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Chat away

(Cheer up Rusty)

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President Barack Obama talks with Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel in the Oval Office, Nov. 16, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

@VP

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Nick Anderson

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Cagle

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‘The Other Side of That Victory Hug’

Slate (Thank you FoxfireTX)

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Sorry everyone, got a bit busy today so I’m waaaaaaaaay behind the news. What did I miss?!


383 Responses to “Chat away”


  1. 46 vcprezofan2
    November 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Hey Chips Chica, am I to assume you have finally taken our advice to rest your fingers ankle today? Good Gurl!

    • November 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm

      Hellooooooo Aunty VC! Fingers well rested today, excellent advice as ever :-)

      • 48 vcprezofan2
        November 16, 2012 at 6:52 pm

        :lol: :lol: I’m glad to hear you are rested and actually feel quite proud of you!

        BTW: Aunty VC? While I’m not averse to being ‘auntied’, do you think you could add ‘YOUNG’ before that? The title paints such an old picture of me otherwise that it shouldn’t be left unattended.

  2. 49 utaustinliberal
    November 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Boehner must be mad he’s missing his weekly meeting with his fellow Oompa Lumpas.

  3. 52 utaustinliberal
    November 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    • November 16, 2012 at 6:37 pm

      Hi UT, just added a pic of PBO and Rahm from today.

      • 54 utaustinliberal
        November 16, 2012 at 6:40 pm

        Woot! Great minds. Looooove Rahm “Rahmbo” Emanuel. He’s so bloody wonderful on Sunday news shows. He doesn’t pause to take a breath or allow the useless MSM to interrupt him with their talking points. He was fantastic throughout the election cycle.

  4. 55 daisydem
    November 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    I have two prevailing thoughts about today … one: McCain has to be taken down/out. Seriously, he must. Second, I am now scared to death that the prevailing “sex scandal” has now reached the White House just (so far) in the sense that the players in this sordid affair have been to the WH and recently? Why? What is happening? Can (we) not have at least four years to just work together on this country without drama of this sort?

    • 56 anniebella
      November 16, 2012 at 6:44 pm

      daisydem, let’s not worry about nothing. Explain to me how it has reach the WH and why it concerns you. I don’t get it.

      • November 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm

        That cow from Tampa was found to have visited the White House 4 times during this administration. Seriously…people lost their jobs at Wonder Bread and innocent people are dying in Palestine to prop up the chances for re-election for Bibi. Those are very real problems.

    • November 16, 2012 at 6:46 pm

      Think about all the *real* bad stuff this President has had to deal with in the previous 4 years and ask yourself if any of this even remotely rises to that level for one, and if the President can handle it? Based on his past performance, I’d say: He’s got this and any other damn thing that comes down the pike.

    • November 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm

      Let’s remember, until the scandal unfolded, Mrs Petraeus was personal friends with the Kelley’s and had been so for several years. Given her various roles in supporting military families and the enormous commitment to that endeavor the First Lady and Dr Biden have made over the past 4 years, it would not surprise me that that is at least in part why they had access to the White House – they were attending various functions as supporters of military families. Also, 1000s of people attend events at the White House every year.

      • 60 Alycee (@jazziz2)
        November 16, 2012 at 6:58 pm

        Bob, it lower level than that — she was visiting a WH staffer (military staffer that had previously been stationed in Tampa); never had dealing with PBO, VP, FLOTUS, SLOTUS, or executive staff. Had a couple of meals in the WH Mess w/her MilStaff friend. No big deal.

        • November 16, 2012 at 7:18 pm

          Correct, Alycee! Thank you!!!

        • 63 dotster3
          November 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm

          Except that she somehow weaseled her way into talks/briefings re. Pakistan and Afghanistan. On what basis was she qualified for that? Great parties for the military brass? And 3 visits? or 4? That’s ridiculous. That’s not just a courtesy tour. That staffer showed really poor judgment and allowed himself to be conned. Was she emailing him too? He should be gone.

          • 64 Alycee (@jazziz2)
            November 16, 2012 at 7:51 pm

            No, that was Broadhurst that attended one briefing on Afghanistan at the Old Executive Office Building (across the street from the WH)

            • 65 dotster3
              November 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm

              Oh sorry—you’re right—–it was Broadwell. Don’t know why she qualified to sit in on foreign policy meetings either, other than her close—ahem—- relationship with Petraeus, which shouldn’t have qualified her for that kind of policy briefing either. I heard today that she had fudged—-overinflated her resume—-never got her PHD etc.—–which she has been including in her lists of —uh—accomplishments. These gals are something else. The Kelley gal was emailing the Tampa mayor saying she was just coming from breakfast at the WH, trying to make it sound like it was something it wasn’t—–and that everyone there was really tense before the election, like she was besties with everyone there. Piece of work.

