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Rise and Shine

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Today:

3:45: President Obama delivers remarks at the Armed Forces Farewell Tribute in honor of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Joint Base Myer-Henderson (C-Span)

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NYT: It happened a few minutes before the beginning of Jim Langevin’s junior cadet shift back in 1980 …. A bullet ricocheted off a locker and went right through the boy’s neck, severing his spinal cord.

At 16, he would never walk again and never fulfill his dream of becoming a police officer.

Now, three decades later and seven terms into his career as one of Rhode Island’s two members of the House of Representatives, Mr. Langevin, 48, is the only quadriplegic ever to serve in Congress….

For the past month, he has been on a quiet campaign to persuade his colleagues to give up their guest passes to next Tuesday’s State of the Union address by President Obama so that victims of gun violence can attend.

That way, he said, when the nation’s highest officeholders look up from the floor of the House to those watching from the gallery, they will not be able to avoid seeing the human toll that guns can exact.

More here

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Upworthy: It’s a fact so jaw-dropping it’s unbelievable — people thought it was a crazy Internet rumor until Politifact verified it. But it’s true: More Americans have died just since 1960 from gun incidents — suicides, accidents, and homicides — than died in every war in U.S. history. The deadliest war the U.S. has ever had is the war we waged against ourselves.

Politifact: Politifact: Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, supporters and opponents of gun control have thrown out statistics to support their point of view.

Here’s one that caught our eye, offered by liberal commentator Mark Shields on the Dec. 21, 2012, edition of the PBS NewsHour.

Shields told host Judy Woodruff, “You know, Judy, the reality is – and it’s a terrible reality – since Robert Kennedy died in the Ambassador Hotel on June 4, 1968, more Americans have died from gunfire than died in … all the wars of this country’s history, from the Revolutionary through the Civil War, World War I, World War II, in those 43 years. … I mean, guns are a problem. And I think they still have to be confronted.”……

More here

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CNN: A group of four senators working behind the scenes on a bipartisan bill to expand background checks on gun sales is making significant progress, according to sources in both parties familiar with their work.

The group includes Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, who has an A rating with the National Rifle Association, Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Illinois, Sen. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, a long time advocate of gun rights, and Chuck Schumer, D-New York, a long time supporter of gun control.

CNN is told the legislation they are working on would effectively require background checks on private gun purchases made with non-licensed gun dealers, according to sources in both parties. That would include closing the so-called gun show loophole.

More here

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NYT: President Obama may have run his last political campaign, but that does not relieve him of his obligations to the Democratic Party.

The president, who has a vested interest in Democrats retaining their Senate majority and trying to narrow Republican control of the House, is already making plans to return to the campaign trail. He has agreed to hold at least 14 separate fund-raising events this year, a Democratic official familiar with the plans told The New York Times, characterizing it as an “aggressive schedule.”

…. Mr. Obama will appear at 10 events outside Washington: five for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and five for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. He will also host one event for each committee in Washington as well as appearing at two joint fund-raising galas for House and Senate candidates.

More here

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Reuters: A rise in exports and lower imports of oil helped push the trade deficit to its narrowest point in nearly three years in December, suggesting the economy did much better in the fourth quarter than initially estimated.

The country’s trade gap narrowed to $38.5 billion during the month, the Commerce Department said on Friday. Analysts polled by Reuters had expected a deficit of $46 billion.

“Trade data for December paint a reassuring and encouraging picture of the US economy at the end of last year,” said Chris Williamson, chief economist at Markit.

More here

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‘President Obama has outlined his plan for fixing our broken immigration system. Add your name to stand with the President’ – here

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BuzzFeed: One of President Obama’s two nominees Thursday for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, Todd M. Hughes, would become the first out gay appeals court judge in the country, if confirmed by Congress.

Hughes currently is the deputy director of the Commercial Litigation Branch of the Civil Division at the United States Department of Justice….. The Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, which runs the Presidential Appointments Project to support out LGBT candidates for appointments, praised the nomination.

More here

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NYT: Cardiss Collins, who reluctantly ran for a Chicago Congressional seat left vacant when her husband died in a plane crash and went on to become Illinois’s first black congresswoman, serving for nearly 25 years as a voice for racial and gender equality and expanded health care for the poor, died on Sunday in Arlington, Va. She was 81.

….. She campaigned little but easily won the primary in April and cruised through the general election in June with 92 percent of the vote. Six years later, and after some early struggles in office — she had never considered a political career before she was thrust into one — she became chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus. For much of the 1980s, she was the only black woman in Congress.

More here

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TPM: Outgoing Energy Department Secretary Steven Chu, who announced his resignation last week, took to his Facebook page Thursday to make light of an article from parody news site “The Onion” alleging that he woke up next to a solar panel after a night of partying in D.C. As Chu wrote in a post on his Facebook page:

    “I just want everyone to know that my decision not to serve a second term as Energy Secretary has absolutely nothing to do with the allegations made in this week’s edition of the Onion. While I’m not going to confirm or deny the charges specifically, I will say that clean, renewable solar power is a growing source of U.S. jobs and is becoming more and more affordable, so it’s no surprise that lots of Americans are falling in love with solar.”

More here

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Don’t miss Colbert at the end:

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Michelle Obama’s Playlist on Spotify:

People: My song with my husband: Al Green’s “Let’s Stay Together”

Michelle Obama: Barack and I danced to “Let’s Stay Together” at this Inauguration, and it was such a special moment for us. We had spent all day together with our family and friends at different Inaugural events, and at the end of the day the dance was really our one-on-one moment with each other. Well, each other and everyone watching on TV!

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MoooOOoooOOooooorning!


341 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 9:07 am

  2. 7 swbluega
    February 8, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Happy Friday TODer’s! Survived another week!!!

    Thanks Chipsticks and TODers for all the information provided during the week. This site is one of the best ways to get informed and stay on top of what’s happening without the skewed point of view of the pundits.

    Enjoyed the Bob Marley birthday tribute. :-D

    Hope those in the Northeast stay safe through the snowstorm.

  3. 9 Lynn
    February 8, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Happy Friday Ms Chips and all TOD folk!!

  4. 10 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:10 am

    GM folks. GM Chips.

  5. 11 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:12 am

  6. 12 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:16 am

  7. 14 ranman11
    February 8, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Good morning and Happy Friday Ms. Chips and TOD family. I hope everyone have a super-fantastic day today. Congrats UT on being first this lovely Friday morning.

  8. 15 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Bravo Stephen Colbert! Freaking fantastic as usual.

    First Lady Michelle Obama listens to Frank Ocean? AGGHHHHHHHHHH…..She is as they say “Hella Cool.”

    Frank Ocean is great. So soulful and full of depth. His collaborations with Jay Z and Kanye West took the songs to another level of awesome.

  9. 16 globalcitizenlinda
    February 8, 2013 at 9:21 am

    please take some time to continue pushing PBO’s ideas to control gun violence because the MSM is already trying to write this off as going no where. Be the change against the NRA – we can do it

  10. 17 Lynn
    February 8, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Hope everyone in the path of the storm is safely hunkered down. Looks like amk is on a roll already this morning.

    I’m looking forward to spending the day here, with the most informed, interesting and entertaining folks on the ‘tubes’!

    This place has saved me from the idiocy that is teeeveee ‘news’ and I am forever grateful!

  11. 18 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:23 am

  12. February 8, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Guess what? I have been arguing with a US Drone all Morning… And while I have succeeded in having him take me off their secretive Hit list, thru now want to talk to You.
    What message should I give to this pesky little Drone?

  13. 24 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:28 am

    LOL.

  14. 25 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:32 am

  15. 32 swbluega
    February 8, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Lawrence O’Donnell weighed in on the drone issue on last night’s show but I think it was from the standpoint of Brennan’s confirmation hearing.

    One of the questions being raised is concerning American citizens under the age of 16…about the consent and meaningful participation. Another question seems to be that while boundaries have been specified, are they adhering to the boundaries.

    LOD’s point of view was that, while there are a number of good questions being raised, the amount of intelligence that would have to be opened up and handed over to [the press?] to answer any of the questions being asked would probably compromise what they were trying to do (i.e., keep Americans from harm). He maintains that the desire for the CIA to testify openly and completely about “how they do this operation” could never happen.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/#50739771

    I have often wondered, why, in a time of war and when our national security has been endangered (9/11), does the press feel that they are entitled to know and REPORT EVERYTHING. Do they not understand that along with the rights they are always citing comes responsibility? Is there no such thing as responsible journalism anymore?

