doesn’t stick to facts on rw instead of making up shyte about President Obama and the Dems.

      • 130 nathkatun7
        August 1, 2011 at 6:39 am

        Well said Cha! But not only Russ Feingold but also Alan Grayson and the guy who went after Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas. Until the “holier than progressives” (many of whom like Jane Hamsher and Adam Green, Glenn Greenwald and David Sirota, are into bashing President Obama because it’s a ticket to making money) demonstrate any ability to elect so called “bold progressives” I will no longer take them seriously. You see I’ve learned something from history. “Bold progressives” almost prevented Harry Truman from being re-elected in 1948. Now Truman is one of their heroes. “Bold Progressives” chased LBJ from running for re-election, and made it difficult for long term Civil Rights advocate Hubert Humphrey to win the Presidency. And we ended up with Richard Nixon. But guess what? Now both LBJ and HH are heroes of the “holier than thou progressives.” And as much as I was personally taken in, “bold progressives” abandoned Jimmy Carter, one of the most truly caring human being, and we ended up with Ronald Reagan. Perhaps the most destructive tantrum by “bold progressives” is when they abandoned VP Al Gore and we ended up with George W. Bush, probably one of the most destructive president. I am sorry, but I will never again support the spoiled, self-destructive antics of the “bold progressives.” I want progress even if it’s small and incremental. I don’t want massive regression, all in the name of holding myself out as a “pure progressive.” I am absolutely convinced that the heroes of today’s self indulgent, “holier than thou progressives,” who emulate the tactics of teabaggers, would be appalled at the way they are treating President Obama, whose progressive record of achievement is unmatched by any of the previous presidents.

  25. 131 Bobfr
    August 1, 2011 at 1:44 am

    Dear Chipsticks,

    Thank you for your wonderful community and all your are doing to support our President and all Americans.

    And, thank you for posting my little letter.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  26. 132 Jennifer
    August 1, 2011 at 2:06 am

    OK, just emailed Boxer, Feinstein (my senators), Waxman (my representative), Leaders Reid and Pelosi, and the President and Vice President. Can’t think of anyone else to email. Hope this bill passes tomorrow. Maybe I should have emailed the whips to thank them, too.

    • 133 Obama Grandmama
      August 1, 2011 at 2:59 am

      I read one reply wanting the Dems to vote it down for a clean bill. I do not think that is wise at this point when we are so close to the default. I’d say vote yes on the plan to avoid the default. I emailed my rep and both senators to support the bill. What time are they voting tomorrow? One time today I heard Nancy Pelosi had the Dems in her office and had their support. Then another time later I heard the MSM saying it would be a hard bill to get any Dem support on. Rumors all day so I have no idea how the vote will turn out.

  27. 134 chiara
    August 1, 2011 at 2:29 am

    I’m just going to say it. We have all seen that man smile, we know what that megawatt smile looks like so I am hard pressed to call that look on his face anything close to a smile. More like the look of a very annoyed man who had to swallow a very, very bitter pill in order to save the country from extreme extortionists.

  28. 138 sam uk obama supporter
    August 1, 2011 at 4:40 am

    Thank you President Obama for yet again being the only adult in the room. Your leadership is awesome and your compassion for all people is amazing. Thanks also to Leader Pelosi and Leader Reid for their tireless work. Let us pray that Congress passes this and we can all breath a collective sigh of relief.

    This past few weeks have been tough on us all but none moreso than your wonderful President, I hope he can now get some much needed rest. He really is the greatest leader ever.

    May God bless President Obama.

