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The Choice

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9:10 ET: President Obama delivers remarks at the Cashman Center, Las Vegas

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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton looks on as President Barack Obama hugs a State Department employee at the State Department where the President went to meet with staff after the killing of US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three staff members at the US Consulate building in Benghazi, Libya.

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111 Responses to “The Choice”


  1. 7 Elle in MI
    September 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Love our president! May no weapon formed against him prosper.

  2. 9 vcprezofan2
    September 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Hi Tally! Hi TODobots! :lol:

  3. 13 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Romney’s ‘Apology Tour’ Attack Line Crashes on the Shoals of Reality

    By Jonathan Chait

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    Pretty much everybody in politics, Republicans included, is shaking his or her head over Mitt Romney’s ham-handed attack on the Obama administration and equally clumsy follow-up today. But Romney’s strategy here was a perfectly straightforward application of the foreign-policy principles that have guided his campaign from the outset.
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    The miscalculation at work here is that Romney believed his “Apology Tour” method would neatly fit the events at hand — take an event that sort of vaguely resembled an Obama apology to Muslims who don’t like us, twist it around, and call it a day. But Romney had grown accustomed to spinning fantasies cobbled together from months-old Obama speeches and nurtured into legend by extensive repetition and exaggeration in the conservative subculture. What he failed to realize from the outset was that the embassy attack was an immediate, high-profile event that he could not hope to rewrite so brazenly. Forced to confront the yawning chasm between reality and the fantasy he had wallowed in so long, Romney was exposed and, justifiably, discredited.

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    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/mitts-apology-tour-line-crashes-against-reality.html

  4. 16 Rita
    September 12, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    New tumblr – Smirking Mitt Walking Away From Stuff: http://smirkingmitt.tumblr.com/

  5. 22 Rita
    September 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    So sad: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/vilerat/ “Diplomat Killed in Libya Told Fellow Gamers: Hope I ‘Don’t Die Tonight’” – While Mitt Romney blathers on about apologies, these are real families who lost a part of themselves.

    • 23 jackiegrumbacher
      September 12, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      Rita, this is the part of reality that Romney’s brain can’t grasp–real people, real suffering, real grief. He not only made a huge foreign policy blunder today, he stepped all over the feelings of the victim’s families, revealing himself not just as a ridiculously unqualified candidate for president, but as a seriously flawed and incomplete human being.

    • 28 desertflower
      September 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

      My husband plays this game. Knows exactly who this man is….it is a small world. His family, and all the families are in our thoughts.

  6. 30 cookemom
    September 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    This is the same week four years ago that Lehman Bros went bonkers. It is when McNoodle announced he’d suspend his campaign to head off the crisis. It’s the the same week 4 years ago that then Senator Obama taught us that he could walk and chew gum at the same time as well as debate if anyone was up for it. That was also the week that Obama took the lead over McCrimeny and never looked back.

    There is some truth to history repeating itself….four years later to the week.

  7. 32 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    It’s All Downhill from Here

    By Chez Pazienza:

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    A month or so ago, I wrote a column here explaining how I honestly believe that Mitt Romney may be the worst candidate the GOP has nominated for president in my lifetime, if not much longer than that. Not only is he a terrible guy to nominate at this point in our nation’s history, after all we’ve been through lately — an unapologetic plutocrat for whom throwing huge sums of money at a problem is always the answer and the only thing he truly understands — but he’s also thoroughly incapable of relating to people in a way that comes off as anything more than a probe droid attempting to assimilate their behavior and culture in the interest of facilitating their inevitable enslavement at the hands of the overlords of his home planet.
    .
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    Bottom line: Things really aren’t going well for the Romney campaign right now. Again, that certainly doesn’t mean that he can’t win — after all, a new poll of Ohio Republicans shows that 15% of them believe Romney had more to do with the death of Osama bin Laden than President Obama — but it’s going to take a lot more than misdirection, spin and general horseshit for Romney and Ryan to truly connect with voters in a way that allows them to overtake Obama in the polls.

    Can they do it? Not if their political skills up until now are any indication.

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    http://thedailybanter.com/2012/09/its-all-downhill-from-here/

  8. 34 Rita
    September 12, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Hey TOD family – soooo excited! I’m going to see Valerie Jarrett this evening! She’s doing a quick visit in SF and I’m one of 200 people attending. Will be great to hear what she has to say!

