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catching up

Demonstrators gather in front of the White House, Feb. 4

Statement by the President on Syria

Thirty years after his father massacred tens of thousands of innocent Syrian men, women, and children in Hama, Bashar al-Assad has demonstrated a similar disdain for human life and dignity.  Yesterday the Syrian government murdered hundreds of Syrian citizens, including women and children, in Homs through shelling and other indiscriminate violence, and Syrian forces continue to prevent hundreds of injured civilians from seeking medical help.  These brutal killings take place at a time when so many Syrians are also marking a deeply meaningful day for their faith.  I strongly condemn the Syrian government’s unspeakable assault against the people of Homs and I offer my deepest sympathy to those who have lost loved ones.  Assad must halt his campaign of killing and crimes against his own people now.  He must step aside and allow a democratic transition to proceed immediately……

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Ezra Klein: The strangest thing about January’s jobs report is that it’s pretty much all good. The headline numbers are great, of course: payrolls are up by 243,000 jobs. Unemployment is down to 8.3 percent. But the inside numbers are good, too.

…. The report also deals at least a slight blow to the case for economic pessimism. For months, forecasters have been telling us that though the end of 2011 was strong for the economy, the data showed the beginning of 2012 would be weak. That could still prove true. But we’re not seeing a slowdown in January’s payrolls. Just the opposite, actually.

Which isn’t to say there aren’t some areas of concern…..

The bottom line is that this isn’t just a good jobs report. It’s a recovery jobs report. It’s showing the sort of numbers that win elections. As my colleague Neil Irwin tweeted, “That sound you hear is champagne corks in the West Wing.”

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279 Responses to “catching up”


  1. 4 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    February 4, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    https://twitter.com/#!/AFreeHuman/status/165931542248562688

    Expect we will be hearing from President Obama soon.

    #PRESSON

    • 5 desertflower
      February 4, 2012 at 6:08 pm

      Is this up to date, Bob? I see reference to NATO on the right side of the page

      http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/Syria

      • 6 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        February 4, 2012 at 6:26 pm

        df, “NATO” is indeed prominent in the tags on that blog and that’s consistent with how often both the blog posts and Disqus comments mention it.

        A few things to know about the Syria and Libya blogs, in particular. They are being heavily attacked by paid spambots with truly hateful disinformation. We know who these folk are and friends of my are constantly flagging them and reporting them to AJE and Disqus moderators, but they are almost impossible to stop due to the nature of how Disqus functions. So, if you are not familiar with whom the legitimate folk are posting Disqus comments, you will be reading blatant Assad propaganda/lies. Plenty of healthy disagreement among the respectful and responsible participants in the discussion (just as was the case during the entire Libyan struggle for liberation last year).

        #PRESSON

        • 7 desertflower
          February 4, 2012 at 6:59 pm

          Thank you for you insights. I know that you have been passionate about the ME and their quest for freedom and democracy. I respect your thoughts and opinions on this :)

    • 9 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      February 4, 2012 at 6:19 pm

      For those who tweet, it would be great if you used the #messages2syria and sent a few. Syrians all over the world, but especially in Syria, very much appreciate the out-pouring of support.

      Thank you.

  2. 11 GGail
    February 4, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Those clever people at OFA are always connecting with people :-)
    Goooooooo Giants!

  3. 20 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/02/the-socialism-bowl.html

    Oh dear…should we tell them it’s socialism?

  4. 21 nintendowii10
    February 4, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    I have no dog in this fight, because my team, the Steelers, got Teblowed :evil: although I am rooting for the Pats because I want Eli to get humiliated in his brother’s hometown, and I gotta root for the underdogs.

    • 22 defytheodds
      February 4, 2012 at 6:32 pm

      “my team, the Steelers, got Teblowed” That’s too funny.
      No worries, Brady will win & ease your “Teblow” pain…

      • 23 nathkatun7
        February 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm

        Don’t count your chickens yet! The Giants are the real underdog given their record. That’s why I am rooting for the Giants. I want an upset. This is a hard choice for me because I have family both in Boston and New York.

        • 24 utaustinliberal
          February 4, 2012 at 8:57 pm

          No no no no no Nath. It’s Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PATRIOTS! The Patriots are the underdogs here. The Giants stole their victory in 2008 and it’s time for some well deserved payback! :D

          • 25 nathkatun7
            February 5, 2012 at 1:33 am

            Well UT, I love you so much, but I am still rooting for the Giants. I have nothing against your Patriots. In fact my cousin in Boston is angry with me. The reason I am rooting for the Giants is because the so called experts never expected them to come this far. No one gave them a chance against Green Bay. They were even regarded as underdogs against my beloved 49ers! I felt bad when they won but they gained my respect. IMO the Giants are the true underdogs. They are going against a team with the best record in the AFC, a legendary Quarterback and a Coach who is regarded as the best in the history of football. Any way, I hope the game will be as exciting as it was in 2008!

            Look at this way UT: the Giants won in 2008, and so did our beloved President Obama. I am not superstitious or anything like that, but it’s rather strange that the same team that was not given a chance to win in 2008 and won is the same team repeating in 2012 when the President is up for re-election with all kinds of experts predicting his defeat. So, UT, I wish I could be with you and my cousin and her daughter in Boston, but I can’t! Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Giants.

  5. February 4, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Huh…where’s the “I don’t give a rip” poll button?

    • February 4, 2012 at 6:21 pm

      I agree. I am watching for the commercials and the beer.

    • 28 Pamela
      February 4, 2012 at 6:40 pm

      Tried to find that one, TienLe, but without your genteel wording!

    • 29 africa
      February 4, 2012 at 6:42 pm

      Ditto. My day to watch Lifetime, all day.

    • 30 57andFemale
      February 4, 2012 at 6:42 pm

      This!

      • 31 Pamela
        February 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm

        I think I last watched a super bowl when GreenBay won Super Bowl II, was it 1967, guys? After that, traveling the world was much more compelling for me!

    • 32 LunarSea
      February 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

      LOL Have to laugh at everyone’s semi indifference. That’s because it is now a contest between New England rivals. New Your and Boston fans are duking it out.

      Reminds me of when the yankees & mets faced off in the world series. Huge news everywhere you went in NY & Jersey, but to the rest of the country it was ‘meh’

      This is what it is with these two rivals with their rabid fans

  6. 33 isonprize
    February 4, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    YEAH BABY!!! GREAT DAY TODAY!!! Got more sigs for Pres. Obama on the PA ballot!!!

