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This and That

Charlottesville, August 29

Scout Tufankjian for Obama for America

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The Guardian: Paul Ryan’s speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths

In his barnstormer of a speech to the swooning crowd at the Republican national convention on Wednesday night, Paul Ryan laid a mound of misdeeds at President Obama’s door. To sustained applause from the floor, the vice-presidential candidate accused Obama of raiding Medicare, lying to auto workers and turning his back on the poor. But the speech (transcript here) was not always at pains to adhere to the historical record. At times, we are disappointed to report, Ryan baldly lied. Here’s a round-up of Ryan’s most audacious untruths:

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Steve Benen: This is an important setback for Republicans’ voter-suppression tactics:

A federal court on Thursday barred Texas from implementing a controversial voter identification law, saying the measure would likely curtail the ability of minorities to vote.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said the evidence showed the law’s impact would “fall most heavily on the poor and that a disproportionately high percentage of African-Americans and Hispanics in Texas live in poverty.”

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Mediaite: On Thursday, Patricia Carroll, the CNN camerawoman who had peanuts thrown at her and was called an “animal” at the Republican National Convention, commented on the incident for the first time. She wasn’t surprised by what happened.

“I hate that it happened, but I’m not surprised at all,” Carroll, 34, told Journal-isms. She later added, “This is Florida, and I’m from the Deep South…You come to places like this, you can count the black people on your hand. They see us doing things they don’t think I should do.”

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181 Responses to “This and That”


  1. 1 Proud Former White House Intern
    August 30, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Thanks Chips

  2. August 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Surely, he’s just trolling, right?

  3. 27 Pamela
    August 30, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Hey now!

    • 28 anniebella
      August 30, 2012 at 5:26 pm

      What is Weisenthal trying to say? I bet the DNC speakers won’t have any trouble telling the truth, unlike the liars in Tampa.

  4. 29 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 5:07 pm
  5. August 30, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Here’s some PBO-centric MSM coverage (welcome respite):

  6. 35 edwina3
    August 30, 2012 at 5:21 pm
  7. 36 proudmemberofglobalzero
    August 30, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Just got off work. Huge Republican Women support for PBO in Palm Beach County. Women cannot stand Romney and more so Ryan. They are paying attention. I had a great conversation with them today…Shocked I tell you, shocked!!

  8. 40 FiredUpInCA
    August 30, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Before Clint Eastwood did the Chrysler Super Bowl commercial, the libertarian actor criticized the Chrysler bailout.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0208/What-did-Clint-Eastwood-say-about-Chrysler-bailout

  9. 41 susanne
    August 30, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    just went to google news, typed paul ryan in the search box, and the list was this: 1. paul ryan, 2. paul ryan speech, 3. paul ryan lies.

    • August 30, 2012 at 5:39 pm

      Good news.

      Was puzzled by Lawrence’s reaction last night, so worried about Ryan. Can’t believe he doubts Biden (Biden!) will be able to rip Ryan to shreds.

      Biden is heartfelt and sometimes misspeaks while orating, but one-on-one with Ryan, he will have no problem disassembling Ryan’s lies. The tough part for Biden is to remember the vast number of lies R&R glibly state, day after day.

      • 43 nathkatun7
        August 30, 2012 at 9:08 pm

        LO is not always the most astute political observer. VP Biden is not only smart but he is very knowledgeable on vast array of subjects, both domestic and foreign. Moreover, Biden is also a genuine, no nonsense, down to earth person who has a compelling personal history. As far as I am concerned, Paul Ryan comes across as a very glib highly programmed person. I don’t know how will be able to reconcile his Ayn Randism with his Catholicism. After all, didn’t the church condemn Ryan’s budget because it unfairly targets the poor? I think it’s folly for LO to underestimate Joe Biden. I am sure Biden will have no hesitation calling out any of Ryan’s lies.

  10. August 30, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Booman is right and this is why I’m glad for all the twitter warriors and emailers and phone callers who let their voices be heard by the supposed MSM. So let’s keep it up guys!

