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the payroll tax cut

President Barack Obama gets a hug from Tracy Cacho of Washington, after he spoke about the importance of the payroll-tax cut extension, Feb. 21, in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building


201 Responses to “the payroll tax cut”


  1. 1 isonprize
    February 21, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Yeah baby!!

  2. 7 isonprize
    February 21, 2012 at 11:11 am

    La da dee, la di dah… Just waiting for someone to chat with… :lol: :lol:

    • 8 Pamela
      February 21, 2012 at 11:27 am

      Congrats on first, we’re trickling over… Had ti read japa’s post first, thank you japa. Congrats on first, I really like your award! Mmm,hmm, I really do! ;)

  3. February 21, 2012 at 11:14 am

    This is The Awesome:

  4. 11 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 11:16 am

    The GOP savior that will never come

    By Steve Kornacki

    =============================

    This is why there’s suddenly loud talk about a new candidate jumping in the GOP race. If Romney melts down, Santorum looms as the next most likely victor — and his white hot culture war rhetoric these past few days is a perfect demonstration of why most November-minded Republicans believe his nomination would be a disaster. And after Santorum comes Newt Gingrich, whom those same Republicans tend to regard as poison, and then Ron Paul, who’s a nonstarter. As an unnamed Republican senator told ABC News late last week, “If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate.”

    But while the GOP’s need for a savior would be obvious, don’t count on one emerging in the event of a Romney meltdown next Tuesday. There are four major reasons why:

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    http://www.salon.com/2012/02/21/the_gop_savior_that_will_never_come/singleton/

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:31 pm

      I hate to say it, but after hearing soundbite of Santorum this weekend, I almost say “Phew” when they cut to Romney and say he is picking up in the polls again. Of cours I can’t stand either of them, but Santorum is so awful he makes Romney look almost reasonable. We can’t let either of these bufoons anywhere near the White House.

    • 14 susanne
      February 21, 2012 at 5:52 pm

      thanks for this link. i think there are a lot of us who harbor a little worry that the rethugs have some secret weapon candidate to be revealed at their convention. the best argument against that, i think, is that they’re saving their darlings for 2016, to run against hillary or whichever dem steps up.

  5. February 21, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I normally don’t repost comments I made in an earlier thread. This one is at the bottom of the last thread and I am reposting it ncause I think is some enormous insight, which it probably isn’t, but more to get some reactions to it. Am I way off abse? If you think it may be somewhat accurate, what do we do to counter it, etc.

    I didn’t get a chance to read last night’s threads until this morning and something struck me as I was going through them.

    The first thing was Smartypants comment that Chips posted about the RW trying to drive wedges between us. And then the history behind J O’B’s departure from this site. Chips explained that she left after reading Chips’ rant about the Catholic Church.

    Tieing the two together, I realized that we may be missing a major part of the recent blow-up on the whole BC controversy. The general assumption has been that it is all about BC, men controlling women’s bodies, etc. and that it was an attempt to get the Catholic vote by making it seem PBO was waging a war on religion and specifically the Catholic Church. Although it may be true that there is an element of male power dominance here, if we stop there we are making a major mistake.

    The first mistake is by our underestimating the intelligence of the drivers of the RW. I am not talking about Romney or Santorum here. I am talking about those people who decide what issues are to be discussed, how they are to be discussed and what the goals are in bringing those issues up.

    I think we can all agree that the RW is focused on two things: giving the base an emotional reason to get out there and vote. The second is suppressing the Dem votes as much as they can. We know they are good at the first. 2004 was a prime example. The same sex amendments did the job, specially in places like Ohio.Granted, they still probably needed to engage in shenanigans to pull out victory, but without that drive to bring out the base, the shenanigans may not have been enough.

    We also know that they are trying several things to suppress the Dem vote, specially minority votes through things such as voter ID laws. But one thing they are good at, as Smartypants pointed out is creating division in the Dem ranks. And one thing that is sure to do that is any discussion of religion.This site does not get into this as much as others, but go to any LW oriented blog and when religion comes up you are bound to see a lot of derisive comments directed toward people who have a religious faith (note, Chips rant did not fall into that category). You will see comments about the stupidity of people who believe, comments about mythology and people who can’t think for themselves and need to have some “phony” religion to fall back on.

    And let’s face it, the Catholic Church is a target for believers and non-believers alike. Yet there are many people who have a great commitment to the Catholic faith (I am one, although I was raised mainstream Protestant). For many (I am not one of these) attacking the Church is the same as attacking the faith. And when one’s faith is attacked, it is felt as an attack on the person. And this creates division and potentially the loss of votes.

    For people who are both religious and politically aware (such as J O’B) it is unlikely that they will suddenly decide not to vote for PBO. But for those who are not as politically aware and in touch with what is happening, feeling that their faith is being attacked may not cause them to vote for the Republicans, but it may give them second thought about voting for PBO, specially if they feel attacked by those who they always felt agreed with them.

    We must vigilant for these tactics from the Right and not dismiss them for being stupid or irrelevant or misguided. Their whole hope this year is to keep Democratic voters at home, and they will use any method they can to do so, including causing doubts and division among the ranks.

    • 16 isonprize
      February 21, 2012 at 11:29 am

      For people who are both religious and politically aware (such as J O’B) it is unlikely that they will suddenly decide not to vote for PBO. But for those who are not as politically aware and in touch with what is happening, feeling that their faith is being attacked may not cause them to vote for the Republicans, but it may give them second thought about voting for PBO, specially if they feel attacked by those who they always felt agreed with them.

      We must vigilant for these tactics from the Right and not dismiss them for being stupid or irrelevant or misguided. Their whole hope this year is to keep Democratic voters at home, and they will use any method they can to do so, including causing doubts and division among the ranks.

      Japa21, you got it exactly right! This is why we all need to join the campaign, help register people to vote (there are still plenty of folks unregistered, plus new voters, people who have moved) keep the base motivated. Do everything in our power to get people paying attention to ‘down ballot’ races.

      We need to get the House of Reps back and keep the Senate.

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:32 am

      I am delighted Japa reposted, this is too important to be left at the end of a thread.

      In fact I am reposting my comments with emphasis on the final 2 lines.

      Excellent post Japa

      I would ask that folks spread this comment to other blogs where it may have also been a problem.

      Regardless of what issues arise and the comments that are made, we need to hang together as a blog, as a party and as a people.

      I hope J O’B returns, but more importantly, I hope each of us realizes that if we leave, become silent and give up, Repubs win……

      I would also suggest that Japa develop this into a blog post that is sent to “The People’s View”.

      This type of thinking needs a broader audience.
      Reply

      • 18 hopefruit2
        February 21, 2012 at 11:36 am

        I concur fully. We need to be hypervigilant and this awareness needs to be spread far and wide.

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:06 pm

        There’s no question at all of J O’B becoming silent or giving up, Linda, she’s simply chosen not to return here because she was offended by my rant – I have no doubt she will battle on as hard as anyone else, just not here.

        • 20 sabreen60
          February 21, 2012 at 3:48 pm

          Chips, I read your “rant” and I never thought that cast dispersion on people of faith, whether Catholic or otherwise. My take away was that you were quite upset with the hierarchy in the Catholic Church – as was I. Now, there are firebagger sites that denigrate people of faith all the time. But these firebaggers are not the majority in their opinion just as they are not the majority in their opinions about President Obama.

          I hope you are not beating yourself up over this. You apologized. People of faith or suppose to forgive, especially when something is said that was not intended and/or taken out of context. As I said on another thread. We are on the same team here. If one of us makes a mistake, I don’t think the whole site should get thrown under the bus. Just my 2 cents.