    OUR TEAM DID ALMOST 1,000 this week!!! WHOOOOOOOOO BABY!!!! After church and Super Bowl parties tomorrow, I know we will top 1,000 signatures!!

    Got new volunteers, new voter registrations!! Even had a lengthy conversation with someone about the “detention” issue. Referred them to Linda and her “What is Wokring” website.

    I AM SO PSYCHED!!!

  7. 36 collegekay
    February 4, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Definitely NY. I hate the Cheatriots lol.

    • 37 CTGirl
      February 4, 2012 at 6:30 pm

      Go Giants! Hopefully the right Eli will show up tomorrow :-)

    • 38 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2012 at 8:59 pm

      Oh hell no Collegekay. I’m going to have to duke it out with you. The Giants are the cheaters. They stole the Patriots victory in 08 and it’s time for some well deserved payback. Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PATRIOTS! :D

  8. 39 isonprize
    February 4, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    :lol: :lol: PS. Since my Eagles aren’t in the “Big Game” Where is the “don’t give a damn” side? :lol: :lol:

    • 40 CTGirl
      February 4, 2012 at 6:32 pm

      What do you think about Andy keeping Juan as D Coordinator?

    • 43 anniebella
      February 4, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      I’m along time Dallas Cowboys fan :( , and I can not root for the N.Y. Giants. So I guess I’m going with pretty boy Brady. :)

      • 44 isonprize
        February 4, 2012 at 6:41 pm

        Anniebella,

        As an Eagles fan, I suppose since I know your Obama heart, I can forgive you! :grin: We do have this in common — I can’t root for the Giants either!!

      • 45 nathkatun7
        February 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm

        Why do you hate the NY Giants? Is it because they humiliated your Cowboys?

      • 46 Dave
        February 4, 2012 at 9:44 pm

        I feel your pain. Here in New Mexico I’ve had Cowboy Disease all my life. (55..yikes!) It’s an incurable disease i think. Once you get it you never get rid of it. I just WISH…..WISH they could have a NEW OWNER and get rid of that flamin jackass-jerry…and….and…AND…………maybe move to a deccent state???? The Albuquerque Cowboys!! Ok, that’s selfish. How about the Vermont Cowboys!!!???!

    • February 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm

      I have no clue about football. I’ll be cheering on the puppies on Animal Planet with Puppy Bowl 8.

    • 48 yardarm756
      February 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      I don’t care who wins either. I’m looking forward to a big bowl of seafood gumbo and Chiati wine. :-D

  9. 50 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    February 4, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    I ALWAYS GO FOR THE UNDERDOG…UNLESS IT’S A REPUBLICAN..THEY’RE ABOUT AS LOW AS YOU CAN GET..I LET MY CAT KICK SAND OVER THEM!

  10. 65 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    February 4, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    THEY SPENT $10 MILLION TO PUT SAND IN A STADIUM FOR AN NFL SUPERBOWL EVENT…AND IT WILL TAKE $5 MILLION TO CLEAN IT OUT! THE REPUGS. IN INDY HAVE RIPPED OFF THE TAXPAYER AND OUTSOURCED JOBS. I HAVE HOMELESS WITH NO TEETH…THAT’S WHERE I STAND ON THE ENTIRE SUPERBOWL SCENARIO!

    • 66 isonprize
      February 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm

      What??? Sue, seriously, I’ve heard nothing about this. What’s the story behind the sand? I don’t get why they would need sand in the first place.

      • 67 SUE DUVALL SMITH
        February 4, 2012 at 7:45 pm

        THERE ARE SEVERAL EXPENDITURES THE INDY STAR WON’T TOUCH OR THE MEDIA FOR OBVIOUS ‘REPUBLICAN’ REASONS. MY OTHER HALF IS WITH IMPD AND THEY GET ALL THE NEWS ON THE $$$$$$$ SPENT FOR THIS EVENT. THE POLICE ARE ALSO EXTREMELY UNHAPPY WITH REPUBLICAN TABS BUILT IN THIS CITY…DON’T BE SURPRISED IF YOU SEE SOME REAL SHAKE-UPS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WHAT REALLY UPSETS ME IS THE FACT THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SACRIFICED THE MIDDLE CLASS FOR THIS EVENT..AND YET WE STILL HAVE SO MANY COPS AGAINST PBO…BECAUSE OF ‘THE GOOD OLD BOY SYNDROME’ AND NOTHING ELSE. THE SOURCE ON THE SAND WAS FROM INSIDE THE DEPT….BUSCH STADIUM.

        • 68 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          February 4, 2012 at 7:48 pm

          EVERYONE IS OF COURSE QUITE AWARE OF THE MILLIONS SPENT TO UPGRADE GEORGIA ST. WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS A GREAT INSIDER WHO CAN DIG UP ALL THE COSTS FROM DANIELS’, BALLARD AND OTHERS WHO HAVE PLAYED WITH THE NUMBERS IN THIS CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME! IT’S DISGUSTING!

          • 69 JoJothecat
            February 4, 2012 at 11:35 pm

            That’s is why as a SoCal resident I could careless about a football team when we can educate our young and take care of our poor. When we can do that then if the city wants to pay to let a team come here, let the owners pay for a top notch education and help the homeless.

    • 70 MTmarilyn
      February 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm

      I so understand Sue. What most people don’t understand is that the NFL is a socialist organization because they have profit sharing. That isn’t capitalism. Why don’t they use that money to help the people of the towns they are in. I am sorry Indy is going overboard for this. These people do not see the poor at all. Thank goodness there are people like you and all of us who will be fighting to keep these teapubs out of power. Blessings to you.

    • 74 anniebella
      February 4, 2012 at 6:43 pm

      Sue, I understand where you are coming from, it is shameful.

    • 75 defytheodds
      February 4, 2012 at 7:02 pm

      Sue, Some people have no compassion for human beings after birth.
      And, they’re definitely not concerned about the very poor…

      • 76 SUE DUVALL SMITH
        February 4, 2012 at 7:50 pm

        WE HAVE 3,000 KIDS IN INDY THAT ARE HOMELESS…AND THE NUMBERS ONLY INCREASE…FASTER THAN WE CAN FIND HOUSING. DANIELS AND HIS CRONIES ARE DISGUSTING AND I’D SURE LOVE TO AUDIT HIS BOOKS!

