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rise and sunday shine

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The Obama Holiday Letter: From my family to yours

On behalf of the entire Obama family, I’d like to wish you and your loved ones a happy and healthy holiday season. For us, the holidays are a chance to eat some good food, sing some holiday songs (occasionally out of tune), affirm our faith, and spend time with the family and friends who make our lives so blessed.

Over the past year, Sasha and Malia have continued to amaze Michelle and me with their steadiness and poise. One highlight was when Michelle and the girls accompanied me on my first official trip to South America as president. One evening, after a day of meetings and cultural programs, we visited the statue of Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro. As we stared up at this wonder of the modern world, I knew it was a moment the girls wouldn’t soon forget, particularly since it was one of the few times I didn’t have to remind them to turn off their iPods.

…. Michelle is doing well, and has been hitting the road almost as often as I have. In April, she and Dr. Jill Biden launched a partnership called “Joining Forces” to support our nation’s military families. She even appeared on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition to build a brand new house for Barbara Marshall, a 15-year Navy Veteran. And for a second year, her Let’s Move! campaign got children excited about healthy eating and exercise.

When I see Michelle standing with a proud military family, or leading kids in jumping jacks on the White House lawn, it reminds me how lucky I am to have her. People always tell me I “married up,” and I couldn’t agree more.

More here

Thanks Dotster

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In case you missed this video, which I added late to the post below, have a look. I love this fella. If you have a chance, leave a nice message for him under the video at YouTube:

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Morning everyone. Will catch up with you all later, meanwhile: chat away ;-)


409 Responses to “rise and sunday shine”


  1. 1 nintendowii10
    November 27, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Good morning ALL!

  2. November 27, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Echoing a Reuters report on Friday from Brussels, the Sunday newspaper said the French and German leaders were prepared to back a deal with other euro countries that might induce the ECB to intervene more forcefully to calm the euro debt crisis.
    The newspaper report quoted German government sources as saying that the crisis fighting plan could possibly be announced by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy in the coming week.
    In an advance release before publication, Welt am Sonntag said that because it would take too long to change existing European Union treaties, euro zone countries should just agree among themselves on a new Stability Pact to enforce budget discipline – possibly implemented at the start of 2012.
    It could be similar to the Schengen Agreement which applies to EU countries that choose to take part and enables their citizens to enjoy uninhibited cross border travel. Among the countries in the Stability Pact, there would be a treaty spelling out strict deficit rules and control rights for national budgets.
    The European Central Bank should also emerge more as a crisis fighter in the euro zone, Welt am Sonntag wrote, saying that while governments cannot tell the independent ECB what to do, the expectations are clear.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/27/us-eurozone-integration-ecb-idUSTRE7AQ00F20111127

  3. 4 Linda
    November 27, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Good Morning…

    The New Hampshire Union Leader just endorsed Newt Gingrich for President. Yikes.

    • November 27, 2011 at 11:06 am

      Doesn’t say much for the NH Union Leader. But then again, I often wonder about the intellect of some of NH voters along with other voters who keep voting against their best interest.

    • November 27, 2011 at 11:14 am

      Good news – not that it means anything really, but the NH Union Leader will basically go “all in” with Newt now, praising him and bashing the rest of the field. Mitt will still win NH but this could help solidify Gingrich as the official not-Romney of the field and help with fundraising. Also if Mitt underperforms in NH, say anything less than 15 point win and it becomes the story – especially after he loses Iowa after deciding to contest it.

      Nevada decided to stay in February, meaning after NH the next primaries are in South Carolina and Florida (which just so happens to sandwich Newt’s home state of Georgia). So Mitt coming off a loss in Iowa and a less-than-stellar win in NH will head to hostile territory in SC and then a big show down in Florida.

    • November 27, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      Isn’t the Union leader a newspaper?

  4. 11 dotster3
    November 27, 2011 at 8:25 am

    The Obama Family Holiday Letter in USA Weekend by President Barack Obama—–nice! with some great photos:
    http://www.usaweekend.com/article/20111125/HOME02/311250004/-1/WAP&template=wapart

  5. November 27, 2011 at 8:28 am

    newt is not swinging his own party pols.

    Newt Gingrich has failed to land any lawmaker endorsements since rising to the top of the polls, a sign that those who worked with the former Speaker in Congress aren’t warming to his presidential bid.

    In contrast, Mitt Romney, another front-runner for the GOP nomination, has announced several Republican congressional endorsements in recent days, including Sens. John Thune (S.D.) and Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Rep. Charlie Bass (N.H.).

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/195427-lawmakers-not-flocking-to-gingrich

    He can’t possibly be the establishment candy-date either. It’ll be interesting to see how he is tonya hardinged.

    • November 27, 2011 at 9:05 am

      This is the ying and yang that’s going on between the Republican voters and the party leadership. The leadership keeps saying Romney and the voters keep saying no. It will be interesting to see whether the voters exert their power in the primaries or whether they’ll fall in line. If they do keep voting for anyone but Romney, will the leaders shove him down their throats anyway at the convention?

    • November 27, 2011 at 11:07 am

      Yeah, but Bill Clinton is singing Newt’s praises re his immigration statements at the debate. Clinton needs to STFU. He is NOT helping.

      • 23 anniebella
        November 27, 2011 at 11:22 am

        Why do you think Hillary is running around the world? To get away from Bill. Even she gets sick of him. Now I feel she is doing a great job too.

      • 24 Lovepolitics2008
        November 27, 2011 at 11:23 am

        Is Clinton trying to hurt Newt’s chances in the primaries? If so, is it a bad thing ? Which one would be the weakest candidate, Romney or Newt?

      • November 27, 2011 at 11:23 am

        He was also praising Perry shortly after he came on the scene. Bill Clinton does not want PBO to win second term. PBO came in cleaning up all his mess, DADT, DOMA, got health care that he couldn’t. But try as he might, PBO WILL win his reelection bid.

        Go away Bill!!

        • 27 nintendowii10
          November 27, 2011 at 11:47 am

          And this is the prime reason the Obama campaign did NOT pick Hillary as VP, her husband Bill’s HUGE mouth. It’s also a prime reason why Hillary would NOT have been an effective President, with Bill always yearning for the days when HE was running things.

          It’s revealing how Bill did his job and kept his yap shut all eight years Bush 43 was President, but when Obama becomes President, Bill cannot shut up. Bush 43 doesn’t opine about the President, even Lord Voldemort Cheney and his Satan Spawn daughter have piped down about PBO as of late, save Lord Voldemort Cheney promoting his lies in his sham of a book.

          • November 27, 2011 at 12:43 pm

            right on nin. I know people who this time around are just now starting to talk about “wouldn’t it be great if biden and clinton switched places?” and we here at TOD have been all over that. I think we talked about that up and down and all around at the beginning of last summer. And no. Hillary cannot be VP – precisely because of what you just pointed out nin.

          • 29 anniebella
            November 27, 2011 at 5:12 pm

            I agree, I agree, I agree. That’s one of the main reason Hillary was not chosen. Bill Clinton.

        • 30 Obama Grandmama
          November 27, 2011 at 11:54 pm

          Could Bill Clinton be using reverse psychology thinking whomever he endorses the GOP Right Wing will not want? Like the kiss of death?

      • November 27, 2011 at 12:57 pm

        A Clinton endorsement in Republican land is the kiss of death. We will see how it plays but that imo is a good move.

        • November 27, 2011 at 1:45 pm

          A Clinton endorsement in repug land during the age of Obama is exactly what it is: dirty, underhanded backstabbing. Thanks, Bill. He’s like herpes, the gift that just keeps on giving.

          • November 27, 2011 at 5:24 pm

            Hardly. It’s still the kiss of death for any Republican that happens to be the target. Ten to one says Newt is not feeling good about it. This has nothing to do with the President.

            • November 27, 2011 at 5:50 pm

              I find anything Billy Boy does/says suspect. I staunchly believe that he only has his best interest at heart. He’s ridiculous and I take anything he says with two tons of salt.

              • November 27, 2011 at 9:07 pm

                Of course he has his best interest at heart. Most people do especially ex Presidents. No surprise there. The point is what he said in support of Gingrich is not going to help Gingrich with The Republican base. I’m not sure what exactly is so suspect about saying he’s okay with Newt’s moment of humanity. He’s not the only one to make that point. If Republicans weren’t happy with what Newt said than they are going to be doubly unhappy now that Clinton agreed with it. It doesn’t undermine or effect President Obama in any way shape or form. It does however put the Newtster in a very uncomfortable position. I’m betting besides walking it back that saying Bill Clinton agrees with him at the next debate will not be on Gingrich’s list.

      • 36 Mel
        November 27, 2011 at 4:22 pm

        Please Bill Clinton is NOT is NOT the enemy please, if you want to go against Bill Clinton you are
        on your own PBO needs PBC more than you can imagen>

        • November 27, 2011 at 4:41 pm

          Ah……..NO.. PBO does NOT need Sloppy Bill. In case you forgot, PBO won the presidency without Bootstrap Bill and his ENORMOUS ego. The highly celebrate Bill Clinton both Tweety and Billy Boy are obsessed with are figments of their own imaginations. Bill was a substandard president at best. Why would PBO- one of the best modern presidents in history need that toolbag freak? Puleeese :roll:

        • 39 anniebella
          November 27, 2011 at 5:18 pm

          I am not calling Bill the enemy, heck I voted for the guy twice, it just seem to me there is a time to speak and a time to remain silent. But it’s clear the ex-President haven’t learned that yet.

        • 40 africa
          November 27, 2011 at 5:21 pm

          Why would PBO need Clinton now more than we can imagine? What special insights does he have? No one said he was the enemy. Funny that he had not one advice for Bush, but no shortage for PBO?

          I am sure PBO welcomes his support, but while the MSM tries to make him into this kingmaker is a farce, IMO.

          • 41 HZ
            November 27, 2011 at 6:04 pm

            Amen on that Africa. I too voted for BC twice, however, BC knows full well that he needs to pipe down. He knows how to contact PBO. So shut up BC and go speak, read your books, and me kind to HC and your sweet daughter. Your turn has passed. We are not totally ungrateful, but enough of your Drama , Please. Just stop it.HZ

        • November 27, 2011 at 10:56 pm

          What in hedes are you talking about Mel? Clinton does not support the prez.

        • 43 nospin
          November 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm

          PBO does NOT need PBC

          No No No. I outright reject and denounce that statement.

          no reflection on you Mel. But . . . no. just. . . no

        • 44 Puddin'
          November 29, 2011 at 2:47 am

          I respectfuly disagree…PBO and everyone else will be just fine if FORMER BILL CLINTON would do what the other former presidents are doing…Bill Clinton is self serving and he is doing all he can to make sure PBO does not go down in history as the greatest president ever. PBO needs to ALWAYS feed Bill Clinton with a long handle spoon.

  6. 46 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    November 27, 2011 at 8:45 am

    GoodMorning my TOD Family.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNION_LEADER_GINGRICH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-27-07-16-56

    Best News of the day for me. Biggest news paper in New Hampshire ENDORSES Newt. This is Music to my ears because I LOATHE Willard Mittens.

    • November 27, 2011 at 9:00 am

      Me thinks, this republican Thingy could be going all the way to the convention.
      Meanwhile, the press will fall in love with a third party candidate, bloomberg, Paul and or Sanders!
      They have already started…

    • November 27, 2011 at 9:23 am

      didn’t they endorse that old angry guy in 2008 ? if you can’t convince your adopted ‘home state’ paper even the second time around despite plenty of wooing, isn’t it time for you to quit politics altogether, willard ?

      • 49 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 10:03 am

        Yes, here’s a listing of their previous endorsements beginning in ’76.

        1976: The paper endorsed Ronald Reagan over Gerald Ford, but Reagan lost
        1980: Reagan won the endorsement and the primary
        1988: The Union Leader supported Pete du Pont, who finished fourth in the primary
        1992: The paper supported Pat Buchanan, who finished a competitive second against an incumbent president
        1996: The Union Leader again backed Buchanan, who this time won the primary
        2000: Steve Forbes won the paper’s endorsement, in advance of a third-place showing
        2008: The Union Leader supported John McCain, who won the state’s primary.

        http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/union_leader_backs_gingrich_in033724.php

        • 50 Debz
          November 27, 2011 at 10:13 am

          While their endorsement is meaningless as to who is the nominee, I love this Newt endorsement. This is supposed to be Mitt’s election and the paper is ignoring him. Nothing would make me happier than to see the entitled, condescending liar be taken down.

      • November 27, 2011 at 2:47 pm

        Not for williard..it will be time for him to double down on the breitbart anti-President Obama ads. Cause that’s what sociopathic corporatewhoreheads do.

    • 55 symmetry11
      November 27, 2011 at 10:27 am

      I was just watching “This WeeK” on ABC & they said that the Union Leader had endorsed Pat Buchanon when he ran.

