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Sep
11

where are the jobs, boehner?

Marketwatch: Job growth was unchanged in August, the weakest performance in almost a year, the Labor Department said Friday. The weak report was lower than the 53,000 gain expected by Wall Street economists. A strike at Verizon Communications cut 45,000 from payrolls in the month. The unemployment rate held steady at 9.1% as expected.

Steve Benen: …. For the first time in six decades, the U.S. simply broke even – no jobs were lost in the overall economy, and no jobs were gained…

…. It’s worth noting that the figures are skewed a bit by the Verizon strike, which has since been resolved. The labor dispute temporarily subtracted 45,000 jobs from the economy, so when that’s taken into consideration, the overall economy actually added 45,000 jobs in August, which was roughly in line with expectations.

But that’s cold comfort in the midst of a prolonged jobs crisis … This report reinforces the impression that the economy is just stalled, waiting for someone to give it a boost …. It’s a boost, of course, that congressional Republicans are desperate to prevent.

…. August, to be sure, was a brutal month all around. Wall Street took wild swings; Republican antics led to a downgrade in U.S. debt; the European debt crisis intensified, etc. The fact that hiring effectively halted in the month is not shocking.

But it is painful, and serves as yet another wake-up call to anyone who’ll listen: we have a jobs crisis, not a deficit crisis. If our political system were in any way sane, elected leaders would look at these numbers and conclude that the economy desperately needs an immediate jolt. Job creation should be the first, and arguably only, priority on the minds of policymakers.

Full post here

Steve Benen: When the jobs reports were looking quite good in the early spring, Republican leaders were eager to take credit for the positive numbers they had nothing to do with. After all, as far as GOP officials were concerned, their mere presence in the House majority was enough to inspire job creators everywhere.

But if Republicans demanded credit for the job totals in the spring, these same Republicans are desperate to avoid blame for job totals in the summer. It’s a nice little scam Republicans have put together: when more jobs are being created, it’s proof they’re right; when fewer jobs are being created, it’s proof Democrats are wrong.

Heads they win; tails Obama loses…..

More here


200 Responses to “where are the jobs, boehner?”


  1. 1 Fred
    September 2, 2011 at 8:52 am

    jeebus this is horrible.Thank you very fucking much drunkie

  2. 2 halo
    September 2, 2011 at 8:54 am

    It won’t matter. Everyone will blame the President. And John Boehner knows this.

    • 3 hopefruit2
      September 2, 2011 at 9:07 am

      That’s absolutely false. “Everyone” will not blame the President. It’s only the usual people who will blame him, and I’m referring here to the anti-Obama contingent (and that includes all of the MSM, PL, Fauxgressives and Teaparty).

      And the next thing I have to say is that I don’t believe any of these figures. I truly think that the corporations and Republican governors have been supressing their hiring deliberately to keep the unemployment high. For every news pundit that the corporations hire to spread their false propaganda, they could hire 4 working adults at a decent living wage. . After Obama caught Bin Laden, there was a sudden change in the employment figures which had been steadily on the rise. And the MSM had no problem lying with GWB to get us in an illegal war, they have no reason to stop lying about unemployment to get a Republican elected in 2012.

      • 4 bison
        September 2, 2011 at 9:21 am

        There is too much time spent on what people think the president is doing wrong instead of firing at the other side, which deserves the wrath.

        • 5 halo
          September 2, 2011 at 9:33 am

          I do’nt know how else I can say that the American people don’t care about what the “other side” is doing. They just don’t. Their memories are like a goldfish’s. If something isn’t working, in the end, they will blame the President. That’s just life and the President can either sit back and, as BIll Maher said, keep trying to be Jackie Robinson, hoping people recognize his good intentions, or he has to EXPLAIN and FIGHT for what he WANTS to do with passion. President Obama isn’t a baseball player. He is the owrld’s most powerful man. He needs to do a better job of leveraging that power.

          • 6 jacquelineoboomer
            September 2, 2011 at 10:32 am

            With the odds that the Republicans have struck against him – it’s just not that easy. President Obama fought the Chicago political machine, the Clinton machine, the McCain machine, the PUMA machine, the Republican machine, got bin Laden, kept us safe … which is why he’s now the world’s most powerful leader. However, there are two other branches of government plus the fourth estate, and a great percentage of those people are working against him every minute. Oh, and the Bill Maher quote is demeaning to both Jackie Robinson and President Obama – which is why I don’t watch Bill any more.

            There’s no magic wand to wave. It’s up to all of us to get involved every step of the way, to make sure the President is re-elected, and that the Democrats keep the Senate and take back the House. Never before has that been as important. We can’t point fingers at President Obama alone … we must also point them at ourselves, regroup, and help him get the job done. Let’s go after Republicans; let’s not self-destruct.

            • 7 SAB
              September 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm

              Unfortuanately, I agree with BOTH comments. When people are desparate for work, they want quick fixes, they don’t care about policy or politcs. And the president is the scapegoae when things go wrong. On the other hand, what can he do? He doesn’t control the economy. He kept us afloat but it will take more time. But I fear that some people don’t want to hear that.

            • 8 prettyfoot58
              September 2, 2011 at 5:54 pm

              There’s no magic wand to wave. It’s up to all of us to get involved every step of the way, to make sure the President is re-elected, and that the Democrats keep the Senate and take back the House. Never before has that been as important. We can’t point fingers at President Obama alone … we must also point them at ourselves, regroup, and help him get the job done. Let’s go after Republicans; let’s not self-destruct.

              ******************************************
              Right ON

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:44 am

            Please don’t bring Bill Maher crap here. It’s just effin ugly media BS.

        • September 2, 2011 at 4:40 pm

          And, if only President Obama would be just like them..big whiny bullies.

      • 11 halo
        September 2, 2011 at 9:29 am

        Hopefruit, you know that as strong supporters of PBO, we have to look at reality objectively and not engage in conspiracy theories. The reality is that PBO’s approval ratings have been hitting high 30s and low 40s so it’s not the “usual anti-Obama contingent.” It’s foolish to say that over 50% of Americans are Faux News/Tea Party/PL. Whether fair or not, that is fact and people are very upset about the jobs situation, as they should be. It’s not being negative. It’s being truthful. And sometimes the truth hurts. And to say that you don’t believe the numbers when it is PBO’s own Labor Dept. is silly. To say companies are deliberately not hiring to hurt PBO is also not tenable. It’s not how companies and businesses work. Companies and businesses work for the bottom line. PERIOD. And when they have enough workers or can ship them overseas to maximize profits, they will. When there aren’t enough skilled workers, they won’t hire.

        Also, PBO has basically been sitting back, taking hits, and not even responding to them. It’s the same strategy he took with the Oil Spill and Healthcare and the Stimulus. He keeps thinking “good policy will lead to good politics” but I don’t think he gets that people don’t pay attention to policy. And they don’t care about GOP obstructionism. They only listen to 20 minutes of news, and make a gut judgment as to whether things are working or not. You have to go out of your way to SELL, SUPPORT, and EXPLAIN what you’re doing. You have to COMBAT the LIES. You can’t rely on the American people to sort it out for you. That is just naive. Any reading of presidential history will tell you that people are emotional and react to policies emotionally. They are not wonks. You have to give them something to believe in.

        Hopefully his jobs program will. But from this mornign’s NYT, it looks like he’s going for small ball instead of going big.

        • September 2, 2011 at 9:45 am

          Amen, 1,000,000 times. I don’t know what makes him have so much faith in people’s knowledge or ability to appreciate all of his amazing qualities. Most voters are idiots. They buy what the media tell them. They still don’t know how much good there is for them in the HCR bill.

          PBO’s circle need a 180 degrees course change. And the first step should be to go very big on that jobs speech. This congress won’t approve anything no matter what – at least score some political points.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:19 am

            How do you know Congress won’t approve anything no matter what or that he’s not building the leverage to force them to? That guy from the Chamber of Commerce which by the way wants infrastructure spending wasn’t standing next to the President because he needed a new pic for his photo album. The CoC is one of the Republican overlords and they are not in the mood to get screwed over again after the debt ceiling debacle.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:22 am

              Are we talking about the same congress who was ready to let the country default in order to destroy PBO? Why would they approve even one minor jobs bill when things goes so well for them and their terrorism is paying off?

              • September 2, 2011 at 10:54 am

                That would also be the same Congress who voted to exempt Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare (except on the provider side), retiree, military and low income programs from cuts. The same Congress that wanted to replay this whole manufactured drama 3 months later but voted to postpone it until 2013. The exact same one that voted for triggers that fall heavily on their side of the ledger.

                The bunch who after getting yelled at by their constituents just this week started making noises about passing the negotiated trade deals, patent reform and tax reform

                http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/08/different-perspective-on-gop-jobs-plan.html

                Yeah that same Congress in my opinion is going to pass a jobs bill. Not out of the goodness of their hearts but because their arm is about to get twisted something fierce like the President always does when they think they have him in a box.

                • 16 Tien Le
                  September 2, 2011 at 11:07 am

                  A-freakin’-men, Derbingle. Yours gets my vote for the best comment I’ve read in the past few days. Very well put.

                • 17 jacquelineoboomer
                  September 2, 2011 at 11:17 am

                  Bravo!

                • 20 Sue in Minnesota
                  September 2, 2011 at 11:50 am

                  Thank you. I am not willing to give power to the extortionists…not this time. And like every other major event….despite the hair pulling and the wobbling, the seepage of doom and gloom into our psyches….on the other side our President comes out the winner. We can’t change the obstacles in front of us, we have to accept them and design ways to move through them. Not around them, through them. I am going to stay out of the squabble here…..I can respect different opinions, I relate to the frustration and the angst, and even though I am white, I, as much as I honestly can, empathize with the pain that the disrespect, bigotry and hostility engenders in members of the African American community and beyond. I recognize it in all it’s hatred, and IMO moral weakness, and I know millions of Americans do as well. The shame is on us for for being so cowed and afraid of confronting it head on. I am sickened by it, and at the same time I marvel at the dignity, tenacity and perseverance you demonstrate in the face of it. You’re psyches are fare stronger than my own…I have a lot to learn from you and am grateful to be in your company.

