CBS, 60 Minutes, The Newtown Families
Part 1 * Part 2
Thank you, Chips!!!
Dear @sandyhook Admire your courage. Please consider a requirement for every gun/ammo maker, seller & user to have liability insurance. TY— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) April 08, 2013
As all of you know, the multifaceted implications of requiring all gun and ammo makers, sellers & users to have liability insurance would have major impact on everything from mental health exams, to training and licensing requirements, and market enforced limitations on types of guns and ammo in circulation.
Bring an industry that makes money because it understands risk and how to mitigate it to a leading role in altering the gun culture in America and that culture will definitely change – not in a week, but over a period of a few years, you will witness a dramatic decrease in gun violence. The precedents, from autos to tobacco and many other products (that don’t exist to enable and facilitate killing), are abundant.
Yes We Can
Thank you so much Bob for your tireless and relentless work on this important issue. Watching the Newtown parents broke my heart. Shame on us if we fail to do something to prevent future New towns and the heartbreak of parents losing their precious children through senseless gun violence. In spite of what the NRA and other gun obsessed people say, the 2nd Amendment was never intended to give blanket license for every one to own guns without any regulation. Even in the old “wild west” many towns repeatedly enacted laws that regulated guns.
“Even in the old “wild west” many towns repeatedly enacted laws that regulated guns.” They certainly did, nath, because they were striving for a stable society.
Thank you for your kind and strong support!
Yes We Can
You are most welcome Bob! I am the one who should be thanking you for the magnificent work you are doing on twitter representing many of of us who are still technologically challenged. I often bring up the West because there is this myth about gun ownership in the so called “wild West.” In order to bring about law and order, many towns in the west enacted gun laws aimed at keeping law and order and protecting people with no guns. This notion that individuals (and eventually criminals) should be allowed to own powerful guns with high capacity magazines that even law enforcements don’t have is a recipe, not for freedom, but for social disaster.
Come on , America, tell your Congressional reps this time MUST be different. Break the stranglehold of the NRA!
Some talking head was interviewed on the CBS all-news radio station in Los Angeles this week agreed with the anchor that the NRA was a lobbying group, but said that the loudest voices to Congressional offices were from “gun rights.”
Those who live in red districts need to contact your Congressman/woman and/or Senator let them know that #TheyDeserveAVote.
Filibuster equals cowardice.
Make Chips’ “powerful” tweet viral once again.
"I began hunting in junior high… I am 58 yrs old now. In my lifetime, I have not fired 154 rounds." #DemandAction http://t.co/zFl7pEPQ50— TheObamaDiary.com (@TheObamaDiary) March 30, 2013
I sent this to an active progressive in my area today, and she hadn’t see it before. So tweeting, re-tweeting is still a good idea.
Sorry, mean to say that I didn’t catch the name of the person being interviewed, but he spoke as if it were common wisdom.
Yes indeed, Judith! We cannot look in the eyes of those parents (and all the other parents and family members who have lost loved as a result of senseless violence) and continue to allow our representatives to be captives of the NRA. We must make sure that any member of Congress who champions the interests of the NRA over the safety interests of the American people loses his/her seat in 2014. We don’t need the NRA and the deranged gun totting enthusiasts to defend American freedom. We already have the all powerful U.S military, which we pay for with hundreds of billion dollars, dedicated to defend our freedom.
What a hard story to hear. How could it not move anyone to act on behalf of those kids.
Outstanding! Suggest we each send the link to our congresscritters, just in case they missed it…
Thank you for your suggestion Alycee! Thankfully my two U.S. Senators and my Representative in the House are all on board. I think I will send the link to the the neighboring GOP Reps.
West Coast … will wait till it comes on…
Gail, have plenty of facial tissues and water handy … it’s really crushing …
GGail and Bobfr, I am waiting on the West Coast as well to watch. I just got some relief on the sinus headaches, and have been on phone with Dell about my new computer. More stress and headache, but will Not give up.
This is so very close to our hearts, and for me it is so personal for several reasons that I will not cause any more tears, but I have my box of tissues all ready, Bobfr. This is so hard, but we must be listen and move with all families for All of our sakes. This can happen to any one of us and our families and friends.
I have a very difficult time with Congress on this, so I will work my behind off to do any good thing to help get a decent bill on this issue. It hurts so much. I am already crying Bobfr.
Thanks Chips for putting this together so we all can interact, and I pray with all of my being that we will all put our heads together to help POB and his Administration get the support they will need from us. Lord, please have mercy on us, but please give us wisdom to do the right thing and something that will be lasting and powerful before another precious life is gone from us. I need to go and get ready to watch. My heart has been so heavy since all of this awfulness, so please say a prayer for all of us, my TOD Family.HZ
” This is so hard, but we must be listen and move with all families for All of our sakes. This can happen to any one of us and our families and friends.”
Very true, HZ.
We are in this Together!
Product liability for guns. How exactly is it hard to formulate and enforce ? #SaneGunPolicy.— (@amk4obama) April 08, 2013
Dear @Messina2012 Break the #Teabagger 'fever' & stranglehold of the #NRA – Demand Mandatory Liability Insurance for all gun sellers & users— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) April 08, 2013
Market forces ….
If you can not support common sense measures, you have no heart. If you can not put yourself in those parents shoes and just imagine what it must have been like for them to walk in that back room and see their babies lying there blown to pieces, you have no heart. You are worst than a cold blooded snake.
Yes, anniebella, yes.
Agreed. I watched it when it came on last night and their pain was heartbreaking but I also marveled at their courage, grit, and determination. Congress should be shamed for kowtowing to the NRA who have blood on their hands every single day.
Those who believe in prayer, please pray.
I do, and I will.
I do and I will as well anniebella and JB.
