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afternoon all

Thanks M4O

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Michael Tomasky: A Progressive Defense of the White House on Plan B

Kathleen Sibelius is getting flak for her Plan B decision. But Michael Tomasky defends the administration’s position because of the ethical issues raised by minors using the pill.

I get the reasons for liberal outrage at the Obama administration’s Plan B decision. But I can’t quite join in the indignation. I know that I am a man – a fact I’ve been aware of for some time – and so readers male and female can factor that in here as they wish. But it seems to me that to call this merely a case of politics cynically trumping science is way too dismissive of some concerns that parents with all kinds of political views might have about their teenage daughters buying this pill without their knowledge…..

Full article here

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NPR: For the second week in a row, the Senate on Thursday voted down proposals to extend the payroll tax holiday through next year. In the case of the Democrats’ proposal, Republicans objected to the “millionaires surtax” that would be used to pay for it.

Ever since the idea of the surtax was introduced weeks ago, Republicans in Congress have railed against it, arguing that it is a direct hit on small-business owners and other job creators.

… We wanted to talk to business owners who would be affected. So, NPR requested help from numerous Republican congressional offices, including House and Senate leadership. They were unable to produce a single millionaire job creator for us to interview.

Full post here

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They’re eating each other alive, part 72,393:

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USA Today: As the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq is completed this week, President Obama will kick off a string of military-related events this month by attending the Army-Navy game Saturday.

The Cadets and the Midshipmen tee it up at 2:30 p.m. at Fed-Ex Field in Landover, Md.

Vice President Biden and his wife, Jill, will attend the game with Obama.

Wednesday, the president and first lady Michelle Obama will travel to Fort Bragg, N.C., where the president will address the troops stationed there.

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President Barack Obama attends a National Security Council holiday party at Blair House, across the street from the White House, December 9

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Steve Benen: Rick Perry unveiled a rather ugly campaign ad this week, condemning gays for being able to “serve openly in the military,” and promising voters he’ll “end Obama’s war on religion.”

The Texas governor talked to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer this week, and to his credit, the host asked Perry to back up the language in the ad.

PERRY: [W]e’ve got a federal judge for instance in San Antonio that said these kids couldn’t say an invocation in school. I mean, they say you can’t even use the word invocation at their commencement. I mean, that’s —

BLITZER: Is that President Obama’s war on religion?

PERRY: I’m just giving you suggestions after what we are seeing from the left of which I would suggest to you, President Obama is a member of the left and substantial left of center beliefs that you can’t even have a Christmas party. You can’t say a prayer at school.

I’m beginning to think Perry was not blessed with an overabundance of intelligence….

Full post here

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Oh dear:

Steve Benen: It’s generally not too much to ask that major party presidential candidates know how many Supreme Court justices there are. Alas, Rick Perry, who’s already struggled to be coherent on a wide range of issues, flubbed this one, too.

…. Let’s count the errors of fact and judgment, because this a doozy.

(see post)

I’d swear this guy is getting dumber as the campaign progresses.

Full post here

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Hey, I forgot, it’s Friday! Thanks for the reminder LOL!


265 Responses to “afternoon all”


  1. 4 PoliticalJunkessa
    December 9, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    ♥ ♥ ♥ Good Day Chips! Good Day TOD Family! ♥ ♥ ♥

    Barack Obama Quote O’ The Day

    We simply cannot return to this brand of “you’re on your own” economics if we’re serious about rebuilding the middle class in this country. We know that it doesn’t result in a strong economy. It results in an economy that invests too little in its people and in its future. We know it doesn’t result in a prosperity that trickles down. It results in a prosperity that’s enjoyed by fewer and fewer of our citizens.

    –from Remarks by the President on the Economy in Osawatomie, Kansas, December 6, 2011

    Have a great afternoon, everyone! :-P

  2. December 9, 2011 at 1:20 pm

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  3. 7 Desraye
    December 9, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    I know Micheal Tomasky is not the only liberal that feel this way.

  4. 8 utaustinliberal
    December 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Thanks for the Tomasky article Chips.

    Of course the knuckle draggers in the msm won’t tout this; but Dodd-Frank works. As of today the insurance regulation portion of the law kicks into place and helps consumers not get screwed by insurance companies. Everyday in one way or another, PBO shows us that he’s fighting for the middle and working class and that long term plans are definitely good for the well being of the country.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-dodd-frank-news-you-dont-hear-its-moving-forward/2011/12/09/gIQABo7IiO_blog.html#

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:51 pm

      Excellent information. Thank you.

      “The Federal Insurance Office was created by Dodd-Frank to bring a more national voice to how we oversee insurance. Until now, a federal agency to focus on insurance regulation just didn’t exist….

      The new office doesn’t make many headlines; you won’t see many mentions outside of some trade journals. But industries understand its important: The FIO drew a standing-room-only crowd to its first ever meeting at Treasury this morning. And at that meeting, insurance executives asked the Dodd-Frank agency to bring more federal regulation into their industry — not exactly an everyday affair in Washington….

      Insurance regulation matters. Back in September 2008, it was the collapse of the massive American Insurance Group that was one of the major events that catalyzed the ensuing banking crisis.”

  5. December 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Whats in the Republican Bill
    1. permit for keystone pipeline
    2. EPA regulatory relief (this is so that Republican can halt the EPA regulation)
    3. Extension of the 100 percent business expensive
    4. Unemployment compensation (include drug testing of applicants) what a joke
    5. Restore State flexibility to improve the Unemployment Program(this is so the Republican States can denied unemployment ins.)
    6. Extension of the Pay Limitation for Federal employees (NO raise for federal worker for another year)
    7. End unemployment and nutrition program for millionaires (no kidding)
    8. And For the Democrat, Temporary extension payroll tax cut until 2012 (wow!) Some democrat like, The chairman of the Black Caucus Mr. Cleaver stated they are for all this just to get an extension on the Payroll tax cut until 2012. They are bought and Paid for by big business, because its don’t make sense.

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:19 pm

      Remember, the Senate gets a crack at the bill as well. The way I see it, they take the House bill, keep all the good stuff, get rid of the ridiculous riders, send it back, and dare them to not vote for a tax cut.

      This, from TPM:

      In essence, the House legislation treats the payroll tax cut as a concession, which requires them to pair it with a slew of goodies to buy GOP support. But both publicly and privately, Republican leaders say they support the payroll tax cut and that it must pass — an admission that weakens their leverage in this fight, particularly as the calendar nears January 1, when the current payroll tax cut expires.

      GOP leaders know they have a losing hand, that PBO and the Dems have already won. They just can’t break that bit of news to their Teabagger caucus.

      • December 9, 2011 at 4:56 pm

        Is any body else as sick of these so-called “Republican leaders” as I am? The stupid games they play are immature and destructive and they are clueless about what it means to be a leader. Each time something important happens, the president has to work with a bunch of children with bad attitudes and repulsive habits. I’ll bet he wishes he could just a hire hideous-looking nanny to mind the “little monsters” while he gets work done that actually helps the American people. Maybe Emma Thompson could suit up in her nanny costume to take on the job. On the other hand, I wouldn’t wish these little devils on anyone so nice.

        • December 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm

          Indeed – especially since the tea party is now a figment of their imagination in terms of actual power. They are toothless, except in the minds of the media and the GOP.

    • 15 anniebella
      December 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      dun,that piece of crap is as dead as dead can be.

  6. December 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Just a few words from a mother that reared sons and a daughter. I remember what it was like to be a teenager. I remember never being given an opportunity to speak with my parents on issues of birth control or sex as a teenager. They were great parents…just a little closed on that subject.