          • February 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm

            Thanks so much sabreen60, I’m relieved you read it as a rant against the Catholic hierarchy, and not Catholics themselves, which was always my intention. No worries, we’ll press on ;-) Thanks again.

      • 22 Mel
        February 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm

        Yes, yes, and yes very well put, we need to stick together the RW’S would like no more, but to divid us,
        but we are not going let them play this game we are smarter than that.
        , we are not stupid.

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Rodger japa two one. As I’ve said before I’ll be your wing man any time. Your perception and insight gives this geezer hope that there are still some folks left that aren’t acting like cold water on a hot skillet. Be well my brother and be at peace. ;-)

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:02 pm

        Yardarm seven five six, it would be an honor to have you be my wing man, as I mentioned once before. And as one geezer to another, keep the faith and our mission will be a success.

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      My opinion is the less mixing of religion in politics/government, the better. That subject has no business in political discourse. It is too emotional, too personal, too divisive. There are as many different opinions about the value and degree and brand of religion as there are people. The separation of church and state has served us well. There are reasons we are now being bombarded by religious talk/rants/attacks against President Obama. And none of them are advantageous to our interests here. None.

      • February 21, 2012 at 1:25 pm

        I agree. The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing.

      • 27 nospin
        February 21, 2012 at 6:30 pm

        “My opinion is the less mixing of religion in politics/government, the better. That subject has no business in political discourse And none of them are advantageous to our interests here. None.”

        I disagree. Obama is a Christian and he is also President. His faith is a part of who he is and has served him well during his tenure as President especially when he is playing the role of Comforter in Chief. There is always room for religion in politics/government as long as your religious beliefs do not interfere with the functions of the government and as long as you understand and respect the fact that folks have a right to their religion or to have none at all.

        • 28 JoJothecat
          February 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm

          Maybe that’s why the Corp GOP don’t recognize his (PBO) form of christianity, it’s too much like Jesus, whom they (GOP) want to pick and choose what parts of Christ’s teachings they want to follow.

      • 30 nathkatun7
        February 22, 2012 at 12:13 am

        I totally agree with you, dotster! Here is what Article VI, paragraph 3, of the Constitution says:

        “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several sate legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of several sates, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; no religious test shall ever be required as qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

        Like you, I think if politicians get into a pissing contest as to who is more religious than the other; which branch of Christianity is more qualified to determine what is moral or not; or assert that Christianity is superior to, and more moral than, other religious faiths —
        including the faith of non-believers — the country will be torn apart because religious faith is really not amenable to rational discourse. I was especially appalled by the language used by Santorum in attacking President Obama’s religious faith by asserting that the President believes in “phony theology.” First, Santorum has no business judging some one else’s beliefs. He needs to heed the injuction” Judge ye not so may also not be judged.” Secondly, and more importantly, Santorum is trying to impose a “religious test,” which is clearly prohibited by the Constitution, as to who should be elected President of the United States. Santorum’s assertions should have been roundly condemned by everyone who claims to follow the Constitution.

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      So, so agree, Japa. This is why the OFA training mantra– Respect, Include, Empower– is so important for all of us to remember when we reach out to voters. If you begin with “respect” you don’t mock or undervalue anyone’s religious beliefs no matter what your own are. If WE and everyone who volunteers for OFA “model” respect in our daily interactions with others, we will not only win people’s hearts, we will stand in glaring contrast to the hate-spewing bigotry that people are hearing from Republicans. PBO models respect for others in every aspect of his life. When Santorum criticizes him for being too considerate of Muslims, he is actually telling us that as president he would not be respectful of any faith but the narrow version of Catholicism he espouses.

      • 32 GGail
        February 21, 2012 at 12:45 pm

        Well said Jackie. Thank you japa for reposting. I went back this morning to read last nights threads and saw what you wrote. I’m glad you brought it over here. People of all faiths should read and consider your words.

        Good west coast morning to you all and to our wonderful Chipsticks :-)

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:40 pm

      Hi Japa,

      Thanks so much for that, a really thoughtful, interesting read.

      Inevitably, any discussion on religion and the social/political stances taken by its various ‘churches’ risks descending in to a verbal squabble, with unhappy repercussions, few issues raise the heat quite like this one. And, as you mentioned, most of the big liberal sites tend to erupt when the topic of religion is raised.

      I don’t even think the RW have to push or manipulate this – although they obviously do – the politics of religion has and probably always will be a divisive issue, even among friends, often of the same faith and same political beliefs. I don’t think the issue ever really goes away – and my Irish blood can, sadly, confirm how costly those divisions can be.

      There is, I think, huge intolerance from all sides in these discussions, from believers and non-believers, opinions are so strong everyone tends to adopt a ‘not an inch’ stance and often not much respect is shown to those with an opposing view. I’m most certainly guilty of that at times, so that’s when people like me have to be careful about distinguishing between a faith’s leadership and a faith’s followers.

      But it’s a discussion we really can’t avoid having, however sensitive it might be. Of course the RW will try and use it to divide us, but that’s when liberals, believers and non-believers, have to stay united and recognize that while they might differ, strongly, on church issues, they ultimately believe in the same progressive politics and have the same desire for justice and equality – as most moderates in most faiths do too.

      It’s not easy, of course, but it was heartening to see from the polls how little impact the RW’s attempted manipulation of the birth control issue had. Maybe we’re smarter than we give ourselves credit for?

      But I agree Japa, we need to be cautious on this. Thanks again.

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:56 pm

        Like Mr. Miyogi said, “FOCUS”!

        • February 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm

          Exactly, yardarm: “Like Mr. Miyogi said, “FOCUS” “. As a lapsed catholic, who has long been agnostic, I am horrified how many on the left denigrate people of faith (NOT you Chipsticks; your rant doesn’t fit neither my experience nor my criteria that informs my assertion). Anyway, even as an agnostic, I see PBO as the Christian who most follows the teachings of Christ.

          If we all can be more sensitive and respecting of some of our more religious members then we won’t be divided. Plus, if the Santorums and the culture warriors (I include the Catholic Bishops-NOT many of the rank and file) want this war, I believe our president can match them, toe-to-toe on Biblical issues and again appeal to our better angels.

      • 36 57andFemale
        February 21, 2012 at 1:39 pm

        None of this matters if Dem’s do their job and VOTE. Don’t care if you’re ‘not in love’. Voting against a party that has gone completely batshit crazy should be motivation enough for Dem’s to do their job and vote to move the ball down the liberal field.

        Last month Washington Monthly did their issue on “what if Obama loses”. We here know everything that was said but there was one point that sticks with me: this time they mean it. This time, they will do everything they say they are going to do. They will destroy America as we know it and will install a judicial system and a Supreme Court that will make this true for the next two generations. We may be at the most perilous point in history since the Civil War. I’m deadly serious.

        Get enthusiastic about stopping THAT, Dem’s and independents. I don’t see why Obama isn’t at 70% approval, frankly — he’s a great President. Do you think Repubs were in love with either of the Bushies or Bob Dole or John McCain? No. But they voted because they understand the long game. We have a Republican House of Representatives that LAUGHED when the Republican leaders brought in serious economists to explain the debt ceiling to them. these are outrageously stupid, ideological loons who will destroy the world.

        Let’s be clear: Romney hasn’t said ONE THING that would indicate a moderate position on the birth control issue or any of the other social issues. He will do what Grover Norquist tells him to do with not an ounce of conscience.

        Vote. Vote enthusiastically. Stopping these guys is reason enough.

