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OFA: Just before stepping on stage in Fairfax, Virginia, President Obama takes a minute to read a thank you letter from Lori, Ian’s mom

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You can see video of Michelle Obama’s Loudoun County speech here

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Mooooooooooorning everyone. I haven’t had a chance yet to look up newsie stuff, so just an image or two to start the day. Happy Wednesday ;-)


244 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 Roberta in MN
    October 10, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Good Morning Chips. 1st in line?

  2. 12 Proud Former White House Intern
    October 10, 2012 at 8:32 am

    TOD

  3. 13 collegekay
    October 10, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Good morning all. PBO was on the Tom Joyner Morning Show about 20 minutes ago.

    • 14 TrumpDog
      October 10, 2012 at 8:34 am

      Thanks.
      RT’ed.

    • October 10, 2012 at 8:49 am

      Thank you for listening, CK, and for giving us a summary. I especially like the last two tweets. If the president is saying he was too polite the last time, that means the gloves are off for the next one. And he’s right. Some people got complacent and we do have to stay focused.

      • 16 dotster3
        October 10, 2012 at 9:03 am

        Maybe “too polite” but I imagine it was more than a little disconcerting that a completely different Willard showed up at the debate with every stated view the complete opposite of what he had been saying for the last 6 years. I think both he and Biden will be ready to pounce on that confusing transformation and ask ‘who is the real Willard Romney?’ as it is impossible to know.

        • 17 edp4bho
          October 10, 2012 at 9:23 am

          I agree dotster, and listening to my AA talk radio program now, all I have heard is very, very, very disappointed in PBO’s debate performance. Whether we like it or not, these debates are more about “performance” than actual facts, folks. This is what our public expects- theater- and I am so sure that PBO is “disappointed” in this aspect of America, but is very attuned to how to relate to them in the future. It is sad, but the American public has no appreciation for history and nuance; they want/need to be entertained. Blame it on reality TV, social media, consumerism, etc.. I am so disappointed in the public, but I am assured of PBO’s abilities to beat the shit out of that frickin freak of a nominee.

          • 18 Lovepolitics2008
            October 10, 2012 at 9:34 am

            Yes it’s sad. One of the challenges President Obama has is he is a very mature and sophisticated leader, in a country where the political culture and the media culture are not mature nor sophisticated.

            • 19 daisydem
              October 10, 2012 at 10:29 am

              Very well said Lovepolitics2008 (though there is a dichotomy between your name “love politics” and what you are saying, lol) – we went 4 years ago from Britney Spears to Sarah Palin in the news, tabloids, even sometimes a lead story on CNN (what the heck – with regard to Britney Spears and I didn’t even know who she was and it was all I could hear). And now we have a mature, grownup leading this country and restoring our image across the world and the media wants to talk about everything but the real issues and how he is REALLY handling them. That is why (and I hate to admit it, but I still frequent an Alaskan blog) this latest with Bristol Palin on DWTS; she can’t dance, is getting low marks, so instead of being the show they are supposed to be and have her leave, she throws a tantrum, it is all over the news and voila .. she gets to remain. That is our media culture and our President is supposed to deal with very serious crises and with rebuilding this country with a media like this. It boggles my mind. I miss Cronkite; I miss being able to trust the “news.”

            • October 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

              This is so true. This is what has disappointed me more than anything – this last week since the debate (check the headlines a week ago compared to what the mood is today), since the campaign started and since President Obama was elected. People (i.e. the American electorate) don’t seem to take their civic responsibility seriously, yet they want to be seen as world leaders. I do blame reality television and the lack of critical thinking skills. Many seem to ignore that voting against – or not voting for – President Obama means that you are agreeing to make Mitt Romney, and his failed policies, the leader of this country. 2+2=4.

  4. 22 TrumpDog
    October 10, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Would have been here sooner but was wasting time at DK :roll:
    Good morning, all

  5. 23 Roberta in MN
    October 10, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Chips, I am in awe of all the pictures. Brought tears to the eyes. I hae been so busy, I will never catch up with all the posts. I was making soup this morning (6:30am)CST and was listening to the Black Eagle, he read on Op_ed and it was just awesome. I wished I would have written it down where he saw it and who wrote it. Some professor is all I know. It was guite good on the telling the white people to get over the hate for the black people and our President. Wished he would have him on or one of the TV shows. Did anyone else listen to Joe Madison this morning and hear him read the op-ed?

    • 24 edp4bho
      October 10, 2012 at 10:52 am

      Wish I could get his show, and the professor was right. Being non-white, I know the history of America, of course, but I have never understood the hatred by a people toward another people who have never done anything to them, but are the recipients of the ire of the first group instead. Would love to get into that psyche.

  6. 25 collegekay
    October 10, 2012 at 8:39 am

    If you missed him on TJMS this morning, here is the link to listen http://www.blackamericaweb.com/content/president-barack-obama-tjms

    • 26 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2012 at 8:41 am

      Thanks for posting!

    • 28 TrumpDog
      October 10, 2012 at 8:59 am

      College, you rock.

    • 29 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 8:59 am

      thanks Collegekay for posting the audio, just listened to our President, wished I could get the joiner show on Sirius, can’t in MN. Good interview But I sure wished the liberals and emoprogs would quit getting their panties in a twist. I guess I just saw a different debate than the media and a lot of other people. He didn’t lose.

      • 30 theo67
        October 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

        People kept saying that Romney would appear more presidential just by being on the stage with President Obama, but the reverse works as well. President Obama was on the stage with an absolutely amoral man, and he just couldn’t drag himself into that gutter. That’s what people are judging. I’m glad he didn’t drag himself to Romney’s level, and I’m also glad that he was outraged by the specimen he found on stage. It says a lot about who President Obama is as a person and as a president. It’s offensive that America saw fit to put Mitt Romney on a stage with President Obama, after subjecting President Obama to injustice after injustice from the right and the left.

  7. 31 Melanie
    October 10, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Yes POTUS kept it all the way real during the interview. 27 Days to Go!! #Forward!!

  8. 32 desertflower
    October 10, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Morning:) Thanks so much, Chips. I found myself just looking at all these wonderful pictures and just smiling. Sipping my coffee, and just smiling…..wonderful way to begin a new day….

  9. 35 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2012 at 8:42 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers and congratulations Roberta on # 1! :)

    • 36 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 8:44 am

      Thanks hopefruit2

    • 37 Pamela
      October 10, 2012 at 8:59 am

      Who else is lurking? Or are we trying to catch our collective breath after this fantabulous photo gallery, blessings by our Chipsticks! :)

      • 38 hopefruit2
        October 10, 2012 at 9:05 am

        There are always people lurking on this blog. Every now and then they pop out to say that they’re “coming out of lurking” etc.. :) :)

        • October 10, 2012 at 9:43 am

          I’m lurking, hopefruit. BTW, I saw your suggestion to LaurenMonica on the GOS that she change her diary title, which she did and then the diary rocketed up the rec list. Good job, hopefruit. And good morning TODers!

        • 40 Jey
          October 10, 2012 at 10:37 pm

          De-lurking (albeit a little late) to say “Thank you” for your acknowledgement :)

  10. 41 utaustinliberal
    October 10, 2012 at 8:46 am

    The pictures are fantastic.

    Keep this is mind for today.

    • 42 TrumpDog
      October 10, 2012 at 9:01 am

      They seriously have brass. Sadly, the media will run with it and not mention how GOP cut funding. I guess it’s up to us to tweet about it.
      This is all political theater
      RT’ed.

    • 44 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 9:12 am

      UT Isss just makes me ill looking at him. I really hope he gets elected ou of office this time.

    • 45 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 9:53 am

      But the cut was in the TBGOPer house. The senate didn’t. The spending stayed the same. Having said that, You are 1001% that we must also point out that the TBGOPers wanted a reduction in funding. Just adding to our conversation here at TOD.

  11. 46 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 8:48 am

    How Biden can win the vice presidential debate

    By Matt Miller, Wednesday, October 10, 8:02 AM

    ———————————

    “Here are three things you need to understand about my opponent and the congressional Republicans who share his views.

