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bwd’s right, fight the hate with a moneybomb

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Sensible people ignore the polls, after all the only one that matters is in 12 months’ time. But for the obsessive poll-watchers among us (err, me!) ….. the President has had a +9 point swing with Gallup this week (+14 in a month) – his approval is up 5 to 45 and his disapproval is down 4.

;-)

Gallup


255 Responses to “bwd’s right, fight the hate with a moneybomb”


  1. November 20, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Chips why is the title not showing up on any of the post for me?

    • 2 jacquelineoboomer
      November 20, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      I’m not seeing the title, either. No biggie – just thought I’d mention.

      • November 20, 2011 at 9:54 pm

        Hi Jacq, another completely weird glitch that I spotted in the last couple of days – since an utterly pointless WordPress update.

        I emailed them earlier today to ask what was happening with the post titles, the font color has suddenly become the same as the background color (almost white) …. even though it’s set as black.

        Grrrrr! Hopefully they’ll get back to me before 2017.

        • 4 nathkatun7
          November 21, 2011 at 2:53 am

          Hey Chipsticks, one of my comments, on a previous thread, was rejected as being a duplicate, which was not true. Was that from you or was it part of the “weird glitch?” In any case, it was not that crucial because as I read through many the comments that other people made the had made somewhat similar observations about how the MSM is trying to render President Obama “INVISIBLE” whenever he travels to foreign countries, like Ireland, UK, Australia, India, South Korea, and Brazil, that warmly and enthusiastically received him.

  2. 5 ChristiMtl
    November 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    It was a very intense weekend….between this disgusting display and Chris Matthews…..I was very upset, angry….still am.

    FLOTUS is a class act, I just love her.

    Can someone tell me what this means please?

    JeffersonObama C Gauvin
    Kurt Busch flipped off secret service armored SUV..Or was he flipping off Michelle Obama?

    It’s all over twitter now…..who is that person?

    • November 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm

      i google him he is a nascar racer

    • November 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm

      he’s a NASCAR tool aka driver who is likely a repug if he flipped of SS or possibly Miche.

      • November 20, 2011 at 5:25 pm

        he also apparently has a history of flipping people off. just google kurt busch flips off and you’ll get quite a listing. didn’t read or watch any of them but that long list tells you all you need to know about Mr. Busch.

      • 9 dotster3
        November 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm

        He’s also one of 5 drivers who declined the WH invitation in Sept. From everything I’ve read, he’s a real hothead, flipping everyone off, including fellow drivers, constantly in fights with other drivers, ramming their cars and driving them into walls, fined $100,000 after one race. He sounds like a real spoiled, small-minded, overgrown tantrum-thrower. And after getting a DUI, he was made an honorary deputy in crazy Sheriff Arpaio’s county in Arizona, which should give you a clue as to character. Not a class act, to put it mildly.

        • 10 jacquelineoboomer
          November 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm

          In other words, nobody we need to think about. Another one on the list of people we don’t need to think about! :)

    • 11 FiredUpInCA
      November 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm

      Apparently, Kurt Busch flipped off secret service for blocking his path to the garage… but as lisalovesobama notes below, he has a history of flipping the bird.

      I don’t see any value in attempting to appeal to the better angels of a well-paid, grown man that communicates by flipping the bird.

      • 12 FiredUpInCA
        November 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm

        Actually lisalovesobama notes Anton Bursch’s history of flipping the bird above. I thought my first comment would appear in a different spot.

      • November 20, 2011 at 6:39 pm

        Me thinks some e-mails to his sponsors might go a long way toward some badly needed behavior modification. Hmmm?

      • 15 Mary Gray
        November 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm

        Contacted them and left message that was’t too kind. Then cipped in somre extra $$ to BWD page. I feel a little better now. For once I wish I were male, 6’6″” weighed 260 and was a defensive lineman for Green Bay. I would find that little twerp and he would be missing his two middle fingers and the 21st appendage he so cherishes.

    • 16 Cindy Sweatt
      November 20, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      I have no idea who Kurt Busch is. What did Chris Matthews do? Can someone share. Thanks

  3. 18 meabloom
    November 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Headed there now. :)

  4. 19 maritza
    November 20, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Who is matching donations?

  5. 20 Desraye
    November 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    People on the other thread said she should have not gone.My take is that FLOTUS thought she was going to be dealing with grow-ups. You know people that don’t act like high schoolers. I mean FLOTUS and PBO are used to being around adults, not adults that act like children. She also went there for the troops. The troops was so important to FLOTUS that she went in front of a crowd of people that she know that dislikes her and her husband. This is why I am not bother because I know this made folks that disrespected FLOTUS look real small. I mean it takes a real small-minded person to disrespect someone that’s trying to support the troops.

    • 21 Brittany
      November 20, 2011 at 5:59 pm

      I believe she shouldn’t have went. A NASCAR event and her was never going to mix well.

      • November 20, 2011 at 6:36 pm

        Brittany, I’m afraid I have to disagree with you. She is the first lady of the country, not just Obama supporters and she deserves respect whereever she goes. She and Dr. Jill Biden went there to do something for our troops. Ironic that the crowd that pretends to be so patriotic couldn’t even support that. Hypocrites.

        And, as a black woman, it’s like people are telling FLOTUS to not be seen. To drink at the colored fountain or ride in the back of the bus. This is the dog whistle Matthews was giving. They should be grateful.

        Did anyone ever tell Laura Bush or Barbara Bush where they could go?

        What is more American than FLOTUS and Dr. Jill trying to help our troops?

        My heart aches for our President and First Lady, although I know they will ignore it and keep going. But I am disgusted.

        • November 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm

          So agree with you proudofobama, so disgusted at all of this!

        • 24 desertflower
          November 20, 2011 at 7:31 pm

          Perfectly said. I agree…as I wrote similar sentiments in another post.

        • November 20, 2011 at 9:38 pm

          Amen, *proud*, I concur :-)

        • 26 nathkatun7
          November 21, 2011 at 3:25 am

          Thank you, Proudofobama, for expressing so well everything I felt. There is absolutely no excuse for justifying the behavior of these people. In the past, once some one was elected President, even his fierce opponents gave him his due until they successfully mounted a campaign to defeat him. Even more importantly, It was an absolute “NO, NO!” to disrespect the First Lady of the United States. No one on the left ever, and I mean ever, disrespected any of the Republican First Ladies! I hope this does not set a precedent that you only respect the wives of Presidents of your own party. For me, what transpired is clear evidence that a great many people in this country still believe in white privilege. If that’s the way they want it, I see no reason why people of color should enlist in the military to defend the perpetuation of white privilege.

      • November 20, 2011 at 6:46 pm

        The First Lady of The United States cannot just go to places where they only show her unconditional love. If that’s the case her husband should never have went to Asheville North Carolina where he lost to McCain by a 80-20 margin. She’s a strong tough woman who will go anywhere to help military families.

        • 28 nathkatun7
          November 21, 2011 at 3:49 am

          Sorry, debingle, for disagreeing with you! The issue is not about showing the First Lady “unconditional love.” The issue is about showing the First Lady RESPECT! Unless you can cite an examples of previous First Ladies being so disrespected, I am afraid that you are condoning incivility and disrespect of the FLOTUS. I guess, from now on, we all should respect only Presidents and First Ladies of our own parties. I wonder how that would work for promoting a cohesive country? Should I also urge some of my family members in the military to go to war only when a Democrat is President and refuse to go to war when a Republican is President? The reality is President Obama was elected President according to the standards set out in the Constitution. Until January, 2013, he is the duly elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. His wife is the duly recognized FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES. Unless, of corse, you are suggesting that Laura Bush should have been disrespected in places where her husband received 20%, or less, of the vote? I do agree with you that the First Lady, Michelle Obama, is ” a strong tough woman.” But that does mean that we should condone or excuse the vile disrespect shown her in her position as the FLOTUS.

      • 29 Desraye
        November 20, 2011 at 6:56 pm

        If she did not go she would be letting down the troops and their family and just because some people don’t like her doesn’t mean she should not attend an event. This is the same woman that is married to the man that’s be accused of not being a US citizen. She is strong, she can handle it.

      • 30 anniebella
        November 20, 2011 at 7:40 pm

        I disagree Brittany, believe it or not, not everyone booed, and this was for the military families. FLOTUS have dealt with racists folks before. Remember the roomMate at Princeton, or was t the roommate’s Mother?

      • 31 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        November 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm

        Brittany she serves us all not just those who would vote for her husband. The Obamas are very strong people and this will not effect her. If you can survive Chicago politics with all the diverse inter waring groups there and work the streets you can survive anything. I watched the clip of the introduction. I believe the respectful cheers were louder than the boos. What to you expect at a NASCAR event? They are just short of a KKK rally. KUDOS to FLOTUS and Dr. Jill Biden. :grin:

        • November 20, 2011 at 10:11 pm

          Keith, you’re absolutely right. You don’t grow up in the south side of Chicago, earn a scholarship to Princeton where you are surrounded by a lot of elite whites and make it in the business world without being able to handle anything that comes your way. She would have withered like a flower with all the attacks against her during the campaign if she hadn’t learned to deal with racists and haters a long time ago. Michelle Obama is a woman of great courage and toughness of character, combined with tremendous love. Truly one in a million.

          • November 20, 2011 at 10:44 pm

            Hi Jackie, I know what you mean, but I’m just really uncomfortable with the notion that because she’s probably been used to bigotry all her life that she should be able to handle an experience like today’s.

            How can we make that assumption when we don’t live in her shoes or truly know her? How can we assume that she was able to dismiss it as one of those things, rather than being really shaken and hurt by it?

            I just kept hoping today that her daughters weren’t watching to see their mother at the event, but, if they were, how did they feel when they heard that (small) section of the crowd boo their mother?

            Democrats hated George Bush, but I don’t remember anyone booing Laura when she attended events (or am I wrong?), First Ladies might not always have been loved, but there used to be a certain respect, you didn’t take out on them your opposition to their husbands.