    Containing the Alternative Universe
    by BooMan

    is a connoisseur of right-wing media, which may be why is more readily alarmed and prone to pessimism than I am. When it comes to wingnut media, I barely touch the stuff. The only time I watch Fox is when things have gone badly wrong for the GOP and I want to watch them suffer. The right-wing blogs are not in my daily mix, and I only seek them out when I’m really at a loss to find new content. The truth is, I already know what’s going on in those media spaces. Minds are being poisoned. People are being turned into worse people. Hate-flames are being tended. A despicable and dishonorable alternate universe is being erected.
    The details hardly matter.

    What matters is how people like Chris Cillizza respond to this alternative universe. Do they watch in detached fashion to evaluate the effectiveness of this poison? Or do they take a stand for truth and decency?

    Our Republic may be able to survive the existence of a permanent Mighty Right-Wing Wurlitzer of hate and fear, but not if it isn’t more than counteracted by people in the reality-based community.

    Paul Ryan gave a speech last night that came straight out of the alternative universe. How it is received by the actual universe is very important. How it is received by the denizens of the alternative universe is irrelevant. They’d say they loved it even if they hated it. They’d convince themselves they loved it even if they were disappointed…

    ultimately, what matters is whether or not people who don’t live in the alternative universe of right-wing media understand or do not understand that they were just fed a pack of shameless and brazen lies. Are they turned into suckers or are they repelled by dishonesty? Who do they trust to arbitrate the issue? And what are those trusted people saying?

    That’s why we have to police the corporate media. That’s why we have to call people like Chris Cillizza a loser.

  11. 45 susanne
    August 30, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    okay, now the humorists are jumping in to clarify the rethug idiocy.

    ‘ In our interactions with other people—particularly when we are asking those people to trust us with a big job—there’s an assumption of mutual truth-telling. And when we lie, it undermines that trust, which undermines the basic foundation of communication. Does that make sense? If you don’t understand any of these words, just look them up in the dictionary. (Make sure you look them up, because making up new definitions of words, such as “rape,” is a form of lying!) ‘

    http://jezebel.com/5939325/why-lying-is-bad-a-primer-for-confused-republicans

  12. 46 4morefor44
    August 30, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    yea, that dnc speaker list is low caliber alright, it just includes the frickin PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. one of the most popular figures of the entire world and of all time.

    • 47 anniebella
      August 30, 2012 at 6:08 pm

      We have war heroes also. Governors who are doing a great job. And a First Lady who is alot better that that Queen Ann.

    • 48 sherijr
      August 30, 2012 at 7:31 pm

      Yep we sure do, we have Barack Obama, and frankly no one else comes close. However, I am excited by the list… O’Malley, Warren, and many others, including our FLOTUS. No hate, just facts.

  13. August 30, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    PBO pics from August 18, Rochester NH:

  14. 50 vcprezofan2
    August 30, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Just today’s reminder that Sensata workers (Freeport, IL) are waiting for Romney/Ryan to at least acknowledge them..

  15. 51 susanne
    August 30, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    more jokes about the lies. seems to me the growing consensus is that the rethugs are ridiculous:

    ‘ In his speech to the Republican National Convention last night, Vice-Presidential nominee Paul Ryan test-drove what the Romney-Ryan campaign says will be a major theme for the 2012 Republican campaign: “lying about everything.” ‘

    Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/08/ryan-launches-campaign-theme-of-lying-about-everything.html#ixzz254KHWXcF

  16. 52 edwina3
    August 30, 2012 at 5:53 pm
  17. 53 vcprezofan2
    August 30, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Giving credit where it’s been earned… Fair is fair. Hope some of you will be bipartisan enough to join me. Thanks

  18. 54 squarepeg
    August 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    “They see us doing things they don’t think I should do.” – Black CNN camerawoman

    yeah, like being President of the United States.

  19. 57 donna dem 4 obama
    August 30, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    I’m just sayin….

    See you all after the phone bank! Thanks for the donations today.

    • August 30, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      This is Paul Ryan’s district and he’s blaming Candidate Obama for not doing what he (Paul Ryan) could not do himself: stop this plant from closing. Like it’s Candidate Obama’s fault that SUV’s became less popular.

