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Rise and Shine

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Today:

12:15: President Obama signs H.R. 6156 (see here)

12:30: Jay Carney briefs the press

2:15: Michelle Obama visits the Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, D.C.

3:30: President Obama meets with Ambassador Susan Rice

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Susan Rice (Washington Post): On Thursday I asked that President Obama no longer consider me for the job of secretary of state. I made this decision because it is the right step for this country I love. I have never shied away from a fight for a cause I believe in. But, as it became clear that my potential nomination would spark an enduring partisan battle, I concluded that it would be wrong to allow this debate to continue distracting from urgent national priorities — creating jobs, growing our economy, addressing our deficit, reforming our immigration system and protecting our national security.

These are the issues that deserve our focus, not a controversy about me….

Full piece here

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Jonathan Bernstein: Don’t jump to conclusions about Susan Rice …. I’d caution everyone to wait a bit before drawing any firm conclusions about what happened here. We don’t know she was Barack Obama’s first choice. We don’t know, if she was the top choice, why she didn’t wind up the pick…..

…. We’ll hear those claims the loudest from whoever has the loudest megaphone (and the Republican partisan press is an awfully loud megaphone). Doesn’t make it more likely that those who take credit the loudest were those responsible. If anyone was responsible.

….. All that said: if Obama backed off of Rice purely because he was afraid of a fight with Republicans, it’s probably a poor choice… although it depends, a bit, on whether he had counted the votes and knew she couldn’t get confirmed, as opposed to simply wanting to avoid a messy but successful confirmation.

More here

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ABC: President Obama says recreational users of marijuana in states that have legalized the substance should not be a “top priority” of federal law enforcement officials prosecuting the war on drugs.

“We’ve got bigger fish to fry,” Obama said of pot users in Colorado and Washington during an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Barbara Walters.

“It would not make sense for us to see a top priority as going after recreational users in states that have determined that it’s legal,” he said, invoking the same approach taken toward users of medicinal marijuana in 18 states where it’s legal.

More of Barbara Walters’ exclusive first joint, post-election interview with President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama airs tonight on “20/20″ at 10 p.m. ET on ABC stations.

More here

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President Barack Obama meets with senior advisors in the Oval Office, Dec. 13, 2012. Pictured, clockwise from the President, are: Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett; Pete Rouse, Counselor to the President; Senior Advisor David Plouffe; Rob Nabors, Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs; Chief of Staff Jack Lew; and Director of Communications Dan Pfeiffer. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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From Cagle

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Paul Krugman: We are not having a debt crisis.

It’s important to make this point, because I keep seeing articles about the “fiscal cliff” that do, in fact, describe it — often in the headline — as a debt crisis. But it isn’t. The U.S. government is having no trouble borrowing to cover its deficit. In fact, its borrowing costs are near historic lows. And even the confrontation over the debt ceiling that looms a few months from now if we do somehow manage to avoid going over the fiscal cliff isn’t really about debt.

No, what we’re having is a political crisis, born of the fact that one of our two great political parties has reached the end of a 30-year road. The modern Republican Party’s grand, radical agenda lies in ruins — but the party doesn’t know how to deal with that failure, and it retains enough power to do immense damage as it strikes out in frustration.

Full article here

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From McClatchy

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President Obama and First Lady Michele Obama speak with Rabbi Larry Bazer, the Joint Forces Chaplain for the Massachusetts National Guard, at the end of the Hanukkah reception at the White House, December 13

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Morning everyone.


208 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 Allison
    December 14, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Good Morning All….Hope today will be much better

    • December 14, 2012 at 8:37 am

      Morning Allison, it couldn’t be worse – surely?!

      Morning everyone.

      • December 14, 2012 at 8:47 am

        LOL! G’morning TOD & Chips! :) :) The 24-hr period following PBO’s first presidential debate was worse than this, remember?. In retrospect it may not seem that bad – But.It.Was.Terrible. I know because I wrote a diary on Old Orange in an attempt to calm folks down from the mass hysteria.

        Happy Friday to all and congrats Allison on #1.

        • December 14, 2012 at 8:49 am

          Ah, true Hopefruit, that post-first-debate spell wasn’t pretty, I’m still recovering from my own meltdown :???:

          • 5 jackiegrumbacher
            December 14, 2012 at 9:19 am

            Yes, but we all picked ourselves up and worked harder after that debate. A friend in the Chicago OFA said that they were getting just a little bit complacent after Romney’s lousy summer. He said the first debate energized them and they were never complacent again. Said he wanted to ask the president if he did it on purpose to make his team work harder. This last fiasco with McBitter and his fellow snakes has certainly energized me to work harder to get new voters registered and keep other voters informed. We got people out to vote in November. Now people have to see voting as a habit so they never, ever miss a chance to cast their ballots. Revenge at the voting booth is our best strategy from this day on.

