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Heads Up: President Obama speaking on gun violence

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5:0 EST: The President delivers remarks on common-sense measures to reduce gun violence, Denver Police Academy

White House live * CBS * CNN


231 Responses to “Heads Up: President Obama speaking on gun violence”


  1. April 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Okay, Mr. Prez, I’m ready to listen.

    • 2 vcprezofan2
      April 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm

      Hey Chips, did you notice I was able to pick and refuse my seat for this speech? :lol:

  2. 3 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    I did it! I did it!

  3. 5 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Oh boy, I have time to run around by myself and see who is in the house. That’s verrrry unusual.

  4. 6 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Going for #5! Is it possible?

  5. April 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Write your Congress critters TODAY and demand an up-or-down vote. NO FILIBUSTERS!

  6. 18 Linda
    April 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    My Goodness…..the video gave me the chills……

  7. 19 Lynn
    April 3, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Central New York in the house and ready! Congrats on first thru fifth, vc! Hello Judith and Ms. Chips. This is the closest I’ve ever been!

    Now waiting to see OUR President!

    • 20 vcprezofan2
      April 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      Which means you are really 4th, Lynn! Don’t count me bouncing off the walls like a child more than one time. :lol:

  8. 21 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 3, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Of course, a new thread just when I post…

    • 22 jackiegrumbacher
      April 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm

      This is chilling, Alycee. Thank you for the link. I hope states like Kansas have a rebirth someday. We can only pray that they wake up.

      • 23 carolyn
        April 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm

        Thank you for the link Alycee. I read the article and was devastated. I have heard some about what’s been going on in Kansas, but not to this extent. This article made me very sad. I went to high school in Hutchinson, and it was a superb school! Education at that time was second to none. Teachers were professional, standards were high, and educators and education were both respected.
        Shortly after I graduated, we moved to the east coast and I went to college in Massachusetts. I learned that my education in Kansas was second to none of high schools on the east coast……even the New Yorkers who bragged about the New York Regents exams.
        We have read the book “What’s the matter with Kansas” by Thomas Frank, and in it he explains how for 30 years they have voted against themselves. This is the end result of those votes. My heart hurts.
        I am so proud of this man for writing this article. I hope a few will begin go wake up. When I lived there (middle 50s) people bragged about the progressives!

      • 24 Alycee (@jazziz2)
        April 3, 2013 at 6:32 pm

        It is; and unfortunately, Kansas’ cousin, Pennsylvania is on life support. If folks don’t wake up, “One Term Tom” will completely gut the state of resources.

        • 25 carolyn
          April 3, 2013 at 6:54 pm

          I’m afraid Oklahoma is following close behind, but we’re not at that point yet. I have disseminated this article several places here, including a newspaper, hoping that this will warn some people in this state.
          We went to Kansas four years ago to pick up a dog and I was shocked by the degraded, dead look of the state. Very few thriving family farms, all corporate, factory farms like Cargill. All imported labor, population dying rapidly. The commenters on this article were agreeing with the article, 95%. One commenter called the state Brownbackistan…..

    • 26 mtmarilyn
      April 3, 2013 at 7:44 pm

      I was born and raised in KS. I have many family still there. It has been with great heartache I have watched what has happened. I don’t know how this is all going to work out.

  9. April 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm

  10. 28 Nena20409
    April 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    The Video and One Lone Candle. Truly a Picture :!: Worth a THOUSAND Words.

    Brilliant. Nicely Done.

    Congrats VC on Numero Uno

  11. April 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm

  12. 32 JER
    April 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    | Live Stream is Up | President Obama in Denver. Good Music playing: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/video/livevideo

  13. 33 GGAIL
    April 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Congrats vc!
    (gotta go back to work)

    • 34 vcprezofan2
      April 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm

      You’re almost done for today, right? I hope so anyway, GG. Nice to see you.

      • 35 GGAIL
        April 3, 2013 at 5:08 pm

        Yeah, it’s a little after 2pm. Not long now. Enjoy being up there vc- just talking to yourself for a minute -

        • 36 vcprezofan2
          April 3, 2013 at 5:10 pm

          Good! Do you drive yourself to work or will you have to wait on the bus to get home? BTW, I’m used to talking to myself ….and answering…sometimes out loud.

  14. 38 utaustinliberal
    April 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    C-SPAN is also airing the speech live.

    http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

  15. April 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Update on TN bill: As of 30 minutes ago, passed out of committee 10-8!! Totally sick! So ashamed! Feel sickened…….:(

  16. 46 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Okay, Mr. President is at the mike!

    • 47 vcprezofan2
      April 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm

      He has just completed his acknowledgement of the leaders of Denver who are in attendance.

  17. 48 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    What’s actually going on in TOD village? The place is so silent that I’m not sure who is here with me. Are you here? Yes, you. Are you here?