                  I just can’t get on the roller coaster this time…..with respect to the upcoming joint session, I am going to put all my energy into my trust and faith in this remarkable human being that is our President. I am going to encourage everyone I know to watch his address, I am going to print out the charts that were posted yesterday and hand them out with the phone numbers of our elected officials, and a list of pressing issues that would benefit from them raising their voices NOW. I’ll tell them what I think of our MSM….which isn’t fit to be shared in polite company…and then I will wait for the event. I respect your debate….for me the speculation and the emotional machinations that I will no doubt put myself through, I believe will be all for not come 08Sep at 8pm edt.

                  And the one other thing I will do is donate to President Obama’s reelection campaign, over and above my monthly contribution. I believe in President Obama 110%, it’s time my actions start reflect ing with absolute symmetry my thoughts and feelings.

                  Yes.We.Can. Obama/Biden 2012

                  Namaste

                • 21 edp4bho
                  September 2, 2011 at 11:53 am

                  Amen, bravo, word……all three, and might I add, this makes a hell of a lot of sense. Thanks derbingle :-D

                • 22 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
                  September 2, 2011 at 12:48 pm

                  Spectacular rebuttle derbingle. We can not allow apathy and negativity to invade our souls. We need all of us supporters on the front lines from here on out to achieve what we want to achieve. You have made some excellent points in your post. Obama/Biden 2012!!!

                • 23 SAB
                  September 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm

                  That cheered me up. I hope you are right. I agree with everyone on this site, it is a tricky situation the Pres is in, but I for one have not the first clue as to what he could do, and I would never be presumptious as to suggest what he should do. All I knwo is what I can do, and that is try to inform people as much as I can about the situation he is in.

                • September 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm

                  Thank you, Derbingle, for articulating this point so calmly and with such good evidence. Thank you for re-affirming what we, despite our support of the President, sometimes forget – he has rarely done stuff the way we game them out, yet he continues to march forward. Not quite as flashily or spectacularly as we might wish, but progressing nonetheless. Your answer boosted my spirits, so thank you; I believe you are right.

          • September 2, 2011 at 8:13 pm

            He probably needs to change a few of his advisers too.

          • 26 57andFemale
            September 3, 2011 at 10:42 am

            I agree. Completely.

        • September 2, 2011 at 9:47 am

          So you miss the polls where Bush is blamed for the economy more than the President? Do you miss the polling that has support for Congress at 17%? Or the polling that 60%+ think the rich should be taxed more while all the Republican Presidential Candidates say tax the rich less, and gut social security and medicare?

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:06 am

            He is such a great president. I don’t want him to win just because people think he’s the lesser evil.

            • 29 jacquelineoboomer
              September 2, 2011 at 10:51 am

              I understand totally what you just wrote, and I weep inside thinking how under-appreciated his uniqueness is (unique doesn’t cut it – there just are no superlatives good enough to reach him). But with so much at stake, I’ll take any vote for him we can get.

              Before ’08, I had a friend from a military family who was hell-bent on voting for John McCain, until he brought Sarah Palin onto his ticket. She then immediately changed her vote to Barack Obama. She liked him, but he was the lesser of two evils for her.

              Also back in ’08, a family member who leans libertarian on anything but social issues was that close to voting for John McCain, but – and I think I heard angels in heaven sing after he pulled the lever – at the last minute, he voted for Barack Obama because he “wasn’t going to be the only a$$h–e in America not voting for our first black president.” I’m sure that wasn’t his only reason, but the one he gave didn’t identify the fact he thought Barack Obama was going to be a “great” leader.

              I’m just saying, people in this country (who vote) use their one vote for all kinds of reasons, and as long as we can attract them to our party, we’ll have to take that as step one. The history books will have a field day with the greatness of our current (two-term) President, and how much he accomplished without the support of the large percentage of dolts in this country who vote.

            • 30 Tien Le
              September 2, 2011 at 11:11 am

              I don’t care what reasons people give for voting for him, so long as they vote for him. Equally important is giving him a Congress he can work with, which I think the public is being primed to do.

            • 31 SAB
              September 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm

              You know what, I’ll take it. As long as he gets another four years, who cares. I’ve been voting for the lesser of two evils my whole adult life, this was the first time I voted FOR someonne and not just against the other one.

        • 32 hopefruit2
          September 2, 2011 at 9:52 am

          PBO’s numbers may have dropped but have you seen the corresponding figures for the Republicans in congress, Including John Boehner?

          Second of all, when I say I don’t believe the figures, it’s not the Labor Department’s report I don’t trust. Where does the labor department get their numbers from? The corporations, the States and companies doing the HIRING!! My point is that these numbers are being kept down because GOP state governors, corporations are deliberately keeping hiring to a minimum while laying off people. Meanwhile, the companies are sitting on mountains of cash waiting for the New Repblican President to be sworn in 2012.

          We the people need to let the corporations, Republican state governers, Republican congress and MSM that WE ARE ON TO THEIR BS and we won’t tolerate. I would imagine the media must be happy to log on to pro-Obama blogsites to see his supporters blaming him and telling him what he should and shouldn’t do while giving the real culprits a pass. Just remember, if Obama loses in 2012, he and his family will be just fine. It’s the ordinary people who will suffer. So we have as much if not bigger stake, in pushing back on the media, holding the Republicans accountable and demanding that they do the job of governing this country instead of trying to destroy it in order to take down President Obama.

          Again, you are reading something from the NYT and taking what they say as fact. The President hasn’t even spoken yet! He hasn’t even completed his speech yet – that’s what he’s going to Camp David to do. And that’s what I mean by propaganda. The MSM is delberately trying to depress the electorate by relentlessly attacking the President and undermining him. We are calling on PBO to be strong, yet we are weak-minded and allow ourselves to be easily manipulated by the media and Republicans. That has to stop.

          • 33 jacquelineoboomer
            September 2, 2011 at 10:42 am

            Thanks for taking the time to write that. I agree wholeheartedly.

          • September 2, 2011 at 11:47 am

            Now that, Hopefruit :

            “We are calling on PBO to be strong, yet we are weak-minded and allow ourselves to be easily manipulated by the media and Republicans. That has to stop”.

            Is the truest statement I have read ever.

          • 35 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            September 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm

            Excellent hopefruit. We are the change we have been waiting for. The President can’t do it all by himself. That is impossible.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:01 am

          It is naive to think that people just want to hear feel good bad ass talk when they are out of work. People may not want to hear about policy and they may not want to hear about obstruction but they sure as heck want results. So you tell me how talking tough is going to produce better jobs numbers. We need to do more than improve Obama’s job numbers.

        • 37 Debz
          September 2, 2011 at 10:01 am

          The president is not just “sitting back and taking hits” It’s not his job to respond to every bloody thing said about him.He is not naive. This is PL BS. Where are the Dems in Congress and the Talking heads fighting for him? And if the voters are really that stupid, then we deserve the republicans. PBO will be just fine he can take his family home and not have to put up with this crap anymore!

          • 38 auntydee
            September 2, 2011 at 11:07 am

            Debz,You are so right!. So what is happening here?.Today it seems that everyone is upset and angry with PBO.First comments were postive then the comments descended in to a DKO S like pie fight, PBO is fighting a lonely battle so I wonder how he feels when his most ardent supporters lose faith in him .
            Me, I will have faith that PBO knows what he is doing. Peace.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:13 am

          I agree that the majority of the public does not pay attention to the details and policy and that they are affected by the constant negative economic news and will tend to blame the president. But it is hard not to perceive a business/media/political coordinated effort to damage this president. There’s too much evidence slapping you in the face. The Repubs set out to destroy Obama, admittedly, and they ultimately succeeded in the ugliness of the prolonged debt ceiling crisis which resulted in the S&P downgrade. In addition to noticing an uptick in the power structure panic after bin Laden’s demise, the S&P downgrade is when I noticed the steady economic improvement coming to a halt. I have watched wave after wave of Obama bashers on all teevee stations—–blacks and CBC are disappointed in Obama, Hispanics no longer support Obama and even PUMA die-hards are now being paraded to say we would have been better off with Hillary. Every day the network news programs, such as the Today Show and the nightly news, feature another Repub candidate or spokesperson bashing Obama. It’s bound to affect the mood and his poll numbers. It’s either real lucky for the Repubs that all of the media is attempting to chip away at Dem constituencies, or it’s a planned effort. Corporations, and other entities, want to seize control again. I personally know of big companies which are making record profits, and instead of hiring which would be a normal consequence of that good news are actually laying off up to 1/3 of their workforces. It is increasingly difficult to not feel something is not quite kosher, to put it mildly. And it is real tough to combat the entire media/power structure in the U.S., especially when Dems who should be out supporting this president and his policies and fighting back are aiding the anti-Obama effort by jumping on their Obama-bashing bandwagon.

          • 40 Debz
            September 2, 2011 at 10:22 am

            Absolutely correct, Dotster. There is some coordinated effort to take down the President. I am really sorry to see people here who I believed to be strong supporters of the president falling for the anti-Obama BS, and blaming him and his staff for everything.

            • September 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm

              ‘sorry to see people here who I believed to be strong supporters of the president falling for the anti-Obama BS, and blaming him and his staff’

              THIS is why my spirits so appreciated Derbingle’s comments above. As Sue in M said, “I am going to put all my energy into my trust and faith in this remarkable human being that is our President. …and then I will wait for the event.”

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:25 am

            There’s a coordinated effort to damage this president, no doubt about it. I’ve never seen anything like this. But, there is very little fights back against this conspiracy. That is very very frustrating.

            • 43 Debz
              September 2, 2011 at 10:29 am

              I know you are frustrated BWD, but when the campaigning starts, PBO will be fighting back in his own way. The only way to fight the anti-Obama efforts is for us to be supporting the Prez. We are the only one who have his back and we have to make sure everyone gets out to vote.

            • 44 Tien Le
              September 2, 2011 at 11:16 am

              I don’t know about that, BWD (Hi, btw). Over 50% of the people who attended on of our President’s Birthday Party events last month were Republicans and former Republicans. They do NOT like their choices for President at all. Conspiracy or no, the American People will vote for the candidate with the most optimistic view of America. How many times have we seen people being interviewed after the President’s town halls who say they like his vision for the country? People like him and they like what he has to say.

