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MSNBC’s Presidential Debate Live Blog, with Joy-Ann Reid and Richard Wolffe
Ah you just beat me by a hair lol congrats on first.
Could it be me?
in the first 10?
mittbot saying the same shit again and again.
A minimally competent debate moderator would ask Romney WHICH loopholes and deductions he'd close to pay for his plan. #debates— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 04, 2012
Romney lost the tax argument when he mentioned food stamps
Ewwww. Romney is just so unlikable in manner. Begging to have the last word. He’s still a bully. And offensive. Ugh.
yeah, I thought that was pretty school yard, “Well he gets to go first, I have to go last , WAH!! Except that he chose to go last AND he didn’t understand the debate structure because they were taking turns going first. I felt pretty sorry for Jim Lehrer – if he’s yelled over Romney to shut him up he would have been accused of partisanship. He looked like he wanted to throw a shoe at him.
Congrats Jackie! Why is Mitt allowed to take over this debate? He is over talking the moderator and PBO. Don’t let me have to reach thru the TV screen.
That’s what I’m asking myself. Mr. Moderator seems a wee bit too laid back vis-a-vis time.
I know that’s right
Romney: "My plan is not like anything that has ever been tried before…" < And that's the scary part! #Debate— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) October 04, 2012
Does anyone else feel a money bomb coming on? Links, please! I did rush home, I couldn’t not spend the 20th anniversary with these beautiful people who are giving so much of their lives to us all. Have lost count of how many times I have already told Myth to shut his ugly face….
Excellent point Pamela!
Everyone — click on the blue DONATE 2012 box in the right side menu and it’ll open a page with links to all the TOD fundraising buckets! Let’s drop in cheddah for my President!!!
he Fugged up. He told Lehrer – he would cut funding to PBS
But he likes Big Bird ~ I’m sure he does, watches Sesame Street every day….
He’s going to kill pbs
What an asshole
willard is an asshole.
Mitt Romney arguing with the moderator twice in 25 minutes shows the American people a testy side…— Jen Psaki (@jrpsaki) October 04, 2012
Aww, poor baby Mittens, he didn’t get much sleep, he’s a little cranky.
Loving the way PBO can barely conceal his LOATHING of this guy.
mittbot now preaching ‘moral’ values for the murkans ? devil quoting scriptures is an understatement.
He’s an asshole. An absolute asshole! Now he’s going to axe big bird.
Pres. Obama is getting under Romney’s skin. Mitt is turning red and getting angry and POTUS just keeps smiling.
Mitt really should have worn more makeup so you couldn’t see the red.
Keep it up Mitt! You’re showing everyone what asshole you are.
The only thing Mitt knows about that’s on PBS is Big Bird. Tells ya something.
So he tells the moderator he’ll have his job cut if he’s elected, ’cause he wouldn’t fund PBS because one might learn something there. Wonder what he’ll be telling the American people?
OK color me agravated, because I’m not feeling the way Jim Leher is letting Mitt go on and on, yet gives PBO two minute warning. The good news? PBO will still be President tomorrow, Mitt will still be a stooge.
I think he’s letting Mitt hang himself
And PBO just took another couple minutes for himself, much more graciously than Mitt took his extra bloviating time.
This is good – the President is into his stride – Romney looks constipated
PBO Explains in a calm manner how this all works. Thanks PBO! Twitter’s on fiyah!
Romney says that his plan to reduce the deficit is to cut funds for PBS even though he likes Big Bird.
Romney: “I like PBS. I like Big Bird. Jim, I like you too.” You can’t make this shit up.
Remember I am not watching … he SAID that? Really?
They’re the right height.
Romney is NOT saying what he will do!
Mr. Romney, a bit of advice: the look on your face is KILLING you. Cut it out… #Debate— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) October 04, 2012
ha – I saw that.
He looks like he’s in pain.
This is hard to watch. Mitt’s intent is to beat up PBO.
If the President had a ponytail, I’d tell him to run!
Great idea for PBO to mention how Romney declined a 10:1 ratio of cuts to revenue in the GOP debates but wants us to believe he endorsed Simpson-Bowles.
willard is flustered.
Oh damn, Myth has me yelling… I do not like to yell….
Gotta mention the 47%!
Myth has got a lotta nerve, knowing full well he shipped those jobs overseas…
47 keeps coming back to Myth ~ as in MA being 47th when he ran from the governor’s office….right before the people of MA wanted to string him up…
The President should have grabbed Simpson/Bowles.
Would you have supported it?
No, no, I have my own plan.
Mittens is talking fast and stuttereing a bit. Getting desparate.