  7. November 27, 2011 at 8:54 am

    c est vraiment tres tres rare qu on voit un homme aussi aimé par les gens que Dieu le garde et le protege

    • 58 hopefruit2
      November 27, 2011 at 9:31 am

      Oui, tu as raison!

      • 59 MTmarilyn
        November 27, 2011 at 1:18 pm

        Please in English for those of us who don’t speak other languages. I have always been sorry I am so language illiterate. Thank you for commenting on this blog.

        • November 27, 2011 at 1:23 pm

          “c’est vraiment tres tres rare qu on voit un homme aussi aimé par les gens que Dieu le garde et le protege”

          =

          “it’s really very, very rare that we see a man so loved by the people and who God keeps and protects”

          I think!

  8. 61 JER
    November 27, 2011 at 8:57 am

    I am sharing this email I received. It will keep Americans working and may create more jobs:

    Christmas 2011 — Birth of a New Tradition – “Made in America – by American hands”

    As the holidays approach, the giant Asian factories are kicking into high gear to provide Americans with monstrous piles of cheaply produced goods — merchandise that has been produced at the expense of American labor.

    Let this year be different. This year Americans should give the gift of genuine concern for other Americans. There is no longer an excuse that, nothing can be found that is produced by American hands. Yes there is!

    It’s time to think outside the box, people. Who says a gift needs to fit in a shirt box, wrapped in Chinese produced wrapping paper?

    Everyone — yes EVERYONE gets their hair cut. How about gift certificates from your local American hair salon or barber?

    Gym membership? It’s appropriate for all ages who are thinking about some health improvement.

    Who wouldn’t appreciate getting their car detailed? Small, American owned detail shops and car washes would love to sell you a gift certificate or a book of gift certificates.

    Are you one of those extravagant givers who think nothing of plunking down the Benjamins on a Chinese made flat-screen? Perhaps that grateful gift receiver would like his driveway sealed, or lawn mowed for the summer, or driveway plowed all winter, or games at the local golf course.

    There are a bazillion owner-run restaurants — all offering gift certificates. And, if your intended isn’t the fancy eatery sort, what about a half dozen breakfasts at the local breakfast joint. Remember, folks this isn’t about big National chains — this is about supporting your home town Americans with their financial lives on the line to keep their doors open.

    How many people couldn’t use an oil change for their car, truck or motorcycle, done at a shop run by the American working guy?

    Thinking about a heartfelt gift for mom? Mom would LOVE the services of a local cleaning lady for a day.

    My computer could use a tune-up, and I KNOW I can find some young guy who is struggling to get his repair business up and running.

    OK, you were looking for something more personal. Local crafts people spin their own wool and knit them into scarves. They make jewelry, and pottery and beautiful wooden boxes.

    Plan your holiday outings at local, owner operated restaurants and leave your server a nice tip. And, how about going out to see a play or ballet at your hometown theatre.

    Musicians need love too, so find a venue showcasing local bands.

    Honestly, people, do you REALLY need to buy another ten thousand Chinese lights for the house? When you buy a five dollar string of lights, about fifty cents stays in the community. If you have those kinds of bucks to burn, leave the mailman, trash guy or babysitter a nice BIG tip.

    You see, Christmas is no longer about draining American pockets so that China can build another glittering city. Christmas is now about caring about US, encouraging American small businesses to keep plugging away to follow their dreams. And, when we care about other Americans, we care about our communities, and the benefits come back to us in ways we couldn’t imagine.

    THIS is the new American Christmas tradition. Forward this to everyone on your mailing list — post it to discussion groups — throw up a post on Craigslist in the Rants and Raves section in your city — send it to the editor of your local paper and radio stations, and TV news departments.

    This is a revolution of caring about each other, and isn’t that what Christmas is about?

    • November 27, 2011 at 9:23 am

      Wonderful, Jer. Great ideas. My 92-year old MIL has gotten to the point where she really, truly does not want “things.” We set up a small fund in her name at the local girls club that she helped found some decades ago and she is SO thrilled when we add to the fund at holidays because it helps one more young woman to find her way in the world. She always says this makes her so much happier than another sweater to stuff in the closet or more things around the house. Make something special–bread, cookies, homemade candy–and include the card that says I gave to __ good cause in your name.

    • 65 mtmarilyn
      November 27, 2011 at 9:23 am

      Wonderfully said! That is my plan.

    • 66 dotster3
      November 27, 2011 at 9:39 am

      All great ideas—-makes so much more sense than knocking people down to get to the latest foreign-made electronic item that will go out of style in 6 months(shudder at the ugliness of all that). Instead of just crabbing about job losses which are partially a result of our buying habits, it’s an opportunity to make decisions which support our local businesses/jobs, to do something positive.

    • 68 desertflower
      November 27, 2011 at 10:21 am

      Excellent idea!

    • 70 Brittany
      November 27, 2011 at 11:43 am

      I love the idea, but it is hard to find items made in the U.S. Someone posted a list the other day on here of U.S. made items, and some of those items were actually being made in China.

  9. 71 Fred
    November 27, 2011 at 8:57 am

    good morning TOD family.May God watch over;bless and guide potus;flotus and the girls and watch over our country as well

  10. November 27, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Spritzer says in a politico article, that he wishes the President did tough financial services reform. And then he says, that is the mark of a true leader.
    The article does not mention, carelessly, that the Prez did just that and the Republicans want to repeal it!
    Spritzer is a fraud and yet another PUMA.

    • November 27, 2011 at 9:29 am

      Does any one in the world still think Spritzer is relevant? To him I would say, you blew your chance to make a difference in a huge state because you were selfishly, mindlessly careless. Our president has been a model of all that we value in a father and husband and he has accomplished miracles despite tremendous odds. So Spritzer, shut up and crawl back under your rock. You could have achieved financial reform in NY and you chose to fool around instead. Let us know when you actually accomplish something yourself and we might listen.

      • 75 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 10:00 am

        I voted for Spitzer for governor when I lived in NY. Then he had to disappoint and embarrass us with this bad behavior. Now he wants to lecture the President on how to act? Does he still have that CNN job or did they cancel him?

      • 80 HZ
        November 27, 2011 at 12:15 pm

        Thank you, Jackie. Spritzer needs to not only stop bashing the President, but Spritzer needs to shut up and find his own way to help in a positive manner to help others. However, he seems to have so many ugly rocks that he needs to crawl back under until he can and will , then leave us alone, Mr. Spritz. Tired of these tired selfish and self-centered people trying to tell President Barack Obama what he needs to do.HZ

    • November 27, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Funny how these “true leaders” in the Dem party can’t keep it in their pants. Yeah, leadership is screwing escorts and having it bring down your political career there Elliot…

    • 82 anniebella
      November 27, 2011 at 11:31 am

      Before I say anything I want to know if this Spritzer the ex-Governor of NY, who was caught with his hooker? If he is, then can I ask him what kind of leadership did he show when he was hooking up with hookers?

    • 87 Lovepolitics2008
      November 27, 2011 at 11:33 am

      From somebody who is supposed to know about politics, he displays a scarily ignorance of the legislative process. Another one who believes in the magic of the bully pulpit. Gosh these people are discouraging.

      • 88 HZ
        November 27, 2011 at 12:25 pm

        Hi Lovepolitics2008, you are so correct about their” ingorance of the legislative process.” These people are not only “discouraging”. they are hopeless.

        We are a group who has hope. Hope is a charge to have and keep within your spirit of gentle but great beliefs that there is such within your reach, but you must carry Hope very close to your inner core of your being to see it fulfilled. We have seen it once in 2008, and we will continue with it in 2012. We have that “Strong Audacity to Hope,” Yes we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Yes, We Will in 2012 ,
        bring it on home for our POTUS……HZ

  11. November 27, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Hi Chips,
    I’ve been trying to load the usaweekend page for a while and it keeps quitting my browser.

    Is there anywhere else this is posted?

    • November 27, 2011 at 10:02 am

      UPDATE: Ok, finally got the page to load and WOW! what a most inspiring, awesome letter. I do so love and adore this president.

      What a shinning example he is to all of us.

      God Bless him.

  12. 92 dotster3
    November 27, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Just think it’s a coincidence that twitter peeps are all talking about the great soundtrack from the movie Love Actually when my teacher/musician daughter and I somehow got on that subject on t-giving, agreeing it is the best movie soundtrack ever. We’ve worn out that CD—-great for holiday too:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Actually#Soundtrack

  13. 93 ChristiMtl
    November 27, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Good morning everyone.

    Did anybody watch the Sunday shows? I was just curious to know about Matt Damon, if he changed his tune or if he’s still bashing the President.

  14. 98 desertflower
    November 27, 2011 at 10:26 am

    It may have gotten “lost” because I posted it so late last night that no one saw it, but this piece from Kristof in the NYT is a good read….Benen picked it up this morning

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/opinion/sunday/Kristof-President-As-Pinata.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

    [T]hink back to 2000. Many Democrats and journalists alike, feeling grouchy, were dismissive of Al Gore and magnified his shortcomings. We forgot the context, prided ourselves on our disdainful superiority — and won eight years of George W. Bush.

    This time, let’s do a better job of retaining perspective. If we turn Obama out of office a year from now, let’s make sure it is because the Republican nominee is preferable, not just out of grumpiness toward the incumbent during a difficult time.

    • 99 Debz
      November 27, 2011 at 10:32 am

      The BS about PBO being inept as a communicator turned me off, I had to force myself to read the rest of the article. There is nothing wrong with the President’s communication skills. He communicates just fine with me. Why can’t these idiots write an article and get their point across without attacking PBO?

      • November 27, 2011 at 10:36 am

        I love how people who don’t listen love to blame PBO for his ineptness as a communicator.

      • 101 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 10:36 am

        I’m with you on this one Debz. And I’m reposting my comment about this from the previous thread:

        Kristoff says:

        “He badly underestimated the length of this economic crisis, and for a man with a spectacular gift at public speaking, he has been surprisingly inept at communicating.”

        Neither of these are true. EVERYONE (Kristoff included) badly underestimated the length of this economic crisis. Even during the mid 00′s while the economy was showing ominous signs of failure, the MSM was busy covering up and protecting GWB. When the President took office we were losing jobs at an astounding rate. The Republicans decided that they were not going to lift a finger to get this economy back on track and would obstruct as much as possible while the left and right media covered for them.

        And as for the poor communication meme, there have been concerted efforts in the media across the spectrum to blur/distort, undermine, or completely blackout the President’s message. When you have WH Press corps tweeting about Republicans during the President’s trip to Australia, you can’t turn around and pretend that the President has a “communication” problem. When you have OWS police arrests taking up 95% of news coverage while the President is going around talking about his Jobs Bill and the failings of the GOP in congress you can’t say the President is doing a poor job of getting his message across. When the media insists on dwelling on inconsequential minutiae like the President “flubbing his daughter’s age” while his bigger and more serious message on the debt ceiling deal gets side-tracked, you can’t pretend that it’s the President’s ineptness at play here.

        • 102 ChristiMtl
          November 27, 2011 at 10:40 am

          Perfect comment hopefruit, I couldn’t agree more.

        • 104 desertflower
          November 27, 2011 at 10:46 am

          We know that’s NOT TRUE. A sure case of projection going on here in this regard! The premier communicator of our lifetime? Are they joking? The REAL bad communicators are the MSM, and the Republican candidates. Every. Last. One.

        • 105 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
          November 27, 2011 at 10:47 am

          THIS.

        • November 27, 2011 at 11:06 am

          I actually agree about the communication failures. I put most of the blame on his team, but yea, this is one thing that in retrospect he would have love to change.

          • 107 nintendowii10
            November 27, 2011 at 11:37 am

            I posted this below BWD, but how the hell can there be “communications failures” when the national media spends most of its time catering to OWS and Republican audiences? And how the hell is that PBO or his teams fault, and what the hell are they supposed to do to change it? Remember, this is the same media that gave the utmost attention to concern troll Trump and how he sent “his guys” to Hawaii to “investigate Obama’s birth certificate.” IMO, there is NOTHING PBO nor his team could do when we have a national media focused more on concern trolls like Trump/Cain, OWS, and bending over for Republicans. They can’t even tell the TRUTH for crying out loud!

            • November 27, 2011 at 12:05 pm

              All true, but look what happened over the past few months. I hate to use the term “bully pulpit”, as the professional left completely destroy it – but this is exactly what’s been going on. He ignores the media, turned into campaign mode and things looks better, because people wants to hear from him. Reagan was campaigning every day, that’s the only reason why they called him “the great communicator” or whatever. PBO is 10 times the orator Saint whats-his-name was, and the use of this amazing skill was far too limited in the first couple of years. The media can go fuck themselves, but if PBO address the nation in prime-time – they have to show him.
              I also think that they played the inside game way too much in the first two years. This is something PBO admitted himself. I still wish he they would go out and rally people to march and protests for Health Care reform.
              Again, this failure IMO was a result of a bad strategic decision and I’m pretty sure that it’ll be different in the next term.

