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@PeteSouza: ‘POTUS receives update this am on Oklahoma tornado aftermath from Sec Napolitano et al’


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  1. 1 vitaminlover
    May 21, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    President Obama is on it.

  2. May 21, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    “If you’re walking down the right path and you’re willing to keep walking, eventually you’ll make progress.”_____Barack Obama Speech on Race (Tuesday, March 18, 2008)

    =====

    So keep walking TODers because despite the obstruction and despite what may seem like set-backs, progress is being made. We are on the right path.

  3. May 21, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    I had begun typing this response to someone who expressed concerns about True the Vote or the IRS mess on the last thread, so I just brought it here.

    If memory serves me right, a Federal Judge in Houston (?) ruled that True the Vote had illegally helped the GOP. She said the group was not a non-profit group, but a PAC. She also said they had not been persecuted, but were simply whining because they wanted special rules that accommodated them. They were allowed to proceed with some other kind of suit, but I don’t remember what it was.

    • 8 57andfemale
      May 21, 2013 at 5:34 pm

      Was that True the Vote? I remember reading something about that case today.

      But I would assume the lawsuit’s purpose, other than nefarious Republican mischief, is to weaken the effect of the Federal judge’s decision in Houston (I’m pretty sure it was Houston, too).

    • 9 Linda
      May 21, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      I found it.

      A Travis County district court judge ruled this week that a Houston-based tea party group is not a nonprofit corporation as it claims, but an unregistered political action committee that illegally aided the Republican Party through its poll-watching efforts during the 2010 elections.

      The summary judgment by Judge John Dietz upheld several Texas campaign finance laws that had been challenged on constitutional grounds by King Street Patriots, a tea party organization known for its “True the Vote” effort to uncover voter fraud.

      The ruling grew out of a 2010 lawsuit filed by the Texas Democratic Party against the King Street Patriots. The Democrats charged that the organization made unlawful political contributions to the Texas Republican Party and various Republican candidates by training poll watchers in cooperation with the party and its candidates and by holding candidate forums only for GOP candidates.

      http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Judge-rules-tea-party-group-a-PAC-not-a-nonprofit-3442532.php

      The ruling was in March of 2012….Would they need to appeal before suing the IRS ?

      • May 21, 2013 at 5:50 pm

        Thanks Linda. I should have looked it up myself, but trying to do about ten things at once. :)

        • 11 Linda
          May 21, 2013 at 5:56 pm

          You are welcome. I too remembered reading about that and a light bulb went off…..

          I again looked at the link I posted on the last thread……it appears King Street Patriots/True the Vote was one company. I applied for a 501 c-3 charitable organization originally…then split off True the Vote as a new corporation and filed for a 501-c-4.

      • 12 57andfemale
        May 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm

        Thank you so much, Linda.

  4. May 21, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    What’s up people?!

    Finished my 10th radiation treatment for the spine surgeries I had. I think they’ve helped a lot. Still, this is only part one of a million things that I need to fix before I’m even close to normal.

    Sigh.

  5. May 21, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Good Afternoon Chipsticks, TODer…Everyone

    The President’s woman problem is really apparent in this picture. ;-)

    • 46 57andfemale
      May 21, 2013 at 5:46 pm

      So true. What gets me: where are Mrs. Greenspan and Mrs. Klein to compliment and support the President for having so many strong, capable women in his administration? Only to make up fake criticism.

  6. 47 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    May 21, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Took a quick break from the polls; just checking in to say hi! Turnout is extremely light — at 4PM we only had 110 voters…

    • 48 Dudette
      May 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm

      I’m not up on what’s happening in Delaware… who’s running in the primary.

    • 49 jackiegrumbacher
      May 21, 2013 at 6:05 pm

      Alycee, in our precinct, we had almost no one running on the Democratic ticket. Just about every office had to be written in. The poll workers were already bored silly by 10:00 this morning and were probably going to be taking naps by mid afternoon. Next year will be VERY different as we wage an all out war against our governor.

    • 50 Grab a Mop Grace
      May 21, 2013 at 6:20 pm

      Alycee,

      Very quiet at my voting location too. (Suburban PIttsburgh)
      Sigh.
      At 5pm, I was only the 124th of the DAY to vote there.

      I asked the poll workers about last year’s Primary. They had 1500 by 5pm last year.

      If you don’t vote, DON’T COMPLAIN!!

  7. 51 57andfemale
    May 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Brought over from the last thread – it’s really important to keep the pressure on the fact that with First Amendment rights should come responsibilities: AP just wanted a scoop, and our national security interests be damned. So say Justice Department officials from three previous administrations (two of them Republican administrations):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/opinion/stop-the-leaks.html?hp&_r=1&

    • 52 jackiegrumbacher
      May 21, 2013 at 6:06 pm

      Agree. We keep the pressure on the media, members of Congress and just as importantly with people we speak to, so they understand what’s really happening with this faux scandal de jeur.

    • May 21, 2013 at 6:16 pm

      I am in total agreement. We should stop watching ABC and not let up until we get some satisfaction.