In my prayer and meditation times, I will pray for:
Wisdom to be granted to POB and VPBiden and their team as they work with Congress to get a vote.
Stoney hearts of our Congress will be turned into a ‘spongelike vessel’ that will be able to receive and soak up the pain, the hurt spaces in our fellow citizens in Newtown, Chicago, L.A., Colorado, VA. and all fifty states who are hoping and praying, Lord, please do not let it be me/us the next time.
The still, soft, and loud crying voices of our precious children at SandyHook that early morning crying out for help.
Give peace and healing to our first responders who came upon that scene that morning.
Continued wisdom to the governor of CT., and state lawmakers all over this nation to come together for the good and decent cores of our lives and not the greed and power that stand in the way of their decisions in making these common-sense laws for our nation.
Let us keep those 26 names in a space in our hearts to tell them daily that we are going to do whatever we can to make a difference to do the right thing for each of them now that we have this human touch to touch those precious faces.
Pray for grace and strength for each parent, grandparent, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, teachers, principals, and school staffs all over this country to have a gentle one who is praying or saying a word of sweet goodness to be in their space as they face their students who are still looking for their help through their little precious eyes.
We are All In This Together. Pray for POB’s trip tomorrow.
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Cries of helplessness in front of an unstable monster of a being who was taken over by the likes of a spirit that would gun down little precious children and his own mother. Just ask them to be overtaken with the thought that this could happen again, and it just might be someone in their community. There is not space that is sacred anymore to any of us when we do not take a stand and try our best to make more ‘goodness of our spaces’ on this earth for all of our children.
I feel like this is a battle worth fighting, and we can not give up, and I always believe that we who stand on the side of right will win, it might not be tomorrow, or the next day, or year, but if we keep fighting, right will defeat wrong.
I believe that also, anniebella. Some of us may not see it all unfold, but those who will come after us certainly will taste the sweet juices of our tears and hard work on this issue, for sure. I have to believe that with you, anniebella.HZ
In response to Jeff …
@JeffersonObama Fortunately the hamster went belly up, and, may that fate soon befall other fauxprogs/firebaggers/libscamers. #FORWARD— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) April 08, 2013
We will not allow these scumbaggers to do to America what they did in 2010 – not in 2014, not ever again.
Bravo, Bob. We are a different America than we were in 2010. Too many people became complacent then and now we can see all too clearly the suffering that brought. It cannot happen again.
Agree, Jackie. 100%.
And, very importantly, Mr Messina and the #OFA team are laser focused on all that we can achieve during the next four years – that is very different than what it was in 2009/2010.
Bobfr, (((((( Thank you for all of your brilliant tweets))))))HZ
Thank you dear friend!!!
I caught a snippet on……..cr*p I don’t know, wife had the telly on and I walked through. A snippet of a small time gun dealer or manufacturer LAMENTING the new CT gun law and saying (paraphrasing): This will be very hard for my business and won’t make anyone safer.” 1) Fella, nothing personal but FIND SOMETHING ELSE to do that’s not part of the American murder and suicide enablement industry, and 2) WRONG. PLUS what’s your idea, do nothing? Special Forces training for teachers? One of the VERY MOST AWESOME special forces BADASS, book writin’ legends just got MURDERED and he was……wait for it…………yep: ARMNED.
I haven’t seen, will watch in another 15 minutes or so.
What really got me this week was seeing the Sandy Hook father at the Easter Egg roll. How crushing it must have been for him to be amidst all those happy carefree children, when the love of his life was senselessly slaughtered.
That was heartbreaking seeing him there. Not just because of his loss, but because you know that he was invited personally by President Obama and Mrs. Obama. And you know how hard it was for him to accept, but he knew he must, to keep the light shining on all of their losses at Sandy Hook – all of those little faces we should never forget.
Every time I see that man I tear up. He is in such enormous pain and he’s trying to go on with his life but you can see and hear that it’s not going well. I can only continue to hold out hope for his healing some day.
Meta, you are so right, in my opinion. I feel it deep within my being. When I saw him hugging our First Lady, I could see and feel the love, the warmth of her arms still trying to give him and all the parents as much love and part of her own strength.
I thought to myself when I saw him; he is remembering his precious son by his presence amongst all of those little children running around in all of that celebration. And he must have thought his little Jesse presence was with him. He took his little precious son to the WhiteHouse anyway to celebrate with him for this lovely fun filled day. Jesse’s dad’s space was filled with happy, joyful, and fun moments for Jesse.
Honoring his Jesse in another beautiful way. Let the healing continue to flow dear Almighty because we do not understand it all. Be gracious to all of us to continue to care for and carry on for Jesse and his fellow classmates. ((((((( We Love Them All By The Work We Will Do With POB and Congress)))))))HZ
Thank you so much, HZ. Love you.
Meta, I know exactly how you feel! I teared up big time tonight! Losing a child is the most painful experience any parent can go through. Of course loosing a child unexpectedly, through senseless violence, is probably a million times more devastating to a parent. I think enacting sensible gun legislation, in memory of his child and all the other children lost, may begin his healing and the healing of the other parents. The worst thing we as a nation can do is to do nothing. If we do nothing we will be sending a message to him and to all the other parents that their children do not matter. We will be telling them that the NRA, and the profit driven gun manufactures it represent, are more important than their precious children. If we fail to honor the memory of these children and all other innocent children, then there is no telling how long his and the other parents’ healing will take.
Thank you, nathkatun.
Thanks meta for that tweet which goes to heart of what you and I, and many others, felt after watching the pain and anguish of the Newtown parents! I really need to learn how to twit!
” Special Forces training for teachers? One of the VERY MOST AWESOME special forces BADASS, book writin’ legends just got MURDERED and he was……wait for it…………yep: ARMNED.”
Yep. Armed to the hilt …. and DEAD.