    Since I can remember, I have always had an open relationship with my children. We talked about being sexual active at a very young age. I let them know there was nothing I would judge them on and that they could always come to me because…I remember what it was like.

    My sons are older than my daughter. They were taught no means no. They were taught that they were just as responsible to use protection as a girl was. it takes two to transmit a disease or get pregnant. Years ago when my oldest son flew out of town to see an old girl friend we stopped at the local pharmacy to pick up gum for the plane. I sent him to go find condoms with money in his hand and I went out to the car while he paid. That was a routine with both of my sons.

    My daughter still knows that I would take her to the doctor for a prescription for the pill any time she felt ready. With that purchase I feel condoms should be given out by the pharmaceutical companies.

    There are two sides to the plan B story. There was a study done but the test subjects were never as young as 11. That being said…we as parents need to be supportive of our children and help mold decisions from a very young age. Never judge and be honest at all costs.

    • 17 utaustinliberal
      December 9, 2011 at 1:51 pm

      Bravo! Proudmemberofglobalzero. On the other thread, Quiet Observer made this very same point. Why are we as a society so afraid of comprehensive sex education? Why are we afraid of being open with our kids? Why are we so afraid of having an open line of communication with our kids on every subject? I applaud you for the way you’ve raised your children in regards to sex and being honest and open with them. Once again; Bravo!

      • December 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

        We weren’t always afraid. My son is almost 40 and had excellent sex education classes in high school. In recent years Evangelicals and Fundamentalists have taken over school boards and condemned or eliminated a lot of this good education. Instead of moving forward as an enlightened country, we’ve moved backward.

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm

      right there with you proud- thats how I raised my sons too.. however, I was lucky in that my mother was also quite open about sex.. as she was left by her mother with zero info.

  7. 20 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    December 9, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    SEX or JOBS? = you do the math. :wink:

    • 21 jacquelineoboomer
      December 9, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      The very same people who should not be concentrating on SEX (dirtbag Republicans) are now not concentrating on JOBS.

      The math is 0 + 0 = 0.

  8. 22 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    December 9, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    I’m confident PBO and his surrogates will keep their focus on job creation, unemployment extension, and exposing the GOP fraud for who and what they are. Meanwhile the MSM, emoprogs, firebaggers, PUMAS, and anyone on the conservative front can continue to wage hysterics over an issue that can be dealt with later. The majority of Americans aren’t paying attention to these ACTIVIST issues unless it is effecting their pocketbooks, households, or standard of living. Thank GOD we have a president that has a LASER FOCUS!! KEEP HOPE ALIVE!! Obama/Biden 2012.

  9. 25 Fred
    December 9, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    hi TOD family.Thank you for the prayers and kind words towards mom and I.Wednesday night was simply hell! A patient across the hall spent the whole night basically crying;yelling and screaming and not even morphine helped the poor man.NOT single one human being on that 5th floor slept and God bless those nurses because they too were feeling it yesterday.Mom had a bad day from the side-effects of the anesthesia;pain and fatigue and irritation.

    I have to admit I spent the day praying because after I posted the message I went back to the hospital only to find out that mom had nasal MRSA ;was running a fever and right below her got swollen and she was put on blood thinner and that my brother and I have to have ourselves checked for MRSA as well since we kissed and hugged her on Wednesday.My brother did NOT show up at the hospital at all yesterday.I spent the whole time wearing a mask.She’s in isolation now.

    This morning when I got home I found a mountain high pile of dirty dishes and dirty clothes all over the damn place.I sat there and got on the phone trying to call the Insurance company that denied mum rehab for 2 weeks while I was on the way from the hospital . . .

    I prayed for enough calm to tell my brother that he had to go to the hospital. Mom might be moved to a suburb for rehab.I won’t know til later today or early tomorrow morning or the doctor will try to keep her in the hospital for as much as he can.

    I’ll try to get a nap and will check back a little later.thank you again and God bless

    • 26 utaustinliberal
      December 9, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      Hiya Fred. So sorry for all the burden you’re shouldering. Just know that we’re sending you calm and uplifting thoughts. Keep up the strength buddy.

    • 27 donna dem 4 obama
      December 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm

      Oh Fred our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. You get some rest and hopefully things will look a little brighter after you’ve had some rest.

    • 28 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      December 9, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      Fred, you and family continue to be in my prayers.

    • 29 jacquelineoboomer
      December 9, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Prayers and hugs go out to you, Fred. What you are doing to stand by your mom is wonderful, although it takes a lot of strength. God bless you, too!

    • 30 desertflower
      December 9, 2011 at 2:51 pm

      Thinking of you, Fred…it will all be ok. Breathe.

    • 31 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 9, 2011 at 2:58 pm

      (((((Fred & Fred’s Family)))))

    • 32 MTmarilyn
      December 9, 2011 at 3:07 pm

      Oh Fred, our thoughts and prayers are with you. Know that you have support from your TOD family.

    • December 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm

      Oh Fred just read your post. Sorry to hear about this. I’ll be praying for your mom and family this weekend.

      Do get some rest .

    • December 9, 2011 at 3:33 pm

      Oh Fred, what an ordeal. Thinking of you and hoping your Mom recovers from all this very soon, look after yourself.

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:25 pm

      Good grief, Fred. It sounds like you’re in charge of everything. Please be extra good to yourself.

    • December 9, 2011 at 5:06 pm

      Fred, my heart goes out to you. When things come all at once like this, it tries your soul and the only thing to do is put one foot in front of the other and try to make it through the day. It seems as if you”re doing the right thing. You notified the people you needed to, checked the insurance and took a nap, which is the best thing you could do. Dishes and clothes will wait. We’re all pulling for you.

      • 37 HZ
        December 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm

        Hi Fred, just getting the opportunity to sit and read for a little while. My thoughts are deeply on you and your mother and family. I send you my positive thoughts and sincere prayers. Please get as much rest as you can while you take care of your mother. Here come a lot of (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Love you Fred.HZ

        • December 9, 2011 at 5:42 pm

          HZ, we missed you! How have you been?

          • 39 HZ
            December 9, 2011 at 6:22 pm

            Hi Chips. I missed you and my TOD family. I am in bed resting after a very scary bout. However, I am following doctors orders and my body’s brain. I am so grateful to be here. My professional nurse is very watchful and keeps the computer far away. However, I did well with my rest yesterday, so I get a little time to visit.

            Do Not Worry. I am going to beat all of this. I will not give up and my doctors understand that as well. I listen and converse with all of them, and they listen to me as well.

            I miss being here everyday, but I am going to be good and follow instructions. I do not like being down.

            Thanks for your thoughts of me, Chipsticks. You are the best, Chipsticks. I am so grateful for our TOD Family. You and our family here keeps so many of us in an upward move, and I want to thank you for making that possible, Chipsticks. HZ

            • December 9, 2011 at 6:29 pm

              Oh, HZ. Wishing you positive and healing thought. Much love HZ.

            • December 9, 2011 at 7:33 pm

              HZ, so sorry you’ve been having a bad time again, please look after yourself.

              This line made me smile:

              “My professional nurse is very watchful and keeps the computer far away.”

              :-) A big hello from TOD to your nurse!!

              Stay strong HZ, and get better VERY soon. Thrilled you’re back.