    • February 8, 2013 at 9:50 am

      This constant Drone issue, is Demagouging ten fold! Their is distrust that this President can’t handle it.
      Pot meets kettle!

    • February 8, 2013 at 9:51 am

      Do these countries have their own terrorism task force? Terrorism kills far more Muslims than Americans. What are these other countries doing to protect their own people? I’m asking because I don’t know and I never hear about what countries like Pakistan are doing. I mean, Osama was just chilling near a military town. What the heck was the Pakistani gov’t doing all that time?

      • February 8, 2013 at 9:55 am

        The truth? Pakistan is a Terrorist country. They have 80 nuclear weapons and we are basically paying the government not to nuke India.
        Some in the Pakistani Givernment are ok, others, not so much.

    • 36 proudofobama
      February 8, 2013 at 11:08 am

      Exactly the point Lawrence made last night. How can the WH keep the country safe AND tell Congress and everybody else yelling and screaming classified info? It’s just stupid. Lawrence dealt with the issue from the standpoint of someone who’s actually worked in government, which Rachel, Ed and the rest of the hair-on-fire- crew have not. They look like high school students who’ve studied a subject a little — but haven’t lived it — and think they know all there is to know about it.

      It’s also dangerous and irresponsible. They are fearmongering and not being truthful about what this “innocent” American citizen actually did. They have been shameful.

    • 37 57andfemale
      February 8, 2013 at 11:52 am

      Only if it’s a Democratic administration. They ‘respect’ these boundaries when it’s a Repub administration, and take their God damned word for everything.

      Brennan said something startling in the hearing yesterday, when he was asked about his stance on the effectiveness of torture in a statement he made in 2007. In essence, he said he was lied to – that the Bush administration told him things that were not true, and he relied on that information. He didn’t equivocate by saying ‘what we knew to be true at the time’. He all but said they told him lies in order to further their agenda (my words, not his).

  16. February 8, 2013 at 9:43 am

  17. 44 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:45 am

  18. 45 vcprezofan2
    February 8, 2013 at 9:46 am

    GOOD Friday Morning, Obots! It’s snowed so much overnight, and still is ongoing, that the school buses were cancelled and by the looks of my driveway I’m not going anywhere today. At least, not unless I shovel the whole thing out which I have no current plans to do. Of course, maybe I can convince Cookemom to be neighbourly and share Mr. Cookeman; I have my own shovels, Cookemom, so you won’t need to send yours with him.

    • 46 Japa21
      February 8, 2013 at 9:53 am

      Have a hunch that if Cookeman shoveled his snow last night, he might be in traction this morning. The snow we got was about the heaviest snow I have ever seen. May not have been much in inches (and come to think of it probably none by Cookemom, but in my neck of the woods, it was no fun.

      • 47 vcprezofan2
        February 8, 2013 at 10:01 am

        Oh dear, Japa, I hate heavy snow! Another reason I’m not going to check mine just yet. I’m working on the theory it may go away on its own before I HAVE to leave the house. (ps. Highly unlikely, but I really don’t need to think of it right now, so I’m not going to.) ;)

        Good morning to you, sir!

        • 48 Japa21
          February 8, 2013 at 10:26 am

          GM VC. It was just about 3 weeks ago I was talking about the dearth of snow in Chicago and how it was breaking all sorts of records. Over the last 2 weeks I have become tired of winter. Of course, considering what the NE is going to get hit with tongight and tomorrow, I have no reason to complain.

          • 49 vcprezofan2
            February 8, 2013 at 10:33 am

            I’m in a similar boat, Japa, with hardly any snow all winter to date, only having to clear the driveway once or twice. I’m not really complaining either because I’d rather have the snow in winter when I ‘expect’ it, than have it showing up in full force in May or June. And of course, since I am housebound today, the fact that my neighbours’ cars are all almost covered with snow is just an interesting fact. I smartly left mine in the garage; although that means I have move driveway to clean. ;)

        • 50 cookemom
          February 8, 2013 at 10:38 am

          I live near an elementary school and the little kiddies just love the snow. They are my human snow shovels, as they romp and play to and from school. They just stomp in around and in no time it’s all been pretty much beaten into surrender.

          • 51 vcprezofan2
            February 8, 2013 at 10:41 am

            Is this your subtle way of saying you’re not sending in Mr. Cookeman and the snow blower? I don’t live that close to an elementary school!

      • 55 cookemom
        February 8, 2013 at 10:34 am

        You’re right Japa, we didn’t get too much around my place. What we did get was really heavy snow. I looked at the forecast, and decided it’s not going to be around long, so why bother.

      • 57 yardarm756
        February 8, 2013 at 12:18 pm

        Didn’t get one flake down here on the South side.

    • February 8, 2013 at 10:32 am

      morning VC, sorry but cookeman wouldn’t be caught anywhere near a shovel. He’s a macho snow blower man. I’m the one who uses the shovel for exercise. And before you ask, no I will not be up your way to exercise at your house. So, I suggest you just curl up under a warm blankie, and a hot TODdie.

      • 59 vcprezofan2
        February 8, 2013 at 10:36 am

        Well, well, Cookeman COULD bring the snow blower with him. I don’t mind. (And I would still be able to curl up under a blankie were I the curl-up-under-blankie type, which I am not.) Be neighbourly now, CM!

    • 60 57andfemale
      February 8, 2013 at 11:55 am

      Everything’s covered in ice here in Chicago. Once you get to a main street, it’s okay but the side streets are really bad. Cars are iced over. Icy rain and sleet, then snow, then more icy rain.

      I don’t like driving on icy roads but I made it work okay.

      • 61 vcprezofan2
        February 8, 2013 at 12:18 pm

        ‘but I made it to work okay’ Good, 57F! :grin:

        • 62 57andfemale
          February 8, 2013 at 12:23 pm

          Me hate driving in bad weather. Especially since I thought I was using the traction control and my husband told me yesterday that I’d been driving with the traction control turned off! Amazing I didn’t end up wrapped around a tree multiple times.

  19. February 8, 2013 at 9:47 am

    My sources tell me their is a big Confab tonight. It includes Maddow, Greenwald, Wyden and a special guest Zawahiri(Al Qaeda Leader).
    My sources indicate, that the meeting is designed to ask- how can we make Americans feel sorry for Al Qaeda?
    More details at 11…!

  20. 64 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 9:51 am

  21. 65 nabsentia23
    February 8, 2013 at 10:05 am

    OMG! That statistic on gun violence is frightening. It’s time for the NRA and gun manufacturers to realize that the tide is turning against them. I mean…come on! Isn’t having a gun suppose to deter violence? Well, it’s clear that the opposite is true.

  22. 68 anniebella
    February 8, 2013 at 10:09 am

    How nice of Ms. Maddow to spent about five seconds on Hadiya Pendleton, considering she spent all the rest of her show on drones, rights of American citizens who join terrorists groups, and John Brennan’s hearing.

    • 69 hopefruit2
      February 8, 2013 at 10:32 am

      And the only reason she spent even that much time on Hadiya is because the kid lives in Chicago and was at the Inauguration ceremony – hence the easy “Obama” association.

    • 70 0388jojothecat
      February 8, 2013 at 10:51 am

      I stopped watching The Ed Show since October when he had a hissy fit over the first debate. I stopped watching Maddow after the election and I’ve been only watching LO when he’s there, I won’t watch Ezra Klein when he subs for LO. I am happy to stop watching MSNBC altogehter except for Rev Al’s show when I can.

  23. February 8, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Murkowski mulls ‘hold’ on Interior nominee over road’s rejection
    Ben Geman
    02/08/13 07:06 AM ET
    The Interior Department announced this week it does not intend to allow a road through the Izembek National Wildlife Refuge.…-

    -/
    They are going to filibuster all of his nominees.
    Thank Chuck Schumer for putting that watered down Filibuster reform.
    Thanks Chuck.
    Well, I guess the President is going to have to run the whole government by himself?

    • 72 anniebella
      February 8, 2013 at 10:19 am

      joive141, that is why so many people were upset with Harry Reid and Mr. Turtle came up when they come up with that water down filibuster reform. You can’t trust those Republicans. And sometimes I wonder about the Democrats.

      • February 8, 2013 at 10:21 am

        Me too! This whole Congress is being run by special interests. When an old issue like this explodes like it has, it’s because Congress as a whole is mad at the Executive branch. And by proxy this president.
        They want something…!