        • 77 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          February 4, 2012 at 8:00 pm

          I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST SPORTS…BUT THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY HAVE TAKEN A BACKSEAT TO IT FOR YEARS. THEN THE CITY ENDS UP IN THE RED ON THEIR INVESTMENTS. THE MIDDLE CLASS IS OUT OF JOBS AND THE POOR ARE WANDERING THE ALLEYS. MY COMPLAINT ABOUT SPORTS IS THAT PLAYERS ARE PAID TOO MUCH…WE NEED SCHOOLS,INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS. IT’S THE TEACHERS WHO SHOULD BE PAID WELL TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN. OUR PRIORITIES ARE IN THE ‘FILL IN THE BLANKS!’ OUR PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO CHANGE THAT…THE REPUBS OF COURSE DON’T WANT PRIORITIES IN THE RIGHT PLACES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO POCKET PROFIT… PERIOD. THE SAME GOES FOR HEALTHCARE…PBO IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND I AM SO PROUD OF THEIR ‘HEAT’ TEAM AT THE WH…UNCOVERING ALL THIS MEDICARE FRAUD. THE REPUGS. DON’T WANT ANYTHING UNCOVERED. THEY WANT TO HOLD ONTO THEIR SPECIAL INTERESTS AND WILL SACRIFICE ANY HUMAN LIFE OR DESERVED HEALTH CARE IN ORDER TO GET THERE. GREED PERSONIFIED! I THANK GOD FOR OUR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A MESS ON OUR HANDS CLEAR ACROSS THIS COUNTRY!

          • 78 dotster3
            February 4, 2012 at 9:01 pm

            Beyonce is reportedly being offered $100 million to judge on the singing contest show, X Factor. Figure that one out. And try to justify it.

            • 79 utaustinliberal
              February 4, 2012 at 9:23 pm

              Dotster. Love ya, but please you should know those are rancid rumors from trashy tabloid magazines. She’s not being offered anything, Simon hasn’t contacted her, they’ve denied the crap story but tabloids want something juicy so they keep reporting trash. Don’t put some tabloid rumor on her and make it sound as though she’s some out of touch person who is gleefully and greedily bleeding people dry.

          • 80 Cindy Sweatt
            February 5, 2012 at 12:49 am

            Well said, Sue. You put my exact feelings into words. It just seems so out of wack.

  11. 81 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Like I was saying earlier…voter fraud. Done the republican way. Often.

    http://progressiveerupts.blogspot.com/2012/02/gops-voter-fraud-problem.html

  12. February 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    susan g. komen PR peeps are already on the case. Just saw a commercial on ION tv. Ha! :roll:

    • 89 isonprize
      February 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm

      SGK knows that they ripped themselves a NEW ONE, after last week. They also know that folks will be on them like white on rice to see how much more BS they are willing to sling. As I’ve said in other threads, they will never, never, never. never. never. NEVER, NEVER (did I say never? I meant NEVER ) get one penny out of me.

    • 93 desertflower
      February 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm

      Too late. Can’t put that genie back in the bottle. Thank you, Ari Fliesher, for exposing them so nicely

  13. February 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    TAMPA — Most of the political world was still buzzing about Mitt Romney’s overwhelming Florida primary win, as Ashley Walker rose from her seat one morning last week to address a room full of Barack Obama campaign Florida field directors gathered at the University of Tampa.

    “We need to strive for excellence every day. Each day when we get up we need to think about what we can do to earn Florida’s 29 electoral votes for President Obama,’’ Walker, the Organizing for America Florida director, told the assembled operatives.

    For Romney allies, who boasted of five full-time staffers — a fraction of what Obama already has in Florida — and a Florida ground organization that mainly consisted of mailing fliers to absentee votes, the scene in Tampa should be intimidating. Four years ago, Obama won Florida with the largest voter mobilization effort ever seen in Florida. This year’s effort could dwarf that.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/04/2624679/obama-campaign-army-ready-to-take.html

  14. February 4, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Road block cable coverage for Ron Paul.
    Msnbc has mostly a conservative panel.

  15. February 4, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    I don’t watch football but DUH! – The New York Giants. Hey, I like it when my fellow New Yorkers are happy.

    • 100 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      Gobrooklyn; look up…….look down……look left…………look right. Yup. That’s the sound of the Patriots whooping the crap out of the Giants. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PATRIOTS. ;)

  16. February 4, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Is Ron Paul ever going to Shut the Fuck Up?

    Annoying mo fo!

    • 102 jacquelineoboomer
      February 4, 2012 at 7:35 pm

      It’s just that MSNBC is so bored covering other aspects of Nevada, including the other R candidates, they just kept running his remarks forevah. Hopefully, he’s done for the night.

  17. February 4, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Speaking of Pres.Obama’s “neatness” . I remember watching an interview of the whole family and one of the daughters got hushed by then
    Sen. Obama when she mentioned that he just tends to leave his luggage wherever and they end up tripping over it. It was funny.

    • 105 JoJothecat
      February 5, 2012 at 12:02 am

      I remember that, it was little Sasha….after that no more interviews with the kids. I thought it was very funny, they started piling on ol’ dad.

  18. February 4, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    An hour speech by Ron Paul who is 4th in the Republican primary. All cable stations have stayed with him, even though he will Lose Nevada by 40 points.

    LOL!

  19. February 4, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Will David Gerrgen drop out of his position (at CNN) tonite as rumored, for shitty punditry?

  20. February 4, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Dinner time- Carrabas Italian food- want some?

  21. February 4, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    If the Latino vote is up for grabs like msnbc is positing, we will get killed!
    I doubt that is the case. Shoddy reporting!

  22. 120 defytheodds
    February 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    RIP Don Cornelius 1936-2012

    • 121 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      February 4, 2012 at 7:34 pm

      MAY HE REST IN PEACE INDEED…IT IS SO SAD WHEN SOMEONE IS SO MISERABLE THAT THEY TAKE THEIR OWN LIFE!..:(

      • 122 defytheodds
        February 4, 2012 at 7:46 pm

        So True!

        • 123 defytheodds
          February 4, 2012 at 8:09 pm

          Sue, F/U to your comment: The way they say his life ended is definitely sad, but I chose to focus on the joy that Don Cornelius living brought to so many people. Many talented African American musicians who music we now enjoy got their start because of him. They had no way of getting on TV in order to get regular exposure until DC started Soul Train from scratch…So may he RIP, and I’m more empowered b/c of his living. Hopefully I can do the same for one other person, no matter how I might leave this life…

          This is the way he use to enjoy the show:

          “… and you can bet your last money, it’s all gonna be a stone gas, honey! I’m Don Cornelius, and as always in parting, we wish you love, peace and soul!”
          – Don Cornelius, Host & Creator of Soul Train (RIP)

          • 124 defytheodds
            February 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm

            Meant to say “end” the show

          • 125 SUE DUVALL SMITH
            February 4, 2012 at 8:15 pm

            MY COMMENT WAS MEANT IN A PRAYERFUL WAY…NOT A BAD WAY…I HAD FAMILY THAT COMMITTED SUICIDE..SO I IDENTIFY WITH IT WITH LOTS OF HEARTACHE.