      • February 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm

        Chips, thank you for your response. I think the key part of your response, which actually goes directly to I was talking about is this:

        “But it’s a discussion we really can’t avoid having, however sensitive it might be. Of course the RW will try and use it to divide us, but that’s when liberals, believers and non-believers, have to stay united and recognize that while they might differ, strongly, on church issues, they ultimately believe in the same progressive politics and have the same desire for justice and equality – as most moderates in most faiths do too. ”

        Unfortunately, I have seen too many on the left who chose to ignore that advice and will mock virtually anyone who expresses a religious belief. And where itcomes a problem is when the RW takes those comments and brings them out to the general public as representative of what the left “truly” believes of people with religious beliefs. And that has been done where an anonymous comment from the comment section of a posting is used that way.

        There is also a tendency to automatically assume anyone who is verbal about ther belief in Christianity, for example is assumed to be a RW nutcase. See the comment below in the discussion about Jennifer Weddell where someone wrote “Did you see all the crosses on her wall?”

        It would be nice if we could avoid all discussion of religion, but that cannot happen. What we have to be aware of is that at least part of the RW manipulation of religion is to create the kind of division and infighting I refer to. And as you perfectly point out, in a way far better than I could ever do, we need to stay focused on what unites us and not stoop into the mudbath of what we disagree on, particularly when it comes to religion, faith, belief or lack of belief.

        • February 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm

          Linda’s right Japa, you really need to start posting these thoughts outside of the comments here, I’m so flippin’ stubborn I rarely stop and think at all …. but you’ve managed to make even me stop and think. And that’s quite a feat. :???:

          It would be a complete pleasure to post you here, any time at all – and that offer is open to absolutely everyone – but, again, Linda’s right, you deserve a much bigger platform, like the People’s View. Have a think about it.

          Any way, I agree with every word.

          There is no doubt that some on the left display a spectacular hypocrisy when, on the one hand, they rail about the right’s intolerance towards any one they see as ‘different’ (eg those of a ‘non-Christian’ faith, ‘different’ sexuality, ‘different’ ethnicity, ‘different’ nationality, etc), but on the other hand they display just as much intolerance – and contempt – towards people of any faith at all.

          As I mentioned last time, I think the key for those ‘non-believers’ who feel angry about the influence of religion on politics is to remember to distinguish between those whose faith is a loving, inclusive, motivational force for good, and those who use it only to divide and promote hate and suspicion.

          The failure to distinguish between those two groups is inexcusable. And I’m certainly guilty of it some times when the red mist descends.

          But equally, I do think some of faith on the left can be intolerant towards those who worry about the blend of religion and politics, partly because, in the most extreme examples, that blend has been nothing short of a catastrophe through history.

          Most of those ‘non-believers’ would prefer if faith was just something that privately informed a person’s politics, and resent their secular wishes not being respected.

          But, as you said, a whole lot more unites these ‘groups’ than divides them, so it is and should be about tolerating their differences and working towards common goals. And always remembering that without that unity you risk seeing a creature like Rick Santorum being sworn in as the 45th President.

          God forbid!

          Thanks Japa.

    • February 21, 2012 at 5:29 pm

      You are exactly right. I get as angry at extreme left people, commentators and others who do not support PBO whole-heartedly, but every time someone says “We don’t need them” I have a little thought that says, ‘yes, we do.’ Not to say that we shouldn’t push back on their baloney, but that we need to do it without name-calling. I’ve been on other sites where, as you said, any mention of religion is treated with scorn and I have to hold my tongue. It doesn’t affect my vote because I know it’s not coming from PBO but it might be very discouraging for someone else and it certainly gives the RW an opening to say that Democrats are ‘anti-religion’. I’m not too proud of some of the people representing Christianity these days (a vast understatement) but it’s hard when people I’ve interacted with closely for several years take the stance that they represent ALL Christianity. Frankly I want to say “If you heard someone saying those things about ‘all Muslims’ you would be very offended.” Christians are not being ‘persecuted’ and I understand the frustration people have who are being or feel they are being constantly put down by people who say they represent Christians and I agree with them! I just wish they would take the discernment and good judgment they with other issues and use it with religious issues too.

  6. 40 Linda
    February 21, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Hypocrite Franklin Graham

    • 41 Brian
      February 21, 2012 at 11:28 am

      Every time I hear one of these despicable, double-speaking, holier-than-thou, so-called spiritual leaders like Franklin Graham, I can only recall the shortest verse in the Bible, “Jesus wept.” And he’d weep still if he know the garbage that is spewed in his name.

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:30 am

      this guy should really be ashamed of himself. Like a loose canon. Does he really believe in God? and if he really does, what does he think God thinks about the way he’s acting? he’s not being very ‘christ-like,’ that’s for sure. :|

      • 43 Linda
        February 21, 2012 at 11:38 am

        He believes in the ” Green God ” $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        Jesus had some pretty strong sentiments to those who brag about their faith but are not charitable in their heart.

        • 46 CTGirl
          February 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

          Indeed, indeed:

          Matthew 23:13-15
          “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

    • 47 anniebella
      February 21, 2012 at 12:11 pm

      So Graham knows Santorum is a christian, it jump right out of his mouth that Santorum is one. He even knows Newt is one, he question Mitt, but there is no doubt that President Obama is not a christian. Graham not only believes President Obama is not a christian, he think he is a muslim. As I said before , he is a disgrace.

      • 48 anniebella
        February 21, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        I was glad someone straighten Franklin out, it’s President Obama, not Obama. Then he goes on to say that the President seem to be more concern about the Muslim, than the Christians who are being murder by the Muslims. I think anyone can look at this and they will lose what respect they might have had for Franklin Graham.

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm

      Credit where it’s due to Willie Geist for not letting Graham off the hook and to whoever corrected Graham when he said Obama without putting the title of President in front of it.

    • 50 GGail
      February 21, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      OMG! sleezy slimy F. Graham made my blood pressure shoot up!!!!

    • February 21, 2012 at 1:01 pm

      My Grandma would call him “mealy mouthed”. Native Americans called it “forked tongue”.

    • 52 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      February 21, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      WHAT A DEPLORABLE THING FOR GRAHAM TO SAY…OF COURSE HE TOOK PALIN ON THE ROAD W/ HIM…SO AM NOT EXPECTING CLEAR THINKING HERE! SHAMEFUL!

  7. 53 Pamela
    February 21, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Thanks for the heads up, Chips, my head was down, reading the rise and shine, here now, 5 more minutes!

  8. 54 Linda
    February 21, 2012 at 11:28 am

    When the Mormons covert people to their faith …they count them as ” Units” converted.

    Seems odd….Is that why some people call Mitt, the ” Romney Unit” ?

    • 55 susanne
      February 21, 2012 at 6:07 pm

      i live next door to a lds church, and have many lds friends. hawaii was heavily missionized by the mormons and many others, but mormonism has a strong presence here.

      i haven’t heard about the ‘units’ but i will ask one of my friends what that means. in any case, i think we need to be careful making light of anybody’s religion per se. certainly there are whacky and/or criminal members of every faith, but it’s not the faith we need to target. it’s the person’s behavior.

      sorry if i sound preachy, and i know you meant no harm with your comment, linda. it’s just that we all seem to be a bit tender still from recent discussions of religion. i personally took a lesson from those discussions of catholicism, and am trying to be more conscious of how my little jokes might affect others.

      i’ve always had a certain prejudice against mormonism, i will admit–didn’t even know i had it until i started making mormon friends here. it’s still a pretty exotic religion in many parts of the country, so easily misunderstood. long story short, it’s not robme’s mormonism that makes him a despicable person and ridiculous candidate. he gives us plenty of material for jokes and discourse, without referencing his religious beliefs.

      again, sorry for the rant, but your comment got me thinking. aloha!

      • February 21, 2012 at 6:17 pm

        I think the “Romney Unit’ thing may be in response to what some feel is his robotic demeanor.