    • 49 cookemom
      April 3, 2013 at 5:33 pm

      quiet down, we’re trying to watch our guy…..just kidding. I’ve been watching you go from doing the happy dance for your first, to roaming the hallways peeping in the doorways of the TOD house, to becoming a little fearful that we’ve all moved on and left you.

      Nope, we’re here and you are not alone.

  18. 53 vcprezofan2
    April 3, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    :lol: Thanks! Nice to know you are keeping me company, CM. I’ll be quiet and listen….at least I’ll try.

  19. 56 cookemom
    April 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    So Mark Sanford tells CNn he was surprised when his fiance the Argentine Appalachian Trail Damsel, showed up at his victory speech. No wonder, his sons seemed not to know where to look.

    • 57 57andfemale
      April 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      Why do Republicans never have to show any shame for their actions, and yet if a Democrat doesn’t say, ‘gesundheit’ when someone sneezes, it’s the News of the Week and Darryl Issa starts an investigation.

      • 58 cookemom
        April 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm

        My problem is that they are making his issue one of infidelity rather than the bigger offense of leaving the state without so much as a ‘see ya later’. He didn’t even tell his next in line that he was leaving or where he was in case of an emergency. I could care less about his wandering the Appalachian Mountains in Argentina, that can be excused as a faulty GPS system. My issue is he’s not being held accountable for what he did to his state’s welfare in his absence. He should be made to speak to that, not the other stuff that really isn’t anybody’s business but his, his family, and the senorita.

        • 59 nathkatun7
          April 3, 2013 at 6:52 pm

          I agree with you 100%, CM! The #1 issue in opposing Mark Sanford should be his dereliction of duty as a governor. The least he could have done was to officially take a short leave of absence, leaving the Lt. Gov. in charge, for as many days as he wanted to be with his lover. It’s his irresponsibility as a governor that should disqualify him from holding public office. The issue of infidelity should only be brought up to show Mark Sanford’s hypocrisy; especially since he was one of the loudmouths calling for the impeachment of President Bill Clinton over Clinton’s supposed moral failings.

          • 60 daisydem
            April 3, 2013 at 9:02 pm

            I could not agree with something more: absolutely the fact that he WALKED OFF THE JOB (which by the way, for the lowest employee on the rung, is usually an offense for which you can be fired) without telling anyone that he was or where he was going so he could be reached in case of emergency! As you say, he had a Lt. Gov. someone whose duty it is to fill in and all he had to do was tell him to step in for a couple of days or weeks. He neglected his duty as Governor and that alone should keep him out of public office.

        • 62 57andfemale
          April 4, 2013 at 9:58 am

          I’m assuming all of this will be made major issues in the campaign. It would have been nice if Republicans had had any intellectual honesty and made these points during the primary.

    • April 3, 2013 at 5:42 pm

      Did you hear what he said? I was in the car listening to the radio of the speech he game and he pretty much said she was helpful but not as helpful as his first wife would have been….WTF? Either she is real young and dumb or he has something really going on in the bedroom.

      • April 3, 2013 at 5:45 pm

        She doesn’t look that young. Early 40s.

      • 65 cookemom
        April 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm

        She looks much younger. But hey, that’s on them. My problem is he’s being let off the hook by talking about infidelity and not how he left his state up for grabs. What if the Natl Guard was needed? What if there had been a weather related disaster? He gets a pass on that and how he misappropriated state’s money to make the trip.

        Who cares about his hungry man?

      • 67 jackiegrumbacher
        April 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm

        Or, JoJo, that may end up being a short “engagement.”

        • 68 0388jojothecat
          April 3, 2013 at 7:26 pm

          That would have done it for me……how embarrassing can that be. His “fiancé” needs to take a lesson from the ex-wife. Also, if he cheated with her on his ex-wife he’ll to the same to her with someone else….it never fails. Once a cheater always a cheater.

  20. 69 anniebella
    April 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    POTUS just finish giving another outstanding sensible speech.

  21. April 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    PBO is talking about gun violence and MSNBC is not showing his speech. Yet wasn’t it just yesterday that Chris Matthews was ranting about PBO not leading on this very issue?

    • 71 nathkatun7
      April 3, 2013 at 8:41 pm

      Chris Matthews and the rest of them are absolutely useless! I don’t they understand the meaning of leadership in a democracy.

  22. 72 Linda
    April 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    In case you had any doubt, it’s good to be the Queen.

    British taxpayers just gave the Queen of England a boost of 5 million pounds, or $7.56 million, in the amount of money available to her to carry out her duties, the Guardian reports.

    Meanwhile, the UK is considering freezing or even cutting its minimum wage at the same time, the Financial Times reports. In addition, the British government is embarking on a dramatic pullback of its famed welfare state, which includes cuts to subsidized housing, caps on welfare benefits and changes to the system so that benefits and tax credits no longer rise with inflation, according to a separate Guardian report.

