160 Responses to “Heads Up: The Elizabeth Warren v Scott Brown Debate”


  1. October 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Pro tip:

    • October 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm

      Well, LL, from all we’ve seen, they probably are stupid enough to try a stunt like that.

      If they do, President Obama can start with the fact that Mitt rooted for the draft and then hid in Paris during Nam … all the way to just how many times GWB was given clear NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE warnings prior to 9/1.

      And, then PBO can reflect on all the lies that were used to start an unnecessary war that he, PBO, has ended in a responsible manner and then reflect on GWB making jokes about WMD and on Mitt’s own words denigrating an all out effort to capture/kill OBL.

      But, beyond that, and this is stuff most Americans are totally unaware, if PBO uses such an attack on his leadership to begin being explicit about what he has been doing in Somalia and elsewhere in Africa to dismantle not just AQ but other terrorist organizations, he’ll destroy these fools.

      Moreover, to politicize the deaths of an Ambassador and three other fine Americans in such a grossly obvious manner will likely convert even a number of Republicans and independents who might have stayed home into Obama voters.

      Let us hope they are truly dumb enough to pull this stunt.

      #FORWARD

    • 6 theo67
      October 1, 2012 at 7:29 pm

      The comments are priceless!

    • 8 Kris
      October 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm

      Can some tech savvy person forward the article to the key players of the Obama campaign? They probably know about already, but it doesn’t hurt to send it anyway

    • 11 Lovepolitics2008
      October 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      I find it fascinating that someone would leak that. It looks like there is a republican who is so disgusted by the tactics of Romney and his “high-level” friends that he has decided to denounce them. Wow.

      From what I understand, there WAS intel but it didn’t come all together in time. I hope President Obama goes public with the details and cut the knees of those republicans who are plotting against him.

  2. 12 Proud Former White House Intern
    October 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Beat Brown Down

  3. 13 cookemom
    October 1, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    No fair Chips, I was still getting up from the naughty mat.

  4. October 1, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Good for Martin Bashir. And, anyone trying to escape with the ‘we won’t bad mouth Ann’ nonsense needs to be informed that it is admirable the warning Ms Romney provided and we are fools not to take it seriously.

    #PRESSON

  5. 16 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    That’s how David Gregory begins the debate..by using GOP or Scott Brown’s talking points about her Native American Ancestry.. SHEESH…

    • 17 nathkatun7
      October 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm

      To use President Carter’s favorite word, David Gregory is a “disgrace” to journalism. NBC needs to free David Gregory to do what he loves the most, which is being a propagandist for the Republican party.

  6. October 1, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Scott Brown is a fucking idiot!

  7. 20 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 7:16 pm
  8. 23 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    I’m watching Wayne Powell make his case powerfully in his debate with sneering twit Eric Cantor
    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Virginia-7th-District-House-Debate/10737434511-1/

  9. 25 yardarm756
    October 1, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Scott Brown is a low down DOG. I can’t listen to any more of his b.s.

    • 26 desertflower
      October 1, 2012 at 7:24 pm

      He’s nothing more than a bought and paid for Koch whore.

    • 29 yardarm756
      October 1, 2012 at 7:25 pm

      The moderator, Dip-shit Gregory is not worth shit either!

    • October 1, 2012 at 7:26 pm

      I’m tempted to turn off too Yardarm, it’s actually painful listening to that two-faced piece of crap.

      • 31 yardarm756
        October 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm

        And the other b.s. with Cantor ain’t much better. I got 3 screens going and I’m screaming at all of them as I look at the lemming sitting there lapping that shit up. Ugghh!

        • 32 HZ
          October 1, 2012 at 8:35 pm

          Yardarm756, I was doing the same. One tv on in one room and another in another, and I was trying to hold myself together, but the pressure is just high as a kite.

