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President Obama with Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra

President Barack Obama, with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Ambassador Kristie Kenney, left, meet with King Bhumibol Adulyadej of the Kingdom of Thailand, at Siriraj Hospital in Bangkok, Thailand, Nov. 18 (Pete Souza)

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Chat away everyone, back in a while ;-)


230 Responses to “Chat away”


  1. 1 Elle in MI
    November 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    1st in moderation

  2. 8 Rita
    November 18, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Chips, love your Thailand diary! Great work, as always! Happy Sunday, everyone!!

  3. 14 Elle in MI
    November 18, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    I made it! My first comment was in moderation. Good afternoon TOD! Enjoying our President’s trip. Wishing him and all of you a blessed day!

  4. 17 Judith Fardig
    November 18, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Gorgeous!!

  5. 18 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Just read an article about conversations between PBO and Sec Clinton about the fiscal cliff as they visited the Monastery (will post that here in a sec) that points out they’re both barefoot. Makes sense, but I didn’t even notice it in the photos. Had to go back and look at photos in previous thread. Yep, no shoes.

  6. 37 cindysweatt
    November 18, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    I love her dress! I hope our President is enjoying himself. I hope he gets a chance to have some yummy food, smell some flowers and relax a little. Too bad Mrs. Obama and the kids couldn’t have gone and spent a few days. It is such a wonderful place. I also recommend going to Phuket. The water and the beaches are the best in the world. That is if you like warm, clear/blue water gently lapping on the white sands, with warm tropical breezes on your skin while sipping cool fruit drinks and eating mango sticky rice(I think they eat that in heaven.) lol

    • 38 PoliticalJunkessa
      November 18, 2012 at 12:27 pm

      Sounds glorious!

    • 39 desertflower
      November 18, 2012 at 12:29 pm

      Sounds like the place of dreams….

    • November 18, 2012 at 12:37 pm

      YES – I can haz jacket???? Seriously. How smokin’ hawt is that red jacket??? LOVE!!! And all those photos! What a gorgeous place! A corner of the globe on my list that I haven’t made it to… yet. :)

      • 41 HZ
        November 18, 2012 at 8:23 pm

        Hi Tally. I was asking about you yesterday. (((((Hugs to you, sweet beautiful angel)))))). I know that you will probably fulfill your get to visit this beautiful place. Your heart dwells with beautiful and adventure. Speak it and put it in your beautiful jar list of your gorgeous places to go.

        I love the lovely jacket as well. Beautiful, beautiful!! And our POTUS is loving it all along with his team, and dear friends along. I am so grateful to see him making so much history.

        Love you beautiful and special lady. HZ

  7. 43 desertflower
    November 18, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    h/t to Political Carnival..

  8. 44 Kreen
    November 18, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Morning! Gorgeous pics! Love seeing PBO visiting these places I visited in Thailand such as the reclining Buddha, which is so impressive to see in person.

  9. 45 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    • 46 Obama Grandmama
      November 18, 2012 at 1:01 pm

      As an artist I noticed on my own travels to Thailand, Myanmar and Laos that the street markets had many artists that all seemed to plagarize other artist’s work. No one respected copyrights. Music, art, clothing designs etc were all bootlegged.

  10. 47 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 12:46 pm

  11. 51 prettyfoot58
    November 18, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Running From Romney: the GOP’s Phony New Compassion

    When someone in any social cohort decides to act like Ebenezer Scrooge, it’s easy and quite natural for everyone else to fall into the role of Bob Cratchit. This is what several Republicans are now doing in reaction to Mitt Romney’s remarks about Barack Obama and his “gifts” to his core constituencies. But Republicans allegedly competing for the loyalties of the 100 percent is a movie we’ve seen. It doesn’t work, and it doesn’t work for a straightforward reason: free-market solutions to many of the problems faced by the 47 percent simply don’t exist. The GOP has no answer to these problems, and it really doesn’t want to have any. But, boy oh boy, are we about to enter a galling period of hearing them pretend otherwise.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/18/running-from-romney-the-gop-s-phony-new-compassion.html

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    To paraphase an old rap song….Don’t Believe the Hype!!!