    “First, on taxes: The single highest priority of Mr. Ryan and Republicans in Congress has been to cut taxes on America’s top earners — even though we’ve been at war for a decade and have huge deficits to shrink. This is the first time in our history that America has cut taxes for top earners at a time of war. Mitt Romney and congressional Republicans think we should let other people’s children fight our wars, and let other people’s children pick up the tab for them later. The president and I believe this is wrong.

    “Second: Paul Ryan and the Republicans are NOT ‘fiscal conservatives.’ Fiscal conservatives pay for the government they want. Ryan’s budget, which his party endorsed, doesn’t balance the budget until the 2030s and adds $14 trillion to the national debt along the way. The fastest-growing program in Ryan’s budget is interest on the debt. What kind of ‘conservative’ has a 25-year plan to balance the budget? The president has a balanced approach to tame the deficit in the next decade while still making critical investments in education, research and infrastructure.

    “Finally, Ryan has said that programs like Social Security and Medicare have become ‘a hammock, which lulls able-bodied people into lives of complacency and dependency.’ I’m not saying this view makes him evil. But it’s deeply misguided.

    —————————————

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/matt-miller-how-biden-can-win-thursdays-vice-presidential-debate/2012/10/10/ef0d6ba0-12ce-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html

    • 47 jackiegrumbacher
      October 10, 2012 at 8:58 am

      LH, I have faith that Joe Biden will say what needs to be said. He’s a very smart man and no matter how mean and ugly the political streets, he’s walked them in his long years of service. He’s encountered the Paul Ryans of this world many times. In my opinion, he just has to show us what he is–a truly inspired, deeply loyal and utterly capable vice president.

    • 48 desertflower
      October 10, 2012 at 8:59 am

      YES! And he might want to add that PBO and this administration HAVE REDUCED THE DEBT BY BILLIONS!

  12. October 10, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Gotta go to work, but wanted to say that I saw a clip of FLOTUS on TV, ALL fired up! I see that the full clip is here. I’ll have to come back later and watch it. :)

  13. 50 criquet
    October 10, 2012 at 8:48 am

    This says it all about the RWNJs:

    GOTV.

    • 51 Linda
      October 10, 2012 at 8:58 am

      He could bite the head off a live baby and they would not care…….that is what is so disgusting about them for me…

      They really have no convictions other than control and power…

      • 52 jackiegrumbacher
        October 10, 2012 at 9:00 am

        Linda, that is what it’s always been and always will be about. Their so-called convictions are what they would put in place if they were in power. But the power itself is the be all and end all.

      • 53 Nena20409
        October 10, 2012 at 9:56 am

        Their Conviction is Win…. obtaining and Massing power. That is why since Nixon…..TBGOPers have NOT done anything measurable that moved USA FORWARD.

        Their Goal of Conviction is to dismantle Gov and to make the wealthy, wealthier.

    • 54 TrumpDog
      October 10, 2012 at 9:08 am

      Yep. That pretty much sums it up.
      But we still have to remind others. Remember to use the words “lack of conviction” when referencing his many flip flops.
      Romney’s lack of conviction.

    • 55 amk for obama
      October 10, 2012 at 9:09 am

    • 56 Lovepolitics2008
      October 10, 2012 at 9:41 am

      That’s why they often win elections. That’s why Romney is comfortable in switching positions all the time. He knows he won’t pay a price with his base. They’ll vote for him NO MATTER WHAT.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:49 am

      Let’s just lay it out there people and understand well people, THAT THE ONLY THING FIRING UP ‘THESE’ PEOPLE IS THAT OBAMA HAS TO GO..
      It doesn’t matter to any type of repug ( be it teaparty, be it old repug, young repug, old/young conservative),the schizoid mitt changing positions, lying, stealing, plundering, being disrespectful, mudslinging, whingeing, accusing. It is all about GETTING RID OF OBAMA.
      So now we know, time to overhaul the politeness, the constant expectations of people being unfair,….and give it to them full throttle, and that includes the msm, the pundits, the feigning of heart supporters, and especially the msnbc’s inciters!

      • 58 taiping1
        October 10, 2012 at 11:37 am

        Go to Google Images and put in the search term “completely wrong.” Someone gets it! LOL. It’s up to us to donate, volunteer, one-by-one

    • October 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

      These people have now lost all credibility on the topic of abortion. Their racism trumps everything. This tweet is very accurate in that it does say it all. They simply don’t care that Romney is vile…they are solely motivated by their hatred of the President. They could be running a sock puppet as long as it was a white male with money enough to compete.

  14. 60 utaustinliberal
    October 10, 2012 at 8:49 am

    FLOTUS is welcoming fall with some kick ass fashion sense. Love it.

  15. 63 sonjiaduncan
    October 10, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Good morning TOD, I miss not being able to come here. I hate moving almost finish unpacking and locating missing items.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:36 am

      Morning sonjia – I just did what you are doing this spring – hang in there. We will be here holding down the fort. See you soon online. Best of luck with your move.

  16. 65 Melissa
    October 10, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Prez Obama on the Tom Joyner morning show ” I got this”.

    True supporters always knew this. Always.
    The ones with little faith, ‘cuse my French, but fukk em.
    Abandon your captain and teammates over a little turbulence, pfff…no excuses.

  17. October 10, 2012 at 8:55 am

    What a beautiful way to start the day! Great happy pictures.

  18. October 10, 2012 at 9:01 am

    • 68 dotster3
      October 10, 2012 at 9:14 am

      It was another typical Romney moment yesterday when he told the Des Moines Register that he was A-Ok with choice, wouldn’t bother with it at all, after saying the complete opposite on many occasions, proven by that new fangled truth machine, utube. The feedback must have been fierce from the evangelical extremist base because a couple hours later his campaign had to again say, “Never mind.” Another case where he “didn’t way the words he means”, as he “explained” the 47% remark.

    • 70 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 9:27 am

      Thank you for the video Don, I was tearing up looking at all those wonderful children and how they just adore our President. My youngest sons does not allow his children to watch or listen to any of POTUS’s stuff. It is sad, tehy even tell me that can’t watch him on TV. One day they will grow up and not understand just what they missed. I pray for them all the time. The problem with that is they are our future and it makes me sad. But these children are happy and there is always hope. Thanks y ou again. Crying now.

    • 71 daisydem
      October 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

      So wonderful! Thanks for posting this today Don.

    • 72 veryslowwriter
      October 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      Last year, someone I know was telling a story about taking her kids to a Halloween parade in their town. Some of the parade participants were throwing candy to the kids and completely bypassed her children (she’s black). She said it wasn’t conscious racism, that her kids were just invisible to the white guy.
      One of the things I love most about our President is that he sees ALL the children.

  19. 73 amk for obama
    October 10, 2012 at 9:07 am

    GM folks.

    Nice to start the day with a hot cuppa or start the evening with flotus pics and a cold g&t. :)

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:08 am

      No milk for you then, if you’re slugging a G&T. Morning amk!!!!

      • 75 amk for obama
        October 10, 2012 at 9:13 am

        Oh, you didn’t know? I have invented (yes, invented, not discovered) a new cocktail called vc mix. Gin & milk. I have heard rave reviews about it.

        • October 10, 2012 at 9:14 am

          That sounds, em, lovely amk ….. excuse me, I have to run to the bathroom….

          • 77 amk for obama
            October 10, 2012 at 9:22 am

            Heh, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.

            (psst, the trick is no stirring and definitely no friggin’ shaking).

              • 79 amk for obama
                October 10, 2012 at 9:29 am

                You must have drunk some crappy irish libation.

                • October 10, 2012 at 9:30 am

                  Milk, Guinness and strawberry jam blended – yum.

                  • 81 amk for obama
                    October 10, 2012 at 9:34 am

                    A preacher was completing a temperance sermon: with great expression he said, “If I had all the beer in the world, I’d take it and throw it into the river.”

                    With even greater emphasis, he said, “And if I had all the wine in the world, I’d take it and throw it into the river.”

                    And then, finally, he said, “And if I had all the whiskey in the world, I’d take it and throw it into the river.” He sat down.