  20. 59 4morefor44
    August 30, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    omg!! i’ve seen others suggest this but now even i think it’s true. michael moore is specifically trying to undermine democrats on purpose. i just watched a clip of this idiot on huffpoop (apparently they have their own video show now?!?), and he says, “we’d better get used to saying president romney…” and “obama has not done what he said he was going to do…” and all the usual lies.

    the odd part is in the middle he’s lamenting the big money being able to buy the election, and the only way to combat that is grassroots mobilizing, and a few sentences later he says he phonebanked for obama in 2008 and hinted that’s he’s not going to for obama this year, being totally hypocritical in a matter of seconds. he’s completely nonsensical. and he’ll blame obama for his lack of action, not himself. i have most of his books, many autographed by him when i’d go see him speak, and i own almost all his movies and that nbc tv show on dvd, and i’m taking them to goodwill tomorrow…or maybe it makes more sense to throw them out so no one else gets fooled by this charlatan like i did. will think about it overnight. damn, i was so fooled by this guy. forward with president obama!!

    • 60 sherijr
      August 30, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      He’s been saying ignorant sh*t about POTUS SINCE 2008. He’s a fool.

      • 61 sherijr
        August 30, 2012 at 7:38 pm

        actually that should be 2009. He’s said too much stuff that makes him sound like nothing more than a bigot.. he expected to own President Obama, guessing that just didn’t work out to his satisfaction.

  21. 62 squarepeg
    August 30, 2012 at 6:11 pm
  22. 64 squarepeg
    August 30, 2012 at 6:11 pm
  23. 65 FoxfireTX
    August 30, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Chips and those who tweet, there is a GREAT photo here http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125994/-Paul-Ryan-A-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-fact-checks of the last vehicle off the Janesville assembly line dated 12/23/08. Pass it around!

    • 66 squarepeg
      August 30, 2012 at 6:18 pm

      Rev. Al just showed this pic on his show!!!!!!!!!

    • 67 cookemom
      August 30, 2012 at 6:30 pm

      This was just on Rev Al. Evidently, the deal is that after those folks said good-by, cleared their lockers, carried that sign, and marched out of the building, the company still had a few vehicles to make under contract with a vendor. They were not the cars that the unemployed workers had normally worked on. The company did keep a few people on to satisfy that contract. So technically, they were open beyond 2008, but pretty much on idle, for a specific purpose. Under Bush’s economy no way could it had stayed open and the owners had to fulfill a contract already in place. Ryan and his entire town of Janesville, considered the factory closed on the day of the picture. He has retroactively reopened it for a year..

  24. August 30, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    On night two of the Republican National Convention, Fox News Channel was once again the network more people went to to get their political fix. That said, every network was down substantially from the same night  in 2008, when Sarah Palin made her RNC debut.

    From 10-(just after) 11PM, when the broadcasters were live, FNC averaged 7.70 million total viewers, including 2.07 million in the key adults 25-54 demo. NBC was next with 4.15 million viewers, including 1.49 million adults 25-54, followed by ABC with 2.86 million viewers including 993,941 A25-54 and CBS with 2.56 million viewers, including 943,519 A25-54. MSNBC drew 1.44 million viewers during the hour, including 402,044 A25-54, while CNN brought in 1.34 million viewers, including 451,270 A25-54.

    Only FNC and ABC improved their 10-11PM viewership compared to day one of the RNC. Every other network was down. Every network was also down from 2008, with FNC down 1.5 viewers,  NBC down 3.5 million viewers, CNN down nearly five million viewers, ABC down three million viewers, CBS down two million viewers and MSNBC down about two million viewers. It is worth noting that night two of the RNC in 2008 saw a speech delivered by Palin, who at the time was still a relative unknown.

    All told, just over 20 million people were watching last night on the Nielsen-rated networks, compared to 37 million for night two of the RNC in 2008. Night one of the 2012 RNC was roughly on par with night one of the 2008 RNC ratings-wise, making the gap all the more dramatic.

    Update: Also worth noting that Hurricane Isaac knocked out power in around 500,000 homes in the southeast. It probably made an impact in the ratings, though not enough to explain the drop entirely.