  12. 55 Obama Grandmama
    November 18, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Upon waking this morning I was listening to NPR because my regular local progressive radio station was turned into a FOX Sports station the weekend after the election. I am still in withdrawal trying to figure that one out since there are no progressive radio stations in Oregon now. At the time I turned on NPR there was an article in progress about the GOP Governors meeting. The outcome was announced that they did not believe the election was about ideology. It was about better messaging, groundgame and outreach. There are 30 states run by GOP Governors now and they decided they do not wish to implement Obamacare that he had no mandate. I felt really discouraged and felt CHANGE is near impossible when one side lies to themselves. At one time I thought we just needed to leave the older generation behind with their inability to CHANGE even though I am one of them and am not of that thinking. In noticing that the beliefs have been passed on to the younger generation in that region of the country I am not so sure now. The reason I didn’t listen to NPR for awhile was I started to notice their drift towards the GOP. WE NEED MORE PROGRESSIVE MEDIA NOW.

    • 56 desertflower
      November 18, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      I hear you, OG:) May have to listen online… http://tunein.com/radio/Progressive-c57925/ Love my Randi Rhodes….

    • 57 prettyfoot58
      November 18, 2012 at 1:16 pm

      Greetings OG….

      there is a book called….Who Moved My Cheese…..

      a small lil book…it is about change…

      it outlines that there are 3 kinds of folks when it comes to change,,,,

      those that are out in front of change,,,,,, who relish change and embrace it….

      those that are resistent and who have to be nudged along but they do move…

      and then there are those who refuse to change….they get left behind….
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      the problem with the 2nd and third group is that they can clog up the works…the 2nd group never really buys into the change they just go along for the go along,,,,,

      and the 3rd group will not go quietly in the night….often they are able to pull the 2nd group to their side…to create havoc where they can….

      Sooooo,,, it is the first group that performs the Herculean task of moving us along,,,

      that is why our path is slow and long….but the gooooooood thang…is that we indeed do move…

    • 58 mtmarilyn
      November 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      I feel the same. I use to listen to KPOJ online, Now on my phone and computer I listen thru I heart radio. You can find wherever there is a progressive station and listen on your smart phone or online. I listen to Stephanie Miller and Randi Rhodhes on KTLK from LA. It has helped save my sanity.

    • 59 sabreen60
      November 18, 2012 at 3:16 pm

      I heard Stephanie Miller say that she was kicked to curb by several radio stations after the election. She also that she was replaced by sports programs that are getting a fraction of her ratings. Prior to the election, at least one station replaced her with Glen Beck and his rating is in the toilet. What I don’t understand is why liberal millionaires and billionaires have decided to leave the radio airwaves for the right the spew their propaganda.

      • November 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm

      • 61 Obama Grandmama
        November 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm

        The Friday night after elections the Progressive Radio stations in Oregon closed down replacing them with FOX Sports, atleast the Portland one was. Not sure if the Eugene station choose sports or something else. I thought it was mightly suspicious that the Portland host did not know until the end of the day that his station was axing his show. When I planned to listen to the reruns of the week’s shows on Saturday when they played the progressive shows not aired during the week only to find the shows were gone. Fox Sports took their place. I checked online and found out the host had no idea ahead of time. I wondered if this was part of the GOP owners sour grapes and way to win if there were no way for the progressives to talk to one another or spread their message? It’s got me mad.

        • 62 Obama Grandmama
          November 18, 2012 at 8:49 pm

          Woops! Was scrolling up the posts from the bottom and didn’t even realize I was posting on my own earlier post of the day. Boy, how embarrassing! After I posted I scrolled up some more and saw all of your posts were in answer to mine. Woops again!

  13. 63 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 1:06 pm

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  15. November 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Note that this was before the election and he, like so many, were certain that President Obama would lose and he’d have the easily manipulated – by Cheney and the NEOCONSTERS – Mitt Romney in the White House.

