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Rise and Shine

Completely random poster (New Black Woman)

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AP: The U.S. economy grew at a faster 2.7 percent annual rate from July through September, although the strength may fade in the final months of the year.

The Commerce Department says growth in the third quarter was much better than the 2 percent rate estimated a month ago and more than twice the 1.3 percent rate logged in the April-June quarter.

The two biggest factors in the upward revision were larger gains in business stockpiles and a boost in export sales. That offset weaker consumer spending.

Economists believe growth is slowing to a rate below 2 percent in the current October-December quarter because of disruptions from Superstorm Sandy and worries about sharp tax increases and spending cuts that would occur in January without a budget deal in Washington.

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Steve Benen

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Steve Benen: Initial unemployment claims spiked a few weeks ago after Hurricane Sandy slammed the Northeast, but the new figures from the Department of Labor points to a steady improvement:

Applications for U.S. unemployment benefits fell 23,000 to a seasonally adjusted 393,000 in the week ended Nov. 24, the Labor Department said Thursday. Initial claims from two weeks ago were revised up to 416,000 from an original reading of 410,000, based on more complete data collected at the state level. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected claims to drop to 390,000 as the effects of Hurricane Sandy fade.

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CNBC: Buyers are coming back to the housing market in ever greater numbers, as an industry index measuring contracts to purchase existing homes surged 5.2 percent in October from September.

The monthly gauge of pending home sales from the National Association of Realtors was also revised higher in September and is now up 13.2 percent from October of 2011. This is a forward looking indicator for closed sales one to two months from now.

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Cagle

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@EricBoehlert

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President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden meet with business leaders to discuss the actions needed to keep the economy growing and find a balanced approach to reduce the deficit, in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, Nov. 28, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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An angry President Obama admonishes Bo for eating Romney’s White House lunch:

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E.J. Dionne: Here’s the first lesson from the early skirmishing over ways to avoid the fiscal cliff: Democrats and liberals have to stop elevating Grover Norquist, the anti-government crusader who wields his no-tax pledge as a nuclear weapon, into the role of a political Superman.

Pretending that Norquist is more powerful than he is allows Republicans to win acclaim they haven’t earned yet. Without making a single substantive concession, they get loads of praise just for saying they are willing to ignore those old pledges to Grover … kudos for an openness to compromise should be reserved for Republicans who put forward concrete proposals to raise taxes.

The corollary is that progressives should be unafraid to draw their own red lines. If you doubt that this is a good idea, just look at how effective Norquist has been.

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Maddow Blog: Here’s an easy way to remember the Republican party’s commitment to diversity: Of the 19 committee chairs chosen by House Republicans thus far, all 19 are white men!

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CNN: In the final race deemed too close to call, Republican David Rouzer conceded Wednesday after a recount in the race for North Carolina’s 7th Congressional District showed incumbent Rep. Mike McIntyre won by a razor-thin margin.

…. Despite facing a newly-drawn district that appeared to have been created to end his career, McIntyre showed strong signs of life in the race and ran a competitive race in the district that skews heavily Republican. He led in fundraising over Rouzer, a state senator, and kept even with ad spending by pro-Republican outside groups and the national Republican Party. Rouzer, however, stayed off the airwaves.

The contest was considered the final unresolved House race from Election Day that could make a difference in the makeup of the 113th Congress…. McIntyre’s victory gives Democrats a net gain of eight House seats from the November election, and the next Congress will consist of 234 Republicans and 201 Democrats.

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Completely random pic:

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Moooooooooooorning everyone.


180 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Me.

  2. 13 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:01 am

    The news on the economic front is freaking awesome! After 2Q GDP grew only 1.3%, 3Q GDP was revised up from 2.0% to 2.7% (This is a BFD) and, according to Daniel Gross of The Daily Beast, compared with a year ago, there are now 1.8M fewer Americans receiving unemployment benefits. It’s down 25% from a year ago.

    I hear GOP heads exploding as Pres. Obama and Americans stay winning.

    • November 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      I thought right wingers were all screeching that everything would be revised upward after the election, per their corruption conspiracy theories? If people aren’t getting a clue that the media and their right wing carnival barkers are deceptive and clueless, then I don’t know what it will take.

  3. 15 ber6964
    November 29, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Morning All……………Congrats on First UL
    Anybody Heard anything on Fred Yet??……………Sending Positive and Healing thoughts Her way.

  4. 16 Japa21
    November 29, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Top 10. And also am hoping to hear good news concerning Fred.

  5. November 29, 2012 at 9:13 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone. Congrats ut on #1! :)

  6. 21 taiping1
    November 29, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Good morning all. Thanks Chips for an exceptional rise and shine!