              • 45 Sue in Minnesota
                September 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm

                This is awesome. The MSM paints a distorted picture, they refuse to bring context , clarity or balance into their narrative. To me it represents abuse of power. And yet we see alternate signs, we see the packed house for the Florida OFA office, the Sioux City Iowa event. We get pieces of information like Tien Le’s, to bring perspective, the actions being taken in state like Wisconsin or Michigan, we witness almost first hand all the activities of our President and his administrative team going directly to the people. We complete the portrait that the MSM does not want us to see.

                Many of us have circumvented the MSM, although we rely on those that bring bring references and replays here to stay aware, and to respond to. We need to keep it up and ramp it up, we can no longer rely on the MSM for accuracy or truth.

                • 46 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
                  September 2, 2011 at 1:27 pm

                  Exactly Sue. The MSM has become very corrupt. I hate to say this, but I have studied Nazi Germany for most of my adult life and I can say for a fact that Hitler’s Propoganda Minister Josef Goebels would give the American MSM a A+ for their lies, deceptions, and negative propoganda. It is what it is folks. We have to work through them and get the real and honest message out to the American People. KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!

                  • September 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm

                    Yes, I’ve known this since 2002 or before really. It was hard for me to comprehend because I just got into politics in 1999. But, that’s when I cancelled all corporate news from my life..November, 2002. And, I’ve been wishing ever since that there was a way to go around them because mediawhore$ are only getting more craven.

                    You know President Obama is totally aware of it..thank goodness for the internet.

  3. 49 overseasgranny
    September 2, 2011 at 9:04 am

    If anyone is talking to the President between now and Sunday am, the All-Ireland Hurling match is on for Sunday between Tipperary and Kilkenny. Moneygall is partly in Tipp and now that PBO has his own personal hurley, it is a game he should keep an eye on. Up Tipp!

    • 50 hopefruit2
      September 2, 2011 at 9:16 am

      I also heard that there is an annual “Tidy Town” competition and Moneygall is participating as well. The results will be announced on Monday.

    • 51 Sue in Minnesota
      September 2, 2011 at 12:46 pm

      Wish he’ld walk into the joint session with his ‘hurling stick’ (if that’s what it is called) That would give new meaning to the term ‘optics’. ;)would

      • 52 overseasgranny
        September 2, 2011 at 1:46 pm

        I hadn’t thought about him using his hurley around/on Congress. Yes, those would be terrific optics. :-) The game is Hurling and the stick is a hurley.

  4. September 2, 2011 at 9:15 am

    The point of the “jobs” speech is to shift the focus. I’m sure the president expects nothing from this Congress, but he’ll show he’s the one trying and then he will deliver it to the people, city by city, state by state. It will be our job to reinforce his jobs message in our own towns and with people we know. The Republicans have nothing to offer and their “save the millionaires” jobs proposals are a bad joke. As the president goes out on the road, tens of thousands of people will have an opportunity to compare and contrast. And, best of all, the president will be dealing with the local media, not the jackasses in the beltway.

  5. September 2, 2011 at 9:17 am

    The media will put the entire blame on the president, just as they had a party on his expense over that speech date. I’m very disappointed by PBO’s political advisers, they completely misread both the 2010 results and the length in which those Republicans terrorists are willing to go. I’m sorry to say that it is time to be less of an adult, to stop chasing the so-called independents – looking at the polls, voters are not giving PBO any credit for it – and start swinging. Otherwise, we’re not only going to lose one of the greatest presidents ever, but it’ll be the end of America.

    • September 2, 2011 at 9:22 am

      + 1,000,000,000

      Methinks it’s time to take the gloves off.

      Will be in touch very soon BWD, hope all’s good.

    • 60 bison
      September 2, 2011 at 9:26 am

      There is too much time spent on what people think the president is doing wrong instead of firing at the other side, which deserves the wrath. As the President, he should act in good faith even when dealing with rabid, lying, sociopaths on the other side. Let’s not forget that the GOP’s disrespect is just not happening to the President, but it is happening to all of us. It is personal and political.

      • 61 hopefruit2
        September 2, 2011 at 9:31 am

        I agree. I believe that it’s time for US the people to take the gloves off and start boycotting the MSM, or demanding that they start reporting the truth and stop being a mouthpiece for the corporations and GOP, otherwise we will start to expose them and what are they are doing to this President. We need to harrass the Repblicans in congress by calling, emailing, faxing and tweeting “where are the jobs?” on a daily basis. We need to pushback on any false information Spread on the news talk shows and call them out by name when they engage in this BS. We need to shame those congressional Democrats and cowardly black journalists/pundits who were silenced or ignored completely until 2009.

        • September 2, 2011 at 9:56 am

          I also think everybody here also needs to get involved in your local ground game. Join OFA and get active. One of the most important things you can do right now is register voters. When you start talking to people rather than just watching the idiots who get paid a lot of money to trash PBO and blather on TV, you get a different sense of what needs to be done and how to make a difference. I promise you, it will change your perspective. Get off the sidelines and get IN the fight.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:41 am

          YES, YOU ARE RIGHT…ITS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO NEED TO TAKE THE GLOVES OFF AT THE MEIDIA AND THE DO NOTHING CONGRESS…WHY IS EVERYTHING THROWN IN THIS PRESIDENTS LAP?????

          • 65 jacquelineoboomer
            September 2, 2011 at 11:02 am

            Yes, we criticize members of Congress who say things like, “When is President Obama going to tell us what kind of jobs plan he has,” when they themselves can write the legislation without waiting for his direction. Then, we Democrats add to it by saying, “When is President Obama going to take the gloves off against the Republicans,” and then some of us take our gloves off and “sit home” (as in 2010) so he doesn’t have the support he needs in Congress. There are three branches of government, not just “Daddy” in the White House.

            It just seems counter intuitive to me.

        • September 2, 2011 at 11:50 am

          Yep- it is WE who need to take the gloves off- go after the Repubs in Congress & the Media’s bias..and have our President’s back.

    • September 2, 2011 at 9:32 am

      No its not time to stop being an adult because that would mean acting like Republicans who continue to put politics over policy. Obama got the adult label because he recognizes our problems, has proposed solutions and is ready to enact them. Its not just about his staying above the fray. Which I still think he should do because there is no benefit to getting in the gutter w/Republicans. He was able to maintain his dignity during the 2008 general and he can do it again.

      • September 2, 2011 at 9:38 am

        Maybe so, but we will lose him. Since it’s pretty clear that he’ll have to run with 9% unemployment, it is time to make a clear difference between us and them – which mean, I’m sorry to say, do some of the stuff the PL is whining about. Nothing is more important than keeping him in the WH.

        • September 2, 2011 at 9:52 am

          What does the PL want that is achievable with this legislative mess? What can PBO to satisfy a group of people who were hating him as soon as the inauguration was over? I absolutely refuse to join the pile on PBO game so we have to know what it is that is possible and likely to succeed rather than the PL fantasy pie-in-the-sky demands. Because, honestly, I really don’t think they’re looking for success. Just look at Choi and Maddow.

        • September 2, 2011 at 9:55 am

          I do not agree. I don’t want Obama fighting over nonsense like the date of the speech. I don’t want him answering petty nonsense from Republicans. People have been hitting him personally and he should not take that route. Ever. And at some point all that rhetoric you guys want is going to wear off. People don’t want to hear just talk for the next 13 months. They want results as well and his team knows that. They’ve been circulating a talking point that Obama plans on doing this w/o Congress. So he knows that along with a BIG BOLD speech, he’s going to come back home with something. Obama can talk up his poll numbers but he can’t talk down the unemployment numbers.

          And do what the PL wants? He should talk to Alan Grayson about how that worked out.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:01 am

            THIS. I think people as Jay so pointed schooled the press about yesterday, people don’t care about the optics. They want results. They want to see progress. More back and forth, more he said/she said, more hysterical TV drama queens on either side, is not going to make a difference in the long run. It’s not about feel good tactics. It’s about jobs and security.

            I’m not fooling myself that the press will EVER be on PBO’s side. That’s why we need a tool and resources that give us PBO’s accomplishments and values contrasted with the same for the GOP. That will tell the story.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:05 am

              Exactly. People keep saying they want a fighter. Yeah, because in their minds a fighter WINS. Obama needs to produce jobs. The rhetoric is the icing on the cake.

              • 73 utaustinliberal
                September 2, 2011 at 10:23 am

                Absoluetly correct gobrooklyn. If all President Obama does is behave like one of the PL darlings; Sanders, Grayson and co, how does that help the average American? The average American wants results. They don’t want posturing, hand wringing and flaming rhetoric after flaming rhetoric. They want more of what President Obama is doing: directing his administration to look for infrastructure porgrams that can be expedited and can provide jobs. They want what the stimulus program did; saved and created close to 3 million jobs. The time for campaigning will come and it will come soon enough and you bet President Obama will be fierce and will go toe to toe with every single one of his opponents. But for now, he has to govern and he cannot respond to every nonsense leveled at him by political amateurs.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:30 am

              They *do* care about the optics. They spend 15 minutes a day on the news, if they hear that Boner basically rejected PBO’s request and forced him to pick the day that the Orange-man wants, then the president look weak to them. He’s been called “weak” by the NYT today. We know that he’s probably the strongest president we had in decades, but that’s not his image out there. Sadly, image matters. If this were his second term, I’d say f*** them all. But it’s not, and I can’t think of the possibility that he won’t have another one.

              • 75 Tien Le
                September 2, 2011 at 11:22 am

                Yes, people do care about optics, but the press doesn’t get to decide what is an optic that the public will respond to, nor are they the arbiters of what that response will be. The public cares more about the optic of the President at FEMA and Governors on camera saying they’re getting what they need after Irene than this nonsense about the date for the speech. That little bru-ha-ha was a publicity stunt of the highest order. Now way more people know about the speech and are more likely to tune in. The President being dissed isn’t what is going to stick with them. That the President is giving a speech about jobs will.

          • 76 jacquelineoboomer
            September 2, 2011 at 11:04 am

            THIS X2.

