192 Responses to “The only ad that mattered tonight….”


  1. 1 Proud Former White House Intern
    February 3, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Agreed

  2. 5 theo67
    February 3, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Congrats to the Ravens! Well fought.

  3. 6 hopefruit2
    February 3, 2013 at 10:48 pm
  4. 10 hopefruit2
    February 3, 2013 at 10:50 pm
  5. February 3, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Pray that the message reaches across the barriers that have kept guns from being controlled.

  6. 14 anniebella
    February 3, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Good night every body. Congratulation to the Ravens.

  7. 16 hopefruit2
    February 3, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    LOL – everything that happens must have some relation to PBO. :)

  8. 18 cookemom
    February 3, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Well alrighty then. It’s a wrap. Til this time next year XLVIII.

    Note: Fox will be the broadcasting network for next year’s super bowl game. PBO has always granted the pre-game interview to the broadcasting network. They’ll be using the entire upcoming year preparing their best gotcha questions.

  9. 22 utaustinliberal
    February 3, 2013 at 10:56 pm
    • 23 HZ
      February 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      Goodnight TOD Family. Congratulations to all of the Ravens family members and fans. Meta and Nancy Smash we will still be happy.HZ

      • 24 nathkatun7
        February 4, 2013 at 12:15 am

        You absolutely right, HZ! I know I’ve been a very passionate supporter of 49ers. But I still Congratulate the Baltimore Ravens. They represent one of the most dependable Blue States with a brilliant Governor.

        • 25 theo67
          February 4, 2013 at 12:21 am

          Totally agree – it stings a little less because it’s Gov O’Malley’s team.

          • 26 nathkatun7
            February 4, 2013 at 12:35 am

            Yes, Indeed, Theo! Despite my bravado, I really didn’t mind so much losing to the Baltimore Ravens. I like and highly respect Gov. O’Malley. If VP Joe Biden decides not to run for President in 2016, and Gov. O’Malley decides to run, he will be my number one choice.

            • 27 theo67
              February 4, 2013 at 12:48 am

              I’m trying not to think of 2016, but I would support Gov O’Malley if VP Biden decided not to run, as well. Of course, it’ll all depend on who all the players are,once everyone is on the field.

  10. 28 utaustinliberal
    February 3, 2013 at 10:57 pm
  11. February 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm
  12. 32 dotster3
    February 3, 2013 at 11:04 pm
  13. 41 utaustinliberal
    February 3, 2013 at 11:05 pm
  14. 44 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    February 3, 2013 at 11:09 pm
  15. 45 Gazelle
    February 3, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    YIKES! My Gov Martin is going to go into freezing waters shirtless again! Ravens, give the man a jersey! :)

  16. 46 carolmaewy
    February 3, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    I kind of liked the Tide commercial. :roll:

  17. 49 sherijr
    February 3, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Well that was really a great game… my neighbors are outside yelling (me too for a minute :) lots of fireworks and horns honking.. Baltimore is happy :)

  18. 55 amk for obama
    February 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm
  19. 57 utaustinliberal
    February 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Nice picture. He’s proud.

  20. February 3, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Ok, guests are gone.

    Stewie the wonderpup behaved reasonably well.

    Total damage: 6 margaritas, 1 glass of rose grenache, one beer; flautas, mini tacos, and honey bbq chicken wings. But everyone raved about my Trader Joe’s coffee.

  21. 59 desertflower
    February 3, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Night all….was a good day….see you all for Rise and Shine!

  22. February 3, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    Missed the Mayors’ ad because, well, I was a busy host. Funny that the NRA didn’t try to get an ad on.

    • 62 carolmaewy
      February 4, 2013 at 1:14 am

      I missed it because they didn’t show on my TV. They didn’t even show the presentation of Lombardi Trophy. Jerky boob tube. Thanks to Chips for posting it. I watched it on YouTube before time anyway. Bad Budweier said they were going to name the fowl after the commercial was shown on TV and asked for suggestions on YouTube. Thought they were going to show it after commercial. Guess I have to back to YouTube. Grr. Sorry the game didn’t go your way. But you got the nice weather. ;)

  23. 63 dotster3
    February 3, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    I heard on the news that the demented killer hostage taker of the little 5 yr. old is demanding that he speak to a reporter down in his bunker. What would you do with that demand? I can’t imagine the agony of the parents. It’s been 6 days that their kid is down there underground with a crazy man.