            I’m not for a minute saying that you are downplaying this – you’re not, at all – I’m just responding to the notion by some that today was no big deal, that Michelle is probably used to this kind of ugly. No one should ever be expected to be used to this kind of ‘ugly’, we should never assume they can dismiss it as just one of those things, even if it was a NASCAR crowd. It’s just my view, we should be horrified by it.

            • 34 nathkatun7
              November 21, 2011 at 4:24 am

              Well said, Chipsticks! President Obama is the duly elected President of the United States, According to tradition, his wife, Michelle Obama, is the First Lady of the United States. Tradition dictates that the FLOTUS is treated with respect. Unless someone can cite me an example of where previous First Ladies were subjected to similar disrespectful behavior, I join you in being “horrified” about the incivility sweeping this country. Obviously, I know that First Lady Michelle Obama is a strong woman who will overcome this. But that is beside the point. The point is, you don’t have to love or agree with the FLOTUS, but you still have to give her the respect of her position. I wonder how the NASCAR crowd would have reacted, if Laura Bush was disrespected by a BASKETBALL crowd in Chicago or Los Angeles? I am absolutely with you Chipsticks, today was “a big deal” because it clearly demonstrated the ugliness of people who, no matter what, will never accept the legitimacy of President Obama, and, by extension, First Lady Michelle Obama. Having said that, our mission is to try to ensure that the majority of people who elected President Obama will not be swayed by these blatant ugliness that promote irrational hatred. Our mission must be focused on convincing the majority of Americans to support President Obama and his long range vision to restore the greatness of this country by building a strong and secure economic foundation. At the same time we must constantly push back against the irrational haters.

      • 35 Sandy1110
        November 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm

        Yes she should have.

        She doesn’t let the haters control where she goes. She’s the First Lady and goes ANYWHERE in this country she chooses so that she can do the work she wants to do for the nation.

        She displayed her usual grace and class. Those who booed were the ones who looked bad.

        The same goes for anyone who’s out there lobbing these crap balls at the POTUS and FLOTUS. The likes of West, Halperin, and now Matthews? They’ll be remembered more for the crazy/asinine things they said if they keep it up.

    • November 20, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      Agree with you Desraye, this was about the Troops for FLOTUS & VFLOTUS. It was the crowd who was wrong, doing wrong, behaving wrong, being wrong. Wrong to FLOTUS & Wrong to our Troops.

    • November 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm

      I don’t understand that argument at all.. So she should only go to Dem-leaning/friendly areas to show her support of troops? Aren’t there rednecks who have family who are in the military. Is it only Dem-leaning military communities that deserve the support and presence of FLOTUS. Come on now.

      Please as soon as FLOUTS or POTUS started only going to friendly military communities, then every damn body will be complaining about POTUS not being supportive of ALL military family. And the complaints would come from both sides of the spectrum Dem & GOP and we all know it.

    • 40 Betsy
      November 20, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      What happened? It sounds like something bad happened at NASCAR? I didn’t watch TV today.

  6. 43 FiredUpInCA
    November 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    For some reason I can’t begin to care about Chris Matthews or the NASCAR crowd. I am more interested in who the President will be running against and the next steps for the supercommittee.

    Chris Matthews averages 685,000 passive, casual viewers. NASCAR attracts a smattering of booers. The President has more than a million donors and doers.

    Ultimately, the President’s supporters are going to trump the lilliputians. We need to win the White House, the House and the Senate. Not Chris Matthews or some barely audible classless idiots at NASCAR.

    Flashback:

    “DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President Bush throttled up his re-election campaign Sunday by donning a racing jacket and opening the Daytona 500, NASCAR’s most prestigious event in a sport that draws a prized voter profile.

    “Gentlemen, start your engines!” Bush said, squinting up from pit road to the grandstands, where some 180,000 fans roared. They were promptly drowned out by the scream of stock car engines roaring to life.”

    http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/02/15/bc.bush.ap/

    The taxpayers paid for this blatant campaigning and no race car driver concerned trolled about the cost. They cheer and embrace the worst President in modern memory, whose decisions from Katrina to Iraq to the Wall Street meltdown, wreaked havoc at home and abroad but I’m supposed to be deeply concerned about what they think?

    Not feeling it.

    • November 20, 2011 at 5:44 pm

      hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. Thank you, FiredUp. You really know how to put things in perspective. :lol:

    • 46 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      November 20, 2011 at 8:43 pm

      Thanks FiredUp. Sometimes we can take our detractors a little too personally when our attention needs to be directed at more important issues. Excellent post.

    • November 20, 2011 at 9:10 pm

      Great stuff FiredUpInCA, thank you. It was just the ugliness of what happened that was so upsetting for everyone, even though it was hardly a surprise from that bunch of freaks. Of course there are more important issues and battles to be fought, but such a stark reminder of the levels of hate out there is hard to brush away. But you’re right, these creatures lost in 2008, and they’ll lose again in 2012. Thanks again.

      • 48 FiredUpInCA
        November 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm

        Chipsticks I want to personally thank you for this venue. You have created a great space, that attracts generous spirits and excellent minds and I am grateful for it. I learn so much here. I don’t own a television and haven’t for several years. But with the space that you’ve created, where you can get access to facts analysis from a variety of international sources, I am consistently informed.

        I want to be clear, I profoundly understand the indignation that people have about the events over the last few days, I am just in a rare and I assure you, fleeting moment of zen about them. I reserve my right to go off, respectfully of course, if these fools continue to mess with my President and First Lady.

        • November 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm

          “I reserve my right to go off, respectfully of course, if these fools continue to mess with my President and First Lady.”

          FiredUp, thank you for making me laugh out loud – quite literally!

          And thank you for sharing your wisdom here, it’s people like you who make it all such a pleasure, I can’t tell you how much I enjoy your comments and observations.

    • 50 nathkatun7
      November 21, 2011 at 4:41 am

      I agree with everything you said, but I still think it’s important to highlight the ugliness and incivility shown to First Lady, Michelle Obama, that would never have been acceptable if it were subjected to previous First Ladies who were white. If this is the “New standard” of how to respond to FLOUTS that belong to other parties, or are married to Presidents we don’t like, then let’s hope the media won’t go in a frenzy if a future white Republican First Lady is subjected to similar treatment, by opponents of her husband, to what Michelle Obama was subjected to.

  7. 51 debbyeOh
    November 20, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Hi TOD-ville all! Hope your Sunday is going well! I like the idea of meeting their hate with love. Dr King had a beautiful saying about that, it bring tears to my mind when I read it. Also, remember our President would always say “don’t boo, vote!” when people would let their emotions get the best of them. I’m not saying it will be easy, I don’t suffer fools easy. But love will keep us focused on the battle ahead. Press on!

  8. November 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Exactly! Way to go chips! And thanks for those pictures again!

  9. November 20, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Sensible people ignore the polls, after all the only one that matters is in 12 months’ time. But for the obsessive poll-watchers among us (me!) ….. the President has had a +9 point swing with Gallup this week – his approval is up 5 to 45 and his disapproval is down 4.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
    ;-)

    • November 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

      I bet Tweety will be one of the first so called “left of center” talking heads to ignore this rise in the polls. I wonder if he’ll have the nerve tomorrow to apologize for what he said. Either way, I won’t be watching, just as I haven’t been watching for months. :D

    • 56 dotster3
      November 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm

      And I bet this poll will be headlining every political/news website tomorrow, and every news program will open with the news of Obama’s rise in the polls.
      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. 57 utaustinliberal
    November 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Love it Chips. Fighting foolish crap with pro-active action. I pity the fools who keep on pissing us off. They just make us work harder, donate more, register more voters, and volunteer in huge droves. Thanks haters. Your bile just fuels our determination to make sure President Obama is re-elected.

  11. November 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    “The President was engaged in daily discussions throughout the summer on how to reduce the deficit in a balanced way and in September he put forward a very detailed set of recommendations to the Joint Select Committee to achieve deficit reduction well beyond the Committee’s mandate. Avoiding accountability and kicking the can down the road is how Washington got into this deficit problem in the first place, so Congress needs to do its job here and make the kind of tough choices to live within its means that American families make every day.”

  12. 60 GGail
    November 20, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Hey guys – while you’re bombing…..don’t forget Chipsticks. Her total is currently $5,810 and her goal is $6,000. :-)

  13. November 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Obama scores diplomatic victory over China
    Published: 19/11/2011 at 09:32 AM

    The “robust” discussion on the South China Sea territorial row, at the East Asia Summit on the Indonesian resort island of Bali, took place after a week of increasingly sharp exchanges between the two world powers. Washington’s new diplomatic campaign to assert itself as a Pacific power has alarmed China which sees the initiatives, including stationing US Marines in northern Australia, as intruding into its sphere of influence.

    China’s Premier Wen Jiabao has warned against interference by “external forces” in the maritime wrangle, over a strategic and resource-rich area where several regional nations have overlapping claims. But shortly after hastily arranged talks between Obama and Wen on the summit sidelines, the group leaders held a “very robust conversation on maritime security and the South China Sea” according to a US administration official.

    Obama was “encouraged” by the talks and the tone was “constructive,” the official said on condition of anonymity, referring to a famous Wild West gunfight by saying it was “not a shootout at the OK Corral”. There was no “tirade” from Wen, he said, adding: “Even though maybe he started off maybe a little grouchy, by and large he was very measured.” Chinese state media indicated that Wen reluctantly agreed to the issue being raised at the 18-nation summit. “I don’t want to discuss this issue at the summit, however, leaders of some countries mentioned China on the issue. It’s impolite not to make a return for what one receives,” he said according to the official Xinhua news agency.

    ~snip~

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/266981/obama-scores-diplomatic-victory-over-china

    • November 20, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      The President’s visit and the results shook China to the core.

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:18 pm

      Knew it has to be a foreign news source. You’d never get this kind of analysis from our our media, sad to say. If this had been any other president sitting in the room with a Chinese leader, that leader would have entered testy and left furious. Think Bush, Romney, Perry having this conversation in their ham-fisted way and imagine the consequences.