            • December 14, 2012 at 9:23 am

              “Revenge at the voting booth is our best strategy”

              + 1,000,000,000.

              I’d love to think the people who stayed home in 2010 now understand how costly a decision that was.

              • 7 anniebella
                December 14, 2012 at 10:05 am

                What I think about if all these people had got out to vote in 2010, there would be no speaker John Boehner, it still would have been Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

      • 8 xtine
        December 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

        Hey, it’s Friday for real! Where’s CTGirl! :)

        I actually don’t think the reactions I’ve read are anywhere near first debate meltdown! Now that was nooklar material! Had to duck & cover! LOL!

        Dr. Rice is going to continue doing a fab job & enjoy her life. McC is going to turn into a fossil prune and his ignorant cohorts will find their careers grinding to an absolute halt.

        Have a Fabulous Friday! “Life is a song worth singing …” Teddy Pendergrass.

    • 12 jacquelineoboomer
      December 14, 2012 at 9:24 am

      Congrats on 1st, Allison!

      I like this, from Dr. Rice’s own words: “These are the issues that deserve our focus, not a controversy about me … ” What a woman! So glad she’s still part of the Obama administration, and landed on her feet. She’s another one with a steely determination to see our President succeed. And they both will.

      Good morning, TOD! Looks as though I underslept a bit. Gotta be the sunshine pouring in!

  2. 13 NurseShar
    December 14, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Morning all

  3. 15 utaustinliberal
    December 14, 2012 at 8:43 am

    In important news today.

    President Obama says the federal government will not target recreational users of marijuana in states that have now legalized pot.

    “We’ve got bigger fish to fry,” Obama told Barbara Walters of ABC News, in his first public comments on the topic since Colorado and Washington voter to legalize marijuana on Nov. 6 referendums.

    “It would not make sense for us to see a top priority as going after recreational users in states that have determined that it’s legal,” Obama said.

    The government takes a similar approach in the 18 states where medicinal marijuana is legal.

    Walters’ interview of Obama airs Friday night on ABC’s 20/20.

    Obama also told Walters he does not “at this point” support widespread legalization of marijuana.

    “This is a tough problem, because Congress has not yet changed the law,” Obama said. “I head up the executive branch; we’re supposed to be carrying out laws. And so what we’re going to need to have is a conversation about, how do you reconcile a federal law that still says marijuana is a federal offense and state laws that say that it’s legal?”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/12/14/obama-marijuana-pot-users-colorado-washington/1769013/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=206567

    • 16 hopefruit2
      December 14, 2012 at 8:56 am

      Thanks UT for the info. Yet a week ago, someone at old Orange penned a diary bases on a highly speculative and unsourced piece from the NYT that PBO was going to sue the states that legalized pot! Again, it generated hysteria and accusations of “betrayal” on Old Orange, Twitter and elsewhere.

      • 17 dotster3
        December 14, 2012 at 9:07 am

        I guess I should be used to it by now, but there always seems to be so many on “the left” who are ready to explode at a moment’s notice——–they’re off and hyperventilating and ready to jump at the slightest perceived injustice. And, as it turns out, almost every time it is all for naught—–lots of wasted huffing and puffing. And again, I am seeing some of the most preposterous accusations in connection with Susan Rice withdrawing. And again, I see those who do not have President Obama’s best interests at heart trying to stir up animosity toward him because of this development. And again, I see those who should know better falling into the trap.

      • December 14, 2012 at 9:10 am

        Whiny Kos is not the authority. Majority are Firebaggers.

      • 20 jackiegrumbacher
        December 14, 2012 at 9:21 am

        Hysteria and outrage bring hits, HF, and that’s all anyone needs to know about that place.

    • 21 Don
      December 14, 2012 at 9:03 am

      So are you telling me that President Obama isn’t out to crack-down on nickle-baggers?

  4. December 14, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD family. Happy TGIF. Congrats Allison on being first this lovely Friday morning.

    • December 14, 2012 at 8:53 am

      Thanks DF, enjoyed that, added it to the post.

    • 30 Vicki Green
      December 14, 2012 at 9:45 am

      I read the piece this am as I always read Professor Krugman. 99 times out of 100 I agree with his view.
      Like him or don’t like him the remarkable thing about PK, very much like PBO, is that he does not cater to current fashionable ideas but has a consistent longterm view of things.