      • 57 nospin
        February 21, 2012 at 6:38 pm

        good points Susanne. Personally I am offended when Romney is attacked based on his religion. It drives me nuts when folks are compelled to defend President Obama when someone refers to him as Muslim. I don’t see why that would be a problem (outside the fact that he is Christian) but so what if he was Muslim?

        To me that is no different than someone who is attacked attacked because of the color of their skin.

        My hope is more people will evolve to the point were we debate issues based on on policies vs. religious beliefs and percentage of melanin.

  9. February 21, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

  10. February 21, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Just a minute before the DOW hit 13,000, someone on CNBC actually asked the “expert” whether there was some manipulation going on to keep the DOW just under the13,000 marker. The “expert” said that while it’s illegal to do that, it can’t be denied that some people might be trying to do that. It was interesting that right after it hit the 13,000 marker, it dropped about 5 points – in protest.

    I wonder if it will break the all time high before the 2012 election?

    Even though the pundits will refuse to do it, President Obama deserves much of the credit in restoring confidence in the markets and the economy that allowed the DOW to recover to this point.

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:39 am

      People don’t realize how meaningful this is. While a lot of people don’t own stock personally, they do participate in 401Ks at work, have IRAs, etc. All of these are impacted by the rise in the stock market. A lot of people who retired just before the crash were negatively impacted as many of them were counting on an income from their IRA’s and 401Ks which suddenly lost a lot of value. Those peonmore in those accounts for their future.

      This is part of the Senior vote we must go after, even if they are traditionally Republican. We need to point out how the policies of this administration have basically saved their retirement.

    • 61 Bill
      February 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      The market is too big to manipulate, but a number of computerized trading programs may be programmed to take profits at certain levels which can create selling at bench mark levels. Once the selling has taken place the averages can continue going up.

  11. 62 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 11:34 am

    INSIDE THE SEXUAL COUNTERREVOLUTION

    For the last 40 years, the right’s sexual paranoia has warped our politics. An expert explains how to change that

    By Megan Wood

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    Why is the sexual counterrevolution so key to solving our political and economic problems?

    The voting base that has fueled the rise of the right cared most about these issues — of sex and gender and family and abortion and gay marriage. Their conservatism on those issues initially moved them into the Republican Party and has basically thrown anyone out of the Republican Party that disagrees with them. For other reasons, these people who I call sexual fundamentalists support small government except in your bedroom because they feel that liberals and secular humanists and Democrats have imposed these cultural values on the country that they don’t support. So they want to go back to a time when religious morality dictated the law on family and sex in America. They want to go back to a time when gay sex was illegal, abortion was illegal, and now they’re going after birth control.
    .
    .
    What do you see as the long-term outcome of the sexual counterrevolution? Do you think there’s hope?

    I do think there’s hope. And I think there’s a way to hold it at bay, and in some ways defeat it if everyone stays informed about what’s going on and stays active, and votes in every election. In 2010, 40 million Americans who voted in 2008 stayed home, and that’s how the Tea Party elected these Republicans who want to outlaw birth control, abortion and gay marriage. If all those people who had voted in 2008 had voted in 2010, we would have never had this far-right Republican majority in Congress. The answer is to vote and stay informed, and we can put an end to this.

    ==========================

    http://www.salon.com/2012/02/20/inside_the_sexual_counterrevolution/singleton/

  12. February 21, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Good Morning TOD family

    I have just finished another page for the Election Toolkit series.

    Voter Suppression Issues :: Election Toolkit

    major thanks to snoopy4eva who contributed the majority of these resources, and waited patiently while I finally got around to using them.

    If anyone has additional resources please post them below.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2012/01/voter-suppression-issue-resources.html

    • 64 isonprize
      February 21, 2012 at 11:45 am

      WiW, I just want to thank you for the work that you put into your site. What a blessing. You are really amazing. Have you considering connecting with the Obama tech squad? I’m sure that’s not their official name. But I remember reading that the campaign has an outreach to volunteers who blog/work on the interwebs…

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:36 pm

      Thank you WIW. This is phenomenal. I have been waiting for word from the Pa legislature about the voter the suppression ac in this state, but so far it has not come up for a vote in the Senate. Just a point of clarity: currently first-time voters in PA have to present an ID, although photo is not required. My deep concern as we register new voters is that we won’t have information on what they must do to vote because the issue is up in the air.

    • February 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      WiW,

      It’s always my pleasure…

      Here are other “takes” on YES.WE.CAN, Again: ;)

      @angryblacklady: How We Win in 2012: Getting Started… http://www.angryblacklady.com/2012/02/10/how-we-win-in-2012-getting-starte/ Via @angryblacklady at @thepeoplesview

      The GOP rides into the sunset….

      “But we have to be committed to hurrying them along.”

      …So, gentle reader, here’s the point: Whether its leaders realize it or not, the GOP is pulling away from the American shore. Way, waaaaay away. As its primary function is to protect the moneyed class and promote the world-view (to which I believe many Republicans sincerely subscribe) that being not-poor is a simple matter of will, the Republican Party will soon have to start shifting its place on social issues if it’s going to stick to its larger goal.

      Bottom line, this is good. There will always be rich people who want to protect their hoard from the hordes, but as we chip away at the social issues, we’ll also (unbeknownst to them) be chipping away at the economic ones. The more people who are genuinely enfranchised, the better the power will be distributed.

      Other bottom line? It’s up to us to give the GOP the push. If we want the Republicans to stop assaulting the rights and dignity of entire American communities, we need to act on the knowledge that Americans don’t like what they say. Whatever the hell kind of not-Republican you consider yourself to be, you have to get involved with the 2012 election. You can start here, or here, or by picking up the phone and calling your local Democrats. [Let’s not forget the dscc… http://www.dscc.org/join_us%5D

      Let’s regain the House, strengthen our hold on the Senate, sweep through our statehouses and city halls, and show the GOP what America really thinks.

      Remember 2010: Elections have consequences. Polls don’t matter, unless people vote.

      http://www.angryblacklady.com/2012/02/16/the-gop-rides-into-the-sunset/ Via Emily L. Hauser at @angryblacklady

      Deaniac83′s ‘Wake-Up Call’ Write-up:

      Jim Crow may be coming soon to a state near you… http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/02/jim-crow-may-be-coming-soon-to-state.html

      And, somethin’ some Obamacrat/Obot TOD’ers and others don’t know:

      Supreme Court upholds voter ID law: Stevens – Law justified to protect integrity, reliability of electoral process… http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24351798/ns/politics/t/supreme-court-upholds-voter-id-law/#.T01-RZgqPuR

      Project Vote Smart… http://www.votesmart.org/

      Rock The Vote… http://www.rockthevote.com/

      GottaRegister… https://www.gottaregister.com/

      YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together – WE MUST!
      YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
      WE CAN’T WAIT/WE CAN’T GO BACK…So, LET’S STAY/REBUILD TOGETHER 2012!
      PRESS ON!

  13. 68 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 11:40 am

    PBO and VP BIden!!

  14. 73 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 11:42 am

    What a gorgeous mosaic of individuals from all backgrounds, cultures, races, men and women, standing behind our President and VP representing the American people.

  15. 74 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    February 21, 2012 at 11:43 am

    I’VE GOT HIM ON MSNBC…MERCI…GRACIAS AND THANK YOU!..:)

  16. February 21, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Remember the woman, Jennifer Wedel, who told PBO about her unemployed husband in that live video chat, and blamed H-1B visas for him not being able to get work?

    I was never sure what to make of her, she said some supportive things about PBO after, so I wasn’t convinced she was a complete wingnut.