……………………’ARMED’ reads a little better without the ‘n’ in it, Bobfr. :):)
Just wanted to quote you, exactly
…..few beers here….and I’m commenting…..odd. Anyway, thanks for the follow-up.
Glad you are enjoying your evening
Evening Chips, TOD…. Congrat AMK, being 15 hours ahead in time zones finally paid off. #1
Gabby Giffords: Join the fight for safer U.S. soa.li/CtQe9sC We must make pols hear our nation's cry! Pass.. http://t.co/VE56qyMTfy— The lovely Plains (@DaRiverZkind) April 07, 2013
May we continue to support our beautiful Gabby Giffords and her strong and supportive hubby, Capt. Mark Kelly.HZ
Bringing over from the end of the previous thread.
Secretary of State and Treasury are in Europe this week (The Economist considers Turkey part of Europe):
In Europe, Lew Will Press for More Growth, Less Austerity nyti.ms/ZsnXmN— The Caucus (@thecaucus) April 07, 2013
Kerry Moves to Help Turkey and Israel to Restore Ties nyti.ms/10GLyvF— The Caucus (@thecaucus) April 07, 2013
We watched the entire Newtown presentation on 60 minutes. I was in tears all the way through. I so admire those people, putting themselves on the line for this cause. They are going to D.C. tomorrow to confront congresscritters. If those congress people have any heart AT ALL, they will do something definite about this problem. One lady said they are just now at the point where they can think of action. They said they will NOT let this die. LaPierre is counting on this dying out. These people and we are not going to let it die.
So glad Connecticut did what needed to be done, and other states have too. We need the Federal action because of interstate sales, etc, and to cover bare spots in state laws.
Just wrote my three Congresional reps. They are diehard Republicans in a red state, but they need to know that not everybody loves guns. One of them is always talking about what a good Christian he is. I told him as a Christian he should vote for gun control measures. I don’t know how any of these people can turn a deaf ear or a cold heart to the parents I heard on 60 minutes.
carolyn, I worry about someone who brags about what a good christian they are. But if he is a good christian then he should at least listen to what you have to say.
Chips, thanks much for the shorter vid-clip which I could add to my tweets. (I still haven’t had the oomph (or time) to try and figure out how to do it for myself at the link you gave me. One of these days…)
We have to keep bombarding our members of Congress, urging them to pass common sense gun legislation. We can’t continue to keep getting distracted by “good looking” nonsense stories and spend so much time and effort tweeting and discussing those kind of trumped up nothing stories. Everyone has to stay focused and persistent. If it’s true that the gun nuts are winning the contact war, we are woefully failing in our duty here to all the victims and families affected by gun violence. Priorities please.
President Obama is doing what he can with his appearances on this most important issue—–we need to help him….
Tomorrow in Hartford—-
You know how much I agree with you ….
Everytime a #FauxProg or #NEWSTAINER tries to distract with yet another attack on #PBO, Remember youtube.com/watch?feature=… & ENGAGE. cc @vj44— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) April 08, 2013
And I so appreciate your persistence on this subject. You have been fantastic. Your repeated message on liability insurance is starting to be heard by some key figures. Thanks so much for all the time and effort you have devoted to this most important issue.
If you don’t mind, dotster I would like to second your comment appreciating our tireless twitter warrior, Bobfr! He is truly magnificent! His message about liability insurance is so common sense that I don’t see how any one could be against it. If doctors like him are forced to carry liability insurance, though their business is all about healing, then why not gun and munition manufacturers, gun owners and gun sellers, whose products are all about killing? By the way, you too deserve praise for your persistent work on this issue.
That is such a fine comment, nath. So appreciate your support and also the reality you so clearly enunciate. Those of us who are all about caring for the living do find it beyond ironic and exceptionally tragic that those who are all about killing are exempted from any responsibility. Madison would not be pleased.
“Madison would not be pleased.”
That’s so true Bob! I don’t think the carnage of gun violence, which is cutting short the lives of too many innocent people, but especially innocent little children (our posterity), is what the founders, like James Madison, had in mind. I say that because the founders clearly expressed their hopes for their new country in the Preamble of the U.S. Constitution, which says:
“We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense (not individual defense), promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
How in the world can “WE THE PEOPLE” (notice the founders didn’t say I, the Individual) go about establishing “justice” and insuring “domestic tranquility” if we allow people to use guns with impunity to take way the lives of innocent people? How can we “secure the blessings of liberty” to “our posterity” when we would not protect our children from deranged gun men carrying weapons of war? Why did founders put emphasis on “common defense,” and not on the right of individuals, to defend freedom? How can we promote the general welfare of “WE THE PEOPLE” if we continue to allow people with guns and their lobbies to terrorize us?
I am actually going to invest some time in studying the genesis and rationale for the 2nd Amendment. I especially want to know why the drafters of the Amendment premised “the right of people to keep and bear arms,” on the necessity of “A well regulated militia.” I may be wrong, but I am just not persuaded that the 2nd Amendment is all about unlimited and unregulated right of individuals to own all sorts of weapons; including weapons of war.
I just want you to know, Bob, that your persistence, your fearlessness and your reasonableness, and ,above all, your humanity, has been an inspiration to me.
The gun right’s advocates and the Supreme Court ignore the historical context in which the Second Amendment was derived. America was a new nation fighting for independence. There was no standing Army, so citizens (men) were implored to arm and the president had the authority to call out militias, “whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe.”
“whenever the laws of the United States shall be opposed or the execution thereof obstructed”….to execute the laws of Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions,”
The Supreme Court turned the law on its head, obviously reflecting Scalia’s personal interpretation and beliefs. Not to promote my site, but I write about it. You may find some of the links useful.
my brother changed the channel which made me mad. He said he didn’t want to get depressed.
