Hi everyone, I’ll be back later today, chat away.
Could I be first?
I swear people sit on their computer waiting to be “first”, whatever that means. LOL
Hey jojo! Congratulations!
Thank you , thank you, thank you, and no I don’t sit on my….well ok yes, this time I just Happen to be on the computer and switched back here and there was a new post. I am just lucky, that’s all.
Okay, you can be First, Jojo! :)
Thank you Pamela…. :) :)
Ohhh! MSNBainC is at it again. Mitchel is playing what Robney just said, that the President said the Private Sector is just fine and She has on Tweety to say he is Parsing the Jobs picture.
Here we go again!!! This is all they will play all weekend, every segment 24/7!
Another break from cable!
You’ve got five exclamation marks in this one, Jovie. Maybe you should just avoid the media for today? Take your dog for a walk – enjoy the day.
Six exclamation marks, in fact.
Ooooo!!!!!!!!! Make it seven!!!!!!!!!
Another English teacher!
Please help me straighten out my Longfellow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We anticipated that the MSM would respond in exactly the way you’re describing. In fact, that’s typically how I know that the president’s pressers are effective – when the entire MSM seems to be on a collective anti-Obama meltdown immediately following the session. Cantor and Boehner and Romney all came out immediately after for a reason. They were on the defensive.
The fact that they also pounced on the same issue that the MSM pounced on – which was Obama’s comment about the private sector being fine, also suggests that the MSM/GOP/RNC circulate emails and coordinate their lines of attack. By saying that the private sector is “fine” PBO didn’t just put the GOP in congress on notice, he also put those CEOs in the private company on notice, that he’s on to their tactics of not hiring as much as they could deliberately to hurt the economy, especially since they now have all the tools they need for maximum job creation.
So I don’t think you have much to worry about Jovie – I just keep pushing the truth and challenging the talking points on Twitter. PBO will be fine. The more outraged the media is today and on the weekend, the better I will feel.
Thanks for your adult response.
Will call my mother and tell her what was said, seeing how she was the one who told me.
It was all sort of strange.
Actually, I am quite proficient in English, but my comment was more concerned with your health, as you continue to watch these horrific media shows that do nothing to help anyone’s blood pressure of level of knowledge. I was going crazy myself last week, watching all of it, and finally took a step back and deleted these shows from my DVR – never felt better! They’ll drive you crazy. Nothing but lies and negativity.
I was not even watching, my mother told me!
We will not survive 5 months of this kind of panic level after every Andrea Mitchell fart.
And yet you were on here yesterday saying that you were worried that democrats were demoralized.
Oh yeah. I’ve learned a lot about how to save my energy. didn’t think this old broad was capable of it, but otherwise I can’t fight the long battle.
I totally turned her ass off, and deleted the recording. Also, off with Alex–she’s off my recording list. Tweety is last on the watch list. As soon as he starts the crazy, off he goes. I now have zero tolerance for B.S. TheObamaDiary is my first stop every morning, and my last stop each night. Truthfully, I get most of the info/links I need from this sight. I hit a few of my favorite blogs each day (Steve Benen, Extreme Liberal, AngryBlackLady, Smartypants, PMCarpenter, The People’s View and ‘What is Working’. ‘What is Working’ has wonderful information regarding programs and innovations. It is truly enlightening, and a feel-good read. No FOX-except through progressive links, No CNN–except weekends. I have given these idiots enough of my time. When my erstwhile friends call with their hair on fire, because they heard some anti-Obama nonsense, I will no longer spend time trying to talk them down. They need to start doing their own research. All I will say is Obama will win, and I already have my ticket to D.C. and a hotel reservation, for the 2013 Obama Inaugural. Any fool who thinks a pathological liar and bully, with no integrity, ethics, character or ideas, should or could have even the ‘honor’ of kissing my President’s ass, no longer deserves my attention.
Spot on! I don’t watch any of it unless there is something I really, really want to hear discussed. I simply cannot subject myself to corporate media, which I clearly know is not reporting to inform but to inflame, confuse and/or depress.