    • 64 theo67
      February 3, 2013 at 11:46 pm

      That child is forever damaged. Can’t they send in some kind of sleeping gas that will put them both to sleep and just rescue that child? There must be something. If he wants to speak to a reporter, that sounds like he wants to make a final statement. Doesn’t sound good.

      • 65 Gazelle
        February 3, 2013 at 11:56 pm

        That’s not good at all. 6 days! Come on. I can’t begin to imagine that little boy’s troubles, let alone the parents. Please let him survive intact. And the parents.

      • 66 yardarm756
        February 3, 2013 at 11:59 pm

        That wouldn’t be too cool if the door to the place was locked from inside. Would it?

        • 67 theo67
          February 4, 2013 at 12:03 am

          Well, then they could blow down the door while the hostage taker was unconscious. There has to be something…

        • 71 Gazelle
          February 4, 2013 at 12:20 am

          Yardarm, I thought they were in some sort of a bunker that the guy had built and there’s a pipe of some kind into the bunker. Theo might have a point about sleeping gas, maybe thru the pipe? The only hesitancy would be if the guy has wired the place. There’s got to be something that’s giving them pause from going in. Bless that child. Bless his parents.

    • 73 amk for obama
      February 3, 2013 at 11:52 pm

      Amazing the police still haven’t figured out a way to get that kid out.

  24. February 3, 2013 at 11:49 pm
  25. February 3, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    I may not watch this movie for the simple fact Iron Man saves the god awful WH press core!

    • 79 theo67
      February 4, 2013 at 12:05 am

      Oh, that’s who it is falling through the air. I missed the very first part, and just saw that he was rescuing people falling from a plane. I didn’t realize they were jackals. Maybe they’ll be transformed by the experience… ;)

  26. 81 PoliticalJunkessa
    February 4, 2013 at 12:04 am

    Welp, my Kaepernick and the Niners came close, but not close enough. I was all set to watch the post-game festivities but I just can’t deal with Ray Lewis’ preaching. I like the Ravens, but he is just tooooo much.

    In the year 2013 it’s incredible to believe that we would experience a 30 minute power outage at the most prominent sporting event of the year. I blame Bobby Jindal.

    What can I say that hasn’t been said about B-E-Y-O-N-C-E! She owned that stage! There’s just so much force in her performances — they should have hooked her up to a generator and powered the Dome that way. It was amazing!

  27. February 4, 2013 at 12:27 am

    For the history geeks out there: in a few hours we should know if a skeleton found in Leicester Cathedral’s parking lot is that of the infamous King Richard III.

    • 88 veryslowwriter
      February 4, 2013 at 12:54 am

      Making cassoulet this week. Have the sausage, duck confit, beans. Multistep, many ingredients but so effing delicious. Worth the work. I think,

      • 89 theo67
        February 4, 2013 at 2:18 am

        I’ve seen cassoulet being made on a cooking show. Very laborious comfort food – isn’t it always, though… Good luck, and good eating! Sounds delicious!

  28. 90 99ts
    February 4, 2013 at 12:56 am

    LL did you see this – posted for you on the last thread – your own super bowl ad

  29. February 4, 2013 at 1:18 am

    Reality …

    Yes We Can …… End This INSANITY

    • February 4, 2013 at 1:55 am

      Time for some rest dear friends.

      I hope, though am in no way expecting, that our fantastic First Lady will read that link http://t.co/SNN3XTjg and see some value in it and share it with our President. We have such sensible, concrete and centuries-long precedents for how to hold individuals and collectives of individuals, be they non-profit or for-profit institutions, responsible and liable for their actions and their products.

      Yes We Can

  30. 94 carolmaewy
    February 4, 2013 at 1:29 am

    What, no one is talking about the Puppy Bowl? They didn’t have a problem with power.

  31. 95 Claire
    February 4, 2013 at 1:29 am

    STILL CELEBRATING in Baltimore County. :) LOVE my RAVENS!!!

    The Ravens are going to the White House! The Ravens LOVE President Obama!!

  32. February 4, 2013 at 1:52 am
  33. 98 amk for obama
    February 4, 2013 at 2:19 am
  34. 99 amk for obama
    February 4, 2013 at 2:24 am
  35. 100 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 6:21 am

    I’ve read a lot, and i have to say that PBO fucked up on showing his gun power. Biggest mistake he will have ever made, while trying to take on gun control. It’s just simply a bad mistake in my opinion.

