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so, eh, is netanyahu an enemy of israel too?

Greg Sargent (Washington Post): Huh. Netanyahu is now reportedly open to using the 1967 lines with swaps as the basis for negotiations, which is exactly what he pilloried Obama for (with the nodding approval of many craven Dems in Congress):

AP: In a dramatic policy shift, Israel’s prime minister has agreed to negotiate the borders of a Palestinian state based on the cease-fire line that marks off the West Bank, a TV station reported Monday.

Up to now, Benjamin Netanyahu has refused to spell out his plan for negotiating the border. A senior Israeli official would not confirm outright that the prime minister was now willing to adopt the cease-fire line as a starting point, but said Israel was willing to try new formulas to restart peace talks based on a proposal made by President Barack Obama.

In a speech about the Middle East in May, Obama proposed negotiations based on the pre-1967 line with agreed swaps of territory between Israel and a Palestinian state. Netanyahu reacted angrily, insisting that Israel would not withdraw from all of the West Bank, though that was not what Obama proposed.

Now Netanyahu is basically accepting that framework, according to Channel 2 TV, offering to trade Israeli territory on its side of the line for West Bank land where its main settlements are located…..

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29 Responses to “so, eh, is netanyahu an enemy of israel too?”


  1. August 1, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    I’ll never forget or forgive the reception this sob received from our Congress for his bs remarks and his attacks on POTUS. President Obama always knew this was how it would go.. but heaven forbid anyone should listen and respect his counsel. I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with all the BS pointed at our President in 3 years.

  2. August 1, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Although it has nothing to do with Palestine, but could it be that the country embroiled in daily protests of late?

    …..’.”More than 100,000 Israelis have taken to the streets nationwide to protest rising housing prices in the largest turnout since the grass-roots demonstrations began two weeks ago.

    The protests over housing costs have tapped into wider discontent among Israelis over the high cost of living and the growing gaps between rich and poor.

    Other protests include doctors striking over working conditions and pay, parents demonstrating against expensive child rearing costs and similar outpourings over increasing gas prices.

    Tens of thousands thronged the streets of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and other major cities on Saturday and chanted, “The people demand social justice…… “‘

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/07/201173020161903849.html

    or this:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/31/protest-israel-house-prices-salaries

  3. 7 Bobfr
    August 1, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Once again, when the archives of SoS Clinton, VP Biden, and President Obama are made available, we will learn that the three of them, and others, brought this corrupt little thug to his senses. And, you betcha, the fact that Sept is only a short month away and UN motions for recognition of Palestine as a legitimate State are at the forefront of just how much leverage President Obama and his foreign policy team have.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  4. 8 majii
    August 1, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Fear and embarrassment can be strong motivators. Netanyahu knows the UN vote to recognize Palestine as a separate state is next month. He is probably scared $h!tless about it. Too bad. He should have remembered that he needed PBO more than PBO needed him. Susan Rice takes her orders from PBO, not Congress.

    • 9 StR
      August 1, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Netanyahu is saying he’ll consider using the ’67 lines with landswaps in negotiations IF the Palestinians drop their UN bid. That ship has sailed, no way the Palestinians walk away from the UN vote now. President Obama gave Bibi an out, and Bibi spit on it.

    • August 1, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you got that right, my friend :-)

  5. 12 EDP4BHO
    August 1, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    I’m not long on wording as a rule, so suffice it to say, I knew it, I knew it. I did predict that he would eventually see things PBO’s way. Let’s all keep watching the greatness that is our President and his administration, and let the banal punditry have at it. They will fizzle out, but President Obama will leave a rich legacy.

    • 13 Obama Grandmama
      August 1, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      I am hoping for eight years of this exceptional President then I will begin donating to his Presidential Library next and planning a trip to go see it. Wonder if it will be in Chicago or Honolulu? Secretly smiling. I hope I get my scrapbook of my time working to elect this man along with his Presidential years before his library is done. I am beginning to think it will be more like an encyclopedia set in length that a scrapbook.