      If you look at or read something the President has said as far back as 1991 you will recognize the same themes as today: inclusiveness is good. Fairness essential. Value diversity .
      PK knows the economic universe and explains it to us over and over again. Definitely one of the good guys.

    • December 14, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      Always with the doom and gloom with this guy. Is he genetically incapable of experiencing hope? Of positivity? Does he have even ONE idea on how to deal with this scenario he paints. No.

  5. 32 Sweetpeg
    December 14, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Good Morning All! Today is Family Friday….enjoy your Family today!

  6. 33 Don
    December 14, 2012 at 8:54 am

    At this point in time we should only focus on those that want to be saved. Every goddamn election cycle the voters shoot themselves in the foot and then complain that it hurts. There is no goddamn way that the people in these right-to-work states didn’t know that their governors weren’t going to bend them over.

  7. 41 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 8:58 am

  8. December 14, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Does anyone know what happened?

    • 43 amk for obama
      December 14, 2012 at 9:07 am

      Deaniac? What happened ? LL, you know anything?

      • December 14, 2012 at 9:12 am

        I assume Deaniac runs that Twitter account?? I thought at first he was referring to the Susan Rice news, but I don’t think he is, it seems to be something else pre-dating that. Just hope he’s okay.

    • 45 hopefruit2
      December 14, 2012 at 9:10 am

      It’s not clear whether it’s related to the whole Rice issue or something else. But if it, then I think people need to take a deep breath and step back from the MSM, and politics. The MSM is agitating PBO’s supporters by claiming that PBO/Rice gave in to McCain & Graham. The media does not have the best interests of PBO or his supporters and they will do whatever is necessary to keep controversy alive and maintain DEM in-fighting.

      • December 14, 2012 at 9:17 am

        Hi Hopefruit, we posted at much the same time. I could be wrong, but I don’t think it’s about Susan Rice, he seemed to be explaining why he hasn’t been writing a lot lately, ie before yesterday.

        • 47 hopefruit2
          December 14, 2012 at 9:20 am

          Yes I noticed a long gap of no posts between Dec 3 and Dec 11. I hope whatever it is doesn’t keep him down for too long.

          • December 14, 2012 at 9:22 am

            That’s true, there was a gap, it never occurred to me something was wrong. Hope he’s okay.

          • 49 jackiegrumbacher
            December 14, 2012 at 9:27 am

            HF, he hadn’t written in a while and I was concerned that he was sick. Then he wrote a brilliant post the other day. Personal stuff can really drag you down and I hope, whatever it is, he can work it through. He’s one of the sharpest, most insightful people writing today. I love Deaniac’s posts.

        • 51 lisalovesobama
          December 14, 2012 at 11:40 am

          hey Chips, it sounds personal. Like something not so great happened in his personal life so right now he’s not in a good place to write about politics, i.e; in his tweets he talks about “heartbreak” and “breach of trust.”

          • December 14, 2012 at 11:49 am

            It does Lisa, it sounds like something really devastating for him – as you say, something personal. Initially I just thought he was responding to yesterday’s events, but then realized it wasn’t that. I just hope he’ll be okay soon and looks after himself. He’s a voice of reason for us all.

  9. 53 hopefruit2
    December 14, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I saw an update on Twitter from Marabout (Hachiko) that the surgery went well and she’s now at home resting.

  10. December 14, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Goooood morning! Looky there, it’s Friday! I am optimistic today will be a great day! :-)

    Chips!!! Thanks for holding it together for us yesterday – I know it must have been draining to deal with all the venting, and such :-(.

  11. 67 hopefruit2
    December 14, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Love this pic! :)

    • 68 jacquelineoboomer
      December 14, 2012 at 9:35 am

      Give me a second to decide which one is more adorable. Okay, for me, it’s Joey, but she’s adorable, too!

      • December 14, 2012 at 10:03 am

        I fell in love with Debbie Wasserman Schultz back in ’08. for me, she proved to be the true deal – fierce supporter of HRC but when it came time to get behind BO, she was a star! I love them both :-)