By the way, it’s not true that the gun nuts are winning any war. If you get that impression, you’re being misled by the MSM which wants people to throw up their hands in frustration and abandon the project. Sure the NRA is pouring tons of lobbying $$$ in congress and trying to distract, but the process is unfolding, and the WH, the people, etc are not giving up.
I agree with you, hopefruit2! The fact that several states, including NY, CO, MD, and CT have passed strict gun regulation laws is evidence that the NRA and gun nuts are not winning. If we stay vigilant, and don’t allow the media to distract us, we can defeat the NRA. All the current members of Congress, who are up for re-election in 2014, but who chose to do the bidding of the NRA must be targeted for defeat.
Great points hf and nath. Tweeted.
I agree, Dotster. At the same time we probably should also give an elbow to the Repubs who are representing ‘Obama’ states. Let them feel a bit of the pressure too, because every vote is needed. I’ve addressed the same video clip to each of them. Here are a few examples. If you want one for an O-state Rep close to you , you can check my TL.
Can we count on you .@robportman to vote for common sense gun controls to protect more of our children? youtube.com/watch?feature=… …— Vick C. (@sonamie) April 08, 2013
.@senatorcollins: Can you hear the cries of hurting parents and do nothing? Vote for common sense gun controls. youtube.com/watch?feature=…— Vick C. (@sonamie) April 08, 2013
What do YOU know in your heart, @MarcoRubio? It's time for a common sense gun plan. youtube.com/watch?feature=…— Vick C. (@sonamie) April 08, 2013
Super great—-thanks. I like your tweets—will borrow your excellent questions in contacts with more Repubs in blue states.
YW, D, and it isn’t borrowing to use any of my tweets as that’s my way of participating. As discussed here previously we shouldn’t overlook any avenue even if we think we know Repubs won’t vote common sense. Who knows what will be the straw the causes any one of them to ‘break’?
Thank you so much, VC for these great tweets. I applaud you and others who are going on the offensive! Senators and members of Congress in the states and congressional districts that President Obama won must be our number one target. We also need to see this struggle to enact sensible gun laws as a long term struggle. This means that it should be our #1 priority issue not just to day, but also in the 2014 and 2016 elections; and in the election years after that.
Excellent tweets, vc! Everyone needs to see this clip.
TY, AG. I do believe it’s up to us to reach out with whatever ‘good’ info we have as much as we are able, because regular media, demonstrably, really doesn’t care. Enjoy your Monday, even as you share info!
I appreciate being included, Nath. We really do need to stay united and thus extend our outreach. Have a great Monday!
I am beginning to believe that Maryland has become the most progressive state in the country. All of our Senators and Congresscritters are in support of common sense gun laws. I’ll be calling Blue State Repubs and the Republican leadership tomorrow.
In honor of these devastated families we should consider tomorrow Call to Action Day.
That 60 segment was heart wrenching!!!!!!!!!!
Well done Donna! MD is indeed one of the most progressive states in the country. My niece, who moved to MD from San Diego, CA, seven years ago, certainly agrees with you. I am in for your “Call to Action Day” tomorrow.
I think that not only should we personally call our elected officials demanding that they support polies to end gun violence, we should also focus asking our fellow citizens not to let the victims and their families down (by not making the call to demand action).
we should definitely share this 0 minutes video clips and make it go viral
This is for vc.
I just watched the 60 minutes segment on Sandy Hook and I can hardly breathe. Everyone’s heart should be absolutely broken. This is such a horrific tragedy. I cringed at that one Rep who just walked by the parents, blowing them off and saying, “I’m good.” Really, you’re “good”? I’d really like to know who that was.
I came here to look for our community of strength and compassion and sure enough, Chips has posted on this for us. Thank you so much.
This week OFA is focusing on both immigration and gun violence. PLEASE, please do your part to help advance legislation for the parents of these children who were so mercilessly killed and the families that are so violated. We must stand up with them and do something to make a difference.
Meta, I share everything you said after watching the 60 minutes segment on Sandy Hook. I turned the t.v. off after that segment because I simply was not able to pivot to ads or other issues. That woman Rep. who blew off the families must have a heart made of stone. The people who voted for her should be furious with her and should be vowing to kick her out of the state legislature. And if they vote for her again then shame, shame, on them.
I’ve been pretty busy at work since the first of the year so can someone explain to me if this UniteBlue group on twitter is a legitimate supporter? I just saw their “auto tweet” from yesterday and it seems anything but supportive. It seems that lots of folks that I follow and that follow me are followers.
What’s up with this group??
what was their autotweet?
I wont post the link but they were re-tweeting a picture of a “toothless Obama”
chips has been warning us about this group. astroturfers on twitterdom ? possible.
Thank you donna for not posting it, we don’t have time for such nonsense.
This is sort of the point of their whole effort. It seems 100% automated. Collecting followers, kicking out the right slogans and then automating the most RT tweet of the day, no matter the content. It doesn’t smell right.
I do my best to ignore them. Not a fan of their model and I don’t trust what they are doing. They seem very shady to me. If they help further the Dem cause, great. But I’m not joining them. I have OFA both locally and nationally.
And then there’s THIS:
.@140elect Before you consider @MrMilitantNegro for your board, and I'm told he has applied, *please* consider his attitude to women….— TheObamaDiary.com (@TheObamaDiary) April 08, 2013
Yes Chips is “educating” some of their followers right now on twitter. Seems their numbers are growing. I’m seeing that blue interlocking D all over my twitter timeline which is what called it to my attention and then I saw that offensive tweet. Ugh is right!!!
Isn’t this guy she’s referring to the one who’s been harassing her for months? I believe it is.
Yep! It sure is….!!!!
Chips, if the Green Family of scam artists align with cyberstalker misogynist #MrMilitantNegro it’s time for every woman on Twitter and all the men who support them to crush UB, the Greens and demand DOJ and Twitter action against whomever that cyberstalker is.