          • 77 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            September 2, 2011 at 1:42 pm

            Excellent gobrooklyn. It is obvious now to everyone why BWD has suspended her website. It doesn’t take rocket science. I’m with PBO for the long HAUL. At times I want him to be more aggressive as well. It is obvious that he and his administration has weighed all options. They really believe that taking the non confronational rout and just working on solutions instead of public tatrums is the way to go. I will follow that recipe even if I am skeptical at times. PBO is only thing we have standing between a free society vs a FASCIST society. The American People better wake up.

          • September 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm

            I agree with you, glbrooklyn, and have stated it all over the place. I think September 8 is a much better date for his JOBS speech and the boehners will be sorry they messed with the schedule.

            The republicon lying points will be on Wednesday night and then along comes President Obama on Thursday night right before the Opening season of NFL talking about JOBS which is exponentially more important than silly Bart Simpson games.

            PBO is moving chess pieces and the repubs are playing oppossum.

        • 79 hopefruit2
          September 2, 2011 at 9:56 am

          I definitely feel your frustration BWD. But the question remains, who will suffer if we lose him? Is it President Obama? I don’t think so. It’s the American people who right now should make it their business to hold the Republicans in congress and the media accountable. The same NYT that someone quoted above helped GWB lie to the electorate to start an illegal war which cost the economy trillions of dollars and cost thousands of families their loved ones. How long are we as responsible citizens going to allow the media to govern illegally and lead this country off a cliff on behalf of the Republican Party?

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:01 am

            Oh, sure, he will be fine, probably even happier, he’ll travel the world and get the love he deserves. It’s we, the people, who will stay here with Perry. And then all those idiots will be surprised when their social security is gone.

            I agree that it’s time for the citizens to stand up, but, I’m sorry to say, it’s time for PBO to adjust, because he’s our only hope.

            • 81 jacquelineoboomer
              September 2, 2011 at 11:14 am

              Yes, but, :)

              if he’s our only hope,

              that’s way too much to put on him.

              All we can do is to do OUR jobs, which is to attack the Republicans and the media and to encourage the Democrats, day in and day out, vote in all elections, make calls, register others, donate, chat up his merits everywhere we go. None of this is a sure thing. But I’ll be damned if I’m not going to give it MY best shot from now until election day 2012. President Obama is giving it all he’s got, and my meager, individual efforts are the only way I know how to “repay” him.

            • 82 mb32
              September 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm

              IMO he’s in the process of adjusting right now. Since he told Cantor he was going to take it to the American ppl he has been taking it to the ppl asking them to get involved etc. He’s signaled that he’s going to call Congress out. If they reject his jobs plan watch the call out build. PBO’s timing is generally pretty good even if it doesn’t always make sense. He’s setting it up so he can run against Congress. When he gets going its not going to be pretty for Boehner-remember when he took on house Repubs in ’09? but Boehner have the MSM carrying his water. PBO will start swinging soon…in his own way and style…

              Chips maybe you could post clips of PBO at that House Repub retreat? I think it would build spirits and remind us that PBO knows how to fight

          • 83 Leigh
            September 2, 2011 at 10:26 am

            We as voters need POTUS as much as he needs us. I need him to protect my rights as women and as an American, while he needs us to achieve his goal of getting reelected.

        • 85 Debz
          September 2, 2011 at 10:09 am

          What would doing what the PL want accomplish? The President is who he is, and he shouldn’t try to change to impress a group of loudmouths. This is who we voted for, if anyone wanted someone who scream and pounds podiums we should have voted for Ed Shultz.

        • 86 prettyfoot58
          September 2, 2011 at 6:18 pm

          WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO DO…

    • 87 halo
      September 2, 2011 at 9:38 am

      AMEN, BWD!!!

      WE SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT! BUT HE NEEDS TO TAKE THE GLOVES OFF!! People clearly aren’t giving him credit for ANYTHING, even as they voted for GOP Teabagger terrorists. Stop playing Mr. Nice Guy. Independents don’t care about “nice.” They care about EFFECTIVENESS. They care about standing up to bullies. They care about HEART.

    • 88 Leigh
      September 2, 2011 at 9:39 am

      It feels good to see another person, that finally admits POTUS’ advisors are messing up. The West Wing and POTUS did misread the 2010 results, which is why I was really upset with his gloomy speech he gave after the midterm election.

    • September 2, 2011 at 9:42 am

      Could you please be more specific about what exactly you think PBO should do? This “take the gloves off “stuff doesn’t mean much without specifics given all the dynamics in play. Blaming his advisors when the facts point to a paralyzed Congress, hatred coming from the left, right and MSM and a stupified TV watching nation, doesn’t really illuminate the solution. I’d really like to hear people who think this say something concrete so we as supporters of PBO can help get the show on the road.

      • 94 Leigh
        September 2, 2011 at 9:47 am

        What he needs to do is lay out the differences between him and the Republicans. on the economy He needs to highlight the amount of jobs that Republicans have cut, and the amout of jobs bills Republicans have stopped. Also, I personally feel that he needs to take a step back from blaming Republians and Democrats for the economy, and call out simply the Republicans, because they are the ones that are stopping jobs bills. Dems have their flaws, but they are not delibaretly trying to sabatoge the economy. His and his advisors misread the 2010 results, because he said that the result meant Americans wanted split government, when the results showed that many Americans simply did not even vote, and yes I voted.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:35 am

          Yep. Just throw the bipartisanship nonsense out of the window. There’s only one bad side here. Time to say it out loud. It’s not like “independents” gives him credit for being bipartisan.

          • 96 Tien Le
            September 2, 2011 at 11:26 am

            Actually they do give him credit for being bipartisan…that’s what they look for in a politician. I think what they are learning is that it isn’t enough to say you’re bipartisan, you have to actually be bipartisan. President Obama provides the only tangible role model for what being bipartisan looks like. Independents have a reference point to use to compare the politicians who are not behaving as he is. This will pay off, I’m certain of it.

          • 97 nospin
            September 2, 2011 at 11:36 am

            he gets credit from folks like me who are focused on solution and I don’t care which party provides it if it helps the people.

            So bipartisanship is key.

      • 98 halo
        September 2, 2011 at 9:52 am

        How about playing HARDBALL politics? How about explicitly saying the Teabaggers are holding everything hostage? Eduacating the people. Making lists of every teabagger who went aroudn waving checks of stimulus money. Or as Chris Matthews said, makgins lists of every undercode bridge airport and railway in GOP districts and going there and saying, “Your guy doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you.” Or having a BIG jobs plan and daring GOP to block it and when thye do, going aroudn the country saying they’re blocking YOUR future.

        Sitting there like a Zenmaster, trying to project calm when there is urgency in the face of extortionists, may feel strong to him, but to everyone else th eperception is that he is jus tnot in touch with what is going on.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:28 am

          If you think PBO is playing “Zenmaster” you haven’t been paying attention.

        • September 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm

          My only addition here is that I have NEVER gotten the sense that PBO is ‘playing’ a role as President, or that his calm, measured approach is something he is ‘trying to project’. I do not believe governance is a game to him. IMO the democrats in the House and Senate, etc should be the ones going to their constituents and pointing out the fact that in reality the GOP doesn’t care about them. Since they are not using their time in office in support of the President that should be the least the party could demand from them!

      • September 2, 2011 at 9:57 am

        1. That jobs speech: Go big, go huge, make a lot of noise, cut the bipartisanship crap.
        2. Have a press conference to talk about what these terrorists do to his nominees, not even giving them hearings.
        3. Take a pen and start signing any executive order that you can.
        4. Use that “bully pulpit” (Yea, I know…), be on TV much more and on prime time..
        5. Stop making concessions that might be indeed very small (what is a day difference for a speech) but looks just terrible.

        I do blame his advisers for drawing the wrong conclusion from 2010. They should have never fall into the deficit trap. No one cares about the deficit, no one, especially not Republicans. The only one who do care is PBO, and he should have not touch it now. Jobe, jobs, jobs, that’s the only thing they should have talked about.

        It’s not too late, but we need a game changer, even if just political theater.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:10 am

          BWD, you know I love you and I deeply understand your frustration. But maybe PBO isn’t who you think he is. HE is pragmatic to the core. You heard Jay say yesterday, PBO spent ZERO time thinking or talking about this schedule flap. ZERO. He just doesn’t care about it. At all. So I don’t see how you’re not going to be continually frustrated with him because he doesn’t operate in that zone. It’s not who he is. All he cares about is getting his goals achieved. He’s not a process junkie; he wants results and the path to those results doesn’t always take precedence over the end goal. And no amount of shaming him about his toughness or questions about his manliness are effective, as we’ve seen the chorus of PL rise to a level of hysteria over and over and over again. And even if he were to use that bully pulpit, at some point, the right-wing and the MSM will just say he’s whining. You know that will happen and you know it’s just waiting in the wings to be the next meme. So I’m just not convinced that this approach is all that possible given what we know. If you think that means his defeat, then I just don’t know what to say except that it saddens me deeply to see you give up.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:43 am

            I know who he is. I also know who the voters are, we saw what they’ve done in 2010, And I know the disaster we’ll face without him. My problem is not with who he is – I love him today probably more than ever, he’s just an astonishing human being – my problem is that neither him or his people recognize that we face a very very dangerous situation and that adjustments must be made.

            I don’t give up, but I’m extremely worried. Extremely.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:49 am

              I have to say it’s pretty infantilizing to hear this “PBO and his advisors” don’t know what they’re facing stuff. REALLY? You really believe that? You really think they don’t what exactly who these people are and what they’re doing and how they’re doing it? You disagree about their tactics but surely you don’t really believe that they don’t fully understand these obstacles. Because that is assuming a very insulting level of negligence.

              • September 2, 2011 at 10:58 am

                I’m sure they understand, I just think they’re wrong.

                Why do we need this now? Why?

                NYT: Obama Pulls Back Proposal to Tighten Clean Air Rules

                • 106 halo
                  September 2, 2011 at 4:12 pm

                  Their messaging team is horrible if that is true. The excuse they give is also laughable. What is going on over there?

