(Dec 2009, Pete Souza)
Chat away, back in a while.
Dear @SenFeinstein @SenatorLeahy Common Sense, minimal #GunControl recommendations bit.ly/XFMmhB Yes We Can— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
Attention @NRA – the following are Minimal, Common Sense #GunControl measures bit.ly/XFMmhB Anything less is totally unacceptable.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
BTW, Chips, that link is to a TOD comment – my little scheme to bring more and more ‘eyeballs’ to your wonderful community (and it saves me having to send 14 separate tweets )
Yes We Can
‘And it saves me..’
I’ve often wondered where you find the time, given all your other commitments!
I compose most of my tweets & comments that have details like the list at that link while preparing dinner, walking to appointments (walk almost exclusively instead of driving) or in the wee hours. Then, largely thanks to Tweetdeck (on my iPhone, especially) and browser tabs which I keep open to many of my work related sites, as well as, TOD, whenever I get a few moments, boom – hit and run
Doesn’t it slow down your computer to have several browsers open? When I have three open my laptop seems slower, or is that in my head?
When at my computer, like I am now, I’m on a really powerful device with a very, very large monitor, so speed is not an issue, fortunately
Also, I only have one browser application running, but have numerous tabs loaded so I just switch between them as needed, such as now when I’m on a boring conference call and can check in on you folk
Okay, one of these days (not today) when my brain is awake (no comments from the 2c section, Amk) you can explain how I can have ‘only one browser application running, but have numerous tabs loaded’. The tabs LOADED part is what is puzzling; however, since you already know from experience that I’m a slow learner we won’t tackle it today; I’ll build up to it.
All good training for moving forward. We’re taking notes.
So great to have Bobfr on our team, and you, too VC xoxxo
Heh, who you calling 2 C section ? I am a proud 3 C section.
Now, about that one browser, numerous tabs thingy.
If you use firefox, you need to install this addon to open bookmarks in new tabs
Goodness, the price of every. thing. has gone up! 3c, eh? I’ll have to show the relevant increase in respect, I guess. Next time.
Hello there, old pard!
I knew it! I knew it! I just knew if I got up and walked away Chips would post a new thread. Come on you all, say ‘thank you, VC’.
Thank you VC – as requested
It’s been a while since we’ve crossed paths, you and I, but I notice you are always hard at work when I drop in. ‘Gracias, senor” (don’t know how to do accents on my laptop )
Thank you friend
mahalo nui loa~
and here’s a thank-you gift for you!
Bing Crosby turned out to be a terrible person, horrific abusive father, according to all his sons.
oops, didn’t know that. and of course, he’s not hawaiian, nor is this a hawaiian song. anyway, mele kalikimaka everybody!
here’s bette midler’s version:
Love, love, love The Divine One! Thanks, susanne…this is a better version (even with the water-skiing confederate flag) than the hateful Bing Crosby.
Good for you Bobfr! You stayed the course. I went and sewed the missing hook on to offspring’s black pants so he’ll be ready to go and hear his memorial composition played at his former high school. One of his music teachers passed away unexpectedly over the summer and as he was out of the country he was unable to attend the funeral. Being who he is, he composed a piece in her memory, and the school orchestra will be playing it as a tribute to her, at some point in their holiday concert.
Please thank your son for using his creativity to honor his teacher – very special. Thank you for sharing.
I will pass on your comment tone-deaf, but proud mamma)
What an honour for both your son and his teacher, VC. How beautiful.
TY (grinning from ear to ear even though I haven’t a musical clue)
that is wonderful, vc. he sounds like a fine young man.
TY, he is; especially if you are into classical music, which I ain’t. I called him over to see the comments – not this one I’m currently writing – and he grinned and said, ‘Oh. I thought you had forgotten the performance.’
You’re a mom!! Our kids often forget that we are the original multi-taskers!!! Tell your son that we TODers are so proud of him!!!
Wonderful, VC. Your son must be very talented. Congratulations.
So ‘they’ say, JG, and in truth I can’t take any credit. I’m the one who as a toddler he used to nudge in church and whisper ‘that’s not what they are singing, mom.’ And I used to respond ‘Leave me alone. That’s what I’m singing.’
Thank you, VC.
Well, Miss Pamela, how ARE you?
To answer that would take some time, VC, but all in all, I am doing well enough. Each day carries it’s own rhythm. I miss the lady, it has been two weeks. Sleeping some big shifts, oh yes I am, and no way am I showing up for Rise and Shine for a while! I feel as if I am starting to catch up. Looking good to take the rest of the month off, then start up in the New Year. For that, I am profoundly grateful, I had no idea I was so utterly exhausted. Been working in the garden, clearing out a bit in the basement, just in small and specific ways. And lurking more than commenting, this is a quiet time for me. Thank you for asking, no magnets yet, but soon I hope! Xo
‘I had no idea I was so utterly exhausted.’
See, you are realizing what I hinted friends had told me – that sometimes you can go non-stop for a long, long time, but when you do stop it’s like everything catches up to you. I am so happy to hear that you are now resting and taking things easy…for you.
Thank you chips.
Congrats Bobfr. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you Nena for all you do!!
thanks, chips! hope your day is going well
Thank you Chips, and everyone here for this wonderful place!
One-fifth of America’s population, that is, about 1% of the world’s population, own as many as one-third of the guns on the planet. #CNN— Captain Clarion (@UnshackleUS) December 18, 2012
Vc, this is one of the reasons we teachers do what we do/did each and everyday, because of beautiful students like your wonderful son.
Give him a hug from this senior teacher. And a huge thank you to you, also comes with it..HZ
Hello there HZ; keeping strong, are you? Will pass on your hug, tomorrow night as we get ready to leave for the concert.
VC, am fine. Good to hear you are “keeping strong” as well. Thanks for passing that hug for me. So special. Enjoy the concert and be so proud. My heart is filled with so much joy for and your beautiful son.HZ
I think I need reassurance on the “deal”, and I realize there’s no final decisions and only rumors, and I don’t want to be called an “emo” —-”emu” would be ok tho—-but —-sigh. Anyone got some calming, good news?