    No words…

  23. 74 dotster3
    April 3, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I understand why—-so I don’t need an explanation—-President Obama is trying to relate to all sides on the gun issue—–but I still wish he didn’t have to say things like Michelle said if she lived on a farm in Iowa, she would want a gun—for protection. I grew up in Iowa and probably one of the safest places to exist in the country is on a farm in Iowa. And I know that Iowa farmers who own guns have them for hunting, not for protection purposes. Other than that, I think he did an excellent job trying to touch on all the various concerns related to the gun issue, the real and the absurd. He could have also mentioned ridiculous, fear-mongering Huckabee who I see told his FOX audience that Obama’s planning to snap up everyone’s guns and turn this country into a fascist state, feeding the paranoid and the mentally deranged. Should be law against that kind of dangerous s__t-stirring, imho.

    • 75 anniebella
      April 3, 2013 at 6:01 pm

      I found nothing wrong with him saying that. I have nothing against law abiding folks who want guns for protection or hunting. We have to be willing to understand, or want to understand one another. The point I came away from what he said is to get the “facts”, both sides get the facts. There are some out there who don’t want the facts, all this crazy crap fit what they want to believe about the government and this President. But maybe there are some sensible folks out there who will listen.

  24. 76 yardarm756
    April 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    More words of wisdom I received in my e-mail inbox
    ——————————————————————-
    A friend of mine opened his wife’s underwear drawer and picked up a silk paper- wrapped package:
    ‘This, – he said – isn’t any ordinary package.’
    He unwrapped the box and stared at both the silk paper and the box.
    ‘She got this the first time we went to New York , 8 or 9 years ago. She has never put it on , was saving it for a special occasion.
    Well, I guess this is it.
    He got near the bed and placed the gift box next to the other clothing he was taking to the funeral house, his wife had just died.
    He turned to me and said:
    ‘Never save something for a special occasion.
    Every day in your life is a special occasion’.
    I still think those words changed my life.
    Now I read more and clean less.
    I sit on the porch without worrying about anything.
    I spend more time with
    my family, and less at work.
    I understood that life should be a source of experience to be lived up to, not survived through.
    I no longer keep anything.
    I use crystal glasses every day…
    I’ll wear new clothes to go to the supermarket, if I feel like it.
    I don’t save my special
    perfume for special occasions, I use it whenever I want to.
    The words ‘Someday….’ and ‘ One Day…’ are fading away from my dictionary.
    ;
    If it’s worth seeing, listening or doing, I want to see, listen or do it now….
    I don’t know what my friend’s wife would have done if she knew she wouldn’t be there the next morning, this nobody can tell.
    I think she might have called her relatives and closest friends.
    She might call old friends to make peace over past quarrels.
    I’d like to think she would go out for Chinese, her favorite food.
    It’s these small things that I would regret not doing, if I knew my time had come.
    Each day, each hour, each minute, is special.
    Live for today, for tomorrow is promised to no-one.
    If you got this, it’s because someone cares for you and because, probably, there’s someone you care about.
    If you’re too busy to send this out to other people and you say to yourself that you will send it ‘One of these days’ , remember that ‘One day’ is far away… or might never come…..
    No matter if you’re superstitious or not, spend some time reading it. It holds useful messages for the soul.
    Don’t keep this message.

    • 77 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      April 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm

      How true; just found out today that a cousin suffered a stroke and cardiac event last week (he’s headed to rehab tomorrow) and a childhood friend passed on Monday. Life is short and unpredictable…

    • 79 Lynn
      April 4, 2013 at 5:01 am

      Thanks for sharing, yardarm, I’m a bit lat to the thread, but this resonates.

  25. April 3, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Me again. To share something positive from here. Five students from one of our elementary schools are on their way to DC to help MO plant the WH vegetable garden tomorrow. The elementary school they are from is on the east side of town, named in honor of one of, if not the leading AA teacher in our community. Sarah Moore Greene just passed away couple years ago. Was so successful, loved and popular in the entire community/city. This school has its own small garden and the kids are learning SO much besides just about healthy eating. The current principal and assistant principal are going, as well as our number one TV anchor. Robin will be interviewing MO tomorrow. This whole thing has been on the news all week ……. almost fever pitch and I’m sure tomorrow will be the crowning.

    Also, Arne Duncan spent the day at one of our high schools today. At least, the area is getting lots of positive and exciting news/attention from the administration.

  26. 83 symmetry11
    April 3, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Hey Chips, I have not been getting email notifications for new post. Is there something I need to do?