Jovie, are you on twitter? I hope so because we need you on twitter!
Theo does not want me on Twitter, to many exclamation points!!!!!!!!!
You know their is something to be said about having pet peeves and maybe even OCD!
Btw- I am at the Park with my Dog, construction putting in a Solar Heater for my Water.
Seeing how Theo wants to get all personal with me and all!
LOL! But Jovie, twitter is a place for exclamation points!
LOL! Levity is good, it relieves tension.
The funny thing about all of this, I was not even watching msnbainc, I was responding to what my Mother told me, over the Phone.
Thus, this whole discusion is moot.
But, Steve Benen answered my question.
Is this the correct email address for Chips…firstname.lastname@example.org? Thanks!
That’s the one I have..
I have that one as well.
Another day, more obstruction, the one thing #KOCHSTERS are consistent besides their greed, misogyny, & racism ….
@davidaxelrod Another day of consistent behavior from the #KOCHSTERS (GOP). Obstruct economic recovery to harm #PresObama per 20Jan2009 plot— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) June 08, 2012
@stefcutter Another day of consistent behavior from the #KOCHSTERS (GOP) – Obstruct economic recovery to harm #PresObama per 20Jan2009 plot.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) June 08, 2012
And many more recipients in my TL …
THE JACKALS FIND THEIR NEW SHINY OBJECT
The circus finds a new spectacle
By Steve Benen
As gaffes go, this strikes me extremely weak tea. The choice of words probably could have been slightly better, but really, to treat this as some kind of breakthrough moment in the campaign is pretty silly. Indeed, what Obama said, in context, is largely correct — compared to the public sector, the private sector really is doing fine.
This isn’t complicated. Corporate profits have soared, the stock market is up, and private sector job growth has fueled the recovery entirely on its own. In fact, private sector job growth last year was the second best year we’ve seen since the late 1990s, and 2012 is on track to be even stronger.
The public sector, meanwhile, continues to be a drag on the economy, laying off workers and cutting budgets. Comparing the two sectors, there’s nothing shocking about saying one is “fine” and the other isn’t.
Thank you Steve Benen… I needed to find out exactly what Robney said, so I could call back my Mither, instead I got mocked upthread!
I should be used to it!
Jovie: I read the comments. It didn’t sound like serious mocking. I thought they were just having fun with you.
This is from the previous thread. TOD. I really need your help with this.
June 8, 2012 at 1:15 pm
TOD! I just received a phone call from a friend who has invited me to join her business website for the express purpose of educating her clients about what they can do to help re-elect PBO.
It was amazing to me how much is not known out there- things we talk about everyday is just not known!
My friend’s first two questions were about Wisconsin and the super-PAC money. Does Wisconsin spell doom for the November election, and how can we keep people from getting so discouraged about the influx of money that they just give up?
Frankly her call made my day! No matter how shaken she is, she is ready to reach out to her community and inform them.
This is what we need to do. We must become pro-active in every way possible. It’s the only way to fight off the doom and gloom.
Any help or suggestions for my first article will be appreciated.
Also, I am a minister, so I need some guidance about how much I can say without getting into legal problems. This website is not connected to my church, but I still need guidance.
I will be directing the ladies to this site. Thanks Chips and TOD for all you do.
We are going to win this thing. Full. Stop.
June 8, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Things we talk about everyday ARE just not known.
I posted a response for you in the previous post, Eve. My two cents.
You should also go to What is Working’s website. She has so many resources! That is always where I start.
I am in a little tiff (once again) with an AZ nutcase. I would like some help compiling a list of people or groups that have used violent rhetoric against another person. This is what I have:
Peter King, Michelle Bachmann,Allen West, Westboro Baptist Church,Joe Arpiao,Shawna Forte, Minuteman Militia, Russell pearce, JT Ready, Sarah Palin
There are so many…help me out here…the more the merrier
Never mind…I just compiled my own list…it boggles the mind
Reposting my reply to eveingeorgia from the previous thread.