              • 109 nintendowii10
                November 27, 2011 at 12:11 pm

                He IGNORES the national media, goes local, and what is the result? More people get his message and ideas unfiltered, and his numbers went and are going UP while these national media jerkoffs snivel about PBO having “communications failures.”

                Sure PBO could do what you suggest, give a primetime address to the nation and what would be the result? These same national media jerkoffs taking apart piece by piece what they believe PBO said or what they wanted PBO to say, this is EXACTLY what happened one year ago when PBO addressed the nation on the BP oil spill, we had Keith and Rachel giving their own version of how they would have addressed the nation and making fools of themselves. Is that REALLY what is important, winning over the hearts and minds of a few blowhard media jerkoffs as opposed to the votes of millions of American voters?

                Blowing off the national media circuit is ONLY a bad strategic decision if you’re a DC insider, but most of these DC insiders WANT and HOPE FOR PBO to be defeated… Chuck Todd, Jake Tapper, Mark Knoller, the lot of them!

              • November 27, 2011 at 12:32 pm

                I think that the polls showing that people want the rich to pay more taxes, and that the emphasis is on jobs rather than the deficit is a testament to how well this President has done with messaging. Changing the conversation from the deficit to jobs was a masterstroke and no mean feat. The Republicans came to this new cycle with their deficit hawk strategy well in hand and the President crushed it. He’s taken from them the belief that Republicans are strong on Defense and masters of foreign policy. The majority of people *still* blame Bush for the economic mess. He has been dismantling the Republican identity one brick at a time and has been creating the conditions for people to see the Republicans as the ones who refuse to compromise and who are not truly serious about the deficit. This is huge, people. He isn’t just preparing the ground for a battle with the Republican nominee, he’s destroying the Republican brand, in part by letting them do the work for him. It isn’t enough for him to win re-election, we all know that. We have to move the country to a post-neocon trajectory. He will do that by presenting the most optimistic view of America and let the Republicans stumble all over themselves trying to rehabilitate their ruined reputation. He has them completely on the defense now. This is more than messaging. This is well and truly creating a new conversation.

              • November 27, 2011 at 12:39 pm

                I agree with you bwd, especially about healthcare reform. The reason it STILL doesn’t poll that well is because too many people don’t understand it. For instance, even though it’s already helped millions why do people not know the what and why of waiting to 2014 to implement the bulk of reforms? Hopefully, the president will address this once the real campaigning has begun.

                It’s a travesty that our MSM doesn’t do it’s job so that the president can focus on governing in these turbulent times.

                • 119 Debz
                  November 27, 2011 at 12:51 pm

                  I don’t agree about the healthcare reform and people not understanding it. From Jan 2007 until Nov 2008 All we heard about was healthcare reform, from PBO, Hillary and John Edwards. The biggest argument was about the mandate, Edwards and Clinton wanted it, Obama did not. HCR was the centerpiece of PBO’s campaign. People voted for him based on HCR and ending the war in Iraq. The problems started when the msm was parroting Palin’s death panel nonsense and the loud mouth PLs confused the issue with the “public option” and “single payer”. Neither the po or sp were ever part of the President’s campaign, nor were they part of the dem platform. Does any one else remember before the dem convention, people around the country gathered in groups to give their ideas about health care to OFA? Even here, in my red area, there were groups who met for the HC talks and it was on the local news. I don’t believe everyone is so confused by the HCR bill, just those who listen to the msm and fox news.

                  • November 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm

                    THIS!! I’m tired of relitigating the past and the “he could have, should have” crap. ACA was passed, it’s doing it’s job, PBO is doing his job, now let’s do ours. Whether it’s canvassing for him, harassing our local and congressional critters, donating time and or money or, just engaging in conversations with other people about PBO’s record. HCR at this point is done. It took 60 years but it’s done. Any other reforms to the law will likely come from future democratic presidents. Now let’s get over it and move on. If we stumble upon woefully misinformed people in our lives who bitch and moan about ACA, let’s take the time to inform them and keep going.

                    • 121 nintendowii10
                      November 27, 2011 at 1:38 pm

                      And this sniveling about ACA reminds me over a year ago how the emoleft wanted to throw in the towel and “try again next year.” Yeah, let’s see how far ACA would have gone with Orange Boner and his cronies in charge. It’s unfortunate all that energy spent on ACA cost the Dems a midterm election, because there was no motivation to re elect Dems into office, but that has all turned around. Now the American people see and know the Republicans for whom they truly are: snake oil salesmen only interested in power.

                    • November 27, 2011 at 2:02 pm

                      Well, I for one would LOVE to see a printable sheet of what ACA has thus far accomplished what it will accomplish in 2014 when the bulk of it is enacted if WE, as you say, do our jobs by getting the info. out. Can you tell me in 1 or 2 sentences why the main reforms are scheduled for 2014? Methinks it was about budgeting, i.e., paying for it as opposed to running up our deficits.

                      I thank the wonkiness,of Deaniac at TPV for the understanding I have yet it’s still too easy to be misled and misinformed.

                      To reiterate: we need a printable sheet that we can stuff in people’s doors and use in our phone banking. I agree that (mostly) should have, could have) is crap. Doesn’t mean that there’s NOTHING to be learned from the past so we can correct it. I wonder if this idea of a healthcare fact sheet is worth putting to the new petition process at Obama2012? Any thoughts?

                      lisa, I say this as a person whose love and admiration for PBO is off the charts.

                    • November 27, 2011 at 2:19 pm

                      Pamela,
                      Here is a website with a list of valuable information on health care reform. If you scroll down a little, you will find one option called Heath care reform fact and myth. There are also other options that discuss the lawsuits, the applicability of the law etc. it took me three minutes to find this page on whitehouse.gov and I’m the least computer savvy person there it. Perhaps if more people got involved and took the time to engage in their government, they wouldn’t be so stupid and vote against their own interests.
                      Ps- the WH has made it very easy for people to find and view fact sheets at their own discretion on whitehouse.gov. They aren’t hiding anything.
                      http://search.whitehouse.gov/search?affiliate=wh&query=Affordable+care+act&form_id=usasearch_box&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Search

                  • November 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm

                    Add to the number of people who were familiar with healthcare reform the thousands who have been helped by it since it was enacted. If their families, friends, neighbors, and co-workers weren’t aware of how it could benefit them, for the most part, now they do!~

          • 127 hopefruit2
            November 27, 2011 at 12:01 pm

            Love ya BWD – but I honestly don’t think there’s anything the President could have done differently that would have made his communication more successful than it already is. First of all, the media is an extended arm of the Republican party and their job is to push information that is consistent with the Republican agenda. Well before PBO’s presidency, they have ALWAYS been like this which is why GWB got elected twice and Howard Dean and John Kerry were so easily swiftboated. With President Obama, the media has had a more difficult job. Though they’ve achieved a some success in muting a few of his messages, it’s proving to be not as easy to entirely destroy his message because he has been able to circumvent the MSM using innovative technological methods, ground game, and his own charisma (which the MSM and Mitt Romney HATE). So they are even more ramped up than ever – determined to bring him down, but continue to be frustrated nonetheless as he out-maneuvers them to a measurable degree.

            The media gets VERY and palpably nervous whenever PBO has to make an important speech – because they actually fear that people will tune in and HEED his words. This nervousness didn’t come from nowhere and it is not unfounded. PBO is a gifted communicator and actions speak louder than words – despite what the pundits say on TV or in their columns, they know DAMN well that he is and HAS BEEN master communicator, (e.g., they (and we) witnessed the congressional websites go wild after the President spoke). Their BEHAVIOR when he speaks tells me that they privately acknowledge what I and others know to be true, but that they would never publicly state out of pride, irrational refusal to give PBO credit and allegiance to the Repub party, etc. Some of these behaviors include: the trotting out of panels to “grade” his speeches, the nonstop chatter and speculation about what he would, should, could say 72 hrs ahead of a speech, the insistence on distracting the public from the speech with trivial or nonsensical details (e.g., daughter-agegate, rat scampering around in Rose garden, presidential seal dropping from podium, grey hair, etc).

            I contend that PBO continues to be a master communicator and his skills are actually improving as is his ability to circumvent the MSM..people are increasingly suspicious of the media – particularly when it comes to “reports” about PBO – and rightly so. They are trusting the President more. As the 2012 campaign draws near, I am confident that the President will once again successfully overcome the MSM’s malevolent antics as he did in 2008.

            • 128 nintendowii10
              November 27, 2011 at 12:04 pm

              THIS x 1000!!!

            • November 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm

              He is indeed a master communicator, that’s why I hate that he was under-used.

              Love you back, mate. :)

              • 130 L3
                November 27, 2011 at 12:48 pm

                You underestimate the value of timimng . If PBO is trotted out too often, it would lose it’s punch. Sometimes you have to pace yourself allow your enemy to reveal himself and then go in for the kill. It’s called strategy.

                • November 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm

                  I’m not talking political games, I’m talking about educating the public, let them know what’s really been done and create a clear narrative. For too long they were all over the place.

                  • November 27, 2011 at 1:33 pm

                    Their narrative was pretty clear. It’s not PBOs fault that the She-Bitch opened up her trap and started screaming “death panels.” nor is it his fault that establishment Repugs-seeing an opportunity to get back at PBO- kept their traps shut at town halls when their idiot constituents started spewing FAUX news claptrap. It is triply not PBOs fault that the media: greedy, money hungry skeeze bags that they are, seeing an opportunity for viewership, chose to show all the hype and drama of the Tepee party, rather than focus on all the town halls PBO engaged in.

                  • 135 L3
                    November 27, 2011 at 1:42 pm

                    It is not PBO’s responsibility to spoonfeed a willfully ignorant public. Democracy is not a spectator sport. The public has to participate. PBO cannot do this alone and should not be expected to. I know it’s naive to think that everyone in ths country will be as politically engaged as many of us who comment on this blog are but my God, I don’t know what else PBO can do outside of of coming to each of our homes personally to explain himself. See my comment below.

                  • 137 Lovepolitics2008
                    November 27, 2011 at 5:16 pm

                    BWD, if they were “all over the place” could it be because the Bush administration had left office with fires burning “all over the place” ?

                    Go back to the schedule of President Obama during the first two years… How many travels around the world to rebuild America’s relations with other countries ? How much time President Obama had to devote to study the situation in Afghanistan and try to repair the absolute mess left by Bush there? And let’s not forget Iraq. And there was Guantanamo which was a political and administrative mess. And the summit about the loose nukes (Another urgency that nobody talks about).

                    The economy falling apart, the auto industry on the verge of collapse, numerous agencies to rebuild after the desastrous previous administration ( DoJ beeing one of the worst…). They came up with the biggest economic stimulus ever voted in history within only a few weeks, but they didn’t have time to explain it or campaign for it afterwards because there were SO MANY problems to tackle. They had to come up with a better way to administrate TARP. The banking system was still very fragile and they were struggling to decide between solutions which all had downsides…. (And if we read between the lines of the little speech Rahm did when he left the WH, the situation was more dire than they ever told the public).

                    And among all the urgencies, President Obama decided to attack Health Care Reform, because he knew that if it was diffucult then it would be even more difficult if not impossible politically to work on HCR later in his term. Boy was he right.

                    I remember very well that within DAYS of the signature of HCR, nobody was talking about it because some other problems, situations, urgencies, demanded the attention of the President and the media. I confess I don’t remember what those things were, but I certainly remember that I said to myself how exceptional this presidency was because after that monumental achievement , President Obama didn’t have time to enjoy it and go sell it to the public !!!! It was zoooom what’s next, what’s next?

                    We cannot apply the usual standards to this presidency when it comes to communication. Setting narratives takes time and repetition. The number of crisis to tackle in the first two years was simply too high.

                    Now, things are still very difficult and the President’s schedule is still insane, but he has had a little more breathing room, just a little. And we’re seeing the results.

                    Of course, I see that he has been more confrontational than conciliatory in the past few months and we could say that it’s an important factor in his success. But let’s not forget that all his efforts at conciliation have helped create his image as the “reasonable” one or “the only adult in the room” (!!!).

                    That beeing said, I’m not saying there have not been any mistakes. I for one would like a much bigger effort to publicize their site White House.gov , a reevaluation of their strategy with the DC press corps ( not giving in to the games but more diplomacy… don’t tell them they’re irrelevant, Mr. Plouffe.). Furthermore, while I applaud that they’re maintaining their objectives of educating the voters and talking about substance, they have to accept that unfortunately, perception plays a role in politics.

                    Finally, bring WOMEN in the communications team. They’re usually good at it lol !!!

                    • 138 FiredUpInCA
                      November 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm

                      Thank you for the detailed reminder of what a mess things were and providing the context in which the President’s must deliver his messages .

                      Not only were credit markets frozen, but so were consumers; so was the country. Compare that to the record-breaking Black Friday under this President, who has been communicating optimism from Day One.