  14. 64 Debz
    November 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    For everyone who has been angry and upset all weekend, how about we just donate to the President’s reelection campaign and ignore the haters. Let’s not waste energy on negative feelings when there is something we all can do that is positive.

    • 65 Mel
      November 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm

      That is a great idea so please people stop watching tweety, he wants attention i never watched him so
      I could careless about him and I am not worried about the polls I do not this election it’s going to be
      close no matter who the GOP nominee will be, but it looks that Mitten is the one to watch so Rahm last
      night in Iowa went on the attack very nicely with the facts. So Mr flip floper bring it on PBO will be ready.
      The more we pay attention to the polls right the crazier we get so calm down and trust PBO.

    • 66 nathkatun7
      November 21, 2011 at 5:30 am

      I agree! I donated to both Chipsticks and VP Biden’s Birthday promotion. We must donate, organize, and register new voters if we want to win in 2012. I know I am guilty of this, but some times the energy we exert being angry at the bashers of President Obama could be better expended by focusing on positive activities that are more likely to help in re-electing the President. Obviously, there are some egregious attacks on the President and his family that require robust response. That is why I am so proud of the response of this community, especially the people who twitter, in pushing back against the those intent on trashing the President. I have also decided that from now until Nov. 2012, I will try my best to contribute at least $25 a month to the President’s re-election fund.

  15. November 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Go utaustinliberal!!!!! That’s right–we will just get more determined. Those bottem feeders at the race just are pathetic!!!

  16. 68 carolyn
    November 20, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    I ache for our beautiful FLOTUS and VFLOTUS to have to suffer through this. However, I know there will be people who will see that who will be horrified, and will reassess their own attitudes. Yes, I firmly believe that. Some people may have gone along with negativity toward the president, but will not tolerate this kind of behavior. It brings this horribleness into living color, and shows it off. And, Southerners (most of NASCAR fans) always brag about their chivalry and good treatment of women…..NOT. However, those who do adhere to that will be appalled.
    Remember that Christ, Gandhi, MLK, all started being reviled, and by LIVING what they preached, brought millions with them and changed lives. The President and his brilliant wife are doing the same thing. I imagine that was quite an experience for Jill Biden, who being white has never experienced that before. FLOTUS told some reporters four years ago when something bad was said (I forget what) “That’s not the worst thing we’ve heard.”
    Her heart is so strong for these military families that she will suffer this nastiness for them. Good always takes time to work, but good does always overcome evil…….just not as fast as I’d like it to!!! She went knowing. She was not unprepared.

    • 69 dotster3
      November 20, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      Jill Biden is such a good, pure spirit (much like her husband), and she looked taken aback there for a minute. She’s a darling gal in all ways and a real force for good. She and Michelle have formed such a successful, praise-worthy partnership with their military family outreach, bringing much needed attention and change. No amount of boos can change that fact or diminish it in any way.

  17. November 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Chevron takes full responsibility for Brazil oil spill

    Chevron said it had underestimated the pressure of underwater oil deposits while drilling, causing oil to rush up the bore hole and seep into the surrounding seabed. Brazilian regulators said 416,400 litres had leaked since the accident happened almost two weeks ago. Chevron said the leak had now been plugged. But the head of Chevron’s Brazil operation, George Buck, said there continued to be a residual oil flow from undersea rock near the well in the Frade oil project, 370km (230 miles) off the Brazilian coast. Earlier this week, Brazil’s Energy Minister Edison Lobao said the company would be “severely punished” if it was found to have failed in its environmental responsibilities.

    ~snip~

    In recent years Brazil has discovered billions of barrels of oil in deep water that could make it one of the world’s top five producers. So far there has been little public debate about the environmental dangers of offshore drilling. Political discussion has instead focused on how future oil revenues should be divided between different states.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-15813671

  18. 71 LOL
    November 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Hey Guys…..We #PressOn and don’t let these small things and/or people bother us. Both the military families and the drivers enjoyed them. Don’t let anyone or anything STEAL your joy.

    Here is a brief story from the AP

    Michelle Obama and Jill Biden are visiting NASCAR’s season finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway.

    The first lady and the vice president’s wife are on hand to honor military troops and families and recognize new commitments by companies planning to hire and train veterans and military spouses. It’s part of their Joining Forces program.

    The women received a standing ovation at the pre-race drivers’ meeting Sunday. Obama said NASCAR has been “amazing in terms of its support, not just today but every day for military families.”

    She added that days like this remind military families that “they do have a country that cares and appreciates what they do, and it means so much to them.”

    Obama and Biden are scheduled to serve as grand marshals for the finale.

    • 72 Mel
      November 20, 2011 at 7:07 pm

      LOL thanks for the INF people were all ready getting upset and let’s move on. the 2 first Ladys did
      just fine.

  19. November 20, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    For Immediate Release
    November 14, 2011

    We Can’t Wait: Health Care Innovation Challenge will improve care, save money, focus on health care jobs

    Up to $1 billion dollars will be awarded to innovative projects across the country that test creative ways to deliver high quality medical care and save money. Launched today by the Department of Health and Human Services, the Health Care Innovation Challenge will also give preference to projects that rapidly hire, train and deploy health care workers.

    “We’ve taken incredible steps to reduce health care costs and improve care, but we can’t wait to do more,” said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. “Both public and private community organizations around the country are finding innovative solutions to improve our health care system and the Health Care Innovation Challenge will help jump start these efforts.”

    Funded by the Affordable Care Act, the Health Care Innovation Challenge will award grants in March to applicants who will implement the most compelling new ideas to deliver better health, improved care and lower costs to people enrolled in Medicare, Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, particularly those with the highest health care needs. The Challenge will support projects that can begin within six months. Additionally, projects that focus on rapid workforce development will be given priority when grants are awarded.

    ~snip~

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/14/we-cant-wait-health-care-innovation-challenge-will-improve-care-save-mon

    • 74 nospin
      November 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm

      this is brilliant. Won’t be surprised if some states adopt the public option. POTUS announced on March of this year that individual states can come up with their own version of the healthcare plan as long as it provides the same or more health care coverage and meets the needs of the individual.

      Obama Administration takes new steps to support innovation, empower states
      New regulations implementing the Affordable Care Act propose a process for how states can apply for Innovation Waivers

      Building on President Obama’s commitment to ensure states have the power and flexibility to innovate and implement the health care solutions that work best for them, the Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Treasury today proposed new rules outlining the steps states may pursue in order to receive a State Innovation Waiver under the Affordable Care Act.

      The Affordable Care Act gives states the flexibility to receive a State Innovation Waiver so they may pursue their own innovative strategies to ensure their residents have access to high quality, affordable health insurance. Under the law, State Innovation Waivers are available in 2017. President Obama supports bipartisan legislation that would make waivers available to states beginning in 2014.
      “Innovation Waivers empower states to take the lead on implementing the Affordable Care Act,” said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. “Today’s announcement demonstrates the flexibility available to states as they continue to move forward on fixing our broken health insurance marketplace.”

      State Innovation Waivers are designed to allow states to implement policies that differ from those in the Affordable Care Act so long as they:

      •Provide coverage that is at least as comprehensive as the coverage offered through Health Insurance Exchanges – new competitive, private health insurance marketplaces.
      •Make coverage at least as affordable as it would have been through the Exchanges.
      •Provide coverage to at least as many residents as otherwise would have been covered under the Affordable Care Act.
      •Do not increase the federal deficit.

      http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/03/20110310a.html

      This administration is bloody brilliant. That is why I paid the poutragers no mind when they constantly throw the public option into the mix of any I am disappointed in Obama because . . . . . . meme of the day. Completely ignoring this element of the plan announced months ago. If they listened they would have known that PO paved the way for the public option and they can now connect with their state and local government to lobby for it.

      Video of PO explaining this move found here

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2011/02/28/president-obama-and-vice-president-biden-address-national-governor

      The President and Vice President speak to the Nation’s governors, talking about their plans to work with the states to help advance the President’s goal of winning the future. The President also announces a proposal to move up the date when states are allowed to implement their own health care plans as long as they meet the standards for affordability and coverage under the Affordable Care Act to 2014.

  20. November 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    I love following Al Jazeera English on Twitter: interesting articles all the time.

    AJEnglish Al Jazeera English
    Challenging #China’s ambitions in a region it sees as its backyard, #Obama decides to lead the #US to the east http://aje.me/su8JdB
    21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    • 76 theo67
      November 21, 2011 at 12:22 am

      The way the President has coordinated this China strategy has been a work of art and patience. Remember, the first place Sec Clinton visited was China, and the whole world was shocked that the US was putting Asia ahead of Europe. I guess this is the result of being able to look further than the next five minutes when strategizing. He’s brilliant.

  21. November 20, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    According to CNN- mayor bloomberg will be having a terror news conference at 7:30pm.

    I don’t know what this is, but he sure likes the tv!

  22. November 20, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    President Obama to visit Central High School in Manchester on Tuesday

    Published Nov 18, 2011 at 10:32 am (Updated Nov 18, 2011)     ShareThis

    EDUCATION PLAN – Ill. Sen. Barack Obama and Democratic Party presidential hopeful, greets supporters after he delivered a policy speech on his plans for education reform at Manchester’s Central High School on Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2007.
    (Bob LaPree)

    MANCHESTER – President Barack Obama will visit Central High School on Tuesday, according to school officials.

    Tracy Mancuso, administrative assistant to Superintendent Dr. Thomas Brennan, confirmed the President’s visit. She said Brennan had her notify the Board of School Committee Thursday night of the Presidential visit to Central but she said details of his visit are not available as of yet.

    The Little Green, the high school’s newspaper, was first to break the news of the President’s visit in a mass email to faculty and students as well as the media.

    The White House last week announced the President will be visiting New Hampshire on Tuesday but released no other details.

    Obama visited the high school back in 2007 when he was running for President.

    It will be the first time a sitting president has visited the school.