    • 101 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 6:46 am

      Oh please, pipe down the hyperbolic hair on fire nonsense. You’re acting like this ruined his presidency and it did not. Is he holding an AR-15? NO. Is he holding a semi-automatic weapon? NO. Is he blowing someone’s head off? NO. Is he killing animals? NO. Is he holding a Bushmaster and spraying bullets into defenseless people? NO. He’s skeet shooting on his birthday. Firing at clay targets in an open range where no one is around who can get wounded. The man can do whatever he damn well pleases. He’s the President of the United States. HIM. Not you. HIM.

      It’s the same thing he did with the birthers. Released the birth certificate while delivering justice to Osama Bin Laden and at the end of the day, who came out tops? He and reasonable Americans. It’s the same thing he’s doing here. Mocking the white house press corps (gossips), the NRA, and the rightwing nut jobs while at the same time getting reasonable gun owners on his side in the gun safety debate because they understand he doesn’t want to take their guns away; he, just like them want reasonable background checks and regulations of assault weapons and magazines/clips. Who’s coming out tops in the gun safety debate? He and reasonable Americans. He and VP Biden are going around the country and gathering up more support, Wayne LaPierre and his cohorts look and sound even more crazy to millions of Americans including NRA members especially during their congressional hearing, PR stunts, disgusting ad mocking Pres. Obama’s children, and LaPierre’s epic fail performance on Chris Wallace’s Fox News Sunday show.

      On the gun safety debate, Pres. Obama is winning the argument and no harmless picture of a man having a great time on his birthday will ruin that. That’s just ridiculous thinking.

  36. 102 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 6:25 am

    Why the fuck would he give into these bastards? And why the hell would his cabinet scoop so low.

  37. 104 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 6:39 am

    I’m sorry, but this picture during all of the loss of life just doesn’t cut it for me. I thought this administration was better than that., then to show a picture of the charge in chief, shooting his gun. Sad, very Sad!

    • 105 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 6:48 am

      It’s for bloody skeet shooting. It’s not a rocket launcher so your outrage is ridiculous and hyperbolic beyond measure.

      • 106 Joy
        February 4, 2013 at 7:00 am

        Apparently you don’t understand how this looks when it is coming down to gun control and what this President is trying to set forth. His members should have never shown this picture. Period! This looks very bad on part of the president. It doesn’t matter if he was skeet shooting. The point is, this president is suppose to be portraying that many young lives are being lost right now, not showing a picture of his sceet shooting. It’s just bad in my opinion.

        • 107 utaustinliberal
          February 4, 2013 at 7:45 am

          Blah….blah….blah….blah…. your so called outrage is ridiculous and hyperbolic beyond measure. It’s skeet shooting. He’s the President of the United States enjoying himself on his birthday. He doesn’t have to conform to your narrow minded ideas of what is proper and not proper.

          • 108 anniebella
            February 4, 2013 at 8:59 am

            ut, Something ain’t smelling right here. I’m not understanding all this so call outrage about a picture of President Obama skeet shooting. My opinion, it’s no big deal.

          • 109 taiping1
            February 4, 2013 at 9:14 am

            Sometimes trolls slip through. Such over-the-top outrage is laughable and not worthy of any further response.

      • February 4, 2013 at 7:35 am

        Hey UT :) …not sure who this “Joy” is, sounds like someone from the Faux Noise couch bloviating false concerns.

  38. 111 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 6:50 am

    This is the worst picture taken of PBO and released because of gun control and what is happening right now. Good-bye to gun control.

  39. 112 utaustinliberal
    February 4, 2013 at 6:53 am

    Richard the III has been found!!!!! — well, his bones anyway.

  40. February 4, 2013 at 6:54 am

    Hey UT, I don’t know how Joy got past Chips, but sounds like a paid troll. Most of us who had issues with the photo didn’t attack PBO and/or swear at him.

    • 115 Joy
      February 4, 2013 at 7:06 am

      Well, you need to understand that people have a voice or opinion Susan. I’m not a troll. Yes, sometimes I like to swear, perhaps you can call me passionate

      • 116 kathryn kivett
        February 4, 2013 at 7:25 am

        Will you be specific as to which “members” and “Cabinet” of the “Charge in Chief” you might be referring to?

        • 117 Joy
          February 4, 2013 at 7:30 am

          I’m referring to the people in charge in PBO cabinet.