  29. 139 Dudette
    August 1, 2011 at 6:09 am

    Here’s a link to the fact sheet from the WH with details on the deal.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheet-victory-bipartisan-compromise-economy-american-people

  30. 140 Ladyhawke
    August 1, 2011 at 7:08 am

    This is a participatory democracy. What stood out to me in the comments of President Obama is this:

    =========================================
    Most of all, I want to thank the American people. It’s been your voices — your letters, your emails, your tweets, your phone calls — that have compelled Washington to act in the final days. And the American people’s voice is a very, very powerful thing.
    =========================================

    Whatever happens, I think the Republican Party manufactured crisis has done something they did not anticipate or think through:

    THEY HAVE AWAKENED A SLEEPING GIANT & PROVED THAT INFORMATION IS POWER

    When President Obama told Majority Leader Eric Cantor that he was going to take his case to the American people. I got the impression that Eric didn’t really take him seriously. But hours after President Obama made an appeal to the American people to contact their representatives, websites were crashing and telephone lines were getting busy signals and mailboxes were full. Also, there was that wonderful one page document called THE U.S. NATIONAL DEBT which clearly showed that we are in this mess because of President George W. Bush. And the press conferences and speeches from the Democrats were magnificent.

    Bottom line, we have to be relentless in focusing on JOBS. We must continue to expose the Republican Party for being willing to do this stunt purely for political gain. It was President Obama and the Democrats who were fighting for the middle class and the Republicans were looking out for the wealthy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_democracy

  31. August 1, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Poor President Obama. My heart really goes out to him. He has been working so hard and it shows.

    For those who can’t see how hard he works is just downright blind and mean.

    I don’t know President Obama personally but I fell like I do and I consider him like a member of my family.

    And during tough times a family sticks together and I just want to say how proud I am of all of you for sticking together with this President through tick and thin.

    You guys are an inspiration and I am happy to be part of the Obama Diary family. :)

    Have a great day guys!

  32. 142 halo.
    August 1, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Tally is wrong. They will push it through the House.

    But let’s hope the deal does put spending cuts in the out years because taking money out of the economy righ tnow is not a good idea.

    • 143 COS
      August 1, 2011 at 7:45 am

      I just listened to Rep. Jim Clyburn being interviewed by Tom Joyner, and he said that they are not there yet on the deal. I only caught the end of the interview. From the sound of his voice he did not seem that pleased with ceetain aspects. They are still working it out.

      • August 1, 2011 at 8:00 am

        I heard him from the start, COS. He said the deal was a “bad deal.” He said that they are concerned that this supercomittee might be stacked with people who will not do the right thing by letting the revenues kick in. He said that Rush Limbaugh is lobbyig Boehner and McConnell right now to put these kinds of people on the committee.

        Roland pointed out that Boehner needs Democrats to vote for the Bill. Clyburn said yes, and that Boehner may have a surprise on his hands, because the votes are not there yet. He said that many people are leaning no, and he is one of them.

      • 145 57andFemale
        August 1, 2011 at 8:47 am

        There’s going to be a lot of posturing today, from both sides. It’s frankly okay for Jim Clyburn and others to remind people that this deal is NOT how Democrats would address our problems, as long as they don’t go off into bizarro-world thinking that the President was going to get serious tax increases out of this bunch of insane monsters. There’s a line for me, where it damages Democrats and the President that should never be crossed. But to say what Democrats would prefer, point a finger at the hostage-takers and accept that it is Congress’ and the President’s responsibility to work with whomever the voters have sent to Congress — that’s okay.

        I’m trying to get my husband to understand that it’s posturing, that each side wants to make sure their constituents know that we want it to be different, we want it to be better. Then send us more and better Democrats and don’t stay home on election day.

        I assume the President’s information is really sound in terms of what the ratings agencies and bondholders feel about our debt. Is has been deadly serious that we have to tackle it. This is anathema to everyone on the left, and austerity has failed in a recession in the past. The cuts are back-loaded, however. There is some protection for the Big Three, but yes — they will be part of the discussion for the commission. But so will tax increases. And we have then have an opportunity to work on the American people concerning taxes, cuts vs. taxes, etc. Obama won the battle hands down on the importance of the debt ceiling.

        The WH seems to be confident that the trigger is good enough. I did, too, but I think the assumption that this takes the debt ceiling off the table until 2013 is not clear, at least not totally clear to me. A deficit package has to be agreed to (and I believe voted on) before the President can raise the debt ceiling next year, if need be. It does not say, however, that the package has to PASS.