    In primetime from 8-11 PM, the cable networks had continuous coverage (save for some Hurricane Isaac updates). FNC averaged 5.86 million total viewers and 1.42 million adults 25-54. MSNBC averaged 1.30 million viewers, including 366,743 adults 25-54, while CNN averaged 1.16 million viewers, including 341,758.

    Update: The business network numbers are in. Once again FBN was on top, averaging 190,000 total and 49,000 demo viewers from 10-11 PM In that same hour CNBC averaged 79,000 total and 25,000 demo viewers. FBN was also on from 8-10 PM, where it averaged 225,000 total and 62,000 demo viewers. Bloomberg TV was on from 9-11, but is not rated by Nielsen.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/246673-obama-sets-new-energy-efficiency-goal

  25. August 30, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    With comprehensive energy efficiency legislation cooling on the congressional back burner, President Obama issued an executive order Thursday to spur energy efficiency upgrades at manufacturing facilities.

    The administration said reaching the goals outlined in the order will reduce energy costs by $10 billion annually and attract between $40 billion and $80 billion in private investment.

    “Today, we are taking another step to strengthen American manufacturing by boosting energy efficiency for businesses across the nation,” Obama said Thursday in a statement. “This action will cut costs, increase efficiency, and help our businesses create strong, middle class jobs. We’ll continue to do everything we can to put more people back to work and build an economy that lasts.”

    The directive aims to boost combined heat and power capacity to 40 gigawatts by 2020, an increase of 50 percent compared with today. The order said agencies will craft best practices and work with states to encourage combined heat and power implementation, adding the technologies will help keep industrial facilities compliant with emissions regulations.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/246673-obama-sets-new-energy-efficiency-goal

  26. August 30, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Just in: Romney camp pushing back against claim that Ryan lied about closure of GM Plant. The facts ate clear, they said.

    Wwwwwwwhhhhhaaaaattttt?

  27. August 30, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Priebus says Matthews got ‘hysterical’ during heated argument
    Daniel Strauss
    08/30/12 05:13 PM ET
    The RNC head said “Hardball” host Chris Matthews was “just trying to make a scene for his brand.”…

    Wow! It’s getting deep.

    • 76 COS
      August 30, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      Remember, Priebus is still sore because Matthews ate him out on Morning Joke. He is crying foul.

      • 77 auntsis522
        August 30, 2012 at 7:24 pm

        Well that was a great ‘ass kicking’ that Chris put on him. I was thinking two days of soreness but three and counting. hahahaha

  28. August 30, 2012 at 6:36 pm
    • 79 nathkatun7
      August 30, 2012 at 11:14 pm

      That terrible socialist Obama! If he truly loved America as much as Romney and Ryan do he should have been able to retroactively stop the Janesville auto plant from closing once he became president. The fact that he was not yet President is not a good excuse. On the day he was elected on Nov. 4, 2008, he became responsible for creating all the problems in America. Look, even his fellow blacks Tavis Smiley and Dr. Cornel West know that he is responsible for poverty in the Black community. He should have fixed all these problems on day one of his presidency. For example: he could have kept the Janesville plant open by bailing out the auto industry provided he used private donations and not our tax dollars. It was indeed Obama’s failure to retroactively solve all the problems of his predecessors that necessitated the gathering of patriotic Republicans, led by Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and Newt Gingrich, on the day Obama took the oath of office, to oppose everything he did. That means that since Obama didn’t prevent the Janesville plant from closing on Dec.23, 2008, before he was president, If he tried to reopen it, using tax dollars, after January 20, 2009, the patriots led by Romney, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor would have resoundingly said NO! Just as Romney said “Let Detroit go bankrupt” the same patriot would have said: “Let Janesville remain closed” as long as Obama would be blamed for its closure. (Snark)

  29. 81 vitaminlover
    August 30, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Obama/Biden shall win this re-election.
    Willard/Paulie shall lose.

  30. August 30, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Happy Birthday, Bobfr!

  31. 86 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Why are we supposed to be so concerned with Republicans expanding their brand, or whatever they’re calling it on Rev. Al? (what the Repubs “need to do” to be more appealing to more people) I don’t care if the Repubs ever “expand their brand”. I don’t want their brand of crazy ideas ever coming close to running this govt. again for the foreseeable future.