  23. November 20, 2011 at 6:39 pm

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  24. 88 Fred
    November 20, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    good grief Tiger Woods won something.He clinched the Presidential Cup for the US :shock:

  25. 93 hopefruit2
    November 20, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    For all the people who believe that FLOTUS shouldn’t have attended the NASCAR event – I appreciate your take on this but respectfully disagree. This was a sporting event, not a KKK/ white supremacist gathering, or a GOP political event. The last time I checked people of all stars and stripes are welcome to attend all nationally televised sporting events, and the First Lady was there to garner support for military families (who I would imagine are fairly well- represented among the NASCAR fan base). She was not at the event to discuss the Bush tax cuts, abortion, DOMA gun control or some politically controversial issue.

      • November 20, 2011 at 6:58 pm

        So agree also. It’s like when they kept harping that PBO was over exposed. On TV too much. He’s the frickin President! He calls the damn shots. He can be on TV whenever he wants. He can go whereever he wants. FLOTUS AND Dr. Biden can go wherever they want.

        Sick of these bigots and t-pty racists thinking they can run this country and turn us back to the last century.

        America elected a black man who has a black wife. They’re smart and they’re getting the job done.

        Get the fuck over it.

    • 96 utaustinliberal
      November 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm

      Right on Hopefruit. Right on.

    • November 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm

      I don’t understand that argument at all.. So she should only go to Dem-leaning/friendly areas to show her support of troops? Aren’t there rednecks who have family who are in the military. Is it only Dem-leaning military communities that deserve the support and presence of FLOTUS. Come on now.

      Please as soon as FLOUTS or POTUS started only going to friendly military communities, then every damn body will be complaining about POTUS not being supportive of ALL military family. And the complaints would come from both sides of the spectrum Dem & GOP and we all know it.

    • 98 nathkatun7
      November 21, 2011 at 5:53 am

      Absolutely well said, hopefruit! I also believe that FLOTUS is traditionary expected to receive civil reception even though people in the audience may oppose POTUS policies. The fact that her appearance had to do with promoting the well being of the people in the military and their families, as well as the well being of veterans and their families, should have been an indictor that FLOTUS was focused on helping people in the military who have served and sacrificed so much. IMHO, FLOTUS should have attended the NASCAR evewnt

  26. 100 Little Lulu
    November 20, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    I find it nothing short of amazing that PBO’s approval ratings are on the rise even though he’s basically INVISIBLE in this country. Seriously. I’ve been in this country for 61 years and I don’t remember one president that got NO coverage on TV while traveling overseas and signing agreements to create over 100k jobs. It’s simply stupefying (literally) the lengths the MSM goes to to keep this president under wraps. And still, the people in this country find a way to see what he’s doing and thus they approve. This blog is a big, big, big help and the current crop of GOP dolts are helping quite a bit, too. I cannot wait for the upcoming debates when PBO will be in full view once again. Talk about hope and change! Man! It will be like a fountain of water in the desert.

    OBAMA/BIDEN AND DEMOCRATIC MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS!!!!! Fired up and more than ready to GOT!!!!

    • November 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm

      This,
      President Obama will have 2 terms. The chinese astrologers already said he will have a great influence on the international stage. I did not believe it when I read it in 2007 but now I strongly believe there were right. Lets keep our eye on in re-electing him. The beltway hates becoz of the Clinton’s and the fact that he does not play their games.

    • 103 hopefruit2
      November 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm

      “he’s basically INVISIBLE in this country”

      Actually I don’t think so. That’s what the MSM would LIKE to be the case. But I believe that the opposite is true. PBO is actually very visible and the media is obsessed with him in a love-hate unhealthy way. But the public is becoming increasingly less trusting of the media – particularly where President Obama is concerned. Furthermore, the international media is FAR more objective and PBO is highly visible in international circles. Other than that I agree with everything you’ve said!. :)

      Just for some perspective: PBO has over 11 million followers on Twitter. The GOP front runner Mitt Romney set a goal to reach 200k followers by Thanksgiving.

      • November 20, 2011 at 7:07 pm

        People distrust the Media since we were lied into a war and the way they treat this president.

      • November 21, 2011 at 12:42 am

        Especially visiable if you’re fortunate enough to read theobamadiary and/or get updates from the White House. Then he’s not only visible but it’s a reality visibility. :P

        He really can’t read all 11 million tweets now can he?!

    • November 20, 2011 at 7:32 pm

      The strangely limited coverage could prove absolutely fatal to both the 24-hour news channels as well as the major networks. And by fatal, I mean they may well find themselves relentlessly hammered and even destroyed by a rapidly emerging set of competitors.

      More on this later. But to be blunt, it’s not so much about political leanings. It’s the question of whether they are perceived as strongly negative, clearly unfair and/or muting coverage of a still very personally popular African-American President.

      Regardless of your political perspectives, such a widespread perception could turn an already dire threat to these companies into mortal peril.

      • November 20, 2011 at 7:54 pm

        Ralph,
        it has been severely negative and they mute him when he is abroad. We are paying attention.

      • November 21, 2011 at 12:51 am

        Hi Ralph Cerchione, this is what I’ve been hoping and wishing for! I would love to hear more on this later. Thanks.

        The owners/presidents/whatever at the news stations who are doing a black out and nothing but negative, unfounded spin on this President deserve the mortal peril that should come to their corporations!

  27. November 20, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    U.S. soldiers mark last Thanksgiving in Iraq

    US soldiers gathered for an early Thanksgiving dinner on Sunday due to an impending switch to field rations at a base near Baghdad, saying they are glad they will soon be going home. The official Thanksgiving holiday in the United States is later this week, but the last “dining facility,” or DFAC, at the sprawling Victory Base Complex (VBC) on Baghdad’s outskirts closed on Sunday, as US forces prepare to depart.

    Soldiers and contractors, about 6,600 of whom are still at VBC, dined at tables decorated with colourful paper turkeys and “Happy Thanksgiving” signs hanging overhead. “We’re going to do the Thanksgiving meal here today instead of on Thursday, because we’re closing out,” said 38-year-old Staff Sergeant Christopher Quimbly, the DFAC manager.

    ~snip~

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/20/u-s-soldiers-mark-last-thanksgiving-in-iraq/

  28. November 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    For those who think that FLOTUS shouldn’t have gone to NASCAR, I respectfully disagree.

    I remember as a kid being told because i was black, I should stay away from certain neighborhoods because I wouldn’t be well received because of my color. This is not how we should be living our lives in 2011 especially the First Lady of the united states.

    In 2011 No one should be dissuaded from participating or going anywhere because of their race. Imagine if this president thought this way, he would have never dared to go to Iowa, but he did and doing so he won over hearts and minds and won the Iowa caucus.

    Flotus and Dr. Biden have dignity and class and no booing from people with a mental defect can put a chink in their armour.

  29. 112 Left-Indie
    November 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Chris is no enemy. Everytime I see him, he is beating up one of the clown repugs. Now and then he says something hot headed about Obama. Whatever. Most of the time I’m glad he is there. Same with Rachel and ED and this new kid Hayes and Lawrence and Martin Basheer. My point is there are so many channels of republican hate that I appreciate any liberal leaning talker. When was the last time you braved the AM radio airwaves. Yikes! Fox is everywhere, including at my dentists office (I complained & got it changed) and at a nearby Mcdonalds. We should nudge our talkers, not blast them with bunch of reactive hate. We should correct them with evidence, not label them “racist” or “as bad as Fox” and so on. Mi dos centos.

    • 113 hopefruit2
      November 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm

      Chris Matthews voted for GWB TWICE, and had Phil Donahue fired from NBC because he dared to criticize Bush on the Iraq war. And you say that Chris is no enemy who is always beating up one of the clown repugs?!?!?

      For the past month he has been on a constant anti-Obama scene and it’s now escalating into personal territory (FLOTUS and kids) with racial undertones (no gratitude, not connecting, etc). His criticisms of PBO are petty, not based in any substantive fact and are unrelated to policy – foreign or domestic.

      He is getting paid millions of dollars – the least he could show for this outrageously high salary is to practice a bit of journalistic integrity.

      • 114 ChristiMtl
        November 20, 2011 at 7:28 pm

        I so agree with you hopefruit2…………I didn’t even know that he voted for Bush twice, I learned it yesterday….actually I learned a lot about him yesterday that I didn’t know.

        Sorry but Chris Matthews is no better than any of the clowns at Fox and CNN….no difference….it’s not because he goes after the GOP sometimes that he is not an ”enemy”…..Joe Scarborough goes after the GOP as well…….

        He is a LIAR,…

      • 115 FiredUpInCA
        November 20, 2011 at 7:41 pm

        When rabid right-wingers fabricated and pushed the meme that the First Lady is angry we correctly identified them as enemies. So why should I call Chris Matthews a friend when he fabricates and pushes the meme that the First Lady is unhappy in the White House; that she hasn’t done anything but talk about obesity (NASCAR puts a lie to that meme); that she and the President are ungrateful.

        There’s nothing to gain from a pandering, attention-seeking, fairweather friend like Chris Matthews. His rant was undisciplined, fact-free and irresponsible.

      • November 20, 2011 at 7:58 pm

        The fact that he had Donahue fired due to jealous by someone who admired him shows the power of CM. So he is no friend to POTUS.

    • 118 anniebella
      November 20, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      Left-Indie, all I can say is we agree to disagree. Because I will never have any use for that sick S.O.B bastard Chris Matthews again.

    • 119 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      November 21, 2011 at 12:03 am

      I’m sorry Indie you are very naive or a staunch Clintonite. The TV people you mention are not PBO supporters and if the truth be told they are not real progressives. HONESTLY!! :roll:

    • November 21, 2011 at 1:11 am

      I disagree. Tweety is a bloviating gasbag who has decent days when he actually calls someone out who needs, IOW, reality based. But, he went too far with his ugly disingenuous smear campaign against the First Lady. “All she does is obesity”? WTF, tweety! I’ve read he said something about the kids too but I won’t listen to him so I don’t know what. But, imv, he needs to stfu when selling his stuipd book about JFK because all he’s done is smear PBO in the process..My President ,who’s done everything to help me and my country even before he was in Office.

      Tweety’s a slick little profiteering enemy like Michael Moore.