                  • 107 Left-Indie
                    September 2, 2011 at 5:45 pm

                    I must say it’s rather sad to see BWD of all people go hard on this. I remember when she would shoot down people who suggested he change this or that. Most of the suggested changes BWD and Halo are saying are right. For me, it’s when PBO says “congress” won’t do this or that thing. No, it’s not Nancy pelosi or Steve Israel…it’s those goddamn teaparty thugs. Say so, every time. Please.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:53 am

              The 2010 mid-terms are NOT an indication of who the voters are for the general election. Completely different set of dynamics and forces in play. When you work the ground game, you see the difference.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:52 am

            One more thing: There must be a limit even to pragmatism, especially when this pragmatism starts hurting you.

            • September 2, 2011 at 10:57 am

              The campaign season has not begun. We don’t have any inside knowledge of how the campaign will unfold as PBO wishes. I hope you have faith in how this will play out and will continue to help us with your enormous fighting spirit. I know you’ve taken a break and I fully understand why. But we are going to need voices that are unequivocal once we know who the nominee is. This will be the mother of all fights.

              • September 2, 2011 at 11:15 am

                Very busy this morning, but just had a chance to scroll through. My “two cents” leans more with BWD and the others who are saying it’s time to “take off the gloves”. The people do want to see RESULTS and EFFECTIVENESS. I think when independents, many Dems and even the sane Republicans continue to see the “no drama Obama” their PERCEPTION is that he isn’t leading and isn’t even trying to change things. BWD is right–large majority of population sees or hears 10-15 minutes of “news” or sound-bites or talking points and that’s how they come to their conclusion. Most don’t follow things closely like we do. I agree that his advisers are giving some not so good advice right now. Remember, PERCEPTION is VERY important. Facts matter to us, but to the majority of people, it’s the PERCEPTION that matters most. I also agree that he needs to stop with “both parties” or “it’s time for Democrats and Republicans to do such and so”……he must come out and call a spade a spade. (He can deal with the Dems behind closed doors. :) ) Now, having said all this, PO must (and believe me, he knows this!) be careful to never come across as the ‘angry black man.’ We can all imagine that loop running 24/7 on every network and right-wing radio. But, since he knows this, I do believe he is intelligent enough to figure out how to have that balance of “taking off the gloves” and showing his anger or “fight”. He just needs to do it and do it SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • September 2, 2011 at 11:05 am

            I do think though that this stupid speech scheduling fiasco brought many peoples’ frustration to the fore. Initially everyone was so happy that it looked like President Obama had decided to play a little hardball politics, a little back in your face move which everyone was ready for by asking for the night of the Repub debate. And when that fizzled out, and I guess according to protocol it was bound to, especially with the Repubs playing dirty as usual, it was a big letdown. And I don’t know how you realistically spin that Th. is “fine” and just as good as Wed. when the timing has to be before 1/2 to 2/3 of the population even get home from work. And sorry, the only people who will record it are those who were going to vote for Obama anyway. There’s a lot of frustration with all the media seemingly geared up against Obama, the constant bad economic news, and people naturally want something to change, they want to see a backlash, they want this admin. to scream from the rooftops about what has been going on. And it sadly always comes down to Obama or nobody. Many of his supporters who could be greatly helping in this regard are pushing themselves onto tv appearances to bash Obama instead of pointing fingers at the Repub obstructionists and the real culprits, those who are responsible for everything coming to a standstill.

        • 113 halo
          September 2, 2011 at 10:13 am

          Excalty, voters don’t care about the deficit. They probably don’t even know the difference between deficits and debt. They probalby don’t even know WHO racked up all that debt. All they know is that 9% unemployment is bad and people they know or themselves are out of work. ANd if it stays that way, unless they nominate Michelle Bachman or Obama goes BIG on his jobs speech spelling out exactly what he’s going to do fo rhte American people, it’s going to be a super close election which means we probably lose the Senate, if not the WH.

        • September 2, 2011 at 10:16 am

          The people want jobs, jobs, jobs, but you offered no ideas on how to get there. Executive orders can only do so much. It certainly won’t produce jobs every month at the level we need them to be. And no concessions no matter how small and no bipartisanship? how does that produce jobs? Both parties not budging on anything is not going to produce jobs.

          • 115 Leigh
            September 2, 2011 at 10:44 am

            You are absoulutely correct Americans want jobs, but whose getting hammered by many in this country for those jobs not being created, President Obama. Playing nice with Republicans is fine, but at the same time it’s critical for not only voters, but President Obama himself to inform voters one of the reasons jobs are not being created. We are all aware that a jobs bill likely will not happen at the moment, but in the meantime not calling out the Republicans on their obsturction is not beneficial to his reelection.

            • 116 Sue in Minnesota
              September 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm

              But he has been. At least to my ears. But you can not rely on the MSM to place that fact front and center. And when he does speak with force they will label him angry and partisan…think back to the speech on the Ryan Budget proposal for a case in point.

              I see something different than you do, clearly,,,,,,are we looking in the same direction? I have been paying attention to the President and his adminstration, first…that’s how I came to realize that our MSM is failing us, and perhaps with intention, delivering propoganda.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:47 am

            I don’t have ideas to create jobs. It’s not my profession and I’m not an economist or the president. We’re in real bad shape if *i* need to come up with ideas for jobs….

        • 119 auntydee
          September 2, 2011 at 10:37 am

          The job numbers are going to go up because there will be plenty of worked need to be done in the states hit hardest by Irene.Lots of roads and bridges to be repaired and built.Some folks willing to relocate will do so for the construction jobs.Things will look better when the money is alloted to the states. PBOand his advisors knew he would get blowback for “caving”, So PBO must have a plan other wise why did he not blink when he agreed to the change of the date and time of the speech ?.

          • September 2, 2011 at 10:41 am

            Which is why Cantor and the GOP is digging in on off-sets – they don’t want there to be any potential “stimulus” effect from storm clean-up and rebuild. This is how dastardly they have become in killing the economy.

        • 121 elo4obama/biden
          September 2, 2011 at 10:58 am

          1.Go big, go huge. NO go for results I do’nt want 15 months of no results. Sounds like you’re advocating somthing like what the house did with their deficit bill. BSwith no chance of passing and wasting time
          2 Yes expose but do not whine.
          3 Already started with asking allgencies to work on identifyig jobs and reforming no child left behind as much as possible witot legislative chang
          4 I’ve never seen apresident on TV so much. Where are the senatendhouse leaders. When not bashing PBO that is.
          5.Uh y understanding isitwasfine with house leader initially then was not. Formality to ask and have request granted. Not worth it to get in a p…sng contest.
          Actually I think he avoided the deficit trap. The trap would have been the prez refusing to even discuss cuts. Logically we have waste and programs that need a trim. My understanding is the deal of cuts were backended and sensible. This prez always advocated cuts to pay for investments-infrastructure,education etc. If memory serves before the big crash it was 1.3trillion (2008, while registering voters)

          This is the theater. Public support is strong for raising the top 2%taxes.SS and medicare andRepgs non interest in job creation, besides more of the same exposed! . His numbers are lower BUT not low compared to others at this time. Look at the republican numbers! It’s exhausting but buck up and try to keep your head when others about you are loosing theirs.

        • 122 Tien Le
          September 2, 2011 at 11:40 am

          That deficit trap you’re talking about was unavoidable. There was no way around it. The Republican strategy for the last 40 years has been to spend like sailors while in office then be deficit hawks when the Democrats are in office. I personally think he handled the deficit masterfully. He knew he was going to take a hit in the polls, pay a political price for doing what was right. He’s never worried about that. In the end, he got as much as was humanly possible to get: ceiling raised until 2013…entitlements off the table. He knew this was coming and while paying a temporary price in the polls, he effectively neutered the Republican strategy of being deficit hawks. Meanwhile he used the whole thing to his advantage by exposing how extreme the Republicans are now.

          I’m sorry, BWD, I am NOT willing to lay this at the feet of his advisers. The Republicans were going to do this because that’s their M.O. He saw the train coming and pried up the tracks so it wouldn’t mow down the Country. If he expended some goodwill in the effort, so be it. But blaming him and his advisers for making things bad enough to activate your panic button doesn’t seem reasonable to me. It’s your panic button, he can’t moderate his behavior to save you from your own self-imposed anxiety.

          • 123 RinaX
            September 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm

            Thank you. I’m sorry, what people are whining, and yes I say whining about is winning the media. All of this bullshit about his advisors not knowing what they’re doing, crap. MSNBC, CNN, etc., they have zero interest in presenting the facts as they are, and what I’m ultimately seeing is that you all are pissed that President Obama can’t make them be fair. That’s what all this stupid shit boils down to about optics, etc. They don’t give a shit, fucking accept it, and do the gruntwork on the ground that many of us have been doing because that’s where the difference is going to be made.

          • 125 Chi
            September 4, 2011 at 5:31 pm

            “…It’s your panic button, he can’t moderate his behavior to save you from your own self-imposed anxiety…”

            That just about sums it up Tien…

            The inconsistent and contradictory directives and actions demanded of and projected upon President Obama by some of his supporters actually expose *their* own questionable and shakeable cores…

            One can’t claim to think President Obama is ‘astonishing’ in his abilities and in the same breath cast him as naive and misguided…

            Questioning and savaging his most fundamental skill sets not just as President but as an accomplished adult…intuition, foresight, judgement, discernment, vision, political savvy…

            Sometimes it’s incredibly clear indeed that with some of the supporters President Obama attracts, he needs absolutely no enemies…

            The demand that President Obama respond to and play from the worn-out GOP playbook, evidently betrays the most gobsmacking fact: that some of his supporters really do not know the man they supported or remember how he campaigned and how he won…

            Barack Obama never subscribed to politics, campaigning and governing as usual and is working from his very own playbook and by his own rules…

            I always assumed that those of us who supported him understood and appreciated that and *that* was what was incredibly distinct, refreshing and unique about him…

            If I wanted politics and governing as usual and in the manner the media, others and some here advocate, I would have picked any of the other candidates…

            I stand with President Obama because he continues to be and operate exactly as he promised…

    • 126 57andFemale
      September 3, 2011 at 11:07 am

      I completely agree.