  7. 23 taiping1
    November 29, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Good morning all. Thanks Chips for an exceptional Rise&Shine! It’s great to read before getting up.

  8. 24 taiping1
    November 29, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Sorry for the double post. WP did not have the post comment button so I redid it.

  9. 25 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Thanks for the Last Word videos Chips. The republicans think they’re sly when the play the game of praising John Kerry and hailing him as the Messiah. They are beyond pathetic.

    • 26 TrumpDog
      November 29, 2012 at 9:45 am

      I just HOPE Dems don’t fall for this bullshit.

    • 27 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm

      The truth is, both Susan Rice AND John Kerry would do a wonderful job as Secretary of State. Trust the GOP and media to screw up the fact that the United States has multiple eminently qualified people to do that job, versus the losers who were doing it before.

  10. 28 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:44 am

    VP Biden is at a local Costco in D.C. talking to shoppers about keeping tax cuts in place for middle-class families and small businesses.

  11. 31 Betsy
    November 29, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Good Morning TOD family. I wish you all a great day. I am waking up to the sweet sound of rain. Love it as here in CA it is the closest I get to that feeling of Christmas in the air :)

  12. 36 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:45 am
    • 37 jacquelineoboomer
      November 29, 2012 at 9:48 am

      Now, that’s funny. Guess Mitt will also be late for lunch, ’cause he probably snuck in Costco to get some more “hardware things” …

    • 38 nabsentia23
      November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm

      What! There’s a Costco opening up in DC! Wow!

      Yes, I’m happy Biden is there, but having a Costco in DC is really, really awesome.

  13. 39 jacquelineoboomer
    November 29, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Completely random poster = me likey. Mornin’, Chips and TODville!

  14. 40 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:47 am
  15. November 29, 2012 at 9:51 am

    *** Explaining Romney’s loss — Obama was black and poor people voted overwhelmingly for him: Indeed, the entire piece appears to rationalize that the campaign’s strategy was right. (And for the reporters who received emails from Stevens during the campaign, the tone was very, very familiar.) In the op-ed, Stevens essentially suggests Romney lost because poor people overwhelmingly voted for Obama. “On Nov. 6, Romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income. That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters.” Yet that analysis ignores that those making less than $50,000 represented 41% of the electorate in 2012, and many of those people probably would argue that they’re in the middle class. Stevens also seems to argue that Obama won because he’s a black man whose campaign and party raised $1 billion. “[H]e was a charismatic African American president with a billion dollars, no primary and media that often felt morally conflicted about being critical. How easy is that to replicate?” But that also leaves out the fact that Romney was a white man who had a famous name in American politics and whose effort also raised close to $1 billion. By the way, there’s a lot of contradictory evidence to suggest the president carried the middle — the swing suburban counties. In every swing state, the largest major suburban county tipped to the president.

    *** Obama’s victory was more decisive than Bush’s in ’04: And here’s one final observation about the 2012 race. Per the excellent work by the Cook Political Report’s David Wasserman, Obama’s national lead over Romney continues to expand as votes keep on coming in. It’s now Obama 50.9%, Romney 47.4%. That’s a bigger (and more decisive) margin that Bush’s victory over John Kerry in 2004 (which was Bush 50.7% and Kerry 48.2%). What’s more, the president’s lead has grown to close to 3 points in Ohio, 4 points in Virginia and 6 points in Colorado. One doesn’t win Colorado by six points without winning swing voters; there isn’t a big-enough Democratic base to make that argument.

    http://firstread.msnbc.com

    • 42 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm

      President Obama won because he was the best man for the job. And because the country is lucky to have a man of his character and integrity, who understands the true definition of being a “public servant”. He could have been orange, and that would still have been true. He was an exceptional candidate, and he’s an exceptional president, and an exceptional man. Period.

  16. 43 Allison
    November 29, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Campaign managers, strategists and journalists have gathered at Harvard for an off-the-record conference on what happened during the 2012 presidential campaign.

    It’s fascinating — and I’ll have more when audio transcripts are released — but you’ll want to catch a live stream of a public event tonight at 6 pm ET with top Obama and Romney strategists

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/29/war_stories_from_campaign_2012.html

    • 44 Chi
      November 29, 2012 at 10:06 am

      I personally wish they’d stop talking…

      It tends to diminish the candidate as the strategists get more and more carried away…

      Last time around, Plouffe and the rest of the team did an in-depth interview with 60 minutes and very little else until David wrote the book and did a promotional tour…

      And even then he divulged very little…

      Sometimes it’s best to just leave things well alone…

      • November 29, 2012 at 11:11 am

        Yes, and bottom line, as Jim Messina insisted in his interview: we had THE extraordinary candidate. Ain’t NO SUBSTITUTE for that.
        and a committed bunch of people on the ground. All the rest of the talking is just ~idle~ b___s__. And isn’t it amazing how long people
        are willing to engage in idle b___s___t. really, amazing.