  12. December 14, 2012 at 9:29 am

    *** The importance of picking your fights: To explain why U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice pulled out of consideration for the secretary of state post, it’s important to remember this: A president only gets a finite number of fights with Congress, especially in the first year of a second term (which may be the last BIG year a president can win fights with Congress). And appointing Rice as secretary of state was going to be a fight, no doubt about it. So if you’re a White House with a big upcoming agenda (resolving the fiscal-cliff situation, passing comprehensive immigration reform, maybe tackling energy or education) and if you’re split on the top choice on the secretary of state (our reporting indicates that Rice was never the clear-cut favorite), sometimes the path of least resistance is the smart play. And Rice made that very point in her interview on “Rock Center” with NBC’s Brian Williams: “I didn’t want to see a confirmation process that was very prolonged — very politicized, very distracting, and very disruptive. Because there are so many things we need to get done as a country.” Remember, Obama and his team have always been pragmatists, though that pragmatism also brings criticism like this Buzzfeed piece entitled, “Obama Shows Weakness, Again.” But make no mistake: Rice isn’t going away, and she likely gets the next big foreign-policy opening. She took one for Team Obama, and he’ll remember that down that road. And Obama meets with Rice at the White House later today…

    http://firstread.msnbc.com

  13. December 14, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Obama agenda: Cabinet shuffle coming soon

    A slew of appointments coming? Next week could see appointments for State (Kerry), Defense (Hagel), and the CIA (Donilon), as well as Energy, which could come later (Ashton Carter).

    Of Rice, the Boston Globe writes: “Now she can still be a player and possibly get another top post in his second term — such as national security adviser, which does not require Senate confirmation. ‘It was good way to get out of this box that was getting tighter and tighter,’ said an administration official who was not authorized to speak publicly. Several officials also said the announcement signals that the president will make a decision in the coming days. Two government officials who have spoken with the White House but were not authorized to speak publicly said the announcement could come in the next few days and include several nominations.”
    Obama will meet with Rice today. He will also sign a Russian trade bill.
    John Kerry’s the obvious choice to be Secretary of State, as NBC’s Carrie Dann reports. If he’s nominated it would set off a special election in Massachusetts. How would it work? Gov. Deval Patrick (D) would pick someone to fill the seat and a date for a special election. The special general election is required by state law to take place 145 to 160 days after a vacancy occurs. So if Kerry steps down Wednesday of next week, a special would have to take place between Monday, May 13 and Tuesday, May 28. The primary is required to be six weeks before the general. That would put it be between Monday, April 1 and Tuesday, April 16.

    If, however, Kerry steps down, Monday, Jan. 21st, the date President Obama would be sworn in for a second term, the special election primary would have to take place between Friday, May 3 and Saturday, May 18. The special general would then have to take place between Friday, June 14 and Saturday, June 29.

    The AP: “During the 2010 special election – prompted by the death of longtime Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy from brain cancer – Gov. Deval Patrick said he would only appoint someone as interim senator if they agreed not to run in the special election, and he appointed former Democratic Party chairman Paul Kirk. Under current law, if Kerry resigns Patrick would appoint an interim senator to serve until a special election could be held. Asked recently if he would seek the same promise if Kerry stepped down, Patrick said it was too soon say. Patrick has said he would prefer a system where he could appoint someone to serve until the next statewide election in 2014, but said there’s no appetite on Beacon Hill to change the law. Even if there is a special Senate election in 2013, the state still faces another regularly scheduled Senate election in 2014, which would be the end of Kerry’s current term. That would be the fourth Senate election in Massachusetts in five years.”
    Back in November, Patrick said he’s sign a bill that would eliminate the need for a special election. “But,” he added, “I don’t think it’s going to come to me. I don’t think anybody is interested in that.”

    http://firstread.msnbc.com

    • 76 hopefruit2
      December 14, 2012 at 9:41 am

      • 77 Bill
        December 14, 2012 at 9:52 am

        Other than for name recognition is that a good idea?

        • 78 hopefruit2
          December 14, 2012 at 9:58 am

          Better idea than Scott Brown.

        • 80 Nena20409
          December 14, 2012 at 10:04 am

          Name recognition for ONE. Ability to raise Money for TWO. She is not a newbie for THREE. She understands politics and she is No Body’s Fool for FOUR. She is not the fatuous bat poop, Coakley for FIVE. Etc, etc, etc…..as Yul Bryunner(sp) would have said.

        • 81 theo67
          December 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm

          She’s accomplished in her own right – a lawyer from Tulane, having practiced banking and bankruptcy law over several years. She’s also an advocate against gun rights. She seems to have an excellent head on her shoulders, and I think she’d make an excellent Senator.

      • 82 utaustinliberal
        December 14, 2012 at 9:58 am

        This is a good thing if she isn’t ruling it out. I know MA is a blue state but they have this quirky liking of putting in republicans (few as they may be) to provide a mix. They’ve done it at the local and state level. I need MA to realize that they cannot decrease the number of Democrats in the senate if they want a senate that works with Pres. Obama. The republican party is not the republican party of yesterday. Scott Brown wasn’t an independent republican, he was lock-step with McConnell in voting against VAWA, contraceptives for women, equal pay for women, decreasing funds for healthcare etc. MA needs to realize that no republican will have their back and no republican will fight for the middle-class over the 1%.