Wish PBO would say that MItt signed Norquist pledge!!!
Jim is keeping the discussion on the differences – I like his moderation.
Good thing I have lots of cheesy puffs! :lol:
I’m sorry, but I don’t think the moderator is keeping a good enough hand on the rambling speaker(s).
Agree, they are running over him…. My feeling VC, Jim is being respectful of PBO, and so has to extend the same to the unbelievable pos Myth Robney….
This always happens. I don’t think the moderators can do much. Without a whip and a chair! However Willard is looking pretty petty and entitled. PBO looks polite.
Well, I could supply the whip, so I think would anyone else here, if they only ask.
Someone screwed up. Tweet Jim Messina! We got the whips!
John Kerry must have been a fantastic debate prep partner. Pres. Obama is keeping his cool and kicking ass and Romney is losing it on stage.
ID THE LOOPHOLES, ROBME
Mentioning Europe Willard?
Spain, so far. Who’s next? Maybe that country where he hung out during the Vietnam War?
corporate welfare ? bang.
“Time to end it” – the oil deficits
oops – the oil rebates
Mitt likes green energy now….
Mitt likes anything that will buy him a vote
Why is Lehrer letting Romney do as he wishes? This guy really thinks he is above the rules.
This one’s worth bringing here, methinks:
Mitt Romney likes: Big Bird, Jim Lehrer and COAL. Which one of these is not like the others? #DEBATE2012— Maggie Kao (@Magsalott) October 04, 2012
Is he actually defending tax welfare for oil companies ??
Yes, plus tax brakes for shipping jobs overseas, plus the states can look after their poor – like in all those red states maybe???
no wait, he said he didn’t know about any tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas! He denied the whole thing!
Myth gets uglier the harder he tries…. Hard to keep saying nuthin’ at all…. Uh oh, here it goes… He’s trying to save his ass…
Willard is PIZZZZED…
Mitt says HE never got a tax break for shipping jobs overseas:)
probably going to be firing his tax accountant tomorrow
As a governor… Uh, oh, duh.
Is Myth slobbering now?
What is this look on Mitt’s face. And what is the hell wrong with Jim. Mitten is talking and making his rules as he goes along. Mitt is shitting the people tonight.
there he goes solyndra, tesla.
OMG! Did he just say he’s been in business for 25 yrs and had no idea you could get a tax break for taking jobs overseas?
Can you believe him… he’s ridiculous.
States’s rights again???? I thought we fought that war over a hundred years ago.
now mittbot ‘cares for the poor’.
We must get rid of PBS, that will give us enough revenue to solve our Debt.
But, I like you!
What is Romney talking about? He’s talking nonsense! He seems flustered!
He’s rambling and reciting all the stuff he crammed over the weekend.
Why is Romney getting the last word? He bullied his way to the last word, “Because the President went first” Leher said he went first this time but you will next time. Somehow, Mitt ended up with the last word by bullying the moderator.
PBO can talk about his own personal family’s connection to Social Security, which helped his grandmother stay independent.
Outa the park. But with class. And respect. And decency. It’s no longer about what’s said — PBO has won on essence and heart and vision.
I finally had to hit the mute button on Willard’s lies. ugh!
I’ve done it a couple of times, but I’m trying to hear what he’s saying so I can hear how CUTTING the President is, in response. But it’s not easy.
He should also reference Ryan”s receiving social security from his dad who died when he was a young lad.
Hope he does! Ryan will never mention it, that’s for sure, but he’ll drag his mommy along with him to discuss Medicare. Unreal.
So I’ve decided that while Mitt is talking fast and loud, he’s not saying much? He’s trying too hard and looking really frantic. PBO on the other hand is steady and collected and actually saying something without rambling. I think folks prefer a steady hand at the helm.
This debate shows that Romney team still believes he can get elected without offering credible policy proposals. #debates— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 04, 2012
Or releasing his tax returns… Never shipped jobs overseas? Never took tax cuts, or even KNEW he could… Oh come on now…
He’s so fake.
Yup, no actual numbers so far from the so called the ‘numbers guy’
The President has learned from the GOP – turn the question into the question you want to answer.
Then says Mitt – no changes for any CURRENT retirees
Mitt has LOST the medicare argument BIG
Guys! I was left talking to myself on other thread, then had to catch up reading this one :smile: This thing is moving fast i…Mitt just claimed he and prez are not speaking of any changes. NOW the BIG lie the 716B cut he’s claiming is hurting seniors
716 billion question…..Paul Ryan! Pick up on line one!