        • 74 swbluega
          February 8, 2013 at 10:44 am

          It seems like since their one-term agenda failed, they’re hoping that by throwing the kitchen sink, something will stick and the President, and thus his legacy, will be discredited.

          Why else did the President have a different playing field once he took office? Why are questions and procedures allowed in these confirmation hearings that have not been done before?

          This will continue to happen because the media keeps aiding it with only token challenges.

    • 75 Lovepolitics2008
      February 8, 2013 at 10:25 am

      The “checks and balances” thing is a good idea that has gone too far. One senator shouldn’t have the power to block a nomination made by a president democratically elected. This is ridiculous.

    • 76 57andfemale
      February 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm

      It’s Reid’s fault, all the way. I don’t think I will ever forgive him, because he completely misled us all, up until the last minute. And after this worthless deal with McTurtle was made and shoved through the Senate with lightning speed, Reid said he never intended on lowering or changing the 60-vote threshold.

      Let’s be clear on something: if I Republican leader had done anything this egregious to the wishes of his party, he’d be kicked to the curb. And yet Harry Reid keeps his position.

      Sure he’s been okay on certain things, but I have to believe that almost any Democratic leader would have at least accomplished the things that Harry accomplished. He ain’t no Lyndon Johnson, that’s for sure.

      He’s not a leader at all and he lied to us about filibuster reform. Eff Harry Reid.

      • February 8, 2013 at 12:25 pm

        I don’t know if he ever had the votes. I think there was 4 or 5 Dem Senators that came out against any real reform. Harry sure gave me the impression that he did.

        It might also have been the fear of going nuclear knowing that he was opening Pandora’s Box to when Republicans get back in power. I don’t think there is any question they would abuse it to the detriment of the country.

        It’s weak tea no doubt but I thought Deaniac did a pretty good job of breaking it down and he like many people he was very disappointed in Reid’s decision .Turns out there were a few good things in the bill:

        http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/01/did-harry-reid-choose-to-lose-battle-to.html

        • 78 57andfemale
          February 8, 2013 at 2:25 pm

          I don’t know if it was fact or a supposition: but allegedly there would have been no reason to McConnell to negotiate if Reid didn’t have the votes. It was presented as fact, but that could be spin from the PL.

          I don’t prescribe to the argument that it would bite us in the butt when and if Repubs get back in power. Mark my words, if they regain control of the Senate there will be no filibuster to Dem’s to use. They are devoid of shame.

          Yes, there are some good things in the bill. I will never be an ‘all or nothing’ – type. I’m a pragmatist. And I never expected some of the pie-in-the-sky notions that Dem’s thought they were gonna get, like a talking filibuster.

          I was incensed, however, when Reid actually stated that he never intended on changing the 60-vote threshold. He had led us to believe that the ‘burden on the minority’ threshold was part of the mix, and then he turned around and said he had never considered it. That’s what makes me mad.

    • February 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm

      Isn’t that blackmail? Geithner had to run the Treasury department by himself in those first days of the Administration, at the worst point of the economic crisis, and I think that was shameful behavior from Congress. It was bad enough that Republicans were obstructing the recovery and ended up not lifting a single finger (except the middle one, of course) to do a thing to help the country evade a depression. But, that the very department that was charged with solving the problem was held up by obstruction – and then the GOP was rewarded for that behavior in 2010, and to this day, still get away with filibustering… it just makes me very upset. This isn’t normal behavior, and I don’t know why Americans put up with it.

  24. February 8, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

    • 81 hgerhard
      February 8, 2013 at 10:19 am

      Good morning TOD family,
      The snow has started to fall here in my small coastal home town of Winthrop, Massachusetts. The sky is grey and it looks like we’re in for a really massive storm. My worst fear is loss of electricity which is almost a given in this situation. So no radio, no internet (no TOD to keep me sane) and no heat or lights either. By mid-afternoon, the coastal roads will be closed. But I’m prepared with stacks of wool blankets, several thermos bottles with coffee and chicken soup and a week’s supply of dog and cat food. All outside furniture and barrels have been secured and my snow shovel is right by the front door. We had an event planned for tomorrow to gather nomination signatures for Ed Markey who is running for U.S. Senate to replace John Kerry. But that along with almost all other outdoor activity had to be cancelled. Schools are closed and most businesses have let their employees stay home. It will be a great weekend to write letters to Congress about immigration reform and gun control. I may also do a little house cleaning as long as it’s not too cold. By Tuesday, I hope things will be back to normal – we have a watch party for the State of the Union address.

      • 82 Japa21
        February 8, 2013 at 10:28 am

        Stay safe and warm. We got hit in the Midwest yesterday but nothing like you are going to get.

      • February 8, 2013 at 11:05 am

        Is it too late to run and get an iPad or iPhone? You can charge them in the car (if the car will start) … kept me sane during our power outage after the tornadoes last year! I could still go on TOD!!

      • 84 vcprezofan2
        February 8, 2013 at 11:17 am

        Yes, Hgerhard, stay safe, and warm, and inside! I may gripe about the snow, but I don’t usually have any great apprehensions about loss of electricity. Crossing fingers things won’t be as bad as you fear.

      • 85 57andfemale
        February 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm

        Stay safe.

        • 86 hgerhard
          February 8, 2013 at 12:54 pm

          Thank you all for the good wishes. I will stay on TOD as long as possible. My car is in a safe place away from my house, and even public transportation will be suspended after 3:30 p.m. It’s a good thing that the storm is happening on a weekend – less disruption for business.
          We’ll get through it – spring is just around the corner.

  25. February 8, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Rachel is the new John Connor-

    Skynet is a fictional, self-aware artificial intelligence system which features centrally in the Terminator franchise and serves as the franchise’s main antagonist. Scarcely depicted visually in any of the Terminator media, Skynet’s operations are almost exclusively performed by war-machines, cyborgs (usually a Terminator), and other computer systems, with its ultimate goal the extinction of the human race.
    :)

  26. February 8, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I have a question. Why do you think the white paper was leaked? Afterall, Congress had it in their possession since June and Al-Alwaki was killed September, 2011. Was it about the Brennan confirmation hearing or gun control?

    • February 8, 2013 at 10:24 am

      The Republicans are leaking liberal issues, designed to divide the base from this President, in order to regain the upper hand.
      It’s an old playbook, but it works.

      • 91 Nena20409
        February 8, 2013 at 10:30 am

        I truly believe this time it was the Dems leaking this story. They want the discussion. They didn’t leak it to Fox. Fox would have not cared as much. So it was leaked on TRMS.

    • February 8, 2013 at 11:00 am

      They want the conversation off of gun control, but the gun violence in America keeps rearing its ugly head. The whole country is fixated on the bloody rampage in California.

  27. 95 Nena20409
    February 8, 2013 at 10:28 am

    GM, Good Day all beautiful TODville Villagers.

    I salute Ms. Chips for the spot light she devoted to the sad, crude gun deaths here in American. Thank you. Thank you.

    It’s one of the main reasons that the Gun lobbyists didn’t what studies continued in the affects of Guns ravaging our society. Over 300M guns and more being sold by and from mostly the same people over and over again. Then ALEC and KOCH Roaches working state by states to make Guns more easily available. My Roman Catholic Bishops are worried about the unborn. They are dogmatic about contraceptives. Why Not take the issue of Guns and Death Penalty as passionate as they take Women’s Reproductive System? Hmm?

    Nothing works best as Sun Light shinning through and exposing what are hidden, untouched, unspoken and forgotten.

    Thank you. I appreciate this Page, especially on a TGIF.

  28. 96 amk for obama
    February 8, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Ok, time for a ‘poll’.

    Which pundtwit you like to listen to ?

    It’s colbear for me.

  29. February 8, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Caroline Kennedy to be Ambassador to Canada-

    http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/americas/281811-report-caroline-kennedy-leading-contender-to-be-ambassador-to-canada

    I am assuming her mom was Canadian French?
    This would be cool!

    • February 8, 2013 at 10:53 am

      No she wasn’t. She was American.

      • 101 LB4Obama
        February 8, 2013 at 10:57 am

        Yes, Jacqueline Bouvier was American. Her father’s family came from France, which is why she so loved Paris and spent much time there as a young adolescent. Her father “Black Jack” Bouvier was very handsome and JFK, Jr. favored him A LOT!

          • 103 carolyn
            February 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm

            When I read the article, several other names were mentioned as possible appointees too. I stupidly read some of the comments; the level of vitriol, hatred and stupidity was unbelievable. I should learn not to do that.
            With regard to Senators and their bloviating statements about holds, etc…..I don’t ever believe them. These statements are all for public consumption, and have some audience in mind. The work of the Senate goes on quietly, in committees and offices, not on the TV. I don’t believe Sen. Mikulski will hold up one of the President’s appointees.