      • December 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

        WOOOOOT!! I’m so encouraged to see she has softened her position on this. It must be painful for her to watch how much MA has gone through since Teddy’s death. She is a smart and very capable women and I believe she may find such a career very engaging and satisfying. Thank you, Gov. Patrick!!

    • 84 amk for obama
      December 14, 2012 at 9:52 am

      why is the frigging msm deciding PBO’s SOS? Fuck’em.

      • 85 Nena20409
        December 14, 2012 at 10:12 am

        Punditry is their art. Pres Obama is Not anybody’s fool. Hilary Clinton was not expected nor were people truly supportive of the SoS selection initially. The only thing that I found truly despicable about the Amb Rice’s current predicament is the way Many on the left are reacting. Some attacking SoS Clinton and Sen Kerry and a few attacking pres Obama. David Corn or someone said the left wants to kill themselves and the right go after the pollsters or dismiss the polls when things didn’t go their way. Their is some truth to that in this event.

        Like Bobfr would say: Trust PBO for he has earned it.

        PBO says: ignore the Cable chatters.

        • 86 jacquelineoboomer
          December 14, 2012 at 10:44 am

          I really like David Corn, who is sometimes one of the few voices of reason out there. Don’t think I’ve ever heard him be anything but supportive of PBO’s agenda, because he “gets it.”

  14. 87 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 9:50 am

  15. 88 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 9:54 am

  16. December 14, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Chips! Did you forget our Friday video? :-)

  17. 94 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

  18. December 14, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Great good Friday morning, TODville!!

    I saw Lincoln yesterday and all I can say is:

    DDL is a GOD.

    WOW, a stunning performance from start to finish. His rugged face, his voice, his posture, his gait – absolutely mesmerizing. I loved the interesting portrayal of the man and his family, the reality of both his emotional and political battles. I loved the soft muted palette and the music was beautiful and not intrusive. BRAVO, Daniel Day Lewis.

  19. December 14, 2012 at 10:08 am

    AP

    PITTSBURGH (AP) — Pittsburgh Steelers chairman and co-owner Dan Rooney is stepping down as the U.S. ambassador to Ireland, a post he assumed after backing President Barack Obama’s presidential campaign despite being a lifelong Republican.

    The embassy in Dublin says the 80-year-old Rooney resigned Friday and returned to the United States. Press officer John Murphy says Rooney met with Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny and President Michael Higgins during a final round of engagements this week.

    Rooney, the grandson of an Irish immigrant, supported Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary and then campaigned for him.

    In an op-ed published Friday in The Irish Times and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Rooney says the relationship between the U.S. and Ireland is as strong as ever. He says the countries’ common heritage and values creates a ‘‘shared kinship.’’

    Omg Obama caved again. LOL!

    • December 14, 2012 at 10:15 am

      Oh wow, I hadn’t heard that – although, because of his age, I think it was anticipated. Wonder who’ll replace him? Hey, Hillary loves Ireland! (Kidding).

      • 102 vcprezofan2
        December 14, 2012 at 10:28 am

        Well, her husband does, doesn’t he, and where he goes, she’ll follow. (Dreams are meant to be encouraged. ;) )

        • December 14, 2012 at 10:30 am

          I think they both do VC, but I’d imagine they’d be bored senseless. Although you do get a very nice house with the job:

          • 104 vcprezofan2
            December 14, 2012 at 10:37 am

            And it’s white! Hmmmmm. Looking more and more like a possibility. Maybe I’ll suggest it to PBO. ;) [Mean, VC, just mean! – Couldn’t resist.]

          • 105 amk for obama
            December 14, 2012 at 10:45 am

            Wow. That’s a beaut.

            • December 14, 2012 at 10:51 am

              Built by the British, needless to say :roll:

              This beautiful home surrounded by sixty two acres of ground was completed in 1776. Built by Col. John Blaquiere, Chief Secretary of the British government and Bailiff of the Phoenix Park.

              The Phoenix Park, embracing 1,760 acres, is reputed to be the largest municipal park in the world within a city’s limits. While it is popularly assumed that it was named after the mythical bird, most Irish experts believe the name may be derived from “Fion Uisce which means “clear water”.