          • 118 kathryn kivett
            February 4, 2013 at 7:40 am

            His new cabinet or his old cabinet?

            • 119 utaustinliberal
              February 4, 2013 at 7:56 am

              Kathryn, Joy makes no sense. Pres. Obama’s old and new cabinet have no say in the release of any pictures. It’s down to Pete Souza and Jay Carney as to what pictures can be released and clearly, the skeet shooting picture release was approved by Pres. Obama.

              He’s skeet shooting not holding a rocket launcher so Joy’s hyperbolic outrage about how the picture is the biggest mistake Pres. Obama’s ever made is ridiculous and insulting.

              • 120 Joy
                February 4, 2013 at 8:07 am

                Actually, no its not insulting UT, its real, and in my opinion he shouldn’t have allowed it to be released in what is going on right now. I feel it was very distasteful, and I feel many americans feel the same way. I respect him and I am sure he is feeling today that perhaps it was very distasteful. It serves nobody any good.

                • 121 utaustinliberal
                  February 4, 2013 at 8:19 am

                  Yeah, because you know what Pres. Obama is feeling. You’re his therapist right? You were hired to be the therapist to the President of the United States right? Or you’re a psychic right? That must be it. Wait…..noooo….you mean you’re not Pres. Obama’s therapist. Oh….you’re just spewing hyperbolic nonsense because you think it makes you sound smart. Yeah…..that must be it. :roll:

                  You’re not the President of the United States and you don’t get to comment on his mental or emotional state. Your rants are ridiculous, hyperbolic, and full of crap. You clearly don’t understand what skeet shooting is. There is something called G-O-O-G-L-E that can help clear your shocking lack of knowledge. You clearly haven’t been listening to Pres. Obama when he says he’s not coming after skeet shooters and shotgun owners. He wants regulation of assault weapons, background checks, regulation of magazines/clips and help for the mentally ill.

                  You must have been off in la-la-land when Pres. Obama was speaking about gun safety measures. He’s the President of the United States. HIM. Not you. HIM. Frankly, he doesn’t give a damn about your ridiculous rants that aren’t based in fact.

                  You clearly don’t understand how politics and policy work and instead of owning up to that, you project your rants and lack of knowledge about the gun debate on Pres. Obama. It’s insulting and pure nonsense.

                  • 122 miss pat
                    February 4, 2013 at 12:27 pm

                    Please, pretty please, ignore this lady. She wants to cause strife and we will not have that here. People shoot guns and will continue to shoot guns for pleasure. The problem is when guns are used to kill people. Big guns that can tear off a child’s face. Shooting guns at clay objects, soda or beer cans is not hurying people. The President wants to show the assholes that he is not taking away their guns. He just wants accountability and responsibility. Ignore this woman, please. This is a joyful place.

              • 123 kathryn kivett
                February 4, 2013 at 8:20 am

                I know ; ) ……actually if the members of the charge in chief release pictures of PBO participating in sports, I much prefer body surfing!

      • February 4, 2013 at 7:39 am

        that’s the problem too many talking, too many opinions not enough common sense. Thankfully PBO and his cabinet know what they’re doing. Oh, and I wouldn’t call you passionate, more likely, obnoxious and rude

        • 125 Joy
          February 4, 2013 at 8:26 am

          Thanks, I don’t mind being called obnoxious for voicing what I feel is going on. Maybe I’m rude as well, but I don’t mind to hear that from you. All the best to you Berny.

  41. February 4, 2013 at 7:03 am
  42. February 4, 2013 at 7:09 am
    • 128 prettyfoot58
      February 4, 2013 at 7:17 am

      To all the naysayers about PBO releasing the skeet photo…as i have said on previous thread and as UT has elaborated so well on this thread/that photo was to not let the narrative about gun saftey mushroom into whether the PBO skeet shooted…he wanted the discussion to be on his proposals….and to also appeal to the “reasonable ” gun owners

      and indeed he is flying to Minneapolis to continue to promote his proposals….

      as Bob would say…

      #Trust in Barack…he has earned it…

  43. 129 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 7:18 am

    I’ve read some responses, have to say that I’m a big supporter of PBO, but I can’t agree with this picture of him being released during a huge issue of gun violence. I’ll say again, good-bye to gun violence. It won’t happen. It just saddens me. This picture is disturbing to me during a very serious debate on gun control.