          These are some ugly people. I can’t stand to look at Gregory or Brown. However, Elizabeth Warren is going to be our next Senator from MA. Elizabeth Warren is a fighter and she is cool and calm. I really think that Sen. Brown is rude and very disrespectful.HZ

      • 34 Dudette
        October 1, 2012 at 7:37 pm

        Warren’s pivoting to Brown’s votes. She’s holding her own very nicely!

        • 35 Ladyhawke
          October 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm

          I was really glad she pointed out that Scott Brown had signed the Grover Norquist no tax pledge. The people of MA should be outraged by that alone. How can you take an oath to the Constitution and then turn around and take a no tax pledge to some guy outside of the government who was never even elected? How do you have dual allegiances?? Maybe Scott Brown can explain that little tidbit to the audience.

      • 37 Pamela
        October 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm

        This is just what I mean. It’s as if the madness that grips some of these people is contagious, and we are dinged by it. They take themselves very seriously, and that is the scariest thing of all.

  10. 38 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Yay PROFESSOR Warren! Kick his ass!

    • 39 Dudette
      October 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm

      Senator Brown voted in lockstep with every other Republicans voted no on the jobs bill, after jobs bill, after jobs bill! Voted against unemployment extensions 16 times. Senator Brown has made it clear where he stands.

  11. October 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm
  12. October 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    30 seconds of his desperation was enough.

  13. 43 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm
  14. October 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    I moved to the Powell debate too. Gregory is a piece of s–t.

  15. October 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm
  16. 47 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    When so many reasonable people call you that name in a short space of time – it’s probably true.

  17. 49 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Coming up at 8ET Nebraska Senate Debata on CSPAN
    http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Nebraska-Senate-Debate/10737434512/

    Bob Kerrey (D) vs. Deb Fischer (R)

  18. 50 dotster3
    October 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Every time I check the Warren/Brown debate, Gregory is interrupting the point Warren is trying to make.

  19. October 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Ross Perot, get off my ****ing screen.

  20. 57 Ladyhawke
    October 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Wow, Scott Brown makes my skin crawl. He is pompous and arrogant. All he’s doing is filibustering which he has good practice doing in the senate. I am glad that Elizabeth Warrent is hammering him on his votes. What a phony. Scott Brown is the fair haired boy of Wall Street and everybody knows it. He has voted exactly as Mitch McConnell demanded except on the few occasions where was released to vote on some vulnerable issue.

  21. 60 ChristiMTL
    October 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    She was just about to make an important point and Gregory cut her off!….arhhhhh

  22. October 1, 2012 at 7:41 pm
  23. 62 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Paraphrase:

    Powell to Cantor: During budget standoff with the President, you voted if the govt were to shutdown that Congress should continue to receive their pay, but then you voted to not pay active duty servicemembers. How could you in good conscience vote to continue your own pay while voting to withhold pay from the men and women serving our country overseas and in harms way?

    Cantor’s response: Wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa… (word salad)

  24. 63 cookemom
    October 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    OK the Dem guy debating Cantor for Va House seat needs a Valium. He has a great message, but his emotions are getting the best of him. Cantor stands there with a silly grin on his face, which allows him to seem above it all. Maybe it’s just nerves, but if he can calm down, slow down, and go less animated, he’d go much further, imo.

    • 64 hopefruit2
      October 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm

      Others on Twitter seem to have a different impression:

      • 65 cookemom
        October 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm

        Well, good then, cause I’m reading it as his being a bit hurried in his attempt to make his points. I hope I’m wrong and the folks who get to vote for him will do so.

    • 66 Dudette
      October 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      I like his passion. I think the Virginians in the audience appreciate it.

      • 67 cookemom
        October 1, 2012 at 8:01 pm

        I’m glad if that’s how it works for the Virginians. I’m just hoping he gets elected. I think Cantor must be feeling heat to even debate at this point in his political career and position in the House.

    • 71 vcprezofan2
      October 1, 2012 at 7:59 pm

      {{CM}} TY for mentioning the other thread in your last response to me. I was meandering my way down the thread in my own little world totally and completely oblivious to what was happening around me. Back in a bit, because the call just came in to go meet offspring at bust station. Hold the fort.