  27. April 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm

  28. April 3, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Oh good god, what’s going on with Shoq now?

  29. April 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm

  30. April 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Accountability for EVERYONE.

    Yes We Can

    • 100 nathkatun7
      April 3, 2013 at 7:16 pm

      Thanks, Bob, for your tireless campaign on this issue. I was pleased to see Congresswoman McCarthy pick it up and introduce legislation to that effect. As far as I am concerned, requiring liability insurance for makers/dealers (including private dealers) makes a great deal of common sense. As it stands today gun and munitions manufacturers, as well as all types of dealers, are reaping immense sums of money, without any liability, from the unlimited proliferation of guns; including guns that are massacring innocent people.

  31. 102 utaustinliberal
    April 3, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    This is a must see interview. Valerie Jarrett is fantastic. Her loyalty to the president is awe inspiring. Plus, there’s so much behind the scenes revelation.

  32. 103 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 3, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    Disappointed — Rev Al is doing a “Hillary 2016″ segment

    • 104 dotster3
      April 3, 2013 at 6:49 pm

      Can someone please explain to me why every NBC/MSNBC program is pushing Hillary, every hour, every day? It’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. I cannot figure it out. It’s like they all are getting bonuses for every Hillary promotion story.

  33. April 3, 2013 at 6:45 pm

  34. 110 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 3, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    No words…

  35. April 3, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Morning/afternoon/evening all – back in a while with a newsie round-up.

  36. 116 prettyfoot58
    April 3, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Tomorrow April 4 is the anniversary of the Assasination of Rev Dr Martin Lurther King Jr.

    I’ve been to the Mountaintop…

    News report of Dr Kings Death

    The King of Love….is Dead…/Nina Simone

  37. 122 Don
    April 3, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    President Obama put everything he had on the line by backing same-sex marriage. He didn’t do it ten plus years after he left office, he did it in his first term in office. He ended DADT and put DOMA on the path to extinction. Bill Clinton on the other hand took the coward’s way out and signed DADT into law because he was catching heat from the Republicans. Now Hillary all of a sudden has her come to Jesus moment and makes a video in support of same-sex marriage conveniently a couple of days after Bill writes an Op-ed denouncing DOMA. Now comes word that GLAAD will bestow its highest honor on Bill Clinton. GLAAD has every right to honor whomever they want to. But if they give Bill Clinton an award for “saying” things in support of same-sex marriage, well then President Obama deserves a statue for “doing” things about DADT and DOMA.

    • 123 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      April 3, 2013 at 7:56 pm

      Down the road, should GLAAD wish to bestow this award on PBO, I wish he would say “thanks, but no thanks…”
      Truth be told, half the s**t PBO is cleaning up was either enacted or enabled by Bill. However, PBO knew what he was signing on for, and so did I. In for a penny, in for a pound; I’m with my President all the way.

      • 124 Don
        April 3, 2013 at 8:01 pm

        It still hurts Alycee, it’s like people go out of their way just to try to disrespect this President.

      • 127 nathkatun7
        April 3, 2013 at 9:21 pm

        “Down the road, should GLAAD wish to bestow this award on PBO, I wish he would say “thanks, but no thanks…”

        Thanks Alycee for expressing so well the way I feel about this. President Obama did what he did because he believed it was the right thing to do and not because it was politically safe. It really doesn’t matter what GLAAD thinks or does. I don’t begrudge Bill Clinton for receiving the award. And as Don said, “GLAAD has every right to honor whomever they want to.” Thankfully, history will tell a different story as to which President really showed political courage in advancing the rights of gay people. President Obama, no matter how much people try to disrespect him, goes about his business of doing the right thing. In the end, honest people will honor and appreciate him while he is still president. And history will be his judge of what he did with the time he spent as President. May be if it’s lucky, GLAAD will merit some mention in the foot notes of history for giving President Clinton an award for advancing gay rights.

    • 128 theo67
      April 3, 2013 at 11:10 pm

      Yup. It’s sickening. And sad.

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  39. April 3, 2013 at 7:52 pm

  40. 132 Deb
    April 3, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Call GLAAD
    Mailing Addresses and Phone Numbers
    Los Angeles
    5455 Wilshire Blvd, #1500
    Los Angeles, CA 90036
    P: (323) 933-2240
    F: (323) 933-2241

    New York
    104 West 29th Street, 4th Floor
    New York, NY 10001
    P: (212) 629-3322
    F: (212) 629-3225

    • 133 Don
      April 3, 2013 at 7:58 pm

      I just sent off an email!

    • 135 nathkatun7
      April 3, 2013 at 9:32 pm

      Deb, I understand and appreciate what you are doing and the way you feel, but I refuse to give GLAAD any satisfaction that they are such a big deal. President Obama did what he did because it was the right thing to do and not because he expected an award from GLAAD. That’s why I will not waste any money, time and energy calling or faxing GLAAD. I don’t want them to honor President Obama just because Obama supporters pressured them. May be it’s me, but there are such inconsequential battles that are not worthy wasting time on.