INFORMATION IS POWER
I recently sent a note to my distribution list asking everyone to make use of the following resources. I hope this helps.
1 – GottaVote.org (Detailed information on voting requirements for each state.)
2 – Organizing for America (One stop shopping for everything you need to know about the campaign.)
3 – The Truth Team website (Debunking the lies of Mitt Romney and the PACs that support him.)
4 – White House website (Tons of good information here. Always checkout West Wing Week and the Saturday Address)
5 – The Obama Diary
6 – The Only Adult In The Room
7 – What Is Working
8 – Obama 50 Top Accomplishments (http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/rrnews.html?feed=393046&article=9880240)
Good list, though I prefer this list of PBO accomplishments. It has citations.
OT: Hi df, I sent Chipsticks an email regarding the Electronic Healthcare Record program. I asked Chipsticks to pass it on to you and Hachiko. I hope it doesn’t get lost in her spam email but just in case can you check with her? Thanks.
Oh…thanks, jojo:) I’ll check my email in a bit
Thanks DF. Milt Shook’s list of accomplishments with citations is excellent.
Rep McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) is not going to be much of a help for Willard with women. She knows a few talking points and is then horrible with any response.
I always thought she was a mute until a few weeks ago…..she used to just stand behind Boehner and Cantor…..never said one word in all the years I have been watching them.
Her verbal skills are not much above a mute. It is hilarious she is Willard’s point person for women after voting against all the bills to benefit women.
@Ladyhawke and @Desertflower
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your assistance. It means so much.
My pleasure eve. What are friends for?
That’s what we do here, love:) All for the cause
I have just read your response from the previous thread.nEverything you said is true, and I will follow your suggestions. Everything was very helpful and I appreciate your responses.
I am going to copy and paste your, Ladyhawke and Desertflower’ responses. As we say in the south, Hope y’all don’t mind.
WEEK IN REVIEW: The President’s Plan to Create Jobs Now, Debunking Romney’s Job Creation Fairytale & The Not So Blind Trust
Ben LaBolt @BenLaBolt
Week in Review: The President’s plan to create jobs now & debunking Romney’s job creation fairytale: http://OFA.BO/2iA4pF
PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS DOCUMENT FROM BEN LABOLT. IT IS CHOCK FULL (SIX PAGES) OF GOOD ‘NEED TO KNOW’ INFORMATION TO COUNTER THE MITT ROMNEY LIES.
COMPARED TO PUBLIC SECTOR – CORPORATE PROFITS ARE UP, PRIVATE SECTOR IS ADDING JOBS
If the jackals acted like real journalists instead of gossip columnists at a coffee katch (looking for dirt) we would all benefit. Instead of reporting the substance of President Obama’s press conference (Which is there are things that congress can be doing right now to help the economy) they go off on a stupid tangent about PBO saying that the private sector is doing fine COMPARED TO THE JOB LOSSES AT THE STATE LEVEL. Why is anyone shocked at that statement. IT’S THE PUBLIC SECTOR JOB LOSSES THAT IS SEVERELY IMPACTING THE RECOVERY. WTF. WE ARE GOING FULL SPEED DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE. THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
With all the air time needed to fill I think the “journalists” are afraid to challenge anyone on their talking points or they will not come back for more interviews. The MSM is pathetic.
Yes….. Meet the Presstitutes just has the lowest ratings in 20 years thanks to David Gregory. Intelligent people have tuned them all out.
I tried to have this discussion upthread!
Obama effect: African Americans in FL now support gay marriage 49/31, after previously opposing it 23/53: publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/f…— PublicPolicyPolling (@ppppolls) June 08, 2012
Poll Troll Knoll haz a sad!
Pres Obama does another fundraiser this afteroon: 20 supporters paying $40,000 for a chat with the pres. No press coverage. 9th f/r this wk.— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) June 08, 2012
What a whiner…..
Maybe POTUS will bring Knoller a 3 sour cherry pies after the fundraiser
Have some pie, Mark
When Knoller tweets info like this, why ndon’t we respond with useless info, something mundane, or steer him toward a link of something we want to talk about?