    • 72 yardarm756
      October 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      If I’d have had my gun I’d have shot the tv.

  25. 73 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 7:48 pm
  26. October 1, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Charles Pierce’s tweets on the debate are a hoot:

    https://twitter.com/ESQPolitics

  27. 75 lisalovesobama
    October 1, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Gregory is such a bullshitter. Won’t let Warren respond to Brown’s bullshit. He’s such an asshole.
    Ps- I think he’s stacked the audience. Brown brings up his national guard bullshit. :roll:

    • 76 cookemom
      October 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm

      Gregory is making the debate about him, rather than the candidates. He’s inserting himself into the debate. Score many points for Warren on her response to favorite Supreme Court Justice that Brown completely blew. Give her kudos for saying she didn’t know why Mass hasn’t had a female in Congress. Brown blew it with his Scallia answer. Even his own people in the audience cousln’t go along with him on that one. He tried to back off of it by adding Sotamayor, but too late.

  28. 77 jacquelineoboomer
    October 1, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Twitter’s on fire about David Gregory. Maybe he and Karl Rove should just plan to join a dance troupe (of horrors) after Nov. 6, I’m thinkin’.

  29. 80 lisalovesobama
    October 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Brown is an asshole. So is Gregory. Warren is very honest.

  30. 81 jacquelineoboomer
    October 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm
  31. 89 lisalovesobama
    October 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    She’s o sweet and honest! Brown immediately went to shake Gregory’s hand, Warren went off stage. Gregory is a fucking hack.

  32. 90 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 7:59 pm
  33. October 1, 2012 at 8:00 pm
  34. 95 utaustinliberal
    October 1, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Gregory was an asshole like 98% of the time. Brown was a condescending jerk who couldn’t even say one nice thing about Warren without injecting some snide misogynistic crap. Warren held her own. I give her credit. She was smart, she wasn’t too cerebral as the GOP and numb nuts like to accuse her of being; instead she gave relatable answers and was straightforward. She did not come to play. She came to win and performed even better than the first debate.

    It was hilarious to watch Brown throw Romney under the bus and simultaneously virtually refer to Pres. Obama as the devil and then embrace him as a best friend. He also opposes the Dream Act and supports having more extreme rightwing justices like Scalia and Roberts on the court.

    Massachusetts needs to wake the fuck up and realize that they cannot vote for Pres. Obama while and give him a dysfunctional congress and expect progress to be accomplished.

    • 96 hopefruit2
      October 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      “Massachusetts needs to wake the fuck up and realize that they cannot vote for Pres. Obama while and give him a dysfunctional congress and expect progress to be accomplished.”

      AMEN.

      Couldn’t have said this any better!

  35. 97 anniebella
    October 1, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Dog gone it. I missed the Waarren-Brown debate. Yuke!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. 99 cookemom
    October 1, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    So what what office is Gregory running for and why doesn’t he get his own debate?

  37. 100 Vicki Green
    October 1, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    ? to EW: Why has there been no woman gov or Senator in Ma? EW: I don’t know. I’m trying to do something about that right here. BOOM!!! POW!!!

  38. 102 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Nebraska Senate debate has a panel of journalists (who’s credentials were listed) asking the questions. I like that.
    http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Nebraska-Senate-Debate/10737434512-1/

  39. 104 Rita
    October 1, 2012 at 8:07 pm
  40. 107 desertflower
    October 1, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Wham! Bam! PERFECT! http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/i-am-a-job-creator-a-manifesto-for-the-entitled/2012/09/28/756f2e90-07ee-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_story.html

    I am a job creator: A manifesto for the entitled

    A MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. 113 lisalovesobama
    October 1, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    So now Team Willard is going after PBO on national security? :roll: wonderful.