  30. November 20, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    In order for a society to function, there has to be a certain level of trust. Each day when we leave our homes, we take for granted that most people are not going to attack us for no reason, that there will only be isolated incidents of theft in our community and that rioting and violence are not going to erupt in the streets. Whether we realize it or not, we depend on the fact that the vast majority of the people around us are going to act in a civilized manner. Unfortunately, the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted is starting to disappear. When I was growing up, I was taught that challenging times reveal our true character.

    There are many that believe that the declining economy is causing a lot of the chaos that we are now witnessing, but perhaps what is going on is that these challenging economic times are simply revealing the character that has been there all along. For decades, a “false prosperity” that was fueled by unprecedented amounts of debt has masked a lot of the internal rot that has taken hold in America. But now that our prosperity is crumbling, our lack of values is becoming startlingly clear.

    Greed, corruption and extreme self-centeredness have deeply infected our society. We see this on Wall Street and in Congress, and we see this among those that are trying to survive on the mean streets of our largest cities. Our nation is breaking down on every level. If by some miracle we were able to fix our economy, that would mask our problems for a while, but it would not solve them.

    ~snip~

    http://www.yolohub.com/economy/22-signs-that-the-thin-veneer-of-civilization-that-we-all-take-for-granted-is-starting-to-disappear

  31. 122 hopefruit2
    November 20, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Breaking News: Romney blames Obama for supercomittee failure.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/11/20/romney-blames-obama-for-supercommittee-failure/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Breaking news: A dog has four legs. Stay tuned for details at 10PM

  32. November 20, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    At 70 the founder of Crestron Electronics—maker of myriad home automation devices—is as fit and energetic as a man half his age. He’s also a tireless tinkerer, with 14 patents to his name. His latest project—a more efficient humidifier—has been in the works for over a year. Typical evaporative humidifiers require water tanks (breeding grounds for bacteria), while the steam-injection variety gobble electricity. So Feldstein invented a system that pressurizes a small amount of water and pushes it through tiny nozzles, atomizing it into vapor. When he tested it in his home last winter, the mist left a dusting of salt all over the furniture. (“My wife nearly threw me out,” he says.) With any luck the boss’ latest invention will hit the market next year. Feldstein doesn’t just create gad­gets—he creates jobs. As protesters, pundits and politicians bemoan corporate America’s addiction to cheap overseas labor (the manufacturing sector now employs 11.8 million people, down nearly 40% in three decades), Crestron has added 500 people—20% of the company’s workforce—in the last five years.

    ~snip~

    This isn’t about patriotism—it’s about strategy. By manufacturing 80% of his products—1,500 in all—in the U.S., Feldstein says he is able to build technologically complex devices in low quantities with few errors. Hiring at home also allows him to develop the kind of long-term, committed help he needs to keep expanding. Even with the company’s latest growth spurt, Feldstein estimates around 15% of his workforce has been on staff for at least a decade. “We bring in people, and we give them a profession,” he says. “It’s one of the most important things about a job: It should provide a career for people who want them.” And by keeping Crestron privately held, Feldstein doesn’t have to answer to pesky analysts and shareholders who might have him cut costs by shipping production overseas.

    ~snip~

    http://www.yolohub.com/economy/all-american-company-hiring-only-in-the-u-s

  33. 131 Bobfr
    November 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    Count down to #FOXNEWSTAINERS demanding an apology from NASCAR to First Lady Obama – 300000000, 2999999999, 2999999998 …. years ….

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    Well we knew the #KOCHMAFIAGOP #teabagger minions were hateful racists & they proved it. I’m sure #FOXNEWSTAINERS will demand apology, NOT!

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    So, the First Lady attends an event to honor the troops & gets booed by #teabaggers. Leaves nothing to question about their HATEFUL RACISM.

    Donation given.

    #PRESSON

    • 132 COS
      November 20, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      I see Yahoo already has a story on PBOP and DR. Biden getting boos, although the media did a piss poor job of covering PBO’s trip abroad. I am sure this will be the talking head story of the week next week. Not one word was mentioned about PBO’s trip on the NBC nightly news, but they did a big report on pandas. Go figure.

  34. November 20, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    :lol: hehe…watching ESPN & ESPN News and they are EMBARRASSED by the ugly behavior of that NASCAR crowd…apparently the same knuckle-
    draggers who go to t-bag debates to boo gay soliders and cheer for letting people die without healthcare are the same ones who go to
    NASCAR events..It says a lot more about them when they live up to their WORST STEREOTYPES in front of the entire world..

    • 135 Fred
      November 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      hiya Rock;good to see you around and yes they should be embarrassed but then again these folks are predictable and it only reflects badly on them;not FLOTUS and 2nd Lady

    • 136 AJ
      November 20, 2011 at 7:38 pm

      Thanks for that info, Rock…I tend not to watch ESPN unless Mr. AJ has it on in the background. Glad to know the sportscasters are embarressed for by that behavior. PS: I have no idea why my Gravitar changed…I had a lovely olive snowflake. Oh well…purple’s fine too. ;)

    • 139 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 20, 2011 at 7:43 pm

      Thanks for the info, Rock. And, thanks for all the support on Twitter!!

      #YesWeCanDOMoreTogether

    • 140 dotster3
      November 20, 2011 at 8:11 pm

      It was boorish, embarrassing behavior, but I don’t like some of the tweets I’m seeing. Hateful condemning of the that whole crowd when I suspect a small minority were booing. I want our side to be better than that and not react that way. The Obamas have made great inroads in previously unfriendly commnunities, and I want that to continue. And I keep thinking about the way President Obama would respond to this kind of situation, and it wouldn’t be to respond with a hateful reaction.

    • 144 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      November 20, 2011 at 8:45 pm

      Good to hear that Rock.

    • November 20, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      Thanks for that Rock – and thanks for the epic work you do on Twitter. Love ya!

    • November 21, 2011 at 1:19 am

      Thanks Rock..what they say for you to know they’re embarrassed, as anyone with a brain would be, by the ugly behavior?

  35. 147 ChristiMtl
    November 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Grover Norquist on 60 minutes

  36. 148 Ladyhawke
    November 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    60 MINUTES

    IS DOING A SEGMENT ON GROVER NORQUIST TONIGHT.

  37. November 20, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    TOD~ This year during the holiday can we consider an “Adopt-A-Voter” strategy, which would entail committing to help someone to obtain identification so that he/she can register AND vote! Just a thought…

    • 152 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm

      I like this very much, creolechild!

      As you know, I’ve written the President on two occasions requesting that he authorize the State Department to wave the fee for a US Passport for any citizen whom will be 18 by 6 Nov 2012. I intend to file that request several more times.

      In the meantime, if we had a way to identify people who need a valid photo ID, I would commit to donating sufficient funds to cover 10 US Passports.

      #YesWeCanDOMoreTogether

      • 153 Judith Fardig
        November 20, 2011 at 10:08 pm

        Bobfr, have you put this idea as a petition on We The People on the White House web site? We could all sign it.

      • November 21, 2011 at 8:52 am

        Bobfr~ Thank you! You have such a generous and compassionate spirit. You might consider sending Judith Browne-Dianis a brief note explaining what you’d like to do. She should be able to point you in the right direction. The staff at The Advancement Project has considerable experience, and an amazing track record of successes, related to the work they did in 2008.

        “In 2008, the Voter Protection Program team worked tirelessly in states across the country [Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia] to support our local partners on the ground working to increase voter registration and participation among traditionally disenfranchised populations. Key successes are highlighted below by state:

        Colorado – Voter registration lists, also called voter rolls, are the gateway to voting. Purges, if done properly, are an important way to ensure that voter rolls are dependable, accurate, and up-to-date. Far too frequently however, eligible, registered citizens show up to vote and discover their names have been removed from the voter lists. States maintain voter rolls in an inconsistent and unaccountable manner. Officials strike voters from the rolls through a process that is shrouded in secrecy, prone to error, and vulnerable to manipulation. Within days of a NY Times expose about purges, Advancement Project successfully sued, Colorado Secretary of State, Mike Coffman, challenging illegal purges and cancellation practices that removed up to 30,000 voters from Colorado’s rolls.

        ~snip~

        http://www.advancementproject.org/our-work/voter-protection/victories

    • November 20, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      That’s a great idea creolechild. RT Ryback (mayor of MPLS) also gave us an idea that I thought was good too. He suggested that we all find 10 people in our lives and make those 10 people our personal campaign.

  38. 157 dotster3
    November 20, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    60 Minutes is exposing Grover Norquis for the devious, corporate/billionaire-backed skunk that he is. Hooray

  39. November 20, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Ooops forgot to sign in before I posted a comment.

  40. 164 Mary Gray
    November 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    oops Chipsticks, didn’t note your $$ page and went to BWD. Looks like PBO lucks out as I have to donate to you too!!!!

  41. 165 vero804
    November 20, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    My 2 cents on FLOTUS getting booed and the idiot with a happy middle finger…. I’m not surprised. I think all of us who read that she was going braced ourselves for the possible negative reception. While I’m happy she went since she should try and get her message everywhere, I think a more controlled venue would’ve been better. Now, the story isn’t about the message, but about the audience – the booers and the happy middle finger guy. I do not see the benefit for FLOTUS’s image or her military initiative by being booed. This is just a distraction now.

    Having said that, I do not think she should go to only Dem friendly places…heck her entire military mission is not Dem-friendly. However, IMO, a prudent political adviser tries to minimize the chances of an embarrassment or mishap for her. This was a minefield.

    At the end of the day, the booers and the other guy are in the wrong, everyone will see them for the hateful idiots they are, so in the long run, I think it’s a good thing. Just not right now – at this re-election time.

    This is just my 2 cents.

    • 166 nospin
      November 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      vero804 – did you really mean to say that FLOTUS can go to any venue she chooses BUT NOT right now? That handlers should be “prudent” and make sure that FLOTUS should not enter places where she may not be wanted. And your perspective is that while the military initiative is a good cause, having FLOTUS go to places like NASCAR where she may not be accepted causes an unnecessary distraction that could lead to embarrassment or a mishap and oh by the way it may not provide a good photo op. And only going to places and doing things that make for a great photo op is really really really important especially now that it is time for re-election.