            • 126 SUE DUVALL SMITH
              February 4, 2012 at 8:16 pm

              I LOST MY AUNT AND UNCLE THAT WAY AND THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING I WISH I COULD HAVE DONE TO HELP THEM.

              • 127 SUE DUVALL SMITH
                February 4, 2012 at 8:18 pm

                AS IT TURNED OUT..THEY DID NOT WANT TO BURDEN THEIR CHILDREN W/ THEIR HEALTHCARE…THEY WERE BOTH UP IN YEARS WITH HEALTH ISSUES!

              • 128 defytheodds
                February 4, 2012 at 8:25 pm

                Sue, so sorry for your lost. I’m sure you did all you could do. And just pray that their journey back ‘Home’ is a peacful one.

            • 129 defytheodds
              February 4, 2012 at 8:20 pm

              Sue, I hear you and feel you. And, I feel for DC family, your family, and any family that have had to deal with a love ending their own life.
              We are ONE!

  23. 130 jacquelineoboomer
    February 4, 2012 at 7:39 pm

  24. 132 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    thinkprogress National Journal hinting that Gingrich might drop out tonight. thkpr.gs/wmzaKa #rumormill
    about 1 hour ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    Bummer if it’s true. It was just getting really ridiculous

  25. 135 LunarSea
    February 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Just logged in an was greeted with the Pres’s statement on Syria. Can anyone confirm if he went golfing or did stand up comedy today?

    All joking aside, there’s some serious shit going down in Syria and not sure where Russia & China stand after US statement at the UN today. My shoulders are not big enough to carry the burdens this president bears daily. Keep the people of Syria, our armed forces and the President and his advisers in your thoughts and prayers.

  26. 137 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    thinkprogress Turnout down across Nevada for today’s GOP caucus (via @RalstonFlash)
    about 1 hour ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  27. 138 cookemom
    February 4, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Watching MSNBC and I can’t help but think what a snore….It seems like they’re just killing time trying to make this interesting. I’m pulling for Noot and the Pats.

  28. 139 halo
    February 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    PBO and his team REALLY needs to get out in front of this Catholic Church issue or else it’s going to become “death panels” meaning no matter how many times they say it’s not true, nobody will believe them.

    • 140 halo
      February 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      If it gets out of hand it could actually sway the Supreme Court decision as well about “mandates.”

    • February 4, 2012 at 8:28 pm

      The administration has already responded by sending this days ago to any and every news outlet that will take it. http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/02/01/health-reform-preventive-services-and-religious-institutions

      And they will keep repeating the items in that post any time they are asked about their decision.

      • 144 halo
        February 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm

        I posted that same link this morning and sent it to as many people as I can. I’m just telling you waht I’m hearing on the ground. Message isn’t breaking trhough. You have to remember that Catholics are already suspicious of PBO. A blog post isn’t going to do it for them. They had the same thing for “death panels” but they let it linger and ultimately got destroyed for it and had to take it out of the bill. I’m just telling you that it’s a problem on the ground.

        • 145 hopefruit2
          February 4, 2012 at 8:58 pm

          Halo, two weeks ago you were upset about some CNN poll and were accusing the administration of bad messaging. At this point whatever you are hearing “from the ground” has nothing to do with what the administration is/isn’t doing, but a product of some people’s willful ignorance. And I don’t buy that “Catholics are suspicious of PBO.” Some racist folk in the backwoods of America who call themselves “Catholic” refuse to accept that a Black man is in the WH – and there’s nothing you, PBO or I can do about that. It has nothing to do with messaging, but everything to do with these people’s twisted, ignorant bigoted minds!!

          Ask the arch Catholic in the Vatican, Pope Benedict how he feels about PBO.

    • February 4, 2012 at 8:53 pm

      Halo, it’s hardly true that “nobody will believe them” – the people largely doing the screaming about this issue are the very idiots who chose to believe the ‘death panel’ crap, ie the kind of people who never supported PBO any way, and never will, regardless. So, no loss there.

      And I do laugh at the notion – which I’m reading everywhere these days – that all Catholics are outraged by the current issue, as if every Catholic holds identical views. They don’t – just as in most religious groups, Catholics range from very liberal to very conservative. And most Catholics I know aren’t overly keen on their church’s leaders these days, after all the ugliness in recent years, so the gap between them and their supposed ‘leaders’ widens all the time. The notion that they will all be ‘led’ in to opposition to the admin over this is ridiculous.

      PBO won the Catholic vote 54-45 in 2008 (http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted.aspx), compared to Kerry’s 47% in 2004 – every one of the Catholics who voted for him knew he was pro-choice, for example, but it didn’t stop them supporting him.

      Yep, I think the admin needs to work harder on getting the truth out on this issue, but I wouldn’t panic about it. I think of an old family friend who lives in Florida (Irish by birth, now an American citizen) – she’s 84, a practising Catholic, but long, long ago stopped listening to what her church preached ‘at’ her. Her relationship, she says, is with God, not with the Catholic men who so poorly represent him on earth. She voted for PBO last time, and she’s voting – with joy – for him again in 2012.

      • February 4, 2012 at 9:06 pm

        Halo, I only just saw your “you have to remember that Catholics are already suspicious of PBO” comment.

        Seriously, where do you get this stuff? Politico? Vatican.com?

        The only Catholics “suspicious” of PBO are the hardcore conservative ones who wouldn’t vote for him even if Satan was his opponent.

        See my reply above – 54% of Catholics voted FOR Barack Obama in 2008 (higher than his overall vote of 52.92%), despite him holding positions on issues like abortion that are opposed to Vatican preaching.

        Come on Halo, enough of this crap, please, you’re seriously making me wonder what you’re up to here by spreading dishonest bull like this.

        • 150 africa
          February 4, 2012 at 9:16 pm

          Not a big fan of Joan Walsh, but she does some truth telling here.

          http://www.salon.com/2012/02/02/catholics_need_to_preach_what_we_practice/

        • 151 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
          February 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm

          Roger.

          #LandslideOBAMA2012 #YesWeMust

        • 152 anniebella
          February 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm

          Right On Chipsticks

        • 153 hopefruit2
          February 4, 2012 at 9:27 pm

          Exactly, and thank you Chips for setting the record straight about PBO’s support!