    • October 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm

      You know, I retain quite a bit of my Catholic upbringing, and putting yourself in another’s shoes, caring for those who have less than you, not gloating over someone else’s misfortunes. But damn don’t I love watching Mitt and the GOP flail about.

    • 115 anniebella
      October 1, 2012 at 8:18 pm

      All I have been hearing is what Mitt Romney is going to do during the debate. We shall see what he does. We shall see.

      • 116 theo67
        October 2, 2012 at 1:33 am

        I could actually see you (in my mind’s eye) rubbing your chin with one eyebrow raised, while I read your post. Lovely!

    • 117 anniebella
      October 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm

      Bring it on Mitt.

  42. 118 cookemom
    October 1, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Virginia Dem guy gets standing O for his closing remarks.

  43. 122 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Cool. Nebraska TV Studios in participation with libraries across the state produced video questions from voters to be posed during the debate. That’s really neat! I like how they’re running this debate.

  44. 123 desertflower
    October 1, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    h/t Maddow Blog…..good stuff . Fox lies in graphic form….

    http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/01/a-history-of-dishonest-fox-charts/190225

  45. 124 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I don’t get what is little Nate’s point here. In fact, Little Nate has no damn point.

  46. 130 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    CSPAN video of VA 7th Congressional District Debate between Wayne Powell (D) and Eric Cantor (R)
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Virginia7

  47. 131 anniebella
    October 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    I’m trying to decide if I am going to watch Wednesday night debate. Right now I am not sure if I will watch it.

    • 132 kathryn kivett
      October 1, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      I’m with you, Anniebella….I’m afraid I will throw something at my NEW tv when AH says ugly things about PBO…I probably will watch but it will be painful when the camera is not on our “boyfriend”..

      • 133 magapie
        October 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        OH WATCH!!! ENJOY IT!!! PBO NEVER loses his cool or stumbles! He’ll do GREAT and turn willard inside-out and YOU WILL CHEER!!!! willard is a professional con-man, gold medal level LIAR and all around slick, fake sack-O-fecal-matter. Don’t forget a lot of effed up people AND some decent but confused and scared people that support him, DON’T REALLY LIKE! Sure he’ll con some people and LIE HIS ASS OFF. OH YOU KNOW! SO WHAT? Will most Americans go for that? NOPE!

    • 134 Pamela
      October 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm

      {{{{{{anniebella}}}}}} There are a number of us; but I do so very much want to listen to PBO. He shines with a a greater Light than many who have walked this Earth.

    • 135 theo67
      October 2, 2012 at 1:36 am

      Tape it, and then sit on twitter and see the reactions. It’ll still be stressful, but at least you’ll be laughing (hopefully). Then, you can watch it later, while the pundits are doing their translations of what everyone has just watched for themselves.

  48. 136 hopefruit2
    October 1, 2012 at 8:30 pm
  49. October 1, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    President Obama will personally visit Keene, Calif., next week to announce the establishment of the César E. Chávez National Monument.

    The monument will include Nuestra Señora Reina de la Paz, or La Paz, which served as the national headquarters of the United Farm Workers as well as the home and workplace of Chávez and his family from the early 1970s until Chávez’ death in 1993, and includes his grave site, the White House said Monday.

    “César Chávez gave a voice to poor and disenfranchised workers everywhere,” Obama said in a statement. “La Paz was at the center of some of the most significant civil rights moments in our nation’s history, and by designating it a national monument, Chávez’ legacy will be preserved and shared to inspire generations to come.”

  50. 140 Dudette
    October 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Wayne Powell to sniveling punk Eric Cantor:

    • 141 donna dem 4 obama
      October 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      I watched that debate and Wayne Powell was so good. He put Cantor in his place and left him there! It was a thing of beauty.

      • 142 FoxfireTX
        October 1, 2012 at 8:42 pm

        He will be getting some funds from me. The two jerks I really want to see out of Congress are Cantor and Ryan and I’m willing to put some money into it.