                      Keep in mind, the national unemployment record has not changed dramatically but the optimism throughout the country has.

                      The President’s buoyant, shake-off-the-gloom, attitude I believe has had an impact on national attitude. He has been neither pie-in-the-sky like Ronald Reagan or a cardigan-sweatered President under seige by the economy like Jimmy Carter.

                      Additionally, he has moved the country from fearing terror at every corner to wondering which fear spectre is going to be eliminated next, which is another lift in the national psyche.

                      I believe his messages get through to people, through local and social media. Whether or not people respond wisely to his messages is a different matter. It is hard to ignore the best communicator in modern memory.

                      Still, fear clouds reasoning and in the face of real fears about their next paychecks, their homes, what the change in health delivery would mean, some voters did nothing and some voted against their interests thinking they were voting for them.

                      I fail to see how messaging alone can cure this kind of thinking:

                      “The cliche about most American elections is: “It’s too bad that they all can’t lose.” The reality for the 2012 election is that we truly need someone — ANYONE — to win.

                      I gleaned this bit of political wisdom from my liberal in-laws over Thanksgiving dinner. They are wonderful people, but on key political issues they are as far to the left as I am to the right. And yet one of them — a solid Jewish Democrat from Florida — looked at me across his turkey and stuffing and said:

                      “They (meaning Washington) have to do something. We can’t have this gridlock forever. If it looks like the Republicans are going to control Congress, then I’m going to vote Republican for president, too.”

                      http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1383899

                      This voter actually thinks this way post-Debt Ceiling crisis.

                      No amount of messaging can cure willful ignorance about the consequences of Republican policies after the decade from hell that the entire world was traumatized by.

                      Seniors who believed that Democrats had to be run out of office so Republicans could protect Medicare can’t be messaged, they need to be outnumbered.

                      Occupiers who believe all politicians are the same when it comes to financial reform and wealth inequality, can’t be messaged, they need to be outnumbered.

                      Chronically disgruntled Democrats and Independents who think this President hasn’t achieved anything, can’t be messaged, they need to be outnumbered.

                      All the President’s messages are readily available anyone interested. All the dire consequences of Republican majority rule are readily available to anyone paying attention.

                  • 139 enekra
                    November 27, 2011 at 9:53 pm

                    Once again, I read a post that I feel compelled to respond to. Since the very beginning of his presidency, my family and I have talked about how PBO is the ONLY one pulling the weight in washington and in the media. When the half term guvna, mentioned the word death panels during the healthcare lying fiesta, it was like an echo cave. All of the other republicans jumped on it and repeated and repeated and repeated. Regardless of the extent to which the ACA went (personally, I am in favor of the single payer system, or medicare for all and thought that PBO did a disservice to this country by not putting those forward in the initial point of discussion for his plan), I felt as if Obama was the only one talking about it, with very few democratic representatives echoing his sentiment. As far as I am concerned, if the right wingers have 10 town hall meetings, the dems should have had 20. If they went on 15 talks shows to discredit the president, then the dems should have been on 40 programs. If they have a lying phrase being repeated over and over and over, then the dems should get a truthful phrase to echo over and over and over. I do understand that this is in the past, but past tends to be prologue and as long as Barack is the only one talking in the room (even though he may have the mic/bully pulpit), then his voice will not be heard. Where are the Bob Casey’s, the Al Franken’s, the Dick Durbin’s, the Chuck Schumer’s? Where the hell are they? When Barack says something cogent, they should be repeating it to all beyond. We have over 50 senators in the senate and they are all in some corner hiding. During the helf chare debate, it was Pelosi and Obama, ad nauseum. Get yourself on a Sunday talk show like the persuasive idiots on the other side. The few people who showed backbone (Grayson, Weiner, Feingold) who spoke strongly, and articulately were out of office for some reason or other. PBO has NO communication problem, but unfortunately, we do not have a very united party who is willing to openly and loudly give him legislative and vocal support even when it is for a good thing…healthcare being one of them.

                    The DNC, is supposed to be the umbrella organization for dems and the are quiet and timid as a mouse. I heard that OFA was organizing lawyers to help in the states where the repubs are holding voters rights and opportunities hostage. Why is it not the DNC doing this? It it not just the presidential elections at stake, it is also regional and local positions as well. You help one, and you help the vote all the way up.

                    This is just my long way of saying that we as obama supporters need to put pressure on our senators and reps to visibly showing support to him. I know we cannot get that from people like Bauchus, Begich, Landrieu and the other blue dogs, but more of them need to have his back. It is one thing we can take away from the OWS folks. When one person says “mic check” it reverberates throughout and spreads even though there is no mic. That is the way the repubs have been spreading their message for the longest while and guess what, that’s what we need to do as well. PBO should not be playing solo. That’s the end of my long winded response.

              • 140 nathkatun7
                November 27, 2011 at 6:13 pm

                BWD, I remember you posting his speeches at numerous town hall meetings, that the President held on health care reform, that were totally ignored by the media which was obsessed with the teabaggers. As many people have suggested, President Obama’s problem is not communication. President Obama’s problem is that the so called mainstream media either ignores him, or filters and distorts everything he says and does. Look at the way the media completely ignores his impressive oversees successes.

          • November 27, 2011 at 12:11 pm

            While I think Kristoff made some good points in his column, I disagree with him as far as PBO being inept at communication. He’s tried ample times and every chance he gets to get his message out, but on numerous occasions we’ve seen little or no coverage when he’s out there.

            Even PEW reports that PBO gets only 9% positive coverage from MSM. If indeed, they were accurately covering him, it would be different, to my mind.

          • November 27, 2011 at 12:18 pm

            I still maintain that the president had to walk a difficult tightrope to get as much legislation as he did through the Democratic Congress in the first two years. Here is where he made the decision to get stuff done, rather than grandstand and upset the tricky balance of yeas and nays that were continually shifting in Congress on all his major issues. Then he had to deal with the ‘hair on fire about the deficit’ new Republican House, which held a time bomb with the debt ceiling issue. I honestly think that if the president had cared less, he would have talked more to make his points. What happened when the time bomb was defused with the debt ceiling bill? He has managed to refocus the attention and conversation of the whole country away from deficits and onto jobs. He is targeting specific Republican intransigence and forcing the focus on job creation despite all the elaborately orchestrated noise of the Republican-owned media. And in the meantime he is charming leaders around the globe and solving crisis after crisis. And he still has a year to spend most of his time communicating because any legislation is DOA with this Congress. So in the perspective of this presidency, I think he’s going to go down as a great communicator who has made his voice heard against unprecedented opposition and with little support from his party.

            • 144 L3
              November 27, 2011 at 1:08 pm

              Agreed. He had to proceed cautiously during the debt deal and possible govt shutdown because the Repubs had leverage. They have no leverage now so PBO is free to be more aggressive. You can’t successfully tell the American people what asses Republicans are until they reveal themselves to the public to be just that. PBO is a biracial man who identifies as black, has an african name that has elements that are either the same or similar to two of our country’s enemies, was raised by a single mother with no money and yet against all those odds he managed to get himself elected President of the United States but everyone and their mother seems to think they know more than he does about any given situation. Chances are you don’t. Please consider that PBO has information available to him that we don’t have. All of his decisions are based on knowledge of people, politics, information and situations that we are not privy to. It is the height of ridiculousness to think otherwise.

              Hindsight is 20/20. His tiiming is perfect.

              • 145 CEB
                November 27, 2011 at 3:13 pm

                Late to the discussion, but you have so clearly stated what I have thought all along, which is why I never get into these woulda, coulda shoulda conversations. Thanks for your comment.

              • November 27, 2011 at 7:49 pm

                I also want to point out that it’s much easier to go on the attack when Republicans control the House. That wasn’t possible when Dems controlled both the house and the senate. And with respect to BWD, the “lack of communication” really doesn’t take into account the prima donnas in the Senate that were always more than willing to sell the President out because they saw him as an upstart when one of THEM deserved to be president more. President Obama was able to start changing the conversation back in April when he wiped his ass with Paul Ryan’s budget plan, and began pushing for tax increases. The fact that in July the sticking point was over taxes, and that this is STILL something that the majority of the public supports is all due to President Obama kicking off that talking point back in April. Against a republican-led House.

        • November 27, 2011 at 12:59 pm

          THIS Thx Hopefruit I like Debz almost stopped reading the article as soon as he got to the “bad communictor” part. I hear that from my “dissapointed” people in my life and I’m like – what? No. He’s great! Gah Arrrrgghhh!

        • 148 criquet
          November 27, 2011 at 4:16 pm

          I’m reposting this from the previous thread too:

          Michele, I agree and what Kristoff fails to mention is that from Day 1, the Republicans have filibustered and tried to block every initiative that the President has tried to get the economy moving. The stimulus in 2009 had to be made smaller and include a huge chunk of tax credits/cuts to get a few Republicans in the Senate (Snowe, Collins ??/ I think) and traitor Joe to vote for it. President Obama NEVER HAD 60 votes in the Senate. He had to work to get one or two Republican votes and Lieberman nearly every time and that is why some of his plans had to be moderated. Remember that Sen Al Franken was seated late in 2009, Ted Kennedy died, then Vice-President Biden managed to get Arlen Specter to join the Democrats that allowed some of the legislation to get through.

          These “journalists” and pseudo TV pundits have short or no memories , are dishonest , incompetent or both.
          I am sick and tired of these faint praise , yes he did but not enough, not far enough, I have disappointments with PBO but at least bla bla bla “journalists”.
          Do your research, tell the facts and the whole story and the public would have some respect for you.
          Now, if polls were taken as to journalistic credibility would anyone score above 30%?

          Maybe this is something we should take on. Try to get a polling organization to poll the media houses and particular journalists and get the results out on-line . That might might make some of them sit up and realise just how little respect they garner and change some minds in the public.

        • 149 nathkatun7
          November 27, 2011 at 6:00 pm

          Thank you hopefruit for this excellent comment. Is there any way you can send it to Kristoff and NYT?

  15. November 27, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Good morning everyone.

    I have yet to read it, so it might be another NYT crap, but the headline is promising. :)

    Team Obama Gears Up for 2012

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/sunday-review/Team-Obama-Gears-Up-for-2012.html?_r=1

    • 152 Debz
      November 27, 2011 at 10:50 am

      Thanks BWD this is a good article. The fact that OFA blindsided the NC gop last year is wonderful. I also believe that is how PBO won in ’08, we all worked under the radar. This time around we will all have to work harder, but I have confidence in all of us and the campaign.

    • November 27, 2011 at 10:59 am

      It says we have raised 150 million so far(combined with dnc).

      That is news to me. Last I checked we were at 86 million!

    • 160 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      November 27, 2011 at 11:02 am

      Do not underestimate those OFA volunteers. They are determined like never before. :smile:

    • November 27, 2011 at 11:06 am

      Okay, call me bitter, but why were OFA people out in force in North Carolina (per this article) when we couldn’t get them to lift a finger in our local elections? Even a little bit of help would have made a huge difference, but they completely ignored us.

      • 162 Desraye
        November 27, 2011 at 12:02 pm

        I am sorry but ,some of the Dems in NC do not want to be associated with PBO.

        • November 27, 2011 at 12:35 pm

          I’m talking about WA State. Even 10 volunteers taking a few shifts would have made a difference in the outcome of an important race.

        • November 27, 2011 at 2:16 pm

          I was thinking this might be the case. The OFA can’t go to work on a local election without the permission of the local Democratic Party. In some cases these relationships are hostile. On the federal level for the presidential election, OFA bypasses the local party and develops its own structure. They are careful to keep respectful boundaries with the local people unless they’re invited to cooperate..

        • 165 anniebella
          November 27, 2011 at 5:49 pm

          Who are the Dems in North Carolina who do not want to associated with the President? I know we have some of those stinking blue dogs, but our Governor and Senator Hagan, Congressman Butterfield isn’t one of them. But if I had the names of those who don’t want to associated with my President they would hear from me loud and clear.

    • 166 halo
      November 27, 2011 at 11:38 am

      ““They can say they saved the financial system, saved the auto industry, that he was the first president to ever pass health care — shot bin Laden — I mean, it’s not like he can’t point to some things,” the strategist, James Carville, said in an interview. But, as of now, he said, “You can only talk about the economy: nothing else counts.” ”

      LOOKS WHO’S BACK. THE ASSHOLE. HEY CARVILLE, YOUR GUY DIDN’T DO HALF THE GUYS OUR GUY DID SO SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.

      • November 27, 2011 at 2:27 pm

        I regard Carville as I would any Republican at this point. He opens his mouth, anti-Obama nonsense spits out, I ignore him. He sends an e-mail asking for support, I tell him hell would freeze over before I would send him a dollar. Then I delete. To me he’s just noise.

        • 168 anniebella
          November 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm

          I don’t like Mr. Carville either. Any money I have will go straight to the Obama for America. No where else.