    • 104 LB4Obama
      February 8, 2013 at 10:55 am

      Over at MSNBC.com/First Read ol’ Chuck Toad & Co. make sure to point out that a new Fox News poll and a new Quinniapac poll have PBO approval below 50%. Right before the SOFU speech next week. Good God! Surely can’t let him be above 50% going into the “big speech” right? i believe this is why the leaked “white paper”. According to the jackals, it is official, THE HONEYMOON IS OVER! God, I loathe the media.

      • February 8, 2013 at 11:07 am

        So, the drone stuff has weakened the President?
        Check!

        • 106 proudofobama
          February 8, 2013 at 11:11 am

          And are we supposed to believe these polls? Not intending to sound like the righties who were in lal-la-land about the polling during the election, but the polls did show the race within a 1% spread and PBO won by 4%. But we know this beating the drone drum was designed to erode PBO’s support. The media just stinks.

        • 107 hopefruit2
          February 8, 2013 at 11:47 am

          The “drone stuff” has NOT weakened the President. Jovie by now you should know that the media pushes polls to manipulate the public and undermine the president rather than accurately report what’s really happening. Their conveniently timed polls are designed as such. And we’re not falling that crap. Not anymore. Not this time.

        • February 8, 2013 at 12:33 pm

          I think other polls show that a great majority are not concerned about drones.

      • 109 mophene
        February 8, 2013 at 11:31 am

        Ha, the MSM had better worry about it’s own poor showing in the polls, the only news organization that people trust more,than distrust is PBS.

      • 111 Lovepolitics2008
        February 8, 2013 at 11:56 am

        These polls don’t make sense. President Obama’s numbers were 60% a couple of weeks ago. He had already spoken about gun control. What’s new is the talk about drones, and 80% are on the side of President Obama on this. I don’t get it.

      • February 8, 2013 at 12:04 pm

        If most Americans approve of drones it would have no impact on his approval ratings.

  30. February 8, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Good morning everyone. For those affected by the storm, keep safe.

  31. February 8, 2013 at 10:56 am

  32. 118 proudofobama
    February 8, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Good morning, Chips and TOD family. Happy Friday to all. So glad our President will be speaking today. I need to hear his calming voice. Hope he has a restful weekend as he prepares to kick butt with his SOTU speech. He’s working so hard for this country while even members of his own party are sitting on their hands and attacking him. (Looking at you, Ron Wyden.) But I know he shall prevail. He always does.

    • 119 HZ
      February 8, 2013 at 11:22 am

      Good Morning Chips and my TOD Family. May this be a wonderful day to enjoy for all of us in some way. Grateful for our POTUS. May his day be rewarded with much joy and peace as he takes care of the nation’s business.

      Be safe, my TOD Family members in the cold weather areas. ((((( Lots of love to all of you)))))

      To Sen. Wyden: What are you really doing for the people that they will look back on next week and say, “He really did help me and my family last week while appearing on tv. We have more food on the table, our kids college bills are being paid, grandmother got her medicines this month, we were able to take little Sam to get his treatment for this week, and our children feel a little more safer at their schools this week. Our young teachers feel calmner when they enter the classrooms after the nation’s terrific gun violence.”

      POB keep trusting in your faith and do not give up.

      ” Life’s most persistent and urgent question is, “What are you doing for others?” Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.

  33. February 8, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Also, Grassley says that he is all for Violence against Womens Act, just nit fir American Indians.
    Good old Grassley, still thinks we are fighting the Apache!

    • February 8, 2013 at 11:11 am

      They are very clear that the Native American should not have the ability to prosecute white Americans. Up until about a year ago, the murder of a Native American would only get a year. They increased it to three years.

      • 122 Nena20409
        February 8, 2013 at 11:14 am

        Undocumented immigrants…..women being beaten and abused by their spouses or significant others….they are against that too.

        • February 8, 2013 at 11:33 am

          Nina, I answered your question, but for reason it wouldn’t register. They are against undocumented immigrants, same-sex couples and Native Americans being covered in the legislation. The rape and abuse statistics of Native American women are astounding.

    • 125 Linda
      February 8, 2013 at 11:26 am

      “Rape on the Reservation”

      2011 Livingston Award for National Reporting
      Correspondent Mariana van Zeller and Producer John Henion of Current TV examine the increased incidence of rape committed by members of South Dakota’s Rosebud Indian reservation against young women residents. The report brought to light the violent epidemic and the disturbing acceptance of this behavior by perpetrators who saw these crimes as part of normal behavior.

  34. 126 dotster3
    February 8, 2013 at 11:19 am

    WARNING! The level of discourse on The View will lower your IQ by 10 or more points after just one week of viewing!

  35. 129 cookemom
    February 8, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Pres Clinton speaking now at the Dem retreat.

  36. February 8, 2013 at 11:23 am

  37. February 8, 2013 at 11:45 am

  38. 138 cookemom
    February 8, 2013 at 11:55 am

    School shooting in Florida no details

  39. February 8, 2013 at 12:01 pm

  40. 145 dotster3
    February 8, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Colbert at Dem retreat——this was after he told them that Congress is less popular than colonoscopies (true story)

  41. February 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    This is important.

    ” Obama Stood Up in an Election Year

    by BooMan
    Fri Feb 8th, 2013 at 09:32:02 AM EST
    In the period of the president’s maximum political peril, the summer of 2012, then CIA Director David Petraeus presented him with a plan for arming the Syrian rebel forces fighting to topple Bashar al-Assad and his regime. In addition to Petraeus, the plan was supported by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey. Barack Obama rejected their advice and insisted that the United States would provide only non-lethal aid. Director Petraeus resigned on Election Day, shortly after the exit polls were known. None of the other players groused about the decision or created any sense of division or disarray within the national security team.

    Obama not only stood up to the CIA and the top brass at the Pentagon, he did it without the cover of Clinton or Panetta. He kept us out of a war the rest of the Establishment wanted to fight; he did it without arousing disloyalty, and he did it in the heat of a presidential campaign.”

    #TrustBarack

  42. 159 Lynn
    February 8, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Did anyone hear about a ‘personhood’ amendment passing in N. Dakota?

  43. February 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    • 164 Linda
      February 8, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      Nice Smackdown from Levin……NOW VOTE !

      • February 8, 2013 at 12:50 pm

        Yep

        • 166 57andfemale
          February 8, 2013 at 2:15 pm

          The notion of Republicans being ‘troubled’ by business conflicts of a nominee is laughable.

          Cheney started a way in order to enrich Halliburton, for God’s sake.

          • 167 57andfemale
            February 8, 2013 at 3:07 pm

            oops. “war” not “way”

          • 168 jackiegrumbacher
            February 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm

            Yes, there’s a level of farce here, 57, that even Colbert couldn’t match. People whose hands are glued to the pockets of big business are troubled by other people’s business conflicts. Do they have any mirrors in the Senate restrooms?

            • 169 57andfemale
              February 8, 2013 at 4:35 pm

              I laughed out loud. “Business dealings’ troubled them? Laugh out loud funny, if it wasn’t so pathetic.

      • 170 Ladyhawke
        February 8, 2013 at 1:21 pm

        “BUT YOU COULD SAY THAT TED CRUZ IN THE SENATE IS UNPRECEDENTED TOO.”

        —————————————————————-

        Norman Ornstein, an expert on congressional procedure at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, called Cruz’s tactics “unprecedented.” “You could say that there’s been requests for detailed information [in the past],” Ornstein told the Daily Beast, “but this goes even beyond the intrusive questionnaires candidates fill out during the vetting process.” Ornstein also specifically called out Cruz. “That a Freshman senator would ask for that level of information says more about Ted Cruz than about anything else,” he said. “I’ve never heard of anything like that before,” adding, “but you could say that Ted Cruz in the Senate is unprecedented too.”

        ———————————————————————

        http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/02/07/1554051/national-security-brief-cruz-hagel-obstruction/

  44. 171 Pamela
    February 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    http://www.democraticstuff.com/mlk National Back History month, sez we should check it out! All Union Made!