We have your back, Chips.
Me too. I’m suspicious they are about dividing and conquering Democrats.
They seem to be full of RWNJs and women haters – that’s the main problem.
I applaud CBS for having the courage to put this segment together. You got to know that they received advice not to do it. My heart is still shaking from the words those brave people uttered. I’m still active in OFA & will share Chipstick`s vids so we will have more passion when making phn calls. I love the tweets y`all have created. Yes We MUST!
Remember this visual that was shared here recently?
.@McConnellPress .@SenatorReid .@SenRonJohnson .@SenRandPaul: It's time 4 politicians to act in the nation's interest obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/32013-…— Vick C. (@sonamie) April 08, 2013
At least 28 of Max Baucus’s former aides are now tax lobbyists. #p2 m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog…— Joan (@LibertyBelleJ) April 08, 2013
I am sorry to say he is my Senator. I know people in his office here I have met with him several times. It is hard to get a straight word out of him. I have told them I would do nothing for his campaign. We had wanted Schweitzer to run against him but I guess that fell thru. Baucus is to strong in this small state.
It seems like in the media world when they aren’t trashing PBO they are praising and bowing before Hillary.
It’s getting to the point that I just want to throw my hands up in the air in complete disgust.
I think we all feel like that, lots of times, Jeff. Daily, almost. Let’s hang in there! (I don’t know how PBO stands it, but he sure sets the example for the rest of us – not to weaken in the face of all of the disgusting sights we have to witness from the media hounds.)
You are a delight to read withyour optimism jacqueline – ty for your replies to me on an earlier thread – I was in the kitchen – doing chores to chase away my thoughts – echoed above by Jeff.
I’m late to the party, but I cannot thank you enough for that, 99ts! I, too, need a lot of help (here) with the optimism, so thank you back. In fact, I pretty much stayed away from politics the entire day, to regroup! #FORWARD
Fact: John Boehner voted "yes" on every spending bill under Bush plus 5 "yes" votes to raise the #debtceiling $4T with no cuts or crisis.— GOP FIB Network (@GOPFIB) April 08, 2013
I could only get through half of this bulls—t story, so good luck if ya haven’t seen it. Normally, I don’t even “go there,” but the headline seemed so dumb, I had to check it out.
They are so desperate to find something critical about President Obama, they practically have resorted to lying about something like “President Obama makes all the men wear the same color shoes as he does.”
Where’s me wine?
@BuzzFeedBen My God, you guys are so jealous of President Obama, how can you sleep nights? You and your "insiders" and "top Democrats." WTF!— (@JOBoomr) April 08, 2013
Hold on. There’s a glass right here. Steady!!
jacquel, Excuse me but I don’t believe this B.S. Let me correct myself. I don’t believe that BULL SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excuse my language please.
Your language is no problem for me, that’s for sure! Why I even bothered to start reading that pile of crap, I’ll never know – think it’s the first time I’ve ever been to their website, and I know it’s the last.
Do Michelle make the ladies wear the same color shoes she wear? And every woman in the First Lady office had to get bangs when Michelle got hers.
Way to go JOB! May be they need to be reminded that Envy (Jealousy) is one of the Seven Deadly Sins!
REPUBLICANS: STARVE THE CHILDREN
So all this going after PBO on women’s issues — is that what it’s about?
You do know that “words” from anyone are worth more than ACTIONS from PBO, don’t you?
I’ve had enough with reading these stories for one night (because I am getting highly annoyed with the media, junque or otherwise), but I intuitively feel that Hillary is talking about the rights of women across the globe, not specifically in our country. (I’m really exhausted right now, but has she ever specifically directed any of these women’s rights efforts toward or within our country during the last four years? I think her main thrust has been in third-world countries on that topic, which has been important. Correct me, if I’m wrong.)
Also, I don’t think she is trying to point a negative light on President Obama in this area or any other area … that’s the trusty job of our media, which tries to use anything and everything (even the good stuff) against him. And tries to drag all of us along with them. Pitiful, ain’t it?
I’m not a big Hillary fan (except for her total support of Pres. Obama as SOS; I’ll give her that), but that’s what I think in this case.
Barack and Michelle reminds me of Jackie and Rachel. Things are better today in alot of ways. All the crap the POTUS and FLOTUS have to put up with, and like Jackie and Rachel they must remain silent, they must rise above it, and keep a smile on their face.
anniebella – I don’t know how either couple had such determination that has escaped other mere mortals (and I mean that!), but for the fact they knew they had something powerful to offer, they understood the times, they turned the other cheek (a million times), and they decided to go for it. And both gentlemen and their wives succeeded to the nth degree. And they’ll all be in the history book forevah, and their detractors will.not.be.
And with that very happy thought, I shall bid you all a fond goodnight!
P.S. Chips – You were masterful on Twitter taking down that maniac, and I’m glad you saw all the support you have through the encouraging responses you got, all around. Hang in there – we’ve got your back, too!
” I don’t know how either couple had such determination that has escaped other mere mortals….”
JO’B, all you need is an in-depth study of the experience of the enslaved Africans and how they were able to transcend every effort by their masters to dehumanize them and still retained their humanity – especially their faith in God, their hope for a better life, and, more importantly, their capacity to love. I really think all Americans would be much better human beings if they were taught the history and experience of African Americans. Poets, such as William Lawrence Dunbar, James Weldon Johnson, Langston Hughes, Margaret Walker , Gwendolyn Brooks, Maya Angelou and others, offer incites about the depth of African American capacity to transcend odds against them. So, Jackie and Rachel Robinson and Barak and Michelle Obama come from a very long tradition of a people who, through sheer determination and faith in God, have been able to overcome incredible odds against them.
Well said nathkatun7. I agree wholeheartedly.