    • 87 prettyfoot58
      August 30, 2012 at 6:55 pm

      THISSSSSSSSSSSSS!

    • 88 COS
      August 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm

      Exactly. Rev. Al has been asking weird questions like this, almost everyday this week.

    • August 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm
    • August 30, 2012 at 7:17 pm

      I think what Rev Al is saying is that as crazy as we know Ryan’s ideas are, just by virtue of him being on the ticket, and with the backing of Fox News which unfortunately more people watch than the other cable news shows, that basically Ryan’s idea will begin to become “mainstream” and in 2016 will become “normal”. In other words, there is no turning back from having Ryan’s lies being put out there in the universe with no pushback other than on liberal networks and pundits and reporters, most of which alot of people aren’t even watching or reading.

  32. 91 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 6:44 pm
  33. August 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    This is where the Democratic Convention will be-

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner_Cable_Arena

    And then here on Thursday night

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_America_Stadium

    Should be awesome.

  34. August 30, 2012 at 6:57 pm
  35. August 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Did any of you hear CM’s Let Me finish segment on the 5 o’clock show? We all feel the same about Chris. He’s up; he’s down; he spins all around. However, try to catch it at the end of the 7 o’cock show. It is GOOD!!!!!!!!

    • 110 COS
      August 30, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      I don’t think there willbe another Tweety show today.

      • August 30, 2012 at 7:29 pm

        Yes, you’re right. His topic was the whole racism thing. That’s the ONE thing that he cannot and will not tolerate….dog whistles, etc. He was as strong as I’ve every heard him. You may see if you can find it from his 5:00 show.

  36. August 30, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Wow. Reading a book on Mesopotamia, and came across this. It’s from a letter written by a wife to her absent merchant husband:

  37. 113 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Is Chuck Todd on the Romney campaign’s payroll? If not, he’s sure putting in a ton of effort for no reward.

  38. 115 Anna
    August 30, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    If it wasn’t so serious I would fall down laughing, the Repugs actions are of desparation boarding on hysteria. Vote, vote, vote, repeat to everyone, well at least those that are voting for our great PBO. I love my President, his lovely wife and children and Bo. They have given the USA class, repect and hope.

  39. August 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Robney Convention speech says he wishes that the President had Succeeded.
    Whatever!
    Are they going to do this insincere- it’s so sad- Crap?

  40. 117 desertflower
    August 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Well, if Eastwood is the “mystery speaker” here’s some Facts about Mr Eastwood and his politics….

    http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/08/30/776461/clint-eastwood-rnc/

  41. August 30, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    One of the local weather guys has a video series about next week’s weather:

    He’s the best one we have hear and has a better than 90% accuracy.

  42. 119 cookemom
    August 30, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    So Rory Calhoun of Wagon Train will be the surprise guest speaker tonight? Will they be eating cowpoke beans and branding elephants? This should really get the juices flowing, canes a waving, teeth a slippin’, walkers held high, a frenzy of blue hair and suspenders. Yee haw pardna and a doosie doh!!!

    • August 30, 2012 at 7:36 pm

      BWWAHAHAHAAAAA. Ah, thanks for the laugh. I needed it. Hope they don’t find out old Clint loves spaghetti westerns. Way too foreign for that crowd.

      I’m so topped out on this crapfest, I had to step away from the twitter machine because there was just too much idiocy in my timeline. So I did some retail therapy and bought 2 new sweaters, a pair of shoes and a scarf. LOLz. Deep breathingggggg……….

    • 121 COS
      August 30, 2012 at 7:43 pm

      Didn’t Eastwood use to play Rowdy on “Rawhide”?

    • 123 0388jojothecat
      August 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      They’ll have a halograms of Reagan, Rory Calhoun, Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra, with a live Clint Eastwood as the youngster on stage. It represents the direction the GOP is going….live but old GOP present with the ghost of GOP Past.

    • 124 veryslowwriter
      August 30, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      Well, Rory’s been dead for over a decade but he probably doesn’t look any worse than Clint does these days.

  43. 126 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Saw on twitter that Mankini and Helmet Hair will alternate sentences in “their’ speech tonight. Won’t that be so cute??? Ay.