  45. 172 vcprezofan2
    February 8, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Confession = any mistakes I make can be blamed on frozen fingertips! I actually had to go out and shovel the driveway because the contractor showed up (with his daughter who had school canceled due to weather)! The good thing is he helped with the shoveling – that was the only way he could get his truck into the driveway. I can’t believe how much snow was piled up there even though I had shoveled last night before going to bed, just in case. Truly, I figured he would just text that he couldn’t make it, so imagine my surprise when the doorbell rang! Ay me, life is…..life. :lol:

    Now I have to rediscover where I was in the village and what was happening, so off go.

    • 173 CEB
      February 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm

      Hang in there; hope everything goes well with the contractor and the weather.

      I cannot imagine what it is like to spend weeks each year with gray skies, ice and snow. I live in sunny Florida in an area that has seen light snow only 2 times during my almost 6 decades of living here.

      • 174 vcprezofan2
        February 8, 2013 at 1:52 pm

        TY, CEB, I hope things go well too. ;) BTW, you don’t have to ‘imagine’ ‘gray skies, ice and snow’, you can come visit and experience it for real. I wouldn’t mind at all having to share my ice and snow with you and thereby widening your horizons. ;)

        • 175 Japa21
          February 8, 2013 at 2:09 pm

          Plus having an extra set of hands for the shoveling duties.

          • 176 vcprezofan2
            February 8, 2013 at 2:17 pm

            Excellent idea, Japa! How could I have forgotten this aspect of ‘the broadening of CEB’s snow experiences’? Whoever said ‘two heads are better than one’ ‘hit the nail on the head’.

      • 177 57andfemale
        February 8, 2013 at 2:10 pm

        We’re tough! We’ve got character!

  46. 178 Bill R.
    February 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    James DePriest, former conductor of the Oregon Symphony, nephew of Marian Anderson, dead at age 76. I’ve watched him conduct many times.

  47. 179 hopefruit2
    February 8, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    The Weather Channel is owned by NBC corp, so sensationalism and ratings rule the day. It’s a matter of time before they name a winter storm Obama, or Barack.

  48. 186 dotster3
    February 8, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    I join those who harbor suspicions about these new polls and the touting of same (as Tamron is doing right now)——that Obama’s approvals have taken “a dive” in the last month——that only minorities approve of Obama——-and that Hillary Clinton is the most popular politician in the country. (I can’t believe all the daily/hourly Hillary hype everywhere—-what is that???) Something’s amiss somewhere. Obama’s approval was at 60% 2 or 3 weeks ago —?—–is that when certain forces went to work in pushing negative stories in trying to drag him back down?—-or are all these polls just a total sham? It’s almost enough to make one walk away in disgust. Everything seems manipulated.

  49. February 8, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    President Obama is poised to sign off on a new internal review of U.S. nuclear weapons strategy that would reduce the arsenal by one-third, resulting in billions in savings to the Pentagon and Energy Department.

    The recommended reductions were included in a draft version of a classified decision directive compiled by top defense and national security officials inside the White House, according to a report by the Center for Public Integrity issued Friday. 

    http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/army/281953-report-obama-white-house-considered-cut-to-us-nuclear-arsenal-by-one-third-

  50. February 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Hidoho folks!! Thanks to the person who posted backstory about then Sen Obama’s DNC speech. Awesome read.
    Jovie, you really made me laugh with your ‘drone jokes’. Ya think, you could send it my way? I assume wifi connection would improve 100x. I am in Marietta, Ga and reception sucks!! Thanks, I will keep a look out for it overhead! I hear that they are noiseless LOL>

  51. 201 hopefruit2
    February 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    • 202 itgurl_29
      February 8, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      I’m already more sick of the Hillary shilling than I was in ’08. The inevitability meme hurt her last time around. Now they’re not only trying to shove her down our throats, but they’re doing it at the expense of trying to overshadow PBO’s second term. The media wants the Clintons back in office so everything can go back to normal. More bullshit wars, more sex scandals, more cocktail parties, etc.

      She won’t be getting my vote.

      • 203 symmetry11
        February 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm

        If she plans to run, it will hurt her again. I have not watched daytime cable news all week. They have truly gotten on my last nerve. Of course her approval rating is high. PPl are approving of her job as SOS, not as an actual politician. The media needs to learn that there is a difference. The moment she actually steps into politics, those numbers will go down.

        • 204 57andfemale
          February 8, 2013 at 3:05 pm

          Next to the black guy in office, Republicans hate the Clintons more than anyone. Derangement syndrome started with Bill Clinton and it will return if she runs.

          I am a pragmatic progressive, but Bill is damn near a true Republican. The financial crisis started with the laws he supported. The Telecom bill gave the media to the RW. I’m grateful for everything he did for PBO, and he did a lot. But a Hillary administration will meet the same obstruction that PBO faced, plus endless faux scandals that will plague her administration.

          I hope she knows this.

          • 205 hopefruit2
            February 8, 2013 at 3:36 pm

            Yes, I hope she’s smart enough to realize that all this MSM fawning is not genuine, and not let this go to her head. I mean when Newt Gingrich is praising you to high heaven, you gotta recognize that a fish stinks somewhere.

            • 206 57andfemale
              February 8, 2013 at 4:03 pm

              The problem is, she has wanted to be President her entire life. I don’t know if she could ignore the siren’s call.

              But I hope she doesn’t. She and Bill pissed me off royally during the 2008 campaign, but I remember a photo of her hauling her bags to some airplane, and seeing how she walked and held herself – Hillary’s a little older than I, and I can tell where her back and joints hurt. A campaign can make a man look rigorous, and take its toll on a woman.

              Besides, she lives in a center-right universe in which she’s completely comfortable. PBO lives there when he has to, understands its use for national security, but in his heart he’s that young man from 23 years ago who wanted to do nothing with his life but serve his community. He’s liberal but sensible, but truly liberal in his heart. Hillary and Bill play liberal when they campaign but don’t govern from there. Bill has never apologized for repealing Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, Telecom bill. I don’t want to return to a generation ago of DLC true believers. I expect a President to be pragmatic, sensible and understand that true change should be incremental. But I don’t want a center-right believer who is going to have to face scandal hearings from every woman the RWNJ’s can trump up whoever shook Bill Clinton’s hand.

      • 207 hopefruit2
        February 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm

        The media wants a Republican in office in 2016, and they’re using Hillary as a weapon to cause division among Democrats – particularly to alienate Obama’s strong coalition – without whom Hillary CANNOT win in 2016, not matter how much the PUMAS vote for her.

        If you notice this newfangled Clinton-love is ALWAYS at Obama’s and never at the Republicans’ expense. And it’s disinenguous to say that Hillary is the most popular politician when she hasn’t been really involved in politics or campaigning since 2008!!! She has been working for Barack Obama – a HUGE reason why she’s so popular. Her popularity emerged not as an independent politician, but as Secretary of State in the OBAMA CABINET!!

    • 211 57andfemale
      February 8, 2013 at 3:02 pm

      She wouldn’t be ‘the most popular’ if PBO had not rehabilitated her brand. Although I doubt the Clintons see it that way.

      The notion that Hillary is some progressive lion is just ridiculous.

      • 212 lisalovesobama
        February 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

        thank you. If she runs, it won’t be too long before the people calling for her now, will see once again, why everyone else chose Barack Obama in 2008. Idiots. People always think the grass is greener on the other side. Hopefully, Hillary realizes this and that the sun has set on her future as a president. I don’t need another Clinton or Bush in the Whitehouse.

        • 213 Pamela
          February 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm

          I think she knows very well, and that she is too smart to be pushed around. She has seen it all, and I believe she genuinely sees politics differently now, having worked so closely with PBO. This is all noise and dust particles. I’m ignoring it.

        • 214 57andfemale
          February 8, 2013 at 4:38 pm

          I didn’t want her to run in 2008 because I felt that the Clintons had had their chance and she would be divisive, even if it wasn’t of her own making.

          I think she did a fine job as SoS. Bill was effing brilliant from the convention on, and didn’t do or say anything stupid. But I do remember how the Clintons took my respect and ground it into the ground, with the dirty way they ran her campaign. I’d get past it, I’d vote for her of course. But I’ll never have illusions about the Clintons ever again. Maybe that’s petty of me, but that’s how I feel.

          • 215 lisalovesobama
            February 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm

            THIS. if she’s smart, she’ll exit politics stage left and use her popularity from the Obama Rehabilitation Center and create some initiative for helping girls or whatever it is she’s into. If she thinks that she– as establishment— can win against the repukes, she’s crazy. If the choice were between her and a puke, I’d choose her, but not because I thought she was a good choice, but because of the alternative.