  9. 39 donna dem 4 obama
    September 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    I approve this message….

    I am grateful that Barack Obama is President of the United States

    His calm, thoughtful and rational temperment during crisis after crisis gives me comfort that everything is gonna be alright.

    We as a Nation are blessed to have him serve this country and history will record him as one of the greatest persons to ever grace the office.

    When a political party rallies around the hate of this man and nothing else you know that that party is lost.

    I am a cautious person when it comes to predicting elections because we have a fickle electorate but Mitt Romney is just trying to lose at this point. I wish him success with that.

  10. 41 Anna
    September 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    I don’t think it is possible to have more respect for one person than I do for President Obama.

  11. 43 Linda
    September 12, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    OMG>>>OMG>>>>OMG>>>>>

    Fox News has a picture of Ambassador Stevens dead on their Web page……..

    I cannot believe it…….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 44 Rita
      September 12, 2012 at 4:04 pm

      Ambassador Stevens was a proud UC Berkeley/Hastings alum (woot!!). He has a great life story. I wish they would honor his life and work instead of cheapening and sensationalizing it.

    • 45 COS
      September 12, 2012 at 4:05 pm

      So disrespectful!!!

    • September 12, 2012 at 4:09 pm

      That is simply beyond belief, what the **** is wrong with these people?

    • 47 4morefor44
      September 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      my god. that photo first, and the entire page is filled with headlines making it seem like the election is already lost to president obama, and democrats are doomed. every. single. headline.

      there’s not one mention of mittbot or any of his troubles and insanity. i see no reason whatsoever why that organization deserves press credentials for any government department. what an f-ing joke. worse than ever.

  12. 48 lamh35
    September 12, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    I refuse to watch CNN, but any of our usual TOD stenographer tell me if Wolf Blitze got the sequence of events correct in regards to Romney’s stupidity. Earlier today, Wolf and CNN presented the situation as if the tweet by the Embassy was somehow wrong

  13. 49 57andfemale
    September 12, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Romney completely abdicated any sense that he is qualified in any meaningful way today.

    He couldn’t stand it. He couldn’t just be a citizen today and lead by decent example. It never occurred to him or any of his advisors to act with decency and compassion and even a passing glance at the enormity of what this job requires. He should have looked like he understood what “united” means in the United States of America and it doesn’t mean kowtowing to the dunderhead alpha male.

    Today was a day for citizenship. Romney failed.

    Every world leader, even Bibi, is afraid of a Romney presidency today. He showed himself to not only be completely incompetent and ill-equipped, but uninterested in the safety of America and its citizens.

    No one wants this giant asshole anywhere near the red button. He actually couldn’t care less if half the world was blown to smithereens if he calculated it would get him one more vote. Hell, it’s not just for votes — this giant djackass enjoys destruction. It’s all he knows and it’s all he values.

    • 50 57andfemale
      September 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm

      Sorry Pamela. I started to type another word and in deference to you, went with jackass but the “d” remains. Oh, well.

    • 57 cookemom
      September 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm

      Even his VP pick, Palin Ryan has distanced himself from Mittiful’s statements. I think the rats are leaving the ship. Except to see Willard steering toward the iceberg all by his lonesome. Word has it, even Rafalca is ready to saddle up.

      • 58 daisydem
        September 12, 2012 at 4:21 pm

        Rafalca will put Seamus on his back and the two of them ride off into the sunset together … away from Mitt and Ann!

      • 59 57andfemale
        September 12, 2012 at 4:36 pm

        Well not entirely. he still sneered about PBO’s ‘weakness’. What’s so laugh-out-loud funny about this is the fact that the left thinks PBO has been too militaristic. I, for one, trust this President. As Eichenwald made clear in his Vanity Fair article, this President does not factor in politics, he does what he believes needs to be done. I’m just practical enough to know that sometimes force is the only way, as long as a POTUS weighs its use carefully. I have absolute, full confidence in my President to make those agonizing decisions.

    • 60 vcprezofan2
      September 12, 2012 at 5:03 pm

      I cannot wait for Mitt to be removed from the national stage! When that happens, hopefully his wife will lead him quickly away from the spotlight and into oblivion (unlike the Alaska Barbie)

    • 61 nathkatun7
      September 12, 2012 at 5:41 pm

      “Today was a day for citizenship. Romney failed.”