    This video really should be seen by millions of Americans

    • 71 Jessica
      November 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm

      Where did you get this? Do you think the Obama admin has already seen this?

      • November 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm

        From a Tweet. It’s been on YouTube since 29 Sept 2012. Very much like the fact that Romney’s #47Percent video – segments of it – had been on YouTube since May, months before James E Carter convinced David Corn to ‘break the story.’ Hard to imagine someone in the WH hasn’t seen it, but it’s our responsibility to make sure they do. I suggest folk Tweet it to @Pfeiffer44 @BillBurton44 @PressSec @vj44 @jrpsaki etc. Let’s make it happen!

        • November 18, 2012 at 1:23 pm

          • 74 GGail
            November 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm

            Thank you Bobfr for bringing this to our attention. I knew Bibi was not right in his thinking, but this crosses the line!

        • 75 Jessica
          November 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm

          I know PBO doesn’t trust him and is tired of his childish antics but it’s time for Bibi to get a spanking. No more timeouts. I honestly hope PBO has something for his ass. The Election is over.

          • 76 theo67
            November 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm

            I think the President treads carefully here because there are many people in Israel who abhor what Netanyahu is doing, and any public separation from Israel would completely destabilize the region. I think the David Cameron statement warning Netanyahu that he’ll lose international support was probably coordinated with President Obama to provide cover, and slow Netanyahu down. There is a limit to what the world will take of his hubris.

      • November 18, 2012 at 1:24 pm

        Here’s the tweet that alerted me to the video, Jessica

        H/T to PN

    • November 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    • 80 desertflower
      November 18, 2012 at 1:20 pm

      This is repulsive. HE is repulsive. Everyone needs to see this….it could be HIS 47% moment!

      • November 18, 2012 at 1:28 pm

        Let’s see if James will get on it. His grandfather would definitely be repulsed and it is truly just as revealing as Romney’s Boca Raton dissing of the American people and disgusting attitude about the lives of the oppressed (Chinese female slaves in Mitt’s case) …

      • 82 Melanie
        November 18, 2012 at 1:34 pm

        80% of Americans support us….bwahhahaha. We’ll probably start to see some new polling if this thing escalates more. The last poll I saw was I think some time last year and it was maybe in the 60% range if that. If Bibi continues to push this thing he’s going to realize how far the ground has shifted beneath him; not only in this country but all over the world.

        • 83 jackiegrumbacher
          November 18, 2012 at 4:09 pm

          Melanie, you are so right. People are disgusted by the violence right now, especially the impact on children and small babies. Many of the hotels where the media are staying have been attacked and journalists injured. I wonder where he thinks all the US support is going to come front in the face of this kind of carnage.

    • November 18, 2012 at 1:33 pm

      Chips, I’ve used download helper to capture a copy. Please do the same. And, as many of you as can, please download a copy of the mp4 file. Want to be sure it’s not erased now that it’s getting attention on Twitter ;)

    • November 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      Recent comment at YouTube:

      “this is on the front page of reddit right now. so Netanyahu thinks Americans are so easily controlled huh? lets find out.
      AstroidSizeZit 1 hour ago”

      • November 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm

        Hiya Bob, just finishing off my day’s work, dropped in briefly, looked at video. Are we sure the subtitles/translation are accurate? I’m always wary of anything like this, Netanyahu’s crew are capable of anything, including a set-up like this to discredit his opponents. If it’s accurate, then he’s even more vile than I previously believed. Thanks Bob – back soon.

        • 88 desertflower
          November 18, 2012 at 2:05 pm

          Anyone here know Hebrew?

          • November 18, 2012 at 2:22 pm

            I don’t but here’s Google Translate:

            במיוחד היום עם אמריקה. אני יודע מה זה אמריקה. <- Especially today with America. I know what America is.

            אמריקה היא משהו שניתן להעביר בקלות. עבר לכיוון הנכון. <- america is something that can be easily moved. moved to the right direction.

            הם לא יקבלו בדרך שלנו. הם לא יקבלו בדרך שלנו. <- They won't get in our way. They won't get in our way.