            • 42 LunarSea
              December 9, 2011 at 9:46 pm

              Keeping you safe in my thoughts -sending the bright light of healing energy to surround you and keep you strong. {{{{hz}}}}

            • 43 lovingandlaughing
              December 9, 2011 at 10:22 pm

              So nice to see you back here HZ. No one uses words in as lovely a way as you. Follow the nurse’s orders, rest well and you will get well. Love and peace to you.

          • December 9, 2011 at 9:09 pm

            Take care, Ms HZ, you are a light! We feel you shining our way even when you must rest. I hope you feel the loving hugs TODers are sending your way.

    • 45 Obama Grandmama
      December 9, 2011 at 7:27 pm

      My prayers are with your Mom and you, Fred. I am taking a lot of interest in your posts because I am due to have a total knee replacement in March. I had not been thinking of the pain part so that scares me. I have enough to think about right now to make arrangements for myself after the surgery too. Right now I am helping my brother with my 87 yr old Mom who is taking a chemo drug for 4th stage lung cancer. That is why I have put off the knee surgery till March.

    • 46 LunarSea
      December 9, 2011 at 9:51 pm

      Oh Fred. So sorry to hear all you’ve been going through. When you start to feel like you can’t handle anymore just remember, it gets better!

    • 47 lovingandlaughing
      December 9, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      Thinking of you Fred…

  10. 48 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 9, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/12/09/john-king-calls-point-set-match-obama-presidents-ask-osama-bin-laden

    I don’t if you all saw this, but John king of CNN did a good job with the “ask Osama bin Laden” quote. I apologize that’s a RW rag, just don’t read the comments

  11. 66 Linda
    December 9, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    The 99% Mic Check Sen. Lindsey Graham

    Wow…some of them pretend the protesters do not exist and just keep on eating…

    Is that Arugula Salad ???

    • 67 nospin
      December 9, 2011 at 2:25 pm

      I think this mic check crap is rude. I don’t care which party is doing it. It is just rude and doesn’t do their cause any justice.

      I would ignore them too and keep on eating.

      99%ers – 0
      Repubs – 1

      • 68 Linda
        December 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm

        How do you suggest they get their attention ? They won’t even meet with them at the Capitol . They run away from them or hide in back rooms and sneak out back doors.

        I think it is the elected officials that are being rude by ignoring their constituents. Some of them refused to have town halls..Others tried to charge fees for access.

        Something has to happen.

        • December 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm

          They do it to the President too!

          • 70 Linda
            December 9, 2011 at 2:52 pm

            I have only seen that a couple times and he address his hecklers..he does not run away from them.

            • 71 jacquelineoboomer
              December 9, 2011 at 3:09 pm

              Yes, he often tells them he understands their POV. Treats them with a degree of respect. Remember when one guy was leaving and/or being escorted out or something, and he made sure he took his jacket with him?

            • December 9, 2011 at 5:11 pm

              That’s because our president is the ONLY class act in town. The Lindsay Grahams of the world are punk amateurs who are uncomfortable talking to people who don’t agree with them.

        • 74 nospin
          December 9, 2011 at 3:29 pm

          How do they get their attention?

          they can occupy the voting booth and replace these jackals.

          This nonsense with interrupting folks by yelling and chanting is downright rude and should be ignored regardless of the message.

          Whenever I see this, I visualize my kids yammering on in the background and I tune them out. There is a way to engage and this is not it.

          • December 9, 2011 at 3:42 pm

            I think it has to be a two front campaign. Episodes like these do have their place. But, yes, in the end, if you want a more liberal Congress, you actually have to do the work to get a more liberal Congress elected—at the very least pull the damned lever. Liberal candidates want your votes, not your performance art.

            • 76 nospin
              December 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm

              It is surprising to me that folks act like this stuff is brand new. It isn’t. To effect the change they want to see means GOTV.

              You said it best LL — “Liberal candidates want your votes, not your performance art.”

              That would make all the difference in the world.

          • December 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm

            they should also occupy congress in droves and leave PBO outta it.
            ps- they don’t really accomplish anything with mic check its just rude and boorish.

            • 78 nospin
              December 9, 2011 at 4:29 pm

              “they should also occupy congress in droves ”

              you would think that would be Plan A especially to get the AJA passed.

      • December 9, 2011 at 2:36 pm

        I like that that the 99%ers are finally finding the right targets fr their ire. Last week they occupied k-street lobbyists. Now the rethugs. I like where they’re going now. Next stop media, esp pox news and limbaugh,

        • December 9, 2011 at 4:03 pm

          I like the fact that the 99% is making them uncomfortable. there is no polite way to get these folks to listen. this experience will stay with the folks who were at the table and everyone in he restaurant. It puts folks on notice that the 99% will not be silent. It also offers hope tot he other folks in he restaurant who might have financial issues or know folks who are suffering.

          I thought the President handled his mic check really well and the protestors thought that too. I think PBOs response was a sharp contrast to the Rep response so bring it on. It allows folks to see that PBO is sympathetic and many Rep. are not.

          • 81 geegee
            December 9, 2011 at 7:00 pm

            It’s amazing to me that we (some) seem to be more concerned about our elected officials feelings, than they (elected officials) are about ours :no: .

            • 82 nospin
              December 9, 2011 at 8:21 pm

              I would say that it is not about being concerned about an elected official’s feelings. It has more to do with being productive and not wasting time interrupting folks believing that being rude or creating drama helps in any way to make the case or increase support to a cause. I will take this group more seriously when the majority begins to echo the message for passing the AJA and supporting more of the initiatives that the President is pushing that is in the interest of the 99%.

  12. December 9, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Now that OWS isn’t actually occupying any real estate, am I the only one who thinks the movement is morphing into something that might actually be useful? Camping out in Zuccoti park wasn’t going to change 30 years of conservative economics. But “occupying” GOP offices might have an effect—not one of GOPers changing their minds, but of influencing public opinion back in home districts. The next few months should be interesting, as the movement is forced to give up showy gimmicks and actually get into the mud of politics if it wants to have any influence.

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      I think they’re maturing and moving ahead in the learning curve.

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      Certainly, the seiu part of OWS is interesting.
      But remember, OWS has many faces.

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:53 pm

      Like I said when it was happening, Bloomberg and the other mayors were doing the movement a huge favor by kicking them out of the encampments. The encampments had long since outstayed their welcome in the communities and were turning supporters against the movement. Being kicked out forced them to adapt or die – the camps were sure death to the movement.

    • 89 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 9, 2011 at 2:59 pm

      I’ve always thought it had huge potential for good. The motto alone is a game changer and attention getter.

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:25 pm

      I agree – LL – It was taking up most of their time and energy to deal with living togehter, dealing with the homeless, and dealing with cops and the City. Now they can concentrate on more concrete and achievable goals.

      1. occupy houses in foreclosure
      2. protest against banks and encourage folks to move their $$
      3. support local small businesses

    • December 9, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      I have washed my hands permanently of these OWS folks. Some hacking group loosely affiliated with Anonymous released the names and addresses (including children’s names) of the family members of the LAPD. The dozens of names included retired officers and many who had nothing to do with the OWS arrests. The hacking group claimed they were doing it because they were upset with the way the OWS folks were treated. Granted, the material they posted was publicly available, but associating it with the OWS arrests makes everyone on that list a target for the unhinged.

      I initially didn’t blame the OWS folks for this irresponsible action, until some representatives of OWS declared their solidarity with the hacking and said that the police deserved to have their lives endangered. I haven’t heard any of them denounce these actions – even after hearing that innocent children may be endangered by this action. And at least one officer said he had received phone calls at his home complaining on behalf of the OWS folks.

