This is an interesting read. I am trying to reserve judgement on the Petraeus story, seems like it’s warranted to wait and see how it unfolds and what information comes to light.
The only judgement I want rigorously questioned is why Cantor failed to inform the House and Senate Leadership and the White House. Gen Petraeus will have to live with what he did for the remainder of his life, but my battle is with GOP already trying to twist the situation for political gain against our President. So, to the extent we can bring maximum exposure on Cantor and his failure to inform his colleagues and the White House, we should.
Why didn't Eric Cantor inform his House & Senate colleagues & the White House of the Petraeus affair? @SenFeinstein @JohnKerry— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) November 11, 2012
and before Cantor wasn’t informing his colleagues, how did Repub Rep. Reichert learn of this info and why did he inform just Cantor, and why Cantor? As the Chgo Trib quote states, extramarital affairs are common at all levels of the CIA—-isn’t that nice?—-and it sounds so far like a lovers’ triangle kind of deal—-Broadwell threatening Kelley because she saw her as a competitor for Petraeus’ affection—-I think any criticism from Congress about being kept in the dark should be directed to Cantor and Reichert. They presumably were the first and only members of Congress to be aware of the developing situation.
“I think any criticism from Congress about being kept in the dark should be directed to Cantor and Reichert. They presumably were the first and only members of Congress to be aware of the developing situation.”
Precisely, dotster. That’s why I’ve been pressing that issue in various tweets.
Putting all the behavior among consenting ‘adults’ aside, as this unfolds the timing indicates a highly probable scenario in which Reichert, Cantoer and perhaps other Rs, knowing that a security breach was not uncovered in the FBI investigation, and thinking that President Obama would be defeated, delayed flow of information. With President Obama defeated they might have been able to keep a lid on it because it is no secret that Petraeus was (way, way more than Jeb) the great white hope for the GOP in 2016 a la Ike. That all fell apart at ~ 820pm EST 6 Nov 2012 – for the good of the Nation, for sure.
Remember these guys were in their own re-election fights. They probably didn’t want to have to deal with the media’s non-stop questions about Petreaus’ love triangle while their opponents were free to discuss policy and stuff. They let sleeping dogs lie until they were secure in their own re-election. Just imo.
Frankly I think the whole affair thing is none of our business. But if he compromised security and it appears he did not protecting his email account then good riddance. I’ve been pissed with his arrogant self ever since he decided to play kingmaker during the 2008 election by trying to make Sen McCain appear to be the more informed military person than Sen Obama on his visit to Capitol Hill during the election season. (McCain of course didn’t hold a candle to Senator Obama.)
And after that he made sure he got his way by going behind his Commander in Chief to the press to get POTUS to commit to the Afghan surge. That particular speech was the ONLY time I ever felt that POTUS wasn’t feeling true to the words he was saying (about the need for that surge). So good riddance to the self promoter media darling David Patraeus.
yeah, it’s a wonder that he’ll be able to walk to the congressional hearings, never mind taking a seat. then again, it can’t be easy carrying the weight of all those stars.
If he testifies, he’ll be fawned over by Congress, just like that banker. They love “celebrities”, even if they’ve screwed over the American people. Congress has shown us where they think their bread is buttered, even though we’re the ones who pay their bills for them…
We want fawning in this case. The sooner we move off of this, the better. It’s just another attempt to keep beating that same old drum of trying to make Benghazi some sort of cover up. As I said earlier, the world, not just the US is on a cliff. There’s not much interest in this whole Benghazi stuff. We’ll see how long Petreaus and Benghazi stay on the front page.
Good point. I can’t believe that the GOP and the media (and their idiot followers) are still playing politics with this Benghazi tragedy. They have ignored facts to a fault.
Thank you for the Veterans Day pictures from today’s remembrance at Arlington. My husband and son are both veterans, as was my father. My husband, Korea; my son the Cold War (Germany at the very end of the Soviet empire) and my father, World War II. I am extremely proud of all of them, as I am of all veterans.
I appreciate President Obama’s solemn respect for our veterans.
Thanks again for this wonderful place, and thanks to all of you TODers. I have learned so much from your links, and messages.
LL, you said you were germinating a piece about the election…….I’m waiting!