            • 216 jacquelineoboomer
              February 8, 2013 at 6:36 pm

              Agree with every word you wrote, lisa. (And love the concept of the “Obama Rehabilitation Center.”) I will add just one question – well, maybe a couple. I like to think I pay somewhat close attention to politics. Other than racking up 40 gazillion miles of travel and leaving the SOS position without getting herself or our nation in any hot water on the diplomatic front that I’m aware of (both feats, I realize, and I’m grateful), what singular accomplishment came from it due to her efforts? The SOS carries the President’s agenda around the world. She was Pres. Obama’s representative, traveling that globe. Is it crass of me to ask what she changed as an individual, or what she gained, other than popularity for herself? The President was admired around the world from the start, so she didn’t add to his (and I realize she didn’t detract, either, for which I’m grateful). This is not to discount her speaking out for women and girls around the world, but she could have done that without the Cabinet post. And it’s not an age thing, because I’m their age. I’ve kept my mouth shut about this, but all I can think to say is that the politics of the 1990s are ohvah. They were over in November 2008, and we can’t look back. A warm and hearty thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, for your service to our country, and I hope you both enjoy your retirement. Oh, and, Bill, please leave the national spotlight, before some of us bring your racist comments in South Carolina in ’08 out of retirement, where we tucked them away in support of Pres. Obama and his choice of your wife as SOS during his first term. Don’t mean to offend stronger Hillary 2016 supporters; this is just my personal opinion.

              • 217 EDP4BHO
                February 8, 2013 at 8:07 pm

                And I love you personal opinion jb. :-D No looking back !

              • 219 lisalovesobama
                February 8, 2013 at 8:22 pm

                I doubt the so called support for Hillary is as strong as the media keeps bragging about in reality. I have a feeling if she runs, she’ll come to see that.

              • 222 nathkatun7
                February 8, 2013 at 8:56 pm

                Jacqueline O, your comment reminded of Mari Evans’ poem “Speak Truth to the People.” You definitely spoke Truth. I think Hillary Clinton did a good job as Sec. of State, but, as both you and Hopefruit2 have pointed out, she was carrying out policies approved by President Obama. What I don’t understand is: why are people emulating her while they are at the same denigrating President Obama?

                On a personal note: Ive already made up my mind about 2016. If the VP, Joseph R. Biden, decides to run he will be my #1 choice. The reason is I trust him to continue advancing President Obama’s agenda. If VP Biden decides not to run, I will be open to listening to all candidates who chose to run, including Hillary Clinton. I am just not ready for a Hillary Clinton coronation.

                • 223 jacquelineoboomer
                  February 8, 2013 at 9:52 pm

                  nathkatun – I love poetry, but had no familiarity with the Mari Evans poem you mentioned – so I ran off and found it – and am truly humbled if what I wrote reminded you in any way of that poem, which I totally enjoyed reading. I agree with what you wrote about not having a coronation (we’ll leave it at that), tucking support for VP Biden away in my pocket because he would carry on PBO’s agenda, and, of course, looking forward to seeing who else might run!

                  • 224 nathkatun7
                    February 8, 2013 at 11:32 pm

                    Hi Jacqueline O, I am glad you found Mari Evans’ poem. I remember (can’t exactly remember the date, but some time early 70s) sitting in the audience when she read that poem. It had such a powerful impact on me. I’ve been following your commentaries at TOD and I deeply appreciate your forthrightness on many issues.

                    • 225 jacquelineoboomer
                      February 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm

                      Thank you very much. Just reading this, but that made my day. And I love your story about hearing Mari Evans read her poem!

            • 226 57andfemale
              February 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm

              I’m responding really late to this. You make an important point: if Hillary truly cares about these issues she can be directly effective in many other ways than running for President.

              That will be the test of what she’s really made of and what she really cares about.

  52. February 8, 2013 at 2:51 pm

  53. 228 susanne
    February 8, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    good morning all!

    charles pierce has a few thoughts on the fate of the pipeline:

    What will happen if the president and Secretary Kerry put the kibosh on the pipeline is going to be the mother of all hissy fits. The pipeline is an article of faith on the Republican right, not because it will necessarily improve this country’s energy policy, but because refusing to build it would be a triumph for almost everyone the Republican right hates, and that hate is what propels conservative politics.

    Read more: Daily Politics Blog – Charles P. Pierce – Political Blogging – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/#ixzz2KL5rUUAN

  54. 229 dotster3
    February 8, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    2 new tweets—Reuters: “Brennan perpetuates Obama’s legacy of secrecy” and AP: Hillary Clinton tops Obama in popularity”.
    What is going on? It looks like a media gang-up again. Something smells.

    • 230 Linda
      February 8, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      The Rothchilds owns both of those news services…..and their money is behind all three TV networks….

      They control what we see pretty much

    • 232 hopefruit2
      February 8, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      It’s the corporate media’s attempt to undermine the President’s support pre-SOTU address. Every time the President is going to give a major speech, the corporate-owned media becomes terrified…really SKURRED that Americans will LISTEN to their President and LIKE what he says – which often goes AGAINST what the corporate media wants.

      So this is why we’re seeing a bunch of polls, bullshitty headlines about Hillary Clinton, etc. We need to let the media know we’re on to their BS, and we’re not falling for their crap. We will LISTEN to our President and SUPPORT him – even if the polls say his approval is 0%.

    • 233 Joy
      February 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm

      It sounds like stupidity to me. People talking crap when they shouldn’t be, while trying to rile up people. Media controls the U.S. It’s up to the smarter to recognize this. Hillary, as much as I like her will not win a presidential election in my opinion. I also feel its the same with Christie. Christies remarks are not Presidential. He acts and talks like a thug at times. If he thinks he will ever see the whitehouse he better think again, it’s laughable. Hillary won’t get the support she needs to win the presidency. She might come close but I don’t feel it is within her grasp. With all the Clinton money, it won’t buy it for her. On top of that, she will be 4 more years older. I certainly hope that dems are looking at someone who is still young, smart, and ready to take on the many tasks at hand as a President. I have my favourite in mind and hoping he will grow in the next 4 years.

      • 234 jackiegrumbacher
        February 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm

        Please share your favorite, Joy. I would put my money on Martin O’Malley as the sleeper candidate..

        • 235 Joy
          February 8, 2013 at 4:46 pm

          Martin is the one that I am thinking, like you say, the sleeper candidate Jackie! Hope he rises up over the next 4 years. :-)

      • 236 lisalovesobama
        February 8, 2013 at 4:23 pm

        Thank you!!! She’s basking in PBO’s shine. On her own, she’ll be just like she was in 2008! Also, she can’t win against a repuke. Everything people are saying now is hogwash. I almost want a match up between her and a repuke, just so I can laugh at the Clintonites and the PUMAS……but no. I don’t want her in the WH.

        • 237 Joy
          February 8, 2013 at 5:58 pm

          This is what scares me, that she can’t win against a republican. I surely don’t want to see 2016 given back to republicans and I fear that she could lose it for the dems. I hope she stays away from a presidency.

    • 239 lisalovesobama
      February 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm

      who cares?

  55. February 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Hey everyone in the path of Nemo – we’re having sympathy rain here in SoCali – it’s all we could muster, but thought you’d like to know we’re trying. XOXOX

    Stay safe, and warm!

    • 242 theo67
      February 8, 2013 at 6:06 pm

      I even have my little heater on at my desk, in solidarity with the East Coast!

    • 243 nathkatun7
      February 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      Here in SanDiego we had a hailstorm this morning and its been raining almost non-stop. We tried our best to share the misery with the East Coasters, but ours is nowhere near what the East Coasters are going through. First Sandy and now Nemo. I am trying to convince my daughter in NY to come back to So. Cal.

  56. February 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    • 245 lisalovesobama
      February 8, 2013 at 4:24 pm

      hahahhahhahahhahahahaha!!!! still causing disaster everywhere she goes I see. :roll:

    • 246 theo67
      February 8, 2013 at 6:07 pm

      Those balls move at a fairly high speed. It’s not funny at all as an incident (because someone was hurt), but it does reflect Condoleeza’s ability to harm Americans without even really trying that hard.

      • February 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm

        Not funny the woman got hit, she actually suffered concussion like symptoms. It was just a parlay w/ the weird GWB computer hacking story, that just made me happy that these people were not running the country anymore. Sidenote: It was also ironic considering she is one of the 3 women they accepted into Augusta National for the first time. Perhaps that didnt come through properly.