    • 130 prettyfoot58
      February 4, 2013 at 7:31 am

      well we will have to just agree to disagree,,,,

      That is all…

    • 131 kathryn kivett
      February 4, 2013 at 7:37 am

      I would love to say good-bye to gun violence. I prefer to think that gun violence was gone b/c the people have spoken and will not tolerate it any longer rather than the release of a picture of PBO skeet shooting.

    • 132 Don
      February 4, 2013 at 7:44 am

      Thank you for your concern, Joy, your concerns have been noted. I wished more people were as concerned as you are about the picture that was released by the Obama administration concerning guns.

    • 133 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 7:48 am

      Yeah…because a picture of him skeet shooting will automatically make gun violence ratchet up in America. Hahahahahahahahaha……that’s just so ridiculous. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

    • 134 Dudette
      February 4, 2013 at 8:07 am

      I don’t care for the picture much either because I abhor guns. But I understand the President’s reasoning behind it.

      Sounds to me that you’re equating “gun control” with taking away all guns period. This is exactly what the NRA and the paranoid wingnuts have been falsely claiming his agenda has been since before he took office. It’s a blatant and well-documented lie.

      Getting rid of all guns might be your stance, which is certainly your perogative. However, President Obama has said repeatedly, he’s not advocating abolishing sport shooting or the rights of people to own guns for self-defense. He’s saying we need RESPONSIBLE GUN SAFETY REGULATION. The range of opinion on the gun issue runs the gamut. The President recognizes this and, as always, he’s trying to get people to focus on the areas where there’s consensus, so that some common sense solutions that will save lives can be implemented. After people get over the hysteria of seeing the scary black man holding a gun then the discussion can get back to what’s important.

      There is no perfect solution that will end all gun violence. But that’s no reason to just give up and do nothing. There’s plenty of evidence that shows there are sensible steps which will in fact reduce it. It’s been done before, and history has shown us the effects of the expired assault weapons ban and loopholes. So we MUST take steps that we know will help to reduce the violence. People of good will, with differing opinions, must come together to move the ball forward.

      It may indeed be difficult to get all of the regulations we might want passed, but to say that it won’t happen now because the President released a picture of himself doing the same thing every President since FDR has done in the enclosed recreational environment at Camp David is hyperbole — plain and simple. I think he knows what he’s doing. That’s my two cents.

    • 135 miss pat
      February 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      Truce lady, truce. Enough is enough. You are like my dead aunt who went to bed arguing, wake up the next morning and pick it up again. Stop. Enough. Give it up. Take a seat; take two seats.

  44. 137 Joy
    February 4, 2013 at 7:41 am

    I think this is very bad timing for him to release a picture such as this. It doesn’t look good on his part. And I’m ashamed that his members decided that this was ok.

    • 138 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 7:43 am

      Blah….blah……blah…..blah…..blah….blah….

    • 141 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 7:46 am

      Oh please, pipe down the hyperbolic hair on fire nonsense. You’re acting like it ruined his presidency and it did not. Is he holding an AR-15? NO. Is he holding a semi-automatic weapon? NO. Is he blowing someone’s head off? NO. Is he killing animals? NO. Is he holding a Bushmaster and spraying bullets into defenseless people? NO. He’s skeet shooting on his birthday. Firing at clay targets in an open range where no one is around who can get wounded. The man can do whatever he damn well pleases. He’s the President of the United States. HIM. Not you. HIM.

      It’s the same thing he did with the birthers. Released the birth certificate while delivering justice to Osama Bin Laden and at the end of the day, who came out tops? He and reasonable Americans. It’s the same thing he’s doing here. Mocking the white house press corps (gossips), the NRA, and the rightwing nut jobs while at the same time getting reasonable gun owners on his side in the gun safety debate because they understand he doesn’t want to take their guns away; he, just like them want reasonable background checks and regulations of assault weapons and magazines/clips. Who’s coming out tops in the gun safety debate? He and reasonable Americans. He and VP Biden are going around the country and gathering up more support, Wayne LaPierre and his cohorts look and sound even more crazy to millions of Americans including NRA members especially during their congressional hearing, PR stunts, disgusting ad mocking Pres. Obama’s children, and LaPierre’s epic fail performance on Chris Wallace’s Fox News Sunday show.

      On the gun safety debate, Pres. Obama is winning the argument and no harmless picture of a man having a great time on his birthday will ruin that. That’s just ridiculous thinking.