      • 46 Lovepolitics2008
        November 29, 2012 at 11:33 am

        I too am a bit uncomfortable with strategists giving talks. Heck, I’m not even sure I like the fact that Plouffe wrote a book about the 2008 campaign. Why explain you ideas and strategies in detail so the republicans can study them ?????? Republicans have much less brain power and imagination these days, and democrats should keep their secrets to themselves, to maintain their advantage.

        • November 29, 2012 at 11:51 am

          I’m not upset about the book. Just because it existed doesn’t mean anyone else could replicate it. Clearly the GOP learned exactly nothing from that book. It all boils down to the candidate, especially for Democrats.

      • 48 TrumpDog
        November 29, 2012 at 11:57 am

        I personally wish they’d stop talking…

        This.
        A thousand times…THIS!

  17. November 29, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Up and at ‘em O’s!!! How’s everyone on yet another great getting up day in TOD universe? Sooo, it looks like things continue to steadily improve on the economic front. I know I did my best to contribute to the economic stimulation on cyber Monday. So now I wait for delivery on all those free shipping deals. I did find a really, really, really cute item on-line for the grandson that didn’t have free shipping. Silly me, I paid $10.00 more to ship the gift than it actually cost. It was really, reallly, cute though.

    Now, it’s on to the lunch with Mitt today. I so love this idea. My only regret is that Ann won’t be there. I wanted FLOTUS to give her the grand tour of the WH. I wanted her to see every single room in all it’s finery, especially Michelle’s personal holiday touches. Yep, I wanted the whole affair to be full of pomp and circumstance. Oh well, maybe Hillary will host Crispy Christie in ’16.

    • 50 Japa21
      November 29, 2012 at 10:03 am

      Grandchildren always are garnted exemptions. On a practical matter, the only thing that always bothered me about on-line shopping was the amount of tax money lost to the states and local governments. However, I am seeing more and more sites adding the state sales tax, which I am fine with. I figure the savings in gas and wear and tear is worth it.

      • 51 cookemom
        November 29, 2012 at 10:10 am

        My state (lilnois) charges taxes for on-line purchases. I don’t have a problem with it cause I did all of my holiday shopping in my PJs, munching on sweet potato pie.

    • 52 cookemom
      November 29, 2012 at 10:06 am

      make that I paid over twice the cost of the item in shipping…..but it was really, really cute (still trying to justify the purchase).

    • 53 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      November 29, 2012 at 11:54 am

      lol RE: Shipping Cost. Yesterday, I was placing and order from Sherri’s Berries using a Groupon; was going to order two of the same item, both shipped to my home and the were going to charge two separate S&H fees. They lost the sale of one item — my groupon covered the cost of what I ordered; no UP sale…

  18. 54 desertflower
    November 29, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Have a great day! Off to work:)

  19. 55 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 9:58 am
  20. November 29, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Gooooooood morning, TODville! What a fantastic and fun morning round-up!

  21. 58 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:17 am

    The GOP officially hates Thursday :D

  22. 60 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:18 am
    • 61 Japa21
      November 29, 2012 at 10:22 am

      And the Walton family has another reason to hate him. Not that they didn’t have enough already. Interesting that you didn’t see any Costco employees picketing on Black Friday.

      • 62 taiping1
        November 29, 2012 at 11:36 am

        CostCo is blue and takes good care of its employees; also goes out of its way to make accommodations when injured employees return to work.

    • 63 daisydem
      November 29, 2012 at 10:50 am

      I love me some Joe Biden, I really do. Now when hubby and I go to Cotsco and flash our card, I will think of him and it will make my shopping all that more special. I just can’t wait until we have some new trains and he and I take a ride down (or up) the East Coast together. I can dream, can’t I?

    • 64 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm

      Completely authentic! I love it!

  23. 65 pugeretto
    November 29, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Good morning everyone, and another beautiful post. I went back to look at the Christmas decorations today on my computer….beautiful. Thanks for the pctures/posts Chips.

  24. 66 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:25 am

    More good news.

  25. 67 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:33 am
  26. 70 HZ
    November 29, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Good Morning Chips and my TOD Family. Look like we have so many things to give thanks for again today. Things are moving in the right directitons.

    Fred’s candle is lit and the other candles all over the house are lit as well. Music is on and prayers and meditations have been sent throughout my space.

    Amazing Grace to our POTUS and VPOTUS. ((((((((((( We thank God for both of them))))))))))))). Grant them wisdom Almighty Creator.