    Any way, remember PBO was really surprised that her husband couldn’t find a job when he was an electrical engineer? “The word we’re getting is that someone in that high-tech field should be able to find something right away,” he told her.

    Does any one remember her mentioning this at the time: “….. The White House followed through. The Wedels say several companies outside the area have contacted them. However, a custody agreement limits the job search to North Texas.”

    So he can only look for jobs in north Texas?

    That’s tough on him, I know, but did she mention this when she told PBO about how hard her husband was finding it to get a job? I would have thought it was kind of relevant?

    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/02/20/wife-who-sent-husbands-resume-to-president-launches-website/

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:57 am

      nope she didn’t.. but I had bad vibes from her from the get-go.. her “jig” comment had me screeching.. then afterward when she said she “might” vote for POTUS, I realized that no matter what he does, what he says or how caring he is- some folks will never get past their own bigotry.

      Thanks for the additional info on her.

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:59 am

      How strange that she forgot to mention this little tidbit. Hmmmm……… Thanks Chips. To be honest, I never really wondered about it afterwards cause I took it for granted that once PBO got involved, the matter would be settled.

    • 78 cos
      February 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm

      Good morning Chips and TOD. It goes to show, it pays to look under the hood a little further. Thanks for the link.

    • 79 hopefruit2
      February 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm

      I would think it’s very relevant. Being limited to one state would make a HUGE difference in his ability to find employment in this economy. She didn’t mention the custody situation because she was hell bent on accusing the President and holding him responsible for her husband’s unemployment. I’m glad PBO followed through – he probably suspected that he we weren’t being told the whole story, but he was also sincerely interested in the husband being able to find a job. Thus two things were achieved…it’s a win-win situation.

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:03 pm

        good points hopefruit.

      • 81 Ladyhawke
        February 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm

        When President Obama said the words below and asked for his resume, I said to myself well if there is anything fishy about her story it will be revealed in short order.

        ——————————————————-

        “The word we’re getting is that someone in that high-tech field should be able to find something right away,” he told her.

        ——————————————————-

      • February 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm

        My sense is that she was looking to be the 2012′s version of “Joe, the NOT Plumber”.

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      As I’ve often said Chips. It all depends on who’s ox gets gored as to who complains and why. Besides TEXAS! Puuuuhhhleeeeze!

    • 84 Linda
      February 21, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      Did you see the wall in her home covered in crosses ?

    • 85 Ladyhawke
      February 21, 2012 at 12:19 pm

      LYING BY OMISSION

      Also known as a continuing misrepresentation, a lie by omission occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. When the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service, the seller lies by omission.

      ==========================================

      I was suspicious of Jennifer Wedel’s story from jump street. It was too neat. There was something about her story that sent my antennas up. You just got the impression that there was some important piece of information that we were not privy to. And apparently, we now know what that piece of information was.

      If her husband can not relocate to another state to get a job as an engineer and this is a self imposed restriction then what does H1-B visas have to do with that? I am glad we have finally gotten to the crux of he matter. It sheds a whole new light on why it is taking him so long to find employment.

    • 86 anniebella
      February 21, 2012 at 12:41 pm

      Maybe that Jennifer can go ask Franklin Graham to get her husband a job. Better yet go ask Mitt, Newt, Paul, or that Santorum to help her husband fine a job.

      • February 21, 2012 at 1:21 pm

        Jennifer probably doesn’t realize that her GOP heroes have called unemployed people “lazy” and “parasites”. She won’t get any help there.

    • 88 GGail
      February 21, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      No she did not mention this very relevant point as to why her husband is still unemployed and H-1B has nothing to do with his continued unemployment. As far as I’m concerned, she mis-represented herself and her husband to the President of the United States!

  17. 89 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “Everybody needs a hug from Obama!”

    Truer words have never been spoken!

    I LOVE IT :)

  18. February 21, 2012 at 11:52 am

    was coming here to say: PBO called them out with their “phony debates!!!” when I missed what happened at the end that made everybody laugh. :x Curses!!! When I got back to the screen, some loud guy said something like: “everybody wants a hug from Obama……..Mr. President!”—–what did I miss?

    • February 21, 2012 at 11:55 am

      The President was shaking hands with people, and one women held on to his hand so long and was smiling from ear to ear. The President then stepped towards her with his arm open, and offered her a hug. She basically threw herself into the hug, and some man in the audience said, “everybody needs a hug from Obama”. (I wished he had said “President Obama…”. Then he called out “Mr. President”, and President Obama made a quick exit. It was upbeat, but I don’t know what the man’s intentions were.

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm

        thanks, Theo! If I’d have been that woman, SS would have had to remove my limp carcass from PBO’s person.

      • 94 hopefruit2
        February 21, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        I don’t think he meant it in a bad way. Some people say “Obama” when they get caught up in the moment, but not be offensive.

        • February 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm

          I hope that’s true, but when you’re standing right in front of the President, and he’s behind his presidential seal, it just seems like something that should be pretty easy to keep in mind. However, the moment was a sweet one – no denying that.

      • February 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm

        grazie, bella!!!!! You are a life saver, Chips!!!

      • 99 hopefruit2
        February 21, 2012 at 12:05 pm

        That was FAST Chips!!!

        Now can you imagine someone saying “everybody needs a hug from Santorum, or Paul, or Mankini, or Willard!?” Instead of being met with claps, chuckles and cheers, it would be met with a huge “eewwwwwwww!”

        • 100 susanne
          February 21, 2012 at 6:14 pm

          really! i can barely stand to look at their photos, let alone consider being personally slimed by having one of them eeeeuuuwwww touch me!

      • 101 Bill
        February 21, 2012 at 12:10 pm

        Compare what is on this video to the hate that radiates from the Republican candidates. It is difficult to understand why there is even a contest this year.

        • 102 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          February 21, 2012 at 12:37 pm

          PEOPLE ARE UNFORTUNATELY RULED BY FEAR,IGNORANCE,ARROGANCE AND YES ‘RACISM’…THIS IS WHERE WE ARE FOLKS..AND SO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXEMPLARY PRESIDENT…OIL UP YOUR BOOTS…THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG ONE!

      • 103 lovingandlaughing
        February 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm

        i am sure everyone else there was hoping they’d be next up for a hug too!

  19. 104 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    THE PROBLEM WITH TOO MUCH RED MEAT

    By Steve Kornacki

    ====================================

    So for now, at least, Santorum is virtually alone as he confronts Romney’s money and attacks — and now a days-long media firestorm over his own comments. It’s not a myth that there was, and is, an opening to Romney’s right. But Santorum may learn that even in the GOP of 2012, there’s such a thing as too much red meat.

    ====================================

    http://www.salon.com/2012/02/21/the_problem_with_too_much_red_meat/

    • February 21, 2012 at 12:41 pm

      Yep, i agree with this. Santorum has gone so far overboard it will probably negate concerns conservatives have about Romney. Still, I think our president is in a good place.

      • 106 anniebella
        February 21, 2012 at 12:53 pm

        Grumpy, the problem here is that Mitt has also been pull so far to the right that if he tries to come to the center, he will lose those crazy right wingnuts who never trust him in the first place.

        • 107 Bill
          February 21, 2012 at 1:02 pm

          I think you are right, Anniebelle. If Willard comes back to the center he will be eaten alive. It is going to be interesting to see if he picks a right wing nut to run with him if he is nominated.

  20. 108 Linda
    February 21, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    CNBC host Larry Kudlow reports at National Review that Mitt Romney is set to release a brand new tax plan sometime this week.

    Kudlow:

    I’m embargoed from releasing details until tomorrow. But I can say that the new plan will be across-the-board with supply-side incentives from rate reduction, and that it will help small-business owners as well as everyone else.