  41. April 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm

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  44. April 3, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    This is far from scientific, but my gay boss and my gay fake boyfriend both literally said “What the fuck” when apprised of GLAAD’s decision.

    • April 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      Honestly, it’s just freakin’ BIZARRE.

      • 142 Lovepolitics2008
        April 3, 2013 at 11:09 pm

        Especially the timing of it. President Obama’s advocacy and actions for gay rights have received a lot of coverage in the last few months. I can’t help feeling that some Clinton friend lobbied GLAAD to get the award to Clinton. The campaign of the ClintonS, with an S, has begun.

        The vast majority of americans will agree that this is bizarre. I think this will backfire on the Clintons.

    • 143 theo67
      April 3, 2013 at 11:15 pm

      I always have to remind myself that many of the people with microphones don’t actually represent the people they claim to represent. I”m glad your experience on the ground is turning out to be different than the view we’re seeing from GLAAD or on the air. Let them celebrate their Clinton – now that most of the heavy lifting is done.

  45. April 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Please don’t even tell me we’re going to have to endure 3 freakin’ years of Clinton worship. OMG.

    • April 3, 2013 at 8:15 pm

      I think we are, meta, I think we are.

      • April 3, 2013 at 8:22 pm

        JHC. You’re going to need to sharpen your mixology for the entire crew.

        • April 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm

          • 148 Obama Grandmama
            April 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm

            I was enraged with Hillary’s tactics during the ’08 primary fight especially with her telling about running across the Tarmac with her daughter under fire (the lie). However, what really annoyed me the most was her involving her daughter in telling the lie too. That is one of the differences I saw between her and Obama, integrity.
            I thought I had gotten over those feelings with seeing Secretary of State Clinton do admirable work. I also liked that she now has actual credible job experience she can claim. I still dislike her hard core supporters that discredit Obama at the drop of a hat. The awarding of Bill Clinton while PBO clearly did more for LGBT than former Prez Clinton brings back some of those feelings I had during the ’08 primaries.

            • 149 theo67
              April 3, 2013 at 11:20 pm

              The media are trying to make President Obama invisible, so they can start the 2016 campaign right now. I could care less about 2016. And they certainly won’t succeed in making President Obama disappear – he’s the only reason I’m so interested in politics!

    • 150 amk for obama
      April 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm

      I thought Hillary was a bit wiser than falling for that ‘inevitability’ crap once again. There is no way the millennials vote for her in large numbers.

    • 153 Don
      April 3, 2013 at 8:29 pm

      You would think that the Clintons would have the common courtesy and let President Obama finish his second term before they start putting the band back together again.

      • 154 Vicki
        April 3, 2013 at 8:38 pm

        Maybe this is the Clinton revenge. If they think POTUS “stole” the presidency that was rightfully theirs, then perhaps they feel entitled to steal as much of the credit for PBO’s work as they can.
        And to have the next 31/2 years be all about them.

        Noone ever accused any Clinton of common courtesy. Out for themselves, 24/7.

        • April 3, 2013 at 8:44 pm

          If the PUMAs think they’re going to win respect and an election by dissing PBO, they are badly mistaken.

          • 156 nathkatun7
            April 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm

            Count me in as one of the people who are turned off by this obsession with Hillary Clinton, just three months in the President’s second term. I don’t remember people being obsessed about which Republican would succeed G.W. Bush in Jan-March of 2005.

      • April 3, 2013 at 8:38 pm

        That whole gang is a mess.

    • 158 Ladyhawke
      April 3, 2013 at 9:00 pm

      I hear ya meta. I had to turn off Rev Al tonight. I just could not stand it. So disappointing. And of course Tweety has to have yet another segment on the inevitability of Hillary Clinton. According to him, 2016 is hers to lose. The interrupting and spritzing that goes on while he talking about her is embarrassing. She is like catnip for the media. This constant Hillary worship and talk of the 2016 presidential election is starting to get on my one last nerve. And most importantly, it is insulting to President Obama. He just won reelection and all the media can talk about is Hillary Clinton. It’s just like the stupid bb missed hoops. Anything to try and diminish PBO. He’s busting his arse for this country and the media acts like he is sitting on his thumbs. It’s infuriating.

      By the way, yesterday Tweety had yet another meltdown. This time he was apoplectic because, according to him, President Obama has not done enough and has not acted quick enough on gun violence. Stephanie Cutter was on the panel and she could hardly get a word in edgewise. He kept interrupting her. He totally blames President Obama for the intransigence of the Republican Party and their marching in lock step with the NRA. Unbelievable.

      • 159 Obama Grandmama
        April 3, 2013 at 9:41 pm

        I totally ignore CM these days. He is totally inconsistent, almost to the point of having a mental inefficiency. Took me awhile to word that sentence carefully.