BOOM! PBO heard me!
Jim is getting on my nervous now. POB is explaining things with facts, and Mitt is using his talking points that he has been using on his stump. He is talking shit. Mitt is lying all night.
716 billion dollar lie again!
Watching this on my phone and the battery is about to die but I see where this going. Mitt’s strategy of never giving details was so he could say ‘I’m not doing that and if you say I am then you’re misrepresenting me. The other strategy is to talk to the president condescendingly as if he’s teaching him the way the world works. I don’t have the patience for this rainbow and unicorn tax plan that mitt is unveiling today and I hope the American people don’t fall for this act.
It’s perfectly clear to me; he’s going to cut taxes on everyone, especially rich people, create jobs, pay off the debt, save the poor people, and triple the military budget. What part do you not understand, and besides, Solyndra!
Mittens is bringing up the 716 B in medicare sheeese
$716 billion "cut" to Medicare? Efficiencies, not a benefit cut.Pants on fire. Plus Ryan proposed the same savings in his plan.— Jennifer Granholm (@JenGranholm) October 04, 2012
WHO IS DOING THE TIMING? Eeek! This is frustrating to the MAX!
People on Twitter agree that the moderator has lost control of this debate.
Mitt just lied and said he wasn't proposing any changes to Medicare. His plan would make it insolvent sooner.— (@AdamSerwer) October 04, 2012
FACT: Multiple fact-checking groups called Romney’s attacks on Medicare ‘flat-out wrong’ and ‘false line of attack’.— TruthTeam2012 (@truthteam2012) October 04, 2012
Go there, PBO ask for the plan.
Romney needs to stfu and stop interupting. I tuned back in to see and hear the train wreck.
Not that it matters, but PBO is winning the Xbox Live poll….
Everything matters until Nov. 7 !!! :)
Own it my president! I have become fond of Obamacare!
The prez is fond of term Obamacare. :smile:
DK poster picked up…Romney almost makes a collosal mistake, initially saying he and Obama have the same plan on Medicare for people in the next decade. But he quickly realizes that would be a denial of his bogus $716 billion attack. So in the course of about 75 seconds he goes from saying he and Obama agree on Medicare … to Obama is the worst person in the world on Medicare.
Got whiplash? I do.
Mitt has LOST the medicare argument BIG way
Why is PBO not addressing the 716bn lie ?
He has refused twice to answer the voucher question.
Why the fuck isn’t Lehere pointing out that Paul Ryan cut $716B out of Medicare under his plan and turns Medicare into a voucher program.
PBO has explained it well – Mitt is now arguing with the moderator
Oh, goodie, Willard’s sweating. Big time. Think: NIXON. Then think: Maybe his makeup will drip onto his white shirt and clip-on tie.
PBO: “The main beneficiaries of repealing Obamacare will be the health insurance companies.”
Spank that ass, PBO, spank that ass.
Ah, yes. How sweet it is.
Mitt is given extra time every single response! !!!!!!
Christ. This moderator is absolutely lost. What a waste. Terrible. #debates— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 04, 2012
Yup, lehrer is letting himself browbeaten by mittbot.
Damn good live blog…just sayin
That special look on Mitt Romney's face? HE built that. #debates #MockTheVote— (@SheSheGo) October 04, 2012
mittbot not answering the question – do you support vouchercare ?
JIM! Tell him to STFU!
jim Lerher needs to make Romney stick to the rules.
Romney is getting the last word every time…why? Why is Leher letting him do that?
Obama killing Romney on Medicare. Best line: "If you're 54 or 55, pay attention." #debates— Chris Matthews (@hardball_chris) October 04, 2012
I loved that line, since Mittster was trying to pull the old current retiries are good- well…54/55 is no spring chicken and you are close to retirement!
I love how our President is so smooth!
still lacking specifics.
Of course! Are you surprised!
Dodd Frank….Mitt’s getting his panties in a wad
Myth is SO FUCKING RUDE!
While Our President is weighing in cool, like he is!
Romney had some good moments, but Obama was the clear winner of the Medicare exchange. Romney is Mr. Voucher now. #debates— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 04, 2012
I’d hate to be Jim Lehrer tomorrow. Twitter is gonna put a foot (feet) in his ass…
romney is argumentative.
Uh oh. Romney wants to take back PBO’s supposed “kiss” to the New York banks. Maybe those same banks will want to take back their campaign contributions to Romney, eh?