          • November 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm

            James Carville needs to get on a slow boat with Tweety to somewhere I would like to choose, and just keep going. Keep it to yourself, Carville, if you are not here to help us, move out of the way. Sorry that is what I tell my ‘friends of contact’ when they start this nonsense.

            How does Carville know what will be the “real” issue by 2012. Things are changing, maybe not as fast as some would want, even our dear POB has stated that. But the fact of the matter is, unless Carville has a direct -line to the future, he needs to keep the’ loud noise ‘
            down, it is causing my hearing apparatus to malfunction. In other words, Shut Up, Mr. Carville. Please.HZ

      • November 27, 2011 at 3:41 pm

        Bullshite, that’s so last century. “Point to some things” lmaO! Some things! I think Carville is still bitter.

  16. 171 hopefruit2
    November 27, 2011 at 10:54 am

    HAHAHA…so on September 22nd Willard was thrilled to reach 100K Twitter followers and felt that he could double this in 60 days (which would be approx. Nov 22, last Wednesday)

    But alas – as of Nov 27, at under 179K followers, Willard is still short of his goal, more than 20K followers short!

  17. 205 nintendowii10
    November 27, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Re: the “communications failure” BS, it is BS. How can the President have a “communications failure” when the NATIONAL MEDIA spends most of its time catering to OWS and Republicans?

    I’m glad these national media assholes are whining and sniveling about his “failure to communicate” and “get his message through,” that just shows how much more effective PBO is locally. I also notice these assholes ignore the fact that PBO’s numbers have gone UP, if PBO is having a “communications failure,” then how the hell are they going to explain his poll numbers going up?

    But then again, the national media’s job is to spread doom and gloom. Their job is to LIE and depress the vote. Well our job is to continue to call them out on their lies, because PBO has been one of the most effective Presidents our nation has had. It’s just that too many people listen to the TV/radio/blog talking heads and take what they opine on as gospel truth. The only TV talking heads even worth it are Al Sharpton and occasionally Lawrence O’Donnell and Ed Shultz will strike chords of fact. And of course we have the emoprog concern troll “pundits” like Gollum Carville (married to Repub Mary Matalin, lord knows what she slips in his drinks), Cenk Uygar, Glenn Greenwald, Arianna Huffington, Dylan RATigan, most of whom are “former” Republicans with “former” being in doubt. Who cares what the hell these concern trolls say anyhow?

  18. November 27, 2011 at 11:34 am

    SAROBI, Afghanistan — Afghan forces will assume control of their own security in 18 new areas, some of them still troubled by insurgents, bringing half of the country’s population under the government’s nominal authority, Afghan officials said Sunday.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/28/world/asia/afghan-troops-will-expand-security-control.html?ref=global-home

  19. 207 desertflower
    November 27, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Reminder to everyone that wants to help the kids at the elementary school I teach in…we’re trying very hard to get a new sound system so that we can actually HEAR the kids perform their magic! Pepsi is giving away $10,000 to the top 15 finalists(top vote getters)…I voted this morning, and we are currently #20….5 more places to go! I think we have until the end of November, so we have to give a big push to get this done..you may vote once a day per each version of voting (online, and text would be 2, and THAT’S ok….)

    If you prefer to vote online go to http://www.refresheverything.com
    Search: Desert Shadows
    Click: Vote For This
    Follow directions to register your email acct. (No addresses or phone numbers required)
    You will be emailed confirmation message
    Open it…Vote, done:)

    If you text: Text to 73774 Message code 109320

    Thank you everyone….from all the 500+ kids that have stood on that stage at one time or another….that need to be heard!

    • 210 nintendowii10
      November 27, 2011 at 11:54 am

      And cue the emoleft whiners sniveling about how the American Care Act “is a failure” and “giveaway to insurance companies” because “it’s not public option or single payer.” And it’s revealing how these same emoleft whiners are siding with the Teabags and want the entire law ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

  20. 211 ChristiMtl
    November 27, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Update on DHS Conspiracy BS; Rick Ellis Takes on Karoli, Fails BigTime

    Saturday, Ellis posted an “update” of sorts, entitled “The dangers of relying on common sense (or why Crooks & Liars is wrong). Now, his original “story,” such as it is, has been flying around the Internet and left leaning news, even though absolutely zero provable facts were contained in the original, and no additional facts have come to light. Yet, once again, Rick Ellis uses unverifiable fact and supposition to make the unprovable DECLARATION that “Crooks & Liars is wrong.”

    Ask people who are paying attention to the OWS movement and they’ll swear up and down that yes, it was coordinated by DHS because MICHAEL MOORE and now NAOMI WOLF say so.

    http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2011/11/update-on-dhs-conspiracy-bs-rick-ellis-takes-on-karoli-fails-bigtime.html

    Who need the lying republicans with people like this.

    I read Naomi Wolf article this weekend……unbelievable.

    • 212 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      November 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      Sorry I don’t know who this Naomi Wolf is. I had to google her and still didn’t recognize her face.

      • 213 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm

        Naomi Wolf, like her other “Naomi” counterpart (Klein) are two upper-middle class, self-indulgent brats who have latched on to the OWS movement. Neither of them will suffer with a Repub presidency. The former is a PUMA and the latter is Canadian-born who can safely retreat North if conditions in the US become unlivable under a President Gingrich/Romney.

      • November 27, 2011 at 2:33 pm

        It’s good news that you don’t know who she is, Me4. She has an overblown sense of her self-importance, but most people in the country couldn’t pick her out of a lineup.

        • November 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm

          I remember Naomi Wolf because she’s the one who was supposed to have “advised Al Gore on wearing Earth tones” (which she denied) and it was made to be a weird thing by press jackals. So, here she is pushing weird shite, herself.

      • 216 Sue in Minnesota
        November 27, 2011 at 7:34 pm

        Third wave feminist, authored “The Beauty Myth” among other books. I don’t know why she is considered to have ‘clout’ with the OWS movement. Sounds half baked and prone to conspiracy theories to me.

  21. 217 donna dem 4 obama
    November 27, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Williard better look over his shoulder cuz Newt is crawling up his back.

    Gingrich Gets Big Endorsement From N.H. Paper

    New Hampshire’s largest newspaper on Sunday endorsed former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the 2012 GOP presidential race, signaling that rival Mitt Romney isn’t the universal favorite and potentially resetting the contest before the state’s lead-off primary Jan. 10.

    pardon me while I go GAG!!!!!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/11/27/142822016/gingrich-gets-big-endorsement-from-n-h-paper?ft=1&f=1014&sc=tw

  22. November 27, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    as someone who lived in New Hampshire, I can honestly say that this is a BIG DEAL:

    ………………………………………….

    Political Animal
    Blog
    November 27, 2011 8:00 AM
    Union Leader backs Gingrich in NH

    By Steve Benen

    To the extent that newspaper endorsements still matter, this is one Newt Gingrich will be thrilled to pick up.


    GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich received the endorsement of the influential editorial board of the New Hampshire Union Leader on Sunday, providing another boost to his surging campaign.

    The endorsement gives the former House Speaker additional momentum after a month which has seen him vault to the top of national GOP polls.

    “We are in critical need of the innovative, forward-looking strategy and positive leadership that Gingrich has shown he is capable of providing,” said the editorial by publisher Joseph W. McQuaid. “A lot of candidates say they’re going to improve Washington. Newt Gingrich has actually done that, and in this race he offers the best shot of doing it again,” he added.

    Here’s the Union Leader’s front-page editorial.

    Gingrich was looking for some kind of boost in New Hampshire, and this may well give him one. The Union Leader is arguably the state’s most influential media outlet, especially in Republican circles — the paper makes no secret of its conservative perspective — and its endorsement has been widely sought by all of the leading GOP candidates.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/union_leader_backs_gingrich_in033724.php

  23. November 27, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Love this:

    • 222 hopefruit2
      November 27, 2011 at 12:34 pm

      Oh dear…I think these endorsers must have seen Chips’ Mankini photospread and decided that they just had to go ahead and endorse him. I mean who could resist that lovely lemon green Mankini and the even hunkier body occupying it? I’m expecting Chips to post Mankini’s “Thank you TOD” letter any minute now!

  24. November 27, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    AP Newsbreak: Medicare’s drug coverage gap shrinks thanks to Obama’s plan

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Medicare’s prescription coverage gap is getting noticeably smaller and easier to manage this year for millions of older and disabled people with high drug costs.
    The “doughnut hole,” an anxiety-inducing catch in an otherwise popular benefit, will shrink about 40 percent for those unlucky enough to land in it, according to new Medicare figures provided in response to a request from The Associated Press.
    The average beneficiary who falls into the coverage gap would have spent $1,504 this year on prescriptions. But thanks to discounts and other provisions in President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul law, that cost fell to $901, according to Medicare’s Office of the Actuary, which handles economic estimates.

    More here:
    http://news.yahoo.com/ap-newsbreak-medicares-drug-coverage-gap-shrinks-140356865.html

  25. November 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Sorry kasai didn’t realise you already posted this link.

  26. November 27, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    November 27, 2011 11:30 AM
    Proving the 99% right

    By Steve Benen

    When it comes to the circumstances that help drive the Occupy protests, Floyd Norris shines a light on a dynamic that speaks volumes. To put it simply, this just won’t do.


    In the eight decades before the recent recession, there was never a period when as much as 9 percent of American gross domestic product went to companies in the form of after-tax profits. Now the figure is over 10 percent.

    During the same period, there never was a quarter when wage and salary income amounted to less than 45 percent of the economy. Now the figure is below 44 percent.

    For companies, these are boom times. For workers, the opposite is true.

    There’s just no way to spin this. We’re looking at an era in which, at least as a share of the larger economy, after-tax corporate profits have soared to levels unseen since we began keeping track, whole after-tax incomes have fallen to levels unseen in generations.

    The previous record for corporate profits as a share of GDP was 8.98% — set in 1929. Last year, it was over 9.5%. This year, it’s over 10%.

    It’s a Gilded Age that we’re apparently not supposed to talk about.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/proving_the_99_right_1033729.php

  27. November 27, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    NEWT IS A GRIFTER.

    PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

    …………………………

    November 27, 2011 10:55 AM
    Newt, Inc.

    By Steve Benen

    Voters haven’t heard much about it, but Newt Gingrich hasn’t exactly held a real job in a very long time. He has, however, overseen a very lucrative enterprise often called “Newt Inc.”

    Gingrich, you’ll recall, was forced to resign from Congress in disgrace way back in 1998, after his fellow Republicans decided they no longer had use for his kind of “leadership.” In the 13 years since, the former House Speaker hasn’t held or sought public office at any level.

    What’s he been doing? Karen Tumulty and Dan Eggen take a look today at the “business conglomerate” Gingrich put together after his political career was left in shambles.


    The power of the Gingrich brand fueled a for-profit collection of enterprises that generated close to $100 million in revenue over the past decade, said his longtime attorney Randy Evans.

    Separate from all of that was his nonprofit political operation, American Solutions for Winning the Future. Before it disintegrated this summer in Gingrich’s absence, American Solutions generated another $52 million and provided some of the money that allowed the former speaker to travel by private jet and hired limousine.

    Along the way, Gingrich has become a wealthy man, earning $2.5 million in personal income last year, according to his financial disclosure form.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/newt_inc033728.php

  28. November 27, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    November 27, 2011 10:20 AM
    Quote of the Day

    By Steve Benen

    Following up on the last item, Nick Kristof asked former President Bill Clinton for his take on the political dynamic shaping up for 2012.

    Earlier this month, I asked Bill Clinton — who has a better intuitive feel for politics than anyone I know — about Obama’s chances for re-election. “I’ll be surprised if he’s not re-elected,” Clinton said, adding that Obama would do better when matched against a specific opponent like Romney.

    Clinton said that Romney did “a very good job” as governor of Massachusetts and would be a credible general election candidate. But Clinton added that Romney or any Republican nominee would be hampered by “a political environment in the Republican primary that basically means you can’t be authentic unless you’ve got a single-digit I.Q.” [emphasis added]

    It’s always nice when someone of prominence says on the record what many believe but are afraid to say.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/quote_of_the_day_25033727.php

  29. November 27, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Largest Women’s Group WIPP Applauds President Obama’s Support for “Small Business Saturday”

    Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/26/4081359/largest-womens-group-wipp-applauds.html#ixzz1evcf4q2T

  30. November 27, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Grandma got ran over by a reindeer…

  31. November 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Good Morning TOD family.

    I am delighted to hear Newt is moving on up. The more chaos in the Republican party the better.

    this story about the 99% movement I found encouraging. The Amendment will be impossible to pass, but at least we lawmakers putting these bills forward instead of balanced budget amendments and making abortion illegal.

    Rep. Deutch Introduces OCCUPIED Constitutional Amendment To Ban Corporate Money In Politics

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/11/rep-deutch-introduces-occupied.html

  32. November 27, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    CNN has a nice series by Soledad Obrien featuring start up opportunities for minorities.