      The LAPD deal with some very tough criminals, and in a lot of cases, they do good. The majority of the interaction with the OWS was actually mutually respectful, and there were many people who praised the conduct of the LAPD.

      I don’t know who these OWS people are, and I’m sure there are many decent people mixed up in it who aren’t aware of these subversive elements. But, I didn’t discount the danger of the tea party people just because there were some people who were misguided in the bunch. Dangerous is dangerous. In my view, they have not accomplished anything tangible that would move the plight of the unemployed or homeless further one iota. They would have done much more good calling and pressuring their Congressional representatives over these several weeks, and amplifying the President’s message. I am done with them. Endangering the lives of police and innocent children does not make sense.

  13. 92 jacquelineoboomer
    December 9, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Jay “Clark Kent” Carney sure found his stride early on, and is still going strong with the jackals. Great job.

  14. December 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Ok, just testing something, so forgive the repeated images of Governor Arnold…

  15. 94 donna dem 4 obama
    December 9, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Can someone please tell me how this dumb guy could have been considered a “rising super star” in the Republican Party? Exactly how does he pull the wool over people in Texas that vote for him? He is dumber than a box of rocks.

    He constantly makes errors regarding facts and just seems plain dumb. Voting age-21yrs old, Date of 2012 Election-November 12th, Can’t remember which agencies he will get rid of, number of supreme court justices-8 (Eight).

    This guy is giving SP (I can see Russia from my house) a run for the money. Geesh!!

    The hits just keep on coming….

    Perry Flubs The Number Of Supreme Court Judges
    Talking to the DMR board, Rick Perry says, “For Washington to be able to tell a local school board that you cannot have prayer or a time of prayer, I think most Americans find that offensive.” He goes on to say he trusts local school boards “over eight unelected and unaccountable judges,” and then notes that that’s why he’s called for the abolition of life-tenure on the Supreme Court.

    The Supreme Court, of course, has nine judges, not eight.

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/2612

    • December 9, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      This dumb brick is toast. Let’s not worry about him.

    • 100 L3
      December 9, 2011 at 3:23 pm

      Donna, I’ve heard that people in TX do not vote in large numbers. Only 33% of eligible voters cast votes in the last gubernatorial election and he received what turned out to be the votes of about 19% of eligible TX voters. I can’t remember where I read this but if it’s true it explains why he is governor and why we keep repeating this nightmare of electing radical and breathtakingly dumb Republicans to office. People don’t vote.

      • December 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm

        If true, that just pisses me off. People all over the Middle East are literally dying for the right to determine their own fates, and a large segment of our citizenry can’t even be bothered to participate in the most basic ritual of our democracy. You basically deserve the government you don’t bother to vote for.

      • December 9, 2011 at 6:27 pm

        I also heard that the field is usually crammed with candidates, so even though he only gets less than 20% of the votes, the other parties split the vote, so Perry ends up getting a majority. Dems could overcome him by unifying under one candidate and then getting out thte vote. Might be nice to see Texas go blue – can you imagine?

    • December 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      Donna, that is the $64,000 question for me. I know he’s yesterday’s news but how did he get the reputation he had for being invincible? I can see all the rest acting out of pure ego–nobody ever touted Cain, Santorum, Bachman as powerhouses, but Perry was supposed to come in and clean up in every primary. How could he have hidden this level of dumbness for 10 years? He has been nothing but a disaster since day one and needs now to slink back to Texas and hope they’ll let him back into the statehouse. Surely there is someone in the state who can defeat this moron.

    • 104 dotster3
      December 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm

      I would think Texans might be more than a tad embarrassed that the lack of intelligence, to put it nicely, of their governor is being unveiled for all to see. It is quite amazing—-horrifying?—-that this person of such limited awareness has been elected to run a state. And, sadly, he’s not the only governor who shouldn’t have reached that important office. But at least the others are not so dumb to believe they could be a legitimate presidential candidate.

  16. December 9, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    I hope the UK likes being in “splendid isolation”…

    European leaders say 26 out of 27 EU member states have backed a tax and budget pact to tackle the eurozone debt crisis.

    Only the UK has said it will not join. Prime Minister David Cameron said he had to protect key British interests, including its financial markets.

    The 17 countries that use the euro have all agreed to the deal.

    Nine other countries have said they will sign up, some pending consultations with their parliaments.

    Hungary originally said it would also remain outside the deal but has now changed its stance.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16115373

    • December 9, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Labour leader Ed Miliband said the prime minister had “mishandled these negotiations spectacularly”.

      “It’s a terrible outcome for Britain because we are going to be now excluded from key economic decisions that will affect our country in the future,” he said.

      Mr Miliband said Mr Cameron had not “put in the hard yards of negotiation” that were necessary to build alliances and strengthen his position.

      “What I find incredible is that he simply ended the negotiations yesterday and said that was it. He could have carried on negotiating today to get a better outcome for Britain.”

      ‘Tough rules’

      Mr Sarkozy said Mr Cameron’s insistence on a protocol allowing London to opt out of proposed changes to the rules governing financial services was “unacceptable”, because a lack of regulation was behind much of the debt crisis.

      German Chancellor Mrs Merkel said: “I didn’t think David Cameron sat with us at the table.

      “We had to get some sort of agreement and we couldn’t make compromises, we had to meet tough rules.”

      UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said the outcome was “the worst of all worlds” for the UK, leaving the country in Europe but without power.

      ‘Absolutely nothing’

      Labour and UKIP both warned that Mr Cameron had actually secured no new safeguards for the City of London – despite stating that that was a priority.

      Mr Farage said: “We finish this summit with Cameron having gained absolutely nothing, with the prospect of us repatriating powers having disappeared completely and with the City of London, that he sought to protect, now more vulnerable than it has ever been.”

      Foreign Secretary William Hague said earlier that signing up to the amended EU treaty would have led to the UK handing over more national sovereignty to Brussels.

      But German MEP Elmar Brok said the rules would have had “no impact” on Britain because they only applied to eurozone countries and said Britain was now “isolated and marginalised”.

      UK Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg – whose Liberal Democrat party is more pro-European than their coalition partners – said he regretted the failure to reach an agreement with all 27 EU states but said Mr Cameron had simply been seeking a “level playing field” across Europe.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-politics-16116276

  17. December 9, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) – Europe secured an historic agreement to draft a new treaty for deeper economic integration in the euro zone on Friday, but Britain, the region’s third largest economy, refused to join the other 26 countries in a fiscal union and was left isolated.

    The outcome of a two-day European Union summit left financial markets uncertain whether and when more decisive action would be taken to stem a debt crisis that began in Greece in 2009, spread to Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain and now threatens France and even economic powerhouse Germany.

    A new treaty could take three months to negotiate and may require losable referendums in countries such as Ireland. While nine non-euro-zone countries said they would join the euro zone in backing it, there were quickly notes of caution from some corners, including the Czech Republic and Hungary.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7B30AO20111209?irpc=932

    Dow up 200pts!

  18. December 9, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    President Barack Obama attends a National Security Council holiday party at Blair House, across the street from the White House, December 9

  19. December 9, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    The last phase of a $32 million Recovery-funded housing facility for wounded soldiers and their families was recently completed at the U.S. Army’s Fort Campbell, Kentucky. The new Warriors in Transition Barracks (WTB) includes 206 beds in apartment-like modules with bathrooms and kitchenettes.

    WTBs are housing complexes designed to help recuperating service men and women who no longer require hospital care but still need a healing environment. Their families are also able to live with them.