Dear @olivegarden, there are hundreds of Italian restaurants in L.A. much better than you. Enjoy losing customers.— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) November 11, 2012
Dear @papajohns, I shop at a local pizzeria. Shove your retribution up your ass. xoxoxo— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) November 11, 2012
@Lib_Librarian @PapaJohns Right on, LL. Via Tribunali, Olympia Pizza, Pagliacci in Seattle all vastly better than pjs— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) November 11, 2012
Stupid: voting and giving money to Romney. More stupid: cutting off your own balls because Romney lost. @papajohn @olivegarden— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) November 12, 2012
Thank you. That is a really interesting point of view. I think deeply embedded racial feelings are behind a lot of people’s inability to credit President Obama for his re-election.
Obama’s virulent opponents – The Tea Party, the Citizens United, the Birthers and so on – were driven by the pain of watching an African American sitting in a chair that had been occupied by some of the most revered European Americans of the last 200 years.
It was a contest between a past when the master and the slave knew their respective places, and a present and future where millions of Americans had embraced Martin Luther King Junior’s dream of a nation of racial equality.
Obama’s re-lection has shown, once again, that he is at the head of a new generation of Americans of all races that have vanquished the folly of apartheid and slavery. The ground troops who worked tirelessly to get him re-elected were predominantly European-American..
While it is true that he was the choice of the vast majority of the minority voters, he would never have won without the votes of tens of millions of liberated European-Americans.
*********************
Liberated European-Americans…..
For most of my life…i have felt on the outside…that altho i am a citizen…i was not really a citizen…that ..every right…every freedom…was won with blood..sweat….and tears…
it was not till the President won that i ever considered flying a flag outside my window…that i truly said this is my country too….
by Langston Hughes
I, too, sing America.
I am the darker brother.
They send me to eat in the kitchen
When company comes,
But I laugh,
And eat well,
And grow strong.
Tomorrow,
I’ll be at the table
When company comes.
Nobody’ll dare
Say to me,
“Eat in the kitchen,”
Then.
Besides,
They’ll see how beautiful I am
And be ashamed—
“For most of my life…i have felt on the outside…that altho i am a citizen…i was not really a citizen…that ..every right…every freedom…was won with blood..sweat….and tears…
it was not till the President won that i ever considered flying a flag outside my window…that i truly said this is my country too….”
I can only hope, as we now begin to end the Civil War, an event that very much depended on the outcome of 6 Nov 2012, any other fellow Citizen whom has felt as you did, now realizes that America is truly their Country.
You guys are getting me all choked up. What an amazing group of brothers and sisters we have gathered here. You all make me proud to be in the human race. You all represent the best of us. Hugs and love to all of you.
Yes, very interesting! I had to print it and keep it. The part about the hurricane’s fury and the ghosts of those who had lost their lives in the Middle Passage was very…thought- provoking
I don’t want to gloat about POTUS re-election, but I know what kind of campaign Mitt Romney ran, and it was not a honorable one, it was a disgrace, from the lies to the racism, from the Republicans trying to suppress votes, from the MSM and the polls trying to help out Mitt, it is clear to see Mitt Romney and his campaign was disgraceful. I am not gloating, but I am dam happy the good side won. Obama/Biden
This is just the truth, Anniebella. The right wing (and their media cohorts) wanted to erase President Obama’s record and refused to give him the credit he deserves. Romney must own his own record of failure, and be given full credit for the disastrous and dishonorable campaign that he ran. Someone posted an article earlier, and the last line was about the biggest failure of Romney’s campaign being his loss of honor. This is true.
This was so cool – and I love how these young people relate to him. He’s just special. What a memento for this couple – it was one thing to meet on the President’s campaign team; quite another to actually relay the story of their engagement directly to him and have a picture taken the very day after the engagement! How wonderful. Good things happen around this man.
That blast in Indianapolis last night was horrible——and so far no cause reported. At 11:00 p.m. a massive explosion and fire, reduced 2 homes immediately to just pits and ashes, fire spread to neighboring homes blast felt miles away, 2 dead, unknown number injured, 31 homes said to be so damaged they will have to be demolished. Homeland Security has been there and ruled out a bomb or meth lab. I would think a gas leak might be the explanation, but they aren’t confirming that yet. A real rude awakening to that neighborhood, people running into the streets in pajamas carrying kids and pets, thought an airplane had crashed into a home there.