Collectively as a group, maybe then we can send a message.
mark knoller eats lunch at his desk today; gloppy sandwich and sugary drink again; nobody notices, nobody cares.
and no one would pay to see him do either
I like that answer…..goood
THE BAIN ADS ARE WORKING, HENCE THE FREAKOUT FROM ROMNEY AND THE MEDIA ABOUT “TONE”
When’s the last time you heard anyone in the mainstream media comment extensively on the fact that Mitt Romney lies in speeches, op-eds, town halls, and ads all the time. Has anyone in the media talked about the vicious “TONE” OF ROMNEY’S ADS?? They are full of nothing but lies and distortions just like Karl Roves Crossroads GPS. The double standard is just unbelievable. President Obama is handicapped with outlandish restrictions while Mitt Romney gets free reign to lie through his teeth. Selective outrage rules the day. Nothing about this resembles real journalism.
Bain Capital: the conventional wisdom may not be wise
This week’s Daily Kos/SEIU State of the Nation poll conducted by PPP also found a significant number of voters less likely to vote for Romney in light of his Bain Capital background.
As Matt Yglesias put it this morning, “One of the most shocking moments of media out-of-touchness that I’ve seen in my lifetime was the spasm of pundits acting as if Barack Obama’s criticisms of Mitt Romney’s business record were likely to prompt some kind of backlash from the public.”
If the Obama campaign’s internal polls show similar trends, expect Bain criticisms to continue, whether the establishment likes it or not.
Did you see over at DKos how that brooklybadboy accused the Obama Camp of backing off the Bain attacks?
What area of reality are these people living????
I have to say, MSNBC has been calling Romney out for straight up lies. Rachel/SteveBenen, Martin Bashir, Lawrence O’Donnell, Rev Al. Even the skizoids Ed Shultz & Tweety. Stephanie Miller/Jennifer Granholm on CURRENT. Randi Rhodes on Radio. With Still over 4-months to go, the tide is turning. Maybe even the MSM is getting tired of GOP lying to their faces and expecting not to be challenged. Could some kind of ‘professional pride’ finally be kicking in? Even Chris freaking Wallace challenged the romney-bots on their ‘facts’ and spin. Frustration is in the air, and it’s going to be a looooooooooong summer.
HOT OFF THE PRESS:
CHRONICLING MITT’S MENDACITY “VOLUME 21″ (There is something seriously wrong with this man.)
Chronicling Mitt’s Mendacity, Vol. XXI
Campaigning in St. Louis yesterday, Mitt Romney, reading from his teleprompter, told supporters he would never be a “president of doubt and deception.”
You could almost hear irony weeping. After all, as Kevin Drum explained, “I expect political candidates to bend the truth a fair amount…. But Romney’s willingness to flat-out lie is singular.”
Or as Rachel explained just last night, “Mr. Romney gets caught saying things that are factually wrong, and the thing that is different about him is that does not mind; he doesn’t fix it; he doesn’t even try to worm out of it. He doesn’t appear to feel any shame about it at all — and he’s happy to keep telling the lie once he knows it is a lie.”
Previous editions of Chronicling Mitt’s Mendacity: Vol. I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII,XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX
I thought only Obama uses a teleprompter.
Romney needs a damn teleprompter. They painted themselves into a corner with all the mocking of Obama’s teleprompter use.
TD, It is o.k. to use a teleprompter if you are a Republican. Even their St. Ronnie used it too; and we heard no complaints.
I’ve been keeping up with Steve’s Mitt Mendacity series. I have downloaded them all, and send them to people I think can appreciate the knowledge. The trend is growing. Once this starts sticking to Romney, it will take on a life of its own. He will not be able to overcome this basic truth about his lack of character and integrity. It is one of the things that strenghtens my hope. The public loves to wallow in shit. Once the GOP is finally called out by the shallow media, they will be like a dog with a bone. It will be the greatest show on earth.
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