I just screamed- MR “regulations, you need regulations.” Now of course PBO’s regulations are excessive. And…he’s respnsible for small banks failing cause of Dodd-Frank. Thank you JL- he just cut the lying f@@ker off and said let’s have PBO respond
I couldn’t remember the timeline on Dodd-Frank, but I would have given $10K if PBO could have said “W signed that.” Too bad – maybe next time, and there will be a next time.
Now PBO is clearing the air on Romney’s “too much oversight of Wall Street” bullshyte.
Romney talking about Dodd Frank being a kiss to banking. He likes regulation? Wow What a switcheroo. Romney is now saying the exact opposite of the entire campaign. He is Mr Etch-a-sketch in one day.
Never mind a day, in 90 minutes! I guess this is what the campaign meant when they said they were going to reintroduce him. He LOVES regulation! He LOVES social security! He LOVES Big Bird! Meet Mitt version 10.6!
Let’s not – Fiiinally.
Romney is doing some serious lying and flip flopping.
Arrgh, shit. I just shot my tv. That robney is running over the Mod. Grow a pair Leherer.
Replace what part with what.
Leher finally showed some balls! Made Romney stfu. This guy is talking fast and furiuos, not ansereing or not being specific and trying to keep PBO from talking. What a Fucker and a desparate one.
He is pizzing me off majorly…
Love the way that PBO is talking straight to the camera at times.
Romney interrupts – only the far right will approve – he’s not winning votes.
Romney is flop sweating over the place.
#Romney is debating himself and Obama sits back and smiles. Lehrer having trouble moderating Romney v. Romney #debates— unclouded (@unclouded2) October 04, 2012
I love PBO’s smile.
so now it’s poor people’s fault because they bought a house ….never big banks
Myth is trying to prove his baffling head space and hoping no one notices..
OK I’m scraping #2 off the ceiling. She’s watching and is having conniption fits over this one. Ha, I think she’s concentrating on how long and loud Mitt’s talking, but not the substance of what he’s saying. She wants PBO to reach over and smack him. I’m going just relax grasshopper, he got this.
Asshole! Asshole! Asshole! I can’t stand this guy.
Poor president having to put up with listening to this lying pos!
Obamacare…let’s hear what Mittens says about the healthcare he championed
He’s fucking tripping all over himself….AND he’s rude!
I agree DF
Jim Lehrer keeps letting Romney get away with going over the time and making the rules about the debate as he goes along. GAAAH!
He wants to reverse Obama care because people can’t afford health care
F…k the cut from medicare – CAN SOMEONE DELETE THAT FROM HIS BRAIN
I’m at the point now where I feel Mr. Moderator might as well let Mitt vent all his spleen in this forum. /smh/
willard has never sat at a kitchen table.
fucking moderator is letting mittbot yak, yak, yak away.
Go Mr. President. Speak for the people. Put a face on it.
Get him sir!
I was wondering when Mitt was going to ease in Romneycare in a manner his red meat base would approve. He’s so far down in the polls now, his fanatic base will forgive him just about anything right about now.
New post everyone:
We like the President, we do not like that other guy.
Hey lehrer – what the fuck happened to the 'two minute' rule ? You're letting mittbot bully you. Grow a pair, jim.— (@amk4obama) October 04, 2012
BOOM! Identical model on MA…..working great!
I am not happy with how Bully Romney is running over Leher, Leher should not let him do that. Why is Romney getting the last word EVERY SINGLE TIME, and now he wants to tell The President his two minutes are up when Romney was butting in all the time and speaking out of turn!?!
This is excruciating. But PBO calm and clear.
WTF. Lehrer keeps interrupting POTUS and giving Romney unfiltered air time.
PBO finally cut Leher the republican off by stating he still had five seconds left before he interrupted him.
But done with a smile, he then took 15 secs but started by complimenting Romney.
I think Lehrer looked WAY more pissed at Romney. He couldn’t really yell “Shut UP!” at the guy.
ba ha ha LOVE IT! PBO talks about Obamacare being modeled after Romneycare
Okay, wine talkin’, funny how I just noticed Romney’s got his pasty white pink-cheeked look tonight. Wonder why?
Under Romney and his proposed cuts to PBS, Big Bird will be on the corner of Sesame Street selling the all the letters of the alphabet.
R- we didn’t cut medicare, of course we didn’t have medicare. WTH?
Romney is having a cow listening to Obama. His head is moving from side to side, his eyes are blinking and squinting, and his smile is closed tight lips while Obama tells about Obamacare.
Romney look like he was going to cry, but the media, the pundits didn’t see that, but they saw the President head down.
That’s twice with the food stamps.
The media is disgusting. I sent some hateful tweets to David Gregory, this man needs to get fired.
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