        I heard some tea party loon from TX yesterday who said that he didn’t like the BBA Amendment clause because it didn’t demand that it PASS. Why doesn’t he just make Paul Ryan king and have no votes at all?

        Anyway, I’m okay with the deal. It was going to suck, but it sucks less than I was afraid it might.

        No visits to dKos today — I usually fight a battle over there just because I think we pragmatists should be heard. But I’m drained. I don’t need to hear it today.

        • 146 hopefruit2
          August 1, 2011 at 8:57 am

          Yes, people like Clyburn and Pelosi have to go through the motions of saying that they don’t like this..that..etc.. The President himself did so last night by saying that he didn’t prefer this deal. From what I’ve read on some Teaparty blogs, they are mighty unhappy with Boner and McConnell right night saying that they need to be primaried, not donating a red cent evah to the Repub party, Obama always gets his way when he manufactures these crises etc…

          So the extreme factions of either party are unhappy, but we pragmatists already know that this country (or any country for that matter) can’t be governed effectively by extremists.

        • 147 COS
          August 1, 2011 at 9:30 am

          Thanks 57. I am with you re the deal. When some of these folks realize that “you can’t draw blood from a turnip”, even after you try very hard, maybe they will understand. I get notifications from Tori’s blog on face book , and already I have seen comments from a couple of so-called suppoters saying they are done, and a dropping out of the group. People who have been following politics and are TRUE supporters don’t take their marbles and go home on one issue just because things don’t go like they wanted it.

          • 148 Sue in Minnesota
            August 1, 2011 at 11:10 am

            You put no skin in the game than you keep your frustrations to yourself. I so agree with you COS….there will always be issues ahead of us….we keep going. We need to keep our eye on the prize.

            Everyday my skin gets a little tougher, my resolve a little stronger, and I learn so much from all of you. It is great to be part of such a stimulating and encouraging support system. Let’s keep it going and growing.

          • 149 Sue in Minnesota
            August 1, 2011 at 11:33 am

            Life is kind of like a treadmill, if you quit walking you’ll get thrown off. I think we encounter a lot of flamers, and antangonists throughout the internet that are there for that very reason, to agitate, weaken and divide. There is no end to the issues we face as people, as a nation, or as members of the worldwide community. Let the quitters quit, with no skin in the game they can reserve their frustrations and opinions for themselves. We will keep moving forward, one foot in front of the other. Everyday my skin gets a little thicker, by voice grows stronger.
            I have gained so much through this supportive and positive community. Let’s continue to keep our eyes on what matters, growing support and community for what binds us together.

            Yes.We.Can.

  33. 150 ChristiMtl
    August 1, 2011 at 8:03 am

    I just read that on my twitter feed.

    LOLGOP Pete Nicely
    by dkern
    We need Krugman and Greenwald to push the President to the left. And we need to push the GOP toward the door.
    6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    A fucking libertarian who hates the President with passion and a Puma who bash the President on a daily basic? We need them??

    My twitter list will be very short in a bit. Cleaning up the garbage.

  34. August 1, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Dear Bobfr,

    If you are here. I wanted to thank you for another excellent post. Also, I liked it so much, I wanted to let you know that I copied it and resent it to Speaker Pelosi via her contact at The Gavel.

    I explained that the letter was not my original idea, but that I wanted to reinforce what you had written to her.

    I hope you don’t mind my doing that.

  35. 152 ZeeUK
    August 1, 2011 at 8:37 am

    In the past few days, the American media has been blowing this debt ceiling thing out of proportion. They have made it their duty to milk it out of it’s worth, scaring American people and the entire world. Headline after headline has made it all look like something disastrous to human survival was about to happen. Counting down the hours e.t.c. ”No deal yet, First ever default in American history about to happen, The worst disaster in American history just hours away….The looming default, the looming default, the looming default….etc etc”. And now that a plan to stop this disaster has been achieved, only the negative part of the deal has received the headlines. I have not seen a single, ECONOMIC DEFAULT TO BE AVOIDED headline. I have however read lots of, ”OBAMA CAVES IN”. The President was put under pressure to use the 14th Amendment because they thought the republicans would not support anything that would raise the debt ceiling, but it has happened and the President did not have to invoke the 14th Amendment. In my eyes, that is a HUGE WIN for the President. I’m sorry but I think a good number of Americans are just not very bright. They have refused to celebrate that little victory but have opted to magnify BOEHNER for winning over the President. You just can’t make these things up. The fact that there will likely be no default is not good enough. The claws are out for the President for his superb leadership.
    OBAMA 2012!!!