                    The choir leader then stood very cautiously and announced with a pleasant smile, “For our closing song, let us sing Hymn #365: ‘Shall We Gather At the River.'”

                    • 82 jacquelineoboomer
                      October 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

                      Great morning “joke” for us. Gotta run – gotta gather at the river!

                    • 83 daisydem
                      October 10, 2012 at 10:41 am

                      Now laughing so hard the tears from watching the video Don posted “with a child’s heart” above are still flowing, but now tears of laughter. See you guys at the river!

                    • 84 Pugeretto
                      October 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

                      Thank you for that “Shall We Gather At the River”….lighten things up here once in a while amk.

  20. 85 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 9:08 am

    The Morning Plum: Chill, Obama supporters, chill

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    By Greg Sargent

    This race began as a toss up. It is now a toss up. Barring some unforeseen event, it will remain a toss up until the end. Which it was always going to be from the start.

    Politico has a big story this morning documenting the widespread alarm among Obama supporters about the dramatic tightening in the polls we’re seeing right now. Dem strategist Jim Jordan captures the prevailing sentiments well:

    “That’s my party: Irrational overconfidence followed by irrational despair.”

    ————————————

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum-chill-obama-supporters-chill/2012/10/10/fa5e09a0-12c0-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_blog.html

    • 86 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 9:18 am

      Dems still haven’t grown that backbone. We are still in this race, so we Dems need to act like it and continuing fighting.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:22 am

      I confess I was one of those irrational Dems yesterday evening. When I saw a tie in Ohio, I freaked and watched regular TV and stayed off TOD and Twitter. I am better today.

      • 88 Margie James
        October 10, 2012 at 9:59 am

        I managed to stay calm, when saw the Headline in the MI paper showing how the President went from a 12 pt lead to a 3 pt lead in a poll taken here on Th,Fri, Sat, but just below the fold, there was a big article about how GM will be hiring 2k new workers, so I think its time for a new poll.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:38 am

      Slow and steady wins the race – hang in there TODers – we will do this.

  21. October 10, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Good morning, TODville. FORWARD!!

  22. 97 dotster3
    October 10, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Another baby whisperer photo! Fam members look on adoringly.
    Prize winning photos all over the place. Future photo books will fill a library.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:27 am

      I was hoping for a photo of PBO holding a newborn at the Cesar Chavez memorial dedication but I haven’t seen one. It was a beautiful moment.

  23. 99 desertflower
    October 10, 2012 at 9:28 am

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-hype-became-bigger-than-the-presidential-election-20121009

    How the Hype Became Bigger Than the Presidential Election
    Blame the media for making whole generations hate The Process

    What we Americans go through to pick a president is not only crazy and unnecessary but genuinely abusive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent in a craven, cynical effort to stir up hatred and anger on both sides. A decision that in reality takes one or two days of careful research to make is somehow stretched out into a process that involves two years of relentless, suffocating mind-warfare, an onslaught of toxic media messaging directed at liberals, conservatives and everyone in between that by Election Day makes every dinner conversation dangerous and literally divides families.

    Politicians are much to blame for this, but we in the media have to take responsibility for the damage we do to the American psyche in the name of election coverage. At this very moment, there are people all over the country who are stocking up on canned goods and ammo for the apocalypse they believe will come if Obama is re-elected. For the broadcast business to be successful, viewers need to be not merely interested in our political melodramas, they have to be in an absolute state about them – emotionally invested in the outcome and frightened not to watch what happens next. And any person who’s been subjected to 720 consecutive days of propaganda is not likely to take the news well if he gets the wrong result, whether it’s a victory for Obama or for Romney. By that point, the networks have spent two years finding new ways each day to convince him that the world is going to disintegrate into some commie or Hitlerian version of Mad Max, to keep him coming back and watching ads.

    Sometimes, Matt makes me nuts…but THIS time he’s right on!! Chips…this is a must read!

    • 100 amk for obama
      October 10, 2012 at 9:37 am

      In short, american fourth estate are really the fifth columnists.

    • 101 theo67
      October 10, 2012 at 11:28 am

      Except, only one side is trying to “stir up hatred and anger”. The Democratic side is trying to have an honest debate about ideological views/policies and stir up righteous indignation – if anything. You don’t hear Democrats saying that they don’t care if their candidate has completely violated their fundamental ideological principles, as long as the black guy goes. You just don’t hear that crap from the left! The media has allowed the lunatics to take over the asylum – they held the door open for them.

  24. October 10, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Did everyone here take advantage of the survey Jim Messina sent out asking for feedback about the campaign?

    • 103 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 9:41 am

      What is the schedule today? I am sure VP Biden is getting ready for that other liar P. Ryan. And POTUS, FLOTUS, do they have any events today? I loved the energy FLOTUS had yesterday in Virginia.

  25. 104 Eveingeorgia
    October 10, 2012 at 9:31 am

    So, it is true that Ed is telling people not to vote. Just saw this in the comments section of Liberal Librarian’s lovely, lovely article.

    How can we push back forcibly against ED? He’s the worse kind of snake.

    • 105 lisalovesobama
      October 10, 2012 at 9:45 am

      Why am I not surprised? How about not watching his show? Also, you can tweet him out. Is he serious? He would rather have Willard than PBO? Sometimes people show their asses and you’ve got to believe them when they do. Turn him off. I stopped watching all of them, even Rev Al. It’s nothing personal on Al’s part, I just refuse to be a pawn of the media. I’m over it. Turn it off.

      • 106 Linda
        October 10, 2012 at 9:51 am

        I am sick of seeing the same people on every freaking show……..no matter who they are.

        I love Joy Reid…but she is one every show too…..I just cannot stand it anymore

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:47 am

      He is in Florida telling people not to vote! And why us he and Rachel having townhalls in swing states?
      Robney secret weapon, Ed Shultz and Rachel Madcow!

      • 108 COS
        October 10, 2012 at 9:52 am

        This has to be a joke. I can’t believe Ed would do that again. Why is he doing that? What reason is he giving?

    • 109 Linda
      October 10, 2012 at 9:48 am

      He is a sleeper cell…..he does this right before every election. Remember how he trashed PBO for not going to Wisconsin for the recall ?

      Best to stop watching and let his ratings and rantings dwindle until he is gone….he is a lunatic..

    • 110 cluny
      October 10, 2012 at 9:52 am

      Link please. What is the evidence?

      • 111 Nena20409
        October 10, 2012 at 10:13 am

        Ed never said such thing this time. He said that people are disspirited and they are not inclined to vote. Then he gave a couple examples. Ed knows that if he ever tells people Not to vote like he did in 2010, he would not be credible any more…..whatever that is left of it. I have issues with Ed….still talking about the debate 6 days later is idiotic. But that is what his callers talk about. So he feeds on that. We need to stop it too. Move on.

        • 112 pugeretto
          October 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

          I hate bad rumors….thanks you Nena20409.

        • 113 Suzanne
          October 10, 2012 at 11:14 am

          Thank you SO MUCH, Nena! Rumors are distracting and divisive. Thank you for clearing that up.

        • 114 Eveingeorgia
          October 10, 2012 at 11:18 am

          Thanks, Nena. I stand corrected. It’s easy for me to get off track about Ed because of all the damage he did in 2010 as well as his over-the-top reaction to the debate.

          I don’t trust him still, but appreciate being set straight about this.

    • 115 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

      I went back and watched two days of ED and did not see or hear anything like that. I know 2010 he was a complete A**hole and telling people not to vote because they did n’t get the public option, but I really think he las learned his lesson on that point, but all the MSM went nuts on Wednesday night. So Chill out everyone. I only watch ED oince in awhile, bust he has not been on that bandwagon in Florida.

  26. 116 dotster3
    October 10, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Can’t believe I’m passing along a Halperin thought, but this one I agree with——the challenge of the Obama campaign dealing with a constantly changing, constantly lying Romney. Especially when the media refuses to do their jobs and does not call him out on any blatant lies. They all just accept this unprecedented behavior, find it “interesting” and any reporting on it is just matter of fact.