              • 66 Obama Grandmama
                November 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm

                In talking with my daughter who is working in Germany at present I found out she was shocked by the affair business. She went to grad school in Denver with Paula Broadwell and they have been good friends. Paula is very accomplished and has worked in high level government. It is too bad she got involved in the affair as my daughter says she has a wonderful family. When I heard my daughter talk about her and her involvements in charity work and her career I saw a different side of the picture. My daughter is not a bad judge of character. Not trying to tout Paula Broadwell here but saying there are different perspectives on things.

            • 67 Alycee (@jazziz2)
              November 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm

              make that Broadwell…

  5. 68 Nena20409
    November 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Didn’t the Mayor see pres Obama the week before the election……when pres Obama went to Chicago to vote early? Then the Mayor saw the pres last week the day before the election…..I am guessing and on the 11-06-12? And now, the the mayor is at the White House today? Is the Mayor wanting to come back to the White House…….lol?

    Or

    ‘Am I connecting too many dots here?

  6. 71 vitaminlover
    November 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Noticing the body language between President Obama and Mayor Emmanuel-open and trusting. Now the language in the picture between President Obama and Orange Julius at the desk- Obama is away and excluding by not facing him, his shoulders are turn away from bonehead at that table. Just noticin’.

  7. November 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm

  8. 90 squarepeg
    November 16, 2012 at 6:59 pm

      • 92 joanshaw
        November 16, 2012 at 10:19 pm

        I have often looked at Soledad, at her photos, but never watched any of her programs or videos, but thought nevertheless that she’s no pushover. There’s something about her expression that should warn anyone intent on obfuscating ANYTHING to stay away, stay far, far away. Now I can see what the dunces should fear — she’s great at killing them gently.

      • 93 susanne
        November 17, 2012 at 3:30 am

        wow–she’s relentless, and also very skillful. brava! didn’t even have to deliver the final blow–hack admitted his issue was not with susan rice but with the president. so the listener connects the dots, that the president was correct that the rethugs are bashing her to hurt him.

      • 94 Obama Grandmama
        November 17, 2012 at 3:48 pm

        Shrewd lady. She has shown through this election that she is capable of interviewing someone trying to spin and able to trap them in their own words time and time again.
        Seems to me the GOP is setting traps both ways at all times. Using a timeline to criticize if info is not put forth soon enough and again if the info is wrong and has to be adjusted.
        What I would like to know is who did he think had better information to present on the Sunday talk shows? The information was still coming forward and the President does not do Sunday talk shows. PBO and SOS Clinton were too busy trying to find out what was happening to take time for the shows.

  9. 96 lamh36
    November 16, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Just saw James Bond Skyfall. It was great. If you are a fan if the whole series with all the Bonds, you’ll love the momentos. If u just love the modern series you’ll still love it. I think it’s the best of the Daniel Craig series

  10. November 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm

  11. November 16, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Be still, my raging heart! Every time I see VP Biden, my heartbeat speeds up. Dr. Jill is a very lucky woman. Hubba, hubba.

  12. November 16, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    This is really uplifting after that doofus Republican Govenor. Meet the black, gay, organic farmer who won a seat in the Maine’s House of Representatives.

  13. 110 Claire
    November 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Just finished up my Christmas shopping this evening. I almost went into the Macy’s to get my sister’s gift. Thought of the dump Trump campaign and took my business to Nordstrom instead.

  14. 123 FoxfireTX
    November 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Reposting from last thread because it is soooo cute!

    Good evening peeps! Remember the now famous photo of the Obamas the campaign tweeted out election night? For your FRIDAY afternoon treat, here is the OTHER side of the photo of Michelle’s face taken from the other side of the stage. I love it. As the article notes, fortunately she looks as happy to be holding him again:-) Enjoy!

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2012/11/16/most_liked_photo_of_all_time_michelle_and_obama_s_victory_hug_from_the_other.html

  15. 129 yardarm756
    November 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    By request of nath and others. Notice the styles of WWII

    • 130 desertflower
      November 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm

      Ah! You’re still here:) Thought that you’d be getting ready to go on your cruise! Have fun and have a relaxing and wonderful Thanksgiving….take it easy at the casino, unless you win big and can get us all to the Inauguration or something:) Have fun!!