Officials say up to 31 Indianapolis homes may have to be demolished after blast that killed 2: apne.ws/ZqVrxr -RD— The Associated Press (@AP) November 11, 2012
Frank Rich gets on my nerves but he’s right about things in this tweet:
The gratuitous damage Netanyahu has inflicted on Israel by intruding in the US election is grave. Time for him to go nytimes.com/2012/11/08/wor…— Frank Rich (@frankrichny) November 08, 2012
‘;-
Congratssssssssssssss
i’M SITTIN GIN THE DARK. tHAT’S SUPPOSED TO BE ASMILE
That’s quite a unique smile, Mary! Congrats on first place. 😉
I was overcome with lust for first
I’ve been there…
Love
Not much better – trying for coherence on round three
This always happens after I leave a post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/11/remembering-3/#comment-561801
Thinking of you today Yardarm!
I know and I thank you for it.(smooches)!
Saluting you, Sir
Serious note: To all the vets and active duty service members on this blog, I salute you.
Frivolous note: I’m having my first cocktail in my new living room suite.
Carry on.
Aye,aye! Hoist one for me mate.
*cough cough* Saturday: 2-3
*cough cough* Sunday 1-1
Serve me a cocktail, right now
If Chelsea’s season was the superstitious sacrifice I had to make to have PBO re-elected and the Dems hold the Senate, I made it gladly!
And, the season is yet young, so hold off the celebrations, lass.
I’m going to try out a new recipe for a Manhattan, so you can be my guinea pig.
** Willing guinea pig **
I can just imagine the image you will serve to dear LL for that one, Chips
That’s me Bob!
One of your best evah, Chips!!
Ah, much better. 3 parts bourbon to 1 part sweet vermouth, with a splash of bitters. Heaven.
Hey man, we’re in the same time zone and I’ve got at least 3 h more work before I can have a glass of vino, so don’t rub it in!!!!
Hope you and the wife are enjoying a lovely day, LL.
Working on a Sunday? I know you’re a doctor, but jeez, that sucks. I’ll keep the cocktails chilled for you.
Oh, it’s not MD, we are building a new company and it’s been around the clock for 2+ years – http://www.myoonet.com
So kind of you to keep the cocktails chilled, LL. And, look forward to the day when we can toast in person, instead of virtually! Cheers!!!
I want to take the wife up to Seattle. We’ll have to get together then!
Looking forward to it!!!
LL add in a little bit of Triple Sec and make it really yummy.
eh, I’m a traditionalist when it comes to my Manhattans. And I have no triple sec anyway.
Sheesh Daisy, don’t encourage him – unless, of course, he’s prepared to share.
Yes, I could take a Manhattan right now.
Enjoy the new living room – cheers!
Nothing like new furniture to make you feel at home.
This is an interesting read. I am trying to reserve judgement on the Petraeus story, seems like it’s warranted to wait and see how it unfolds and what information comes to light.
The only judgement I want rigorously questioned is why Cantor failed to inform the House and Senate Leadership and the White House. Gen Petraeus will have to live with what he did for the remainder of his life, but my battle is with GOP already trying to twist the situation for political gain against our President. So, to the extent we can bring maximum exposure on Cantor and his failure to inform his colleagues and the White House, we should.
#FORWARD
More info on Cantor:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/11/15090315-fbi-agents-call-didnt-affect-petraeus-broadwell-probe-official-tells-nbc-news?lite
And we know anything out of Cantor’s mouth serves only Cantor and never the truth. Thanks Edwina for the link.
The entire media-military-industrial-complex will be spinning this thing every direction possible, except in the direction of the truth.
#FORWARD
Not defending cantor, bob. Guess ill just go back to posting tweets
Edwina, of course you aren’t! No ambiguity about that, for sure!
Didn’t sound like he was accusing you, Edwina3.
and before Cantor wasn’t informing his colleagues, how did Repub Rep. Reichert learn of this info and why did he inform just Cantor, and why Cantor? As the Chgo Trib quote states, extramarital affairs are common at all levels of the CIA—-isn’t that nice?—-and it sounds so far like a lovers’ triangle kind of deal—-Broadwell threatening Kelley because she saw her as a competitor for Petraeus’ affection—-I think any criticism from Congress about being kept in the dark should be directed to Cantor and Reichert. They presumably were the first and only members of Congress to be aware of the developing situation.
“I think any criticism from Congress about being kept in the dark should be directed to Cantor and Reichert. They presumably were the first and only members of Congress to be aware of the developing situation.”
Precisely, dotster. That’s why I’ve been pressing that issue in various tweets.
Putting all the behavior among consenting ‘adults’ aside, as this unfolds the timing indicates a highly probable scenario in which Reichert, Cantoer and perhaps other Rs, knowing that a security breach was not uncovered in the FBI investigation, and thinking that President Obama would be defeated, delayed flow of information. With President Obama defeated they might have been able to keep a lid on it because it is no secret that Petraeus was (way, way more than Jeb) the great white hope for the GOP in 2016 a la Ike. That all fell apart at ~ 820pm EST 6 Nov 2012 – for the good of the Nation, for sure.