  6. 127 Fred
    September 2, 2011 at 9:20 am

    is he kidding me or what? :shock: :roll:

    someone;anyone please send Lieberman that ingrate a tweet and tell him to fuck off for me please

    Lieberman: Obama’s concern with offending Muslims is hurting the war effort

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/179239-lieberman-obama-shies-from-naming-terrorists-as-islamist-

    • 128 Tien Le
      September 2, 2011 at 11:42 am

      Why is that even surprising to you? Lieberman has always been like this. Plus he has zero to lose since he’s retiring.

  7. 129 Fred
    September 2, 2011 at 9:22 am

    can someone please send this to the President’s people so that they are ready for an answer

    Report: Palin speech to offer “full throated defense of the Tea Party”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/179319-palin-speech-said-to-be-qdefense-of-the-tea-partyq

  8. 133 hopefruit2
    September 2, 2011 at 9:22 am

    The Republicans, PL, CBC and everyone else knows fully well that they have done nothing to help the jobs situation – in fact they totally sat back while GWB ruined the economy. Then when PBO cautioned folks to not vote the Teabaggers into congress, the media convinced them otherwise. Since the Repubs took over the house, not a single job has been created. The corporations are not hiring ordinary workers – instead they are hiring over-paid paid political “pundits” to spread anti-Obama propaganda 24/7.

    It’s time we hold the media accountable. I’m going to ask everyone of these media pundits “what’s your annual salary” and what are your qualifications, skills and experience that justify that salary? In your daily work, what do you do that contributes to the well being, financial, social and moral integrity of this society? P.S. Spreading anti-Obama propaganda and reporting nonstop on polls is NOT considered contributing to society.

    • 134 utaustinliberal
      September 2, 2011 at 9:59 am

      Good point hopefruit2. President Obama warned all Americans about this. DO NOT GIVE THE GOP THE KEYS BACK. THEY WILL DRIVE THE EONOMY BACK INTO THE DITCH. People sat down and listened to moronic pundits who get paid millions to give opinions that a baby could discredit in the blink of an eye with simple facts. Now we have teabaggers in congress who are relishing the thought of driving the economy to the brink of disaster, a vulture like media culture that is feeding the manic frenzy, and GOP run corporations that are sitting on over $2 trillion worth of money that they can use to hire workers, make investments in the economy and create jobs but instead they’re suspiciously doing nothing. They’re instead with the help of the GOP media spreading the message that it is because of President Obama’s regulatory policies that they’re frozen solid and not doing anything. It is all a concerted effort to make this administration look incompetent. When the democrats were in control; they worked with President Obama to create close to 3 million jobs, put financial regulation in place, wall street reform, credit card reform, cash for clunkers, saved the automobile industry, saved the banking industry, extended unemployment benefits, put a payroll tax cut in place so that middle and working class Americans could have extra cash in their pockets and on and on. Yet everyday they were hounded by the media over every progress they made as though it was a bad thing. Now the republicans have controlled the house for 9 months and NO JOB CREATION. Zip, zilch, nada, zero. NOTHING. Is the media holding them accountable? No. Is the media hounding them? No. Is the media pointing out their gross ineptness? No. Is the media pointing out their gorss incompetence? No.

      After Labor day the quote unquote political season officially begins. I cannot wait for the President to give his jobs speech and begin his travels to the West Coast, Detroit and other cities to sell his plan. The gloves are certainly going to be off President Obama style. He won’t yell or scream or act crazy like the media wants so they can get their 30 second soundbite and run with it; but he’ll be ready. Oh yes he will and it is also up to us to make sure that more and more people hear his message through email, facebook, twitter and other means of communication.

    • September 2, 2011 at 10:19 am

      I was just scratching my head the other day realizing that absolute total idiots like Erik Erickson, Jane Hamsher and so many others are bloviating on TV, why exactly? They’re considered experts on the economy and foreign policy and health care because they have blogs? It’s just beyond ludricrous.

      • 139 RinaX
        September 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm

        Not to go off on you, but at what point will we acknowledge that the media is just…gone. Other than the evening news casts, it’s just not there. Other Democratic officials have been more less cowards since inauguration day and they’ve sat back time and time again over the past three years and refused to defend this President or echo the message that he’s been tirelessly spreading pretty much on his own, and yet all I hear from people like BWD that it’s his fault that the media won’t be fair and that we have a congress full of cowards.

  9. 142 anniebella
    September 2, 2011 at 9:30 am

    The T-Republicans and their fans know what they are doing. The companies are not hiring because they support the T-Republicans, As long as they do nothing and unemployment stays high, they feel it will hurt the President. But the President will not be the only one blame here. Boehner and his do nothing House will get the blame also. At least the President is trying to do something, the T-Republicans aren’t doing a darn thing, and neither are the companies who is sitting on two trillion dollars, but they refuse to hire anyone. I’m sick and tired of all the excuses from the business community.

  10. September 2, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Dems need to start making the case that the GOP is in full sabotage mode. If they all profess to want less government than what better way to get elected and then try to destroy it from the inside by grinding everything to a halt? They get elected, do nothing, people get jaded by the whole system and don’t vote, but ALEC and Koch’s spend silly money to turn our their vote to elect more folks out to destroy the government and get more anti-government folks embedded.

    • 146 hopefruit2
      September 2, 2011 at 10:02 am

      And keep in mind that some Democrats in congress are being bribed by lobbyists to not rock the boat and instead attack the President, so we need to keep the pressure on these Democrats as well and remind them of what they went to congress for. All these manufactured crises and not hiring are attempts to depress the Democratic electorate to ensure a Hunstman or Romney or even Perry as President in 2012.

    • 147 RinaX
      September 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm

      That would actually require the majority of them to grow the spine that they accuse President Obama of not having. You can count on one hand the number of Dems who consistently have his back.

  11. 149 jacquelineoboomer
    September 2, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Without even reading any of this, I have a question. How can the “GOP” (a political party) use a “.gov” website to host their crime wave?

  12. 150 hgerhard
    September 2, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Hello everyone – are we all going off the deep end today about a jobs report with a known undercount of 45,000 job? Yes, there are massive losses in local government, construction and less in manufacuring – still adding to a net gain of 17,000 in the private sector. We all know why the recovery is stalling. Elections have consequences. Putting the Tea Party in the driver’s seat has been a huge disaster. But, please, everybody – let’s not join the chorus of the ignorant by making unreasonable demands on the one person who has consistently pursued the right agenda – our President. I know why I voted for Barack Obama, and a lot of it has to do with who he is and what he believes. I am glad that he is refusing to turn into a snarling attack machine. I, too, still believe in the value of bipartisanship. It’s not bipartisanship that is the problem right now, it is excessive partisanship on the part of the President’s opponents. And there is a deficit problem – much as it is incovenient in our present jobs crisis – a problem that needs to be addressed. President Obama is too honest and too conscientious to simply sweep it under the rug. What he is trying to do is to correct the imbalances in a sensitive way to avoid hardship for anyone while simultaneously doing everything possible to grow the economy. Economic growth is the best social program and the best fiscal program. What is needed is to damp down the hysterics, be honest with each other, and start working together. Now, I realize that the Republicans are not willing to cooperate. That’s where we come in. Instead of just complaining about how the President is too nice and should become less so, we need to take our role as citizens much more seriously. It’s totally up to us to get the word out to our fellow citizens – and BTW I don’t agree that the American people are incapable of understanding the basics of our economics or our politics. I, for one, will listen to what the President has to say and I will spread the word to as many people as I can reach. I am not asking them to vote for anyone, I am asking them to make informed choices. I am confident that people will decide in favor of what makes sense. There is no poll that will change my pespective about what needs to be done and what will ultimately happen.

    • September 2, 2011 at 11:06 am

      THANKS so much for expressing how I feel.

      I think a lot of people are also doing the usual “he should do this and say that” stuff that always happens before a major speech of such importance. People are projecting their needs and of course their fears. It’s a very tense situation and we are shifting into a new season and they want the best outcome.

      I love what you said about listening and making informed choices. That is exactly the job we do as volunteers in all our phonebanking and outreach.

      I think one of the reasons PBO focused on the deficit is because he is a fiscally conscious, pay-as-you-go person. The last thing he wants is to leave office with a huge deficit that will hurt Democrats. It will take years to work this down and he believed it had to start now. Whether or not anybody agrees with his messaging, I think that’s how he sees it.

      I believe in this great man and I’m going to do everything in my power to carry his message and help him win his re-election. I could not in all good conscience do otherwise. He needs everyone to join the fight.

    • 152 Tien Le
      September 2, 2011 at 11:55 am

      Free day in Heaven for you hgerhard!

  13. 154 Fred
    September 2, 2011 at 10:39 am

    where are the damn jobs King? It’s one thing to procreate but it’s another thing to take care of the damn children once they are born you fuckwit

    King Accuses Planned Parenthood Of ‘Breaking Federal Law,’ Floats Idea Of Defunding Hospitals That Provide Abortions

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/09/02/302615/king-accuses-planned-parenthood-of-breaking-federal-law-floats-idea-of-defunding-hospitals-that-provide-abortions/

    Former Boehner Staffer Suggests Rick Perry Would Be Happier With the Confederate Constitution

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/02/310464/rick-perry-confederate-constitution/

  14. 155 Janelle
    September 2, 2011 at 10:57 am

    I have to say this is a very negative thread with comments building on the negativity. The economic issues are real of course and important but I guess after going through the primaries, general election and then the many crises since that this administration has had to face, I just refuse to get too high or too low. The President is not a dumb man and is not naive. His advisers are not dumb or naive. You build your momentum when people are paying attention. As was mentioned before, elections have consequences. The electorate has to make the right decision. The President will give primetime addresses but he can’t do them very often or it will lose it’s effect, folks will get jittery and markets will plummet. If after campaigning and the Joint Session, SOTU and other press conferences are given, we vote against are own interests, there is no one to blame but us. I refuse to do lose hope. I’m not built that way. But I understand the frustration of wanting things to be better, the Democrats not having his back, the racism, etc. This is where Obama supporters really have to be inwardly tougher than our opponents. We don’t have the media, radio, print behind us…..we have our ability to get in the ground game with OFA and our votes. Do not expect validation from the press or TV or most blogs. It didn’t happen prior to 2008 and it won’t happen before 2012. I’ve accepted that. But I will not give up.

    • 156 Me4obama
      September 2, 2011 at 11:01 am

      Amen. I can’t wait for the new thread because am refraining myself so bad am about to burst with anger.