    • November 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      I’m going to miss your posts, Yardarm while you’re on your cruise. Take care. Enjoy your trip and be sure to inform us when you’re back at your TOD duty station. LOL.

    • 134 nathkatun7
      November 16, 2012 at 7:58 pm

      Bless you sailor! Thanks for interrupting your cruise plan to share C- Jam Blues. This is one of the Duke’s song that I remember my oldest brother, a veteran of WWII, used to play over and over again on the phonograph (sometimes called by the trade name gramophone) when I was about 10 or 11 years old. It was listening to tunes like this that made me fall in love with Jazz. I hope you have a wonderful cruise.

    • 136 dudette9t9
      November 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm

      Well done Sailor! That’s the good, GOOD stuff! Got me inspired! :-)

  16. November 16, 2012 at 7:27 pm

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  18. November 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    The White House has joined SoundCloud:

    So if you want to listen to speeches and remarks, it’s going to show up there.

  19. 161 xtine
    November 16, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    On Rev Al’s show guy said: McCain losing Committee Chair & that’s why he needs a special committee to investigate Libya so he has some relevance & appear on Sunday shows. He has nowhere to go for relevance!

  20. November 16, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Chips – some excellent Steve Benen here ….

    Petraeus takes the wind from conspiracy theorists’ sails
    By Steve Benen

    Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST

    In the week since former CIA Director David Petraeus announced his resignation, the right has come up with a variety of colorful conspiracy theories, all of which have been debunked. Was his sex scandal hidden from public view to boost President Obama’s re-election prospects? No. Was the White House blackmailing him? No. Did he step down to avoid congressional testimony on Benghazi? No.

    But over the last day or so, the right has stumbled upon a new micro-scandal: the original CIA draft materials referenced specific suspected terrorists, but their names were removed and replaced with the word “extremist” in the final draft.

    “A ha!” the conspiracy theorists proclaim. “This proves Obama’s people hid key details! It’s clear evidence of … something!” It’s really not.

    More at link: http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/16/15222812-petraeus-takes-the-wind-from-conspiracy-theorists-sails

  21. November 16, 2012 at 8:02 pm

  22. 175 xtine
    November 16, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Excuse typos, on smartphone. Col. Wilkerson & Rep. Van Hollen on Ed show. Waiting for them!

    • 176 0388jojothecat
      November 16, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      Col Wilkerson is on fire and blasting the GOP witch hunters. Speaking truth to the lies that McCain and his girl friend Lindsey are spewing.

      • 177 anniebella
        November 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm

        I have become a fan of this Col. Wilkerson, he said that Barbara Bush gave some advice to the Republicans, she said they won, get over it. Hear that Republicans.

        • 178 theo67
          November 16, 2012 at 10:26 pm

          She’s probably trying to smooth the waters so that her precious other son can begin his doomed presidential campaign. Unless he’s going to follow Jermaine Jackson (I mean, Jacksun)’s lead, then he might as well abandon those plans. If this country nominates and elects another Bush – especially one who wants to deny any culpability for his brother’s actions – then… I don’t know.

  23. 179 prettyfoot58
    November 16, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Who does the CIA answer to……..

  24. November 16, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    By Samuel Rubenfeld

    The U.S. said Friday it implemented an announced easing on imports from Myanmar as the long-isolated country continues its rapid thaw in iced relations with Washington.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/11/16/us-eases-myanmar-import-ban-ahead-of-obama-visit/

  25. 183 vitaminlover
    November 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Boy, sure do like the way Col. Wilkerson called out the Republican party. it is a true case of sour grapes. He was on point.

  26. 186 dotster3
    November 16, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    A box of Twinkies is going for 100 bucks on ebay. Store shelves have been wiped bare. I think I read that Twinkies have a very long shelf life, like decades, or something. Buy now, you’ll have them for life. You can enjoy one on your very last day. Something to look forward to.

    • 187 theo67
      November 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm

      Oh dear – LOL! I used to crave twinkies about once a year, and I just had to have them. I’d get a little pack of two, and love them. Then, when I saw some program about how they took days to dissolve in some solution, and how they basically have a shelf life of “forever”, I never touched one again. That’s not food. That’s something else, entirely. But, I still do crave them every once in a while…

  27. 188 yardarm756
    November 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Time for a break and a weekend laugh. Some more e-mails

    Subj: Twenty Dollars

    On their wedding night, the young bride approached her new husband and asked
    for $20.00 for their first lovemaking encounter. In his highly aroused
    state, her husband readily agreed. This scenario was repeated each time they
    made love, for more than 40 years, with him thinking that it was a cute way
    for her to afford new clothes and other incidentals that she needed.