We have yet to hear the President tell us what he has agreed to support. Until then, I don’t hear anything except noise. Hope that helps.
#TrustBarack He’s Earned It
Okay—-thanks Bobfr. Just noise.
We have yet to hear the President tell us what he has agreed to support. Until then, I don’t hear anything except noise. #TrustBarack— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
Nice to see some folk do listen to Mr Carney ….
@Our4thEstate Jay Carney said today at press conference, that it is a no go on #socialsecuritycuts.— (@jsantana2391) December 18, 2012
@Our4thEstate He's not gonna say: "Hands off!" funds for disabled yet mess w/ SS; more chess moves to checkmate the GOP! #TrustBarack— April Thompson (@dishgirl4) December 18, 2012
Thank you Bobfr!
My opinion is to trust PBO and wait until the deal is announced. Everything else is speculation.
Thanks bill. I do trust PBO, but the yucky noise was distracting me.
Dotster3, I ignore the talking heads; my bottom line is I trust PBO to negotiate a deal that benefits the 98%.
I agree, wait for PBO to make a statement on it. His is the only word we can really trust in this mess anyway.
I learn during the 2007 primary to not to believe what was being said unless Sen. Obama said it. Trust PBO he knows what to do.
I trust him completely. That’s why I voted for him twice.
UT posted a few tweets in the last thread about some comments that Nancy Pelosi made today about the President that might encourage and reassure you. She has said in the past that Dems trust the President to negotiate based on their shared Democratic principles – basically, that his heart is in the right place with these negotiations. Today, she said that she trusts him 100% and feels confident in what she’s hearing and that she’s also confident that the majority of Dems in Congress will be happy to vote for the negotiated deal. The only line she’s drawn is on raising the Medicare age, but she seems ok with what she’s hearing about the CPI.
I hope that helps!
Here the video:
Thanks Sonja – I didn’t get to watch this during the day. Much appreciated!
i’m nervous, too, dotster, though i know our president is super smart and completely committed to protecting ‘we the people’. i keep reminding myself that the deal he cut last time, which the pundits called a sell-out, was actually a very strategic and excellent deal for us. so the good, calming news is: pundits don’t know squat–they are to laugh at.
Thanks everyone for coming to my rescue—-y’all are nice and have helped calm my nerves—y’all and the beer I just popped—-it’s almost 5 o’clock somewhere!—- like here in Ill-i-noise.
If we go over the cliff. We get the tax plan we want but… and this is a big but. The debt ceiling is still there (and republicans feeling hurt will be sure to use it), we get no new stimulus, while payroll tax cuts expire and unemployment benefits lapse (two highly stimulative entities on the economy right now). In essence we win the battle and lose the war, BADLY (as economy tanks).
What the president is doing is using his strong hand of threat of letting the cuts all expire to get some things he would not otherwise get. The final deal in unknown, we should wait to see what it is and trust that as Barack so eloquently reminded us after the first debate
We need to Chill, he’s got this.
Ad indeed, he does.
I think you’re right about the president’s objectives, but I’m nervous he can attain them. Republicans seem confident they won’t pay at the polls if they don’t cooperate. The general population is not mobilized enough. I surely hope the president still has some tricks in his bag. It’s tough because people are distrated by Christmas, and the horror of Newtown. What can the president gain, when the population isn’t mobilized in the millions?? This plan B by the republicans is making me very nervous. I hate to say this, but I’ve come to despise republicanss so much it’s not good for my soul. They’re an instrument of destruction.
On the other matter of assaukt weapons, do you sense, watching tv today, that republicans are going to dig in their heels ?? I mean, even after the nightmare of Newton”, they are NOT giving up their damn killing machines!! And we’re supposed to believe they will behave in the fiscal cliff negociations?
How on earth can President Obama succeed in getting any deal with those lunatic, ignorant, ideological, facts-averse fools who control the House of representatives?
Sorry, I’m discouraged tonight.
.@NRA states it is "prepared "to help make sure this (killing) never happens again" I say it is trying to deflect the anger of the people.— Stratos Safioleas (@stratosathens) December 18, 2012
I don’t proclaim to have a crystal ball and clearly I am not all knowing but some of the very folks who are stamping their feet on twitter today about “all” they did to get PBO re-elected are now throwing their hissy fits over these negotiations. Funny thing is that I can’t think of a single time that they tweeted that they went to volunteer or made a single call. I know that everyone doesn’t talk about their participation but generally people do. I just find it interesting that when the campaign was going on I saw nothing about them volunteering and now that they have worked themselves up into a mess over the rumors swirling around today they ALL did SOOOO much to get him elected. My vote, my activism and my time volunteering for the Obama campaign was not done with conditions. After 4 years you would think these people would know him by now.
This is from PBO to all the “doubters”
They will all be the ones to then declare that their hissy fits are what forced PBO to do “x” and “y”. They’re exhausting.
Oh, Donna, you are so right. They are, and always have been, all talk and no action. When you’re actually out there doing the job you don’t have time to wring your hands over rumors. They’re all phonies, pure and simple.
Plus, IMO, the bottom line is that they didn’t do their ALL “for” PBO, they did it for themselves! Usually I ignore them, but it always strikes me as ironic and deluded that they think they did it FOR him. People simplistic enough to believe that would take up too much time to enlighten….. whatever.
Thank you, Donna!
Thank you so much Donna dem for saying so well everything I feel about these armchair quarterbacks who continuously think they are better at calling the plays in these negotiations than the President. I want proof that all these people yelling at the President volunteered to register voters, or volunteered, day in and day out, to get out the vote. Many of us who did that did it because we trust and respect the President to look out for our interests. Speaking for myself, in the past four years, President Obama has done nothing that would make me question his judgement, courage, integrity, and commitment to the betterment of all Americans. By the way, I also loved your song selection to go with your comment.