    • 117 dotster3
      October 10, 2012 at 9:37 am

      • 118 Lovepolitics2008
        October 10, 2012 at 9:56 am

        So true unfortunately. And we have to thank the media who hasn’t do its job for years. A democracy can stay functional only with a vibrant, independent and vigilant press.

        Winning this election is very important. Lying and obstructing can’t be rewarded. In the long run, it destroys the democratic process. In the long term, there has to be an organized movement to denounce the press and shame them into doing their job. I think it’s even more important than getting money out of elections. Because if americans are well informed, they won’t fall for the manipulation of the big money boys; they’ll dismiss ads if they know who’s behind it.

        • 119 Nena20409
          October 10, 2012 at 10:19 am

          That is the Job we Need to help bush. David Gergen said it after the debate. But it didn’t resonate. Why….many Us on the left went on blaming pres Obama and pulling our heads instead. Liars don’t repent especially, if the lying Bishop is lying for the LORD.

  27. October 10, 2012 at 9:36 am

    OMG listening to Michelle yesterday. She was amazing and what a crowd. Thanks for the link Chips. I couldn’t watch it live.

  28. October 10, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Romney’s emotional story remembered very differently by friend of fallen SEAL

    On the stump in Iowa Tuesday, Mitt Romney revealed that he met former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty at a holiday party some years ago. Doherty is one of four Americans killed during the September 11th attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.

    …. one of Glen Doherty’s best friends remembered Doherty’s impression of this meeting much differently.

    …. “He said it was very comical,” Ellefsen said, “Mitt Romney approached him ultimately four times, using this private gathering as a political venture to further his image. He kept introducing himself as Mitt Romney, a political figure. The same introduction, the same opening line. Glen believed it to be very insincere and stale.”

    Ellefsen said Doherty remembered Romney as robotic.

    “He said it was pathetic and comical to have the same person come up to you within only a half hour, have this person reintroduce himself to you, having absolutely no idea whatsoever that he just did this 20 minutes ago, and did not even recognize Glen’s face.”

    More here:

    http://mynorthwest.com/108/1353861/Romneys-emotional-story-remembered-very-differently-by-friend-of-fallen-SEAL

  29. October 10, 2012 at 9:50 am

    No doubt the Romney weasels will go out of their way to smear Glen Doherty’s friend now, but his account of GD’s take on this ‘meeting’ seems to sum up what a fake and insincere fraud Romney is.

    Master Tweeters? How about taking a line or two from the article and tweetin’ the heck out of it?

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:59 am

    • 132 Lovepolitics2008
      October 10, 2012 at 9:59 am

      especially to pundits in the DC bubble…

    • 133 4morefor44
      October 10, 2012 at 10:16 am

      glen doherty spent years actively working to keep the christian-ist movement from taking over the military (from ‘military religious freedom” group he helped build):

      “For Glen Doherty, combating the unconstitutional religious proselytizing within the U.S. military was simply a matter of fulfilling his sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

      http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Doherty_9-13-12.html

      like the pat tillman death (assassination from within?), republicans try so hard to keep up the charade that military personnel are all for republicans, yet this is far from the truth. it really messes with their narratives when some of the most dramatic stories of bravery and skill are done by people who are more on the liberal side of the scale, especially with tillman who was a big fan of noam chomsky yet quit his million dollar pro football career in his prime to serve in afghanistan after 9/11.

      and i still haven’t been able to find one single romney that has been in the military or shown any sort of sacrifice to america (mormon church work does not count for patriotism as they always try to pass off), despite a long line of svelt young men for several generations. yet another republican scam and using true patriots as fodder to boost their image. disgusting!

    • 134 theo67
      October 10, 2012 at 11:39 am

      Romney didn’t hesitate to criticize the embassy workers while they were under attack. He didn’t hesitate to politicize the attack while their families hadn’t even been notified of their deaths. And Romney and his GOP cohorts have continued to politicize the tragedy (with their “hearing” today) while those families are still reeling from their real loss. I have no words.

  30. October 10, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Ed is telling people not to vote. Nothing new here people. Ed is not on our side, He is working for the republican as a democrat. I stop giving him rating in 2010.

    • October 10, 2012 at 9:56 am

      When did this happen?

    • 142 Lovepolitics2008
      October 10, 2012 at 10:00 am

      You can’t be serious ?

      • 143 anniebella
        October 10, 2012 at 10:10 am

        So you are saying Ed Schultz. is a lying two timing backstabber. He claim to care about the middle class and poor but he really don’t give a darn about people like us. I didn’t hear the comment, but I sent him a email asking him about this very thing. Is there anyway we can hear what he said?

        • 144 Roberta in MN
          October 10, 2012 at 11:35 am

          It has to be on viedo someplace. I watched his show the last two days, no sign of him saying not to vote. I don’t always like him, but IO can’t believe he would be that stupid to do that again. I want to see a you tube of it first then all out war.

    • 145 edp4bho
      October 10, 2012 at 10:06 am

      Well, well. well. The person I tried to give a bit of a play to last week in saying he will return, has doubled down on condemnation? So, he is the R plant in the evening line-up, or the dude is certifiably schizoid. Somehow, I don’t see people following his lead like they may have in 2010, seeing what that has reaped ultimately. Atleast that is my sense, and of course my sense has been tested before. Meanwhile, tweeters should pummel him like a real live ass-whooping. DO NOT let him get away with this bs, TOD.

    • 146 Uche
      October 10, 2012 at 10:27 am

      When did he do that?….hope you’re not looking at 2010 clips.

  31. October 10, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Burns & Haberman Blog
    Latino Decisions: Obama at 80 percent, leads by 66 in Arizona
    By ALEXANDER BURNS | 10/10/12 7:47 AM
    Barack Obama has a 66-point lead over Mitt Romney among Latino voters in the state of Arizona, according to a poll.

    -/
    Now, how can Robney be leading with these numbers? Impossible!

    • October 10, 2012 at 10:04 am

      In the presidential race, 80% of Arizona Latinos said they will vote for President Obama, while 14% said they will vote for Romney and 6% are undecided. The largest vote share for Obama of any state.

      In the U.S. Senate race, 75% of Arizona Latinos said they will vote for Richard Carmona (D), while 12% said they will vote for Rep. Jeff Flake (R) and 13% are undecided.

      In addition, 69% of Arizona Latinos said they will vote for the Democratic candidate in their U.S. House race, while 14% will vote Republican and another 14% are undecided.

      -/
      All this means is that Arizona is quietly very competitive!

    • 149 desertflower
      October 10, 2012 at 10:05 am

      THEY NEED TO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they vote, we can turn this god forsaken state BLUE!

  32. 152 lisalovesobama
    October 10, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Guys, what’s the number for MSNBC and the CEO of the company? Lets call and talk to real people. All you have to do is call the president’s office and say: ” is it true that Ed Shutlz is telling Democrats not to vote.” Call as many times as you want or can throughout the day. Then the next day, then the next. Also, people who tweet, do the same. Send out tweets to Ed and msnbc and the president guy. The idea is that the more people call and ask, the less they can ignore us. The less Ed can ignore us. It’s about pushing awareness. He has to be held accountable. I’m gonna look up the phone numbers.

    • 153 edp4bho
      October 10, 2012 at 10:09 am

      Dammit, we are not gonna allow this bs this close to the election. We need to take him out, now. Enough is enough.

      • 154 cluny
        October 10, 2012 at 10:19 am

        Where is the evidence that Ed Schultz is doing this? Can that please be shared here? All I am hearing at the moment is speculation.

    • 155 Melissa
      October 10, 2012 at 10:15 am

      Can someone tell us exactly what WAS said (by Ed) so we know what’s going on? Context etc…

    • October 10, 2012 at 10:23 am

      2126743720

      Msnbc phone number above, tell them you want to complain and then press 5 for the Ed show …

      • 157 lisalovesobama
        October 10, 2012 at 10:28 am

        I did, put I didn’t let her push me to voice mail. I asked her directly. Do that when you call. Call and ask her, she’s gotta report to somebody and I’m pretty sure that if enough people call and ask her, she’ll be going to her supervisor. Also, you can call Ed’s voice mail in addition to tell him what you think about him if you want. I just want to be heard, not sent to a voicemail service where my comment is listened to by a glorified errand boy then deleted. Also, does anyone have the number for the CEO guy? I want to talk to his secretary or whatever the hell she is, too. The idea is to talk to real people. Not voicemail.