    Arriving home around noon one day, she was surprised to find her husband in
    a very drunken state. During the next few minutes, he explained that his
    employer was going through a process of corporate downsizing, and he had
    been let go. It was unlikely that, at the age of 59, he’d be able to find
    another position that paid anywhere near what he’d been earning, and
    therefore, they were financially ruined.

    Calmly, his wife handed him a bank book which showed more than forty years
    of steady deposits and interest totaling nearly $1 million. Then she

    showed
    him certificates of deposits issued by the bank which were worth over $2
    million, and informed him that they were one of the largest depositors in
    the bank.

    She explained that for more than three decades she had ‘charged’ him for
    sex, these holdings had multiplied and these were the Results of her savings
    and investments.

    Faced with evidence of cash and investments worth over $3 million, her
    husband was so astounded he could barely speak, but finally he found his
    voice and blurted out, ‘If I’d had any idea what you were doing, I would
    have given you all my business!’

    That’s when she shot him.

    You know, sometimes, men just don’t know when to keep their mouths shut!

    Women are like phones: They like to be held, talked to, and touched often.
    But push the wrong button and you’re a$$ is disconnected!

  28. November 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I hope Michele Flournoy returns to a good position in the next administration. She is really good.

  29. 194 FoxfireTX
    November 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Just saw the clip from Morning Joe where Christie said Romney is very upset about losing the election. Hmmmmm…finally came across something he couldn’t buy! Ya know, I am usually not a mean person but I have to admit that I am delighted every time I hear this. I was TERRIFIED about what would happen to this country if he won. I have never felt that way about any candidate previously (although I was pretty concerned by Palin). I look at him as a person and still believe he is the most unpatriotic, hollow, ruthless candidate in my lifetime. But it sure kept me motivated!

    • 195 theo67
      November 16, 2012 at 10:41 pm

      I am thrilled that Romney is finding it hard to accept that he lost. It proves just how empty and lacking integrity he is that he can’t understand why his fellow Americans didn’t like being lied to and being called moochers. I hope he spends the rest of his days stewing in his confusion over his loss. The fact that he had the gall to run for President is bad enough.

  30. 196 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    This is FUN!!!

  31. November 16, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Looking for details of POTUS’ trip to Asia. So far, a general description:

    From Saturday to Sunday, Obama visits Bangkok to meet Thailand’s king and its first female prime minister, Yingluck Shinawatra. The country is among America’s oldest allies in Asia, but tensions exist, including disagreement over the U.S.-led Trans-Pacific Partnership that Thailand may join, and Thailand’s refusal to allow NASA to use an airfield for atmospheric monitoring.

    On Monday, Air Force One makes its maiden flight to Rangoon, Burma, also known as Myanmar, to start the first visit by a sitting U.S. president. The White House, which eased trade sanctions in recent months against this once-pariah regime, has come under fire from human rights groups for visiting Burma while ethnic conflicts continue, and rights abuses remain widespread.

    Obama will give a speech on democracy and meet both President Thein Sein and Aung San Suu Kyi, the opposition leader and democracy icon who is now a sitting MP, although Burma’s parliament remains rigged to ensure the ruling party and military hold sway.

    • November 16, 2012 at 8:40 pm

      There’s also the Summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Cambodia somewhere in there.

      • 200 jacquelineoboomer
        November 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm

        All to the good. I would love to understand more about President Obama’s strategic thinking that’s behind his foreign trips for the next four years.

  32. 201 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:37 pm

  33. 202 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    So what happened in the y’day’s ‘fiscal cliff’ meeting ? Did the thugs jump off the cliff yet ?

  34. 205 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:39 pm

  35. 206 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:39 pm

  36. 207 dotster3
    November 16, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Great letter from a guy in Idaho who moved to Ohio for the month before the election to help GOTV, telling about his experience of all the people who came together there to make sure democracy would survive—–estimated 50,000 on the ground there.

  37. 209 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:40 pm

  38. 210 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm

  39. 211 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    In Jerusalem, a CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Wailing Wall to pray, twice a day, everyday, for a long, long time. So she went to check it out. She went to the Wailing Wall and there he was!