        • 154 Cathy from MN
          February 4, 2012 at 9:28 pm

          As a Catholic in a family of Catholics, I can tell you that none of my family has an issue with birth control and we are all pro-choice. Sorry to ruin the stereotype, but Catholic women use birth control regardless of what the leaders in the church say (note, none of them can bear children). That does not mean pro-abortion, it means respecting a woman’s right to choose and to maintain control of her own reproductive choices.

          We also believe in the moral imperative to aid those less fortunate, so we would never support a philosophy that hides behind ‘pro-life’ for only as long as that life has not yet taken a breath. I cannot ever respect any organization that pretends to be ‘pro-life’ yet does nothing to aide unwed mothers, assist with their medical care, or care for the children they bear if they decide to continue with a pregnancy.

          • February 4, 2012 at 9:33 pm

            “We also believe in the moral imperative to aid those less fortunate, so we would never support a philosophy that hides behind ‘pro-life’ for only as long as that life has not yet taken a breath.”

            And that’s why I love ‘liberal’ Catholics, they actually take the time to read their bible, rather than Sarah Palin’s tweets.

            Thanks Cathy.

        • 157 yardarm756
          February 4, 2012 at 9:37 pm

          Thanks Chips.

        • February 4, 2012 at 9:40 pm

          I am what’s commonly referred to as a “lapsed” Catholic. I refer to myself as agnostic. My new sister-in-law is a religion teacher at a Catholic high school. She’s saving up to get her tubes tied, as obviously she can’t get it covered through her insurance. Most Catholics are like her, I would wager.

          • February 4, 2012 at 10:17 pm

            I’m a very lapsed Catholic too, LL. But sometimes I wish I wasn’t because I can see the amazing good the genuine people in the church do – but, of course, they’re the very people who are ostracized by the church because they have the cheek to actually believe in the teachings of their bible.

            It’s just incredibly sad that so many so-called ‘believers’ choose an opposite route, promoting nothing but hate and contempt – against Jews, Muslims, Mormons, etc, etc.

            Hey, I have issues with all faiths, especially the one I left – Catholicism – but twisting your Gods’ teachings to promote ugly political agendas and prejudices? Spare me.

            • 160 nathkatun7
              February 5, 2012 at 1:56 am

              Thank you so much, Chipstick for this beautiful statement. I am a lapsed Anglican who was married to a Catholic, and I totally share everything you said.

            • 161 nospin
              February 5, 2012 at 7:27 pm

              “It’s just incredibly sad that so many so-called ‘believers’ choose an opposite route, promoting nothing but hate and contempt – against Jews, Muslims, Mormons, etc, etc.

              Hey, I have issues with all faiths, especially the one I left – Catholicism – but twisting your Gods’ teachings to promote ugly political agendas and prejudices? Spare me.”

              worth repeating

        • 162 halo
          February 4, 2012 at 9:50 pm

          @hopefruit Do you honeslty believe that the President and his team did a good job with messaging regarding “death panels?” Do you honestly believe that the President and his team did a good job messaging the ACA or pushed back on the LIE that he “cut $500 billion from Medicare benefits?” We lost 2010 because we got killed on this issue. It doesn’t matter how many times you try to correct it once it gets cemented in the consciousness of Americans. The fact that people like the component parts but not the acutal bill tells you the whole story. More than a majority are still against the bill, even with a bunch of stuff coming online helping ALOT of ppl. That’s a fact. You can bury your head in the sand about ACA messaging, but I call it straight without sugarcoating.

          @Chipsticks Catholics, who are SWING VOTERS, supported PBO in spite of him being pro-choice because he had strong leaders high up in the Church advocate strongly for him. Teddy Kennedy and Bob Casey also helped boost his appeal up to 54% because they served as a great surrogates. Without them he would have gotten equal to or even less support than Kerry, just like Dems usually do. The leaders in the Chruch knew PBO was a good man who would take their beliefs seriously whlie also blaancing governing. They also voted for him because they were scared to death of Palin. Those SAME leaders who went out on a limb against the Catholic establishment to support PBO in 08, strongly advcoated in the Church for the ACA, and met with PBO regarding this issue. Now, fairly or unfairly, they feel like they have been blindsided. I for one think it’s ridiculous, but it’s a FACT that the leaders who supported him feel like he left them hanging out in the cold.

          This isn’t some crazy idea. I am Catholic. I hear it in my Church. I hear it in my community. It’s a bubbling issue that has made many Catholics uncomfortable. The fact that Hopefruit just says it’s because they’r “racist”…I don’t even know what to say to that. Not EVERYTHING against PBO is “racist.” That just does a disservice to the people who are actually racist like the Teabaggers and just makes people laugh at you bc you call everything racist. Catholics obviously aren’t monolithic and dictated by the Chruch, BUT Catholics take religious service and teachings very seriously, and you have to be sensitive to an issue like contraception.

          Look, the fact of the matter is this election is going to be CLOSE. like 51-49 close unless there’s an economic miracle of 300k+ jobs/month. Catholics make up a large part of the Rust Belt and PBO NEEDS them. They are susceptible to GOP lies. PBO has alot going for him with the Auto Industry and Manufacturing, but it’s doubtful he can win 54% again. He needs every vote and going back to Kerry with 47% is not going to cut it.

          I’m just telling you that Liberals ignore and dismiss sensitive religious issues too quickly and at their peril. Simply telling people to read a BLOG POST on whitehouse.gov or blaming the media for not reporting the facts is not going to do it. And I would appreciate it if people stop reflexively ATTACK me for reporting relevant facts about what I am hearing. Alright, I’m done.

          • 163 halo
            February 4, 2012 at 9:56 pm

            Again, I am not saying the admin is wrong. I am saying their MESSAGE and REASON is not cutting through the emotion surrounding this issue in a culturally conservative demographic.

          • 164 hopefruit2
            February 4, 2012 at 10:20 pm

            Halo, I am also a Catholic, and I have MANY close friends and family who are Catholic and they don’t endorse any of the GOP’s lies, so I can just as well make the claim that I am right based on “what I’m hearing on the ground.” However, I would rather go with what the national data shows, rather than anecdotes.