    We will move with peace in our steps, wisdom with our words, and hand ready to help those who cross our paths. Hug your family members and just whisper in their loving ears, “I love and appreciate you so very much.”

    Look around and count your blessings. If you can’t of one, just put your hand to your mouth and breathe. Yes, that is a blessing. Then go and eat a little breakfast, yes, that is a blessing, and look up, and if there is a roof over your head, yes, that is a blessing, if you have clothes in your closet, yes, that is a blessing, and if you can move your fingers on your computer and read this(excuse the mistakes) yes, that is a blessing.

    And finally, if you have just finished reading what our beautiful Chips has posted here today, yes that is a blessing to be in this beautiful and wonderful space where we have a beautiful man in the Oval Office with a great team. We are Americans with faith to move and do what is right for All Americans. We are Blessed this morning.(((((((( I love you all so much.)))))))))))HZ

    • 71 HZ
      November 29, 2012 at 10:38 am

      should read, “If you can’t fine one,…..”HZ

      • 72 HZ
        November 29, 2012 at 7:39 pm

        Early morning writing /grammar is not working for this little senior.

        That really should be: “If you can’t find, not fine. I do apologize to the ‘fine writers” in my TOD family.HZ

    • 73 symmetry11
      November 29, 2012 at 10:45 am

      Reading your words HZ is a blessing. You are just wonderful. ((((hugs))))

      • 74 HZ
        November 29, 2012 at 7:43 pm

        Symmetry11, it is so wonderful to see you here. I do not get to see you, or I miss your comments. Thank you so much. I hope all is going great in your family.(((( Love you back so much)))))))HZ

    • 77 sherijr
      November 29, 2012 at 10:55 am

      You are loved in return (((((HZ)))))) ~ you’re always inspiring, always so nurturing. Thank you. Also thinking of Fred & hope all is well and that we hear from her soon.

      • 78 HZ
        November 29, 2012 at 7:48 pm

        Sherijr, thank you so much. You all give me so much love daily, and I just feel like returning the gratefulness. (((((((( Love you back so much)))))))))

        (((((((((((((( We Will Keep those hugs, prayers going forth for our Fred.))))))))))))))))HZ

    • November 29, 2012 at 10:59 am

      ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ HZ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

      • 80 HZ
        November 29, 2012 at 7:51 pm

        Chips, this home that you so lovingly share with all of us is truly a blessing to my heart and my life. Thank you, my special angel always.
        (((((((((((((( Lots of love coming your way always from my space.)))))))))))))))))))HZ

    • 81 susanne
      November 29, 2012 at 2:15 pm

      aloha oe~
      hz your words bring such peace and joy to my heart! thank you for saying just what we need.

  27. November 29, 2012 at 10:38 am
  28. 91 FoxfireTX
    November 29, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Good morning all. So great to get the good news on 3Q growth and the upswing in the housing sector. Once we get beyond this fiscal cliff deal it looks like we’re finally going to see serious growth going forward.

    I give the President huge credit for doing this lunch with Mittens. He is much more gracious than I could ever be. Given the way Romney disrespected PBO and the office of the presidency throughout the campaign, I personally would not have what it takes to sit down with him for a meal. I am also so pleased that PBO seems to be holding firm on his positions with respect to the tax rate change. It will be an interesting December. But most of all I love seeing FLOTUS again and what she is doing with the WH for the holidays. Does anyone know if the tribute to the military families at the WH ver the holidays is something that existed pre-Obama or is this something they started? I love the emphasis on the military families and heros, and hope it continues as a tradition even after the next four years.

  29. 92 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Huge news.

    • 93 Lorraine
      November 29, 2012 at 10:54 am

      I have a question about DOMA. There are atleast 31 States that have a Constitutional amendments recognizing marriage as one man and one women. If the Supremes strike down this legislation what happens to those States are they Federally bound to recognize homosexual marriages. If the Supremes up hold DOMA those States that have homosexual marriages would they be voided?

      • 94 sherijr
        November 29, 2012 at 10:59 am

        I think federal law would supercede state law.

      • 95 FoxfireTX
        November 29, 2012 at 11:26 am

        It will depend on the basis that DOMA is struck down, if it is. If the Court finds that DOMA violates the equal protection clause of the US Constitution, then the state constitutions and laws banning same sex marriage would fall as well. For example, states can’t engage in laws that discriminate against AA or women because of federal protection. But on a cautionary note for those who are hopeful, the Supreme Court has a very long tradition of striking down a law, if it does so, on as NARROW a basis as possible. So even if they strike down DOMA, if they find a very narrow basis to do it, the ruling may not necessarily impact state constitution and laws.