    Romney’s existing tax plan became the subject of much scorn among Democrats after it was discovered it would lower the taxes for the wealthy while raising them on people who make less than $40,000.


    TPMLivewire

    Why does Kudlow have access ??????

  21. 113 Linda
    February 21, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Supreme Court Considers Delaying Health Care Ruling To 2014

    The Supreme Court is poised to rule this summer on the constitutionality of the health care reform law’s requirement that Americans buy insurance or pay a tax penalty. But it has the legal option to delay a decision until at least 2014, and although the possibility has received little attention, new evidence suggests that justices are considering it more strongly.

    The temporary escape hatch involves the Anti-Injunction Act, an age-old law that says courts may not halt a tax that isn’t yet being collected. (Under the Affordable Care Act, it won’t be collected until 2014.) Although the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals last fall tossed out a lawsuit against the mandate on this basis, most courts have decreed that the statute doesn’t apply here.

    But further evidence that justices may disagree came Tuesday, when the Supreme Court increased the time for next month’s oral arguments from 5.5 hours to 6 hours, allotting an extra half hour to discuss the application of the Anti-Injunction Act. That means there will be a full hour and a half to discuss whether the court has the authority to rule on the health law this year.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/supreme-court-considers-delaying-health-care-ruling-to-2014.php

    I have been saying this for two years….because this is what Justice Ginsberg has said all along.

    There is NO VICTIM ( Defendant )……but NO ONE has had to pay yet.

  22. 114 OkeyO
    February 21, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Chips just watched the video of the so called arbiter ” Graham ” of who is a christian it just made me cry to see how a wonderful and most honourable President I mean President Barack Obama is being talked about by this religeous nuts. I am Christian and infact a Southern Baptist who is married to a white woman and we left our predominantly white church after the election of the President because it became so political in that I just couldn’t stand it anymore. I am just wondering where are all this Black Preachers. Rev Jakes where are you guys, why so silent do you all agree with this nonsense from Graham. Your silent in this matter is baffling. We save a Great God that love all mankind.

  23. 119 OkeyO
    February 21, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    spell check ” We serve a Great God that loves all mankind equally.”

  24. 120 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Press Secretary Jay Carney is at the podium. The hour of the jackals is upon us.

  25. February 21, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    So Franklin Graham has the last say on what is considered Christianity? If so, who elected him the boss of everybody? The response should always be, PBO is a christian and so what if he isn’t? Same with Mitty, so what? This is why i think that this whole thing is and has always been about religion from the invention of the teabaggers to the faux concern over contraceptives. The problem is they over-reached when they thought they could squeeze through the sliver of daylight they had with Islam phobia that swept the country.

    • February 21, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      Didn’t the President say kind words about this Franklin Graham’s father during the prayer breakfast a couple of weeks ago? In this case, the apple seems to have fallen very far from the tree. I don’t even think he can see how toxic his soul has become.

      • 124 Pamela
        February 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm

        Said apple has rolled very far down from the top of the hill, along with dozens more bad apples. Better for them to compost away from the tree. Pathetic how seriously they take themselves.

  26. 125 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    The Republican Party obsession with the Keystone Pipeline is just twisted and sick. Now they want to tie releasing the oil reserves because of high prices at the pump with approving the Keystone Pipeline. And Jake Tapper is asking this question as if the GOP is a credible opposition party. They are a laughingstock and an embarrassment.

    • 126 hopefruit2
      February 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm

      Any questions for Tapper about the oil speculators who are behind the rising prices? Oh, that’s right, I didn’t think so.

    • 127 hopefruit2
      February 21, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      Correction: I meant *from* Tapper.

    • February 21, 2012 at 1:28 pm

      The Keystone Pipeline has no route. That should be the first and last point.

      • February 21, 2012 at 1:30 pm

        Actually, there’s another point – the pipeline will simply transport oil from Canada to the US coast, in order to sell the oil on the open market. There will likely be no oil that will be provided to the United States directly from this Keystone Pipeline.

        • 130 Ladyhawke
          February 21, 2012 at 1:41 pm

          Thank you theo67 this is a point that the Republican Party never mentions for obvious reasons. I really would like to hear this point made more frequently. Also, I have to tell you every time I see a map of the United States with the proposed pipeline I am outraged. The thought of that pipeline snaking through this country should give everyone pause. The environmental dangers are enormous. And we should risk all that so that the oil can be sold to China? Unbelievable.

        • February 21, 2012 at 2:27 pm

          THANK YOU THEO,: when will this be discussed plus the fact that the pipeline already exists to the Midwest and keeps the oil in the US? Plus, from what I’ve read it’s helped keep gas prices down in the Midwest . The big money forces are indeed using Citizens United to “end democracy as we know it”. What say you “PolitiFarce”?!

        • 136 susanne
          February 21, 2012 at 6:20 pm

          that’s a huge point. my friends in canada say the real issue is the environmentalists have effectively halted plans for a trans-canada route, so their government is trying to slam the thing across america instead. big win for their big rw man. there’s nothing in it for us–except lining the pockets of lobbyists.

  27. 137 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 1:15 pm
  28. February 21, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    lol I was up early with my son because he had been feeling sick yesterday, and he woke up to me going through the posts for the last 2 days since I havent really caught up much on here.. anyways..

    So, my son wakes up and gets on my bed *hubby works night shift*, watching me going through the TOD site, and we start watching all the videos posted and reading all the articles linked here (he especially loves the Comic/Cartoon drawings, he draws his PBO cartoons from being inspired by TOD)…

    We watched the video of Franklin Graham who said he ‘wasnt sure if President Obama is Christian’…. and my son says… huh? Of course President Obama is Christian, he says “God Bless the United States of America” after every speech.. those people are silly.. you can tell he’s Christian cause if he wasn’t, why would President Obama bother to bless the American people with Gods blessings?… lol Had my heart smiling!

    ====

    Also, I was going over the Political Ads here in NZ compared to the U.S with some friends…. and I must admit…. our Ads and interviews here with Politicians would be classed G-rated compared to how it is there lol

    P.s – I saw the posts on J’O’B… although I didn’t know her too well, or as long as many on here.. I hope she is well and that she returns at some point, but I am still happy with how it is here because Chipsticks and many others who contribute to the site never miss a beat.. so therefore if I was to be honest… I never noticed there were any issues or that she had left (if that offends some people, sorry, but I am being honest) I didn’t notice.

    P.p.s – Chipsticks, the photos you post are becoming more deliciousssssss each time :lol: We love the PBO pictures! I download most of my PBO pics from here… *drools* lmaooo :lol: :lol:

    • February 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm

      You’ve got one smart little son, there! I hope he’s feeling better today.

    • 141 Pamela
      February 21, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      Your son is the promise of a bright future for this world. Glad he is better today!

      • February 21, 2012 at 2:36 pm

        Thanks theo67 and Pamela…… he sure is getting better now…. he wasn’t able to eat yesterday but we just had batches of Pancakes this morning lol So his appetite is back to normal :lol:

        and you know how kids are….. they will tell it like it is when they have the freedoms to do so (by not being intimidated to speak their mind etc). I have always told my son… no matter how bad something is or if you think mommy is going to yell or get angry etc… always communicate with me so I know whats up…. just don’t be rude about it lol

        Sometimes we watch a video on President Obama and he can hear that racist/bigot tone or language people use towards him……. and he will suddenly say mom, if I married a girl who was different race, or if they were poor, etc. would you be angry like those republicans?