      • 142 Don
        February 4, 2013 at 7:49 am

        Thanks for ruining the fun we were about to have with Joy and her fake outrage, UT.

      • 144 Joy
        February 4, 2013 at 7:56 am

        I totally agree with you Ut, his administration in my opinion should have never released this picture of him at such a critical time on such a critical issue and debate.

        • 145 utaustinliberal
          February 4, 2013 at 8:00 am

          I don’t think you properly read my response, because I in no way agree with your hyperbolic rant. I find it ridiculous and insulting to suggest that this is the biggest mistake Pres. Obama has ever made. He’s skeet shooting. If you don’t know what skeet shooting is, I’d suggest something called GOOGLE. He’s not holding an assault weapon and your rants are null and void. Crying out loud, it’s skeet shooting and you’re behaving as though the world has ended. You clearly don’t understand how the government, policy, and politics work.

    • 146 utaustinliberal
      February 4, 2013 at 7:50 am

      Oh please, members of his cabinet don’t have a say in this or any picture being released. Do you not have any idea as to how the white house or in fact the American government works?

      • 147 Don
        February 4, 2013 at 7:52 am

        UT, don’t waste your energy on Joy, she’s a plant and a fake. Go back to Red State or Dkos you phony.

        • 148 Joy
          February 4, 2013 at 7:59 am

          Actually Don, I’m not a plant or a fake, and I really don’t read Red State, I assume it is a right wing nut case sight. Just because I have an opinion doesn’t mean I am right wing. wtf?

          • February 4, 2013 at 8:30 am

            Joy I recall several weeks ago when you came here basically accusing TODers of not caring about the gun violence simply because we were not glued to Piers Morgan on CNN While he was having some gun nut on his show.

            I quite plainly pointed out to you that it was unfair to make that accusation – and Piers was a ratings whore who was not in my opinion any model for gun control advocacy – particularly when the same Piers Morgan had no compunction harboring on his show trigger-happy, self-appointed vigilante George Zimmerman who gunned down a young unarmed teen just a year ago. I also told you that we here at TOD had several discussions about gun violence and laws when the Newton Shooting first occurred over a month prior. I further told you that we would continue to have discussions LONG after people like Piers Morgan finds it profitable to push his “gun advocacy”

            You never responded to any of the points I raised – because it didn’t fit your narrative or whatever crap you were pushing.

            I find it curious and resent the fact that in the last several months, you have only come here to make accusations and to express “disapproval” about one thing or the other. The last person you should be attacking on the issue of guns is President Obama. I didn’t see any posts from you attacking Erin Burnett or Jessica Yellin of CNN when they kept insisting that he released a photo as proof that he had gone skeetshooting. And as UT has pointed out, the skeetshooting gun is a recreational tool with non-living targets. So he should have been using the water gun with Sasha either?

            While you sit behind your computer blogging all the way from Canada, he will be making a trip to Minnesota to push his agenda for gun control legislation. Maybe you should spend your time focusing on what he is actually doing, and less time searching high and low for trivialities to be outraged about.

            • 150 Joy
              February 4, 2013 at 8:59 am

              Well, first of all Hopefruit2, the reason I originally brought up gun violence was because I felt it during the debates of the presidency. NO one was talking about gun violence at that time. I wasn’t paying much attention to Piers prior to the election, and I too thought he was an asshole, but seriously, I had to give him a thumbs up on his advocacy on gun violence in the U.S. If you don’t agree with him taking that on, I can’t argue with you. You will make your own opinions on Piers Morgan. He seems to be the one argueing and fighting right now in the media.

              I totally respect your President. Canadians respect your president. So as I sit behind my computer i hope that I can give my opinion as to what is going on in the U.S. I get heated about it, and I think you should remember that the world outside of the U.S. has something to say. Maybe I don’t always come across very well, and a bit passionate, but I do say it as I see it.

              • 151 hopefruit2
                February 4, 2013 at 9:16 am

                You cannot in one breath claim to support and “really respect” PBO, and in the same breath accusing him of “fucking up” just because he released a photo of himself skeetshooting – a harmless activity and something that the media had been agitating about for the last 2 weeks. In case you’re not aware, JFK, Al Gore, etc have all released photos of themselves doing exactly the same thing.

                Piers Morgan hasn’t done any more for gun violence advocacy than Obama – yet you’re ready to give Morgan a “thumbs up” just because he trotted some nut on his show for ratings hysteria? When Trayvon Martin was gunned down, it was President Obama who COURAGEOUSLY came out and spoke up about the issue, when people like Piers were busy pandering to the shooter and his family, giving them a platform to continue their hatred and rationalize their need for gun violence against unarmed individuals.