      Thank you 57andfemale for speaking TRUTH!

  14. 62 Dakota
    September 12, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    At a time of national tragedy, we as a nation, always come together to mourn our loss and comfort the families. I can’t imagine what this country would come to if Romney were to become president. He’s a souless bastard…everytime I see him, I want to vomit.

  15. 63 donna dem 4 obama
    September 12, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Our Presidents response to Romney: Shoot first and aim later.

    “There’s a broader lesson to be learned here: Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president one of the things I’ve learned is you can’t do that,” Obama told CBS News on Wednesday.”It’s important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you’ve thought through the ramifications before you make them.”

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-on-romneys-libya-response-shoot-first-aim

    • 64 daisydem
      September 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm

      Whoa! From the grownup in charge!

    • 65 57andfemale
      September 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      And in this poisonous political climate, it is now unthinkable that a candidate would call the President to offer his support and perhaps learn the actual facts first hand. We have sunk so low.

      It really began with Newt Gingrich. The destruction of civilitiy and comraderie amongst legislators was demolished by him, and him alone. If he was allowed to speak with a sandwich board on a street corner, it would be too good for him.

      None of them hang their heads in shame. John McCain should have resigned his Senate seat after inflicting Palin on us and to this day he defends the choice.

      It defies description.

    • 67 PoliticalJunkessa
      September 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm

      Speak on it, MR. PRESIDENT.

  16. 69 57andfemale
    September 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Benen has a chart up on the downward trajectory of the uninsured under Obamacare.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_nv/more/section/archive?author=steve-benen

    The one group that’s still screwed: 45-64. Eff Joe Lieberman. We would have had Medicare for 50, 55 and over. His idea until he learned those mean progressives like it and they were nasty to him and cost him his primary and therefore he rescinded his support. jackass.

  17. 72 squarepeg
    September 12, 2012 at 4:16 pm
    • 73 cookemom
      September 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm

      I wonder what his Myers-Briggs is?

      • 74 4morefor44
        September 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm

        i’ve wondered about that too. i figured he must be extroverted to be able to meet so many people day in and day out. my introverted spouse can only handle dealing with lots of people for 5 hours or less, then needs some alone time to recharge. appears there’s some debate about it, but my guess is ENFJ (same as myself!). more discussion here with some different opinions:
        http://www.enfpforum.com/Home/tabid/55/aff/15/aft/601/afv/topic/Default.aspx

        • 75 cookemom
          September 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm

          this is so cool, thanks.

          • 76 cookemom
            September 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm

            I’m ISTJ and it’s a wonder that I can even type in a public forum LOL!

            • 77 4morefor44
              September 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

              too funny. we’re glad you’re able to tough it out and comment here! i’m pretty far into extravert range, so i never tire of hanging out with people all day, every day. in fact, i kind of need to be around others to be really productive and kind of shut down and go crazy if home alone after a few hours. my spouse doesn’t comprehend that at all…just the opposite, but luckily we’ve been able to understand this and give each what we need.

              • 78 cookemom
                September 12, 2012 at 5:24 pm

                Ha ha sounds like my house. I could be alone for days. My dream vacation is to a deserted island with a good book. Hubby and my #1 need their closest 500 friends around at all times. He could talk to a rock and get it to respond. #1 wouldn’t only have a conversation with the rock, but would invite it to come along to the next social event. My #2 is more like me, with the exception of being alone. I love these excerci

        • 79 4morefor44
          September 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm

          ha! did some more poking around and saw this:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENFJ#ENFJ_characteristics

          no wonder i “get” president obama so well!

      • 80 jacquelineoboomer
        September 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm

        You know it’s out there somewhere!

      • September 12, 2012 at 7:22 pm

        So fun all the different answers.

        My friends and I were just talking about this on the beach one evening. We decided his preferences were INTJ –

        I -we thought because he pauses to make sure he’s thought through his statements before speaking his thoughts. He prefers to be with his family rather than out socializing in DC and his favorite place is the balcony. I think he sincerely loves Americans and delights in meeting them, but I don’t think he gets his energy from the glad-handing. I think it’s from delivering and receiving such positive response to his uplifting and inspiring messages.