      See.. . . . now I am insulted. This is a good time for me to log off.

      Good night everybody.

      • 167 vero804
        November 20, 2011 at 9:01 pm

        Wow…you are insulted? I certainly had no intention of insulting anyone, that’s for sure. I will be the first to say that my take is cynical. But that’s how I see this. I don’t see any benefit to FLOTUS appearing at a Nascar race. She has obviously coordinated with them on her military family initiative for quite some time now, so I don’t think her appearance at a race was required.

        All I know is this evening, I come home, read 2 threads devoted to the booing on this blog alone, look on twitter and facebook – it’s all about is booing. It is not me who is pushing this story out. I haven’t linked this story on my FB or twitter. I am just reading it everywhere. I can’t believe this is what FLOTUS wanted from her appearance. But that’s what has happened. I am only saying that if I were to weigh the cost and benefit of her going there, I would have said it’s not worth it, given the likelihood of a reception like the one she received. As someone said upthread, the boos were not numerous, but neither were the claps for letting an uninsured guy die, or the boos to the gay soldier during the GOP debates.

        • 168 Dave
          November 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm

          I’m a middle-aged white man (not flabby thankgawd!) but I’m sorry, MOST attacks on FLOTUS are PURE RACISM. I’m sorry, I really believe that. There are always understandable philosophical and political arguments against every president as there should be. but there’s no adult, reasonable way any one can object to what this bright, wonderful and unique woman has been tirelessly been doing in her capacity as a truly important symbol to our nation. Of course she has made great practical contributions beyond symbolism. But the symbolism means a lot and we all know that. Am I preaching? Sorry!

          • November 20, 2011 at 9:27 pm

            Dave, couldn’t agree with you more. You expect a President – any President – to be booed by some in a large crowd who hate his politics, but booing Michelle Obama? No one will convince me it’s about anything other than you said. How could anyone hate her, of all people, enough to do that??

        • November 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm

          Nope. I disagree. FLOTUS should be respected wherever she goes. She should not be required to pick and choose venues when her work is for the betterment of all Americans, especially our troops and their families. How many times did Laura Bush have to choose not go somewhere for fear of being booed? Let the WORLD see exactly what the First Lady and the President must content with here. I am glad the covers are being pulled off. Did people really think that this would not happen? Really? I’m surprised it hasn’t happened before now. Every once in a while I’ll read an article that’s been linked to on a rightwing site. What they say about the First Lady and names they call her are past disgusting. Too many people have their heads in the sand. Pull them out and look at your fellow citizens.

    • November 20, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      But what about her central mission of rallying support especially for veterans returning home NOW? Have our military troops not suffered enough from conservative jingoism that waves flags & yellow ribbons but does SQUAT fro the people who actually fight and die in our wars? You want the First Lady to rally support for veterans only in venues where they serve as a useful re-election campaign prop?

      You view is truly a sad one. That’s the most charitable thing I can say.

      • 172 vero804
        November 20, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        Well, no need to be charitable. This is my view on this issue. I don’t think Michelle Obama had to go to a Nascar race to help the military and their families. She’s been doing it for 3 years now – successfully – without doing something like this.

        • November 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm

          Excuse me.? Your view is respected, but let us be clear, First Lady Michelle Obama does not need to choose not to go to Nascar just because some hateful, vile mannered people are going to be there. You must understand, we had to do that for so many ugly years, and now our First Lady has to go to the chosen “back entrances” side windows or non white venues because of who she is(oh yes, that is the real reason) . Hell no, we are not hiding this First Lady, not now not ever. So let the haters( that is who and what they are ) deal with. If this is how they choose to, then we will choose the method that our First Lady is due. RESPECT in AMERICA.

          These people booed a military person serving these fools. Come on now. Let us be reasonable.HZ

        • 174 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          November 21, 2011 at 12:16 am

          vero I am disappointed in your opinion. The Obamas serve all our nation not just Democratic and progessive leaning constituents. There are Teabagger and Rethug military personnel and families as well. Have you not listened to anything the President has said over the last 4 years? Obama/Biden 2012

      • November 20, 2011 at 9:09 pm

        Zizi,
        Agree. FLOTUS is doing his to get the military exposure so they can well taken care of including jobs and mental issues. This is not about campaigning. I am disappointed in this cynical view at this time. Guys there are trying to make america better and to show that we should take of another as this has been missing in the last 30 years.

      • 178 utaustinliberal
        November 20, 2011 at 9:15 pm

        Completely concur zizi. Nailed it in one.

    • 179 Janelle
      November 20, 2011 at 9:09 pm

      I disagree. This initiative is being set up to extend through subsequent administrations and events are planned throughout the year in various venues and people expect her to appear. It would have made news if Dr. Biden came and she didn’t as if she were avoiding people. The military families deserve her presence whether we’re headed into an election year or not. Her childhood obesity and joining forces initiatives should not be partisan. She was not fundraising or campaigning. This does not make FLOTUS look bad at all…she appears more gracious, courageous, and strong, especially to other women. I admire her even more today, if it was possible not to love her already to the max. I can tell from the pictures, and you can’t fake those photos today, that being with these families means a lot to the First Lady and gives her energy to continue. And who’s to say that some staff didn’t want her to go. Something tells me our FLOTUS wanted to be there. The time she spent going from table to table and being kind and geniune far outweighed any negative.

      • 181 vero804
        November 20, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        Thanks for your measured and respectful response to me – even in disagreement. I can understand your perspective, especially since it is something that subsequent administrations are to follow.

        Maybe one of the reasons for my view on this is because I expected this venue to be difficult. When I read that she’d make an appearance, I had a bad feeling. And I guess hearing that there were boos sadly validated my feelings. And that’s disappointing. I’m not surprised she was gracious and happy to be amongst the people, and I do believe the cause has been helped. Still, from a purely political perspective – and yes I believe FLOTUS and POTUS think politics a lot – I’m not too sure about the choice.

        • 182 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          November 21, 2011 at 12:21 am

          I am shocked at your nearsightedness on this issue vero. :shock: Some issues trump politics, like saving our military families from NEGLECT!!

      • 184 utaustinliberal
        November 20, 2011 at 9:26 pm

        Brilliantly stated Janelle. To say that FLOTUS should only stick to events that make for a good photo-op because it is an election year is not only cynical; it’s pure bull-puckey. Her Joining Forces initiative is not about a photo-op. It’s about waking national consciousness in the nation about the sacrifices of our men and women in uniform and their families. It’s not about sticking to true blue or purplish states because it’s comforting or she’ll have a wonderful reception. Her Joining Forces and Let’s Move initiatives are not frivolous campaigns for a popularity contest. They are initiatives she takes very very seriously. I’m glad she went to NASCAR. She showed everyone that this is about the military, not whether the audience likes her or not.

        Once again, brilliant commentary Janelle.

      • November 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

        Just brilliant, Janelle. I completely accept the argument that lots have made about this, there shouldn’t be any ‘no go’ areas in America for the President and First Lady, whoever they are, but my earlier anger was about her having to attend an event where it was inevitable she would receive a hostile reception from a section of the crowd, and I just felt she should never have been subjected to that.

        But you’re so right, her handling of it all just oozed class and strength – like you, I thought I couldn’t admire her more than I already did, but I do after this. I’d imagine she has endured this kind of thing many, many times in her life, if not – obviously – on the same scale, so I’ll just hope that she anticipated it, that it came as no surprise at all. Fortunately for her husband – and America – she’s waaaaaay stronger than me! She’s amazing.

        Thanks Janelle.

        • 186 vero804
          November 20, 2011 at 9:58 pm

          Your earlier anger mirrors my feelings too when I wrote my initial comment. I wish she hadn’t gone and been subjected to such ignorance – I’m not sure it was necessary. However, I think folks are right – she did the right thing, did her job, and handled everything with style and grace. It is the losers who booed that will regret their behavior.

          • November 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm

            You’re my identical twin on this, Vero. I went from rage about it all, to feeling ‘well, okay, they’ve shown themselves for what they are’ – and it’s always good when a light is shone on something ugly so everyone can see. It still breaks my heart that she had to endure it, but as I said earlier, I have absolutely no doubt that she’s a stronger woman than me! Thanks Vero.

        • November 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm

          Thank you Chipsticks. I wrote a comment to someone else on this thread and it went to heaven. I took that as not to be shared at this time.

          Our First Lady does NOT have to go to “back entrances” side windows, and for Colored People Only”, yes, I said it ,and I mean it. We need to stop it and ENOUGH is ENOUGH.

          My hearts desire is that “the young, brilliant, and nontolerance for this type of behavior will Rise Up and work to stop this type of behavior and say, ” We Will Not Stand By and Let This Destroy This Nation.” Educate yourselves, mix up the melting pot with all of the pure sweetness and goodness that can be extracted from your totaly being, and Change the Hell Out of This Nation, Once and for all.HZ

        • 191 Janelle
          November 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm

          No, thank you Chips, for all you do to keep us informed. Don’t get me wrong, it hurt me deep in the gut to hear about this today, truly. But I did some thinking so that the hurt could pass more quickly and not eat me up. I thought about all the PSAs she’s done with NASCAR, how NASCAR is big with the military, NASCAR events being held at the WH, a NASCAR person on the President’s council I believe and I just knew that the First Lady would be at a live NASCAR event soon. If you notice, she does live events with organizations that have joined her initiatives (e.g., tennis recently). I think she had to know that this was possible at NASCAR, even if one wishes it wouldn’t happen and it may sting, I don’t think the hurt is permanent. I don’t know about anyone else, but I can’t wait to read her memoirs after 2016 and I hope she makes millions….she deserves it!

    • 192 L3
      November 20, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      I understand that point of view but black people would never have achieved anything in this country had we adopted it. PBO wouldn’t even be president. The Whitehouse staff is not naive. You don’t support the troops just when it’s politically convenient or aesthetically pleasing, the way Republicans do, you support them anywhere and everywhere all the time. For sensible people this will work to the First Lady’s favor and for those that see it as an embarrassment to her rather than NASCAR, most of them are beyond reach anyway.