        • 248 theo67
          February 8, 2013 at 9:05 pm

          Thanks for clarifying. I just didn’t want to leave that out there, like we were dancing about Condi’s bad luck, despite the woman getting hurt. I’m with you – I do celebrate that the Condi’s & Company are far removed from any vestige of power.

          I turned on my TV to hear Ed Schultz talking in almost wistful terms with Howard Fineman (who Ed was taking to task for daring to suggest that Karl Rove was “done”), and they were exploring the possibility of Jeb Bush teaming up with Karl Rove for a 2016 run. No better indicator that the media types like Ed and Howard are far removed from the realities and horrors of the Bush Administration.

  57. 249 Pamela
    February 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Yo, Chipsticks, was looking through for any update on managing kitty cat intruders in your domain?! I do hope you are alright! :)

  58. 254 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Hilarious.

  59. 255 JER
    February 8, 2013 at 3:42 pm

  60. 257 hopefruit2
    February 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm

  61. 258 yardarm756
    February 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm

  62. 259 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Pres. Obama will speak at Leon Panetta’s goodbye ceremony. LIVE NOW.

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Defense-Dept-Honors-Outgoing-Secretary-Panetta/10737437914-1/

  63. February 8, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    In the same poll Marco Rubio gets high marks too, even though 57% ot those who responded know know very little about him. He’s going to give the GOP response to the President’s SOTU address……what a coincidence. I can see right through these clowns.

    • 264 hopefruit2
      February 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm

      Thanks for providing the inspiration for and substance of my tweet. :)

      • 265 COS
        February 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm

        The media is trying to “make a silk purse out of a [pig’s] ear”. They are trying to force Rubio down our throats. He is way overrated. He is not that smart and is so not in the same league with PBO.

        • 266 theo67
          February 8, 2013 at 6:10 pm

          Plus, he seems to have some very dubious dealings in his past, and he pals around with criminals. Plus, he wholeheartedly endorsed Romney. Judgement is in serious question all around.

  64. 267 57andfemale
    February 8, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    I do not condone hacking anyone’s emails, but that ‘artwork’ by George W. Bush is just creepy.

  65. 270 squarepeg
    February 8, 2013 at 3:59 pm

  66. 271 cookemom
    February 8, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    man hopes to set off civil war by trying to bomb Cal bank. NBC news report

  67. 272 Gazelle
    February 8, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    [Christie doesn’t know when to stop — and I’m not talking about food. Dood needed to put a break on it.]:

    Dr. Connie Mariano, the former White House doctor who drew the ire of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) for saying his obesity was not healthy — he called her a “hack” — actually got a phone call from the governor, KTVK-TV reports.

    Said Mariano: “It was essentially the tone of the press conference only louder. It was hard to get anything across.”

    Ironically, Mariano was a Christie supporter but isn’t likely to back him in 2016: “The way he acted lately I don’t think so. He wasn’t very nice to me. Politically if this is the way he handles stress… is this presidential? I’ll have to think about that. Is this a presidential way to behave? C’mon.”

    .

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/02/08/christie_phoned_doctor_he_called_a_hack.html

    • 273 Nena20409
      February 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      People should ask the media, if this Fluffy Christie’s behavior was done by pres Obama, or any Dem…..we would be hearing about abusive behavior, how he over-reached and went out of bounds and then got her number to call her at home to harass and intimidate her. Christie is in NJ, The doctor is in AZ. Since Christie can’t walk 200 yrds without being driven, I doubt seriously that Christie got her number without help. The saddest part is that after Christie chided and ridiculed the doctor on TV. No, no, his bullying was not enough. he had to go and call her at home to yell at her. Intimidate her. Invade her privacy and her zone of comfort. That is abusive behavior. Christie has no jurisdiction here. The media played out his indignation. How come the media is not giving this utterly bad abusive behavior by Christie as much as they made the doctor out to be a total monster? Hmm? No Dem would have lived it down. Christie is given this OK to be abusive and then praised for speaking his mind, and being authentic? Yet, pres Obama or another Dem would have been called arrogant, entitled, elitist, etc.

      Double, triple, even quadruple standard when R is after the last name.

    • 276 prettyfoot58
      February 8, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      Why is it ok for Chris Christie to bully people…

    • 277 Pamela
      February 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm

      Any further proof needed that she was absolutely right? I’m not a doctor and I can see he is not fit for office. So, duh. Back it off, guv.

    • 278 theo67
      February 8, 2013 at 6:28 pm

      Christie is a bully – he doesn’t know how to deal with people. He’s whining that his kids heard the blunt comments from this doctor, similar comments he made only a short time before when he said that his doctor warned him he would soon lose the lethal game he was playing with his weight. There is no doubt that the Presidency is stressful, takes a physical toll, and could overtax a strained heart. I have no problem with Christie’s weight being discussed in these practical, non-bullying, non-taunting ways. These are legitimate concerns.

      As for Christie complaining that he was called out by a doctor on potentially very serious consequences of his pursuing higher office with the existing strain on his heart – has he ever heard the things his own party say and do against the current POTUS and his family? Christie’s reaction to this doctor’s statement is the typical reaction of a bully – they can dish it out, but they can’t take it. They throw a tantrum, pout, cry for Mommy.

      Truth is – Christie has many, many reasons why he shouldn’t be President (in fact, he shouldn’t even be governor). His weight is the least of his problems.

  68. 279 susanne
    February 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    is that the tea party brigade? :)

  69. 280 Linda
    February 8, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Don’t forget that ” Hillary the Movie ” that was blocked by the FEC brought the court case that resulted in the Citizens United Decision.

  70. 281 hopefruit2
    February 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm

  71. 282 Gazelle
    February 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Those flees must be biting his ass? Rick Snyder is sixth repub to endorse Medicaid expansion.

    “A day before he delivers his budget message to the state Legislature, Gov. Rick Snyder gave his unconditional support for an expansion of Medicaid to include about 450,000 more uninsured, low-income Michiganders into the program.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/02/08/16900196-and-then-there-were-six

    Don’t trust him one iota.

  72. 283 swbluega
    February 8, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    President Obama is scheduled to be in Atlanta next Thursday. The White House provided no further details on the visit.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/obama-to-visit-atlanta-next-week/nWKMw/

    Any clues as to the focus of this trip?

  73. 287 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    NEWS.

  74. 289 utaustinliberal
    February 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    That was a beautiful and moving tribute by Pres. Obama to Sec. Def Leon Panetta.

    • 290 susanne
      February 8, 2013 at 4:58 pm

      yes– the whole event was fascinating, and deeply touching. did you see bravo smile when they were talking about him?

      • 291 HZ
        February 8, 2013 at 6:37 pm

        UT, it was a beautiful and very gracious tribute to another gracious spirit, Sec. Defense, Leon Panetta. I appreciate so much how Sec. Panetta showed respect to POB while working for him. I thought the ceremony was moving and POB looked rather handsome as well.

        Bravo was so respectful during the entire ceremony. Beautiful dog, indeed. Smart as well. Beautiful moments. Mrs. Panetta also looked so beautiful as well. I am happy for them to return to Cali. We must pray that the confirmation of Sen. Hagel will be soon. HZ

  75. February 8, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    A little reminder for the GOP and MSM:

    • 293 lisalovesobama
      February 8, 2013 at 4:46 pm

      Ha!! Go, jay!!!!!! :lol: love ‘im!!!! :lol:

    • February 8, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    • 295 Ladyhawke
      February 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      While Leading the Laziest House in History, John Boehner Tells Obama To Do His Job

      By: Jason Easley

      ———————————–

      John Boehner leads a House of Representatives that is one half of the most unproductive Congress in the history of the country. The nation might be able to get things done if the House was in session for more than 124 days this year, and House Republicans would stop passing bills that have no hope of surviving the Senate.

      Speaker Boehner and his fellow House Republicans are the equivalent of the lazy relative who is living on your couch and eating all of your food. Except, these moochers on our national couch are costing the taxpayers millions of dollars in salary and benefits each year.
      .
      .
      While Obama is trying to make immigration reform and gun control a reality, John Boehner is leading a body that recently tried to repeal Obamacare for the 34th time.

      ————————————————

      http://www.politicususa.com/leading-laziest-house-history-john-boehner-tells-obama-job.html

    • 296 Nena20409
      February 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      :coo: :) Way to go, Jay Carney :!:

  76. February 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    I’m glad Sam Stein gets it:

  77. February 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    #SaveUSPS

  78. 304 Gazelle
    February 8, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    [Hoo-boy!]:

    NEWINGTON >> A Middletown woman involved with a male mentoring program for local youth was arrested Monday evening after allegedly pulling out a gun at Chuck E. Cheese.