  44. 129 lamh35
    August 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    No offense guys, but who younger than 40 (I’m 35) gives a rat’s behind about Clint Eastwood? I guess it may attract older white and male voters above 50 which I guess it the demo they are shooting for, but I don’t see nobody else giving a shitz. I know AA are over Clint Eastwood after the BS with Spike Lee. Personally, I couldn’t tell you with 1 hand the number of Clint Eastwood movie I even like.

    • 130 Tally
      August 30, 2012 at 7:29 pm

      I just think it’s HILARIOUS that Clint is their BFF now, when the TEAGOP were all hating on him for his Superbowl commercial because it sounded so Pro Obama.

    • 132 0388jojothecat
      August 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm

      I see Clint has a “new” movie coming out next month, it has something to do with baseball. He probably wants some exposure for his movie. Why are the Clint bashing? He did a good commercial about Detroit coming back and we all praised him although he never mentioned the President. Maybe this is to make amends to HIS party, after all he IS a Republican. Yeah, I know they bash our side and hate on Hollywood because they are mostly Democrats and Liberal, but they ARE Teapublicans…..we’re better than that.

      Plus he made some good movies with Morgan Freeman and we know how Morgan feels about PBO.

      • 133 dotster3
        August 30, 2012 at 7:55 pm

        Huh? Because he made movies with Morgan Freeman??? No. He only did the ad for selfish reasons, likely didn’t care 2 whits about the auto industry coming back. As he made clear shortly afterward, it had nothing to do with any kind of support for President Obama saving auto industry. And he’s only showing up because he’s another selfish, greedy Repub/Libertarian—-doesn’t want to pay taxes. Period. He only cares about his own financial interests, even tho he has multi millions, could care less about anyone else, willing to lend his star power, whatever it is, to do damage to the country.

      • 135 lamh35
        August 30, 2012 at 8:03 pm

        What? I don’t care what movies he makes. I am not bashing Clint Eastwwod, I just have never liked him one way or the other. I am 35 years old. The most current Eastwood movie I actually saw was “Clear and Present Danger” (that was him right) and maybe those Orangatan movies and that’s just cause I was a poor kid and we didn’t have cable so if it came on syndication we watched it.

        Sanaa Lathan currently works with Kelsey Grammer and you know how he feels about PBO. Hill Haper a friend and former classmate of PBO works with Gary Sinise on CSI:NY and we know Sinise is a raving Repub. Taraji Henson works with Jim Cavizal on Person of Interest and he is a pretty religious conservative along the lines of Mel Gibson and we know how he probably feels about PBO.

        All of those people I mentioned are Obama supporters who work under/with GOP/Conserv/RWNJ non-PBO supporters. Does that mean cuz they work with PBO supporters on pretty successful programs that we are supposed to “give ‘em a break”…hell no.

        come on now. I expressed my opinion of Clint Eastwood. Had nothing to do with his politics. I would feel the same way.

        • 136 cookemom
          August 30, 2012 at 8:10 pm

          I told my daughter (24) that he would be speaking as the surprise guest. She says, “who’s that?” I tried to explain the whole ‘make my day’ and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Just a blank stare. I just said, ‘never mind…you won’t know him’

  45. 137 desertflower
    August 30, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Someone should Tweet this!! http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/30/776711/bush-administration-gm-ryan/

    Look who APPROVED of the plant closing!!! Ryan wasn’t doing his job for his constituents and “forgot” to mention that!!

  46. 141 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 7:26 pm
  47. 144 xtine
    August 30, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Christie gave pep talk to delegates to up their enthusiasm for R-Liars Inc. Had to crack up watching it on MSNBC’s coverage of Convention of Racists & Bigots Inc.

  48. 146 prettyfoot58
    August 30, 2012 at 7:31 pm
  49. 148 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 7:32 pm
  50. August 30, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Eastwood is Starring in the Good, the Bad and the ugly, tonight only!

  51. August 30, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    THANK goodness this is the end of this crapfest because I don’t think I can take another day of the piles of monstrous BS and the way the MSM is fawning over all of it.