            It should be fairly easily for someone who knows Hebrew to match the text on the screen with what they hear him saying. It certainly does not appear to be a voice over given the dynamism of the conversation with the other participants. But, experts can nail it and hopefully will soon. People are dying needlessly.

        • November 18, 2012 at 2:06 pm

          Thought of that before posting Chips. Had the video only had a few views and been recent, would have been much more suspect, but it’s been on YouTube since 29 Sept and has over 58K views and so if it had been debunked one would have thought that would have happened by now. For sure, folk will need to do forensics on it, just as they had to do on the Boca Raton tape of Mitt. Pushing it to folk like Corn, O’Donnell, Carter4, Bill Burton (who had the ads made of Mitt’s #47Percent) will hopefully ensure those forensics are done, asap.

          However, nothing about what Bibi says is a surprise – I’ve known, by his actions toward our President, his aggression, and so many other actions, not just words, that he views Americans as puppets and he’s the puppet master.

          #FORWARD

          • November 18, 2012 at 2:11 pm

            Thanks Bob, I agree, I’d imagine it would have been debunked by now if the substitles were inaccurate. And the arrogance and vileness fits the man’s repulsive character. Can’t begin to describe how much I loathe him. Back soon, thanks again Bob.

            • November 18, 2012 at 2:33 pm

              Doing further research, the original video was recorded in 2001 and has appeared in other YouTube videos, including one in 2010. They’ve had more than a decade to debunk it making it even more relevant now that we have witnessed Bibi’s behavior toward our President, interference in the recent past election and current actions in Gaza. To say we’ve been warned, and considered puppets, is an understatement of enormous proportions.

              Perhaps, as with the Romney #47Percent video, the time has arrived where we, citizens, truly are the media and we will push to make this crystal clear attitudes of people like Netanyahu and Romney and others widely known. Let’s face it, those Romney clips were on YouTube for months and it took constant pressure, including the diligent efforts of James Carter, finally to bring the truth to light. The impact of those segments in PrioritiesUSA and other ads was significant.

              #FORWARD

          • 93 idon
            November 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm

            I do not speak Hebrew but I would strongly advise that it be taken down.

  16. 105 prettyfoot58
    November 18, 2012 at 1:35 pm

  17. 108 Don
    November 18, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    I was watching the football game, Dallas is losing and I’m so happy. I know damn well that BiBi didn’t say what he’s accused of saying.

  18. 121 prettyfoot58
    November 18, 2012 at 1:40 pm

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  20. 124 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm

  21. 125 anniebella
    November 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    I don’t like all that gray in President Obama hair.

    • 126 dudette9t9
      November 18, 2012 at 2:22 pm

      I don’t like what’s caused all the gray in his hair, but for me it adds to his appeal rather than detracts from. More distinguished statesman, less the baby-faced wunderkind.

      • 127 nathkatun7
        November 18, 2012 at 2:54 pm

        I totally agree with you, dudette. Besides, at age 51, the President still looks young, in total shape, and full of vigor.

      • 128 anniebella
        November 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

        dudette9t0, It doesn’t me, alittle dye won’t hurt. And I don’t like the B.S. he has to put up with from the Republicans either.

        • 129 anniebella
          November 18, 2012 at 3:55 pm

          I’m not saying I want him to look like he’s 30 years old, but he’s only 51, he doesn’t have to look like he’s sixty.

  22. 130 theo67
    November 18, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Not sure if this was posted already, since I’m catching up on previous posts. Quick write-up of the beginning of President Obama’s visit to Thailand.

    ‘“It’s meaningful that Obama came straight to Wat Pho,” said Pradab Supradit, a 67-year-old Thai grandmother who took a bus, a river ferry and then walked up roads closed for security hoping to glimpse the man or just see his convoy. “It will bring him blessings because temples are at the center of Thai people’s hearts.”’

    Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/11/18/obama-gets-taste-of-thailand-at-buddhist-temple/#ixzz2CbUIu81K

  23. 131 desertflower
    November 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Bobfr…and others…thought you might be interested in this….I get emails from them. Thought you should read

    http://jstreet.org/blog/post/enough-of-silence_1

    With rockets flying and bombs falling, our hearts and prayers go out to all impacted by this latest violence. Those who grieve the loss of loved ones. Those suffering from injury and trauma. Those huddled in shelters, homes and schools dreading the next blast or siren.

    We thank President Obama and those in the international community working to achieve a ceasefire. We urge every effort to de-escalate this conflict as quickly as possible.

    Israel has the right and obligation to defend itself against rocket fire and against those who refuse to recognize its right to exist and inexcusably use terror and violence to achieve their ends.

    Now with Israeli forces poised for a possible ground invasion and rockets flying closer to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, we must ask whether actions being taken today advance long-term security and stop the cycle of suffering. Do they bring us closer to ending this conflict in two states for two peoples, or do they leave us farther away?

    Four years ago, those of us who critiqued Operation Cast Lead asked whether massive military action would end the rockets and make Israel more secure.

    Clearly, we have our answer. Today, rockets are more numerous and powerful. Israel is more isolated in its region and more ostracized around the world.

    And now the cycle begins again – and we must not be silent.

    Military action may stop the rockets for a while at a cost of hundreds or even thousands injured or dead.

    But military force alone is inadequate as a response to the broader strategic challenge Israel faces. Only a political resolution to the century-old conflict with the Palestinians resulting in two states living side by side can end the conflict.

    Without that, in a few short years, we’ll be right back here again: anger deeper, rockets more powerful, and political forces yet more extreme.

    Sadly, too few in Israeli politics today are willing to say that the strategic threat to the survival of Israel is not the rockets from Gaza, but the failure to achieve two states before it is too late.

    Even more sadly, there is apparently little audience in Israel for such a message. We are told the Israeli people have given up on peace, that we shouldn’t talk of peace, that it’s a dirty word today.

    Our message to Israel’s government, and to our friends and family must be clear: we love you, we care about you, and the volcano on whose edge you sit is on the verge of erupting. We back your right to respond to unconscionable rocket fire, but we do not accept complacency or the argument that there is nothing to be done to resolve the conflict.

    Our message to Washington must be equally clear: the United States remains essential to ending to this deadly conflict.

    We thank the Obama administration for working hard to achieve a ceasefire that ends this present round of violence before it escalates.

    We also are grateful to Washington for the Iron Dome missile defense system, which has saved lives and almost certainly prevented deeper escalation of this round of violence.

    • 132 desertflower
      November 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      Jeepers! I didn’t think it would be THIS long! There’s more to read there…sorry everyone:(

    • November 18, 2012 at 2:47 pm

      Thank you df. This segment deserves focus:

      “Four years ago, those of us who critiqued Operation Cast Lead asked whether massive military action would end the rockets and make Israel more secure.
      Clearly, we have our answer. Today, rockets are more numerous and powerful. Israel is more isolated in its region and more ostracized around the world.
      And now the cycle begins again – and we must not be silent.”

      I hope President Peres, viewing the events of the past few days, will step forward and form the coalition Livni. Bibi must be defeated in January.

      #FORWARD

      • 134 desertflower
        November 18, 2012 at 2:57 pm

        I pray you’re right. It doesn’t take courage to lob bombs across the land and kill innocent people. It takes courage to find a peaceful path. No person is unworthy of peace and security…and the hope for a better life.

    • 136 jeff
      November 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm

      I don’t think that Israel has the right to take over Gaza. They have the right to defend themselves but it seems to me they have some other reason for this and it doesn’t reek at all of self defense. Instead it seems like an invasion to me.

    • 137 theo67
      November 18, 2012 at 6:14 pm

      This is a well reasoned and cogent statement. And it really does touch on the important points. How does Netanyahu’s actions bring long term stability for the Israelis? Is this a short-term solution, or have they abandoned the pursuit of peace, since they absolutely refused to stop the settlement activities in violation of a previously negotiated treaty? Do they think this disproportionate response will make Hamas and the Palestinians less or more likely to negotiate? Or will it simply create a new generation of people who want to avenge the unnecessary deaths of their children and babies? What is the end goal?