#FORWARD
Remember these guys were in their own re-election fights. They probably didn’t want to have to deal with the media’s non-stop questions about Petreaus’ love triangle while their opponents were free to discuss policy and stuff. They let sleeping dogs lie until they were secure in their own re-election. Just imo.
Frankly I think the whole affair thing is none of our business. But if he compromised security and it appears he did not protecting his email account then good riddance. I’ve been pissed with his arrogant self ever since he decided to play kingmaker during the 2008 election by trying to make Sen McCain appear to be the more informed military person than Sen Obama on his visit to Capitol Hill during the election season. (McCain of course didn’t hold a candle to Senator Obama.)
And after that he made sure he got his way by going behind his Commander in Chief to the press to get POTUS to commit to the Afghan surge. That particular speech was the ONLY time I ever felt that POTUS wasn’t feeling true to the words he was saying (about the need for that surge). So good riddance to the self promoter media darling David Patraeus.
So are you saying he screwed us too?
Yeah, exactly. Guy gets around huh.
yeah, it’s a wonder that he’ll be able to walk to the congressional hearings, never mind taking a seat. then again, it can’t be easy carrying the weight of all those stars.
lmao. I think he’s one star short having Lost the Battle of the Bulge.
Bwhaaaa!! Good one.
If he testifies, he’ll be fawned over by Congress, just like that banker. They love “celebrities”, even if they’ve screwed over the American people. Congress has shown us where they think their bread is buttered, even though we’re the ones who pay their bills for them…
We want fawning in this case. The sooner we move off of this, the better. It’s just another attempt to keep beating that same old drum of trying to make Benghazi some sort of cover up. As I said earlier, the world, not just the US is on a cliff. There’s not much interest in this whole Benghazi stuff. We’ll see how long Petreaus and Benghazi stay on the front page.
Good point. I can’t believe that the GOP and the media (and their idiot followers) are still playing politics with this Benghazi tragedy. They have ignored facts to a fault.
The dance continues.
Wait, WHO are the “takers” again???
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/11/11/chart-ruh-roh-red-state-socialism-alert/
Thank you for the Veterans Day pictures from today’s remembrance at Arlington. My husband and son are both veterans, as was my father. My husband, Korea; my son the Cold War (Germany at the very end of the Soviet empire) and my father, World War II. I am extremely proud of all of them, as I am of all veterans.
I appreciate President Obama’s solemn respect for our veterans.
Thanks again for this wonderful place, and thanks to all of you TODers. I have learned so much from your links, and messages.
LL, you said you were germinating a piece about the election…….I’m waiting!
Carolyn, please extend my gratitude to your husband and son for their service. Thank you!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021792260
Hahahahahaha.
Olive Garden is own by RWNJ?????
Yep, they’re threatening to lay off folks because of Obama’s re-election and Obamacare.
Oh well, no more Olive Garden for me… There’s a hell of a lot of places I no longer patronize!
What Awsomeee pics….
Don’t necessarily like Roland Martin, but this is awesome!
great visual of what a giant giant spanking mandate looks like!
In picture number six, I loooooooooooooove FLOTUS shoes.
That’s as high a heel as I’ve ever seen her wear. Looks good.
cute, practical, and i bet her legs are warm in those tights!
…………………slashing at their drooping, fetid empty scrotums in most cases…….
I thought this was an interesting read from a local paper in my native country.
http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/OpEdColumnists/MuniiniMulera/Obama–Hurricane-Sandy–avenge-America-s-pain/-/878676/1617452/-/yfwmmhz/-/index.html
Thank you. That is a really interesting point of view. I think deeply embedded racial feelings are behind a lot of people’s inability to credit President Obama for his re-election.
Woww…..poignant…
esp this…
Obama’s virulent opponents – The Tea Party, the Citizens United, the Birthers and so on – were driven by the pain of watching an African American sitting in a chair that had been occupied by some of the most revered European Americans of the last 200 years.
It was a contest between a past when the master and the slave knew their respective places, and a present and future where millions of Americans had embraced Martin Luther King Junior’s dream of a nation of racial equality.
Obama’s re-lection has shown, once again, that he is at the head of a new generation of Americans of all races that have vanquished the folly of apartheid and slavery. The ground troops who worked tirelessly to get him re-elected were predominantly European-American..