      Years ago my younger sister and I were having a conversation about racism in which she paraphrased a quote, “Black people see racism in everything and white people don’t see it at all.” I know it’s an oversimplification of a complicated issue and I don’t want to offend but what it illustrated to me is that when you’re black sometimes it can be virtually impossible to know if the slights you face are just typical rude behavior or if they’re racially motivated because that is often the way many white people rationalize behavior we may view as racist. I believe the presidency of Barack Obama has been a revelation for many white people in this country and a disappointing reaffirmation for many black people that if the President of the United States can be subjected to what can only be described as breathtaking racism and disrespect on an almost daily basis, just think what the average black person endures everyday. Black people are not imagining racism. PBO’s presidency has literally ripped the sheets off and it’s there in all its hideousness for the world to see.

      While unfortunate, I think this may provide an opportunity for people who are on the fence about which side they are going to take in what will be a titanic struggle to determine what kind of country we want to live in. I don’t believe this election is going to be close. There are Republicans who are appalled at what their party has become and many of them will be voting for PBO not because they agree with his policies but because they disagree with their party and incidents like what happen to the First Lady, the debt ceiling debacle, the Norquist Pledge and on and on are adding up in the minds of these voters and at some point even they will have had enough and will vote accordingly. They may not even tell anyone they voted for PBO but in their heart they will know they did the only right and just thing to rehabilitate their party and more importantly preserve this country.

  42. November 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Apologize if I missed seeing this posted. It’s Rahm’s interview on This Week. He was fabulous.

    http://abcnews.go.com/thisweek

    • November 20, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      Thanks for posting it – he was great.

    • November 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

      It’s amusing to me how the media keep trying to get Democratic politicians, first PBO, now Rahm, if they stand in solidarity with OWS. But they never ask Republicans the same thing. Also love how Jay Carney dodged that question a couple weeks ago and now how Rahm totally dodged it today. The media simply isn’t going to succeed in getting very far with this tactic because the Dems are on to it.

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      Thanks for the link. Just listened to him. He was measured and on point.

  43. November 20, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    From my twitter timeline:

    RT @markknoller: Tomorow evening, Pres & Mrs Obama host another “In Performance at the White House” for a celebration of country music.

    RT @markknoller: Tomorrow’s show includes Lauren Alaina, Alison Krauss, Kris Kristofferson, Lyle Lovett, Mickey, Darius Rucker and James Taylor et al.

  44. 205 Dave
    November 20, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    In this wonderful community of TOD-ers, I’m sure there’s a psychologist that can help us understand far right-wing repugglian and Teabag group-think. I seem to vaguely remember from 101 that an idiot is more impaired than a moron and an imbecile is worse than an idiot? So, imbeciles? Then compounding that is a profoundly childish detachment from responsibility. They expect – – no demand massive and “flawless” government services yet pitch shrill and angry fits about helping to pay for them. We need better highways/my MONEY is MY MONEY! Talk about entitlement! And “unnecessary government spending” is inevitably services for the needs of Americans that are NOT LIKE THEM (according to them) and a small part of the budget anyway. Our great country has gone through a paradigm shift in the last 30-40 years and is a totally diverse and evolved nation of 320+ million people that are mostly NOT LIKE THEM. But they make a lot of noise and get most of the media coverage. The nasty brats in the sandbox that won’t share toys and bully the other kids.

    • November 20, 2011 at 9:45 pm

      PBO working his magic. This is seriously good news. Can’t begin to imagine how the President pulled that off.

      • 208 desertflower
        November 20, 2011 at 9:51 pm

        Waved his magic wand? :) He pulled it off with his intellect, I’m guessing. Just like he does everything else….so glad that this is good news! I have to say, I really don’t grasp this currency stuff like I wish I did.

    • 209 theo67
      November 21, 2011 at 12:58 am

      This Asian trip shook the Chinese to their core because it came as a shock to their perceived dominance in the region. There’s another article that I found that talks about how the 18 nation’s leaders confronted China, and then President Obama backed them up and reminded China that the US has a stake in the region’s security. Also, the Burma announcement shocked China because they’ve been cultivating that relationship for years while the US has been sanctioning Burma. They didn’t see this strategic move coming at all.

      It’s sad that most of the country doesn’t realize just how significant this Asian trip was, and how President Obama shifted the balance of power in just 9 days. As my sister said, “check mate”.

  45. 210 desertflower
    November 20, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Oh yea! These Repub contenders think they should be advised by the crazies that SHOULD be in jail!

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-18/bush-era-iraq-hawks-counsel-republican-presidential-hopefuls.html

  46. November 20, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Hey do you guys remember when we were talking the other day about that story of the Faribault Woolen Mills? (here’s the story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45169565/ns/nightly_news/#.TrcvXPT8WjM) We were all looking at the website and talking about what a great story it was. I had written a newsletter for work to encourage people to buy something from them. Well I happened to see that they have a temporary store set up in the Cities until January, so I went over there today to get something for my husband for Christmas and one of the cousins that bought the business was working the store! They just had opened it so they were still stocking and making sure the registers worked and everything. So I got to meet him and shake his hand and told him what a great thing he’d done for the city of Faribault. You could tell they were happy. So for those of you who were talking about it with me just a little happy update!

    • 215 desertflower
      November 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm

      Alice..that’s such great news! I posted that on TOD…and I knew that this was a great thing to share here….and pass around! It is a terrific thing they have done…I’m glad that they were happy…how else can we help them out? Good news! Thanks for sharing that.

      • November 20, 2011 at 10:19 pm

        they were so touched that we were all talking about it here – I really hope they make it. I really like the throw that I bought AND JUST GAVE to my husband. ….sigh….. I can’t keep a Christmas present that long!!!! :-)

    • November 20, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      Thanks so much for that follow-up!! I remember that story and felt moved by it. I’m in need of some good news at the moment.

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:11 pm

      Made in the US of A is always a good thing.

  47. November 20, 2011 at 9:58 pm
  48. November 20, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Folks……

    They are going to do this. Nothing would have stopped this. Anyone saying they shouldn’t have gone is surprisingly being a hypocrite. I’m sorry, but if you were so annoyed during the Bush years of how insulated and unaware President Bush was, yet opine that President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama should be insulated, you are a hypocrite. Yes, you are well intentioned, because no one wants to see the spouses, or children verbally abused and humiliated. But, thats the role of politics in this nation, and Mrs. Obama, Dr. Biden , their husbands and staff and campaign advisors and the like knew this would happen. That there would be people out there so consumed in their hatred and avarice of people they never ever met. This is what EVERY person of color faces and we have never hid yet. Why the hell should we start now? Barack and Michelle Obama are the first couple. He is the President of the United States of America and she is the First Lady of the United States of America. They represent ALL of the nation. He and she represents them as a nation as much as George and Laura Bush represented us as a nation. Why should we shield them from what they fear? I’m not scared, I’m damn proud. The footnotes of history will look at Michelle Obama as a champion and people like Kurt Busch as the incubus assholes that they are. Why should we be scared of that? 2012 election cycle is going to have plenty more of this. We should expect it and welcome it. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and damnit I’m hoping we can beam enough UV Rays to cause firestorms. I’m ready, and you should be too. Remember what Maya Angelou said 3 years ago.

    • 221 Dave
      November 20, 2011 at 10:20 pm

      And can I add that we’re talking about two very tough, resilient and focused people that I believe take all the ignorant crap in stride and let it roll off their backs. THEY ARE ON A MISSION. READ THE PRESIDENT’S BOOKS. Yes he’s “thoughtful and nuanced” but he’s a frikken TOUGH hombre too. SO IS SHE (tough CHICA!).

      Remember that previous oval office inhabitant (pest problem) that was PURE FAUX TOUGH? Born to privilege, daddy got him into the guard and out of the draft. PURE EMBARRASSMENT to our great nation with the pathetic, overcompensating swagger and smirking and: “LOOK AT ME. I’M prez, I’m ruff ‘n’ tuff!” “Boo.” Craps his pants and freezes up on 9/11/01 in front of the whole nation. i’m SORRY. We want to forget!

    • 223 jacquelineoboomer
      November 20, 2011 at 10:24 pm

      anotherslyfox – I will save Maya’s words for tomorrow. I can’t handle her words tonight – I don’t want to get all weepy (she’s my favorite poet ehvah!), but after reading your words, which were spectacular, I know we have our marching orders. Thank you.

      And if I had on bedroom slippers, I’d be flinging them off!

      I’m so proud, too!

      #PressOn

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm

      Thank you asf. i had forgotten the poem and watching this vid turned on my water works. i was really shocked at how young are President looked. GOD bless and keep him.

    • 225 utaustinliberal
      November 20, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      Brilliantly stated Chris. As an African-American Michelle like many of us African-Americans have faced hostile people. Every freaking day of our lives, some people try to treat us as inferior or interlopers. She’s the First Lady of the United States. She is well within her rights to go wherever the heck she pleases. A few boos are not going to destroy her. She grew up in a world where prejudiced people refused to give her, her just dues. She grew up in a world, where at Princeton, her white roommate’s mother found out her daughter was rooming with Michelle, an African-American and demanded a room change for her daughter. If you tell her not to appear at NASCAR, you are telling black people that we should shy away from tough situations just because ignorant people hate the color of our skin and can’t see past their blinkered hatred. Where the heck would we have been if we shied away, stayed at the back of the bus and didn’t fight and demand equal rights. This is what we face everyday of our lives. Walk a day in our shoes and see how bloody hard it is to continually have to work 100% harder than everyone around you to be taken seriously. But we do it; because we know who we are, we will not be defined by prejudiced people and we are damned proud to be African-Americans. I applaud her for going to NASCAR and if she’s invited again, I hope she holds her head high and goes again.

      • November 20, 2011 at 11:00 pm

        Yours is the best response to this I’ve seen so far, UT. Thank you! You’re absolutely correct. FLOTUS will NOT go to the back of the bus for anybody. Period.