    • 157 Debz
      September 2, 2011 at 11:13 am

      I am angry and we need a new thread. There seems to be an agitator or 2 here Bill Maher? really? We are the only people who have the President’s back. We don’t need any one pushing the negative.

      • 158 Chi
        September 4, 2011 at 5:48 pm

        You know Debz, the fact that people have effusively supported President Obama in the past does not necessarily mean that they know better or that their negative and cleary misguided utterances and comments about President Obama and the administration ought to be considered, given credence or even respected…

        Like you, I’m so irritated and disgusted about the contamination with demoralizing rubbish, of this blog where President Obama’s supporters seek refuge from the endless assault out there…

    • September 2, 2011 at 11:18 am

      Absolutely agreed, Janelle. This is the time to get tough and support him, not add to the negative spin. People are being played big time by the media. I don’t watch that crap but it’s all I hear. It’s like a screeching siren blaring all day. There are days when I just can’t bear the hand-wringing that these idiots cause our population because that is exactly what the right-wing and the MSM want. Keep us all frustrated and passive and hopeless. You are not going to get informed or be given objective information or fresh ideas from TV punditry. Even if it starts out with so-called left-leaning pundits, they will somehow disappoint you sooner or later because that is how the system is designed. They are obligated to give equal time to the nuttiest right-wingers and so they will continue to promulgate this distorted view day after day after day because that is how it works. I will never give up on PBO. Never.

    • September 2, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      Having plodded my way through this thread, I’m not sure at this point that I’ll term it a completely negative one. I did at first. At this point I actually see it as some supporters being ‘open’ and ‘comfortable’ enough to share their fears, or maybe just plain frustrated enough. I agree with you, Janelle, that …
      ‘This is where Obama supporters really have to be inwardly tougher than our opponents. We don’t have the media, radio, print behind us…..we have our ability to get in the ground game with OFA and our votes’. And we have each other. I am thinking now, after having read most of the thread, that this (meaning the site) is also where we can reach out for a shoulder to lean on, or a hand to hold on to. Being humans of different temperaments and inner strength, there are going to be many, many moments over the next 14 months when different ones of us will react to the heat by yelling out or withdrawing. I personally have been encouraged by the way in which those who were feeling ‘tougher than our opponents’ rotated to the front with their positive comments, without trying to further demoralize those who were ‘hurt’. Way to go TODville! Yes, we can, AGAIN! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

  15. September 2, 2011 at 10:59 am

    If President Obama is so doomed – Why is the GOP field so bloody lame? Where is Jeb Bush? Where is Chris Christie? Why did Mitch Daniels sit out? John Thune? Bobby Jindal? Bob McDonnell? Mike Pence? Paul Ryan?

    They’re all looking towards 2016, but if a Republican wins this year, they’re locked out for eight years – though might get cabinet spots. So if Obama is so weak and the vast rightwing conspiracy is going to surely defeat him why are they not running now?

    The best they can offer is a robber baron venture capitalist whose been running for President since 2005 and lost spectacularly in 2008 primary, and a Texas Governor who is all smoke and mirrors with crazy out of the mainstream ideas he wrote in a book not a year ago and will not play well outside of the south?

    I don’t think there is a vast right wing conspiracy but rather a lot of folks personal interests are best served attacking the President. Nutroots sell outrage of the moment for PAC donations that they pay themselves out of, MSM needs controversy to sell – to make their jobs easier rather than actually having to dig for news – US Media is entertainment to sell ads and “if it bleeds, it leads” has been newsie mantra forever. Than you have the big banks and businesses who don’t want regulations because they like ripping people off, and the GOP who want to be back in power by any means.

    And despite all of this the President still polls in the low 40’s, equal to or ahead of all GOP candidates without really campaigning at all. And all of these GOP candidates have not faces three years of constant attacks – hell they haven’t even really been attacked in their own primary yet. I know it’s looks like we’re all doomed right now, but there is something to be said about holding fire until the right time, about peaking at the right time as a campaign. Despite all the forces acting against the President, polling for Congress is in the high teens and he’s polling in the low 40’s.

    • 162 nintendowii10
      September 2, 2011 at 11:25 am

      StR, this needs to be repeated: Who cares about polls? Reagan, Clinton, W. Bush, all had low polling during their first term and they were all re-elected. Reagan had double the unemployment numbers that Obama has, and was re-elected. W. Bush had a worse economy than Obama has, and was re-elected, using the campaign of fear tactic.

      The only first termers of the past 30 years who weren’t re-elected were Carter and HW Bush. Carter lost of course primarily because Kennedy primaried him, but also because he decided to “take the gloves off” and acted like the professional left caricature of what they want Obama to be, and folks thought Carter had become unhinged and batshit crazy. HW Bush lost because he also faced a primary, but also said he wouldn’t raise taxes but did anyways.

      So the heck with poll numbers a year out, they don’t mean a thing except to those who want to exploit them to drive people’s emotions.

      • 163 FiredUpInCA
        September 2, 2011 at 5:16 pm

        Interestingly, Ross Perot took away some of Bush’s votes with his campaign that was focused on reducing the deficit. Clinton then took that issue and claimed it as his own and went on to win the election.

    • 164 RinaX
      September 2, 2011 at 1:01 pm

      Thank you SR. There are certain posters here who should just flat-out know better, and I know I’ve lost a lot of respect for them with the type of handwringing that they’ve been doing today.

  16. September 2, 2011 at 11:07 am

    I want to request something of us here. It’s about the way we speak. I say we lose focus and we lose our power to think clearly with repeated use of ~cuss words~ [is what we called them when I was growing up]. For me, they do not forward the conversation, they do not build our strength. I request that we discipline ourselves in our thinking: just discipline ourselves, that’s all. It will take something AND it will pay off in our ability to control our reactivity. We really do not need to blow off any more steam. We all get the picture. Thanks to all who can hear this.

    • September 2, 2011 at 11:15 am

      and, I am also speaking not just of the words, but of the phrases and suggestions about what X might want to do to himself or somebody else . . . . . . . We can strengthen our cause by shifting our lingo. As a matter of respect for ourselves and our dearly beloved President Barack Obama. Thank you for considering this.

  17. 168 Me4obama
    September 2, 2011 at 11:14 am

    I really think Chipsticks should SHUT DOWN this thread, am freaking out with all these NEGATIVE comments. If Jane Hamsher and Huff N Puff have Spies on OBamabots and come here and read all this they will go pop champagne and say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Shaking my head in disbelief :sad:

    • 169 nospin
      September 2, 2011 at 11:30 am

      me4obama after I finally got power back yesterday I read the commentary over the last few days and then this thread, I just made a mental note to stay off TOD for a few weeks. I thought I was on someone elses site.

      It is the same group of folks demanding BS from the President using passive aggressive PL talking points while having no intention of helping this President move forward his agenda. Instead it is . . . well sure PO will be fine if he isn’t elected in 2012, but he needs to TAKE THE GLOVES OFF and wave the wand so that he can continue as President because he needs to fix this for MEEEEE. As an added bonus they have committed to an agenda of depressing this previously positive blog and dampening support for the President.

      unfrackingbelievable I have gone from Fired Up to whatever. PO, take your wife and kids and roll.

      • 170 anniebella
        September 2, 2011 at 11:58 am

        I will never go from Fired Up to whatever. No one will make me lose faith. When I said I will fight for this President re-election I meant it. If we are not willing to fight then we are saying go ahead let’s have a President Perry, Bachmann, or Romney. I’m not willing to say that . I know these T-Republicans will not make things better for the poor and middle class. We know that you have plenty of friends when things are going great, but let alittle hard time appear and you will soon learn who were you real friends and who were the pretenders. Well I’m still fired up and I am getting ready to make my monthly donation to the Obama/Biden re-election campaign. Oh yea, as for as how the President should handle the T-Repbublicans, I believe he will do that in the right time.

  18. 171 nintendowii10
    September 2, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Has this place suddenly morphed into HuffnPuff or DailyKos? I’ve read multiple posts about how President Obama should forget about independents and act like the Republicans, why are so many of you posting the same debunked professional left garbage from the MSM?

    President Obama needs to be himself and continue to stay above the fray, and who cares if his poll numbers take a dive? Polls don’t mean squat a year out, did ya’ll forget how in 2007 Obama was dead LAST in polling, and how polls showed that 2008 was going to be between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giluiani?

    We are all frustrated, but as Reverend Al said last night, we have to back the President. This isn’t the time to be whining about petty nonsense like optics, this is the time to let the other side have it.

    Come next year, it will all pay off because we can say that we did our best, but Congress is full of a bunch of Teapug radicals who don’t want to do a thing about jobs, and that will get the independents who determine the election. Like it or not, they do decide the election, especially Presidential elections, and we won’t get them by playing the same hardball politics that the Teapugs do.

    People need to relax and chill out, President Obama knows EXACTLY what he is doing. He didn’t get this far in politics by being naive.

    • 172 Leigh
      September 2, 2011 at 11:26 am

      This place has not become Huffingtonpost or Dailykos, many are just saying what many have been thinking for awhile. We as supporters cannot run from the facts that the economy is not doing well, and President Obama is getting blamed for it. We also, cannot run from the facts that playing nice with Republicans is something that President Obama needs to stop. Him telling not the truth about Republicans or remaing above the fray as you say, is not helping him.

      • 173 Desraye
        September 2, 2011 at 11:40 am

        The posts look like Huffington Post and The Daily KOs to me.

        • 174 Leigh
          September 2, 2011 at 11:52 am

          That’s fine with me. I just see the big picture, and things are not going well, so if that makes me look like Huffington Post so be it.

          • 175 nintendowii10
            September 2, 2011 at 11:58 am

            Then you can take your professional left hogwash to Huffington Post and you’ll be given badges, as well as Featured Poster for saying that Obama plays nice with Republicans too much.

            Seriously, I thought we were smarter than that, but it’s a shame when even our own Obamabots start falling for the garbage from the professional left.

            BTW, Rusty said “So be it” as well, in regards to incidentally enough, the jobs situation and if it gets worse.