    /////

    Bourne is actively involved with There is Hope, a free male mentoring program that held the first of its monthly sessions in January at the KO Fitness Club in the Remington Rand building on Johnson Street. It is targeted for “at-risk” youth engaging in risky behavior that may land them at the state Department of Youth and Families.

    .
    Full story here: http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2013/02/06/news/doc511133ebb5da1821869636.txt?viewmode=fullstory

  79. 305 prettyfoot58
    February 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Sen Rand Paul will give thet T party’s response to the SOTU address…when did the TP become a 3rd party or can anyone give a response to the SOTU address…

  80. February 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    #Boehnerquester

    #TrustBarack

  81. February 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Wow, that ceremony was striking in both its formality and its warmth and charm from the speeches of PBO, Dempsey and Panetta. Beautiful send-off. I hope Panetta and his family enjoy the riches of the Bay Area and his walnut farm.

  82. 312 susanne
    February 8, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    pbo welcomes the year of the snake:

    ‘ “In Chinese tradition, the snake represents wisdom, and a thoughtful approach to tackling the challenges before us — principles that I hope will continue to guide us as we perfect our union and create a more just and equal future for every American.” ‘

    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281949-obama-welcomes-year-of-the-snake#ixzz2KLc7OtOu
    Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

  83. February 8, 2013 at 5:05 pm

  84. February 8, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    A newly discovered Carl Sandburg poem:

    A REVOLVER

    Here is a revolver.
    It has an amazing language all its own.
    It delivers unmistakable ultimatums.
    It is the last word.
    A simple, little human forefinger can tell a terrible story with it.
    Hunger, fear, revenge, robbery, hide behind it.
    It is the claw of the jungle made quick and powerful.
    It is the club of the savage turned to magnificent precision.
    It is more rapid than any judge or court of law.
    It is less subtle and treacherous than any one lawyer or ten.
    When it has spoken, the case can not be appealed to the supreme
    court, nor any mandamus nor any injunction nor any stay of ex-
    ecution come in and interfere with the original purpose.
    And nothing in human philosophy persists more strangely than the
    old belief that God is always on the side of those who have the
    most revolvers.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/08/a-revolver-recently-discovered-carl-sandburg-poem-addresses-gun-lovers/

  85. 317 hopefruit2
    February 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm

  86. 319 Ladyhawke
    February 8, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    NEWSFLASH FOR THE MEDIA: JOURNALISM’S FIRST OBLIGATION IS TO THE TRUTH

    The 2011 ransom note and the GOP’s sequester

    By Steve Benen

    ————————————–

    Republicans now want Americans to believe this was all Obama’s fault. Let’s consider the evidence:

    1. Republicans created the debt-ceiling crisis.

    2. Republicans wrote the ransom note and named their price.

    3. Republicans endorsed, accepted, and voted for this plan, saying they’d accept the consequences.

    and 4. Republicans now refuse to compromise (again) to deal with the mess they created.

    So we’re supposed to believe this is Obama’s fault? That’s only true if you ignore literally every detail and pretend reality has no meaning.

    Let’s make this plain: the sequester is a key part of the ransom the GOP settled for during the debt-ceiling crisis they created. It’s a little late to pass the buck now.

    That said, if Republicans don’t like the sequester, they have a terrific option available to them: they can cancel it and end this stupidity once and for all.

    ———————————————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/02/08/16901421-the-2011-ransom-note-and-the-gops-sequester?lite

    • February 8, 2013 at 5:45 pm

      Hi LH!

      #Boehnerquester

    • 321 theo67
      February 8, 2013 at 6:51 pm

      Listening to the media, one would think that the bi-partisan group of Congresspeople (6 from Senate, 6 from House – equally split between Dems and GOP) was President Obama’s idea. One would think he thought up the sequester, the timeline, the consequences. Google search brings up many, many reports about the goals and the failure of the Super Committee that was formed when the GOP decided they could no longer deal with President Obama, and they’d figure it out for themselves. It’s pretty pathetic, actually.

  87. February 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    #Boehnerquester

  88. 326 Ladyhawke
    February 8, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Fmr. Pres. Bill Clinton Speaks at House Dems. Retreat

    ———————————

    WASHINGTON, DC
    Friday, February 8, 2013

    Former President Bill Clinton speaks at the House Democratic Conference’s retreat, Friday. The President told the assembled Congressmen that gun legislation need not be “toxic” to Democrats.

    “We should not give up our ability,” he said, “to begin a conversation with people who are not as extreme as a lot of the candidates they voted for in the Republican Party that we could get to be for us. And I see this whole gun issue as an opportunity, not a toxic land mine. But it depends on how you do it.”

    The Democrats are meeting in Virginia this week to discuss their agenda for the coming year. President Obama spoke to the group on Thursday.

    ——————————————————–

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Fmr-Pres-Bill-Clinton-Speaks-at-House-Dems-Retreat/10737437966/

  89. 327 Ladyhawke
    February 8, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Bill Clinton: ‘We Need A Jobs Program’

    By Henry Decker

    ————————-

    While Clinton acknowledged that “we do have a long-term debt problem,” he stressed “that doesn’t mean that austerity now is the right response.” He also noted that Republicans only seem to push for harsh austerity cuts “when Democrats are president.”

    “We need a jobs program,” Clinton argued. “We need a strategy to promote innovation…If you do not have growth, you cannot fix this debt problem.”

    —————————————

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/bill-clinton-rallies-house-democrats-at-annual-retreat/

    • 328 theo67
      February 8, 2013 at 6:53 pm

      We have a jobs program. It’s called the “American Jobs Act”. It’s just been languishing in Congress – along with all proposals for infrastructure spending, investments in new industries, additional training programs, small business relief. And it was proposed by President Obama ages ago.

      • 329 nathkatun7
        February 8, 2013 at 9:47 pm

        Exactly, Theo! Why didn’t Clinton urge Democrats to support President Obama’s Jobs program instead of implying that there is no Jobs program or a strategy to promote innovation? This is what pisses me off about Bill Clinton. Everything he advocated, President Obama has already advocated. So why not urge Democrats to solidly get behind the President’s Agenda?

  90. February 8, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Normally I don’t read manifesto’s cuz most of it is usually crazy nonsense. This one from Dorner is quite revealing of what goes on at LAPD. Pretty much confirms what many say of the LAPD and cops in general. I’m not endorsing everything Dorner says but the link is below if you are interested. It is a very very very long read.

    http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php

    • February 8, 2013 at 6:21 pm

      Woo child! Reading further….they better catch this guy!

    • 333 desertflower
      February 8, 2013 at 6:25 pm

      I read it yesterday. I don’t condone what he’s doing, but his “manifesto” seems like he has some legitimate arguments to make. It’s only his side of the story, but I could relate to some of the complaints that he had and I felt his anger and pain about being wronged. I hope that someone that wants to dig into the truth of this and do some investigative reporting, gets on this. I have a feeling that all it not what it appears to be. LAPD should have to explain this. The man wants his name cleared…in the end, isn’t that all we really have?

      • 334 Bill R.
        February 8, 2013 at 6:34 pm

        When a person commits wanton murder, he immediately loses whatever justice he might have had on his side.

        • February 8, 2013 at 6:40 pm

          Have to agree with you, Bill. This is L.A.: stories about LAPD corruption are grist for the mill here. He had other avenues he could’ve pursued. Murdering people—especially that couple in Irvine whose only crime was that the woman was the daughter of one of the targets of his ire—is evil, pure and simple. He had legitimate grievances, at least in his mind; he has destroyed any chance of his side of the story being taken seriously.

        • 336 theo67
          February 8, 2013 at 6:55 pm

          I agree with you, Bill. Apparently, lots of postings are showing up supporting him now, because he’s “willing to die for what he believes in”. Well, if he was wiling to die, then why is he hiding and on the run? Seems like he’s just willing to kill for what he believes in. He’s wrong – no two ways to look at it. And if he had any hope of seeing justice for his grievances, he’s squandered it now.

      • February 8, 2013 at 6:43 pm

        I wish he hadn’t murdered two people though. Makes it very hard for anyone to look into these things w/o someone saying you are sympathizing with a murderer.

      • 338 jacquelineoboomer
        February 8, 2013 at 6:53 pm

        Well said, df.

    • February 8, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      Okay, this guy is insane. He thinks David Gergen is a political genius and modern scholar.


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