        • 96 Lorraine
          November 29, 2012 at 11:33 am

          Thank you for responding to my question.

          • 97 FoxfireTX
            November 29, 2012 at 11:55 am

            Happy to do so Lorraine. The interplay between state and federal law is a fascinating aspect of our democracy although at times frustrating. And in striking down federal laws, there is good reason for limiting the ruling as much as possible. There is no further review of Supreme Court decisions which is the reason historically the Court is reluctant to strike down laws. We can throw the bums out, hopefully, if we don’t like what they are legislating but we can’t touch the Supreme Court. There is also a push and pull in the Supreme Court, i.e., “actoivist” judges. It is part of the reason that I remain very concerned about the ruling on ACA. Although the Court upheld it as a “tax”, the language of the decision reflects a much narrower view of Congress’ power under the Commerce Clause, which was the basis for the WH’s claim to uphold, than Congress has used for decades. I sm afraid with the current composition of the Supreme Court they may use that ruling to strike down future legislation when Congress would have assumed it would withstand scrutiny under the Commerce Clause based on past decisions.

      • 98 theo67
        November 29, 2012 at 1:03 pm

        I honestly can’t see the Federal court striking down an equality measure. That would be outrageous!

  30. 99 xtine
    November 29, 2012 at 10:44 am

    [A couple or so comments to Deaniac's post @ TPV]:

    Aquagranny911:

    PBO is already “engaging us in the conversation through:

    http://www.theaction.org/

    I also received an email today on how much more I can do & I WILL!!!

    I did not work for months registering voters, canvassing etc for our President & Dems just to let the Repugnant goatfiggers fuck the American people through their racism, obstructionism & general idiocy with out a fight.

    We all need to be kicking ass every day, not just on Repubs but Dems too. Bury them in emails, phone calls & faxes. They all need to be doing the business of the people. Also give Harry Reid some moral support. That little scrapper is standing strong!

    President Obama has had our back for four years now we got to keep on having his!

    ——————-

    Norbrook:

    I love the sound of Republicans screaming in the morning! It sounds like … victory. What’s causing panic attacks for them is the realization that they’re way out on a limb, and the President is now getting ready to saw it off, after asking them if they’d like to get off the limb.

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    NefariousNewt:

    Boehner & McConnell seem to have forgotten one salient point, that may have slipped their minds as they have wallowed in their political power over the last few years: We, The People are their bosses. The President is taking his case to the people who really matter in this budget fracas: the people who elected them. All this posturing in the Republican Party is the uncomfortable shuffling of men who are just now catching wind of the fact that Americans are finally fed up with them enough to end their tenures in Congress no matter how much PAC money is spent.

    If McConnell & Boehner want to see leadership from the President, they are looking at it; perhaps they don’t recognize it because they’ve never had it themselves.

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/11/republicans-flip-out-as-obama-takes.html

    • 100 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 1:30 pm

      “If McConnell & Boehner want to see leadership from the President, they are looking at it; perhaps they don’t recognize it because they’ve never had it themselves.”

      Brilliant!

  31. 104 xtine
    November 29, 2012 at 10:51 am

    [Well, well! Why don't they just simply hide behind a bush?! Smartypants quoting Bill King]:

    “I talked to an old Capitol Hill hand this week who predicted the following: There will be no deal before Jan. 2, and all of the spending cuts and tax increases will, at least technically, go into effect. However, within a matter of days, or perhaps even hours, a preapproved package will be adopted by both sides that rolls back some of the spending cuts and many of the tax increases, but leaves the new higher rates on the wealthy intact. When this “package” is brought to the floor of the House, tax rates will have already gone up, and so a vote to approve the package will technically be a vote to reduce tax rates. Thus, a Republican who has signed Norquist’s pledge can honestly say he or she never voted to increase taxes.

    “Of course, it is all complete sophistry. But hey, if it gets us past the fiscal cliff/slope, so be it.”

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2012/11/obama-and-democrats-on-messagenow-its.html

  32. 105 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Looks like VP Biden enjoyed himself at Costco.

  33. 106 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 11:00 am

    VP Biden at Costco continued.

    • 107 PoliticalJunkessa
      November 29, 2012 at 11:34 am

      Thanks for the updates, UT!

      So glad to hear VPJB enjoying himself and Costco getting some well-deserved shine. Woot!