    • 158 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 10:28 am

      212-644-4444 for general comments

      212-644-2456 for Griffin

    • October 10, 2012 at 10:42 am

      This is hard to believe. I too would love to know when and where he told Dems not to vote. Please give us a link :-)

    • 160 Cman
      October 10, 2012 at 11:17 am

      I would need a clip of him saying “people should not vote” to start doing something like that.

  33. October 10, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Congressman Chris Van Hollen on Thursday’s Vice Presidential Debate

  34. 162 criquet
    October 10, 2012 at 10:11 am

    This needs to be sent to all the media hacks. Maybe a few will at least try to do a story or two on it.

    • October 10, 2012 at 10:18 am

    • 164 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 10:19 am

      And Chuck Todd have the nerve to talk about blaming the media, you dam right I do blame them because they know Romney is lying his butt off but the media don’t call him on his lies. The media sat their and call a dam liar a winner in a debate.

  35. 165 Grab a Mop Grace
    October 10, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Does anyone have an easy to cut and paste list of major media outlet email addresses?

    Obama/Biden 2012

  36. 167 anniebella
    October 10, 2012 at 10:16 am

    If this is true, If you have a number for me to call MSNBC and complain about Ed Schultz, give me that number because I will call now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. 168 lisalovesobama
    October 10, 2012 at 10:17 am

    This is all I can find:

    MSNBC Corporate Office Headquarters HQ
    One MSNBC Plaza
    Secaucus, NJ 07094
    MSNBC Corporate Phone Number: 1-201-583-5000
    MSNBC Fax Number: 1-201-583-5453

    MSNBC/NBC
    30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY 10112
    Phone: 212-664-3720

    • 169 lisalovesobama
      October 10, 2012 at 10:24 am

      The first one doesn’t work. The second one does. Ask the lady that picks up the phone. Don’t let her bump you over the voice mail. I asked her if it was true and she said: ” I cannot confirm or deny that.” Then I said, ‘MSNBC doesn’t know it its tv personality is going around Florida telling Americans not to vote?” She said MSNBC would make a statement about it basically, if it became a big deal. :roll: CALL and ask. I think we should make it a big deal! 2126643720

  38. 170 lamh35
    October 10, 2012 at 10:22 am

    ok, so yesterday i posted about Mitt Romney saying he actually met one of the victims of the Benghazi, Libya attack, the one who was an ex-Seal. Well I just thought that was way too convenient for Mitt. The story he told was so “emotional” and so “personal”…whatever.

    Well now it seems a friend of the ex-Seal spoke to a producer at a radio show I guess about his friend of 20 years and you guessed his, his tale of the meeting between Mitt and the ex-Seal was different than Mitts.

    Here’s the article: “Romney’s emotional story remembered very differently by friend of fallen SEAL”

    http://mynorthwest.com/108/1353861/Romneys-emotional-story-remembered-very-differently-by-friend-of-fallen-SEAL

  39. 171 Margie James
    October 10, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Somebody called him on this shit, when he did it in 2010 and he denied it. Ed Shultz told people not to vote in 2010 y’all. I heard it with my own ears! I guess he wants to be persona no grata, like Nader,Smiley, and West. What the hell happened did the President refuse to come on his show? There’s always some petty BS behind the holier than thou act. This is no time for games dammit!

    • 172 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

      Yes he did. He later after he got a huge push back, he retreated. I saw Ed in Jan 2011 and I and my sister confronted him. Ed even said on radio that pres Obama hated him in 2010. That was not true either. He get got emotional for he was NOT invited to the WH, along with KOlberman, RMaddow, etc. But this new charge is Not so….well, I can’t verify it so far. We really don’t need to be going after Ed…..we need to go after the media and push back as the right does. 7.8% UE is not the conversation. Now it is Libya and Benghazi.

      The focus is the media and their lazy and lame ways they cover the news.

    • 173 Mae who love our CIC
      October 10, 2012 at 11:13 am

      2010????

  40. October 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Time-share mogul tells employees to vote for Romney — to save their jobs

    Orlando time-share mogul David Siegel has told his 7,000 employees that if Mitt Romney is not elected, he may have to lay people off….

    In a e-mail to all his employees, Siegel said that he did not want to tell them how to vote – but wanted them to know that another four years of President Barack Obama could make it tough for him to keep people employed.

    “You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive,” he concludes. “My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

    “Signed, your boss.”

    ….. The e-mail was forwarded anonymously to the Sentinel by someone who said, “I feel like my boss is threatening me.”

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-10-09/news/os-siegel-letter-to-staff-20121009_1_time-share-mogul-david-siegel-e-mail

  41. 177 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

    MULTIPLE CHOICE MITT STRIKES AGAIN

    Romney, aides can’t keep their story straight on reproductive rights

    By Steve Benen

    ———————————–

    Mitt Romney takes a position on tax policy, then his staff says something else. Romney takes a position on Iran, then his staff says something else. Romney takes a position on health care, then his staff says something else. Romney takes a position on his own immigration adviser, then his staff says something else.

    This new one, however, is a doozy, even by Romney standards.

    It took all of two hours before Romney’s chief spokesperson said the exact opposite, explaining, “Gov. Romney would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life.” Asked whether the candidate’s position on abortion legislation had changed, Romney’s spokesperson would “not answer directly.”
    .
    .
    For those keeping score at home, it now appears that Romney has taken nine different positions on abortion rights over the course of 18 years.

    ———————————–

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/10/14341590-romney-aides-cant-keep-their-story-straight-on-reproductive-rights

  42. 178 cluny
    October 10, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Hi all – I am going to ask this for the third time. Where is the EVIDENCE that Ed Schultz has been telling people not to vote

    • 179 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

      No evidence that I can find.

    • 180 Uche
      October 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

      Exactly cluny….I asked same question above. I haven’t heard him do that this cycle. He did in 2010 midterms….hope the person who posted that wasn’t watching the 2010 clips.

    • 181 57andfemale
      October 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

      He did in 2010 over no public option in ACA. He said that progressives should not vote to ‘send a message’. I heard him say it on the radio at the time. I heard it several times. It was not a constant thing, but I heard him say it. I almost ran my car into a tree, I was so pissed.

      • 182 Nena20409
        October 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

        Yes he did in 2010 57andfemale. I heard him. Some here heard him. This is 2012 and Ed didn’t say it. So why are we going back to 2010? 27 days before this election? Who exactly does a 2010 comments help? A house divided, crumbles.

        Ed is Not pres Obama. Pres Obama is OUR ONLY FOCUS. It is either we are IN or We are not. I am. So let Us stop this and march on to get this president elected. Enough.

        FORWARD.

        • 183 pugeretto
          October 10, 2012 at 11:19 am

          F—–O—–R—–W—–A—–R—–D !!!!!

        • 184 57andfemale
          October 10, 2012 at 12:19 pm

          Ed has not been helpful since the debate. I think the reference to not voting was just a means of some people who were very disappointed in his diatribe, to remind people of how damage is done to our cause by our alleged progressive media.

          And yes — it is up to us to STFU about that damned debate. republicans NEVER would have dissed their candidate, and they certainly wouldn’t still be talking about it a week later. When will we ever learn?

    • October 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      That is what I was wondering as well. If Ed said this on his television show, I completely missed it!

    • 187 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

      Right on Mr. Clinton. I would think the American people would see the same thing, I don’t care what people say , the fact is you can’t trust a liar like Mitt Romney.

    • 188 Cman
      October 10, 2012 at 11:24 am

      LMAO. Oh, that should be requite viewing for everyone. Too funny. Clinton was overjoyed there.