    • November 18, 2012 at 6:39 pm

      I hope the parties can reach a lasting peace. Sorry to hear that Israeli’s have given up on peace and that peace is a dirty word to them. Violence doesn’t solve anything in the long run unless you wipe out the entire opposing party. Perhaps President Obama can make a go of finding a peace plan that satisfied both parties. Would be a miracle.

  24. 150 desertflower
    November 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    OK. McCain has clearly lost his everloving mind.

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/11/18/video-mccain-doesnt-want-to-support-any-nominee-and-did-you-hear-about-his-overlooked-omission-on-benghazi/

    McCain: “The last message our beloved ambassador sent to us concerns about security in Benghazi. He had even voiced them to me when I was in Tripoli. Nothing was done.”

    HE HAD EVEN VOICED THEM TO ME WHEN I WAS IN TRIPOLI. NOTHING WAS DONE.

    I do not know how this got lost in the news cycle but on October 28th, John McCain clearly stated– on national television– that Ambassador Chris Stevens had directly voiced security concerns and McCain chose to do nothing. To this day, McCain has never been asked to explain what he did with the direct information from Stevens about these concerns but in light of the tragedy, perhaps we now have the perfect point from which to launch a Watergate-like investigation.

    • November 18, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    • November 18, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    • 154 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm

      I’ve said it before and I will say it again: McCain is a media creation. The media continue to enable his Obama derangement syndrome. It’s the media that we need to push hard against. They are the ones that keep giving McCain a platform and a megaphone to spew his hatred of the President who thoroughly defeated him in 2008. How many times did the media invite VP Gore and Sen. Kerry to constantly attack President Bush? Yet McCain is a fixture on the Sunday news shows where he is routinely allowed to attack President Obama without any push back from the media hosts.

      • November 18, 2012 at 3:27 pm

        Great comment, nath!! Hopefully, Jay Carney will read it!

        • 156 nathkatun7
          November 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm

          Thanks Bob. And thanks for all your fearless tweets. Our so called “4th Estate” is despicable. Any objective observer knows that McCain’s constant attacks on the President are deeply rooted in his bitterness that President Obama thoroughly defeated him in 2008. Clearly, he is not a reliable person that the country should be bombarded with when it comes to evaluating President Obama’s foreign policy. If the media wanted a Republican viewpoint when it comes to foreign policy why not call on Dick Lugar who is well respected for his knowledge of foreign affairs?

  25. November 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    So True!!!

    • 158 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      This is so true of his vocal surrogates like Sen. Marc Rubio and Gov. Bobby Jindal. Both of them voiced no criticism of Romney’s denigration and dismissal of the 47% of Americans. They were also equally silent when Romney dissed the NAACP members.

    • 159 prettyfoot58
      November 18, 2012 at 4:16 pm

      THISSSSSSSSSSSS

    • 160 anniebella
      November 18, 2012 at 6:04 pm

      I agree with stormy malone, these same Republicans who are all of a sudden jumping on Mitt Romney, didn’t do that during the election. I don’t trust Jindal or any of them.

  26. November 18, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    The whole world has gone nuts!

  27. November 18, 2012 at 3:31 pm

  28. 163 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 3:33 pm

  29. 164 vcprezofan2
    November 18, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Other than sleep deprivation, I haven’t a clue why I posted this video of Pres O and SOS Clinton (that I don’t understand) on the previous thread. Anyway, thank you to all who have helped me by retweeting when I say something relevant.

  30. 166 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    • 167 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 4:02 pm

      The figures I saw yesterday showed that Preident Obama’s popular vote margin over Romney was slightly more than 3.7 million votes. This translates to a winning margin of slightly more than 3%. Ironically, Mitt Romney should have been worried about the 53% who voted against him. I suppose, in keeping with the GOP’s inability to deal with the math reality, he had his percentages reversed when he unleashed his attacks on the 47%. It turns out that it was his clueless supporters who are the 47%

  31. November 18, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    two monkees reject unequal pay

  32. November 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Nice summary :)

  33. 176 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Dumbass taxpayer wasting West.