      • 108 HZ
        November 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

        PJ, you are so correct. Our beautiful VP is so loving and gracious. He is so cute having so much fun. Costco will also being seeing me very soon. I just get in so much trouble when I go in there. I go for the fish, and the lamb, and come out with the “sweets” and other goodies. Our loving VP was chewing all through his trip while in the store. Loved it.HZ

        • 109 PoliticalJunkessa
          November 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm

          I am going to visit Costco, too, HZ. I really don’t need warehouse sized goods, but I’m sure I can find something! Glad to hear from you. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

  34. 110 xtine
    November 29, 2012 at 11:02 am

    [LOL! x47K!!] Jennifer Rubin on Stevens Op-Ed, etc.:

    “But Stevens fails in precisely the way in which the campaign failed: a refusal to acknowledge real and material incompetence by himself and others on the campaign. The piece stubbornly refuses to express regrets or apologies for a campaign that, as evidence has come forth, makes “The Perils of Pauline” look like the Rockettes.

    ///////

    “Well, that tautology pretty much sums up the attitude during the campaign, in which “in his world” the press was at fault, Obama was at fault, conservatives were at fault, the other pollsters were at fault and foreign policy hawks were at fault but never the Boston team.

    “It would be fitting, and certainly less grating, if Stevens included some real acknowledgment that the narrow loss is, in large part, attributable to the errors (we now know) he and his fellow, well-paid advisers made. He writes as if the only thing he didn’t do right was have a winning campaign. Hardly.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/stuart-stevens-should-have-kept-it-to-himself/2012/11/28/98d3dbd6-3991-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_blog.html

    • 111 xtine
      November 29, 2012 at 11:07 am

      P.S. My only words to Rubin: please get over the delusion that it was ever a “narrow loss” or, as other pundtwits said, “horse race.” Those are the facts. Truth heals!

      • 112 xtine
        November 29, 2012 at 11:33 am

        [A comment to that article]:

        harrietvane 7:37 AM EST:

        blackwell575, it obviously escaped you that Jennifer Rubin is as much “of the center-left to liberal persuasion” as an Apatosaurus is a small furry vegan mammal…

        It also obviously escaped you that many “of the the conservative persuasion” predicted a huge Obama loss and a repition of the 2010 Republican surge. Not only did that not happen, it did not happen by a far cry. You may think that’s a disaster. The majority of voters is “of a different persuasion”. They think they have the facts – just as much as you think you have the facts.

        A lot of the “dirt and sleaze” you referred to was, btw, originally unearthed by Romney’s Republican opponents in the primaries. And what was unearthed there is lily-white compared to the dirt and sleaze thrown at Obama for the past four years.

        Unless you can acknowledge that as a fact, the rest of your “facts” severly lack credibility….See More

  35. 113 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 11:03 am
  36. 114 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 11:03 am
  37. November 29, 2012 at 11:13 am

    OMG, I LOVE JOE BIDEN.

  38. 119 Don
    November 29, 2012 at 11:21 am

    I’ll be glad when this silly little dance that President Obama has to do with Romney is over. Fuck Mitt Romney, he doesn’t deserve a special invitation to the Whitehouse, if he wants to go the Whitehouse let him stand in line like everyone else.

  39. November 29, 2012 at 11:21 am

    McConnell slams the door on raising tax rates in deficit deal
    Alexander Bolton
    11/29/12 10:14 AM ET
    The Republican leader scolded President Obama for insisting on tax increases and said Democrats are intent on “wealth destruction.”…


    However, if consumers keep spending, who gives s shit about the fiscal cliff?

  40. November 29, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Your feel good story of the day or in my case, aka a good cry. Cop buys boots for a homeless man:

    NYPD Officer Caught On-Camera Doing Really Nice Thing

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/nypd-buys-boots-for-homeless-man-viral-picture.html

  41. 130 Don
    November 29, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Why my President has to receive this motherfucker like he’s some visiting dignitary is beyond me. Romney is nothing but a scam-artist and tax-dodger.

    • 131 utaustinliberal
      November 29, 2012 at 11:29 am

      Pres. Obama is an adult. Enlightened adults don’t resort to childish behavior.

      • 132 Don
        November 29, 2012 at 11:33 am

        I know, but it just rubs me something bad that this guy gets the chance to sit and talk with President Obama. And you and I both know that when this is over, Romney is going to say something insulting and or stupid about President Obama.

        • 133 utaustinliberal
          November 29, 2012 at 11:42 am

          Then it’ll just erase more goodwill anyone had toward him just like his “free gifts” comments quickly erased the good feeling some felt towards him after his concession speech. Pres. Obama remains the bigger person for it and Romney will keep looking petty.

          • 134 debz
            November 29, 2012 at 11:44 am

            Politico has photos of all Presidents meeting with the “losers” going back to Bush 41. It would appear this is a common practice.

        • 135 nabsentia23
          November 29, 2012 at 1:25 pm

          Actually, what Obama is doing is pretty normal in DC (or use to be). There will also be colleagues or in this case, fellow politicians, who you utterly can’t stand. However, if you want to remain a professional and to be seen as such, you are cordial with these people.