        When we watched videos on DADT, I remember my son asking why do folks get angry over gay people, etc. and he would say, well mom, as an example (his words lol), if I was gay, would you still love me or show up to my wedding? and I have told him yes, my love doesn’t change no matter who you loved, whether it was a girl or boy. (at this point, he makes it clear he likes girls, but was just asking to see what his mom would say).

        I just personally think Parents have that responsibility to have discussions with their children, and let them know that being LGBT is okay and that there is nothing wrong with it, and it’s not them that has the problem, its those who say it is, that do! Some parents may not agree that having this conversation with a 10 (almost 11 in a few months) is appropriate, but many people who are LGBT will tell you that they knew they were gay, lesbian, bi or transgender since the age of 3 or 5, etc. It’s never too early to have conversations with your children is my thing lol My parents never had these conversations with me, and I wish they did, instead of me going out and doing alot of shit that I am not proud of and finding out the hard way in life.

        Anyways… off track lol so Thanks again :-)

        • 143 susanne
          February 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm

          so true–we have the responsibility as parents and grandparents to have difficult conversations with our children. then they can face the world armed with our wisdom and support. they may change their minds about our beliefs, but at least they have a foundation to build their beliefs on.

  29. 144 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Jake Tappers questions come directly from the GOP. He is even parroting their arguments to the replies coming from Jay Carney.

  30. 145 Dudette
    February 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Crazy knows no bounds…

    Indiana Lawmaker Accuses Girl Scouts Of Pushing ‘Pro-Abortion’ Agenda, ‘Homosexual Lifestyles’
    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/21/428865/indiana-lawmaker-accuses-girl-scouts-of-pushing-pro-abortion-agenda-homosexual-lifestyles/

  31. February 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    you all please click on this picture it is priceless. Children are smarter than some adults. LOL Chipstick you gotta see this. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/01/30/us/politics/PRIMARIES-FLORIDA.html?partner=rss&emc=rss#34

  32. 155 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    PRESIDENT OBAMA IS FOCUSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT FRANKLIN GRAHAM

    I love the way Jay Carney just answered a question from Jessica Yellen (CNN) wanting a response on the disgusting comments from Franklin Graham this morning on Morning Joe. Jay essentially said Frankin Graham who??? We are not paying attention to or responding to every negative comment from people on cable tv. He let Jessica know that he met with President Obama for 45 minutes this morning and Franklin Graham did not come up. He told Jessica that President Obama is focused on doing his job and helping the American people and the economy. Take that Jessica.

    • 156 hopefruit2
      February 21, 2012 at 1:36 pm

      HA! Take that Jessica, media and all these KKKLowns in the GOP.

    • February 21, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      I’m so glad that he answered this way. Franklin Graham would do better to guard his own salvation, rather than drawing President Obama’s faith into question. Anyone watching with clear eyes can see President Obama exhibiting Christian values, respecting all religions and faiths, working to make lives better and promote unity – every single day. You can line up one million Franklins or Santorums or Gingrichs, and it won’t change what President Obama believes or taint how he conducts his life. The mud is staying on the hands of those who are trying to throw it.

    • 158 anniebella
      February 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      Bravo to Jay Carney. The President is focusing on trying to help the middle class and poor. Trying to help the economy, he is not focusing on some right wing conservative hate fill pastor. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

    • 159 PurpleShoesLA
      February 21, 2012 at 2:17 pm

      Oh snap! go Jay!! This reminds me of another one of my favorite lines from the movie “The American President” which was on yesterday. In the movie President’s Sheppard’s people were trying to convince him that he needed to respond to the Repug senator who was screaming on th TEEVEE about the President’s girlfriend burning a flag in protest against Apartheid years before they met. And President Shepperd refused, saying “they are just trying to make me take a swing at a pitch in the dirt”, Well, that’s what this Franklin Graham nonsense is, yet another pitch in the dirt, not worth our illustrious Prez’s energy to take a swing at! Our illustrious Prez’s focus is and always has been on DOING his job and doing it well. Obama/Biden 2012!

    • 160 nathkatun7
      February 22, 2012 at 1:26 am

      Who the hell anointed Franklin Graham and Rick Santorum to be the judges as to who is or isn’t a Christian? Can they cite any passage in the bible that empowers them to judge who is or is not a Christian? I am personally sick of all the holier than thou people, of all religious faiths, who constantly claim to be speaking for God. If by any chance it’s true that God speaks through Franklin Graham, and considers Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachman Christians, but not President Obama, then I have absolutely no use for that God. I say that, despite my deep respect for the people of faith who let their good deeds powerfully speak for their faith in God.

  33. 161 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Remember back in 2010 when Jim Cramer told us that “Obamacare” will topple the stock market?

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201003220026

    So where is Mr. Cramer now?

    • 162 Lorraine
      February 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm

      To Jim Cramer’s credit he has been on President Obama side during alot of fights in Washington. On Morning Joke he said that the business community is not there with Romney and they are liking President Obama more and more.

      13,000 and beyond they are about to fall in love with President Obama.

  34. February 21, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Looking these things from ‘afar’, I think many here are falling the latest rethugs distraction of false argument of PBO’s christianity, Rev Wright etc. The same issue which the wingers three at us in 2008. Nothing new to here to see people. Move on and move forward. Most of the voters don’t give a shite about that. If they did, we wouldn’t have a PBO today.

    • 164 MsKitty (@michelec64)
      February 21, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      We got a little over 8 months to go with all this and it’s a given that it will be a lot nastier than it was in 2008, so I’m not gonna catch the vapors over each innuendo or dog whistle du jour. To do otherwise is a sure fire recipe for burnout. I got my hip waders on and I’m ready to get my fight on to make sure that PBO gets another 4 years. It’s all about being focused on the big picture.

    • February 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm

      amk… I have always read your posts, telling us of where you will be traveling to and from…. but I could never pinpoint where you actually lived lol I always thought you were traveling just for work around the different countries

      • February 21, 2012 at 2:27 pm

        Hi, NZ4Obama – I live in India but my business takes me all over the world. And I love it. :)

        The only continent I haven’t been so far is down south. But I hear it is for convicts only. (ducks behind the ‘puter)

        Right now, I am in that kenyan muslin, manchurian’s burt sert country. Or is it a continent? Damn that tundra twit.

        • February 21, 2012 at 2:54 pm

          You had me in fits of laughterrrrrrr reading that!!! Convicts huh? lmao No comment *whistles looking away* :lol: :lol:

          My sister is the traveler in my family lol She has been to Lebanon (her hubby is Lebanese) and India (honeymoon) and to China (Disney World, not sure exactly where that is in China)….. but shes mainly traveling around the South Pacific (Australia, Fiji, Samoa, etc.)

          My other sister sometimes sits with me reading posts since they all know I love being on TOD (shes the deviant of the family lol) and we always scan the entire page to see where you are for the day/week :lol: It’s like a ‘Where’s AMK’ on the World Map for her! lol @ burt sert :lol:

  35. February 21, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Good Day Everyone:-)

    How cool is this…Magic Johnson to have his own network called “Aspire” dedicated to inspire African Americans :-)

    I am so thrilled :-)

    Enjoy your day

    Magic Johnson to launch TV network via Comcast http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/la-fi-ct-magic-johnson-20120221,0,6635305.story

  36. 172 hopefruit2
    February 21, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Coming up on WH Live

    Next Up…
    February 21, 2012 2:30 PM EST
    The First Lady Speaks at the Blues Student Workshop:

  37. February 21, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Check the pic of VP Biden added to the bottom of the post – love him!!!!!

  38. 182 Linda
    February 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    The state Department of Workforce Development will release job numbers next month that could be the most anticipated statistics of Gov. Scott Walker’s short tenure.

    If the January and February numbers show Wisconsin lost another 4,500 positions, the state will — on paper — have fewer jobs now than before Walker took office.