    • 189 Roberta in MN
      October 10, 2012 at 11:48 am

      That is just hysterical. He does have a sarcastic way of saying things with a smile, glad he is finally on our side. :)

  43. 190 cluny
    October 10, 2012 at 10:32 am

    With all due respect making a fuss about the Ed thing is stupid. 1. Where is the evidence? 2. You are putting emphasis on the wrong meme and demoralising PBO supporters at a time when they need to be fired up and energised. 3. Keep your eye on the prize – the target is Romney and getting OUT the vote regardless of what media pundits have or have not said. If there is no hard evidence this should stop – it’s approaching hysterical witch hunting.

    • 191 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 10:41 am

      A divided House always crumbles. The Boss sings: We Take Care of Our Own. If there is a need to go after Ed, them….lets. He and Tweety were terrible a week ago. Now what are we doing? Can We all please Stop. Take a break and Go after the Lying Bishop and the media, Chuck and Alexander and Tapper of the world?

    • 192 Cman
      October 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

      I agree, I don’t see a video of this just people telling me he is doing stuff. What’s more I saw the Rachel town hall and it was definitely not a demoralizing crusade it has been made out to be.

  44. 193 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

    MODERATE THIS STATEMENT

    By Ed Kilgore – Washington Monthly

    ————————-

    So last year, in a carefully considered and drafted statement, Romney was all for new legislation to ban federal funding for Planned Parenthood, and promised to “advocate and support” federal “fetal pain” legislation along the lines of bills being promoted by anti-choice legislators from sea to shining sea. He basically agreed to do anything within the president’s power to help The Cause, with the exception of administering litmus tests to a host of his appointees, which is what the SBA List was asking him to do. To some extent, his comments to the Register simply reflected the limitations of the executive branch on this particular subject, which has been a source of great frustration to anti-choicers over the years.

    But Moderate Mitt should not be able to get away with bland reassurances on this issue—with his own campaign repudiating him almost on the spot—without dealing with specific pledges he made during this very campaign. Is he—on behalf of himself and his loyal running-mate, Paul Ryan, who up until now has been universally considered a leader in the anti-choice cause—specifically retracting promises to promote a funding ban on Planned Parenthood and federal legislation flatly banning abortions prior to some arbitrary point in the second trimester of pregnancy?

    It would be good to know if Moderate Mitt is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

    —————————————-

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_10/moderate_this_statement040400.php#

  45. October 10, 2012 at 10:47 am

    G’m TOD. Let’s keep our eyes on the north star like the President says. Let us all do whatever we can to move the cause
    further along. If you can phone-bank, knock on doors, register voters or donate, any of these will be a blessing to the campaign.
    Please continue to help in anyway you can. The other side is trying to throw us off our game. DON’T LET THEM. Keep HOPE alive.

  46. October 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Please allow me to rant……

    ————
    ANIMAL FARM REDUX

    The shift in the election narrative (and narrative is all it is!!!) has nothing to do with the debate. Nothing! The debate simply provided one of several trip wires to trigger already programmed reactions from the mighty Wurlitzer and in turn the electorate. We are all being wrung through the most calculated Orwellian propaganda spin machine there ever was, and the electorate has been systematically programmed since 2008 to behave as they are doing right now. Heck they’ve been programmed since Nixon’s and Reagan’s days to do exactly as we see now.

    I tell you, Romney’s reaction to Libya was intended to be one of such trip wires that went awry. Earlier his trip abroad was intended to do similar damage to Pres. Obama in Israel & Europe. Then it was the RNC convention which landed us on Eastwood’s empty chair debacle. If not the debate, it would have been some other “surprise” lined up for us before election day. President Obama is simply the obstacle in their path that they intend to destroy no matter what, democracy be damned. And if they could do it with the electorate’s complicity so much the better for them.

    How is it that a plutocratic vampire and a teabagging party who have insulted Americans every which way to Sunday; a party and candidate who have told the American people categorically that they intend to do them irreparable harm; a party that decided during the throes of economic recession that they CAUSED in order to siphon public funds to greedy corporations (it wasn’t only the $700 billion banks bailout, but the $16 trillion that the Fed Reserve shelled out to banks) and to fundamentally recalibrate downward ordinary Americans’ living standards and economic security to match global levels — how is such party not run out of town by Americans on a rail? Well, they do what they do with impunity precisely because they have the fingers on the psychological triggers that inflame the electorate’s passions at the expense of their rational interests.

    I am no conspiracy theorist, but nothing smells right about what is going on. We are in the midst of a well-choreographed but venal al-Qaeda-like insurgency tactic. The plutocrats are filling the air with noise to create panic among electorate. Noise warfare is a tactic to disorient then bait and switch on the victim. We are at that stage now and the intent is to make the electorate scream and say “Ok you win. Take all the power and every right that I have. Just make it stop!!!” Aha…

    We know for a fact that the entire Washington Permagov and corporations & media (not just Mitch McConnell) all decided in 2009 that THIS President would simply be afforded a janitorial presidency to stave off public unrest and allow the plutocrats to regroup. I’m not guessing this, the wingnuts themselves said so. Bill Kristol said so in 2008, as did Karl Rove who told Repubs to go underground with their REAL agenda for a while, say whatever they had to get elected, and save as many seats as they could in 2008 just so they could weather the economic crisis until the coast cleared. They gleefully realized that Pres. Obama had no cabal of corporate godfathers behind his bid who will fight on his behalf tooth and nail. All he had was us the people. The People! “Ah” the plutocrats said. “That is not a constituency we should be afraid of if we play our cards right”. “They are NOT playas in our game. Those can be manipulated”.

    If you read Bob Woodward’s latest screed and the particular contempt he has for Pres. Obama for no other reason than the fact that he did not play by the rules of Washington’s denizens. As Noam Scheiber dissects it in his review of Woodward’s book http://www.tnr.com/book/review/bob-woodward-price-of-politics#

    Woodward’s second charge may be literally true—Obama wasn’t exactly the smoothest Washington operator—but is otherwise nonsensical. The book goes to great lengths to show that Obama was uniquely inept at courting Congress…. Woodward goes on for pages about how the White House set back a potential deal by inviting Paul Ryan to a speech in which Obama criticized Ryan’s budget proposal. (The indignity!) In Woodward’s mind, the seriousness of this offense is second only to Obama’s reliance on modern communications technology to press Boehner for more revenue. “Most extraordinary was [Obama’s] repeated use of the telephone for critical exchanges,” he writes. “The result was a monumental communications lapse between the president and the speaker at a critical juncture.”

    So, to review, the Republicans were theologically opposed to even the meagerest, mangiest revenue increases—even to the minimum amount of revenue Obama could have gotten without them, even in exchange for trillions of dollars in spending cuts—and yet Obama is somehow to blame for blowing up the deal because … why, exactly? Because he didn’t invite Boehner over for grilled cheese? (The mind boggles over the catastrophe that would have ensued had Obama texted Boehner via iPhone.) This reeks of the frozen-in-amber Sally Quinn lament that politicians don’t spend enough time bantering at Georgetown dinner parties, when in fact there are vast structural forces militating against collegial deal-making. Namely, that national politics has become intensely polarized over the last generation as the parties have sorted themselves along ideological lines. During that same time, the Republican Party has completely lost its marbles, having turned into a collection of anti-tax jidhadis bent on the upward redistribution of wealth. Sadly, the chances of solving that problem with a bit more schmoozing are exceedingly slim.

    The irony is that the only way to overcome these massive obstacles is by doing the opposite of what Woodward recommends—by searching for leverage over the other side and exploiting it. Woodward, like any good Georgetown denizen, is scandalized that Obama gave up on bipartisanship in September of 2011 to browbeat Republicans over more stimulus. “Instead of trying to work with Congress, he would attack,” Woodward huffs. “In speech after speech, he pushed for Congress to take up the bill, hammering particularly on the issue of the payroll tax cuts.” But, of course, all this attacking resulted in pretty much the only big legislative victory of Obama’s second two years. The Republicans crumpled. Obama signed a payroll extension worth over $100 billion in early 2012.