While it is true that he was the choice of the vast majority of the minority voters, he would never have won without the votes of tens of millions of liberated European-Americans.
*********************
Liberated European-Americans…..
For most of my life…i have felt on the outside…that altho i am a citizen…i was not really a citizen…that ..every right…every freedom…was won with blood..sweat….and tears…
it was not till the President won that i ever considered flying a flag outside my window…that i truly said this is my country too….
by Langston Hughes
I, too, sing America.
I am the darker brother.
They send me to eat in the kitchen
When company comes,
But I laugh,
And eat well,
And grow strong.
Tomorrow,
I’ll be at the table
When company comes.
Nobody’ll dare
Say to me,
“Eat in the kitchen,”
Then.
Besides,
They’ll see how beautiful I am
And be ashamed—
I, too, am America
What a sad, hopeful, defiant and beautiful poem.
You touched me deeply with this, pf …
“For most of my life…i have felt on the outside…that altho i am a citizen…i was not really a citizen…that ..every right…every freedom…was won with blood..sweat….and tears…
it was not till the President won that i ever considered flying a flag outside my window…that i truly said this is my country too….”
I can only hope, as we now begin to end the Civil War, an event that very much depended on the outcome of 6 Nov 2012, any other fellow Citizen whom has felt as you did, now realizes that America is truly their Country.
#TrustBarack
Yes We Did
Bobfr, you are my hero, you are my brother citizen. I am so thankful that you are sharing your wonderful talents here for all of us. Thank you.
Oh, Marilyn, that is very kind of you to say. I’m just grateful to be part of this fine community!
#FORWARD
yes….Bob….
allllllllll those blk folks….who stood in line with their fellow citizens for hours…said….this is my country too….ty for your kindness…
You guys are getting me all choked up. What an amazing group of brothers and sisters we have gathered here. You all make me proud to be in the human race. You all represent the best of us. Hugs and love to all of you.
ty..DF…TY
Yes, very interesting! I had to print it and keep it. The part about the hurricane’s fury and the ghosts of those who had lost their lives in the Middle Passage was very…thought- provoking
Love her shoes and her bag, her dad and this pic!!!
Ya just love it all, Lisa!
Ohhhh, I love her shoes. *Wants*.
They’re very, well, bright BWD – I’d just be afraid a plane would land on me. The bag, though, *Wants*!
i so love to see him with his girls….it warms my heart so
I don’t want to gloat about POTUS re-election, but I know what kind of campaign Mitt Romney ran, and it was not a honorable one, it was a disgrace, from the lies to the racism, from the Republicans trying to suppress votes, from the MSM and the polls trying to help out Mitt, it is clear to see Mitt Romney and his campaign was disgraceful. I am not gloating, but I am dam happy the good side won. Obama/Biden
Now let me go listen to POTUS election night speech again, I love seeing the First Family walk out.
This is just the truth, Anniebella. The right wing (and their media cohorts) wanted to erase President Obama’s record and refused to give him the credit he deserves. Romney must own his own record of failure, and be given full credit for the disastrous and dishonorable campaign that he ran. Someone posted an article earlier, and the last line was about the biggest failure of Romney’s campaign being his loss of honor. This is true.
Cute story about how two staffers at OFA HQ got engaged:
This was so cool – and I love how these young people relate to him. He’s just special. What a memento for this couple – it was one thing to meet on the President’s campaign team; quite another to actually relay the story of their engagement directly to him and have a picture taken the very day after the engagement! How wonderful. Good things happen around this man.
That blast in Indianapolis last night was horrible——and so far no cause reported. At 11:00 p.m. a massive explosion and fire, reduced 2 homes immediately to just pits and ashes, fire spread to neighboring homes blast felt miles away, 2 dead, unknown number injured, 31 homes said to be so damaged they will have to be demolished. Homeland Security has been there and ruled out a bomb or meth lab. I would think a gas leak might be the explanation, but they aren’t confirming that yet. A real rude awakening to that neighborhood, people running into the streets in pajamas carrying kids and pets, thought an airplane had crashed into a home there.
terrrible. holding the victims in my prayers.
Amen
Frank Rich gets on my nerves but he’s right about things in this tweet:
New post – thank you Meta!!
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/11/telling-the-president-how-we-got-engaged/
Finally an answer to the whole Gen. Petraeus debacle:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/11/petraeus-started-affair-last-year-to-cover-up-benghazi-says-conspiracy-theorist.html?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(50)