    • 160 Lovepolitics2008
      April 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm

      I’m afraid so. The Clintons always suck all the oxygen when they’re there. Not entirely their fault. When the media thinks something sells they all go for it. Remember when the media was talking EVERY DAY about Sarah Palin, even after the 2008 election? For months and months they kept covering her every single move. It took the Tucson tragedy for the media to finally shut up about Palin.

      The media thinks that talking about the Clintons gets them an audience. But if they talk too much about the Clintons too soon, people will get tired of it and it could be detrimental to an eventual candidacy of Hillary.

  46. April 3, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    The text of Dr. King’s speech. I have to admit I had never read it carefully all the way through. The comments are good. One makes the point that the “I’ve been to the mountain” part has tended to overwhelm the point he was making because it seemed to predict his death the next day. But as the comment points out, all the civil rights leaders knew they were putting their lives on the line EVERY day. Also the interpretation of the parable just went straight to my heart.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/04/03/what-will-happen-to-them/

    • 163 Dudette
      April 3, 2013 at 8:49 pm

      Me too. I listened to the whole thing last night and again this morning. The mountaintop section, while poignantly prophetic, just glances the surface of the power of his overriding message. What an amazing force for good he was.

      • April 3, 2013 at 9:03 pm

        Yes he was. The pictures and video at the top of the post bring his loss home all over again. And the picture of Walter Cronkite made me long for him to be back telling it like it really is without fear or favor again.

      • 165 nathkatun7
        April 3, 2013 at 9:52 pm

        Dudette, they’ve been doing that to Dr. King’s speeches. They did the same to his 1963 “I have A Dream” speech at the March On Washington. They (meaning the media) would never air Dr. King’s other powerful speeches such as the one he gave at the conclusion of the 1965 Selma-to-Montgomery March; or the 1967 speech at his father’s Church in Atlanta, entitled “Why I oppose the War.” It infuriates people like me who were around and listened to entirety of Dr. King’s speeches.

  47. 166 utaustinliberal
    April 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm

  48. 172 Dudette
    April 3, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Worth repeating…

  49. 174 Dudette
    April 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    So is this…

  50. April 3, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    That post I said I was about to post, oh, an hour ago? Gimme 10 more mins :oops:

    • 176 Dudette
      April 3, 2013 at 9:10 pm

      Tsk, tsk! This is so disappointing! What kind of talk is that for a Blog Tyrant?
      It should be: “Shut Up! You get the next post when you damn well get it!”

  51. 177 amk for obama
    April 3, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    • April 3, 2013 at 9:10 pm

      Actually he didn’t. Clinton wanted to lift the ban altogether but Sam Nunn the powerful Armed Services Chairman and the Military Brass said no. DADT was the compromise and at that time was considered a huge step forward.

      DOMA was the product of Bob Barr and Don Nickles. It was so popular with Congress that it garnered a veto proof majority in both Houses. Clinton was for it as well but even if he had opposed it he couldn’t stop it. The attitudes on same sex marriage were a lot different in 1996 than they are now.

      • 179 amk for obama
        April 3, 2013 at 9:13 pm

        In short, he folded. Yeah, that’s some ‘leadership’ worth an ‘award’.

        • April 3, 2013 at 9:24 pm

          In short no. He didn’t have the support he needed to lift the ban in Congress or elsewhere but he did stop the military from giving people less than honorable discharges because of their sexual orientation. That’s how the military rolled before DADT. As for DOMA he was all for it. This is what he told the Advocate in 1996: “I remain opposed to same-sex marriage. I believe marriage is an institution for the union of a man and a woman. This has been my long-standing position, and it is not being reviewed or reconsidered.”

          Does he desrve an award for it? You have to ask GLAAD about that. Certainly nowhere close to the one PBO deserves.

      • April 3, 2013 at 9:29 pm

        Please don’t pretty up history in Clinton’s favor. Veto-proof support for the bill did not beg him actually campaign on the DOMA ban on Southern Christian media outlets with pride. The circumstances did not beg him to advise Dem candidates to use ‘opposition to gay rights” as a badge of honor in their campaigns. He actively did that by himself. All this has been documented. Clinton was not simply caught in the cross-currents of history. He used homophobia to advance his political goals. Listen to lawrence O’donnell’s review of the actual history of the 1990s.

        • 188 amk for obama
          April 3, 2013 at 9:33 pm

          If he had actually vetoed that bill and let the ‘majority’ congress critters override his veto, I would have more respect for him.

        • April 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm

          Nobody is prettying up anything. If you look at my post I said Clinton was for DOMA. It was a slam dunk piece of legislation that many Democrats and Republicans used for their campaigns. Let’s not kid ourselves. The attitude about same sex marriage was a lot different in 1996.