      • 14 EDP4BHO
        August 1, 2011 at 11:13 pm

        Chicao, Honolulu…..I haven’t been to either city so either is good enough for me. Just to think, visiting a Presidential Library. Something I have never done. But first, we have to work our butts off for 2012, and support him throughout his second term. I’m working on gathering “facts” about his governing, to parallel with the lies and misconceptions, to present to everyone I know and to passersby on the street. I just have to dig for my old fact sheets and update them. Lots to prepare for.

        • 15 Cindy Sweatt
          August 2, 2011 at 1:31 am

          There is a conference call tomorrow night for OFA organizers. I can’t be on it. Chipsticks, is there anyway you can get the call and post it here? That would be wonderful. I wish they would give more notice than one day.

  6. 17 cuphalffull
    August 1, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Netanyahu could be ousted over those demonstrations, I believe. Not like here where we can’t get someone out between elections without impeaching them.

    • 18 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      August 1, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      I’m not sure I would like that to happen here cuphalffull. Can you imagine how frenzied the teapots would get if they thought they had a chance to really oust the President?

  7. 19 Walking_on_ Sunshine
    August 1, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    I would love to see a real peace agreement on President Obama’s watch. It was unfortunate that he had to deal with a hardliner but it seems like nothing is going to come easily. If he pulls this off he will have accomplished something that no-one else has been able to get done. The whole world is sick of this never ending conflict.

    • August 1, 2011 at 10:48 pm

      Yeahhhhh and me too, but who knows, anything can still happen on Obama’s watch. It sureeeeeeeeeeee would be nice :-)

      • 21 EDP4BHO
        August 1, 2011 at 11:15 pm

        It really would add to his “bfd’s”, and he has more than anyone else. We have to constantly remind people of his accomplishments. We have an uphill battle but a very worthy one. Going to bed now. Nite everyone :-D

  8. 22 utaustinliberal
    August 1, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    It would be wonderful if finally a real and sustainable peace agreement occurs between Israel and Palestine. I sincerely hope it happens in Barack Obama’s presidency. He was right to specifically say that talks had to include the 1967 borders. The GOP, some Dems, and blind media types began yelling fire in a crowded room and bowing before Netanyahu. Now Bibi realizes he should have sat down and worked with President Obama instead of walking out like a petulant Cantor. The people in his country have been protesting and calling for peace talks. Hopefully he listens and is partakes of a constructive resolution.

    ps: I cannot wait to read President Obama’s book on his Presidency and visit his Presidential Library. Oh what joy!

    • 23 roh108
      August 2, 2011 at 12:50 am

      What a tear jerker that day will be . Bring plenty of tissue. :D

    • August 2, 2011 at 1:33 am

      I can predict the poutrage now from about his book: ” Over 400 pages and Not One Word about the Public Option!”

      • 25 Charmd
        August 2, 2011 at 8:26 am

        LOL, I swear somebody was on twitter over the weekend whining about the “public option” I don’t understand why they don’t fight to have it in the future vs. whining over not getting it in the past.

  9. 27 LYNND
    August 2, 2011 at 6:42 am

    Heh,heh, heh. All of that scheming and plotting behind the President’s back with Eric Cantor, only to have it come to this. The President has too much class to gloat about it.

  10. 28 CEB
    August 2, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Kharma is a bitch! PBO told him what had to be done and Bibi acted like a spoiled child, aiding and abetted by our infantile congress while Dadddy was out of the country. Like so many before him, Bibi has egg on his face big time. It happens over and over: they doubt, ridicule and underestimate PBO and each time they wound up defeated and wondering how it happened. They really should know better by now.

  11. 29 gd4pbo
    August 2, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I am so glad that PBO doesn’t kowtow to Israel like some members of Congress do. He spoke openly about a policy that has been discussed privately by past administrations and he didn’t back down in the face of criticism. They (Congress) should realize that this ain’t the United States of Israel! Country first people!


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