            • 176 Leigh
              September 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm

              Wow one cannot express an opinion that obviously differs from a majority of posters, and gets written off. I am not going to do the back and forth thing, I stated my thought on what I feel about what the West Wing needs to improve on, and I stand by them. Nect time I will just keep my toughts to myself and return to lurking.

              • 177 Leigh
                September 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm

                Lastly, I never hurled insults at anyone, and I stated my opinions in a nice way.

              • 178 nintendowii10
                September 2, 2011 at 12:21 pm

                I don’t mind criticism that is backed with fact, but saying that “Obama plays nice with Republicans” is not fact, it’s the same crap that I dealt with on Huffington Post and has been repeatedly discredited.

                As for insults, I never stated you insulted anyone, I’m just pointing out that your “criticism” is no different from the garbage that the feckless emoprogs post day in and day out, and it’s not what we need right now.

          • 180 Desraye
            September 2, 2011 at 12:01 pm

            More of defeatist attitude. You are making Karl Rove proud.

      • 181 nintendowii10
        September 2, 2011 at 11:56 am

        Really??? Then why are more folks blaming the Teapugs than President Obama for the way things are going now????

        And the BIG PICTURE??? Do you not see how President Obama remaining above the fray will get him the independents that he needs to get re elected???

        And I point this out again: Reagan and W. Bush both had WORSE economies than Obama has now, and both were RE ELECTED, I repeat, RE ELECTED.

        “Playing nice with republicans,” That is a professional left talking point and YOU need to quit repeating it as if it’s fact.

    • 182 nospin
      September 2, 2011 at 11:33 am

      “Has this place suddenly morphed into HuffnPuff or DailyKos? ”

      I would say it isn’t quite there yet, but that seems to be where things are headed.

      • September 2, 2011 at 5:08 pm

        Oh dear! I spoke too soon above about offering a hand up when a known supporter (as opposed to a troller) is ‘down’! Maybe I should suggest the alternative of walking around them when we cannot offer a hand up, instead of stomping? Sigh. I guess there are not many families where things are rosy and upbeat 100% of the time. Onward and upward!

  19. 185 gcwp1
    September 2, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Wow. This is not the place I’ve come to love. Taking a break. My best to everyone. gc

  20. 186 proudmemberofglobalzero
    September 2, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Wow ya’ll. I have total faith in this President. Too many sat home in 2010 and that is where we are. I suggest we all get as active as we did in 2007. I for one already have my, by Florida Law, Third Party Voter Registration certificate. I am using it now and will ramp up very soon.

    My favorite thing is knocking on doors, going to malls, flea markets, store parking lots to register voters. Schools are on my list this year too.

    • 187 Karen
      September 2, 2011 at 1:24 pm

      WOW is right. Inviting haters to argue with loyal President Obama supporters. What’s with all of the MSNBC videos? The absolute only reason to watch MSNBC is for Al Sharpton. I’ve had it with this place too. Goodbye!

  21. 189 Lightfoot
    September 2, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Yeah Boner, where are the jobs?!

  22. 190 anniebella
    September 2, 2011 at 11:37 am

    I want to make it plain as plain can be, I still support this President because I know what the GOP have been doing. I know the uphill battle this President have been facing, but despite it all I still have faith in him to do the job. So no way am I going negative on anyone but the sorry ass T-Republicans, and these businesses for not doing any hiring. They are working along with the T-Republicans, and the sorry media.

  23. 191 Desraye
    September 2, 2011 at 11:57 am

    I see the comments above and all I could do was shake my head. People on pro-Obama blogs doing it everytime theres a bad economy report. I am sick of the he needs to fight back bs. The is still a dumb talking point by the pl. I thought I was going to see a ” Obama is weak” comment from this thread. If you noticed that the lead Republican contenders do not have a jobs plan. What’s Perry’s plan? Romney?Bachman?Huntsman is the only one that has a plan, but he polls lower than the other three. The president actually has a jobs plan.Perry is leading and has not mention a jobs plan. What does that tell? For god sakes the president hasn’t even started to campaign yet. You also don’t know what he’s going to said next week. The election is 14 months away. Anything can happen before then. Please get rid of the Defeatist attitude beacuse there is already enough of that on other progressive blogs.

    • 192 nintendowii10
      September 2, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      Tell me about it, I am ashamed at how our own Obamabots repeat the professional left garbage as if it’s fact.

      That’s why I was initially glad that spaces like this one exist: Because I was worn down by the garbage posted on Huffington Post and how much disrespect he was getting over there. But now folks are posting the exact same garbage I read over there on this blog, and acting like it’s fact.

      Yes, President Obama’s situation sucks, but attacking him and saying what he should/shouldn’t do isn’t going to make things better. We need to aim our fire at the Teapugs, especially Rusty, and we need to have our President’s back.

      This isn’t the time to throw in the towel. The feckless emoprogs threw the towel in six months into the man’s presidency, sat the last election out, and look how that has paid off.

      As a poster on Randi Rhodes message board pointed out, we’ve been so used and accustomed to losing that we don’t know how to take victory laps when we earn them. We got the American Recovery Act, the healthcare law, DADT repeal, two healthy Supreme Court justices, credit card reform, financial reform, and Osama bin Laden, the man that masterminded the deaths of 3000+ Americans almost 10 years ago, got a bullet in his skull and is now fishfood at the bottom of the sea. What have the Teapugs done to compete with a list of accomplishments like that? And people STILL think that they are going to win it all next year?

      • 193 bison
        September 2, 2011 at 6:00 pm

        Thank you for your post! The Huffington Post reads like talk radio. There is too much time spent on what people think the president is doing wrong instead of firing at the GOP/TP, which deserves the wrath.

    • 194 anniebella
      September 2, 2011 at 12:08 pm

      I agree with you Desraye. I am still Fired Up and Ready to fight for this President, and this country. I will not give up and just hand this election over to those horrible Republicans. So let’s pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and get ready to fight. We knew it was going to be a battle, nothing would be easy. And my head is not in the sand, but I be dog gone if I am going to hand the White House over to the GOP without a fight. Obama/Biden 2012.

  24. September 2, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    “If our political system were in any way sane, elected leaders would look at these numbers and conclude that the economy desperately needs an immediate jolt. Job creation should be the first, and arguably only, priority on the minds of policymakers.”

    That’s a good point from Benen, but he should have substituted “Republicans” for “elected leaders.”

    The President and the Democrats know that job creation is important and have been pushing for that. The GOP has been throwing monkey wrenches into the gears. Why can’t the MSM and the Firebaggers see that?

  25. 196 tally
    September 2, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    I am posting this in every fucking thread so people will STFU about it – forgive me for the repetition:

    ****PRINCESS POTTY MOUTH ALERT**** (this is not directed at YOU personally, but at the thought process you have somehow picked up and allowed to hinder your independent, rational thought.)

    I hear this so fucking much, yet NO ONE says EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY, or HOW do you do that when your sworn enemies OWN THE FUCKING MEDIA?

    Explain to me, how exactly, that happens?

    How is he NOT getting “OUT THERE”? What does that mean? He is OUT THERE every fucking day, and Chips has VIDEO HERE to PROVE IT. Granted, it’s not carried on the TV, and WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT IS? Shouldn’t the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BE CONSIDERED NEWS???

    Maybe he should just take Jim Carney’s place and give a press conference every day? Jim does that now pretty much, and they don’t carry him. Yet we even have video of that too.

    DEATH PANELS? Of COURSE they responded – but if the Media won’t air it, THEN WTF DO YOU DO? Call them and yell at them? Think that will work? Death Panels was absurd on it’s FACE – Tell me, even if you were in front of a camera, WHAT DO YOU SAY EXACTLY? POTUS said, “Your care will be between you and your Doctor, not you and your insurance company.” AND “There will be money now for end of life counseling with the family, before you’re in hospice.” WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU SAY?

    I see the POTUS getting OUT THERE, EVERY FUCKING DAY, thanks to whitehouse.gov, and sometimes C-SPAN. The people I DON’T SEE is the rest of the DEMS IN CONGRESS. They’re probably out there too, but there is a MEDIA BLACKOUT on them, because the GOP OWNS THE FUCKING MEDIA, and there are NO LAWS OR REGULATIONS anymore (thanks to Reagan) than make it MANDATORY for BOTH SIDES TO HAVE EQUAL TIME.

    Please explain IN DETAIL, HOW the POTUS and the DEMS – demand airtime from the GOPMEDIA.

  26. 197 sjterrid
    September 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    I fully support this president . He has shown from the beginning of his presidency that his concern is what’s best for the American people. He doesn’t play political game. He ignores the 24 news cycles, because he knows they are really just distractions from policies that will benefit the people. Plus by not saying anything against the republicans, they themselves are showing how much contempt they have for everybody but the extreme wealthy. I really don’t care about polls, but it’s the teaparty and republicans that have the largest disapproval ratings.

  27. 198 sjterrid
    September 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    I fully support President Obama. He has shown from the beginning of his presidency that he is on the American Peoples side, and he doesn’t play political games. He doesn’t pay attention to the 24 new cycle, because he knows that it’s all a distraction to keep the people from finding out the truth about his policies. Because he doesn’t scream about what the republicans are doing and continues to treat them with respect,
    they are constantly showing themselves how much contempt they have for the American people that aren’t millionaires or billionaires .
    I don’t pay attention to any of the polls. As much as they love to report lowering approval rating for the president, we know the teaparty and republicans in congress have the lowest approval and highest disapproval rating on record.

  28. 200 kefauver
    September 2, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I really wish some people would get a grip around here. Some of you sound like PL blowhards.

    Here’s the deal:

    The big companies have been making profits and sustained earnings for over a year and a half now. They’re sitting on mountains of cash. The banks not only received bailouts, but they’re near paying off all of those bailouts. The banks have a ton of money to lend. The sad reality is that big businesses have decided to sit on their cash rather than hire. Banks aren’t lending when it is sorely needed right now. Obama can’t put a gun to the heads of these entities and force them to do what they’re supposed to do. Then you have the TGOP who won’t cooperate with Obama on anything that will help this country. They’re only out to make sure Obama fails. Obama and Democrats have had some great legislation ideas, but it never sees the light of day in Congress. Hell, Obama can’t even get recess appointments through. I thought everyone here knew that. I guess not.


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