          • 194 amk for obama
            April 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm

            You claimed “Actually he didn’t.” (make their lifes hell).

            Well, reality is he did.

            He was and still is an innate triangulator despite all the pablum about attitude at that time.

        • 197 nathkatun7
          April 3, 2013 at 10:02 pm

          Just as he used putting to death a mentally retarded person in order to win conservative backing for being their “law and order” kind of Democrat. Then there is the fact that Bill Clinton was the leader of the DLC, which billed itself as being anti-liberal agenda.

          • 198 amk for obama
            April 3, 2013 at 10:11 pm

            Not to forget repeal of glass-steagall, “welfare reforms”, crony capitalism … the cup runneth over.

            • 199 nathkatun7
              April 4, 2013 at 2:06 am

              Indeed! People also forget that Clinton constantly ordered the bombing of Iraq and his SoS had no regrets about the dying Iraqi children.

        • 200 Lovepolitics2008
          April 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm

          I hope other gay groups protest the GLAAD decision. Loudly. This decision is really bizarre as someone said upthread.

          I give Clinton props for what he did well, but yes Zizi let’s not forget what really happened. I’m pretty sure the gay community HASN’T forgotten. This award is really puzzling and it will be VERY controversial among the gay community. I won’t be surprised if many gay groups get vocal about this.

      • 201 theo67
        April 3, 2013 at 11:30 pm

        Actually – Lawrence O’Donnell did a segment on this a few weeks ago, and he mentioned two points about this:
        1. Bill Clinton had a huge lead at the time, so his re-election was in absolutely no danger.
        2. Bill Clinton’s advisor at the time was Dick Morris. The same guy who was just fired from FOX for getting everything wrong all the time.

        I refuse to cut Bill Clinton any slack on this. Many lives were damaged. And they didn’t have to be.

        • 202 nathkatun7
          April 4, 2013 at 2:14 am

          “I refuse to cut Bill Clinton any slack on this. Many lives were damaged. And they didn’t have to be.”

          I am with you Theo! And especially when the same people won’t cut President Obama any slack, despite the hostility he had to put up with from the monolithic Republicans, the holier than thou progressives, and their enablers –both on the right and the left — in the MSM.

          • 203 amk for obama
            April 4, 2013 at 2:24 am

            Not to forget the grief the gay community (witness choi’s antics) gave to PBO and dems. Fuck gladd.

            • 204 nathkatun7
              April 4, 2013 at 5:07 am

              Yes indeed, AMK! President Obama has courageously stood up for the rights of gay people, many of whom have constantly demonized him. He did that despite the fact that he may have ended up alienating religious people in the AA community who supported him. I am proud of President Obama for doing what was right despite the political risks involved. I am also thorough with white privileged gay activists who have been as relentless as the tea baggers in demonizing and disrespecting President Obama. Whether GLAAD people like it or not, history will still record that it was President Bill Clinton who signed into law both DADT and DOMA. And, history will also record that it was President Obama who signed into law the REPEAL of DADT, challenged the constitutionality of DOMA, and has issued a series of Executive Orders aimed at advancing the rights of gay American citizens. Irrespective of which President receives the GLAAD Awards, the historical record, about which President advanced the rights and interests of gay Americans, cannot be refuted.

  52. 205 amk for obama
    April 3, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    • 206 Nena20409
      April 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm

      His wife’s dad, who was a medical doctor had died and left Millions for his wife. I had asked that question in 2012 and did a little research and found out that the wife’s dad came here and later became very wealthy. When he passed, he left his Millions for his daughter.

  53. 207 Dudette
    April 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Strange that this song would pop in my head today…

  54. 209 amk for obama
    April 3, 2013 at 9:15 pm

  55. 210 kasai
    April 3, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Sick of these people…I just called Glaad….and let them hear a piece of my mind….
    What a joke this is…Wow!!!

    https://twitter.com/Kahsai/status/319619604697714690

  56. 213 Nena20409
    April 3, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    The right want a Zombie like…..uneducated Citizens that they can control and manipulate.

    It reminds me of the Pink Floyd off the Wall……

    Another Brick In the Wall;

  57. 216 Dudette
    April 3, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Okay, I need to brush the mad off… here’s some off-topic sweetness:

    http://social.entertainment.msn.com/blogs/blog–tom-hanks-gets-teary-eyed-over-late-pal-nora-ephron?ocid=ansent11

    Love Nora (RIP) … Love Tom!

  58. April 3, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Looks like we could use a new thread, so I’ll just post this now (given my stellar record of posting at the tail-end of threads):

    • 219 Nena20409
      April 3, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      The DC beltway Narrative, They decide, parrot and are convinced that is how it is. Heck, they were all foaming in their collective mouths that Romney was going to win……. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • 220 anniebella
      April 3, 2013 at 9:39 pm

      Mr. Kurtz,What does that say about the media? What we already know,the media that Kurtz is part of isn’t worth shit.