    This was a great story – a wonderful role model.

    The tech trailblazer behind ‘Black College Football’ video game
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/11/tech-trailblazer-behind-black-college.html

  33. November 27, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    My “green” encouraging story for the day.

    Floating webs that capture sun, wave power
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/11/floating-webs-that-capture-sun-wave.html

  34. November 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm

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    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!Enough of this BS….Let’s all send her a pic of how PBO really connects..what BS

    • 237 ChristiMtl
      November 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      I’m trying to figure out who is @jmeacham.

      What BS….it’s not because they say that lie every freaking day that it will be true eventually. It’s a lie and they know it…

      They have nothing

      • 238 symmetry11
        November 27, 2011 at 1:18 pm

        Isn’t he the co-author of Game Change (Mark Halperin)?

      • 241 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 1:21 pm

        Jon Meachman is the executive editor at Random House. Based on his earlier tweets, he is simply repeating the dog whistle drivel he read in Tweety’s book on Jack Kennedy, apparently. I will be tweeting him and calling him out soon.

        • November 27, 2011 at 2:26 pm

          I thought Meacham was exec. editor of “Newsweek”? Has that changed? Also, did Random House publish Tweety’s book? The irony is that I might have bought Tweety’s ode to JFK if not for his totally inexplicable “marketing” devise to sell his book by dividing dems. by comparing a martyred dead president to our present one. Well Tweety is “dead” to me. All those decades in the beltway has infected him with brain fungus: there is no recovery.

        • 243 Bill
          November 27, 2011 at 3:42 pm

          Meacham was at Newsweek, and when it was sold he went to Random House. He is the pedantic ass often seen on Morning Joe.

          • 244 conlakappa
            November 27, 2011 at 10:22 pm

            Also incredibly emotionless and hardly like someone who can connect with “the people.” He rode in on an “I know about religion and morality” high horse. Maybe he was projecting how people feel about him! Maybe because I went to school in the South with a Meacham or two but this one gives off a whiff of landed Southern gentry/Ashley Wilkes.

      • 245 dotster3
        November 27, 2011 at 3:40 pm

        Wasn’t he the editor of Newsweek? He writes a lot about religious issues. And he hangs out on Morning Joe a lot with all the GOPoliticos where this drumbeat of a message is heard ad nauseum. They keep repeating it with no basis in fact in the belief that if they say something often enough, it becomes accepted reality.

    • 246 Linda
      November 27, 2011 at 1:27 pm

      Meacham is not an Obama fan.

    • November 27, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      Aw, isn’t that sweet? Little Betsy is trying to go all “Karl Rove” on Obama, by attacking one of his strong points. Epic fail Betsy, epic fail. Every time PBO opens his mouth to speak, he proves you wrong.

    • 251 Chi
      November 27, 2011 at 1:59 pm

      Because the job of the United States President working his heart out to clean up the mess left him by a predecessor whose co-commandant and other disciples still storm and control our media…is to ‘maintain an enduring emotional connection with the people’…

      Meacham the jerk thinks that using the word ‘failure’ often in connection with President Obama will somehow make it stick…

      No such luck buddy…

      It is however easier to ignore and dismiss agenda-driven assholes like Jon Meacham who have chosen to sell their patently false versions of this President to influence the outcome of the 2012 elections…

      It is harder on the other hand to swallow the absolutely false crap about the President and his supposed lack of communication spewed on this blog by so-called supporters who ought to know better…

      How incredibly disheartening to read this already debunked nonsense, regurgitated again and again first thing this Sunday morning…

      Sometimes, even ones supporters prove to be as damaging as the opposition…

      • 252 nintendowii10
        November 27, 2011 at 3:15 pm

        And that is why I have dismissed the emoleft whiners who were ready to throw in the towel six months into the man’s Presidency over the American Recovery Act, just because the result wasn’t what they wanted. Forget the 2 million people it put to work, PBO should have vetoed it and left those folks unemployed “because it wasn’t big enough.”

        Then there was the yearlong fight over the American Care Act, all the sniveling and crying over “no public option/no single payer,” the DADT repeal fight, the fight over sending more troops to Afghanistan to dismantle Al Qaeda, the Libya nonsense from earlier this year, the government shutdown fight, and the deficit deal/Supercommittee/AJA fight, all of which have vindicated the President and shown how much smarter he is than these emoleft Monday Night quarterbackers. Had the President listen to them, he’d truly be a failure with nothing to campaign on and a President Willard Mitt Romney would have been a surefire lock, but because PBO ignored these emoleft whiners, he actually has an impressive record which appeals to many independent voters. The Glenn Greenwalds/Arianna Huffingtons/Cenk Uygars/Michael Moores of the emoleft overestimate their relevance to politics as a whole.

    • November 27, 2011 at 2:13 pm

      Pure Bunk. Can someone provide some links of PBO and people. I want to tweet it to these people!!

    • November 27, 2011 at 2:41 pm

      Let me restate that. Although I was technically born when FDR was president, my first conscious memory was Harry Truman. So thinking back on ALL the presidents in my life, Democratic as well as R, I can truthfully say that the ONLY president I have had an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with is BARACK H. OBAMA. Stick that jmeacham, whoever you are.

      • 256 nathkatun7
        November 27, 2011 at 7:39 pm

        I am in the same age category with you Jackie. Unlike you, I remember nothing about President Truman. I was eleven years old when President Eisenhower was re-elected. My first conscious memory of a president was JFK. Like everyone in my age group, JFK was young and exciting. Even more importantly, JFK’s assassination overwhelmed me and made me more conscious of presidents and politics. Like you, however, “the ONLY president I have had an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with is BARACK H. OBAMA.” I don’t care what the pundits say, I think President Obama is one of the best, if not the best, presidents in my lifetime. By the way, although they are now hailed as strong presidents, both Harry Truman and LBJ left office at the hight of their unpopularity.

    • 257 FiredUpInCA
      November 27, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      Two things about Jon Meacham. 1) When Jon Meacham says “the people” which people specifically is he referring to?

      2) This flashback to Jon Meacham talking about Barack Obama’s election night on the Charlie Rose show indicates that this is a long-held belief of Meacham:

      “JON MEACHAM: He’s very elusive, Obama, which is fascinating for a man who’s written two memoirs. At Grant Park he walks out with the family, and then they go away.

      CHARLIE ROSE: Mmm. Mmm-hmm.

      MEACHAM: Biden’s back, you know, locked in the bar or something.

      ROSE: (haughty chuckle)

      MEACHAM: You know, they don’t let him out. And have you ever seen a victory speech where there was no one else on stage?

      ROSE: Mmm.

      MEACHAM: No adoring wife, no cute kid. He is the messenger.”

      WARNING Daily Kos link below. Interestingly, the only other links to this transcript I could find were to far right sites plagued with Obama Derangement syndrome. They use the show, in which two liberal journalists discuss the “creepy cult of personality” of President Obama as proof that the the liberal media now sees what the right wing sees.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/08/657337/-Hesitant-to-post-this

      Before President Obama ever sat down in the Oval Office, Meacham made the psychological assessment that the President is a solitary, elusive and aloof figure who has difficulty connecting emotionally. Meacham has not updated his opinion with current photographic and polling evidence that contradicts his foregone conclusion.

      I would challenge Meacham to name an elected official in Washington that has a deeper emotional connection with Americans than the current President.

      • 258 conlakappa
        November 27, 2011 at 10:30 pm

        Two so-called liberal journalists who to my mind are a couple of Southern, white, toffee-nosed gits who also seem to have a problem with candidate Obama not giving them semi-exclusive access. Whose opinion the candidate didn’t covet or value as much as they thought he should.

    • 259 N
      November 27, 2011 at 3:44 pm

      this is the one criticism of Obama that I don’t understand. just because he does not care to suck up to DC insiders does not mean he doesn’t connect with the public at large.

      • 260 L3
        November 27, 2011 at 3:55 pm

        Exactly, when they say “people” they are talking about themselves. They think he should want to be a part of their little club of elites and if he does not it can’t be that there is something wrong with them; it must be there is something wrong with him. PBO ran for the presidency on a CHANGE platform yet all the D.C. insiders want and expect him, illogically, to behave like every other politician and every other president. Now, that would not be change I could believe in.

    • November 27, 2011 at 3:53 pm

      It’s the exact same kind of thing they did with Al Gore and spreading the lie that he said he invented the internet. Only we didn’ twitter back then to push back on their collective lying a$$es.

      They are using rove tactics and attacking PObama’s Strenghts. A GIANT PUSHBACK IS NEEDED.

      And, the Dean “Scream”. OCCUPY THE MEDIA.

    • 262 anniebella
      November 27, 2011 at 6:11 pm

      What the hell is this woman Betsy talking about? Is their an email address or phone number so I can contact this woman and ask her to explain to me what does she mean.

    • 263 Sue in Minnesota
      November 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm

      Meacham’s greatest failure is his delusional thinking. He should leave his universe of the world according to Meacham and come visit ours for a reality check. He has always impressed me as having his tighty whities in a bunch!

  35. 264 hopefruit2
    November 27, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    I think my President must be sleeping in on this beautiful and lazy Sunday afternoon.

  36. November 27, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    yeah I said it BIG FU………………mofos

  37. November 27, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ben Noland served in the U.S. Marine Corps for eight years, then spent 18 months looking for a job.
    “I’ve probably put my resume in to 300 places in the past year,” the 33-year-old Kenton resident said.
    “The farthest I’ve ever got was a phone interview.”
    Noland finally landed a job installing solar panels at Tipping Point Renewable Energy, a Columbus-based solar power company that is hiring only military veterans for its installation crews at a time when unemployment among former service members is outpacing that of civilians.
    Tipping Point’s efforts echo those of companies and groups nationwide to hire veterans in the green energy industry. Denver-based nonprofit Veterans Green Jobs is one of the largest, having trained or placed 370 veterans in the last four years.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hlf84LydL04QP0qjwY2hF0hqxHiQ?docId=37df820eea904698800d4d4f9b017ff9

  38. November 27, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Hiya everyone, hoping to have my work done SOON so I can catch up with you all.

    Meantime, this is a desperately sad story about the chairwoman of the Irish branch of Democrats Abroad, I’m only mentioning it here as a little reminder to us all – no one more than me – to reach out to those who are struggling:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/1126/1224308160074.html?via=mr

    • 268 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      November 27, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      :sad: :sad: it breaks my heart to read such lost talent. May she RIP.

    • 269 hopefruit2
      November 27, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      A young life with so much potential! This is such sad news and even more so with Meta’s experience yesterday. May she RIP. Thanks for sharing with us Chips.

    • November 27, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      Oh, this is so sad!! My heart goes out to her family.

    • 271 Chi
      November 27, 2011 at 2:11 pm

      This is incredibly sad Chip…

      May she rest in perfect peace and may God bless her loved ones at this very difficult time…

    • 272 globalcitizenlinda
      November 27, 2011 at 5:38 pm

      oh what a tremendous loss! may she rest in eternal peace and may the parents and family be comforted at this critical time. so young, so much promise, so vulnerable

    • 273 nathkatun7
      November 27, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      This is heartbreaking sad story! My heart goes out to the parents. As some one who lost a daughter at a very young age, this is the worst thing that could happen to parents. I pray that Kate’s family finds strength to hold on during this difficult time. May she rest in peace!

      • November 27, 2011 at 9:32 pm

        My heart goes in a path where hopefully the sweet gentle energy will flow from someone near Kate’s mother and father and entire family at this moment. I lit candles in my home for tthem and the story that Meta shared with us last night.

        Thanks Chips for sharing this very sad and moving article. I love the song,”Simple Gifts” such beauty. Sang it in college. Remember, that was one of the beautiful songs performed at President Obama’s Inauguration. That thought came to my mind as I was reading the link to the article that Chipsticks provided. Also reading how Kate was so engaged there with the campaign of POB, and reading that she attended his Inauguration was so moving. This song is so fitting. Just a simple but precious thought running through my mind now. It is a beautiful Irish song that flows so beautifully and simply. So fitting that it was sung at Kate’s service.

        I encourage all of us to always watch and have someone that you can always turn to when you feel a depression coming upon you. I went through that after a break up in a relationship about 14 years ago. I can’t even imagine the thought of someone delivering that message to my mother during that critical and almost career ending and even worse, my life during that time.

        Please as we go into the holidays, many will be carrying into their lives so much pain left over from so much that many of us will not even know, so look closely as you visit, shop, speak via phone, emails with your dear friends and family. Just be engaged with them.

        I was blessed to realize that something medical was wrong, and called a dear friend on my job who came immediately and moved so quickly and got me to a doctor ,after encouraging me to call my neurologist whom I trusted and became a very dear doctor to me. When I called, he took my call, and immediately(because I was crying uncontrollably) asked,”What is going on in your life?” I tried to evade the question, but he was persistent. He asked again in a way that I just spilled out that I had a break up with a man that I had loved for 10 years. My doctor said,” Get to a psychiatrist NOW. I could not have received those words from anyone else except my precious mother, as I think back on that day, my doctor served in that role of my precious mother. It was meant to be him..