    • 177 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 4:17 pm

      Forus50, by my calculation, Murphy won the district handily with well over 50.1% of the votes. Murphy’s votes appear to be at least 10% more than West’s votes. Did I mis-calculate the percentage?

    • 179 Cathy from MN
      November 18, 2012 at 4:28 pm

      Can we be done with Allen West now? What a miserable person; I won’t be sorry to see him go!!!

    • 181 anniebella
      November 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm

      Maybe Joe from Lieberman knows what is truly behind McCain and Graham. And that is revenge, bitterness, from the lying racists Republicans.

  34. 182 forus50
    November 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    • 183 susanne
      November 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm

      round him down! round him down!

    • 186 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm

      Yes indeed! Here in CA Obama is leading Romney by over 2 1/2 million votes. I understand that there are still more votes to be counted. So it’s still possible that the President’s margin of victory will be about 4% — that is 51% for O, 47% for R, and 2% for others. Bottom line: President Obama won 50+% of the popular vote and 61.7% of the electoral votes. By any objective standards,this was a solid and impressive win. It’s even more impressive given the vast sums of money expended by the billionaires and millionaires to defeat him; as well as the hostility by the MSM against him.

      • 187 pkayden
        November 18, 2012 at 6:56 pm

        Also a big deal given the over emphasis on the unemployment rate. For some reason every first Friday this month became a breathless game of “how high is the unemployment rate” as if President Obama was solely responsible for whether it went up or down.

  35. 188 susanne
    November 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    bringing this over from the pajama party (last night, waiting for pbo to arrive in thailand):

    on another topic (anybody awake?) puerto rico voted for statehood, and the ball is now in congress’ court. the economist has an interesting analysis, with this conclusion:

    ‘ Republican-controlled House of Representatives has little incentive to address the topic. According to exit polls, 83% of boricuas on the mainland voted for Barack Obama. Statehood would add two Senate seats and a House delegation of five, the same size as Oregon’s and probably as reliably Democratic.

    Unless the island holds another vote that yields a different result, however, Puerto Rico has now officially requested statehood. If Democrats retake the House in 2014, they would be well-advised to try to add a 51st star to the flag. ‘

    http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21566697-america-may-not-want-what-its-caribbean-outpost-now-does-51st-state

    • 189 dudette9t9
      November 18, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Thanks for the reminder susanne. Might as well keep the conversation going a bit…

    • 190 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 4:45 pm

      Susanne, I am sure the Republicans will be in no mood to allow Puerto Rico to become the 51st state; just as they are not willing to grant Washington D.C. statehood.

      • 191 susanne
        November 18, 2012 at 5:02 pm

        their moods are ugly, it’s true, but after 2014, maybe we can just ignore them. or at least, pat them on the head, seat them at the children’s table, and go on with the work of the adults.

      • 192 dudette9t9
        November 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm

        So true nath!

        • 193 nathkatun7
          November 18, 2012 at 5:46 pm

          By the way, Dudette, the population of Washington D.C. is greater than the population of Wyoming. It’s also almost equal to the population of Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana–all red states that are entitled to two seats each in the United States Senate. Of course the population of Puerto Rico would even be much greater than many other Red states like Nebraska and Kansas and even more than those of Blue states like Delaware, Vermont and Maine.

  36. 195 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 4:09 pm

  37. 196 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    POTUS & Sec Clinton visit US Embassy staff in Bangkok. Amb Kristie Kenney introduces them.

  38. 199 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    From Amb Kristie Kenney:

    • 200 hopefruit2
      November 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      Ambassador Kenney has been doing a great job of tweeting the events and providing pictures for us back at home. :)

      • 201 nathkatun7
        November 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm

        What a transformation in political reality– world-wide. It’s so delicious and gratifying to see a President of United states, who is the first AA to hold the office, accompanied by two powerful women, the SoS and the Ambassador, being greeted by a woman Prime Minister of Thailand. This is the world that many of us who have been struggling for equal rights for decades envisioned.