    At this point any reasonable observer would conclude that more, not less, ruthlessness would have helped Obama work his will. Woodward doesn’t see it that way. Instead, he takes yet another opportunity to mourn the passing of the baronial style of congressional back-scratching. “Obama celebrated the bill’s passage on February 21 in the White House’s South Court Auditorium. Surrounded by individuals who would benefit from the payroll tax cut, but no members of Congress, he was the champion of the tax cuts,” Woodward writes. Then he quotes Obama: “With or without Congress, every day I’m going to be continuing to fight for them.” The quote is intended to be damning, of course—what species of cretin would stiff-arm Congress and then crow about it?

    This sort of contempt from the beltway denizens is what Pres. Obama has been up against these 4 years. Woodward and others like him see Pres. Obama as a “usurper” who hadn’t paid his “dues’ to the corporate order in Washington and therefore does not deserve to be in office. To quote a haunting line from Richard Wright’s _The Man Who Lived Underground_ the dominant forces in society have to destroy non-conformists because “they wreck things”.

    So what does this say about where we are now? It says that the years of demonizing President Obama, the media’s complicity in pumping out non-stop said demonization, Democrats’ incapacity to mount counteroffensives of their own enabled the electorate to give equal weight to contradictory information about President Obama – both positive and trumped up negative. But the negative lay dormant until now when the corporatocracy plus media want to force the electorate to throw overboard the positive and focus like a laser on the negative.

    This is why Romney can make umpteen egregious mistakes and lie brazenly to 68 million Americans and be rewarded as “winner” by said Wurlitzer, while Pres. Obama who made NO errors, except a subdued demeanor, is made villain. The electorate is being both bombarded with noise about Pres. Obama, and simultaneously being wooed to forgive and forget everything Repubs and Romney have done. Yes indeed how do you debate a haint….

    • 196 cluny
      October 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

      Yes – that’s all true but connected to my earlier point re Ed Schultz the only way to win is to FOCUS on what we need to do. For God’s sake STOP talking about the debate and STOP obsessing over the poll numbers – the only way they win is if we let them. Did Citizens United stop our side from competing – NO – because people power was stronger and now PBO has enough money to be able to fight back. They are united – letting Romney say whatever he wants without pushback and we are squabbling amongst ourselves and talking about low ball stuff like what Ed Schultz said. I know people are worried and it’s better when we are 5 points ahead but that’s not the case now and there is an enormous difference between Ed saying ‘people are dispirited’ to ‘people stay home’. Keep donating, calling and MOST IMPORTANTLY canvassing as that has proven to be the most effective. We can’t wait for the last debate – we have to ACT NOW. The only way to stop the slide is to stay optimistic and fight. Panicking and expending energy on what Ed did or didn’t say is a waste of time and guaranteed way to kill morale.

      • October 10, 2012 at 11:18 am

        Who says anyone is panicking? Did you read at all what I wrote? Not once did I focus on the debate. I was giving a sense of the Republican playbook which we must KNOW in order to fight it. We can’t go to war blind to the other side’s strategies. To know them is to expose them. That’s all I did in my post. Read it!

    • 200 edp4bho
      October 10, 2012 at 11:09 am

      I expect nothing less than this from you, zizi, our resident historian, professor, story teller. Just fabulous. This needs to be fronted here and on POU. Thanks for speaking the way a lot of us are unable to, but see and feel exactly as you do. And, I absolutely love Animal Farm :-D

    • 202 Jewelz
      October 10, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Excellent post Zizi. You can see it in the way they continually disrespect him on every news show. They are jealous of him and his accomplishments. They never expected an ‘outsider’ to come in and accomplished all that he was able to even in the face of extreme oppositions. It’s the same reason the media never held the Republican in congress responsible for their unpatriotic behavior towards the country for the past 4years. Can you imagine what would’ve happened to a democratic congress if they had acted the same way under a republican president like these republicans have done under this president? Can you imagine what the media would be saying now if a group of democrats had plotted to destroy the presidency of a new republican president on inauguration day especially at a time of major economic disaster? I’d bet you they would’ve demanded an impeachment hearing and charged them for treason. But because it’s Obama, they were okay with a minority leader declaring that their number one goal was not JOBS, but to make Obama a ONE TERM PRESIDENT. The media and every Republican in Congress make me sick.

    • 204 Mae who love our CIC
      October 10, 2012 at 12:31 pm

      Excellent post. Thank you and I agree.

  47. 205 Andy46
    October 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Morning TOD

    I had difficulty with the audio on Black America Web …in case others did too here is the link to the
    transcript of President Obama interview this morning with Tom Joyner:

    http://www.blackamericaweb.com/news/top-news/big-chief-calls-home

    • 206 Andy46
      October 10, 2012 at 11:09 am

      Stay “Focus”

      BARACK OBAMA: And I think that it’s very important for folks to just make sure that they understand that as long as people stay focused we will win this thing.

      TOM JOYNER: We’ll keep pushing too.

      BARACK OBAMA: We will win this thing as long as folks stay focused. And that’s what we had to do. And as far as your earlier question, in terms of the African-American community.

      TOM JOYNER: Yeah?

      BARACK OBAMA: I mean its millions of people are getting healthcare, and keeping 7 million people out of poverty in the debts of that recession because what we did with the earned income tax credit, the child tax credit, and job training programs, the work that we’ve done to fight back out of that hole, you know, so that the unemployment rate has dropped from 10 points, multiple percentage points for everybody, not just the total population, but the African-American community. The housing, 5 million people that have been able to keep their homes and avoid foreclosure. And all the progress that we’re doing. I’m up in here in Ohio right now and you’ve got auto plants that are humming that would’ve been liquidated.

      TOM JOYNER: Yep.

      BARACK OBAMA: You know, all these things have a direct impact on our communities. And all these things are at stake in this election. So people just have to make sure that they stay focused and I guarantee you we’ve got, you know, Biden I think will be terrific in the debate this week.

  48. 207 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Ann Romney To Visit Cancer Center That Benefited From Stimulus Funds

    By Igor Volsky on Oct 10, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Ann Romney, a breast cancer survivor, will visit the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Florida on Wednesday — which has received millions from the stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act). Her husband and his running mate Paul Ryan both opposed the measure, which President Obama signed into law in February of 2009.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/10/10/982751/ann-romney-to-visit-cancer-center-that-benefited-from-stimulus-funds/

  49. 208 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 10:58 am

    The GOP’s embassy security problem

    By Steve Benen

    ——————————–

    Asked if he’d voted to cut federal funding for security at U.S. embassies and consulates, Chaffetz responded, “Absolutely. Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country…. When you’re in touch economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

    Hmm. Those “priorities” apparently don’t include security at U.S. diplomatic outposts abroad.

    Dana Milbank picked up on the same problem: inadequate diplomatic security is the direct result of Republican budget cuts.
    .
    .
    A little something to keep in mind during Issa’s pre-election p.r. stunt on Capitol Hill today — and when Romney/Ryan tries to use this to their advantage.

    —————————————

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/10/14342096-the-gops-embassy-security-problem?lite

  50. October 10, 2012 at 10:58 am

    I don’t think this guy is reporting all the early voting that is going on-

    http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

    Either that, or it’s way down from 08!

  51. October 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

  52. 211 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 11:07 am

    SOLEDAD O’BRIEN ASKS THE RIGHT QUESTION ON GOP LIBYA PR STUNT FOR ROMNEY:

    VIDEO: Right-Wing Media’s Libya Consulate Security Mythology Falls Apart

    ———————-

    The conservative media talking point that the White House abdicated its responsibility to secure the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, took a hit Wednesday when CNN’s Soledad O’Brien pressed Congressman Jason Chaffetz to acknowledge that he joined House Republicans in voting to cut funding for embassy security.

    Since the September attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, the right-wing media have attacked the Obama administration for supposedly not having enough security at the compound. That myth is undermined by a State Department explanation that “no reasonable security presence could have successfully fended” off the attack.
    .
    .
    O’Brien asked: “Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?” Chaffetz responded: “Absolutely. Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country.”