          Unfortunately, the political polarization in DC has made this more difficult. However, Obama can see beyond this and this is good thing.

    • 136 dotster3
      November 29, 2012 at 11:36 am

      President Obama is bigger in thought and deed than most everyone else.

  42. 139 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Very interesting.

    • 140 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      Yes – just give the Palestinians their statehood, and let them get on with it. Get them out from under the thumb of the Israelis, who clearly don’t seem to be interested in negotiations. Let them deal with each other as equals.

  43. 141 xtine
    November 29, 2012 at 11:39 am

    For those of us who can’t get enough of our lovely FLOTUS (oh, and POTUS too!), there are some stunning photos here that I hadn’t seen before:

    http://www.caslight.org/michelle.html

  44. November 29, 2012 at 11:48 am

    So, I come Home from Beach with my Black Lab, and I flip on Boner.
    He is blaming The President, saying that we must cut, cut, cut.
    This is not getting solved, they will wait for their cuts when we have to raise the debt Celing. That’s their plan!
    Sorry for the eye opener, but the President does not have as much leverage as being reported. Makes me believe he is being set up from the left, and then when the debt Celing has to be raised, it signals August 2011 all over again.
    The leverage the President has, is before January 1, 2013. After that, the leverage flips to Republicans.
    And the Republicans hate when the President takes the message to the People, they would rather bully Him in the K Street DC Culture that we have.
    That is all!

    • November 29, 2012 at 11:56 am

      Not true!The leverage the President has, is before January 1, 2013. After that, the leverage flips to Republicans.
      obama all ways have a plan even if he don’t have the leverage. a black men won 8 years, He is a very smart president if he can get this done I have no problem with the other problems in the world

      • November 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

        I hope so, because the Republicans plan is becoming more and more clear.
        The media has picked up on it also, the last two questions was about the debt ceiling.
        Boner said any increase in the debt ceiling should be accompanied by the same amount of cuts.
        So i ask you? Why would the President do a deal now, knowing he has to do another deal during the debt ceiling?
        He needs to do both, or Boner will hit us twice with cuts.
        It’s sickening.
        What is true is that the President is prepared to go over cliff, and get rid of those GOD awful Bush tax cuts once and for all.

  45. 149 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Boehner’s press briefing is hilarious. He slammed Pres. Obama for not providing details on spending cuts yet he himself did not provide any details on spending cuts. Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?

    He then said “We’re spending too much. We need spending cuts.” Press asked him to give specific details on the spending cuts. He replied: We’re spending too much!” :lol: :lol:

    He then said America needs leadership from Pres. Obama not a victory lap. Says the man who spent 2010 and 2011 crowing and going on multiple victory laps.

    • 150 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 1:59 pm

      The next four years will be President Obama’s victory lap – Boehner and his cronies better just get used to it.

  46. 151 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 29, 2012 at 11:56 am
  47. November 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    pic.twitter.com/hqQzodBw

  48. 154 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    This fiscal cliff thing is a ginned up, manufactured controversy. The Bush tax rates will expire and go up as of January 1st. The ball is in the House GOP’s court. They can whine, kick, scream and throw fits all they want. The structural advantage is with the President now and will continue to be with him on this issue until it is resolved one way or the other.

    Republicans don’t, and won’t, have the leverage on this issue, point blank. No need for confusion or chicken-littling.

  49. November 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    G’m all. Great R&S round-up Chips. Rachel’s clip is awesome. I’m convinced McCain has fully lost
    all his marbles and just operating on fumes.

    Prayers still going up for Fred. Hope she is comforted with all the good vibes coming from TOD.

  50. November 29, 2012 at 12:21 pm
  51. November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Ezra Klein interviewed Crystah Freeland.

    EK: One explanation for the deteriorating relationship between Obama and this class of very, very rich folks is that it comes down to taxes. But in 2008, many of these same people supported Obama, and he said then, too, that he wanted to raise their taxes. Another explanation is that the dislike is personal: They feel that Obama doesn’t respect them, and so they hate him. Where do you come down?

    CF: I think that it was both. I do think that Obama was particularly bad at dealing with these guys. Unnecessarily so. And I don’t really understand why. It’s of a piece with the general knock on him, which is that he’s too aloof. He was certainly aloof with his rich donors.

    I’ve heard from people who worked in the White House that he doesn’t like rich people. I don’t actually think it’s true. I think he has a kind of Harvard Law School sense of kinship with these guys. He’s a member of the same technocratic elite. He could have taken that path. He has an admiration for those skills. But what he doesn’t have at all is a belief that the pure fact of having made a lot of money makes your views more valuable, or makes you more interesting or smarter than anyone else.