    She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, she approached him for an interview.

    “I’m Rebecca Smith from CNN. Sir, how long have you been coming to the Wall and praying?”

    “For about 60 years.”

    “60 years! That’s amazing! What do you pray for?”

    “I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims. I pray for all the hatred to stop and I pray for all our children to grow up in safety and friendship.”

    “How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?”

    “Like I’m talking to a fuckin’ wall.”

    • November 16, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      Oooooh, just perfect for the days that are in it. I used to think if Ireland could get peace (kind of), then maybe Israel/Palestine could too. But, it’s further away than ever. Grim.

  40. 213 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    A lonely frog, desperate for some form of company telephoned the Psychic Hotline to find out what his future holds. His Personal Psychic Advisor tells him, “You are going to meet a beautiful young girl who will want to know everything about you.”

    The frog is thrilled and says, “This is great! Where will I meet her, at work, at a party?”

    “No” says the psychic, “in a Biology class.”

  41. 217 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    A blind guy on a bar stool shouts to the bartender: “Wanna hear a blonde joke?”

    In a hushed voice, the guy next to him says: “Before you tell that joke, you should know something. Our bartender is blonde, the bouncer is blonde. I’m a 6′ tall, 200 lb black belt. The guy sitting next to me is 6’2”, weighs 225, and he’s a rugby player. The fella to your right is 6’5” pushing 300 and he’s a wrestler. Each one of us is blonde. Think about it, mister. Do you still want to tell that joke?”

    The blind guy says: “Not if I’m going to explain it five times.”

  42. 226 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    So Burma seems to be back into the world again, thanks to that kenyan muslin. What next, north korea?

  43. 231 terim
    November 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Sen. Harry Reid’s letter to John McCain: I refuse to allow the Senate to be used as a venue for baseless partisan attacks.

    • 232 COS
      November 16, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      I think the Democrats were listening closely to Gov. Patrick Duval’s speech at the DNC. It appears that they are finally growing a pair. :) I was really impressed with the Senator who defended Amb. Rice and PBO this week. I don’t remember his name.

  44. November 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Meet the Press: Lindsey Graham, Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers, David Cote, Raul Labrador, Tom Friedman, John Podesta, Mike Murphy, Andrea Mitchell

    Face the Nation: John McCain, Dick Durbin, Olympia Snowe, David Ignatius, Thomas Ricks, Margaret Brennan, Bob Orr, Maya MacGuineas, Mark Zandi

    This Week: Nancy Pelosi, Carl Levin, Peter King, Xavier Becerra, Newt Gingrich, George Will, Donna Brazile, Jonathan Karl

    I know you could say the same for a whole bunch of these people, but seriously, how the **** is Gingrich relevant now??

    • 235 forus50
      November 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm

      4 years in a row of not watching the carnival barkers. What a silly charade that is. I only hope that the younger generation will never see these shows as useful or interesting and they will go the way of the 8 track.

    • 236 yardarm756
      November 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm

      He’s Flush Limpaw’s doppleganger.

  45. November 16, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    From the White House:

    “Prime Minister Netanyahu called the President today to provide an update on the situation in Israel and Gaza. The Prime Minister expressed his deep appreciation to the President and the American people for the United States’ investment in the Iron Dome rocket and mortar defense system, which has effectively defeated hundreds of incoming rockets from Gaza and saved countless Israeli lives. 

    “The President reiterated U.S. support for Israel’s right to defend itself, and expressed regret over the loss of Israeli and Palestinian civilian lives. The two leaders discussed options for de-escalating the situation.”

    • 238 jacquelineoboomer
      November 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Sounds good to me, Mr. President.

    • 239 yardarm756
      November 16, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Check your pockets Mr. President. What does that ‘backstabber’ want now?

    • 241 Lorraine
      November 16, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      Nobody messes with Israel and gets away with it.

      • 242 utaustinliberal
        November 16, 2012 at 11:27 pm

        Oh please. Let’s not pretend Israel doesn’t have it’s own problems and isn’t a fucking bully. Both sides need to act like adults and Israel is not innocent in this catastrophic mess.