        • 143 AnitaW
          October 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm

          I’ve given a lot to POTUS and plan to give a little to Warren, Powell, Baldwin, Murphy, Graves and Duckworth. The folks they are going against are the ones I want gone the most.

        • 144 nathkatun7
          October 1, 2012 at 10:37 pm

          FoxfireTX, I am with you 100%! Those two are the most dangerous because they are taken seriously by the establishment, but especially b y the media.

  51. 145 Bill R.
    October 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    • 146 carla4obama
      October 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm

      Yesterday on NBC’s Sunday talk show “Meet the Press” with host David Gregory, a misquote was perpetuated by its host. And after 24 hours, neither NBC nor David Gregory has said a word as people on Twitter and Facebook display their dissatisfaction at both the Network and the host, David Gregory.

  52. October 1, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    LAS VEGAS – President Obama convened the final debate camp of his political career here on Sunday, huddling with top advisers at a posh lakeside resort 20 miles east of the Strip for a three-day crash course on Republican rival Mitt Romney.

    Aides said a “debate prep team” had been pouring over hours of old videotape of Romney and other past Republican and Democratic candidates ahead of the meetings to clean strategic insights to pass on to Obama, who was last on a debate stage on Oct. 15, 2008. He has never sparred with Romney in person.

    The two men will meet face to face for the first time Wednesday night at the debut 2012 presidential debate in Denver.

    Obama is being coached by a group of veteran Democratic operatives and inner-circle White House advisers, aides said, including senior campaign adviser David Axelrod, pollster Joel Benenson, Democratic strategists Anita Dunn and Ron Klain, National Economic Council director Gene Sperling, and chief of staff Jack Lew.

    Former Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts is playing Romney in the mock debate sessions.

    http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17363651

    • 150 Lovepolitics2008
      October 1, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      I love the list of advisers. I think Gene Sperling and Jack Lew can help the President finalize his preparation on all the wonky details of budget, health care, taxes. Romney is going to try to look competent and throw a lot of numbers at the president; the president will be prepared I’m sure. I hope that americans realize that the supposed “competence” of Romney in economics is just a myth.

    • 151 theo67
      October 2, 2012 at 1:40 am

      I love how they have to describe the resort as “posh” or “luxurious”, etc. He is the President – where do they expect him to stay? In a tent? The fact is, when he went on vacation with his family, they stayed at a Holiday Inn (or something similar). He deserves to stay wherever he wants to stay.

  53. 153 lamh35
    October 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Congrats to MSNBC Anchor Thomas Roberts! He got married to his partner this weekend. I didn’t realize he used to work for CNN. Very handsome couple!

    Thomas Roberts Marries His Longtime Partner Patrick Abner
    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20635142,00.html

  54. October 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    President Obama will be in California next week, to dedicate Cesar Chavez’s home, workplace and gravesite as a National Monument.

    Since the days of train travel, I doubt if any President has been within miles of this location (Keene, CA, between Bakersfield and Tehachapi), so this will be a real treat for Kern County residents.

    As an aside, I cannot believe the hate that RWNJs reply to Mark Knoller’s tweets. No human is perfect, and any role model is flawed. But there is no one in the Latino community that truly was a role model. I’m saddened that Frank Church of Idaho hasn’t had a more lasting legacy, especially now that RWNJs have overtaken that state. (I’m pretty sure he had Native American heritage, but cannot confirm it now).

  55. 156 utaustinliberal
    October 1, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Team Romney is really desperate. They just sent out a mass press alert that John Elway just endorsed them so this means they are definitely going to win Colorado and this is a debate game changer. In their press alert they had to explain who John Elway is. “John Elway is a former pro-football player.” When you have to explain who your endorser is, not only is that pathetic but it also means that your endorser is a has been loser.

  56. 160 jacquelineoboomer
    October 1, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    So, David Gregory debated Elizabeth Warren tonight. What did Scott Brown do? Moderate?


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