              The house of Col. Blaquiere, purchased by the British Government in 1782,was made the official residence of the Chief Secretary, and remained so until 1922 when Sir Homer Greenwood, the last holder left office. Among the prominent Chief Secretaries who had occupied this residence were Sir Arthur Wellesley, later to become the Duke of Wellington, Sir Robert Peel, Lord Castlereagh. Lord Bryce, later British Ambassador to the United States, W.FI. Smith. When the Duke of Marlborough was appointed Viceroy in 1878, Lord Randolph Churchill joined him as private secretary. Young Winston as a small boy, roamed the gardens and woods and took great delight in riding up and down the paths in his donkey and cart. Sixty nine Chief Secretaries lived here from 1776 until 1922 when Ireland gained its independence.

              http://dublin.usembassy.gov/index/embassy-news/ambassador/ambassadors-residence2.html

          • 113 xtine
            December 14, 2012 at 11:25 am

            Hey, how did you get a photo of my country house? :)

            You’re all invited, BTW! :)

      • 115 xtine
        December 14, 2012 at 10:51 am

        I’d heard a while back that he was going to resign. Most ambassadorships are one-term. Total DC rumormill: whispers that Bill C. would get that post. That didn’t make sense to me.

        • December 14, 2012 at 10:53 am

          I’d be amazed Xtine, I think Bill still wants to fry bigger fish!

          • 117 xtine
            December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am

            Indeed! He’s got his global initiative thingy, so Amb. to Ireland? That doesn’t fly, unless I’m missing something. Any ambassadorship doesn’t fit. Or cabinet post. Maybe short-term Middle East “Special Envoy” so he could try to find some kind of solution for Israeli/Palestinian impasse? Or he goes on his merry way.

            • December 14, 2012 at 11:28 am

              Xtine, my memory for events is so bad I’m not sure how Bill’s involvement in the Israel/Palestine conflict would be greeted by both sides, whether there would be enough trust there, but if there was and he could contribute in any way (like he did in Ireland – and again, I know there are enormous differences), it would be wonderful.

  20. December 14, 2012 at 10:16 am

  21. 120 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 10:20 am

    A family of monkeys has moved into our homestead. They are naughty and creating havoc all around. So, I shot the kid.

  22. 131 vcprezofan2
    December 14, 2012 at 10:24 am

    A very ‘good morning’ to you Allison! ‘Happy Friday’ Ms Chips, CTGirl and all other family members and aspiring family members! I know it’s Friday because Chips asked me to post the Friday video as she was so busy.

  23. 138 jacquelineoboomer
    December 14, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, CT … CNN looking for details. There are no words.

    • December 14, 2012 at 10:41 am

      Just saw the breaking news J, good grief, not again.

      • 140 dotster3
        December 14, 2012 at 10:57 am

        Oh no oh no—–I can’t take this any more. And I have 2 grand kids in 2 elementary schools in Ct.—-not that specific school—-but not far away. This is out of control now in this country—–almost daily horrific shootings now. I think it’s this country’s biggest problem. Something——something!!!—-needs to be done about this!!! It’s insane that nothing is being done about this gun problem——every nut in the country seems to have access to a gun. And is willing to use it. It’s uncivilized.

    • 142 Nena20409
      December 14, 2012 at 10:55 am

      In CT? Lord Have Mercy. Oh no.

      And the story in South Africa on Hon Nelson Mandela is not too good either….per HP.

      • 143 hopefruit2
        December 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm

        Sad news on both counts. However, Honorable Nelson Mandela has lived to a ripe old age and will die of natural causes. We will miss him as a fellow human, and as a global inspirational figure and it’s always sad when a person dies. But his passing is not tragic.

        But a 5-year old being murdered by random gun violence at their elementary school is simply inconceivable and a real tragedy, not just for the victims and their loved ones, but for this entire country.

    • December 14, 2012 at 10:59 am

      Crazy! I see on HuffPost that a teacher was hurt, I also heard that at least 1 police officer was injured – maybe a child was hurt??? Everything is sketchy of course!

      State police are responding to multiple shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School this morning, according to reports.

      All schools in town are locked down.

      The Newtown Bee is reporting one child was carried out by a police officer and apparently was wounded.

      Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Shootings-reported-at-Newtown-school-4118505.php#ixzz2F2gbfVgv

    • 146 xtine
      December 14, 2012 at 11:03 am

      NEWTOWN—
      State police are responding to a report of a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dickinson Drive, school officials said.

      Police are reporting a number of injured parties. The nature of their injuries is not clear.

      State police sources said one shooter is dead. Earlier reports of a second shooter are unconfirmed.