      • 244 cluny
        November 17, 2012 at 9:16 am

        Personally I loathe Netanyahu. What he is doing is disgraceful and what is most distressing is that it is a repeat of what happened just before the last elections in Israel. He’s ginning up support for his re election and the US has to sit back and let Israel do whatever it wants. This will not end well – above all for the poor Palestinians and secondly for US national security. Only in the uS does Israel enjoy such staunch support – the rest of the world sees Israel for the ugly bully it has become. It’s the only thing I do not admire about PBO – letting Israel do as it pleases because strong pushback threatens support for Democratic party. It’s cowardly and that is a fact.

      • November 17, 2012 at 9:56 am

        Hmm, no thoughts for the kids slaughtered in Gaza by Israeli rockets?

    • 246 theo67
      November 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      Personally, I’m very distressed over all the innocent lives being carelessly used as pawns in this conflict. I cynically feel that Netanyahu is using this to cover up his indiscretions during the campaign, and to force the President to reiterate his support of Netanyahu and his nefarious schemes. I’m not sure why there has to be a ground game when Israel has an iron dome to protect them, and a far superior suite of weapons – why do they need to go into the streets? How is this different from Syria? I know this is a very sensitive topic, so I really don’t expect a response from everyone. But, this whole situation is making my stomach hurt, and just seems so unnecessary – on both sides. A life gets snuffed out in a second. I’d have more sympathy for Netanyahu feeling that he’s got no other options if he had made even the slightest effort to adhere to the settlement restrictions and participate honestly in the peace talks. I’ll leave it there.

  46. 251 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Nate Silver sez it’s unlikely that the dems will win the house majority in 2014. Let’s prove him wrong. The prez and DNC should seriously start targeting some vulnerable rethug seats. We even frigging won a senate and a congress seat even in frigging deep red Utah. There were many repub house races where the dems didn’t even put up a candidate in 2012. /eyeroll.

    • 252 hopefruit2
      November 16, 2012 at 9:16 pm

      Last year at this time, Little Nate also said that PBO was “toast.”

    • 256 forus50
      November 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm

      The gerrymandering (done by both sides dependent on who controls the state legislature) is a killer. In Illinois there were many seats where Dems ran unopposed so that’s just the reality of gerrymandering. It’s like expecting to find a Boston Red Sox fan in Manhattan. Turning a district is difficult and I think the Dems did it in any district that had any potential. It is probably going to be harder in 2014 than 2012…I just don’t know how it’s going to happen unfortunately.

      However having the Senate and Presidency for 4 years will protect the Supreme Court, Obamacare, Dodd Frank and all the other recent legislation and probably getting some new legislation through. Forward is still possible.

      • 257 amk for obama
        November 16, 2012 at 9:33 pm

        I get that. But there are many still vulnerable repubs – batshit crazy bachmann is one – where the dems lost by whisker. Dems should go bold and go big. If they can flip the entire MN house and senate in 2012, then they can at least make a big effort in other so called red fortresses.

    • 259 cookemom
      November 16, 2012 at 9:23 pm

      Nate’s probably referring to the fact that a lot of those Repub Governors, State Houses and Senates were able to re-draw the voting district maps. They all but guarantee a Repub win for most of those states. I think, like Utah there’s got to be a very intense and local GOTV effort. Then get ready for Blue Dogs again, who many feel are better than the alternative. They weren’t very reliable though.

  47. 262 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    One question: How much money is still left in 2012 Obama war chest ? And What happens to it ?

    Ok, that’s two questions.

  48. 265 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm

  49. November 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Hi everyone. Missed you all. Work has kept me totally out of the loop. Will now play catch-up.

  50. 269 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm

  51. November 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    On Saturday morning, the President will depart the White House en route Bangkok, Thailand. The departure from the South Lawn will be open press.

    On Sunday, the President will arrive in Bangkok, Thailand. The arrival of Air Force One at Don Mueang International Airport will be open press.

    In the afternoon, the President will visit Wat Pho Royal Monastery. There will be travel pool coverage of this visit.

    Later, the President will receive a Royal Audience with King Bhumibol Adulyadej at Siriraj Hospital. This visit will be covered by official photographers and a limited pool only.

    The President will then travel to the Thai Koo Fah Building and take part in a formal welcome ceremony and sign a guest book. There will be pre-positioned pool press coverage of the welcome ceremony and travel pool coverage of the guest book signing at the Government House.

    Afterwards, the President will meet with Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra of Thailand. There will be a travel pool spray at the top of the meeting.

    In the evening, the President and Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra will hold a joint press conference. This press conference will be open press.

    Later in the evening, the President will attend an official dinner with Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra of Thailand. There will be travel pool coverage of the toasts at the dinner.