Reading their comments you can’t help but being astonished by the political naivete of many of them…
“My vote, my activism and my time volunteering for the Obama campaign was not done with conditions. After 4 years you would think these people would know him by now.”
Thank you Donna – it’s because of do-ers like you that PBO is one of only 6 Presidents to be elected twice by > 51%.
That pack of whiners on Twitter, various blogs and ‘progressive’ broadcast media will forever own their contribution to 2010 and it’s aftermath.
Donna Dem, again thank you for your spirit of truth. My complete beliefs will always be of the same.
“My vote, my activism and my time volunteering for the Obama campaign was not done with conditions. After four years you would think these people would know him by now.” Amen, Donna. Thank you for this word.HZ
I *love* this song! (And I totally agree with you. I’ve had to step away from Twitter and Facebook because of the negative comments and tantrums. Why do we have to go through this AGAIN.)
This is not a joke, it’s not religious, it’s not political.
It’s just . . . special. I think you’ll agree.
nice, yardarm. thanks.
Sailor, you have a heart the size of the Pacific Ocean.
Don’t know about the heart stuff but would appreciate you putting that in a tweet.
That was superb, Yardarm. Even the people who can see sometimes miss the beautiful day, but I’m thinking you don’t. #KeepSailing
Lovely, thank you, Yardarm.
Real special! Exactly what’s needed in this world of indifference. Thanks yardarm, as always, for sharing the depth of your love and caring.
That was a lovely message we can all take to heart. Wow – it doesn’t take much these days to get the tears flowing again.
Beautiful, yardarm. Your heart brings forth your lovely actions. Thanks for this lovely reminder.HZ
whoa. thx Yardarm!
That was beautiful @ Yardarm
Yardarm, thank you. You are one in a million!!!!!!
No. I’m just one of the million folks that’s seen too much suffering in life. If I can brighten a dark corner, so be it. It is well with my soul.
* thank you * ;~)
lol @ “if you don’t know me by now”…wz thnkg ’bout that song few days ago. amazes me how we’re all so connected, so threaded throughout this universe. yeah, i go there. just as true star gazer.
donna dem 4 obama – you spoke the truth – thank you from a Neighborhood Team Leader!!!!
meant to say a star gazer… where’s the correct-it button?
You did say star gazer…
my new year’s resolution: i’m not reading or listening to ezra klein ever again. starting right now. i’m through with that weasely dickwad. he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and he just won’t shut up.
Good one, susanne, and, as someone who’s never read or listened to him, I can tell you it’s easy to keep. Keeps you healthier and allows you to sleep more soundly. And believe me, you miss nothing important.
that’s so true, jackie. for some reason he’s been pushed forward as an essential analyzer, a ‘wonk’, and yet he’s just spouting his opinions. i don’t need the irritation, and he has nothing to say that i need to hear. whew! i feel relief already!
He has a super inflated idea of his brilliance….and certain “pundits” keep reinforcing it. He is a callow youth without any experience.
Paul Ryan has been pushed forward as a “wonk”, too. Tells you something about the wonks, doesn’t it?
So many of ‘em get impressed by their own importance, and then go up in smoke when they start to just babble on and on, and lose all credibility. And then the next one pops up, like another weed in a garden. And so on and so on …
I have begun to dislike even seeing Ezra’s mouth start to move, much less hear what he’s sayin’. I, for one, am no longer listening.
yeah, his mouth really bugs me too.
susanne, I think that is a wise decision. By now it is clear E. Klein just want to cause trouble for POTUS even if he has to lie.
Chipsticks my comments wont post for some reason, I dont know if its my settings or did I do something that was against the rules or upset somebody? If so I apologize profusely and would like to know if was out of bounds in any way shape or form, how to correct that. I am very new to this community and immensely appreciate the sounding board you provide here! You even inspired me to create a blog on wordpress that I’m pretty sure no one has ever or will ever read but is a really nice platform. I just had surgery on my patella tendon in my foot an am recovering and have been greatfull to have found your wonderful forum. I hope you re-consider allowing me to be part of TOD, regardless thanks for what you do sincerely Tarak.
Hi Lovely Plains, no worries at all, sorry for the delay, just got back to the blog now. The problem is that you were signing in with ‘Lovely Plains’ with your last comment, it was ‘The Lovely Plains’ before, so the automated thingie here was picking you up as a new visitor. Comment cleared!
whoops**@, what I think is going on is since I created a wordpress account whenever I click on TOD it automatically has a toolbar at the the top of the screen, for instance I can just click like on your posts. But when I go to post a comment it automatically has my twitter account recognized. Any suggestions thanks!
You log out. Then login with wordpress account. You have to use the same login id and password. I let FF save mine so that I don’t have to remember it.
Ok think I got it thanks amk, that was weird today when it logged in by wordpress my CPU give me the middle finger! Ran really slow Twitter works much better.
firearm deaths exceed automobile deaths in 10 states:
Okay, that’s misleading data. In WA, for instance, we have a 95% seat belt compliance rate–that lowers deaths by motor vehicles. Alaska…seriously? They barely have any roads, much less cars. You have to fly everywhere. Just sayin’.
I love that photo of our President, Chips. The little boy in him is wistfully looking out at the snow where the other kids are playing, but the man in him has the weight of the world at his back. I hope he gets some much needed rest in the Great State of Hawaii, with the family, over the holidays.
I love the picture of him, but, now I hope I don’t step on anyone’s toes or preferences here, but I am so glad they got rid of those gold brocade drapes. The re-do of the oval office is now so much warmer and welcoming.
Not my toes or preferences, since I agree!
i know the fiscal crisis and the two wars and all the other pressures kept the obamas from ripping out everything in the white house that had been selected by shrub and his stepford wife, but…. there’s symbolic importance in re-decorating for the new president. and the shrubs had god-awful taste.
SO glad the Obamas got to redecorate so he can work in a more comforting and stylish environment. W’s furnishings were atrocious.