    Clark Caddell JV of Tampa, Florida, received $25 million in Recovery funds for constructing the Fort Campbell barracks. Nationview, LLC, a small business in Birmingham, Alabama, received $7 million for constructing the administration and operations facilities.

    Another WTB built with Recovery funds was opened in June at Fort Bliss, Texas.

    http://blog.recovery.gov/2011/12/07/helping-warriors-come-home/

  20. 129 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I wish the people of Texas realize tthat they made a mistake and vote democrat in 2012. Rick Perry is making Bush sound very smart.

  21. 130 Linda
    December 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    oy..

    I just saw on Martin Bashir that Cain will be doing debate analysis on Fox.

  22. 137 LOL
    December 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Hey Chip don’t forget its Friday (Jeez already) And you know what that means:)

  23. December 9, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Ok, I just watched Mars Attacks!!!! Tell me, why does Callista Gingrich remind me of this.

    • 143 anniebella
      December 9, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      I am shock. John King said that. I don’t know what to say. Except I hope Newt, Romney, Santorum, Bachmann didn’t have any trouble reaching Osama bin Laden in Hell. I’m sure he would have accepted a collect call from those GOP clowns.

    • 144 vitaminlover
      December 9, 2011 at 8:32 pm

      I still don’t like his hair.

  24. December 9, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    OMG, I can’t stop laughing!!

    WASHINGTON – Business mogul Donald Trump said Friday he might scrub a presidential debate that so far has drawn only Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum.

    Trump, the reality television star who has not ruled out an independent White House bid, had hoped for all of the Republican candidates to join in a debate he would moderate Dec. 27 in Iowa. Most have decided not to, leaving only Gingrich, a former House speaker, and Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator.

    “I have to look into it,” Trump told Fox Business Network when asked whether he would host a two-candidate debate.

    Trump was most indignant about Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann skipping out.

    “She came up to see me four times. She would call me and ask me for advice,” Trump said. “She said if she wins, she would like to think about me for the vice presidency. Most importantly, I did a two-hour phone call for her with her people. … And after all that, she announced she was not going to do the debate. It’s called loyalty. How do you do that? It’s amazing to me.” …

    http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20111209/ap_on_el_pr/us_trump_republicans

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm

      Oh God, please please please induce Donald to run as an Independent.

      • December 9, 2011 at 4:36 pm

        Can you believe the ego on this nitwit? It’s just unbelievable. He’s been crowing all week about how everybody loves him and of course they’ll all line up to participate because he’s so brilliant and rich and they all know he pulls a lot of weight in terms of endorsement, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah. I’m glad he being shunned like a skunk but we all know he is a shameless idiot.

    • 149 Linda
      December 9, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      “I have to look into it,” Trump told Fox Business Network…..

      Yeah…he called in to the Imus show.

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:52 pm

      Brawawawawaaaaa!! T-Rump slithers around with poisonous snakes and he whines about “loyalty”. ROFLMAO! The Quack a VP in a bachmann admin. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Stupid asshole.

    • 152 majii
      December 9, 2011 at 5:58 pm

      I have a strong belief that God handles people like Trump, and looking at the failure of the majority of GOP 2012 candidates to participate in his debate, and how pizzzed he is about it, I would say that he’s been served a dish of something he never expected–rejection! IMO, God has shown him that his ego and wealth can’t buy/win him everything he wants. IMO, it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving individual. People don’t “love” him as much as he’s convinced himself that they do. It’s too bad that he didn’t pay attention to what people were saying when he announced he was hosting a debate in Iowa because he would have noticed that the majority of them were laughing and ridiculing him.

  25. December 9, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Romney v. Kennedy debate, 1994

    • 154 anniebella
      December 9, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      Which Romney are we listening to there? He don’t feel that we should force our beliefs on anyone one. What happen?

  26. December 9, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Greetings TOD family, still hoping to catch up so I can post more stories and make more comments.

    After reading the comments of LL above I waned to share this story about Occupy occupying foreclosed houses. A good example in Wisconsin.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/12/occupy-group-finds-solidarity-with-anti.html

  27. December 9, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I have been trying to feature stories about companies that are hiring.

    Today’s story is

    We’re hiring! : Pure Romance

    If the company showed the wet picture of President O during the parties, they would double their sales.

    the good news is :
    “The company will be adding 25,000 more consultants in 2012 and 30 full time employees, despite the worldwide economic downturn. “Ours is a recession-proof business model. Lots of women finding themselves having to work a second shift or even a second job, find that Pure Romance offers them a chance to own and operate their own business.”

    The bad news is that after posting this story I had to go sit on the naughty mat….. Maybe it’s time for the picture of that cute dog on the naughty mat.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/12/were-hiring-pure-romance.html

  28. December 9, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Expect the ME to literally blow up with a Gingrich Administration. From TPM:

    Newt Gingrich did an interview with The Jewish Channel, and had some interesting comments about the Israeli-Palestinian peace process — possibly leaning toward the expulsion of the Palestinians.

    • December 9, 2011 at 4:48 pm

      I can’t bring myself to watch but it looks like he should be running for Santa not POTUS.

      • 159 nospin
        December 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm

        lolololol meta. How can you say that about the Mankini?

      • December 9, 2011 at 5:49 pm

        OMG – I actually think he would be a worse Santa than Pres and it is clear that he would be a really, really bad president. Either way he would scare the children of the world.

        • December 9, 2011 at 6:33 pm

          As Santa, instead of bringing gifts for the kiddies, he’d put them to work in sweat shops. As president, instead of giving all kids the chance for a good education, he’d put them to work in sweat shops. Either way, for Eye of Newt, it would be a win-win.

    • December 9, 2011 at 5:30 pm

      Newt is flat out dangerous and shouldn’t be anywhere near any levers of power. What could more destructive to the future of the United States than to make mortal enemies of every Muslim in the world as well as every Arab? He is freaking nuts.

      • 164 ChristiMtl
        December 9, 2011 at 5:48 pm

        I still can’t believe that he wants John Bolton as Secretary of States…….I agree with you Jackie, he is freaking nuts.

    • December 9, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      I can’t see the video from work, but I am now following Newt on twitter, and he said that on Day 1, he would move the US embassy to Jerusalem. I tweeted him back to ask him what he’ll do on Day 2, when the world is facing the consequences of those actions – and I asked him if he thinks the rest of the world would just be paralyzed and unable to act.

      He’s extremely dangerous.

  29. December 9, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    CALL TO ACTION – an new Friday Tradition

    I have been thinking about how inspirational it is to hear about folks who are working for PBO. The end of the week seems like a good time to take note of what we do and share it here. It can be anything examples include
    utaustinliberal Tweet battle
    phone calls, we made to Congress
    OFA activities
    etc…….

    Let’s toot our own horn and inspire others to do the same. We are such a hard working group, we need to celebrate our efforts.

    I’ll start

    Last Tuesday we had 3 folks at my house phone banking local 2008 supporters who we invited to join us for 1 on 1s, come to our office Xmas party and go to Reno to help with the caucas.

    We called 150 phone numbers, had about 10 folks sign up to have 1 on 1s and got 2 party goers. I was able to practice talking to 1 SO disappointed Dem. and managed to at least get her laughing and open to being called again next year.

    It was a little thing, but it has made me feel wonderful all week. I really like the other volunteers in our OFA group and every time we do something like this it bolsters my spirits. (it also motivates me to sweep up all the dog hair and clean the house).

    Your turn……..