                It’s not even so much the fact that you disapproved of the pic that bothers me, it’s your tone – and your general behavior and attitude with regards to this blog on a single issue over the last several months.

                • 152 Joy
                  February 4, 2013 at 9:58 am

                  I came back to read these comments, and you still don’t get it, do you? Perhaps I was wrong in the initial way I said or handled my words, but this isn’t about the era of JFK, Al Gore or anyone else, this is about today! Not 30 years ago. Get your head out of the sand. What is happening in government today vs. 30 years ago is different. Today we are dealing with massive killings in the U.S. And for you to compare this is not right. Today, we need to look very sharply at gun laws. And I feel PBO’s administration doesn’t need to support the chaos of the right wing. For his administration to put out this picture was just wrong, and then for his head to twitter it was even more wrong, It’s just not right. It debilitates what your president has been trying to do all these years.

                  • 153 hopefruit2
                    February 4, 2013 at 10:20 am

                    “Today we are dealing with massive killings in the U.S”

                    Lady please stop advertising your ignorance of the history of gun violence in this country and instead of repeatedly hurling passive-aggressive insults at me, other TODers and PBO, take the time to educate yourself with REAL DATA on the incidence of gun-related deaths over the years in the US. JFK himself was murdered by a gun!!! And that assassination brought up a whole new round of discussion of assault weapons bans. So this is nothing NEW.

                    The only thing that is different about this latest gun discussion is the racial/ethnic composition of the people killed from those guns and the people doing the killings.

                    I’ve provided a link. Please do some reading and try to comprehend those graphs. It will benefit you.

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

            • 155 vcprezofan2
              February 4, 2013 at 9:00 am

              ‘sit behind your computer blogging all the way from Canada’

              Ouch! Hey, Hopefruit, watch it! No stone throwing into the crowd. /frowning/ ;) ;) Have a good Monday! :grin:

        • 159 Dudette
          February 4, 2013 at 8:23 am

          Come on guys, not everybody who supports the President is up on how everything in the WH house. My first reaction to the picture was not quite as outraged as hers. I don’t like it either, but I certainly don’t think it’ll be the reason everything we’re working toward will fail. This is big scary, life-and-death issue. People have strong opinions. Debate is good. So is passion. In the end though, it’s cooler heads (like President Obama’s) that will prevail.

          Are we really saying anyone who thinks the President made a mistake is a troll? Would it make me a troll to say that I hate the drone program or that I think we should have prosecuted those responsible for starting the Iraq war and that it burns me up knowing no one on Wall Street is in jail for the crap they did to the economy? There’s rationale for the President’s action (or inaction) in all these areas. Doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with him. And even I don’t agree with him on everything, I am still a FERVENT supporter. That being said, if my troll-radar is faulty, forgive me. :-)

          • 160 hopefruit2
            February 4, 2013 at 8:43 am

            Dudette, what makes you different from Joy is that over the last couple months, you have been posting and commenting on a daily basis, on all kinds of things, participating in ALL discussions & activities at TOD – good, bad, funny, sad, happy, etc.

            On the other hand, the last two times I’ve seen Joy post here is only to express some sort of outrage about TOD or the President – on a single issue. Remember, we just had an inauguration, an immigration reform speech, and many other several events that people who are “supporters of PBO” would be interested in and would comment on.

            Even those of us who expressed disagreement with the release of the pics, have also expressed disapproval of the media and their foolishness about this issue. But not Joy. She singularly attacked the President and his administration for doing something that the media (not RWNJ’s) had been pushing for all week.

            • 161 Dudette
              February 4, 2013 at 8:54 am

              Thanks hopefruit. I don’t recall Joy’s previous posts, so I just took what I saw at face value. Good to know other TODers have much better memory than me. :-)

              • 162 hopefruit2
                February 4, 2013 at 8:56 am

                No problem Dudette. I remembered that time because I had found her accusation to be quite out of line, and responded accordingly.

          • 163 miss pat
            February 4, 2013 at 12:42 pm

            The things you disagree on will hopefully get taken care of this time. Remember that he is not up for election again so he can kick ass. There is a big difference between you and Miss Sourpuss. You have been here forever, entertaining us. This hurry-come-up person is not going to be here much longer.