Thank you for sharing all that beauty with us, through your words, nathkatun. That pretty much sums up their experiences, and those of so many, many others.
Before I go off to bed, I’ll leave you with this…..
I love my President and I will continue to work my heart out for him until the moment he leaves office. But…I was a Democrat before Nov 2008 and I will be a Democrat come January 2017. I believe in Democratic values that state that people should be allowed to make their own decisions and that we are our brothers and sisters keepers. Therefore, there is a role for government to play to ensure that everyone has the opportunity to get a hand up to a better way of life.
All this negative talk about Hillary Clinton is being fumed by the medias constant attention to everything she and Pres. Clinton does as a prelude to 2016. No serious Dem supporter is giving two hoots about 2016 so can I suggest that we not get so worked up and buy into the medias hooey? Yes there are HRC supporters out there that want her to run but this shouldn’t surprise any of us. Right? Let them support the Dem that they like. These cable pundits want to divide us and drum up all this animosity (earned or not) towards the Clinton’s because it makes for great cable infotainment. The average supporter is not a political junkie that follows politics 24/7 like we do.
2016 is a long way off and lots of things can happen between now and then and I hope that the torch is passed on to someone who will continue to inspire the Nation for Change. With that said, ANY Dem is better than ANY modern day Repub. I may not be a big fan of the Clinton’s but I sure wouldn’t hesitate to vote for her if given the choice between a Clinton or a Repub because as I said I am a Democrat and I’ll take the worse Dem (not that I feel she is the worse) over any Republican any day anytime.
Good Night TOD!!!
That’s the way it seems to have been for sometime. I’ll support whoever the nominee ends up being regardless.
I think most of us are on the same page, Donna. Goodnight.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Donna!
The infotainment media thinks that horserace speculation is more entertaining than real issues before the American people. That’s the fuel for the Hillary 2016 talk. That said, I second the above and say I will vote Democratic ticket in 2016 whoever that nominee is. It looks like it might be Hillary, but whoever it is, i will vote for that person. Intraparty conflicts only help the enemies our our President and his plans for America. So let’s not feed that fire.
Actually I seriously doubt the DEM nominee will be Hillary. And all this Hillary talk in the MSM right now is not about 2016, it’s about undermining the President and dividing Dems for the 2014 midterms.
Well said, Donna. We can’t allow ourselves to be jerked around by the media. They want to distract us from the real job of supporting the president’s agenda. I will support the Democratic nominee in 2016, but I’m not going to spend the next four years obsessing over it and thus ignoring our magnificent president because that’s exactly what the right wing wants us to do.
so this “uniteblue” group seems to have some kid named zach green working for it. is he related to the odious, proven fraud, friend of jane hamsher, adam green of “progressive change campaign committee?” another guy with few credentials who instantly shows up everywhere to say they are a “liberal” and then proceed to mislead about and insult president obama non-stop? i see the “reid report” was on this guy a while ago…
“Adam Green runs the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (a/k/a BoldProgressives.org), an entity designed to automatically disgorge mass solicitation emails attacking President Obama every time the president speaks, thereby raising copious amounts of cash to … um … what do they do, exactly? Oh, right… to buy a few ads attacking President Obama and the occasional Republican.”
well, adam green also seems to get on tv at will, and guess what he does with that time…blame president obama for everything and never talk about a good thing he does for a single second. now there’s a “zach green” basically doing the same thing with some other new group that’s instantly all over the place? got it. and what is the need for another group such as this anyway, when we’ve got “organizing for action” ramping up everywhere?!? i smell republican-funded “divide-and-conquer” operation here.
Zach is Adam’s son … proving the genetics of trash is truly inheritable …
thanks, bob. i clicked through to that and i think that’s a different adam green. ironically the dad has the same name, but the idiot i was thinking of is probably around 30 years old and a regular on ed schultz and shows like that are designed to divide democrats and get liberals focusing on the wrong things, which happens over and over. i’m not going to bother linking to any videos/photos of the dweeb. this zach green though seems to be behaving very similarly to the younger adam green though, so i wonder…
4morefor44, in my humble opinion, these so called progressives, like Adam Green, are trying to make money by attacking President Obama. You may be right that they are a “republican-funded “divide-and-conquer” operation.” Especially since we found out that Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake, who loudly and viciously campaigned against the ACA, received funding from right wingers.
thanks nath. you may be right, but i wonder how much money there is for them being these one trick, bash-obama 98% of the time ponies. i bet their nonprofits are getting some big “working capital” checks from some anonymous (wingnut welfare) donors. just a hunch, considering how they appear out of nowhere, with people like young adam green who have sparse credentials, and are instantly everywhere on tv and given space at major newspapers and so on, to play the role of disgruntled “liberal” who is mad at president obama constantly on almost every issue, and almost never say anything positive about one of the best presidents in history – president obama. it’s so weird to watch these games play our right in front of us time and time again. thankfully, with president obama’s approach and now “organizing for action” we can overcome these tricks that have been working for the billionaires in previous decades.
McConnell and other Republicans talk up a storm on patriotism and America, then they block aid to Veterans http://t.co/pVsxTuGwIG— Timi Burke (@gotdem) April 08, 2013
Reading the entries on this (and previous) posts, has motivated me to step out of my comfort zone. I just sent the following email to my GA senators. Not sure what impact it will have, but you never know….
This country has experienced numerous tragedies as a result of gun violence. In recent years there have been mass shootings in Tucson, Aurora, and most recently, the mass shooting in Newtown that took the lives of 20 children. Closer to home was the senseless murder of a 13 month old child in Glynn County, GA.
The segment last night on 60 Minutes should remind us of the devastation and pain felt, not only by the families directly affected in Newtown, but how we felt – AGAIN – as a nation after another senseless massacre.