        But thanks to that dear friend and high level ‘boss’ who discreetly with the help of her assistant put everything in her very, very important schedule OFF for the rest of the day, and she and the assistant went to work immediately via phone contacting medical doctors in the area. She and that assistant drove me to that psychiatrist’s office. They stayed with me through the entire visit, and because I trusted her, I had the doctor share his findings with her.. Gratefully, I was able to see the psychiatrist and he recommended a psychologist and she and my psychiatrist got me through it. Please keep a dear friend who you can trust and stay connected with, and make sure the person gets medical help immediately for you. It is a medical problem. Do Not be ashamed, and do not allow anyone to tell or make you feel that way.

        Stay close to your friends and family and dear trusted friends. That dear friend, who was a top level boss of mine ,helped save my life that day. I tear up even now to think how precious and dear those two were. ((((((((HUGS)))))))))HZ

  39. November 27, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    NASA’s Curiosity rover flying to Mars with Obama’s, others’ autographs on board

    Hidden in plain sight on the rover’s deck, or its top, is a plaque inscribed with the signatures of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, in addition to other administration and NASA leaders. The etched metal plate, which continues a more than 40-year tradition of sending presidential plaques on planetary missions, is only one of the signature collections on board Curiosity.

    Elsewhere on the rover is the autograph of the 14-year-old girl from Kansas who gave Curiosity its name along with millions of digital signatures from members of the public who signed up through NASA. Curiosity itself will also add its own signature to the martian surface, courtesy of its specially-treaded wheels.

    • 276 Dudette
      November 27, 2011 at 2:58 pm

      Sweet! Smart people, like our President, rock!

    • 278 globalcitizenlinda
      November 27, 2011 at 5:47 pm

      good to hear this.

      ps. I have no clue what has happened to my account but the provision to attempt to log back in seems to have changed. It will not permit to even sign my screen name and email since last night – yet the name shows up in the message to say I the comment is pending . I thought it was temporary bug but it persists.

      I will keep trying

  40. 279 ChristiMtl
    November 27, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    I was looking for this….following what some TODers posted earlier.

    Bill Clinton Praises Gingrich

    Newt Gingrich is raking in the endorsements, but some of them he might be better off without if he wants to persuade the Republican base to support him. In an interview with the conservative magazine Newsmax, former president Bill Clinton praised Gingrich’s intelligence and openness to solving problems. “He’s articulate and he tries to think of a conservative version of an idea that will solve a legitimate problem,” Clinton said. “For example, I watched the national security debate last night. And Newt said two things that would make an independent voter say, ‘Well, I gotta consider that.’ ”

    There’s something I don’t get.

    Why is it that Newt Gingrich is always described as so intelligent. I listened to him many times, he’s an idiot, an hypocrite and a liar. The things he said about President Obama in the past were horrible, things that Glenn Beck would say

    That’s intelligence?

    • 280 Linda
      November 27, 2011 at 1:28 pm

      Clinton needs to shut his pie hole.

      • 281 nintendowii10
        November 27, 2011 at 1:33 pm

        And this is one of the reasons why Hillary was NOT picked as Obama’s VP, Hillary’s loudmouth husband just doesn’t know when to SHUT UP!!! I mean FFS he did his job for the eight years Bush 43 was in office, but now that PBO is in office, Bill years for the days when he was running the show. Bill needs to go suck an egg and shut it!

    • 282 Jessica
      November 27, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      I just don’t understand Bill. For the entire year he’s been undemining the President. When has a former president done that to a sitting president of his own party.

      • 283 nintendowii10
        November 27, 2011 at 1:51 pm

        It’s because Bill is JEALOUS that PBO is ranking up more accomplishments than he had, not to mention fixing all of the fuck ups Bill did in office: mainly DADT and GLB.

        • November 27, 2011 at 2:02 pm

          Bill Clinton is a small, small man.

          • November 27, 2011 at 2:38 pm

            YES HE IS….AND I DO NOT TRUST HIM AT ALL!!!!! A HATER IN MY OPINION…ALWAYS GOT SOMETHING TO SAY…STFU BILL, YOU HAD YOUR TURN IN THE WHITEHOUSE FOR 8 YRS…AND YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR YOUR MISDEEDS WITH MONICA…SIT DOWN NOW!!!!!

        • November 27, 2011 at 2:34 pm

          It’s because Bill’s claim to fame is he is the only 2 term dem. president in modern history. Hence his legacy rests on President Obama not being re-elected. Hope I’m wrong but he was awfully quiet for the whole 8 years when Dubya was destroying America.

          • 287 nathkatun7
            November 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm

            Pamela, you are not wrong. Bill Clinton was not only “awfully quiet for the whole 8 years” of George W. Bush presidency, but he also partnered with Bush senior on a number of projects. By the way, lest we forget, Bill Clinton was the second President, in American history, to be impeached by the House of Representatives though, like Andrew Johnson, he was not convicted by the Senate and removed from office. Ironically, his new buddy, Newt Gingrich was one of the members of Congress pushing for his impeachment. Likewise, his other buddy, John McCain, voted for his conviction and removal from office. In other words, in 1998, both Gingrich and McCain were in favor of removing Bill Clinton from the presidency, two years before his second term ended. Equally ironic, is the fact that Bill Clinton seems to have completely forgotten the role that President Obama played in organizing and registering voters, and especially African Americans in Chicago, in 1991-1992, that helped Clinton win Illinois in 1992.

      • November 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm

        Or maybe, this is coordinated with the WH, as they all prefer to run against Newt than against that other disgusting weasel.

        Just raising the possibility.

    • 297 Lovepolitics2008
      November 27, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      “For example, I watched the national security debate last night. And Newt said two things that would make an independent voter say, ‘Well, I gotta consider that.’ ”

      ok So now Bill Clinton will give cover to MSM to say that Gingrich could interest independent voters ??? !!!!!

      I HOPE he praises Gingrich because he thinks he’s a weaker candidate than Romney in the general. If not, what the hell is he doing ? Gingrich is an AMORAL, CORRUPT, DIVISIVE fellow.

      Bob Altemeyer, the canadian researcher who did a lot of work on authoritarians, sees Newt as someone who would be VERY dangerous in a leadership position.

    • 298 Dakota
      November 27, 2011 at 6:33 pm

      Let’s face it…Bill admires Newt because they have so much in common…philandering kindred spirits!!!

  41. November 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Like Chris Rock said….HILLARY LOST….get over it..lol

  42. 302 bonkers
    November 27, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Why in the world would Clinton agree to an interview with such a vile propaganda mill as Newzmaxxx?!? Those liars probably make Ruturd Murdoch blush with their extreme bullsheet. At first I assumed Bill was doing these kinds of things to tarnish any Repub in the eyes of their voters by attaching himself to them, but now to see him specifically mentioning “independents,” and how they could like a sleeze bucket such as Newt Gangrene, well now I’m not so sure Clinton is trying help us. Weird, weird dude…

    • November 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      sometimes i really feel sorry for Hilary to have to be saddled with this fool 24/7

      • 304 L3
        November 27, 2011 at 2:51 pm

        She does not have to be saddled with him. He has given her more than enough reason to divorce him so her remaining with this idiot is by choice. I would respect her more if she cut him loose. She might even have been president were it not for his big mouth and scandalous behavior.

        • 305 nintendowii10
          November 27, 2011 at 3:17 pm

          Heck, the former Mrs. Sanford, Jenny, dumped that sham Mark and of course the former Mrs. Edwards (may she R.I.P.) dumped that jerk John.

          • 306 L3
            November 27, 2011 at 3:43 pm

            It can be done if you want to do it. She obviously does not.

            • 307 nintendowii10
              November 27, 2011 at 3:47 pm

              Political reasons methinks.

            • 308 nintendowii10
              November 27, 2011 at 3:49 pm

              Also, with her working in the Obama administration as Secretary of State, divorcing Bill would be a HUGE distraction not just for her, but for PBO. Just look at how Al Gore getting his divorce was the talk of the day in the media.

              • 309 L3
                November 27, 2011 at 5:08 pm

                I’m not talking necessarily about doing it right now. Hell, if she’s remained with him after all the shit he’s pulled over the years what would be the point. The best time to do it probably would have been after she won the Senate seat, but her presidential ambitions plus the fact she might actually love the asshole would not allow it.

              • November 27, 2011 at 5:30 pm

                HILARY SHOULD HAVE DUMPED HIM LONG AGO…SHE DOESNT NEED HIM!!!!

  43. 311 MTmarilyn
    November 27, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Desertflower, just wanted to tell you I just voted for your school. Hope you get it!!!

    • November 27, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      Me too, DF! Good luck to your school!

      • 313 desertflower
        November 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm

        Thank you, thank you, thank you, ag!!!!!! You may vote everyday :) The kids will so so happy if we win this thing…and so will the faculty…we’re on a mission! many, many hugs and thanks…

    • 314 desertflower
      November 27, 2011 at 2:43 pm

      OH. thank you so much , Marilyn!!!!!!!!!!!!! The kids thank you :) I hope that everyone here can take a moment and do that…doesn’t cost a thing…Many, many thanks!

      I’ve been absent for most of the morning (except for posting the Kristoff aarticle that set off a vigorous debate :) Fighting with the biting trees in the backyard. I’m exhausted, but it’s a beautiful day today, and rather be outside than in….will check back later….I think those trees are calling my name again! Damn things…naturally, I bit off more than I should have!

  44. November 27, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    via goplitico, that racist nonpareil scumbag, arpaio to endorse perry. buh, bye perry.

    • 316 desertflower
      November 27, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Hate monger trying to stay relevent…he’s next to be recalled….people in AZ are wearing thin on his fearmongering BS/lies…bye Perry. Bye Joe!

    • 319 nintendowii10
      November 27, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      Wasn’t Arpaio supposed to run for President himself? He overestimates his own importance… heck he was recently booed not by OWS, but by the TEAPUGS not too long ago!

      • 320 desertflower
        November 27, 2011 at 3:48 pm

        You know…I really don’t give 2 sh**ts what that nasty man does…no offense to you, nin…but I’m SO over the bigoted, racist sheriff that has cost this county HUNDREDS of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS…while thousands of arrest warrants sit on his desk, he needs a TV show, he needs to get Steven Segal and Ted Nuggent to “join his posse and hunt down brown people”…and that doesn’t even get to the REAL GOOD STUFF!
        This entire world isn’t big enough for this assholes ego…so now he’s decided to endorse the guy that told the republicans they need to “have a heart” and let undocumented get instate tuition? Joe must’ve fallen on his head last night…wonder what made him give that endorsement? Doesn’t sound like Arpiao at all….he’s more a Cain kinda guy…build an electric fence, fry them all, and then let them get eaten by alligators…no mess to clean up.
        He’s a Fing asshole who’s time has LONG since gone! Going to have to find out about this endorsement…Perry will NEVER win. With or without Joe.
        Check PhoenixNewTimes.com…they always have the best coverage of Joe….you can even read about ALL the nasty stuff here…he’s ugly to the bone.

        • 321 desertflower
          November 27, 2011 at 3:49 pm

          He would never vote for Cain…wrong color.

        • 322 nintendowii10
          November 27, 2011 at 3:52 pm

          None taken, just pointing out how much of a blowhard egotistical jerk Arpaio is and that even some of the radicals on his side know it. If the Teapugs are booing him, any “relevance” he once had has come to an unfortunate end!

          • November 27, 2011 at 4:06 pm

            He is so over! 78 years old and he will have to run for his job again in 2012. Good luck to him because there is so much corruption around him that keeps getting exposed. He can run but he can’t hide anymore. He’s failing at his job and he is costing the county $$$$$$$$ in law suits. Bye, Bye, Joey and do let the door hit your a$$ on your way out!

          • 324 desertflower
            November 27, 2011 at 6:22 pm

            Yes…and what Aquagranny said!

  45. November 27, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    So this guy got bored with the default voice on his Garmin StreetPilot c510, so he replaced the British English voice with the voice of guess who?

  46. November 27, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    11/27/11
    David Gregory Commits Journalistic Malfeasance!

    We can’t let Norquist re-write American economic history starting in 1980! But David Gregory does just that on MTP today. David, please put your tax history questions in perspective. Today’s economy relates to the Depression most closely, so…please point out that….From 1940-80 the wealthiest Americans paid between 70% and 90% in income taxes!

    God, after missing the obvious WWII era tax comparison, now Gregory is referencing pre-Civil War history to discuss the presidential race! This is selective amnesia on our true tax history on the part all major media! This can’t be an accident, these people aren’t uneducated, but it will be a tragedy if we aren’t allowed to have an honest discussion of these issues.