            1. First of all, PBO was NOT on the ballot in 2010, so your bringing up 2010 makes absolutely no sense in this discussion of President Obama’s prospects for 2012. You bring up 2010 (a midterm election) when PBO wasn’t even on the ballot, yet you conveniently dismiss Chips’ actual data showing that PBO won 54% of the Catholic vote in 2008 (more than John Kerry’s 47% in 2004!) And it wasn’t the ACA that caused the GOP to win in 2010. It was high GOP enthusiasm from the Tea Party phenomenon (which has since fizzled out), the high unemployment rate, and the normally low turnout for minority and youth voters who tend to be majorly Democratic voters and who made up a sizeable chunk of PBO’s base in 2008.

            2. There were all kinds of rumors about PBO in 2008 that he was a Muslim, socialist, pro-abortion, pro-gay, etc..yet Catholics voted for him by a significant majority. Why would they vote for Mitt Romney in 2012 simply because of the latest silly rumor? And no, I don’t see everyone who disagrees with PBO as racist, which is why I don’t believe that Catholics as a group “are suspicious of PBO” It was you who made that blanket statement, not me. Carolyn Kennedy just endorsed PBO…and she’s Catholic isn’t she? So is EVA Longoria who has always been a staunch PBO supporter.

            3. The Affordable Care Act represented a huge change from the status quo. That in itself is a scary thing to many people who are suspicious of change even if it’s change for the better. The ACA will become more popular as time goes on simply because more folks will have experienced the benefits with none of the frightening elements they were told about by the Republicans and the GOPMEDIA.

          • February 4, 2012 at 11:18 pm

            Halo,

            “Do you honestly believe that the President and his team did a good job with messaging regarding ‘death panels’?

            The point you won’t acknowledge here, Halo, is that the ‘death panels’ bullshit was generated by the likes of Palin and her brain-dead, bigoted supporters. Do you seriously believe there is ANYTHING the admin could have done to dissuade THOSE creatures – and their cheerleaders at Fox, etc – of their ‘PBO wants to kill Grannies’ theory?!?!

            Come on! Frankly, f**k them, the best messaging on earth wouldn’t sway THAT constituency, so why are you concerned about them?? They wouldn’t support PBO even if you paid them a billion dollars each.

            Did PBO’s team do a good messaging job on the ACA?

            No, absolutely not – there’s a great story to be told here about the impact of ACA, and the admin has to do WAY better telling it, but I think you’re being hugely naive about the opposition they face in spreading that story. There are SO many vested interests here, it’s a miracle that we see a single positive ACA story. And you KNOW that.

            “You can bury your head in the sand about ACA messaging, but I call it straight without sugarcoating.”

            Calling it straight is perfectly fine, repeating RW talking points that have absolutely no basis in truth (eg “you have to remember that Catholics are already suspicious of PBO”) is just troll shit. I’m not the brightest, but I’m not THAT stupid.

            “Catholics, who are SWING VOTERS, supported PBO in spite of him being pro-choice because he had strong leaders high up in the Church advocate strongly for him. Teddy Kennedy and Bob Casey also helped boost his appeal up to 54% because they served as a great surrogates. Without them he would have gotten equal to or even less support than Kerry, just like Dems usually do.”

            I’m not sure where to start with this. I loved Ted Kennedy …. but are you honestly telling me ‘fervent’ Catholics were swayed by his endorsement?

            Seriously?? That’s just comical!

            “The leaders in the Church …. feel like they have been blindsided (on ACA) … it’s a FACT that the leaders who supported him feel like he left them hanging out in the cold.”

            Really? I’d love to know – what are your sources telling you, what is it exactly about the ACA that so offends Catholic ‘leaders’??

            “It’s a bubbling issue that has made many Catholics uncomfortable …. Catholics take religious service and teachings very seriously, and you have to be sensitive to an issue like contraception.”

            You’re being funny now, right? You DO know 98% of Catholics ignore their church’s teaching on contraception?? You clearly have NO clue about Catholic views, AT ALL!

            The religious world I live in, even though I’m chronically lapsed, is Catholic … your account of that world bears NO comparison to the reality. So, I think you’ve made it up, in a comically crap kind of way.

            Halo? We’re done. You were evidently distraught about the encouraging job news (“but, but, but…..”), and this latest avalanche of ‘Catholics hate PBO’ Fox crap is just embarrassing.

            You’re a troll, as I’ve suspected for months. You were covering it well for a while, but that excitable ALL-CAPS tribute to the serpent that is Jeb Bush the other night – “a great public servant” – (was drink taken??), kind of blew your cover.

            I wish you well, bye.

        • February 5, 2012 at 12:04 am

          TOD. I’m Catholic. Think PBO rocks. Votin fer him.

      • February 4, 2012 at 9:30 pm

        Thanks africa, I seriously loathe Joan Walsh, but that article was more than worth linking – the best bit was the stat that 98% of Catholics use birth control.

        So, 98% of Catholics go against Vatican preaching.

        Say no more!

        • February 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm

          I’m one of those people who is glad that my mother didn’t get the hang of the rhythm method…else no Tien Le. My 87 year-old Catholic Priest uncle is all about me volunteering to help re-elect the President.

          • 179 nathkatun7
            February 5, 2012 at 2:26 am

            Well Tien, My 31 year old daughter who is Catholic is one of the strongest supporters of the President. Although I am not Catholic (I married a Catholic) I know many Catholics who enthusiastically support President Obama. I am glad that your “87 year-old Catholic Priest Uncle” supports your work in helping to “re-elect the President.”

  29. February 4, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    WASHINGTON — The United States’ plan to wind down its combat role in Afghanistan a year earlier than expected relies on shifting responsibility to Special Operations forces that hunt insurgent leaders and train local troops, according to senior Pentagon officials and military officers. These forces could remain in the country well after the NATO mission ends in late 2014.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/world/asia/us-plans-a-shift-to-elite-forces-in-afghanistan.html?ref=global-home

  30. 181 cookemom
    February 4, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Mitt Momoney is endorsed by the Chump, Rick Santorum endorsed by Sharon (crazy lady) Angle, so that leaves Noot getting the endorsement from the Bunny Ranch girls (it’s legal in Nevada you know).

    • 182 jacquelineoboomer
      February 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      I could see Noot showing up with the girls from the Bunny Ranch, one on either side, and Callista in costume right along with them.

      Ewww – what a sight to imagine!

    • 184 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      February 4, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      HAVEN’T YOU HEARD? FOR REAL…2 WEEKS AGO THE BUNNY RANCH IN NEVADA ENDORSED RON PAUL..THERE WAS A PICK OF THEM ON CNN…’PIMPING FOR PAUL!’…FOR REAL!