I thought the exact same thing, carolyn. I’m so glad the President has HIS office now, not Bush’s office.
Such a touching commentary on the pic. It’s one of my faves too.
Thanks. (I have a son. He’s not as old, but writing that reminded me of him. My son used to kid me in ’08, “You like Barack better than you like me!”)
LOL this gave me a chuckle. My 7-year-old daughter is into politics, I assume because I am, and every now and then I’ll be watching a video or looking at pictures and she’ll say something like, “Mom I think you like him.” with this little knowing grin on her face. And so I just smile as ask her “What’s not to like?” lol
So funny! Your daughter sounds very smart!
Yep, she floors me at times. =)
I see the Ct. medical examiner is calling in a geneticist to see if they can decipher any disease that led shooter to commit his horrific act. He also said he didn’t know if shooter had Aspergers, a form of autism, as rumored, but that syndrome has never been associated with violent acts. I know parents of these kids were very unhappy that this syndrome was being named and blamed for this atrocity.
I’ve seen a ton of pushback about linking Aspergers with this crime, so it seems people are on the case.
I am the parent of a child with Aspergers and this seems to come up every time there is a shooting spree. My son is well aware that some people associate this condition with these killings and it’s very hurtful to him. These kids are much more likely to be bullied than to do harm to others. My son is older now but he has never been mean to an animal or a person or threatened me or anyone else in any way in his entire life. These kids are very naive and sweet. There is a lovely innocence about them. When they are in one on one situations with people they know and trust, they are very loving and affectionate. In crowds, they become overwhelmed by stimuli and need to find a space to be alone. People outside the family may see them as aloof but this is not true at home. They can’t interpret social signals very well so don’t realize certain things, like when to speak up or when to shut up for that matter. So they come over as being odd. Maybe I’m generalizing but that has been my experience. It may be that some of these shooters have this condition, but they are saying now that one in eighty kids has some form of Autism. It’s ridiculous to think that they are all dangerous. Also, since I’m on a roll, Aspergers is a developmental disability not a mental illness. In the same way that Downs Syndrome is a disability. Doesn’t mean that a person with either condition can’t also develop a mental illness.
Thanks for all your inside information on the subject. I knew that was off —–blaming violent behavior on Aspergers—–when I first heard it mentioned. And I couldn’t believe no one in the media was questioning that assertion. But then again, yes I can.
Obviously these gunmen are mentally ill dotster and maybe some of them do have Aspergers, but the condition by itself does not make a person dangerous. The one thing we do know all these young men have in common is access to guns. When my husband and I heard the first “expert” suggest that “maybe” he had Aspbergers we looked at each other and groaned.
We are heartbroken for the families of those little children and will focus on gun control.
@MikeBloomberg Common Sense #GunControl recommendations bit.ly/XFMmhB How about endorsing them instead of NRA Grade A Scott Brown? TY— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
George Bush and Bushmaster. Or Barack Obama and Obamacare. #President'sLegacy— ForUS50 (@FORUS50) December 18, 2012
Someone on Morning Joe this a.m. said we needed George W. Bush to be involved in the “conversations” about gun control. I nearly gagged. In fact, I know I did.
Why bring an abject failure to discuss this? Didn’t George Bush and his cronies let the original assault weapons ban expire?
In honor of the Sandy Hook angels, people around the country are doing this:
26 Random Acts Of Kindness
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/26-random-acts-of-kindness via @buzzfeed
Love this so much—-everyone needs to do this! Spread kindness in your corner of the world!
@finneyk No surprise that @Walmart known for impoverished workers, would profit from tactical weapons sales bit.ly/WjHsvn #SandyHook— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
Batman knows religion. http://t.co/AE4f87Fk— jamie (@gnuman1979) December 18, 2012
nice summary of the issues, bob.
I would retweet, but I promised myself I’d stay off in order not to unfollow half of my TL.
Have assiduously avoided looking at my TL for the same reason, LL. It’s all sooooooo predictable and just pitiful to see people make fools of themselves, over and over and over again.
omg you guys I just slapped spitzer out there because he was being such an emoprog asshat. jumpin jiminy christmas grumble grumble grumble
You can retweet right here at TOD. Don’t need to go to Twitter. P.S. First day I stayed off Twitter – for the most part- in a long time to avoid the whining from people who should know better.
I’ve just been retweeting from here, LL. I made the mistake of engaging some right wingers the other day, whose profiles listed that they wanted to engage in open debate. It started ok, and quickly devolved into talking points. Now, all their “friends” are tweeting me their inane two cent comments laced with talking points – reviling union workers, etc. I’ve run away for the sake of my sanity. My phone keeps beeping, so I know they’re writing to me, but I can’t go back…
Yeah, where’s Batman when we need him!
NY Giants player, Victor Cruz, visits home of Newtown victim, Giants fan Jack Pinto, 6 –
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/18/news/doc50d0f8957d52d621314250.txt#.UND7bdewkgE.twitter (from @nhregister)
That gave me chills.
Much love to the entire Pinto family. Great people with huge hearts. I'm sorry again for your loss. Looking at life through a different lens— Victor Cruz (@TeamVic) December 18, 2012
You speak for all of us there, Bobfr. Lovely.
@TeamVic You are a fine person. Thank you for all you did for the Pinto family and all those children, today.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 18, 2012
What a lovely gesture…
BREAKING: In new @CBSNews Poll President Obama's job approval rating is 57%, highest since the killing of bin Laden cbsn.ws/UAPSZU— CBS News (@CBSNews) December 18, 2012
.@SpeakerBoehner This belongs to you: CBSNews Poll finds the job approval rating of Congress now stands at 11%. 81% disapprove. #cheesy— meta (@metaquest) December 18, 2012
It’s the Media, they gin up that Obsma is caving. Soon, twitter gas it, and then Rumors start, then Ezra Cryin writes an article based in his own assumptions to support these Whiny bastards.