  30. 167 SueBee
    December 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    I am feeling a momentum shift for the Obama Administration, let’s work on keeping it all the way up until November 2012. Also, I need someone to put a muzzle on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, his comments on Morning Joe this morning gave the Republicans a little ammunition. These Democrats need to learn how to go in for the kill..

  31. 177 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Chips, I am steaming MAD. That was a very ICONIC MOMENT,”Ask Osama Bin Laden” BUT the PLs are complaining that he shouldn’t have said it. First they call him a pussy, weak, caver then he fights back now all of a sudden they are mad. I will find that link of an article that has me boiling mad.

  32. December 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    What a bonanza of great info and listening. Yahoo Chips. Good work. dr

  33. 184 auni
    December 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    I watched the White House briefing this am. The bitch who sits in the middle of the front row (someone told me her name and I forgot it) said that women’s groups are going to consider not bothering to vote next time because they are so mad at the President for agreeing with not having the Plan B pill over the counter. She is such a skank–smirks at whatever passes for negative stuff directed at the President.

    • 185 Linda
      December 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm

      Are you thinking of Norah O’Donnell ? She is a liar and always has been . I have not read any complaints except from the far left and they complain about everything.

      • 186 ChristiMtl
        December 9, 2011 at 5:53 pm

        It must be Norah O’Donnell….she’s such an idiot like the rest of them…….always protecting the GOP at any cost. The ones who complained are the ones who always complain….no surprise there.

        Katrina Vandel Heuvel, Joan Walsh….etc…….bitter PUMAS.

        • 187 Ladyhawke
          December 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm

          Can you imagine what she would be saying if the decision had been the reverse?? Trust me on this one. She had a snarky question ready to go no matter what the decision was on Plan B. That’s the problem with the jackals. No matter what this administration does they search out the negative angle. No matter what. That is precisely why President Obama has to do so many local interviews. He can’t count on the jackals to just report the facts. They thrive on controversy.

    • 188 Desraye
      December 9, 2011 at 5:51 pm

      Yea the women’s groups will not vote next year. LOL Who will they vote for? Romney? Gingrich? They left suck.This will not even be a issue next year.

    • December 9, 2011 at 6:48 pm

      And then what? Don’t vote, Republican who has said he wants to revoke Roe v Wade gets in. Republicans take over all other Federal chambers and pass Sharia-like laws that essentially take away rights of women to do everything – including vote. Usher in an era of GOP lawlessness that affects the next several generations? They can’t be that dense.

  34. 193 Ladyhawke
    December 9, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN KING OF CNN??

    Seriously, I just got back after being out all day. I watched the “Point – Set – Match” video and I almost fell out of my chair. I kept squinting and rubbing my eyes because I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing. I don’t watch CNN because they are too much like Fox. But I have to say i am completely blown away by this report from John King. I hardly recognize him. I don’t think I have ever heard him report something so factual without the GOP spin. This was extraordinary coming from CNN. King essentially called out the GOP false claims and reported the facts. Imagine that?? What a concept. If only this was the rule and not the exception. The GOP knows how to work the refs. Could it be that they are losing their touch. I certainly hope so.

    • December 9, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      I think I and many others really smacked him on his lie re: polls show PBO will lose re-election. I think he is trying to crawl back across that line of sh*t he crawled over. He is still a slimeball and so is the rest of CNN!

    • 195 dotster3
      December 9, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      I just had a thought—TaDa! I wonder if all those in the media who have been slamming Obama because they were trying to help Romney—–and now see Blingrich rising to the top—–have decided they prefer Obama to horrible, slimy Newtie Patootie.

      • 196 Ladyhawke
        December 9, 2011 at 7:34 pm

        I am still baffled dotster3. But I did so another post where Wolf Blitzer (of all people) apparently challenged Rick Perry about that stupid ad about LGBT and President Obama being against religion. Just asking the question made Rick Perry look like a fool. Because he had nothing to backup his claim. It was guilt by association. Again, it’s amazing what happens when reporters just ask the obvious question when somebody makes an outlandish criticism. I am sure Perry did not expect to be challenged at all.

        I am so repulsed by Gingrich. It makes my skin crawl whenever I see or hear him speak. That pompous voice. He has such an unctuous demeanour. He loves the sound of his own voice and he thinks he knows all. He is the perfect leader for the birthers, baggers and blowhards because he is the biggest blowhard of them all.

    • 197 EDP4BHO
      December 9, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      Don’t get too excited. Maybe just a bit of Xmas cheer round the office. It won’t last.

  35. 198 Linda
    December 9, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    oops

    The House payroll tax bill will add $25.3 billion to the federal deficit over the next 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/198455-cbo-projects-gop-bill-would-add-253-billion-to-deficit

  36. 199 Lightfoot
    December 9, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Oh My God!!!! What a SMACK DOWN!!!! :-D

  37. December 9, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    December 09, 2011 09:01 AM
    Color of Change Launches Campaign Against ALEC-Inspired Voter ID Laws
    By Kenneth Quinnell

    Activist group Color of Change launched a campaign on Thursday to combat right-wing voter suppression legislation pushed across the country by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Conservatives say that voter identification laws and other legislation are needed to stop voter fraud. But with little to no evidence of any significant voter fraud anywhere in the country, the real intent of the legislation is to suppress voter turnout for groups that typically vote for Democrats, including minority groups. Interested citizens can visit the Color of Change website to send the following letter to corporations that are funding ALEC’s programs:

    ~snip~

    http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/color-change-launches-campaign-ag

  38. 201 desertflower
    December 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    WiW…you may want to add this to your site…..Made in America things…..:)

  39. 205 relellit
    December 9, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Good afternoon Todville
    W-T-F is wrong with Chris Matthews? In his “Let me Finish ” segment tonight he is rooting for Newt. And likening our President to Carter. Is this what they pay him for? I can’t believe MSNBC continues to let him do this. I know it’s owned by the gazillion dollar Comcast; but Pleaeezzzeee, MSNBC is supposed to be leaning forward; not backwards.

    • 206 Desraye
      December 9, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      Don’t worry about. Let them hype Newt. Remember want Newt to bethe nominee. He be much easier for PBO top beat.Also the president likes to be the underdog.Meanwhile, OFA is organizing in several states. It is all about the ground game.

  40. December 9, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    FYI – the CBS Evening News will feature a clip of PBO’s interview with Steve Kroft for 60 Minutes to air on Sunday.

  41. December 9, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Meet The 4 Bush Vacations That Were Longer than Obama’s Christmas
    December 9, 2011
    By Jason Easley

    Republicans are outraged over Obama’s 17 day Christmas vacation, but George W. Bush took at least 4 vacations that were longer than Obama’s including one scheduled for five weeks in August 2005.

    George W.Bush’s August 2005 vacation which was scheduled for five weeks, but was cut short by two days due to Hurricane Katrina, was at the time the longest presidential vacation in 36 years.

    In August 2002, Bush took a 25 day vacation away from the White House that was once again sprinkled with day trips to make it look like the president was still working, but after these little trips, he always returned to Crawford not D.C.

    The most infamous of all Bush vacations was the 27 day break he took in August of 2001, one month before the 9/11 attacks. In August 2001, the AP wrote, “President Bush seems to bolt from the White House every chance he gets. He begins a month-long vacation on his Texas ranch today, and by the time he returns he will have spent nearly two months of his presidency there. And that doesn’t include the many weekends he’s spent at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland’s Catoctin Mountains.”