      • 185 jacquelineoboomer
        February 4, 2012 at 8:42 pm

        Forgot about that. Oh, well, these R candidates are all interchangeable, anyway. I’m sure the bunny ranch girls won’t care. Nor do I.

  31. 187 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    February 4, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    BBL…I HAVE TO GO AND ABUSE MY FLATSCREEN…BLESSINGS ALL!

  32. 188 Ladyhawke
    February 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    VIDEO: Ambassador Susan Rice calls out China and Russia

    U.N. Security Council fails to pass resolution on Syria

    =================

    United Nations (CNN) — As international anger grows over reports of mass carnage at the hands of the Syrian regime, a U.N. Security Council draft resolution condemning Syria failed to be adopted Saturday after veto-wielding members Russia and China voted against it.

    Ambassadors from the other permanent members of the council — the United States, France, and the United Kingdom — said they were furious at Russia and China for failing to halt the worsening, bloody violence that has consumed the Middle Eastern nation.

    =================

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/04/world/meast/syria-unrest/

  33. February 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    INDIANAPOLIS — While Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels held off Saturday on appointing a permanent replacement for the state elections chief convicted early that morning of voter fraud, Democrats said they planned to move quickly to wrest control of the politically powerful office from the GOP.

    A jury from Hamilton County, just north of Indianapolis, deliberated for 13 hours before convicting Republican Secretary of State Charlie White on six felony charges. Among other things, White was accused of lying about his address on voter registration forms.

    Indiana law does not allow felons to hold statewide office, and Daniels quickly appointed White’s chief deputy, Jerry Bonnet, as interim secretary of state. But the governor said he was holding off on naming a permanent replacement because a judge could reduce the charge to a misdemeanor, allowing White to regain the office.

    http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/rss.jsp?rssid=615&item=http%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fnational%2fap-newsbreak-indiana-democrats-hope-to-have-their-candidate-in-elections-office-next-week%2f2012%2f02%2f04%2fgIQAdJlopQ_mobile.mobile&cid=961405

    LOL!

  34. 192 cookemom
    February 4, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Watching Al Green sing ‘Let’s Stay Togehter’ on Soul Train marathon. PBO sounded like the very young Al Green, unbelievable

  35. 194 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/nyt-associates-say-adelson-open-to-aiding-romney?ref=fpa

    TPMLivewire
    04-02-2012 07:49 PM
    NYT: Associates Say Adelson Open To Aiding Romney

    A report from the New York Times says that billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, a major benefactor for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the Republican race for President, is very much open to supporting former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the general election, and is willing to donate much more for the Republican nominee when they are chosen. Adelson has already given five million to Winning Our Future, a super PAC supporting Gingrich’s candidacy, as has Adelson’s wife, Miriam Ochsorn.

  36. February 4, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    rupaul is 2nd place in NV with 4% in ? Will he upset the applecart today ? Will noot boot himself out tonight ?

  37. 196 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    This is why we fight on http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/02/04/oh-and-by-the-way/

    Medicare and scientific research, two things Republicans want to cut to give Donald Trump another tax break or corporations another handout, are right this very moment saving my father’s life. There is a reason we fund these things. Anyone who wants to argue with me about the validity and necessity of funding both of these endeavors can quite simply go fuck themselves. Hard.

    Real people. Real issues. Real important.

  38. 197 jacquelineoboomer
    February 4, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Saw Josh Romney, the third oldest, interviewed on CNN. He did use “President” Obama when he talked about him, which I appreciated. Cute-looking guy with good manners.

    That said, he looks like another Romney animatron. Barely blinks. Keeps the old dead smile on his face; only the lips move. Eyes have a dull stare. (I’m NOT just being mean here – it was scary, but not quite as bad as Mitt scares me.)

    When asked if he were going to go into politics some day, he said “No, I’m raising five kids and having a lot of fun doing that.” His bio says he’s got an MBA and is a “real estate developer,” so I found his answer just a little bit lacking. Shouldn’t he have said, “I’m in real estate, taking some time out to get my dad elected,” as a grown man of about 37 years old would say? Or, when not campaigning, does he just have his wife peel him a grape, while the five kids run around his lounge chair by the pool? Are any of these people contributing to society?

  39. 201 jacquelineoboomer
    February 4, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Breaking news: Rick Santorum changed from his bolo tie to his RED regular-guy tie, and he’s still in Colorado. Claims his campaign is going to auction off the RED tie. He’s desperate.

  40. February 4, 2012 at 9:41 pm

  41. 203 vero804
    February 4, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    I love how concerned the GOP is about “uncertainty” in the economy due to the president’s health care reform or due to Dodd-Frank, however when it comes to bombing Iran or staying in Afganistan, there’s no concern for how uncertain those little adventures would be…

    just a thought…

  42. 206 jacquelineoboomer
    February 4, 2012 at 9:47 pm

  43. February 4, 2012 at 9:47 pm

  44. February 4, 2012 at 9:49 pm

  45. 211 jacquelineoboomer
    February 4, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Media hardly ever run an entire speech by President Obama, live, but tonight I’ve had to mute a full Ron Paul speech and a full Rick Santorum speech – neither of which anybody wants to hear.

    Let’s all work hard, get President Obama re-elected, and on election night, we’ll know THIS LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE is over.

  46. February 4, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    US Park Police says an officer was struck by a Brick when they cleared out Occupy DC.

    These are Militia Pattiots, not occupy dc anymore!

  47. 219 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @rolandsmartin
    rolandsmartin
    I DON’T like when anyone, media included, says Barack Obama. Same w/George W. Bush. It’s PRESIDENT OBAMA. Respect the office. #cnnelections

  48. February 4, 2012 at 10:05 pm

  49. 221 halo
    February 4, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    GOP doesn’t care about policy or Robney. They only care about defeating Obama.

  50. 222 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @JoeMyGod
    JoeMyGod
    The Romney sons are so happy tonight, they’re each taking an extra sister-wife! #NVcaucuses
    3 minutes ago via TweetDeck

  51. 223 Dakota
    February 4, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    May I respectfully repeat:

    Thank you Sista Rosa
    You were the spark,
    Started our Freedom Movement
    Thank you Sista Rosa Parks.

    Happy Birthday Sista Rosa Parks!

    Also I have bee spending the weekend checking out the Soul Train Marathon and it’s been joy. Don Cornelius was a true pioneer, may he Rest in Blessed Peace.

    Hey YardArm….can you show us how to do Funky Penqiun? LOL!

  52. 225 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    February 4, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    #PRESSON

  53. 226 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    I know how we all look forward to the Super Bowl commercials…but be warned. They have no shame.