Then, everybody starts tuning into Currebt tv and MSNBC to see WTF is going on and what all the hub bub is about
It’s cyclical, and a system for ratings!
They made up stories and polls to prove that Romney would win the election – they just keep doing it again and again – problem the GOP and the pundits have is the President Obama is a man of principle – he says what he does and does what he says – very few, if any politicians do that all the time. He is also a man with great family values, a knowledge of scripture that puts many of the religious right to shame and simply an all round good guy. What Ezra & Co do not understand – the President does not rush a decision – he considers all options – and then makes the right decision.
The pundits have nothing except lies as an opposition. The GOP don’t know how to negotiate with the truth – they believe their own lies.
Sadly, if President Obama has any chance to win this round , there has to be a perception that the deal hurts him politically. It’s the onkynway the gop lunatics willl vote yes.
The Johnny-Come-Lately Obama progressive Emo wing has already dumped Obama—WOW…..in just a record 42 days?— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) December 18, 2012
You and Jeff are wonderful supporters of the President Bob – this tweet says it all
@JeffersonObama Brilliant, as usual. 50 Shades of Jan '09 from 'em. Good thing PBO has a gazillion supporters left! #TrustBarackObama— (@JOBoomr) December 19, 2012
Makes me wonder if any of these Emos voted for PBO in the first place. I think they exist only to whine, complain and stir up trouble, with Bernie Sanders, Robert Reich and Ed leading the pack.
Newtown Resident’s Son Is Head Of Firm That Owns Gunmaker
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/newtown-residents-son-is-head-of-firm-that via @ericlach
‘The United States has eliminated more than 20 of al Qaeda’s top 30 leaders based in Afghanistan and Pakistan from the battlefield since Barack Obama became president, a top U.S. government security official said on Tuesday. ‘
But but but the Emo Pigs say they are innocent victims and…
‘ Following the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, the cable network Discovery told Fox News that it has canceled its reality series American Guns. In October, Discovery aired a one-hour special called Ted Nugent’s Gun Country starring NRA board member and Washington Times columnist Ted Nugent, despite his history of inflammatory rhetoric. ‘
Despite his dubious history becoming the “guardian” of a 17 year old girl who was too young to get married, too, right? Very questionable judgment from Discovery for ever airing this cretin’s stuff in the first place on a channel that’s supposed to be educational and informative.
Ted Nugent writes????
“He didn’t just snap. This takes a lot of planning,” …..
. @Our4thEstate Hey #NRA, remember the time we 'politicized' Civil Rights for African-Americans? Brace yourselves.— Lisa Duggan (@motherhoodmag) December 19, 2012
Okay – as much as I hate to say this, but something about Richard Engel’s “kidnapped” story does not sit well with me.
The whole story. I’ve been struggling with this since yesterday, and it intensified when I watched a clip on Rev Al.
Anyway we will see. This is not the biggest thing on my mind right now but it’s a nagging issue.
Could it be that the three of them looked amazingly clean, well rested, well fed, well dressed to have just escaped a week’s kidnapping? Richard had a stylish stubble, but his hair was amazingly the same as usual…the others looked comfortable, and he did all the talking…..????? Just sayin’….
That’s a part of it…but the misgivings were there even before I had a chance to observe.
they were quite cheerful and jokey, yes. but presumably elated.
Jovie believes that Engel works for the government…..CIA I assume. That doesn’t seem farfetched to me. The part of the story which I found somewhat strange, was that they just jumped out of the van and the rebels were there and took care of them while their captors were captured…….that seemed a bit smooth to me.
But, I haven’t followed this, and I’m glad the three of them are now safe. I certainly wouldn’t and couldn’t do that job!!! Living in harm’s way is not something I find appealing. I like sitting here by my fireplace with my little poodle at my feet, and my husband in the sun room watching TV! That is my idea of a VERY good time.
Just another word about my husband’s health, he is improving steadily. This pacemaker/defibrillator is making a marvelous difference in his life, and therefore in our entire family’s life. He is healthier now than he was all last year after his stent surgery.
I continue to be concerned about those on this blog who are dealing with physical problems. Bless all of you.
As far as know, Engel does not work for the government or CIA. I thought he was an employee of NBC – their foreign correspondent?
Please accept this in the spirit of friendly advice – speculating that any person is CIA or any other branch of our intelligence community, especially when said person spends most of their time in hostile places, potentially endangers them. I know you mean no harm, Carolyn, you are a gentle, kind person, so I hope you will not be offended by my comment. Thank you.
Not the least bit offended…..I thoughtlessly carried forward something I read from someone else. I certainly would not want to endanger anyone. As I said above, I would NEVER be able to do what Engel and his team do…….
So good to hear your husband is continuing to do well, carolyn!
Carolyn, good news about your husband. I’m glad he’s feeling better. Good health is often all it takes to be happy, especially after a certain age.
I have my questions too Hopefruit…
I think NBC paid big money—–a ransom—as is most always the case in these kind of situations.
I don’t know about that.
@TheJusticeDept @FBI Isn't what Larry Pratt is proclaiming against the law bit.ly/T5KQFv ? Armed sedition? TY— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 19, 2012
‘ Sen. Inouye’s body will lie in repose in the U.S. Capitol rotunda, a rare honor usually reserved for presidents and historical figures.
His casket will arrive 10 a.m. (5 a.m. Hawaii time) with visitations from 11:30 a.m. through 8 p.m.
The last person to lie in state was President Gerald Ford in 2007.
The casket will be guarded at each of its corners by servicemen from each of the branches of the armed forces for its duration at the Capitol.
A Memorial service will be held at the National Cathedral on Friday at 10:30 a.m. (5:30 a.m. Hawaii time.) ‘
Wish I was well enough to go to DC tomorrow; he was a very good man. Was acquainted with him when I assigned to legislative affairs.
He was a hero. He deserves this far more than many of those Presidents.