It is time to enact gun reform. Sensible gun reform does not deny people of their right to purchase guns, but deters the ability of individuals to perpetrate senseless killings; especially on a mass scale.
Expanded background checks to include gun shows and private sales, limits on magazine rounds, penalties for those who purchase guns for people who would otherwise be ineligible are all sensible legislation. We require persons to purchase auto insurance because of the potential damage that can be done. Why not the same for guns?
There is the argument that reformed gun laws won’t stop criminals from getting guns, or committing crimes. I doubt that anyone believes that reform will stop ALL shootings/killings. But it will go a long way in reducing the number of violent deaths that have been occurring in the U.S.
Part of the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States is to “promote the general welfare…” Does this not mean to legislate for the good of EVERYONE; not just the interests of a few or a select group? As a U.S. Senator, you are being counted upon to work in the best interest of everyone knowing that your actions or inactions have an impact on more than just the more visible individuals and special interest groups.
As a Georgia citizen, I am asking you as my senator for the following: 1) Don’t forget the devastation we feel as a nation each time gun massacres and even murders on a smaller scale occur; 2) Allow gun reform laws to be brought up for a vote (do not filibuster); and 3) Legislate for the good of the masses and not the interests of the few — vote for sensible gun legislation.
Don’t let the tragic deaths of innocent people and the suffering of their families have been in vain. Let it result in something practical and beneficial for this nation. Gun reform legislation is needed NOW.
Very well done swbluega! Thank you for stepping out of your comfort zone and doing this. No effort is ever a wasted effort. Without even realizing you probably inspired someone else today to do the same. You certainly were an inspiration to me today.
Have a great day!!
There are many motivators on this blog, Donna, and you are one of them. The work that you have done and continue to do is appreciated. Thank you.
Super letter, swbluega! WTG, this will inspire many of us to maybe leave our own comfort zones and do the same. Well done!
If anyone else is inspired then that will be great. Thanks andogriff.
Very well said, SW! Letters like these that speak truth without being confrontational are excellent models IMO, so, Thank YOU for sharing it here! I’m sure your new, expanded comfort zone feels really good.
It does vc!
Margaret Thatcher died this morning following a stroke according to her spokesman Lord Bell – @pressassoc— Adeboye Oriade (@AdeboyeOriade) April 08, 2013
May she RIP.
I was always amazed that given her upbringing she decoded to join the British political party of the wealthy. She proceeded to make one generation of council housing tenants wealthy – and ruined a housing system that had provided a safety net to millions.
And on a completely different track her death will hopefully stop Mrs Palin in her efforts to make Baroness Thatcher her BBF.
I watched the 60 minutes interviews with the incredibly courageous parents of those precious babies, and can barely see through my tears. I hear their pain so clearly, but am heartened by the large measure of eloquence that they express themselves with. They are resolute and tenacious, and I think that they are going to be heard! They will not be denied.
Yesterday on MTP, I caught just a few minutes of a conversation about gun legislation and the consensus was that they think the President missed his window. He waiting too long, blah blah blah. As if in 120 days, this all should be settled by now. How many days has congress actually been in Washington since December 14th? Again, if PBO cured cancer, they’d complain what took him so long.
One of the parents in the 60 minutes piece explained after four months of grieving, they are just now getting their voices on his topic. I am confident that these parents will bring change to our country. May God Bless them all.
Obama/Biden – Not long enough
Amen Grace, if these brave families can’t manage to bring about gun law change, then there is no hope for us.
In those 120 days, how many of them has Congress actually been “at work”? And of those days, besides obstructing, what have they actually done of any significance?
Grace, MTP is a cesspool of right wing, anti-Obama propaganda. That anyone with a brain or a semblance of a heart could think there was a “window” on grief or outrage over the continuing deaths of innocents is just monstrous. We have a completely nonfunctional political party running the House of Representatives and scared witless senators unwilling to challenge the almighty NRA lobby and it’s the president’s fault? Every talk show that gets into this garbage needs to be boycotted. They are bottom feeders who gorge themselves on hate.
Hello Grace – I share your tears – and as for the President – he has missed nothing – why won’t they talk about the congress – doing nothing to look after the children of America and keep them safe from those weapons of death.
The gun lobby lies in Australia about the statistics – funny about that – Howard fell over backwards to support GWB – but the gun laws were the one good thing he gave to Australia – and he had to fight his coalition partners to get it.
Good morning, Chips. Just wanted you to know that I am still not getting email notifications. I am not sure what is going on.
oh me either syummetry- that just started happening to me late saturday.
oops ‘symmetry’ can’t type yet this morning
Check your “spam” folder. I just realized that all of my emails for TOD & 3Chics have been going to spam.
Firefox 20.0 released.
I see today’s anti-Obama theme is that he is responsible for his “good friends”, Beyonce and Jay Z, being in Cuba in violation of the law and enraging the usual suspects. NBC almost morphed the couple into President Obama, showing Beyonce at the inauguration and JayZ rapping about him. I’m starting to think there is an anti-Obama committee who works around the clock to come up with some new daily outrage. Tiresome and—- distraction alert!
If they were not famous and friends with the President..no one would have even noticed.
They are also a black couple who publicly love each other and not affected by scandal. And that’s a HUGE part of the MSM outrage.
I saw and felt the same thing doster. They are so desperate to pin something negative on the President that it has evolved to guilt by association.
Well, he is trying to tax the rich. The rich own the media. What did you think, he would get no pushback?
This is all a coordinated strategy to smear the President . And they definitely do not want another like him- you know Teddy Roosevelt was in the same boat?
NBC also had an interview with Chelsea Clinton for today’s Clinton spotlight. She said she hears and appreciates the clamor for her mom to run, and she knows her mom will decide to do “what is best for the country”. Hmmmm—that sounds like a yes—because why would she imply not running is best for the country. And—-she hinted at a future run for office for herself. Clintons forever!