      Shortly after 9:40 a.m., police reported that a shooter was in the main office of the school. A person in one room had “numerous gunshot wounds,” police said.

      Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers. Some students were still in the school at 10:30 a.m., parents said.

      Dozens of state troopers are on the scene assisting local police. Heavily armed police gathered in front of the school around 10:45 a.m., and a number of stretchers were set up.

      A staging area has been set up for students and their parents near the school. Area hospitals have been alerted.
      .

      http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

  24. 153 vcprezofan2
    December 14, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Well, offspring decided he prefers my shower head to the one I bought for his bathroom and the contractor/plumber is here, so I’d better go exchange it AND pick up a few other bits and pieces. Catch you all later.

  25. 157 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Look at these poor kids—-having to flee their school—-crying and scared—-this should not be happening to our kids. Horrific.

    http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

  26. 158 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Little Johnny’s new baby brother was screaming up a storm. He asks his mom, “Where did we get him?”

    His mother replies, “He came from heaven, Johnny.”

    Johnny says, “Yeah ! I can see why they threw him out!”

  27. 164 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am

    A New York Divorce Lawyer died and arrived at the pearly gates. Saint Peter asks him “What have you done to merit entrance into Heaven?”

    The Lawyer thought a moment, then said, “A week ago, I gave a quarter to a homeless person on the street.”

    Saint Peter asked Gabriel to check this out in the record, and after a moment Gabriel affirmed that this was true.

    Saint Peter said, “Well, that’s fine, but it’s not really quite enough to get you into Heaven.”

    The Lawyer said, “Wait Wait! There’s more! Three years ago I also gave a homeless person a quarter.”

    Saint Peter nodded to Gabriel, who after a moment nodded back, affirming this, too, had been verified.

    Saint Peter then whispered to Gabriel, “Well, what do you suggest we do with this feller?”

    Gabriel gave the Lawyer a sidelong glance, then said to Saint Peter, “Let’s give him back his 50 cents and tell him to go to Hell.”

  28. 166 yardarm756
    December 14, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Gooood morning all. Not much to smile about today. Maybe this will help.

    Two hours into my first day of work as a Wal-Mart greeter, an ugly woman came in with her two kids.

    Hearing her swear at them, I said, ‘Good morning, welcome to Wal-Mart. Nice kids, are they twins?’ The mom answered, ‘Hell no, they ain’t twins. The oldest one’s 9, and the other one’s 7. Why would you think they’re twins? Are you blind or stupid?’

    I replied, ‘I’m not blind or stupid. I just couldn’t believe someone slept with you twice. Have a good day, and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart.’ My supervisor said I probably wasn’t cut out for this line of work!

  29. 171 mtmarilyn
    December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD family! Yesterday was a very long working day for me and I am exhausted so today I am able to stay home and recoup. I am so mad that Susan Rice had to write that letter. Today I am going to call McCain, Lindsey, and Ayotte’s office.

    Also this shooting in CT makes me sick. I can just hear the NRA saying if only the children and the teachers had guns they would all be safe. I am tired of regular people not having the right NOT TO BE SHOT!!!!! This is going far enough. I live in MT. We do have several guns but they are all for hunting. I don’t see that anyone need all these guns that are only meant to kill people. We will see what happens next.

    • 172 jacquelineoboomer
      December 14, 2012 at 11:46 am

      *I am tired of regular people not having the right NOT TO BE SHOT*

      Well said, mtmarilyn. God bless the children, and the lawmakers who need to step up and get some damn meaningful gun control laws on the books.

      • 173 mtmarilyn
        December 14, 2012 at 12:22 pm

        We must start speaking out more and not being to afraid of the NRA, etc. I am tired of all these right wing talking points winning the day on the msm. We all must stand up now.

    • 174 theo67
      December 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm

      Don’t forget to call Susan Collins, too, and remind her how hypocritical her comments were after her meeting with Ambassador Rice. She should be ashamed.

    • 175 susanne
      December 14, 2012 at 3:15 pm

      mtmarilyn, i’m late to the party, but have to comment: you’ve just given america the words we need to get the gun laws fixed. people have the right to not be shot! thank you so much!

  30. 176 amk for obama
    December 14, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Was just reading BBC and they have posted a picture of a line of crying kids in that CT school. Now my whole mood is out.

    I am out.

  31. 177 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Hartford Courant reporting there are multiple victims from the Ct. shooting, some children, gunman dead. Horrific scene seeing little kids—-as young as kindergarten—-just clinging to their parent’s necks, as parents carry them away from the scene.