        N because he sees the big picture and the relationships between disparate things. Also he talks in big sweeping future-oriented visions rather than historic, concrete facts

        T and F are probably pretty equal (he definitely makes decisions based both on objective rules and precedent as well as on subjective reality. We leaned T because it many people think he is cold – which is often the case for T preference folks)

        J or P is tough – does he show the outside world his data gathering or decision making? I’d say his decisions and keeps his decision making process to himself. Also, he seems to be very comfortable making the decision when the time is right.

        So my complete guess is INTJ (which I am not!)

        • 82 cookemom
          September 12, 2012 at 7:39 pm

          I’m inclined to agree with you on the N, T and J. He seems to be very calculated in his decision and then proceeds without hesitancy. It was said of him, he will listen to you, he will respect you, but if you take that as weakness, he will crush you. That’s the T and J in him, to which the pirate, Bin Laden, and the drone targets can attest. The N is evident in his forward thinking, which I will go as far as to say goes to his becoming a community organizer. He knew how valuable this skill set would be in a run for political office. I don’t know about the I though. As an I myself, it would be unsettling to be in crowds the magnitude he seems to delight in. Walking into restaurants on pit stops along the way and engaging with complete strangers is not something an I would relish. His smile isn’t forced and an I just couldn’t be ‘on’ that way, that often, and seem to really enjoy it. I do enjoy these type conversations.

    • 83 57andfemale
      September 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

      Does anyone watch his campaign events?

  18. 84 cookemom
    September 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    “Fire, Ready, Aim!” – Willard Mittiot Robme

  19. 86 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Mr. Romney’s rhetoric on embassy attacks discredits his campaign

    Washington Post Editorial Board

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    J.CHRISTOPHER STEVENS, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, was a skilled and courageous diplomat who repeatedly placed himself at risk in order to support the cause of a democratic Libya. His death, along with those of three other Americans, during an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday is a tragedy that should prompt bipartisan support for renewed U.S. aid to Libyans who are struggling to stabilize the country. That it instead provoked a series of crude political attacks on President Obama by GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney is a discredit to his campaign.

    ————–

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-death-of-an-ambassador/2012/09/12/ed3b719e-fcfa-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html

  20. 87 xtine
    September 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    [Check that timeline & who's involved in promoting that trash]:

    How did an obscure film come to have international ramifications?

    A trailer of the film was first posted on YouTube by a user called “sam bacile” in July 2012, and has received about 11,000 views to date.

    The trailer began to get much more attention in September. On September 4, the same user posted a version dubbed in Arabic, which has garnered more than 70,000 views.

    Morris Sadek, a Coptic Christian born in Egypt but who lives in the US, told AP he had been promoting the film on his website. He also tweeted a link to the trailer on September 9.

    Sadek, the head of the National American Coptic Assembly, is known for his vehemently anti-Islam views, and told the Wall Street Journal that “the violence that it [the film] caused in Egypt is further evidence of how violent the religion and people are”.

    Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans in 2011 spurred riots across the Muslim world leading to several deaths, also reportedly promoted the film.

    The Arabic version of the trailer received heavy media coverage in Egypt last week, including by controversial TV host Sheikh Khaled Abdallah, who reported on the film on September 8.

    A clip of the show was posted to YouTube on September 9, where it has received almost 400,000 views so far.

    The Afghan government on Wednesday temporarily blocked YouTube in an effort to discourage people from watching the clip. YouTube also blocked the video in Egypt, agency reports said.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/09/201291214042970150.html

  21. 88 57andfemale
    September 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Jennifer Rubin is so deranged, I actually thought it was a fake twitter account a few days ago, a la Snark Knoller. Quelle surprise that she actually utters this bile and claims it under her own name.

  22. September 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    President Obama told CBS News that Mitt Romney’s criticism of the White House for its response to violence in Egypt and Libya shows he “a tendency to shoot first and aim later.”

    Said Obama: “And as president, one of the things I’ve learned is you can’t do that-it’s important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you’ve thought through the ramifications before you make them.”

    Obama declined to say whether Romney was irresponsible: “I’ll let the American people judge that.”

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/12/obama_responds_to_romney_statement.html

  23. 98 Anna
    September 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Those that funded and maded this film should be considered terroists and treated as such.