    • 153 hopefruit2
      August 1, 2011 at 8:51 am

      ZeeUK you are exactly right. The MSM and their GOP friends are the ones using relatively normal events and situations and turning them into crises of epic proportions in order to destroy this President’s support among the people and to render him a “one-term President.”

    • 154 isonprize
      August 1, 2011 at 8:58 am

      ZeeUK, I disagree with you. I think a great number of Americans ARE very bright. When they have accurate information from which to work, they often come to the best conclusion for our wellbeing as a country. In fact, I think, that is what President Obama banks on.

      We are all very busy, and often don’t have the time or energy to weed thru the BS to get to the truth. I am old enough to remember when there was a semblance of good reporting in newspapers. (way before the interwebs 8) ) Journalists had integrity and the willingness to dig for the truth. For example, I don’t think the energy and drive exists today that drove the Watergate story that brought down President Nixon. Now journalists are lazy and paid off by corporate bosses. TV news folks hire glamorous readers (the men AND the women) only interested in ratings and sensational headlines. I can’t imagine that Mika Brzezinski’s careeer makes her father proud…

      That leaves the average American to their own devices to sniff out the truth. American are not stupid, they are uninformed. There is a HUGE difference.

      • 155 ZeeUK
        August 1, 2011 at 9:33 am

        @isonprize, like I said, A GOOD NUMBER OF AMERICANS ARE NOT VERY BRIGHT, i did not say ALL or the MAJORITY. I have tried to explain my views in the above comment and here is some more;
        First of all, AMERICANS voted into congress the REPUBLICANS, so soon after witnessing what they did to the economy during the Bush years. By voting the Republicans back into Congress, they gave them authority to make decisions concerning their economy and make the New President’s job difficult. I mean, It boggles me how the Republicans were allowed into congress, why?. I happen to follow American politics a lot, more so than some Americans and I see a lot of things that makes me question their judgement. I mean, in the last few months, we have seen Republicans make comments like ”….we are not going to do anything that will support Obama’s reelection…” meaning they are not going to support economic growth. In the last few weeks, they have declared their desire for the American economy to default, and these are people who were elected by Americans. Now that a deal which does not really favor the welbeing of the vast majority of Americans have been decided by Republicans and clearly frowned upon by the President has been made, they are celebrating. I have been to many forums and I have seen the kind of comments left by people not pleased with the President ‘caving in’ and giving kudos to Boehner for winning.
        I’ll tell you something isonprize, when it was time for the British to vote in a new government, the Labour party was not very popular with the British people and had been in power for over 10 years but the British refused to vote in majority for the conservatives because they knew that the conservative party did not have the best interest of the British people at heart. For that reason, even if the Labour party was not very popular because of it’s short comings, the British people voted a hung parliament which forced a coalition. This means that the British people did not like to take chances with the conservatives after what they had done to our country all those years ago and just refused to support them. The Americans on the other hand, voted in their worst enemy to SPITE the President…now look what is happening. I’m sure isonprize you are not among those ignorant Americans because you do not share their views and so you should not be offended. The fact that they Voted the Republicans into congress makes them ignorant, they knew what the republicans were about but many went out and ensured that these republicans are given power to do exactly what they are doing to the American economy now. I hope that explains a little why I feel some Americans are just not very bright.