    But remember, there are two different issues. One is, are you going to pay a higher tax bill? At the end of the day, rich people really don’t want to, and I think they’re finding they’re more averse to it than they actually thought they would be as it comes closer to reality. But second, iIthink what Obama has done is quite striking: he has said the economy isn’t working for everybody, and he has said it’s possible in this economy for economic acts to take place that are really good for a wealthy person and neutral or even bad for the middle class. The Bain Capital ads were such a lightning rod and so alienating even to some Democrats because they put that on the table. That is something no one has said in political power for 30 years. That is profoundly threatening for this group. It’s threatening politically, but it’s also emotionally and morally threatening.

    I think the thing which has been so comfortable about being a member of the super-rich, especially in the United States, is that you have been able to feel that the act of becoming wealthy, absent everything else, was also an act of civic virtue. That’s so wonderful! You’re not just pursuing your own self-interest talking about lower taxes at the top but the collective self-interest.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/11/28/romney-is-wall-streets-worst-bet-since-the-bet-on-subprime/

    • 160 amk for obama
      November 29, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      BS post. The whole piece is ezra klein sucking up to wall streeters. Not worthy to be posted here.

    • 161 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      i stopped reading halfway through Crystah’s response. How do these idiots explain the President’s relationship with rich people like himself, his wife, Warren Buffett, the slew of celebrities who support him (George Clooney, SJ Parker), Bill Gates, Oprah, his best friends… the list goes on. Ezra and Crystah are idiots, and they have no idea what they’re talking about.

  52. 162 dotster3
    November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    What up with all the attacks on Martin Bashir’s show lately, calling it the worst show on msnbc, and, in the history of the world, according to some critics? I don’t get it. I love his program, his blunt truth-telling, his guests, the entertaining production of his program, all of it. This over the top criticism seems curious to me, some ulterior motive at work.

    • 163 utaustinliberal
      November 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      I haven’t heard any criticism but as you say, I like his blunt style. He isn’t afraid to tell the truth and point out the BS. The critics are sourpusses.

      • November 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm

        They’ve been going after him big time UT – Charles Pierce, Mediaite and, needless to say, Brazil boy Glenn ‘Koch’ Greenwald.

        • 165 utaustinliberal
          November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm

          That’s just pathetic. I watch him and he is brilliant. I love his bluntness and how he does not let either side slink from the truth. Mediaite are such gossip hags and Glen Greenwald well, we all know that dude has problems.

    • 166 Betsy
      November 29, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      I admit that I love Martin but don’t get to watch his show because I work during that time. Where are people complaining about this? Twitter? I haven’t seen the complaints myself. Martin is great so I am like you, not understanding these attacks.

    • 167 xtine
      November 29, 2012 at 1:07 pm

      Someone wants his show!

    • 168 Puddin'
      November 29, 2012 at 3:55 pm

      I haven’t seen the attacks on Martin’s show. IMO his one of the decent political shows on TV. I think Tweety’s Hardball is the worst show on MSNBC.

  53. November 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    • 170 xtine
      November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm

      Damn, where’s the yellow cab? :)

    • 171 miss pat
      November 29, 2012 at 1:58 pm

      Took a shower, washed his hair used lots of products in it too. Cleans up pretty well. He doesn’t look too happy to be there. Well, he better enjoy it. It’s the only invite he will get. Obligatory invite that the winner extends to the loser. Mrs. Greenspan said “As the President arrives.” She had a sllip of the tongue? Nah, she was wishing and hoping.

      • 172 theo67
        November 29, 2012 at 2:06 pm

        I’m always suspicious of these “slips of the tongue”. I heard one yesterday refer to President Obama as “President Clinton”, and I thought – Clinton hasn’t been President for 12 years. Is this guy serious?!

  54. November 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I just don’t know how to get this to make this graph show up that illustrates the different business models of Costco and Walmart. I put it on twitter, using twitter and tried two different urls and neither made the image appear: https://twitter.com/tienle47/status/274197453790646273

  55. 176 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Just saw video of Romney going to the white house for the lunch meeting with Pres. Obama. It was hilarious.

  56. 177 Ladyhawke
    November 29, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Press Secretary Jay (Clark Kent) Carney will be briefing the jackals momentarily.

  57. 178 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Thinking about Willard going to the White House as PBO’s *guest* and I had a flashback to Miss Ann saying, “It’s our turn” and Willard telling the President to “start packing” during the campaign.

    All I can do is :lol: :lol: :lol:

  58. November 29, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    One of my go-to’s Bob Cesca did that piece on Martin Bashir.


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