New photo and obituary of another Ct. victim. I want people to continue to see these beautiful, innocent faces staring back at them until we get meaningful gun control legislation—and not just “a conversation” about it. I believe the parents of this beautiful little girl were the ones who said they don’t know how to process this horror, that they don’t know how to carry on.
(enlarged photo shows this little girl with her last birthday cake– with 6 candles)
I hear ya dotster. I am so tired of the expression “have a conversation about it”. NO. DONE talking. We demand ACTION – long, long overdue. Having endless useless “conversations” resulted in these beautiful kids now being buried by their parents.
I agree with you, dotster. I heard Joe Manchin tonight being interviewed. He was still proudly claiming to be a lifetime member of the NRA. He was still raving on about the sanctity of their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. When pressed about what exactly he plans to do – he continued to repeat a line about bringing everyone to the table, including the NRA, to hear all sides of the story and discuss the issues openly. When asked what he would vote for, he hedged and hawed, not wanting to propose anything tangible or even discuss limits. When asked directly whether he would support a retroactive bill to ban ownership of assault weapons, he was quick to proclaim that nobody was talking about confiscating anything. So, he’s all talk. If I see action from him – then I’ll eat my words, but he seems to be a toothless tiger in this.
I don’t trust anything about him. I don’t like anything about him.
Jet Blue flies extended families notes cross country to be buried with 6 yr. old Noah Pozner.
We need a place we come to relax and detox from FB and Twitter madness. Oh wait, we have it! Here!
I don’t think it’s a matter of whether the emoprogs have their panties in a bunch or not, for them it’s a chronic and terminal condition. It’s just a matter of the degree of binding tension at any moment. They fantasize that the President will kick, scream, pout, holler, threaten, expectorate and convulse until THEY get everything THEY WANT. This President is the most ambitious and accomplished in our lifetimes, and we do have our annoying constitutional separation of powers THING. Plus, Barack Obama moves us FORWARD without engaging in ANY of those pathetic and ineffectual antics. I am so weary of these people that are supposed to be on our side.
Well said magapie. Right on point.
I decided not to watch Ed tonight because I did not want to hear his crap tonight. Bernie Sanders suppose to be up there and I just said I was not in the mood for them.
The plight of the EMOs is a chronic state of immaturity where they don’t want the responsibility of actual governance and the real world decisions that involves. They prefer to take comfort in the “purity” of their ideals where things are the way they want them to be. They find a superiority to the rest of the “commoners” who don’t understand their elevated vision and moral purity. For that reason perpetual opposition is where they consign themselves to be and angry that few understand or make common cause or honor them for their holy purity.
I just unfollowed and blocked about 10 people on Twitter. They are ridiculous.
Such special air to breathe.
lol panties “degree of binding tension”.
Bravo, Magapie! I am with you 100% on everything you wrote.
Thanks nathkatun7!!! (How is nathkatun6 doing?….just kidding!) The “Grand Bargain” that our nation needs so our markets don’t crash, we can FUCKING MOVE ON etc., etc.? NO ONE in the political class is going to be happy with it. That’s our democracy!!!
nk#6 is retired! I totally agree with you. No one is ever completely happy with any compromise. Unfortunately, in a divided government like ours it’s rare that you get everything you want. You would think that the supposedly smart progressives would at least recognize that reality.
So the emopigs (thanks jovie for that FF) are acting up again ? They never learn, do they ?
Yup! They think they know it all. I don’t think they realize how loony they are? They seem
To be competing with the loony right? At this point, it’s a wash.
Well said. “it’s a chronic and terminal condition”
Well said. I would state further that since we all KNOW this is a chronic condition with them, why do we keep fantasizing that if we are just pragmatic enough, they’ll somehow stop being this way? Why do WE keep reacting to their tantrums? When do we learn to just ignore them. They aren’t statistically important in the grand scheme of things. Let them rant. They aren’t going to take a time out just because we want them to.
“When do we learn to just ignore them.”
I get what you saying, Tien Le. These characters are probably not worthy of the time and energy we spend responding/reacting to them. I think the main reason we can’t ignore them completely is the fact that they dominate mainstream media claiming to speak for us. So, I understand and appreciate people who push back against them on tweeter and other social media. What I don’t understand are some people here who seem to buy into their exaggerations, panics and tantrums and then start doubting the President.
Victor Cruz visits the family of six-year-old Jack Pinto, who was laid to rest wearing Victor's jersey wp.me/p14QSB-6Gme— (@ProFootballTalk) December 19, 2012
Hey guys. Remember last year when that young military guy asked Miche out at that Christmas toys for tots thing she does every year? Remember she told him he’d have to ask PBO’s permission and PBO said yes? When’s the ball that they are supposed to attend? Can’t wait to see what she wears.
Grrrrrrrrr. It appears that the ball is on the 10th of November every year. she couldn’t go.
hey did anyone just get a survey from jeremy byrd? it’s about Dasboard
Yes, I did.
I did too, filled it out right away… Better to get it done..it is long though, but good follow up on campaign processing.
President Obama’s approval rating has taken a major upswing which is great news.
SJ City College locked down after reports of gunman on campus
Oh no, not again? Crossing fingers here!
UPDATE: We’ll have an update on the lockdown at San Jose City College from Chancellor Rita Cepeda in just a few minutes. #SJCC #breaking— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
San Jose City College Chancellor Rita Cepeda: 9,000+ students alerted by text message, classes cancelled for the rest of the night— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
San Jose City College Chancellor: Campus cleared except for 2 science and technology buildings. Police continuing search. #SJCC #breaking— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
San Jose City College President Barbara Kavalier says there’s no evidence of shots fired, police have yet to find possible gunman. #breaking— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
It’s becoming a war zone. This is out of control.
Father of son who survived the Ct. massacre speaks out for gun control
Good, I’m glad. A friend was on facebook last night with some quote from a father of a Columbine (?) victim about how it’s all about prayer in school and our Godless society.
#BREAKING: Benghazi report concludes management failures at State Dept. led to inadequate security leaving diplomatic mission vulnerable. AP— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
What Benghazi report?