    ~snip~

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-bush-christmas-vacation

  42. December 9, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Undocumented immigrant booted from Romney event
    By David Edwards
    Friday, December 9, 2011

    A former Washington Post reporter, who says he’s also an undocumented immigrant, was kicked out of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s town hall event in Iowa Friday. Jose Antonio Vargas showed up at the Romney town hall in Cedar Rapids holding a sign that read, “I am an American w/o papers.” “

    I [was] just kicked out of a Mitt Romney rally here in Cedar Rapids, escorted out by an Iowa cop,” Vargas later tweeted. “I could not ask a question.” “I was not causing a ruckus. I was merely trying to ask a question, which is what a journalist does,” he added.

    The Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter made headlines earlier this year when he revealed that he had been in the country illegally for nearly 20 years. “On the surface, I’ve created a good life. I’ve lived the American dream,” Vargas wrote in a 4,300-word article published by The New York Times. “But I am still an undocumented immigrant. And that means living a different kind of reality.” “I’m done running. I’m exhausted. I don’t want that life anymore,” he explained.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/undocumented-immigrant-booted-from-romney-event/

    • 214 Linda
      December 9, 2011 at 6:37 pm

      That is different than the story I read at huffpuff where Vargas used to be a contributor.

      That story states that he was at the town hall and when the Q&A started he raised his hand for a question and one of Romney’s people stood in front of him to block him so Romney could not see he had his hand up.

      Then after there was another meet up with reporters in a different room and when he went in without press credentials he was asked to leave by the owner and a private security cop.

      • 215 maritza
        December 9, 2011 at 6:56 pm

        “That is different than the story I read at huffpuff”… Funny! Huff and Puff has been a joke for a bunch of years.

      • December 9, 2011 at 8:56 pm

        Linda~ there’s a photo with the article that I mentioned that shows a man holding a signs which says: “I am an American w/o papers.” I assume that it’s Vargas but can’t tell exactly where he is.

    • 218 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      December 9, 2011 at 6:56 pm

      This will hurt Romney very bad with the Latino Vote. Shame.

  43. December 9, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    What utter bullshit!~

    Hannity: Osama bin Laden is dead ‘thanks to George Bush’
    By David Edwards
    Friday, December 9, 2011

    In Sean Hannity’s world, President George W. Bush succeeded in killing terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. The Fox News host on Thursday noted that bin Laden was dead “thanks to George Bush.”

    During a segment on Time magazine’s top 10 news stories of 2011, Democratic consultant Joe Trippi lamented that the death of the al Qaeda leader didn’t make the list. “Thanks to George Bush,” Hannity interrupted, ignoring the fact that bin Laden had been killed under President Barack Obama’s watch.

    “You’d give credit to Bush?” he asked Trippi. “Because if Obama had gotten his way we wouldn’t have gotten bin Laden, you know that.”

    “No matter what, Osama bin Laden — getting him is the number one story of the year, I would think,” Trippi replied.

    ~snip~

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/hannity-osama-bin-laden-is-dead-thanks-to-george-bush/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    • 220 Linda
      December 9, 2011 at 6:33 pm

      Who is this Joe Trippi and why didn’t he stand up to KKKlannity ?

      • December 9, 2011 at 6:45 pm

        He’s been a political consultant for ages. Worked on Dean’s campaign and most recently, John Edwards. So not much recent success.

      • 222 relellit
        December 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

        Joe Trippi is a very weak democrat whom I liken to Micheal Steele when he used to appear on FOX NOISE. I think Trippi worked on Clinton’s campaign. Remember how Steele used to pander to KKKanity and the rest of the bigots there. Steele would drop his head in an Uncle Tom fashion and even call Hannity brother.
        Now since he has been hanging out on MSBNC, after the RebupliCONs fired him he does seem to be liberated. At least he doesn’t drop his head or suck up to the hosts.

        • December 9, 2011 at 8:01 pm

          Trippi worked for the llswer John Edwards campaign.

        • 225 Chi
          December 10, 2011 at 10:34 pm

          Joe Trippi is not so much a ‘weak’ Democrat, but rather a very self-serving, self-described ‘centrist’ (right-wing) sort…

          He is more in it for what it gets him – wealth, influence, access, bragging rights…

          Joe Trippi worked on Jerry Brown’s gubernatorial campaign here in California…

          Joe Trippi does not support President Obama and so will sit idly by as people blatantly lie about the President and his accomplishments…

          Joe Trippi will only play when he’s paid…He is not a Democrat and does not necessarily work for or defend Democratic ideals…

          He only happens to have worked on campaigns for certain Democrats …no different really from Hillary Clinton campaign strategist Mark Penn…

          These folks actually despise and resent President Obama as much as their republican ‘campaign strategist’-counterparts …

          If President Obama or the campaign paid Joe Trippi, he would have responded completely differently to Sean Hannity’s bull…

          These are not honorable or principled men, and the fact that they sit in on Sean Hannity’s show tells you quite a bit about them…

          (I saw snippets of Jerry Brown being interviewed by Sean Hannity…! Yes, good old ‘principled’ Jerry who as California’s governor really has no reason to show up on Hannity…whatever for…? Jerry Brown really does not need Hannity’s audience to do his job properly or more effectively as the governor of California…)

          These are the things that continue to make for intense head-scratching wonderment in these most revealing age of Obama times…

    • December 9, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Ahhhh repugs. Always trying to rewrite history. :roll:

      • December 9, 2011 at 9:02 pm

        LOL! If the day ever comes when they’re all booted out of office, they can apply to Cirque de Soleil as contortionists–since they’re so skillful at tying themselves up in knots!~

    • 228 halo
      December 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      THATS RICH!

  44. December 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Oh, wow. This is sad.

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  45. December 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Look at the republican, republican, republican schedule for Sunday shows?/

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70220.html

    Thank God for 60 minutes. Jeesh!

  46. 238 collegekay
    December 9, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    I was watching CBS Evening News and they’re so doom and gloom about PBO. Their new polls have his approval at 44%, people saying he doesn’t deserve to be relelected at 54%, and people thinking the country is going in the wrong direction at 75%. They say 66% of people don’t even know what he’s accomplished. Well guess what, IF that’s true I blame the idiot media.

    I usually take these polls with a grain of salt but damn I’m tired of them comparing him to Carter. I can’t wait till Sunday to watch the interview.

    • 239 Linda
      December 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm

      oh yawn……there must be at least 10 polls a day. I am shocked they is not polling on how many think that being left handed is a negative for President Obama and could cause him to lose the election.

    • December 9, 2011 at 7:20 pm

      Seriously, people don’t know what he’s accomplished? Heads in the sand, for sure. Or just willful ignorance. BTW, a LOT of this doesn’t square with other polling so I’d like to see more about their sample.

    • 241 Desraye
      December 9, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      The MSM has an agenda. Since it don’t seem like the economy is not going to crash and consumer are confident about spending money, they MSM has to find another narrative to bash PBO with. So they are goin with people hate PBO and they may not vote for him next year.If the American people aren’tt going to vote for PBO next year, then who will they vote for, because it sure won’t be the curent GOP contenders.Remember PBO likes to be the underdog. He hasn’t started campaigning yet. The people will know what he has accomplished once he campaingn.You don’t underestimate Barack Obama.

  47. December 9, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Very negative polling out tonight from CBS. Beware.

    • 243 collegekay
      December 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm

      You saw it too, meta? Unbelievable.

      • December 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

        I didn’t see it but CBS tweeted it. Makes me sick. I was going to watch but I think now I’ll skip it. These jerks sicken me.

        • 245 collegekay
          December 9, 2011 at 7:17 pm

          I usually don’t watch but I wanted to see the preview of PBO’s interview that’s gonna air on Sunday.