    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/aborted-fetuses-randall-terry-super-bowl

    Update: A Chicago NBC station has balked at running Terry’s ad. Meanwhile, here are some of the cities where viewers can still expect to see one of the ads during the Super Bowl festivities, according to Terry:

    During the pre-game show: Eau Claire, Wisconsin; Kansas City, Kansas/Missouri; Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma; St. Louis, Missouri; Tulsa, Oklahoma

    During the game: Ada, Oklahoma; Grand Junction, Colorado; Joplin, Missouri; Paducah, Kentucky; Springfield, Missouri

    • February 4, 2012 at 10:33 pm

      These people cry about liberty and freedom, but only as long as it’s their brand. They don’t care that some kids innocently watching the game will be traumatized by those ads. I wonder how many people will be convinced by those ads.

      I have no patience for these extremists tonight.

  54. 230 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/romney-beautifully-rich-people-staton Quote from a supporter:

    It’s kind of hard for Romney to come across being a regular Joe. But put him in a room full of 400 business guys that are all successful, that relate to him, he comes off beautifully.

  55. 231 hopefruit2
    February 4, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    The NEVADA GOP turnout is much lower this year compared to 2008. The media is not really talking about that. They are so desperate to prop up Romney.

    • 232 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm

      And they say we have an enthusiasm gap. While they’ve been conducting their caucuses and primaries aka clown shows, the volunteers, caucus, and primary voters (not voting now of course) on our side have been turning up in huge numbers, beating expectations and beating the turn out in the GOP crowd for 08 and ’12 and with an overwhelming deluge of enthusiasm.

      Sucks to be the GOP.

  56. February 4, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  57. February 4, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    LOL @amk..good one:-)

  58. February 4, 2012 at 10:39 pm

  59. 244 hopefruit2
    February 4, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Things that the media knows about the GOP NEVADA Primary but won’t tell you tonight.

    1. 84% of voters were OVER age 40
    2. 69% OVER age 50
    3. 90% White (88% in 2008)
    4. Youth vote 3% LOWER than in 2008
    5. Latino vote 3% LOWER than in 2008 (although the number of Hispanics have INCREASED since 2008)
    6. Jewish support shows no increase from 2% in 2008 to 2% in 2012

    • 245 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      Thanks for this truth buster hopefruit. The GOP have problems in their camp. All the hate that they preach is manifested in the exit polls. They had no diversity, the electorate was almost 100% white and older and a majority of them were rabid teabaggers. Great going GOP. Way to appeal to America.

  60. 246 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    February 4, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    #PRESSON

  61. 248 hopefruit2
    February 4, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    I can’t stand Mitt Romney. He’s even worse than McCain.

  62. February 4, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    per teh google

    At the end of December, 395,845 active Republicans and 446,679 active Democrats are registered in Nevada.

    If just 50% of dems turn out, PBO sweeps NV.

  63. 252 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    February 4, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Without a doubt, one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever heard anyone say, let alone a Member of the House of Representatives of the United States of America – ‘honest rape’ – foul, totally evil.

    #PRESSON

  64. 259 Britt
    February 4, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Chuck Todd and Repugs are not being honest with Mitt’s whole “I am more American than you” lines in his stump speeches. The GOP’s whole line of attacks on POTUS is he is not one of us, which has nothing to do with being born in Hawaii, it has more to do with five black people living in the White House, and everyone should be afraid. This is not a post-racial, color blind country despite what many say. The GOP is going to race bait come the general election like we have never seen before. They are going to use code languages regarding the Obamas’ ethnicity.

  65. February 4, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    willard still can’t break the 50% mark even in his own party.

    • 261 desertflower
      February 4, 2012 at 11:07 pm

      anything less than 50 percent, even with this anemic, low-turnout affair, would show that Mitt can’t motivate half of Republicans to support him.

      from the orange place

    • 262 hopefruit2
      February 4, 2012 at 11:20 pm

      Apparently they’re still waiting for Clark county which is projected to put Mitt over the 50% mark….that’s what I’m reading, but I will wait and see.

      • February 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm

        Doing some math based politico’s result site – some 33 K votes are to be counted. Of which, 22 K are needed to put him over the 50% mark. That’s 2 out of every 3 votes. Think he can do that ?

  66. 264 desertflower
    February 4, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    thinkprogress Romney says Obama should apologize to America for his job performance. Did Romney apologize to Mass for being 47th in job creation?
    16 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite
    thinkprogress Romney wins Nevada. Paul and Gingrich neck-and-neck for 2nd place. Turnout very low.
    54 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  67. February 4, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    It’s President Obamas fault blah blah the Ice Age was obamas fault blah blah the Dinosaur extinction was obamas fault blah blah!

    Meh!

  68. 266 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    February 4, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    #PRESSON

    • February 4, 2012 at 11:16 pm

      Unless the repugs increase diversity in their party, the only way they can win the election is steal it.

    • 270 nathkatun7
      February 5, 2012 at 3:15 am

      Bobfr, you are a genius! Your tweets go to the heart of the matter. I know of no one else who can say so well everything I feel and believe, in just such a few words, as you do! Every day, I pray and hope that President Obama’s team will discover you and convince you to work for his campaign to help in spreading the President’s message. It’s so refreshing to know a person who combines personal integrity and the ability to effectively communicate ethical positions about public policy.

  69. February 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Why are Ron Paul and his supporters getting so much Media tonite?
    That much media, is not come Johnny come Lately! This was planned!

  70. 273 vero804
    February 4, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Newt is really desperate sounding. This was a dumb idea. There is no point to this press conference apart from letting Newt bitch and moan.

  71. February 4, 2012 at 11:40 pm

  72. 275 Asher in Boston
    February 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Oh, God, What is newt now bitching about? Anyway I muted both him ans flip floper liar willard and watched African music on youtube. Cant stand these bastards lying on our President.

    • 276 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2012 at 11:50 pm

      When he began bitching about crap, same as Romney and Santorum, I picked up my remote and clicked away. I just couldn’t stand their venom and bile tonight. Doused myself in the joy of Everybody Loves Raymond and the brilliant 30 Rock.

  73. 278 Pamela
    February 4, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Have missed a lot today, very busy around here, but boy, did we see the SUNSHINE! Temps made it to 55F in the shade. Dreadful empty hole where the plum tree lived for 60+ years, but things must change. So, let’s have more of that Change We Can Believe In, and thank you to everyone, and especially to you, Chipsticks, for your high standards and consistent effort to support PBO all the way to 2017! Bless you! Sweet dreams!


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