    • 160 lochelle
      August 1, 2011 at 9:11 am

      I agree with you – the media is stupid, biased and total waste of my positive energy. Today is one of those days I will not be scanning too many headlines. The very idea they would elevate Boner as a “winner” is just a lie, especially he has not shown any leadership or good faith qualities throughout this whole debacle. When some of the hysteria dies down, I think there will be better clarity from some about this deal. I read the comprehensive fact sheet on Whitehouse.gov a second time and I think this deal accomplished most of what PBO wanted and has a reasonable framework given the circumstances. Yeah, there are no immediate revenues (for now) and there is a Congressional balance budget committee but at least we are taking the necessary steps to cut the “fat” so to speak and really taking some significant steps to reduce the deficit; also, there will not be another debt ceiling fignt in the near future, we will not default on our obligations and we keep our AAA rating. I hope the more moderate pols in both parties are looking at the situation in this context rather than politicizing even more than it has been, especially since this bill needs to be ratified by tomorrow.

  36. 161 criquet
    August 1, 2011 at 9:17 am

    I think PBO was wise not to try to use the 14th Amendment.
    Had he done so, the Repugs would have had him at impeachment hearings by next week through 2012.
    Then he would have to rely on those treacherous Dems to save him who if they did would never let him forget it and be forever demanding whatever.
    Also he would have to have faved the electorate as an impeached President. Not good knowing the Right wing messaging who would allege he got off on a technicality etc.

    He did the best he could in horrible circumstances.

  37. 163 Anonymous
    August 1, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I just want to say how much I appreciate our President. He, as we all know, is working tirelessly without any help or gratitude. The MSM is sickening with it’s “Obama loses” meme. Keep in mind this is a meme they would have used no matter what the outcome. I am no expert, but it seems to me, the Prez got what he wanted. He pushed this ridiculous “crisis” off the table for 2012. No cuts go into effect until 2013, which means with a Democratic House and Senate, things could change. America knows the truth, that he saved this country from the GOP’s manufactured crisis.

    He’s tired. I hope his BD celebration is a smash and that this latest horrific act by the GOP raises him lots of money. I’m not watching the lying msm today. Instead, I’m finishing my prep for the House Party I’m having in honor of Prez’s 50th. On Wednesday, thousands of gatherings will show the Prez how much we love and appreciate him.

    • August 1, 2011 at 9:45 am

      Above post from me, Proud. I always forget to log in first.

    • 165 Eleroy
      August 1, 2011 at 10:21 am

      I’m personally quadrupling what I was originally going to donate to our magnificent President, PoO!!! Tomorrow, I’m taking some friends with us to a birthday fundraiser for President Obama here in San Francisco and we intend to have a great time too!!!

      Thank you President Obama for putting up with so much garbage on behalf of the American people!!! You Sir ROCK!!!

  38. August 1, 2011 at 9:40 am

    For what it is worth, I do not think this is over yet. I think this whole thing will be scratched and a one liner clean bill will have to be signed. I cannot see the far right going for this bill. The House vote will be scheduled too late in the day. However, I do not see how they get a clean bill now with a downgrade being threatened because there is not enough in spending cuts. This whole thing was nonsense and my dislike for the Republicans has quadrupled.

  39. 168 Ceb
    August 1, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Good morning true supporters of PBO

    Just wanted to say again how much I admire PBO for the way that he has carried us through this needless crisis. I also admire various democrats, especially Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi for the heavy lifting that they did in the final stages of this effort. Hopefully, the final votes will go through with little public drama so that we can get to what they all should have been working on: jobs, jobs, jobs.
    I would also recommend that any one who comments on the deal should first read the White House fact sheet that gives the details. Those of us who have read it, and it is clear that many people here have done so, should share it with friends and family so that they will understand and be less likely to be swayed by the pundits, so-called experts, and extremists from the right and the left.
    Some one said that politicians campaign in poetry and govern in prose. The good news is that we have a leader who is a master of both.
    Thanks also to the up-post commentors who provided the political history. I always learn so much when I come here. I love how most of us are so supportive and active and informed and grown-up in our opinions; what a relief!
    Have a great day everyone and keep the faith.

  40. 169 Sue
    August 1, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Prez O looks tired.

  41. 170 auntydee
    August 1, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    BHO, still has my vote! and my faith in him is still strong.


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