  52. 158 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 7:48 pm
  53. 160 FoxfireTX
    August 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    I recorded and watched the Ryan segment on all three major networks tonight. Ryan made the rounds.
    Diane Sawyer was utterly worthless, simpering over Ryan like he was the next coming. Scott Pelley pushed Ryan on some of the lies but even when confronted with a written document (Standard and Poors release)
    Ryan says it doesn’t mean what it says, he’s “talked to them” and knows what they mean and it’s not what they said in the release. NBC probably did the best job, Chuck Todd actually laid out some of the lies and the distortions. When pushed by Brian Williams Ryan simply ignores the truth and slithers around like the snake he is. I expect this is what we will see in the debates as well, just lie piled on top of lie piled on top of another lie. Ryan is pretty goood at it, I suspect Romney will be less so but I am not optimistic that the debates will really change anything. The truth and facts to them are simply a minor inconvenience.

    The sad part of all of this is that in the end, the country will end up more divided than ever. I didn’t think I could dislike the other side more than I did with the Palin lies in 2008 but this is worse. I truly cannot tolerate these people and I csn’t imagine how I’ll feel by the time we get to November.

  54. 162 LaDLove
    August 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Helmet Hair and the vicious Teddy Bear are speaking. When, on when, will the GOP let Reagen RIP?

  55. August 30, 2012 at 7:52 pm
    • 164 hopefruit2
      August 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm

      And he got all offended on Twitter when people called him out on the blatant dishonesty and stupidity of that “observation.”

  56. 165 0388jojothecat
    August 30, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Mankini and his zoombie wife Mrs helmet hair are on stage……turning it to HGTV house hunters.

  57. August 30, 2012 at 7:54 pm
  58. 167 prettyfoot58
    August 30, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    i have grown so wery of the lies and distortions…and as you see the GOP base is so anti PBO that they do not care if the folks on that stage are telling the thruth…

    as for those so called white middle class voters who believe that Romney will be better for them/i do not know what to say/

    i just know that Romney cannot win in November…

    Forward>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  59. 168 hopefruit2
    August 30, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Jonathan Capehart is easily impressed – especially when it comes to the GOP.

  60. August 30, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    photo/1

  61. 171 hopefruit2
    August 30, 2012 at 8:09 pm
  62. 174 lamh35
    August 30, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    So on twitter they are saying that Jeb’s whole brother defense was not in prepared remarks provided by campaign.

    Does that mean they weren’t approved!

    • 175 Nena20409
      August 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      I saw JEB, somewhere today where he said that he was going to defend his brother against pres Obama. I supposed he did. Blaming the president and he is not supposed to say how bad it was when he came in? John Ellis Bush, aka, JEB, is out his mind.

  63. August 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    I LOVE to see these HUGE crowds of enthusiastic, emotional Obama supporters! I know we are out there and we are in the millions! Everyone please get out the vote….that is ALL that will count this time. They WILL outspend us….Let us send a STRONG message that our vote is not for sale! Re-elect President Obama!

  64. 179 cookemom
    August 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Last night it was hands, tonight it’s all about milk. 2%, low-fat, whole, and fresh from the cow milk.

    PS: How did I know there’d be an AA male student paraded on the stage when talking about education. Nothing like a safe AA that you don’t have to be afraid of. This one is clean cut and you won’t find him in a hoodie. OK cookemom rant off.

  65. 180 BigDaddyRich
    August 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Listening to Jeb Bush talk about offering parents “choice” when it comes to where to send their kids to school, it just dawned on me: conservatives always talk about making public institutions and programs “compete” with the private sector, i.e. public vs. private schools, bringing private insurers into the traditional Medicare program to offer Medicare benefits, etc., but get up in arms when it comes to government competing with the private sector, i.e. Medicare for All or “the public option.”

  66. 181 BigDaddyRich
    August 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Listening to Jeb Bush talk about offering parents “choice” when it comes to where to send their kids to school, it just dawned on me: conservatives always talk about holding public institutions and programs “accountable” and introducing “competition” with the private sector, i.e. public vs. private schools, bringing private insurers into the traditional Medicare program to offer Medicare benefits, etc., but get up in arms when it comes to government competing with the private sector, i.e. Medicare for All or “the public option.”


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