          • 246 EDP4BHO
            December 9, 2011 at 7:43 pm

            CBS has been negative about PBO since the beginning. Steve Kroft has his bit of snark also. I don’t trust nary one of these stations, nor their idiot personalities. If we keep looking for positivity from any of them, we will continue to be disappointed or pissed off. I’d like to watch any interview with PBO but I see most of them do not mean him well. It’s all exploitative for their own benefit. My take.

        • December 9, 2011 at 7:27 pm

          Yeah – I’m skipping it, too. Don’t need to end the week on that note – when the truth and reality are the exact opposite. If people don’t vote for this President in 2012, then it’s going to be a very ugly future for them.

        • December 9, 2011 at 7:34 pm

          I read it. CBS was looking for a negative headline and got it. Actually his approval ticked up 2 points. So there was Some good some bad some ugly. 54% say don’t deserve re-election however 46% blame the GOP for gridlock and 2-1 still blame Bush for this mess.All his personal attributes in the high 50s including Strong Leader.
          They did not poll him against Romney or Gingrich.

          • 249 halo
            December 9, 2011 at 7:37 pm

            ” 54% say don’t deserve re-election however 46% blame the GOP for gridlock and 2-1 still blame Bush for this mess.All his personal attributes in the high 50s including Strong Leader.”

            Those numbers don’t make any sense.

          • 250 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
            December 9, 2011 at 7:43 pm

            Even Bob Sheiffer admitted during that segment that they didn’t poll him against any Republican and that’s the GOOD News. I watched it but didn’t like it either.

          • 251 criquet
            December 9, 2011 at 8:24 pm

            The thing with these polls is that we need the breakdown and to know the sample polled, where etc. Also some of the 54 %may be disgruntled “liberals’ who are upset about who knows what but many will probably vote D all down the ticket in 2012.
            Remember how with the Healthcare Law, 14% of those who disapprove were those saying it did not go far enough.
            These people spew out polls but the meaning needs to be properly interpreted but we should still take note.

    • 252 maritza
      December 9, 2011 at 7:17 pm

      Meta, let’s turn this around and make a “Reelect (that one) President Obama” night by donating!

    • 253 donna dem 4 obama
      December 9, 2011 at 7:46 pm

      Yeah, my all news radio station was quoting this poll tonight on my drive home. He gives a great speech earlier this week, smacks down the Repubs on Foreign Affairs yesterday after seeing the unemployment rate drop last week so they come out with this crap. They are all so predicable.

      “One man running for president has suffered the most unrelentingly negative treatment of all: Barack Obama. Though covered largely as president rather than a candidate, negative assessments of Obama have outweighed positive by a ratio of almost 4-to-1″

      http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2116/media-primary-news-coverage-blogs-republican-presidential-race-barack-obama-rick%e2%80%94perry-herman-cain

      • 254 Desraye
        December 9, 2011 at 7:53 pm

        And that’s the thing. This poll was probably taken before any of what mention happen.

      • 255 dotster3
        December 9, 2011 at 8:02 pm

        If that poll is going to be a big part of the 60 Minutes interview, then I’m going to be very suspicious—–even more suspicious than I usually am of most of these polls and their methods and their timing. I’ve seen too many in the same pattern—–a successful appearance/event by Obama, a small blast of good news and then ka-boom!—-tamp it down, take him down with some bad news poll. Over and over and over.

        • 256 Janelle
          December 9, 2011 at 8:14 pm

          Yep, they do it every time. I’m very suspicious as well about this 60 min. interview—-I have a feeling no matter what the President says, the commentary will be negative, snarky and aimed at bringing PBO down a peg or two to purposely diminish what he’s trying to do and has done. It really doesn’t matter the interviewer now, they’ve been given their marching orders from higher ups because they are nervous about the Republican field. The 4th estate has long since gone.

        • 257 EDP4BHO
          December 9, 2011 at 8:26 pm

          And as we’ve seen many times, people tend to believe what they see rather than hear. If they see bad numbers, they believe there’s something bad about the person spoken of. We not only have lazy press, we have very lazy citizens, especially during times like this, when folks are more concerned with the holidays and such. This is the best time for Dems to be airing positive ads, while people are in their best moods.

  48. 258 Britt
    December 9, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    I read a Huffo headline on another website, that OWS raided Law and Order SVU’s set. Didn’t click on the link, don’t want to give Huffo hits, but I think OWS is becoming worse than the Tea Party. What is the point raiding LAOSVU’s set. They need to leave Mariska and actors alone.

    • December 9, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      I’m not really grasping what’s supposed to be happening with OWS at this point. In my city, they just got moved out after having been in an encampment for weeks. It was becoming a very filthy health hazard, lots of homeless were gravitating there and nearby small businesses were complaining about lost revenue. I think in the beginning they really did raise awareness to the issues, but now I don’t understand why sitting around in tents all day on public land is supposed to mean anything more at this point, why occupying space is the most important thing to them. It really became more of a freak show, and then more about engaging with the police.

  49. 261 dotster3
    December 9, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Don’t know if anyone has linked to this but saw it referenced on twitter and find it very interesting:

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/12/obamas-conciliatory-rhetoric-vs.html#comment-form

  50. 262 EDP4BHO
    December 9, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Check this out, folks. We need to be up on this continually.

    “This year, two-thirds of state legislatures have introduced laws that undermine the right to vote. Early voting and Sunday voting are under attack, photo ID requirements will introduce the first financial and document barrier to voting since the poll tax, and racially-motivated bans on ex-felons will wipe tens of thousands off the rolls.

    This effort is unprecedented, it is coordinated, and it is targeted. African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans, Native Americans, students, working women, seniors and immigrants of all colors will be disproportionately affected.”

    http://www.stand4freedom.org

    • December 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm

      Advancement Project Releases Civil Rights Restoration Guide for Virginia

      December 5, 2011

      We are pleased to announce the release of our updated “Virginia Civil Rights Restoration Guide.” The most current guide follows a version released in 2008 designed to help people convicted of felonies restore their civil rights. Virginia is one of only four states in the country whose laws forever strip individuals’ civil rights upon a felony conviction, including their right to vote, unless individually restored by the Governor. In 2004, Jeff Manza and Christopher Uggen’s study, Locked out: Felon Disenfranchised and American Democracy, estimated that 387,000 Virginians had been stripped of their rights to vote, run for public office, serve on a jury, and serve as a public notary.

      The 37-page restoration guide contains step-by-step instructions on how to determine eligibility and how to apply directly to the Governor for restoration or petition the court for initial review. It also contains application forms, criminal code reference tables, public notary information, and instructions on how to obtain or correct identification. A Spanish version of the guide will be available in the coming weeks.

      Advancement Project is publishing an updated version of the guide to assist disenfranchised people, their families and friends, community leaders, and volunteers with navigating the restoration process. It is the first of a series of community tools offered by Advancement Project to support community members’ efforts to restore their civil rights. As a supplement to the guide, Advancement Project will also offer training for community groups on how to undergo the process starting in January 2012.

      We encourage community members and local partners to access an electronic version of the guide at http://www.advancementproject.org/digital-library/publications/virginia-…. If you would like to inquire about hard-copies of the guide, please contact Richael Faithful at (202) 728-9557, ext. 339.

      http://www.advancementproject.org/news/alerts/2011/12/advancement-project-releases-civil-rights-restoration-guide-for-virginia

  51. December 9, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Here is Sec. Sebelius’ language. Please share with all who are freaked out over this decision.

    http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/12/20111207a.html


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