      • 164 Joy
        February 4, 2013 at 8:17 am

        UT, who do you think released this photo of him? His dog, Bo? For heavens sake, the whitehouse released the photo.

        • 165 utaustinliberal
          February 4, 2013 at 8:23 am

          Your ignorance on how the government in particular, the white house works is hilarious, pathetic, and disturbing. Cabinet members have no say in pictures being released. Cabinet members are in control of the agencies, departments, and offices they are in charge of. People who sanction release of photographs by the white house are Pete Souza, Jay Carney, and sometimes Pres. Obama. NOT THE CABINET. The fact that the skeet shooting picture was released shows that Pres. Obama is fine by it. He went skeet shooting on his birthday. He didn’t go out and murder a bunch of people. Google is a free tool. You would be wise to use it to read up on how the white house works. Wow. Just wow.

          • 166 Joy
            February 4, 2013 at 8:30 am

            regardless, it was bad taste and bad timing in my opinion.

            • 167 anniebella
              February 4, 2013 at 9:20 am

              So if the NRA brought Congress and Senate refuse to do their job, and there is no gun control pass it will be because of that picture of President Obama skeet shooting. It won’t be because Republicans and some Democrats are in the hip pocket of the NRA. As I’ve said before I think to much is being made out of the skeet shooting picture, so much so that it is pass ridiculous.

              • 168 Joy
                February 4, 2013 at 10:10 am

                I totally think that yes, the NRA have a lot of control. There will be too much made out of the skeet shooting photo. But, these bastards will turn it against this president. I feel this was a very bad time for PBO to make his stance on gun violence with this photo.

  45. February 4, 2013 at 8:23 am
  46. February 4, 2013 at 8:24 am
    • 173 FayPax
      February 4, 2013 at 8:43 am

      I wish they hadn’t released the photo, but since they did, I have the perfect response. Use it liberally :)

      • February 4, 2013 at 9:09 am

        The point of releasing the photo was to shut up so called legitimate media people. So anyone still talking asking about it are just “skeet truthers” or “skeeters”.

        No one should get mad at or blame WH for releasing the photo. Get mad at the msm who continually pick up fringe talking points and bring it into the mainstream.

  47. 178 99ts
    February 4, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Well – good morning everyone. I was being very quiet yesterday cause I don’t understand your football – at all – (although i loved Beyonce and the blackout tweets) – and also too I didn’t want to get into more trouble from UT about football – I be skeered of that one

    BUT – I check out Chips wonderful blog before heading for the bunk – and there is someone on here attacking the best President ever. This does not happen on TOD – so I’m with UT on this one. Many have said they didn’t like the WH releasing the picture – but rather like I didn’t like the President releasing his birth certificate – the media NEVER STOP demanding proof for every thing he says/does.

    So if anyone comes to TOD and says the following ” i have to say that PBO fucked up on showing his gun power” – then they are NOT a supporter of the President. I have never seen on TOD someone saying the President “fucked up”. He wasn’t at his best in the first debate but he did not “fuck up”. That is something President Obama NEVER does.

    So thank you UT and the others for sorting that one out.

  48. 179 JER
    February 4, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Starting Soon: Secretary of State John Kerry greets State Department staff as he begins his new job.
    Live: http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=1

  49. 180 Gazelle
    February 4, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Rising & Shining! First!? :)

  50. 183 dotster3
    February 4, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Wow—-I would think this is huge—-for soccer fans, sports fans…..

  51. 185 hopefruit2
    February 4, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Hey Joy,

    \While you’re in your sanctimonious outrage mode, maybe you can take the time to address the American media and why high-ranking, highly paid WH Press Corps members spend much of their “journalism” on issues like this:

    • 186 Joy
      February 4, 2013 at 9:09 am

      you know hopefruit2, that is just so wrong. I don’t like Mark Knoller. I guess you think I’m a total idiot as to the the morning joe guy. hmmmm, wow! I guess you think also that the world are idiots?

  52. February 4, 2013 at 9:21 am

    A gentle reminder everyone: the blog doesn’t have many rules, but one of them is ‘be civil to each other’. Pleeeeeeeeease when you’re disagreeing with someone’s point of view, don’t be personally abusive, just argue things out – or ignore each other. Thanking you.

  53. 190 anniebella
    February 4, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Okay Chipsticks, nothing personal, but the release of the picture of the President skeet shooting is no big deal to me.


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