    Later, the President will meet and greet with United States Embassy personnel at Chulalongkorn University. This visit is closed press.

    The President will spend the night in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Saturday’s In-Town Travel Pool
    Wires: AP, Reuters, Bloomberg
    Wire Photos: AP, Reuters, AFP
    TV Corr & Crew: CBS
    Print: USA Today
    Radio: SRN

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/16/weekend-guidance-and-press-schedule-saturday-november-17-2012-and-sunday

  52. 273 lisalovesobama
    November 16, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Lawrence is ON!!!!!!

  53. 274 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm

  54. 275 yardarm756
    November 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    It’s late and I gotta go,but I leave you jazz lovers with the first LP to sell a million copies.

  55. 280 hopefruit2
    November 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm

  56. 283 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Guess I’ll catch the re-run @11:00 pm…

    https://twitter.com/BlackChuckTodd/status/269638578093555713

  57. 285 vitaminlover
    November 16, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Father, thank You for protecting President Obama on the way and during and on the way back from his Burma, Asian tour. Thank You, Sir for always guiding, guarding and protecting not only him but also his entire staff. Let him be in the righ places at the right times. Thank You for giving him Your wisdom and insight. Let him be a blessing to the people of Burma and received with welcoming arms. Thank You that the angels keep strong watch over him and his entire staff and that this whole trip is in peace and love , in Jesus Mighty Name Amen!

  58. 292 GGail
    November 16, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Yardarm & Amk’s jokes are funny tonight :lol:

  59. 293 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    A pastor, known for his lengthy sermons, noticed a man get up and leave during the middle of his message. The man returned just before the conclusion of the service. Afterwards the pastor asked the man where he had gone.

    “I went to get a haircut,” was the reply.

    “But,” said the pastor, “why didn’t you do that before the service?”

    “Because,” the gentleman said, “I didn’t need one then.”

  60. 294 hopefruit2
    November 16, 2012 at 10:24 pm

  61. 300 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Wife: “Where do you want to go for our anniversary?”

    Husband: “Somewhere I have never been!”

    Wife hands over a gym membership.

  62. 301 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    How many men does it take to open a beer?

    None. It should be opened by the time she brings it.

    And I am outta here.

  63. 305 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  64. 310 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 10:48 pm

  65. 313 prettyfoot58
    November 16, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Lawrence just did a great piece on Patreas….i do not have UTs recap abilities…but it is worth watching…

  66. 316 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:03 pm

  67. 317 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:08 pm

  68. 319 amk for obama
    November 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Obama vs the vulture capitalist bot

    US total = 63,718,291 to 59,815,305

    Swing states = 22,728,846 to 21,014,793

    Non-swing states = 40,989,445 to 38,800,512

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE&toomany=true&pli=1&pli=1

  69. 321 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Hmmm, mixed feelings on this one. Appreciate the artistry though… What do you think?

    • 322 theo67
      November 16, 2012 at 11:39 pm

      I’m against it because of the title of the piece. There’s no luck involved – hard work, earnestness, good policy. People who think this was about luck have never had to do anything really hard.

  70. 323 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:21 pm

  71. 324 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:28 pm

  72. 326 dudette9t9
    November 16, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Gotta hop, guys! Leaving you with a little Dinah…

    Love you Dears!

    • 327 Kreen
      November 16, 2012 at 11:49 pm

      So dudette how did u like Scandal last night? I am so upset Liv gave into the senator!!!! I want her with Fitz and no one else!!!! That was an awesome episode!

      • 328 theo67
        November 17, 2012 at 12:19 am

        I haven’t watched last night’s Scandal yet, but I’m glad she’s moving on from that Fitz. He seems like a poor character of a man – he’s mean to his wife, he’s cheating on her, and he’s using Liv like a piece of meat. She deserves better.

  73. 329 a4alice
    November 17, 2012 at 12:26 am

    I’m hoping that we can prove Nate Silver wrong and turn the House Blue in 2014!

    • 330 57andFemale
      November 17, 2012 at 7:10 am

      It was also ‘unlikely’ two years out that we would keep the Senate, and unthinkable that we would add to our majority.

      Repubs redistricted with a vengeance (do they know how to do anything without vengeance?) because Dem’s didn’t vote in 2010. God, I hope we’ve learned our lesson.

      But we can STILL win the House in 2014. We won some serious races this races. If the party, the President and ALL OF US keep the momentum going (the way Republicans do) we’ll retake the House in 2014. And be on our way to returning public discourse to sanity and some truth, and start to be able to govern again.