    ——————————-

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/10/right-wing-medias-libya-consulate-security-myth/190508

  53. 213 57andfemale
    October 10, 2012 at 11:08 am

  54. October 10, 2012 at 11:10 am

    To be clear, I did not start that rumor about Ed Shuktz telling People not to vote.
    That was started by Hopefruit.
    Ask her for the 411.
    I simply said he held a Townhall last night in Miami, and said on his show that Obama supporters were disappointed.
    He said this last night.
    Rachel said on her show, that she talked to 2k people on Monday night in Ohio.
    The question is, why is msnbc having non tv events with their anchors? Why can’t we watch them? What’s the big secret?

    • 216 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

      Thanks for the clarification. MSNBC is not showing those….for they think it is partisan.

      But having Dan Senor on MJ for 3 hrs is not. CNBC and their bashing of pres Obama 24/7 is not. That is why I write rich liberals, including Robert Redford, Cuba…..the basketball owner, etc when they blog on HP to help set Up a BBC style 24/7 cable that their main core is to factually inform the public. Media is NOT with pres Obama since Jan 20, 2009.

      • 217 jacquelineoboomer
        October 10, 2012 at 11:39 am

        I totally disagree with your last statement (/snark/). The media gave the President Jan. 20, 2009, and then the VERY NEXT DAY the media and the PL went after him, and most haven’t stopped for almost four years. He had a day, and he was busy being inaugurated that day. Shortest honeymoon for a President in my lifetime (and he’s the best I’ve witnessed), and I’m in my 60s. It actually went beyond “short.” More like if ya blinked ya missed it.

    • 218 cluny
      October 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

      Jovie please do not expend energy on stuff like that – it’s a complete waste of time. Ed and Rachael will not be responsible for how Democrats vote. Yes, they and many other ‘Obama supporters’ have been ridiculous since debate night but we are only adding fuel to the fire by constantly talking about it. The only way the media narrative will change is if we don’t give it any energy. This election is on a knife edge now. If we want to win we have to stay positive and fight like mad – especially when confronted by bad news. It’s cowardly to fold when the pressure is on. Now is the time for us to at our most optimistic, cool and DEADLY. FORWARD!

      • October 10, 2012 at 11:44 am

        I think the media is giving a big boost to Robney and I will continue making observations.
        It’s the media who have a lot of power.
        However, We have more power than they do, my OFA Team
        Sent in 450 registrations yesterday, in just 1 day.
        That is how we take our power back, from the propaganda MSM.

      • 220 Andy46
        October 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm

        MSNBC two highest rated shows are The ED Show (#2) and the Rachel Maddow Show (#1); both shows
        got a significant bounce in ratings following the Dems convention from 800,000/900,000 viewers on average to
        over a 1+ million viewers since the DNC convention.

        Rachel hit 1.7 million viewers during the 47% tape release… Rachel is now averaging 1.2 million viewers nightly now…Rachel said President Obama lost the debate gave a 16 minutes presentation about it and no where fact checked Romney’s lies and talking polls… Ed said President Obama lost the debate (went on the Today show to hammer the point home the next day)….both Rachel and Ed are considered Liberals; and do have influence that can not be discounted; NBC is know this…NBC need to disclose at the beginning of every political report their relationship with Bain Capital that now goes beyond the Weather Channel but now includes E! Network.

        NBC debate coverage of the VP debate Thursday night are marketing Andrea M, David Gregory, Tom Brokaw, Chuck(Mr. Enthusiasm Gap) Todd, Svannah Guthrie as the truth team.

        Tom Brokaw was on Jon Stewart a couple weeks back and when ask about Erin Burnett and Wolf B response to Romney lying speech at the RNC convention by saying the speech was good and facts didn’t matter; Brokaw defend them by saying they didn’t have enough time.

    • 221 Sharon
      October 10, 2012 at 11:48 am

      I didn’t follow Schultz closely, but I do recall Schultz holding town halls in 2010–very emotional, almost unhinged. Reminds me a lot of a demigod because he pushes his viewpoint so hard he becomes irrational, but is a force so strong, it is hard to counter him. He was definitely one of the main people I was running from when I fled cable news a few years back.

  55. 222 dotster3
    October 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Sheri Shepherd “didn’t get” the Big Bird ad and joins Elisabeth in condemning it. Ay yi yi yi yi.

    • October 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

      Well of course they get it, they are just saying that. It’s all part of the game they are all playing.
      Its a game to them.

    • 224 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 11:23 am

      I don’t watch the View, when I did watch it Sheri Shepherd wasn’t the brightest one up there, far form it. Here’s the purpose of the big Bird ad, As big as the debt is the only thing Romney could name that he was going to cut was money to PBS (Sesame Street) and that won’t put a dent in the debt.

    • 225 lisalovesobama
      October 10, 2012 at 11:24 am

      Hmmmm……. This Sherri Shepard?

      http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=GbizzLzcpnM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGbizzLzcpnM

      Ps- perhaps she should spend more time watching PBS.

    • 226 jacquelineoboomer
      October 10, 2012 at 11:25 am

      Few voters care what they say. Nobody’s voting for them. They both should {fill in the blank}.

    • 227 Nena20409
      October 10, 2012 at 11:25 am

      Elizabeth didn’t get the Bain ads either…..neither did the media or some Dems. The Obama team is now being portrayed at inept….in just days…..?

      It is a well coordinated tactic. Sheri is being used here. She believed that the EARTH was flat.

    • 228 Mae who love our CIC
      October 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      Who listens to Sheri Shepherd about anything? She offers no insight about nothing. She is a go along to get along person. She needs the paycheck and her limited view reflects such.

  56. 230 dotster3
    October 10, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Does this make sense to anyone?

    • October 10, 2012 at 11:24 am

      No, it’s how they even up the race, but if the undecideds are in obamas base, that’s a very good thing.
      What poll?

    • 232 anniebella
      October 10, 2012 at 11:25 am

      Is it true that 12% of AA is undecided? Some how I don’t believe it.

    • 233 Melanie
      October 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

      Out of context tweet alert…Nate is referring to Rasmussen polling. He doesn’t say that he believes this and I’m not defending him. I’m just looking at his previous tweets. There’s so much crap flying around this morning…

  57. 234 squarepeg
    October 10, 2012 at 11:31 am

  58. October 10, 2012 at 11:37 am

  59. 236 Linda
    October 10, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Breaking :

    Montana Campaign Donation Limits Reinstated By 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals

  60. 238 dotster3
    October 10, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Miss Ann must have had her fingers crossed behind her back when she insisted that everything Willard said in the debate was what he has been saying all along. Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I think she was lucky to avoid the lightning strike. And then, once again, she compared the Obama team to “a petulant child” for losing the debate and using the excuse that Willard lied. The Willard family loves to compare Obama and his team to some sort of rotten child, “an obstinate child” (Tagg) and now a “petulant child” (miss ann). I cannot stand this family.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ann-romney-likens-obama-teams-post-debate-reaction-to-petulant-child-losing-game-in-sandbox/

  61. 239 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Will women fall for Mitt’s moderate makeover?

    By Greg Sargent

    —————————–

    The Obama campaign held a conference call this morning to hit Romney over the reversal, arguing that his comments showed he’s obscuring the extreme positions he took on women’s issues to get through the primary. Importantly, the Obama camp tied this to the House GOP, noting that Romney running mate Paul Ryan has co-sponsored various extreme abortion bills in the House.

    “Women can’t trust Mitt Romney, and the American people can’t trust him to be honest and direct about where he stands,” Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, said on the call, adding that Romney “wants to get rid of women’s access to birth control,” that he wants to “get rid of Planned Parenthood,” and to “overturn Roe.”

    “This Congress has repeatedly taken aim at taking women back decades,” Richards continued. “Who is in the White House makes an enormous difference. President Obama has stood up to the Tea Party Congress and said, `We’re not going to get rid of those things.’”

    ———————————

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/will-women-fall-for-mitts-moderate-makeover/2012/10/10/17da0974-12ea-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_blog.html

  62. October 10, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Robney holding a Townhall with Cristie, getting his practice in.
    Taking the Presidents talking points, again.

  63. 241 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 10, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Wow, people are STILL doing the second-hand, hair-on-fire,fact-free media hysteria thing here. Unbelievable. We’re a month away from election, folks.

    Goodness gracious.


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