    SPREAD THE NEWS…From 1940-80 the wealthiest Americans paid between 70% and 90% in income taxes and in fact that’s how we built the American Dream. Between 1940-80 we fought and paid for WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, we built our US Interstate Expressway system, Roads, Electrical Grid, Telephone, our main Bridges and Tunnels; we Made every Car we Drove and we wore just the Clothes we Sewed and WE WENT TO THE MOON SIX TIMES-AND WE PAID FOR IT ALL!

    There is no other way out of this hole we’re in other than to move back in this direction of higher tax rates on the most wealthy…the 1%.

    http://chipshirley.blogspot.com/2011/11/david-gregory-commits-journalistic.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChipShirley+%28Chip+Shirley%29

    h/t ChipShirley

  47. 354 desertflower
    November 27, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    What we’re up against this election…big money, lies, and Koch Bros spending to benefit themselves….

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45450961/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/#.TtKkcLLRujM

  48. 355 Linda
    November 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Did anyone see Hardball on Friday night.. ?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/45406374#45406374

    It is about a third party and quite disturbing.

    • November 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      Everything on Hardball is disturbing. He’s never right about anything, he’s all about hyperbole and drama for ratings. I wouldn’t take anything on there seriously…better still, stop watching.

      • 357 Linda
        November 27, 2011 at 4:52 pm

        I had expected a sub on Friday due to the holiday. Matthews was off Wednesday..

      • 358 hopefruit2
        November 27, 2011 at 5:33 pm

        For a change it wasn’t so much Tweety who was the problem in this segment..it was his guest. And if you read our comments further downthread, you will observe that the guest’s father comes directly from Wall Street. That’s where he made all his millions and probably did some unethical stuff as well – given the alleged history of the said bank. This is why when David Corn and Tweety started pushing that guy on the disclosure of funding sources, he got rather defensive.

      • November 27, 2011 at 8:04 pm

        Tien Le~ I agree with you about Hardball and its content. However, there’s a group that IS making a serious attempt to create a third party, and they’re putting mega $$$ into the effort. Notice, if you will, the cast of characters…

        Americans Elect seeks to upend primary system

        Via the L.A. Times back in July:

        … nearly 1.6 million signatures collected by Americans Elect, a group attempting to ride exasperation with the nation’s political leaders into a place on the ballot in all 50 states by 2012. Its mission is to upend the traditional party primary process by selecting an alternate presidential ticket through an online, open nominating convention. The group has labored largely under the radar for the last 16 months, raising $20 million while successfully gaining ballot access in Arizona, Alaska, Kansas and Nevada. It is seeking certification in Michigan, Hawaii, Missouri and Florida besides California, with an additional 18 states in the pipeline before the end of the year.

        Still, many of the group’s experienced political operatives hail from centrist circles: Chief Executive Kahlil Byrd is a GOP strategist who worked for Massachusetts’ Democratic governor, Deval Patrick. Pollster Doug Schoen worked for Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign, as well as for New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, an independent. One of the main financial backers is Elliot’s father, Peter Ackerman, a private investment executive who made tens of millions of dollars working with junk bond trader Michael Milken in the 1980s….The group has an eclectic board of advisors that includes former FBI and CIA chief William H. Webster and Republican strategist Mark McKinnon, a cofounder of No Labels, a group that seeks to advance partisanship-free politics. (Bloomberg has backed the efforts of No Labels, but a spokeswoman for Americans Elect said he is not involved in its project.)

        ~snip~

        http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-americans-elect-20110728,0,3697721,print.story

        h/t Matea Gold

    • 360 hopefruit2
      November 27, 2011 at 4:47 pm

      This young man is arrogant and defensive, not to mention SHADY and DISINGENUOUS. Their “organization” is free to pump money into the candidate but doesn’t have to disclose the source of the funding. Haven’t we seen this before? He can’t define what he’s looking for in a candidate – he claims he wants “solutions” which could mean anything and nothing. When challenged by David Corn or Tweety, he gets very angry and argumentative. David Corn is not fooled and cuts right to the chase by asking him what exactly can Paul do as a solution for this country.

      This is a Ron Paul Libertarian fool who clearly has a problem with the current front-runner (who happens to be President Obama), but is too COWARD and dishonest to admit that he does and precisely what that problem is.

      • 361 Linda
        November 27, 2011 at 4:49 pm

        Yes…I agree…. I have to do some detective work to find out about his father and how they made their money.

      • 362 Linda
        November 27, 2011 at 4:59 pm

        Here is the money man….his Daddy.

        Peter Ackerman (born November 6, 1946) is the founding chair of the International Center on Nonviolent Conflict [1] and the managing director of Rockport Capital Incorporated. He chaired the board of trustees of Freedom House from September 2005 until January 2009.[2][3] He is a member of the Board of the Council on Foreign Relations.[1]

        He was born in New York City, New York. As an undergraduate he attended Colgate University. After he graduated from Colgate, he attended the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy where in he earned a Ph.D. in 1976 in International Relations, studying under Gene Sharp and Robert Pfaltzgraff.[4] Dr. Ackerman’s thesis, Strategic Aspects of Nonviolent Resistance Movements, examined the nonviolent strategy and tactics used by people who are living under oppression and have no viable military option to free themselves.

        From 1978 to 1990, Ackerman was Director of International Capital Markets at investment bank Drexel Burnham Lambert

        • 363 hopefruit2
          November 27, 2011 at 5:17 pm

          Thanks Linda!

          And here are some more very interesting (but not surprising) details about that bank….

          // Drexel Burnham Lambert was a major Wall Street investment banking firm, which first rose to prominence and then was forced into bankruptcy in February 1990 by its involvement in illegal activities in the junk bond market, driven by Drexel employee Michael Milken. At its height, it was the fifth-largest investment bank in the United States.[1] //

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexel_Burnham_Lambert

          • 364 Linda
            November 27, 2011 at 5:28 pm

            Wow…. Milken…

            Thank you.

          • 365 Linda
            November 27, 2011 at 5:48 pm

            I bet David Corn will be doing a lot of reporting on this man and his Daddy’s $$$$$$

            Did you notice he said he is a ” volunteer”. He must be a trust fund brat.

            • 366 hopefruit2
              November 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm

              After that segment Corn must have went straight home to have a drink. Because he was in a tizzy with that ridiculous young man. And yes, he will be doing a lot of further research about any shady “third party” group.

  49. November 27, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    The Arab League has approved sanctions against Syria, including an asset freeze and an embargo on investments.

    It comes after months of unrest. The United Nations estimates about 3,500 people have died as Syria has sought to put down anti-government protests.

    The Arab League suspended Syria earlier this month, in a move denounced by Damascus as meddling in its affairs.

    League foreign ministers adopted the unprecedented sanctions at a meeting in Cairo by a vote of 19 to three.

    The move came after Syria refused to allow 4,000 Arab League monitors into the country to assess the situation on the ground.

    Syria, one of the founder members of the Arab League, condemned the sanctions as a betrayal of Arab solidarity.

    Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem accused the league of seeking to “internationalise” the conflict.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-middle-east-15901360

  50. 368 Linda
    November 27, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Here is another good segment

    In 1982 The Senate had ( identified by ideology )

    10 Liberals
    30 Conservati­ves
    60 Moderate ( includes both parties )

    In 1994

    29 Liberals
    35 Conservati­ves
    36 Moderates

    In 2002

    45 Liberals
    46 Conservati­ves
    9 Moderates

    2010

    45 Liberals
    55 Conservati­ves ( Ben Nelson must be one of them)
    0 Moderates

    Houston…­.we have a problem

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/45406374#45422139

  51. 374 carolyn
    November 27, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    I just read the interview with Michelle Obama in the Dec/Jan issue of Reader’s Digest. It is a very good interview.
    I believe one quote in the article explains the Washington press’s problems with the president and his wife. Sharon Malone, the wife of Attorney General Holder said: “There’s a playbook in Washington about what you’re supposed to do…well, she’s not following the playbook.” No, she isn’t and neither is the president. This is why Tweety and other “Washington insiders” gripe. The Obamas are supposed to be bowing to these insiders. They don’t. They are definitely their own, independent, strong, smart, warm people, not following the old playbook. The old insiders can’t stand it. Eventually…about midway during the second term, they will begin go accept it, (I think) and begin to talk about how wonderful and “cutting edge” the Obamas have been….these know-it-alls will be, as usual, late to the party.

    • 375 Linda
      November 27, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      I am so glad they are snubbing the inside the beltway elite.

    • 376 FiredUpInCA
      November 27, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      This reminds me of the campaign when the President refused to give “walking around money” to folks in order to get out the vote. The people used to the old order went to the press and concerned trolled about whether the President could win their state with his abrupt break from tradition. He did.

      Now more than a few pundits are concern trolling about the most emotionally evocative statesman since FDR has trouble connecting. He does have trouble connecting: with all the people that profoundly do not matter and who, more importantly, have shown a consistent resistance to connecting with him and the First Lady, even before they moved into the White House.

      Why can’t he connect is this Silly Season’s version of Why can’t he close the deal?

      After he wins his second term they’ll concern troll about what will mar his legacy and if he will have a higher approval rating than Clinton when he left office.

      They are missing an excellent Presidency. I would almost pity them if I had any respect for them, which I don’t.

  52. 380 Linda
    November 27, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Now that Clinton has shot off his mouth and Newt is the frontrunner…this is an excellent read…long…but easy to skim.

    President Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and the 104th Congress

    http://gunston.gmu.edu/pfiffner/index_files/Page949.htm

    first paragraph


    In January 1995 after the Republican sweep of the midterm elections Bill Clinton was in a world of hurting. The Republicans had just won a historic victory, giving them control of both houses of Congress for the first time in forty years. Republicans gained fifty-two seats in the House and eight in the senate in a clear electoral rejection of President Clinton and the Democrats. Not one Republican incumbent lost his or her seat. President Clinton’s approval ratings had dropped to the low forties, and if he had been up for reelection in 1994, it is likely that he would have been defeated. Newt Gingrich, considered the architect of the House takeover, was seen as the agenda setter for the government, and he was orchestrating a 100 day drive to legislate the Contract with America. In April of 1995 President Clinton was reduced to asserting that the president was still “relevant” to the policy process.

    ( Then it is all down hill for Newt )

  53. 381 eveingeorgia
    November 27, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    RepublicansforObama?! Has anyone else heard of this? Here is the site: http://republicansforobama.org/

  54. 390 Linda
    November 27, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Here is an excerpt from ” Republican Gommorah ” about Newt Gingrich.

    MAX BLUMENTHAL: Well, Newt Gingrich, for example, another person who was viciously abused as a child, Dobson led the coup against Gingrich that helped remove him as Speaker of House — as Speaker of the House when a lot of Republicans were concerned that his leadership was weakening when they were trying to impeach Clinton, because Gingrich was carrying on an affair with a woman twenty years younger than him who was on the congressional payroll at the same time. She’s his wife now.

    When Gingrich decided to resurrect his political career, he decided — the Republican Party is controlled by the Christian right. He’s not a stupid man. “What do I do? I have to confess all of my sins by going on James Dobson’s radio show,” catering to the culture of personal crisis that lurks behind the right’s politics of resentment. And so, that’s exactly what he did. He basically prostrated himself before Dobson, who has, you know, no political — supposedly has no political standing. And the next thing you know, he’s back on the national stage. He’s welcomed at the Christian right gatherings. You can see him on Fox News now. So, that shows, you know, how powerful Dobson is. But it’s not just Dobson; it’s a mentality that defines conservatism.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/4/republican_gomorrah_inside_the_movement_that

  55. 403 CEB
    November 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Sooo, this spineless, whiny guy is picking on a teenager? They can dish it out, but they can’t take it. Think of all of the nasty, hateful, lying things that are said everyday by grown-ass people who should know better, about PBO and his family; this punk is taking revenge on a powerless child who was just fooling around? Arrgh!

    • 404 africa
      November 27, 2011 at 7:01 pm

      I know. But she refuses to apologize and this has increased her followers.

      • 405 desertflower
        November 27, 2011 at 7:11 pm

        I hope she DOESN’T apologize! She’s an adult, certainly able to speak her mind…Lord knows we’ve heard way worse from the certifiably insane TP people….he occupies his time with a high school student? He’s got bigger issues than that…he should tend to them.

  56. 406 hopefruit2
    November 27, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Seems like Mark knoller has finally awakened from the Thanksgiving food coma he’s been in all weekend long. A series of tweets about the EU summit tomorrow.

  57. 409 dotster3
    November 27, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Crazy health care fraudster Fl. Gov. Rick Scott said he will not allow his state to implement the 18mo. old health care act because “it’s not the law of the land”. He’s a nutty, teabagging nutball. As a law prof noted, this announcement puts him at odds with the U.S. Constitution, and he is violating his oath of office.
    http://www.news-press.com/article/20111127/NEWS0107/111127021/Gov-Scott-federal-officials-odds-over-Affordable-Care-Act?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home


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