  74. 332 amk for obama
    November 17, 2012 at 2:36 am

  75. 333 amk for obama
    November 17, 2012 at 2:37 am

  76. November 17, 2012 at 7:00 am

    So, the Presidents weekly address said that everybody’s taxes will go up if taxes on the wealthy don’t go up.
    Then, Ayiotte weekly address is nobody’s taxes should go up.
    Ok! Sounds really concilatory to me. Not!

    • 337 collegekay
      November 17, 2012 at 7:03 am

      If they all go up, the Republicans will be blamed.

      • November 17, 2012 at 7:39 am

        The Republucans are looking at March, where the Givernment runs out of money and we have to raise the debt ceiling.
        The might shut down the government at tha time, it’s what their constituents want.
        I don’t trust them, they have something else planned.
        Just saying!

    • November 17, 2012 at 7:16 am

      Reid and Boehner split over timing for deficit-reduction deal
      Alexander Bolton – 11/17/12 06:00 AM ET
      Democrats want to strike an agreement now. Republicans say a broad package would be too complex to finish soon.…

      -

      The Republicans are not cooperating at all!

      • 340 hopefruit2
        November 17, 2012 at 7:57 am

        And as collegekay said, they will be blamed fair and square. If they want to lose the house in 2014, let them keep obstructing. This time their corporate media won’t save them.

        • November 17, 2012 at 8:09 am

          I don’t think they care, it’s a big game to them. They think their constituents will reward them if they do not cooperate!

          • 342 hopefruit2
            November 17, 2012 at 8:18 am

            That is true for only some of them. Not all. Republicans cannot win on just their policies. They have to resort to all kinds of dirty tricks to win elections these days – race-baiting, voter suppression tactics, etc.

  77. 343 57andFemale
    November 17, 2012 at 7:23 am

  78. 344 proudmemberofglobalzero
    November 17, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Allen West doesn’t get it….either does FL. The recount starts in an hour and a half:

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/murphy-west-recount-debated-in-st-lucie-as-electio/nS8Xp/

  79. 349 hopefruit2
    November 17, 2012 at 7:55 am

  80. November 17, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Good morning, TODville:

    POTUS departure livestream:

    http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

  81. 351 JER
    November 17, 2012 at 7:58 am

    | Watch Live |
    Awaiting President Obama’s departure from Andrews: http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  82. November 17, 2012 at 7:59 am

    But but but Petreas said this and that Petreas really didn’t say this and that Jack and Jill of South Tampa went up the Hill to fetch a General or two, Petreas fell down and broke his Crown, tax the rich don’t tax the rich, watergate Schmatergate, McCain is madder than a Hornet and Lindsey Graham is the new dynamic duo and…

  83. 354 Melanie
    November 17, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Here’s the live feed as PBO prepares for takeoff.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  84. 365 JER
    November 17, 2012 at 8:24 am

  85. November 17, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Morning everyone! Just finishing Rise and Shine, will post soon. Meanwhile, am I the last to see this?

    I am? :oops:

  86. 372 JER
    November 17, 2012 at 8:36 am

    First stop: Bangkok, an 8,800 mile hop. POTUS arrives 3:10 am Sunday (3:10 pm Bangkok)

  87. 376 forus50
    November 17, 2012 at 8:49 am

    • 377 hopefruit2
      November 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

      The MSM will quietly pretend this never happened. All this distraction with Patraeus, etc is to hide the increasingly obvious fact that this election was no where as “close” as the MSM predicted or would have liked. It was a resounding defeat DESPITE all the efforts that went into creating the opposite outcome.

  88. November 17, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Excited to see the progress PBO will be making on this trip. Trade, foreign policy, relations with emerging nations.

    • 379 hopefruit2
      November 17, 2012 at 9:03 am

      Indeed. Tomorrow the media will have their usual Republican love-in Sunday with zero mention of this trip.

      • November 17, 2012 at 9:07 am

        Yes. I saw that lineup Chips posted. Sunday news shows have never been more hideous. They only grow more disgusting with each passing week. Leave them to rot in a heap of fear.

  89. 381 hopefruit2
    November 17, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Joy Ann thanks UT for speaking the truth!!

    • 382 utaustinliberal
      November 17, 2012 at 9:39 am

      Yay!!!!! Just seeing this now. I freaked out when I found out that she follows me on Twitter. Did a happy dance for sure. :D


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