I read today, Tien Le, that the report won’t be released to the public until some time next week. members of Congress have already received the report.
Good Evening Everyone!
Hope you all doing well………I am getting kinda tired of the P/L regarding..What PBO should or not do…The man hasn’t said a word yet…and they all up in arm…about He better not cave, He better not this and that….enough!
Stay away from twitter for a few days.
Hi Kasai, As I said, I’ve unfollowed and blocked several people. They are beyond pathetic – including the Professional Left.
Hi Sabreen60..I am about to do just that! You can’t reason with the unreasonable! Thanks!
77 senators managed to avoid taking a public stand on assault weapons post-Newtown. We're tracking them. All of 'em. mojo.ly/V2vcZf— (@Tomthunkit) December 19, 2012
the above post from Tomthunkit is good shows the supporters, maybes and NOs. time to email, call and tweet the heck out of them. Chips thanks for all info you and everyone here offer. thank god i’m 73 live alone and have a computer..
You "Caved"on PBO in 2010 when U stayed home>Now that PBO has 2 deal Teabaggers in Congress. U have the audacity 2 say He better Not Cave!— Kasai (@Kahsai) December 19, 2012
Thank you BOB!!! I am learning from the Master Tweeter:-)
I get The Other 98% on my facebook feed. They are at it again too. Acting like it’s a done deal and PBO sold out. I posted pretty severe response.
Bravo, Kasai! Keep exposing them.
Clinton is not running in 2016…1) I think she’s tired but 2) Bengahzi I had a feeling that this report would be negative for the State Department and I feel bad. Of course the buck stops at the president’s desk but if these pundits try to shield Hillary and lay all of the blame at his feet I will be so upset.
Of course she’s not, MB, she told us that in Jan 2012 and I have had no reason to not believe her.
Leadership is all about accountability and both she and the President have already acknowledged that they recognize their responsibility. That’s why they are such honorable leaders.
I always believed her when she said she wasn’t running but the pundits wouldn’t leave it alone. You have to wonder now if those pundits will continue to try to push that theory…they should let it be
Agree with you – they should ‘let it be’ but they won’t so the best we can do is give them zero bandwidth.
As to the report, Congress gets nailed ….
ARB report on Benghazi rightly calls out Congress for underfunding the State Department for years.— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) December 19, 2012
What PBO has already accomplished during the past 3 weeks ….
TY Pres @BarackObama for expanding everyone's awareness that Boehner & Co are indeed treacherous hostage takers who support ONLY the rich.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 19, 2012
…. is not insignificant, but of course, the MSN/bloger/twitter emoticons have totally missed it.
Hm so the committee on the Benghazi thing has finished their report and according to Rachel Maddow, they are basically putting the chunk of the blame on the State Department “coming down hard” in her words and SoS Clinton has accepted all the recommendations the committee recommended.
Get ready for the last bit of the PUMA brigade to starts calls of Obama throwing Hilary “under the bus”…
I am not sure PUMAS and Emo pigs are not the same?
I have seen PUMA for four years, and I don’t have a clue what it stands for except it’s about Hillary.
That was the initial attitude among many Hillary supporters when PBO won the Dem nomination – and most of them came around but a few of them have continued to hold a grudge against PBO.
Thanks! I have been curious about this for a long time.
So wasn’t there reduced funds from congress for mission security? and when does the inquiry start as to why it is no longer safe in the USA for children to go to school? One incident that (sadly) took 4 people – and congress is trying to ignore an incident that took 26 lives – there prioirities certainly are not in line with the majority of people they represent.
lamh36, It’s to bad we can’t throw them under the bus and I will happily drive.
McCain calls the Sandy emergency-spending bill a train ‘full of pork’
By Ramsey Cox
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said there are several unnecessary measures in the emergency-spending bill for Hurricane Sandy relief that the Senate is considering.
The Senate started consideration this week of H.R. 1, a bill to provide $60 billion to Hurricane Sandy recovery efforts, but some conservatives have said the bill has unnecessary spending measures, during a time when lawmakers are trying to make spending cuts.
“We cannot look at this in a vacuum,” McCain said on the floor Tuesday. “Not at a time when we’re $17 trillion in debt.
“It’s like a train leaving the station — it’s full of pork and it’s leaving the station and everyone wants to get aboard.”
I wish he would take a train back to Arizona, 1 way.
This man seems to have joined the Sarah Palin school of attack anything that supports his country – he would rather the recovery from Sandy was the same as the recovery from Katrina – let the people suffer – he is a horrible excuse of a person – always has been.
Wonder how Christie will feel about that.
Heh .@GovChristie, .@SenJohnMcCain sez that #Sandy relief aid is "full of pork". This is your #gop. What say you?— (@amk4obama) December 19, 2012
Great tweet! I have dutifully retweeted
Those planning on upgrading to / buying new ‘puter with windows 8, don’t. Plenty of issues being reported. Wait for at least 6 months.
No worries about that amk….
So now you tell me… already got ‘em gift wrapped and waiting patiently under the tree. Oh well, my job is done. My mantra on gift giving is that the responsibility for gifts end for the giver, once the bow has been removed by the givee. Save said gift is one of a kind, rare, and unlikely to be found on all of earth. In that case, the giver can and should relieve the givee of any possible anguish and anxiety by taking back the gift, substitute its monetary value, and keep it for themselves as they probably wanted to do in the first place.
Just kidding, I am a most generous giver, very seldom, if ever, darn near never, never, covet the gift I choose for others.
LOL. You want that damned gift back, dontcha?
Love your thinking cookemom, actually very logical!
I already have one and thank God that I have my iPad and older PC. I need to take a class to learn how to use the one with windows 8.
My son installed Windows 7 for me….it is great. He said Windows 8 is not ready for the public yet…..glad to have him to take care of me. Windows 7 really works easily.
I am using windows 7 on my older PC. Windows 8 is to complicated.