  32. 178 xtine
    December 14, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Not sure if this will work, but here’s a short news video update report on Madiba, seems like he’ll be released from the hospital soon:

    http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video.html?freewheel=90962&sitesection=csmonitorfp_nws_wld_sty&VID=23985118

  33. December 14, 2012 at 11:49 am

    US to send 400 
troops and Patriot 
missiles to the Syrian border

    By Jeremy Herb
    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta signed a deployment order Friday to defend against missiles coming into Turkey.

  34. 180 utaustinliberal
    December 14, 2012 at 11:56 am

    The news reports coming from the elementary school shooting in Newtown, CT are horrific. The sight of children running out of the school and crying is painful. No one should be afraid to go to the mall, to attend a congressional meet and greet, to go to their place of worship, to go to college, to go to the movies, to go to a day spa and most definitely an elementary school. Something has to be done. I don’t know what, but something has to be done. This is almost an everyday occurrence and it is a horror.

  35. 181 utaustinliberal
    December 14, 2012 at 12:04 pm

  36. 184 Japa21
    December 14, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Simplyu because it is just a great line, I want to repeat what mtmarily said upthread”
    *I am tired of regular people not having the right NOT TO BE SHOT*

    Which is more important, the right to get guns easily or the right not to be shot?

    Let’s try to make this a major meme. We, as Americans, believe in the right not to get shot. Twitter folks, do your stuff.

    • 185 Nena20409
      December 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm

      Those who Tweet should Hash-tag that…….Right not be shot at.

      In this year alone, so many multiple shootings.

    • 186 susanne
      December 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm

      good job, japa. i was thinking that when i read mtmarilyn’s comment. this is a major reframe of the the issue, turns it on its head. really an excellent meme to promote now and until this country’s crazy gun laws are reformed.

  37. 188 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    CNN reporting that principal and school psychologist dead. Multiple local media reports of children also victims. When is this horror one time too many? Isn’t time to take on the NRA? This insanity cannot continue. We cannot live in this type of country where one has to be fearful at all times, in all places, including when sending kids off to elementary school. CNN now reporting at least one child confirmed dead. This is nuts—–told kids to cover their eyes and run—–as they had to run past dead bodies in hall lying in pools of blood. 5 year olds! Will be scarred for life from this experience.

  38. 189 Nena20409
    December 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    The solution now would be what? Fortifying the Kindergarten and Elementary schools?

    This is Not the wild wild west. Fear is what makes people carry concealed weapons. The propaganda and the media that are afraid to address the issue. The discussion is always twisted in a fashion that makes civil discussion impossible.

    When a nation annually is losing 10K of her citizens and 30K or more are injured, there is something wrong.

    It took the 1960s many killings that led to some gun control laws. Then when Dems lost badly because of the NRA propaganda…..now this is what we have.

    So the rights of those who don’t want to be be shot, harmed or killed need to be the focus discussion.

    • 190 Japa21
      December 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm

      What is interesting is that in the “Wild, wild West” there were stricter gun control laws in many western towns than there have ever been elsewhere. Many cities did not allow guns within the boundaries and when people came into town they had to relinquish their guns to the authorities until they left.

  39. 192 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    CBS reporting shooter was father of a student—-that shooting started at a mtg. about a 2nd grader. One child shot in face.

  40. December 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Nothing mysterious about how to solve the problem.

    #FORWARD

  41. 194 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    I hope this is not true but ABC reporting more than a dozen killed.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/northern_suburbs&id=8920181

  42. 199 utaustinliberal
    December 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm

  43. 200 Japa21
    December 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    I have a plea for PBO. If now is not the time to speak up about the gun problem in this country and doing something about it, when is the time? Screw the fiscal cliff, screw the debt ceiling, screw the GOP talking about the debts we will leave our children. At this rate, we won’t have any children to leave the debt to.

    • 201 dotster3
      December 14, 2012 at 12:48 pm

      I am in total agreement. I join your plea. There is nothing—–nothing—–of greater importance. This is just crying out for attention, some action of some kind. We cannot allow this to continue unabated.

    • 202 edp4bho
      December 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      I am convinced that this incident will do it for him. These are babies, my God. Nothing more important than our babies. Tears.

  44. 203 hopefruit2
    December 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Terrible…just heart wrenching. I find words.

  45. 205 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    If these latest reports are true, this is an unimaginable horror.

  46. 206 dotster3
    December 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Worst school shooting in U.S. history

  47. 207 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    December 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    I AM SO HEARTBROKEN TODAY OVER THIS SCHOOL SHOOTING…PLEASE ALL PRAY FOR THESE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES!


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