Better than bush forever!
So, it seems Margaret Thatcher has passed away?
The ‘Iron Lady’ is at peace
I am already over-Thatcherated. Knoller is going wild tweeting W’s loveliest quotes about her. Just what we all need—–revived Bush quotes.
The rule is that you may only say only nice things about Margret Thatcher until Sarah Palin chimes in.— (@LOLGOP) April 08, 2013
White House Pressures G.O.P. on Gun Control
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR
Dan Pfeiffer, a senior adviser to President Obama, said Sunday that members of both parties applauded during the State of the Union address when President Obama — with some of the Newtown families looking on — insisted that the gun legislation deserved a vote in Congress.
“Now that the cameras are off and they are not forced to look the Newtown families in the face, now they want to make it harder and filibuster it,” Mr. Pfeiffer said on the ABC News program “This Week.”
“We can’t have it. If we have a simple up-or-down vote, we can get this done,” he said.
Jay Carney, the White House press secretary said last week that the president would remind “members of Congress that those who have been most affected by tragic gun violence deserve a vote on the measures currently being considered.”
Read more here…….
Jon Favreau’s ‘first’ – give him some hits.
My first column for @thedailybeast is about the most exciting word in politics today: sequestration. Take a look: thebea.st/10KIpvC— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) April 08, 2013
On March 1, the day sequestration took effect, President Obama addressed the nation: “Now, what’s important to understand is that not everyone will feel the pain of these cuts right away. The pain, though, will be real.” This led patient political observers at The Washington Post and Politico to wait five long days before penning two pieces with nearly identical headlines: “Did President Obama cry wolf on the sequester?” and “Now Dems worry: Did President Obama cry wolf?” Evidence for the shiny, new narrative came directly from the Post’s own fact checker, who unleashed a full arsenal of Pinocchios on the president for claiming that sequestration would lead to a cut in pay for Capitol Hill janitors. The truth? The president should have said it would lead to a cut in overtime for Capitol Hill janitors, causing them to … earn less pay. Honestly, how does the man even sleep at night?
One month and 5 billion cable hits on White House tours later, a flurry of great reporting is allowing us to answer for ourselves the question of whether President Obama has “cried wolf.” If we want, we can ask the Americans who are losing their jobs at military bases in Tennessee, Illinois, and Virginia. We can ask the health-care employees facing layoffs in New York, or the contractors in Oklahoma, or the teachers in Iowa, or the workers cleaning up nuclear waste in Washington
#JonFavreau: Pundits said President Obama was crying wolf on sequestration. Turns out the wolf is real. thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/…— (@amk4obama) April 08, 2013
Thanks vc. Great read!!
Morning, Hopef. It’s great to have one of our ‘own’ out in the media-sphere.
About Bill Clinton getting the GLAAD award before President Obama…
That would be akin to, after the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act were passed…
The NAACP not giving the Springarn to Lyndon Baines Johnson..
and instead giving it to Strom Thurmond.
THAT is how ridiculous this award to Bill Clinton is.
I guess it took Margaret Thatcher’s death to get Mark Knoller off PBO’s back. He’s out of control with the Thatcher-tweeting this morning.
She was a conservative.
Yes she was. That’s why Knoller can’t find peace. He is grieving on Tweeter. He needs to find himself in church with Dubya and the ghost of St. Ronnie – the three of them singing “Be Still My Soul.”
She was a horrible leader to mourn for. Of course know-nothing knoller would mourn her death.
MooooooOOOOOOoooorning!! R&S is baking, will be out of the oven in 15ish mins!
Oh boy, is that real time or Chips time? Morning!
I just cannot get last night’s Newtown interview out of my mind and heart, and I do not want to. I believe that all 595 members of Congress should be made to sit in a quiet room and watch this interview. If they can do that without their hearts softening, then they should not be representing living, breathing people in Congress.
Scott Pelley did a real journalist’s job last night. I believe this was a very dificult interview for him, but, he let them talk and did not insert himself into the story, as so many “journalists” do. I will write him and commend him.
Something struck me last night watching those parents. In contrast to previous victims’ groups, these people have time and money to pursue this legislation, which previous groups did not have. These parents are not going to let this die, and all of us American people will work with them in every way we can. To think that the “window” is closed is incomprehensible. What does that say about Americans? Are we that childish? I sincerely hope not.
I do not agree that the window has closed on this, it is just getting started and with this 60 Minutes show got more momentum. We need to keep this kind of media in the news, newspapers, etc. Just like they said healthcare was dead…ending DADT…..DOMA……it ain’t over until PBO is out of office. HE is depending on us to keep the heat on our legislatures…state and federal.
It is always darker before dawn. This issue is moving FORWARD! We are not going back. Eventually, the will of the people will be done. Gun deaths are 10K plus yearly and the Medical cost and the Human toll is too painful to sustain.
I'll be on @MSNBC at 10am to talk about the president's trip to #CT today, and the need to act on common sense gun reform. Tune in— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) April 08, 2013
MUST SEE VIDEO…Scarborough this morning.
Chefs ages 8-12: @FLOTUS invites kids to enter @LetsMove /@Epicurious lunch recipe contest tinyurl.com/cz4smzh \ #KidsStateDinner— Eddie Gehman Kohan (@ObamaFoodorama) April 08, 2013
GM TODers…..anticipation is making TODers wait.
Patient is a Virtue
Great Threat takes Hard 15 Minutes
Patience is a Virtue……I have my Morning Coffee now…..by my side.
Hush you! My watch must have stopped…….
Statement from President Obama on the passing of Baroness Margaret #Thatcher: at.wh.gov/jQXjW— The White House (@whitehouse) April 08, 2013
Phew, at last
Just the Way You Are……Love….Bruno Mars
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