  39. 204 hopefruit2
    November 18, 2012 at 4:28 pm

  40. 205 susanne
    November 18, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    in the ‘also making headlines’ section of msnbc’s website (i really detest the use of a question mark in the title–and i’m sick of the word ‘try’–as in, ‘pbo tries to show….’ , but there is a great photo of pbo and the king:

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/18/15252570-americas-pacific-president-obama-opens-first-post-election-trip-with-visit-to-thailand?lite

  41. November 18, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    So true …

  42. November 18, 2012 at 4:50 pm

  43. 208 Sharon
    November 18, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    I just discovered something while searching for the current upcoming schedule. The White House site under “Briefing Room” “Statements and Releases” has the schedule given to the press from leaving Thailand (9pm ET) to the closing dinner in Cambodia. Time difference stays the same except for Burma. They are at eleven and a half hours instead of twelve.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/18/daily-guidance-and-press-schedule-monday-november-19-2012

    • 209 Sharon
      November 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm

      Perhaps miscalculation on time in Burma. May be twelve and one half hour difference. At 9:00 for instance, it will be 8:30 in Burma. You figure it out. I get confused with actual hours.

  44. November 18, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    • 211 nathkatun7
      November 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm

      Bravo, Bob! As it turns out many people are not only suffering from what the President called ROMNESIA, but, because of our media, many people are also suffering from a MEDIANESIA! By way of comparison, ROMNESIA pales in comparison with MEDIANESIA. MEDIANESIA is more pervasive and insidious and affects a much larger segment of the population because it’s spread by the media.

  45. 213 sabreen60
    November 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    If you haven’t seen this documentary, you should IMO.

    “Park Avenue: Money, Power & The American Dream (2012)”

  46. 218 FoxfireTX
    November 18, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    I have no idea how accurate this is but it sounds like PBO is doing his damnest to try to get some resolution on the Gaza issue but i not getting a whole lot of cooperation from either side. While my heart aches for the Palestinians living in Gaza, they need to get rid of Hamas if there is ever going to be a permanent resolution.

    http://debka.com/article/22539/Israeli-leaders-re-examine-Gaza-ground-operation-under-strong-Obama-pressure

  47. 221 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm

  48. November 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm

  49. 223 dudette9t9
    November 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Off-topic:

    • 224 theo67
      November 18, 2012 at 6:50 pm

      That was hilarious – I often say many of the same things while flipping through that catalog… or is it catalogue?

    • 225 pkayden
      November 18, 2012 at 7:04 pm

      Hilarious but the chocolate chocolate croissants look tempting though!

      I’ve bought a few things from Willian Sonoma catalogs and from their stores. You can find a few cheap items.

  50. November 18, 2012 at 6:16 pm

  51. 228 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 18, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Biden tours several storm-damaged cities in NJ

    ANGELA DELLI SANTI , The Associated Press
    POSTED: Sunday, November 18, 2012, 6:02 PM
    SEASIDE HEIGHTS, N.J. – Vice President Joe Biden spent the better part of Sunday visiting storm-wrecked parts of New Jersey and reassuring residents that the federal government won’t abandon them after Superstorm Sandy.

    Biden, a Scranton, Pa., native who spent summers at the Jersey shore as a boy, stopped on the boardwalk in Seaside Heights to say he’s “a homeboy” who understands the need to rebuild the shore. Later, at the Hoboken Terminal, Biden said the superstorm brought with the devastation an opportunity to rebuild public transit infrastructure that’s strong enough to withstand the challenges of the next century.

    more>>>>>>>>> http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20121118_ap_bidentoursseveralstormdamagedcitiesinnj.html

  52. 230 anniebella
    November 18, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    I hope the President, First Lady Michelle and their family will be able to go on their Christmas vacation to Hawaii. It seem every since the Republicans got control of the House, it has been one crisis after another, which has delayed his vacation trips to Hawaii.


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