    That could be a big blow for a governor who once joked that he’d tattoo “250,000 jobs” on the foreheads of his cabinet secretaries to remind them of the administration’s reason to exist.

    http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20120221/APC010401/202210400/Job-numbers-not-census-employment-Wisconsin

    GIGGLE

  39. 187 Renegade522/AuntSis
    February 21, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    The President is speaking @ University of Miami on Thursday but its for students only. :( :( Sad news for me. I think I may go and watch the motorcade roll by.

    Jovie, did you see this? DNC beats RNC by $3M….our favorite site politico.

    The Democratic National Committee outraised its Republican counterpart by about $3 million last month, according to reports released Monday.

    The DNC raked in $13.3 million in January, compared to the Republican National Committee’s haul of $10.5 million. The Democrats’ report includes $6.2 million in contributions to the committee, as well as $7 million channeled through the Obama Victory Fund, a joint committee set up by President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign and the DNC.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73087.html#ixzz1n2qxe6Ze

  40. 188 Ladyhawke
    February 21, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    THE GOP AND THE PRESS ARE DESPERATE TO BLAME PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR HIGH OIL PRICES

    Jay Carney is letting them know that President Obama does not control the price of oil. He basically said you guys know that you have been covering this issue for a long time. The are many elements that impact the price of oil. Like turmoil in the Middle East for example. Then he let it be know that one of the reasons why the payroll tax cut was so important was to help Americans with the additional cost of gasoline for their cars. You know the payroll tax cut that the GOP didn’t want to extend.

    • 189 Linda
      February 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm

      They are such frauds……gasoline consumption is at the late 90′s amounts….

      The Democrats pulled this same thing on Bush…..it was embarrassing then also…..

      During the 2008 spike in gas prices it was caused by speculators and not even the oil companies…

      Goldman and JP Morgan were the top two to cash in.

    • February 21, 2012 at 2:29 pm

      “Then he let it be know that one of the reasons why the payroll tax cut was so important was to help Americans with the additional cost of gasoline for their cars.”

      Perfect pivot. Go Jay.

  41. 192 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    February 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO READ AND STUDY INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS…YOU CANNOT BLAME PBO FOR OIL PRICE FLUCTUATION…AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THE IGNORANCE! IF YOU WANT TO TAKE PART IN YOUR COUNTRY…STUDY WHAT IS GOING ON ALL AROUND YOU…NOT JUST YOUR OWN BACKYARD! THIS GIVES ME A RASH!

    • February 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm

      Sue, I was talking to a friend last night who recently became a citizen, seeing if she’s registered to vote. She told me that I’m lucky that the opposition is so bad, because otherwise she’d be voting Republican. Now, this is a person who is a minority woman, graduate school educated, quite liberal socially, but calls herself fiscally conservative. She was talking about how the President’s record is dismal – but when I asked her if she actually knows anything about what the President has achieved or not achieved, she admitted that she has no idea. She also said she doesn’t know what the GOP are actually saying, because they’re too wacky for her to pay attention.

      This is the second time that an educated friend of mine has made broad statements without a single shred of fact.

      I’ve committed to both friends to make it my mission that by the time we get to November, they are going to know every single fact of the President’s record of accomplishment, as well as what today’s Republican party is promising and has done in these last 3 years, and in the last 20 years. They’ve told me they’re “looking forward to it”… We’ll see. It just makes my blood boil when people make these drastic determinations that will have impact for the next generation, when they don’t have a single idea what they’re talking about, and they haven’t made any effort to educate/inform themselves.

      • February 21, 2012 at 2:53 pm

        This is, to put it quite simply, a result of the media. Some blame the WH messaging machine, but the fact is, unless the media takes what they are given by the WH, it doesn’t matter. That is why the President does so many local interviews. Those are more likely to be seen and heard. The Republicans, not being for democrcy in this country, have always worked to keep the public unibformed. I forget which of the founding fathers it was who said, to paraphraseAn infomred public is essential to the success of democracy.” The Republicans believe the opposite, “An uninformed public is essential to the success of the Republican Party.”

        • 195 MsKitty (@michelec64)
          February 21, 2012 at 3:00 pm

          “An uninformed public is essential to the success of the Republican Party.”

          And you can also add uneducated as well. You ever notice that whenever the GOP comes to power whether it be local, state, or national one of the first things they go after is education? I don’t think that is a coincidence.

        • 196 donna dem 4 obama
          February 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm

          Theo I have had to do the exact same thing. I think I have documented here on this blog some of the encounters that I had this past fall with intelligent women who were buying into the meme that Romney’s “business experience” could save the Nation. Now that they see how crazy he is willing to be to appease the far right they are now moving back to this side of the fence. Its frustrating but we have a media that is simply an echo chamber for talking points. They don’t educate the public at all. People don’t understand the dynamics of the recession that we just went through. All they know is unemployment is still high and they loss the value in their homes. Then when they do briefly tune in they hear a big dose of “the failed policies of the Obama Administration” from every Republican that gets camera time. And it is not just on Fox. Repubs go on CNN and MSNBC and say the same thing and rarely if ever are they called on it. The comment is just allowed to stand on its own. Then you have network news CBC, NBC and ABC that go to the “people on the street” that repeat this same garbage. The President gets a 30 second sound bite and some WH Correspondent comes on and gives the Republican side of whatever point the President was attempting to make.

          Which leaves us the informed supporters having to have to re-educate the same people over and over again and I’ll do it as often as necessary.

        • 197 nathkatun7
          February 22, 2012 at 3:40 am

          Japa21, thank you for your excellent commentaries! We should all share them widely beyond the TOD family because they are so enlightening and so necessary in keeping us focused on the big picture. If I am not mistaken, the founding father, who believed that “an informed public is essential to the success of democracy,” was Thomas Jefferson. But then again It could easily have been James Madison, or Benjamin Franklin, or John Adams, or Alexander Hamilton. They all believed in knowledge as the key to progress. They were all part of the Eighteenth Century age of Enlightenment. But even bon fide conservatives, like Edmund Burke, would not recognize the current right wing GOP, with the likes of Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum, who repeatedly disparage educated people — especially those educated at Harvard.

          In my humble opinion, the modern right wing GOP has nothing in common with the founding fathers or with the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln, Charles Sumner, Thaddeus Stevens, Frederick Douglass, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower. A case could also be made that the current GOP, dominated by irrational right wingers, has little resemblance to the GOP of Ronald Reagan and Bush senior. Rather, the current right wing dominated GOP reminds me of the “Know Nothing Party” of the early to mid. 19th Century.

          I don’t know why people refuse to give credit to President Obama for his relentless efforts to tray to work with the GOP to try to solve the problems of the country. I am an oldie who has been around for some time. I know of no other President who has worked as hard as President Obama to try to reach some accommodation with the opposition party only to be rewarded with almost 100% No. I also know of no other President, besides President Obama, who has been treated so unfairly, and so disrespectfully, by the main stream media and elected politicians, as President Obama.

  42. 198 donna dem 4 obama
    February 21, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Who can resist that face :)

  43. 200 Renegade522/AuntSis
    February 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    that’s a nice pic, Donna. No regrets is right.
    HELLO THEO OOOOOO!!!! :)

  44. 201 CEB
    February 21, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Another one won for the American people. I love his focus, determination, and empathy. Sometimes I am in almost disbelief that we have such an incredible man as our president.
    In some photos, if the light is just right, you can see “Barry” looking through his eyes.
    Our VP Biden makes me smile as well. He is having such a good time in this office that he looks younger and more energized than he did in the last years that he was a senator.

    Our guys are so special. How lucky are we to have such a team.


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