      • 227 Betsy
        November 21, 2011 at 12:13 am

        I wonder what that mother thinks now? Her daughter could have become close friends with the First Lady of the US! It reminds me of what I tell my students. “Don’t bully anyone, because the kid you bully could one day be your boss, and it will not go well for your.”

  49. November 20, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    $500 added to BWD’s OFA fundraiser in the last couple of hours, you’re completely brilliant people.

    She’s just $320 short of her $10,000 target, if you can help push her over the line:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/2012/blackwaterdog

    Meanwhile, the TOD OFA fundraiser is just $80 short of its $5,000 target – crikey, I’m gobsmacked!

    Again, if you can help reach that target:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/2012/TheObamaDiary

    Sorry for all these Obama/Biden 2012 money requests, I’ll ease up after tonight – promise!

  50. 232 FTL
    November 20, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Good evening everyone. I just want to make a comment on FLOTUS getting booed. I have to say it makes me mad but I am from a small town in Alabama that is famous for locking up 9 black guys for false accusations of rape back in the 1930’s. I do get a little antsy when FLOTUS or PBO go into these areas but I know that everyone in these places are not like that and it would be a disservice to the ones who love them. I feel it is better to know who your enemy is. I would rather know who you are and where you are then be oblivious. Also there are still people out there who keep saying racism is over because PBO is President. Hopefully they can stop saying that silly shit and realize that it is not that easy and that most of the shit that is said and done is because PBO is black.

    • 233 jacquelineoboomer
      November 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm

      The words of everybody on here tonight are brilliant and much appreciated.

      I’m glad we’re ALL on PBO’s team!

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      Hi FTL. I’m from a small town in Alabama as well. Your sentiments are the same as mine! Today’s NASCAR event took the sheets off the heads of more than few more racist goons who might have hidden their true selves otherwise. And I agree that racism in not over because President Obama was elected. I’d go as far as saying it will never be over in this or any other country completely. However, that shouldn’t stop us from making progress. That shouldn’t stop this country from moving forward inspite of the racist attitudes of some.

      • 235 FTL
        November 20, 2011 at 11:00 pm

        Agreed newcenturywoman we should move forward. I also agree tha this stinking racism thing will not go away anytime soon, but that does not mean this country can’t be great.

  51. 236 desertflower
    November 20, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    And did the MSM cover the fact that this dreaded Libyan spy chief was captured today?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/20/us-libya-son-idUSTRE7AJ0EJ20111120

  52. November 20, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Now see, a Michigan poll came out today and it has Romney beating the president by 5. 46-41!
    This I do not understand, unless romneys roots their put this state in Play!

    I would also like to know crosstabs, as I doubt Romney picks up any votes in Detroit!

    Anyways…

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:53 pm

      I wouldn’t worry yourself Jovie, about a week ago PBO was beating Romney by +11 points in
      Michigan

      Also the news that Romney plans to issue seniors and vets voulchers has not hit main street yet.

    • November 20, 2011 at 11:16 pm

      That pollster always skews hard for the Republican. Romney can try to play off his roots, but his father was Gov a long time ago and I question how many in the State are still around – it was 40 years ago.

  53. 242 P
    November 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    I refuse to get into the Michelle and Jill boo discussion……..I’m sure Mrs Obama is just fine and solid as a rock and that’s what matters. I just came here to say HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN!!!!!! I love you and may you live to see many, many more happy years. All the best.
    Thanks again for all you to Chipsticks and goodnight TODers :D

  54. 243 LOL
    November 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Newsflash Fu&^tards…..We and the polls have been saying this foreveeeeeeeeer!!

    President Obama’s base of support remains solid heading into 2012

    Everyone knows that President Obama has a problem with his political base heading into 2012. Except that he doesn’t.

    One of the most persistent story lines for the president has been that the liberal left has grown increasingly dissatisfied with his actions (or inaction) on some of its priorities — including single-payer health insurance, the extension of the George W. Bush tax cuts and whether to close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    But an examination of the polling data among key subgroups that constitute Obama’s base makes clear that he has as much support from them as any modern president seeking a second term.

    “There is one immutable fact about President Obama’s reelection chances: Nobody has a more solid 44 percent base than he does,” Democratic pollster Peter Hart wrote in a not-entirely-uncritical memo assessing the state of political affairs a year out from the election.

    At the heart of the president’s enduring strength among his base are African Americans who have never wavered in any meaningful way after 95 percent of black voters opted for the Illinois senator in 2008.”

    Did you see that? Cilliza said “one of the most persistent story lines” as IF he were not apart of the peanut gallery spewing this crap.smh.

    Source http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-base-of-support-remains-solid-heading-into-2012/2011/11/20/gIQAj7K5fN_story.html?hpid=z3

    • 244 jacquelineoboomer
      November 20, 2011 at 10:52 pm

      We got this!!!!!

    • November 20, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      All they had to do was to ask TODers and we would have told them that old news.

    • 246 nospin
      November 21, 2011 at 2:58 pm

      “At the heart of the president’s enduring strength among his base are African Americans who have never wavered in any meaningful way after 95 percent of black voters opted for the Illinois senator in 2008.”

      THIS. And the more they disrespect the first family, the stronger we stand with him in solidarity. Why? We get it. Minorities understand clearly what this man is up against and still he perseveres despite the obstructionist. Black folk are not leaving this President period. That is why I didn’t really get side tracked with what happened at NASCAR. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised. FLOTUS received more support than I anticipated and that was a good thing. So whatever we are doing it is certainly working. My hope is we continue to build on that and get out of our comfort zones and press on.

      I have hope in this country and I know that even though some are tempted to pull us back to prior the 1960s there are almost 2/3rds of the US population who are determined to drag our country kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Nov 2012 will usher in a great season for the US. This is the time when citizens make their voices even more clear on which direction we will go as a nation. I am confident of the direction they will choose. Doesn’t mean we won’t have to work hard for PO’s re-election but Change already left the station 3 years ago and it is coming down harder and faster. Change IS coming so folks better hop on board or get out of the way.

      Go Obama/Biden 2012

  55. November 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    I just got back from volunteering…I am absolutely heart broken by the display of disrespect to our First Lady…
    My thoughts

    She Walks with class and grace….

    There’s a reminder of a painting at the white house of a little black girl with that same strength..

    She knows her past, her ancestors were..lynched, beaten, hung and bled for freedom…

    The Beauty of her strength was in display today…She smiled HA!!! You think a little Booing will tear me down?

    First Lady Michelle Obama ~ I love you

    • 249 Dave
      November 20, 2011 at 11:02 pm

      I know it’s hard but don’t let the ignorant crap get to you! WE ARE STRONG. The First Family IS STRONG. Hateful Imbeciles are just that.

  56. 250 Cos
    November 20, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    A little OT, but I am watching my recording of the “good wife” tv show from last Sun. and Chris Matthews is a guest on the show.

    • November 21, 2011 at 1:42 am

      Hi Cos, I saw that and mentioned something yesterday about whether the Producers were sorry they had him on? Because, they seem to like PObama a lot.

  57. 252 PurpleShoesLA
    November 20, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Good evening TOD peeps,

    Well, I have to say, this site has me programmed quite well. I’ve been out all day, and heard on the am radio station in my car, that our First Lady and our Second Lady were booed at Nascar. After inhaling and exhaling “Woosah”, several times, my next thought was “as soon as I get home, it’s time for another donation to the Obama Campaign”–I’ve left out all the expletives that were also included in my thought. :) So, now I’m home, logged on to TOD and BAM, there’s the moneybomb page! So I did my civic duty and donated to both pages. Thank you both for giving me an outlet to constructively express my rage and indignation. My own way of “flipping the bird” back at these cretins.

    On a more serious note, in reading everyone’s cathartic posts as they worked through the should FLOTUS/SLOTUS have attended or not and the negative fallout from said appearance, my thought is, If not now, then when? Someone above said it much more eloquently then I, but just think where our country would be today if all those that came before us that fought the good fight, chose NOT to for fear of the negative consequence (up to and including their personal safety and welfare). I do firmly believe that our country (hell maybe the entire globe) is on the brink of another “civil rights” movement, only this time the fight is going to be even uglier and harder because we are now digging deeper and pulling up the roots of institutional racism, sexism, economic and class warfare-ism; trying to eradicate the intolerance for various religious faiths, and just stamping out ignorance whereever it exists, once and for all. Scary times? Hell, yes. But I can’t think of anyone else I’d want leading the charge to drag this country (kicking and screaming) into adulthood and achieving its potential for goodness and greatness, then our president, first lady and VP Biden and our second lady. So rant, rail, ruminate, stew, do a little primal scream if you have to, and then let’s take a deep breath, and get to work getting our President and Vice President, re-elected. Yes, we god-damn CAN!!!

    Chips, a special thanks for your magnificent coverage on our Prez’s overseas trip!!!

  58. 253 carolyn
    November 20, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    I believe that today’s events will trigger millions in donations to the Obama Campaign. I just contributed to both BWD and TOD…..others are too. We are stronger than those who oppose, and I do believe that GOOD DOES OVERCOME EVIL. Love is stronger than hate…..we have many examples of this in history. And yes, as Justice Brandeis said sunlight is the best disinfectant.
    I have compared what is happening to a boil that is lanced…..it’s a horrible, putrid experience, but the only way to heal. I do believe we can work to heal the racism. I also believe that there was no way this horrible disease could be healed without the leadership and guidance of our President. I also believe the only way this disease could be healed is with an African American president, and the first AA president had to be Barack Obama, because he has in him the qualities that are admirable and right. This is not easy for those of us who love him, love our country, and detest the racism. But we will prevail.
    When he came to OKC in 2007 we went to see him, and a TV reporter asked me what I thought of him. I said that I believe he is the true heir of Abraham Lincoln, and I still do. Abraham Lincoln was reviled in horrible ways, but took it, and we know that without him we would not have our country. President Obama , I believe, will bring us to a better place, and in five years we will have purged some of this horror and be in a much better place.

  59. 255 Titti
    November 21, 2011 at 10:41 am

    People are scared of change but they better get used to it for the next 5 years at least coz ‘Change’ is here to stay – at least for the next few years.


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