We're still at San Jose City College as police continue to search the campus after a report of a gunman. LIVE VIDEO: bit.ly/xrWLOv— ABC7 News (@abc7newsBayArea) December 19, 2012
Shows level of concern on DRC. At busy time for Obama, WH says he called Kagame and sought end to support for armed groups #Rwanda— Shaun Tandon (@shauntandon) December 19, 2012
our president has a gazillion critical issues on his mind every minute of every day. we have no idea how much he’s carrying. i just hope he and his family can have their christmas vacation soon.
Its ridiculous the amount of burden he carries on his shoulders, I saw a report today that says it will be over a year inbetween his next vacaction. Guess all you need is a ranch like Reagan or Bush and the media doesnt care how long you are gone.
i remember feeling relieved when shrub was at his ranch–seemed like he could do less damage there
My sister was a Bush fanatic, if you can imagine! We went to Texas for her to do some family research, and Waco was one of our stops. Well, Crawford and Bush’s “ranch” are close to Waco. She pled with me to take her there. (It was my car and I was driving) As those of you with sisters know, we do things for them that we don’t want to, just to please them. Well, Crawford is the dryest, ugliest place imaginable, and the ranch, well, we saw the gate and fence, but I believe that the press didn’t believe going there could possibly count as a vacation, it was so dead and dry. I remember the press really griping about going there, especially in the summer…HOT!!!!! and there’s nothing near; Waco has the Dr. Pepper factory and Baylor…..
The main thing in town was a diner/gift shop that had been built after GWB bought the ranch. In it was a cardboard figure of the dolt, and she actually had me take her picture standing next to it with a big smile. She also spent a good chunk of change buying ugly souvenirs. This was in 2002. She was absolutely bonkers for him.
For some reason, I’m still awake at this hour……getting rested after school ended, I guess.
Thanks for all the info today. My husband frequently asks me “Where did you learn that?” I always tell him, TOD!!! I tell him those people bring all the news I need….they go places I don’t even know about, and that’s why I’m so informed!
Remember when #Obamacare was a 'cave' ….— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 19, 2012
Yes I remember and to appease some states screaming for ‘state’s rights’ saying states could run it better than the feds, a provision was put into the bill allowing for states to set up their own exchanges. Now those same states are opting out. Breach of Contract in most case scenerios.
But I am happy to see them saying let the gov do it. That’s what we wanted in the first place hahaha Thank you vile GOPBastards for bringing us closer to single payer, gov run health ObamaCares. LMAO on that one. They just like to make noise, I swear.
Evening all. Want to know what an emo prog is you? It’s an Emo Progressive (faux to say the least) This video explains the mind set well of Emos well
Dear @AmbassadorRice, based on the Benghazi report we will all be waiting for McCain et al to apologize to you. Thank you for your service.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 19, 2012
Do anyone think that bitter old senile fool is going to apologize to Amb. Rice? John McCain is a disgrace.
Bobfr waiting for McCain to apologize…
Waiting for McCain to apologize to Ambassador Rice… http://t.co/7tde8IHx— Mary Foster (@marylynne1) December 19, 2012
Senate votes to allow rotunda use for Inouye service
By Ramsey Cox
The Senate passed a resolution Tuesday night allowing the Capitol rotunda to be used for the late-Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii).
That is not done for everybody!
I think they said the last person was Gerald Ford
Before you here morons on tv *explain* the ARB report here are the significant quotes, conclusions: it calls out Congress for underfunding the State Department for years, “The Board concluded that there was no protest prior to the attacks” “at no time were there ever any specific, credible threats against the mission in Benghazi” related to the 9/11 anniversary” “Ambassador Stevens made the decision to travel to Benghazi independently of Washington, per standard practice” “The Board members believe every possible effort was made to rescue and recover Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.” “The interagency response was timely and appropriate…simply was not enough time for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference.” Report says the Libyan guards fled immediately without warning of an attack — it was a security officer who first sounded the alarm. Chris Stevens was on his cell phone requesting assistance AFTER the attack started. “The departure of the Annex team was not delayed by orders from superiors” cc: Fox News, Two drones were mobilized but both were unarmed. “The Board found no evidence of any undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington or military combatant commanders.” “Embassy Tripoli leadership…did not single out a special need for increased security for Benghazi.” http://t.co/XsXGOjBT Also SOS Clinton has already agreed to all 29 recommendations, hopefully you can ignore anything you hear from pundits now!
Heh .@SenJohnMcCain – Did ya read the ARB report on Benghazi ? Apologize to Ms Rice, you lying pos. state.gov/documents/orga…— (@amk4obama) December 19, 2012
The least they could do for this honorable man.
Excellent and THANK YOU.
Hi everyone, hope you’re all well. Before I go to sleep I just wanted to share the coolest thing that just happened – totally from a nerd’s point of view.
So, I went on YouTube to look at a video entitled, “Chaos, Fractals and Unpredictability – Dr. Tony Weathers”, and I happened to glance at the 20 suggested math / science videos on the right side of page, and one in particular stuck out: “Barack Obama’s Coolest Presidential Moments”.
In the middle of math videos. You have no idea how absolutely trippy this made me feel. Twenty-six minutes and forty-two seconds of bliss.
I don’t know if this video was posted here before, because I’m not always on – but I’m posting it anyway for sheer enjoyment.
By the way, I never did look at Dr. Weathers’ vid. That will be for another time.
Our take on Boehner's latest scheme: bit.ly/12y7lHh #TheAction— The Action (@JointheAction) December 18, 2012
on the naughty list, indeed. boner is a three-decker toadstool and sauerkraut sandwich with arsenic sauce.
Love the “Action” just called and left message. space available if you want to call and thell
him to put up or shut up
interesting read about sen inouye, and racism, from seymour hersh:
Dog watches Bo on TV!
@DavidShuster @current – In the age of hacking into high security sites, 'smart guns'? Really? How stupid is the press?— (@amk4obama) December 19, 2012
It is always worth looking at again and again. who can ever get enough of him? Not Me!
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