    • 221 nathkatun7
      April 3, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      Great tweet, Arapaho! It seems to me that the media people are no longer interested in informing the people. What’s important to them is how well they impress one another so that they will be invited as pundits on all the numerous t.v. shows, or may be even get a show of their own. Some of us who are older remember the days when reporters just reported the news. Now and then, Veteran reporters, with immense knowledge of history and politics, like Eric Sevareid, John Chancellor and David Brinkley, made editorial commentaries on burning issues. Nowadays, every two-bit reporters and other entertainers, with limited knowledge of history and politics, are given megaphones to spread bs.

  59. 222 kathryn kivett
    April 3, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    As I have told y’all before, I am 70 yrs old and white. I have lived in NC all my life, except a brief stint in Va. I have to say, for the first time in my life I am very ashamed to say I am from NC. For the first time in my life, I am afraid to live in NC. If you think Virginia Foxx is bat ca ca crazy, you should check out what is running our State government, including our Governor who is rubber stamping all their insane “new laws” that they are trying to get passed and probably will since Republicans control everything in Raleigh. Starting with laws prohibiting women from showing their nipples in public, to requiring voter id and making early voting shorter and not on Sundays, not requiring charter school teachers to pass criminal background checks or be certified ,trying to close some of the University of NC campuses, to establishing a State RELIGION so that the state doesn’t have to obey the US CONSTITUTION , restarting capital punishment which has been on hold for 6 yrs and rejecting medicare provisions of Obamacare…….with a whole bunch of other dip ca ca laws in between…All this since January…..All the while, NC has one of the highest unemployment #’s in the country and one of the lowest public school funding……WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE COME FROM?….they are worse than Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Virginia Foxx rolled into one. I realize I must have lived a sheltered life and must be the most naive person who posts here but DAMN, I didn’t even know people like this existed in NC.

    • 223 Nena20409
      April 3, 2013 at 9:33 pm

      The good Lord Never gives Us more than We can handle.

      It is the Darkest before dawn. So these people are fighting to Hold On to their yesteryears. But Time is not waiting for them. It is passing them. And as they look at POTUS, that is the Obvious in ‘your face’ reminder. These people will soon see that most of Us have had it. Fight We must and we must keep using the Truth and We must out organize them. It’s been a long time coming and Victory is for those who want to move FORWARD! Change “Barack H. Obama” has Come to America and We are NOT going back. And these Haters Know it. That is why they are fighting so hard.

      Defeat will be handed them on a Silver Platter.

      • 224 kathryn kivett
        April 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm

        are you telling me I really might win the lottery and can move?….In lieu of that, unfortunately 2010 allowed enough of them to get elected to gerrymander the districts so that in all likelihodd they are staying put. Yes, NC has enough registered voters, Dems , Independents, and yes even some Republican who must be aghast, that COULD get them out if EVERY single voter voted, but unfortunately that happened in 2008 and almost happened in 2012 b/c OF Barack Obama. Unless every voter is touched personally by their idiocy, chances of that happening again is remote……..Oh, I also forgot another biggy….it seems that they are introducing a bill to take away the $2,500 child deduction from parents if their college age child votes at college instead of their home district,,,,and that just might touch some Republicans personally.

        • 225 Nena20409
          April 3, 2013 at 10:34 pm

          Sen Obama won NC in 2008 and almost again in 2012. Dems need to keep at the 50 state strategy. That is how Change continues to happen.

    • 226 anniebella
      April 3, 2013 at 9:35 pm

      I agree with everything you said about North Carolina, my home state.

    • 227 jackiegrumbacher
      April 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      Kathryn, there are people like you all over the state and probably even in your own area. They are frightened, amazed and utterly dismayed about what’s happening in DC. Please contact the Democratic Committee in your county and try to get the names of fellow Democrats in your area. If you contact them and arrange a coffee in your home or a coffee shop, you” ll feel less alone in your frustration. A small group of people working together can start to make a big difference. Even in NC, elections are going to come up in 2014 and the more organized and united you and your fellow Dems are, the better it will be for the state.

  60. April 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm

  61. April 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Schadenfreud for Nena20409 and all others so grateful that R-money truly was #NoTermMitt.

    “Five months after the presidential election, a bevy of Mitt Romney’s former staffers find themselves working against each other. They’ve splintered across three Republican Senate campaigns …”

    And remember, just before the horrific Newtown massacre, MSM was falling all over themselves to promote the failed Senate candidate, Scott Brown?

    I think the technical term is BWAAAAAAAAWAAAH. (not sure of the spelling, though) :)

  62. 231 Indie Liberal
    April 4, 2013 at 1:13 am

    Great website! (not a troll lol!, but same person, just new name..was “JA” above) :)


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