  24. 99 xtine
    September 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    [Kevin Drum]:

    What we have here is a meme that was born in the fever swamps of the conservative blogosphere — Obama apologized to attackers! — and which the Romney campaign could barely restrain itself from mimicking even while the entire episode was still unfolding. They didn’t care whether it was true (it wasn’t), they didn’t care if it was appropriate, and they didn’t care what effect on actual events it might have. They just jumped at a chance to pretend that Obama had disgraced the country yet again. In Romneyland, everything Obama does is automatically a disgrace, no matter how you have to mangle his words to get there.

    But this time they’ve seriously misjudged things. This was not the time or place for an insta-reaction that was so plainly political, so obviously twisted, so transparently opportunistic, and so obnoxiously over the top. But they just don’t know any other way of running a campaign. This is who they are.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/mitt-romney-guy-who-doesnt-know-when-quite

  25. 100 Rita
    September 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    “There’s a broader lesson to be learned here,” said President Obama. “And I think — you know, Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-fires-back-at-romney-says-he-has-a-tendency-to-shoot-first-and-aim-later/

  26. 101 cookemom
    September 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Just in. PBO asked about Robme’s attacks on him. PBO says, “Robme has a tendency to shoot first and aim later. As president I’ve learned that you can’t do that. You have to sort through the facts.” When asked if he would condemn Mitt, PBO answered, “I’ll lelave that to the American people”

    On a side note. Eric Dyson on Bashir’s program commenting on Mitt saying that PBO leads from behind; “Mitt is leading from the wingnut’s behind!”.

  27. 102 xtine
    September 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    [Cleek, a commenter @ M. Jones]:

    “….. his ambition exceeds his intelligence.”

  28. September 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    We have to get this a..hole Romney off the stage. I have never seen this level of incompetence and idiocy…and he is running for the highest
    Job in the nation!!?
    This is a mentally challenged turd, with a smirk. Smdh.

  29. 105 57andfemale
    September 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Well, Charlie Pierce is a Class A Jerk today. I admit to swooning over great writing, and he’s a great writer. But I can’t get past the emoprog bullshit today. Not today. Please.

  30. 106 lisalovesobama
    September 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    I swear I literally wondered about this earlier today. In fact, as soon as I heard about what Willard did, I wondered and I’m so fucking thankful it’s not happening.

    “Mitt Romney is not being briefed on national security, according to his camapign. Per CBS, typically candidates receive regular intelligence briefings after accepting their party’s nomination.”

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-not-receiving-national-security-briefings

    —–this needs more sources and it needs to be clarified, but THANK YOU JESUS IF IT’S TRUE. I do not want that FREAK!!!!! to have any information on our National Security. when I found out that the nominee of the other party was briefed on this months ago, i said a prayer and moaned “NO.”

  31. September 12, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    “BE a professional who possesses good character traits. Examples: Honesty, competence, candor, commitment, integrity, courage, straightforwardness, imagination.” I found this description of leadership in old Human Resources documents I was reviewing today in cleaning out my desk…absolutely NONE of these can be said of Mitt Romney and ALL are character traits of PBO.

    • 108 0388jojothecat
      September 12, 2012 at 5:41 pm

      These traits are no longer valued by most corporations and government agencies. That is why President Obama’s character traits are foreign to too many Americans and not appreciated by ALL Americans. We are being told by the MSM that being “smart” is not good because we would be smarter (and we are smarter) than all the newstainers that what to control how we think and feel.

  32. September 12, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Oh look, Caucasian, Hispanic and Black People, all look Happy.
    What a difference in Rally venues, fir each Campaign!

  33. September 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm
  34. September 12, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    utaustinliberal here’s your reminder about tonight’s volunteer call with PBO and notice of the time change. Just in from a long day of work. Trying to catch up. Hillary’s statement was heartbreaking and uplifting!

    We’ve had to reschedule this call for 8:20 p.m. Eastern Time. I apologize for the inconvenience, and I hope you can still make it.

    To join, simply click here at 8:20 p.m. Eastern Time tonight:

    http://my.barackobama.com/Video-Conference-for-Volunteer-Leaders

    You and the President will be joined on the call by volunteers from across the country who are leading this campaign in their hometowns. I can’t think of a better way to dive in to the last few weeks of this election.


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