  8. 54 Allison
    May 21, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Look at some of the wonderful, intelligent, capable women in the Obama Administration.

  9. 58 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/21/18403447-reaching-the-weather-weapon-stage?lite

    reaching the weather weapon stage…

    .This caught my eye, however, because of recent developments — we’ve seen Republican officeholders in state legislatures, the U.S. House, and even the U.S. Senate take Alex Jones’ ideas seriously. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) intends to run for president — of the United States — and he’s been a guest on Alex Jones’ show.
    In other words, the guy raising the specter of Obama using “weather weapons” to kill Oklahomans is the same guy helping influence several Republican policymakers in 2013.
    Maybe it’s just me, but I find that rather alarming.

    • 59 jackiegrumbacher
      May 21, 2013 at 5:57 pm

      PF, I think that when you have reached the level of absurd irrational hatred that talk radio has taken the country to, you have to stretch beyond all sanity to keep people scared and outrage. To think that any president of the United States or any human being has the power to create a tornado is to give him God like powers. This is nuts. Plainly and simply nuts. And at some point it has to be called what it is. Let Rand Paul go on the national stage and talk like this. Let outright lunacy and derangement be the public face of the Republican Party. I double dare them.

  10. 60 dotster3
    May 21, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Military is having a lot of sex problems—-Army general suspended for assault and adultery……

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/21/general-relieved-of-command-for-adultery-assault-allegations/2347539/

    • 61 Dudette
      May 21, 2013 at 5:49 pm

      Well, well, well… if it’s Tuesday, there must be another military sex scandal

    • 62 Linda
      May 21, 2013 at 6:03 pm

      Factoid.

      In 1998, the Clinton Administration authored a change to the Manual for Courts-Martial, which provided that cases of adultery be handled at the lowest appropriate level, and provided specific guidance for commanders to use in order to determine whether or not the member’s conduct was “prejudicial to good order and discipline,” or “of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.” While the President does have the authority to issue changes to the MCM, this proposal resulted in screams and yells from Congress, and was subsequently dropped.

      However, in a very quiet move, in 2002, President Bush adopted many of the changes that were proposed by President Clinton. In addition to the Elements of Proof,” the “Explanation” section under this offense now requires commanders to consider several factors when determining whether or not the offense of “adultery” constitutes a crime.

  11. 66 relellit
    May 21, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Good afternoon everyone,

    Soon all the obstruction for funding with disasters and lies like IRS, AP, & BENGHAZI told by the GOP & Tea Party gang bangers will become so obvious it will incur the wrath of the people. 1998 is coming in 2014!

    Me, myself, I trust the press about as much as the obstructionist Republicans in Congress. Instead of being real journalists they push crack pot radical agendas for Murdoch and the Koch Bros. National Security leaks are serious business.

  12. 67 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 5:47 pm

  13. 72 jackiegrumbacher
    May 21, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Just want to point out that FEMA, the Red Cross and other charitable groups are in for a very extended haul in a situation like Oklahoma and this is probably the first of a very long string of disasters as hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and fires mount across the country. Every agency is going to be stretch thin. As we pray for the victims and their families and all those who need to recover their lives, please spare a kind thought for the disaster workers who literally give up their own lives and families for months at a time, working 18 hour days, sometimes commuting hours to the nearest cheap motel to catch a few hours of sleep as week after week of on the ground support goes by. These people will not leave the area until all needs are met and families have received as much help as it’s possible to give. And a good many of them are volunteers, trained to jump in and help when a disaster strikes. There are a lot of silent heroes out there that most of us never know and they work their hearts out in every recovery situation. They will still be there when this tornado is a distant memory.

  14. 75 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 5:51 pm

  15. 79 Jovie
    May 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm

  16. 80 dotster3
    May 21, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    Now I think I’ve heard everything (probably not)——Obama (“the government”) caused the Ok. tornado!—–surprising news!—–Alex Jones (Rand Paul’s buddy) is warning people if they saw small aircraft and helicopters flying around up there in Ok. —-”spraying and doing things”—-then—bingo!—-govt. caused the tornado —–on purpose!
    Are there actually people listening to this nutball and believing any of this brain-damaged garbage? There are no lengths too far—-no accusations too preposterous— for some of these freaks.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/21/18403447-reaching-the-weather-weapon-stage?lite

  17. 87 Linda
    May 21, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    FORT MEADE, Md. — Lawyers in the court-martial of an Army private who sent more than 700,000 classified U.S. documents to WikiLeaks said Tuesday they have reached a deal that may eliminate the need for testimony from a member of the military team that killed Osama bin Laden. Prosecutors also agreed to accept Pfc. Bradley Manning’s guilty plea to a lesser version of one of the 22 counts he faces.

    Under the agreement, both the prosecution and defense teams would acknowledge at Manning’s trial next month that there is digital evidence indicating bin Laden saw some of the material Manning released. The raid team member, presumably a Navy SEAL, was expected to testify that the evidence was recovered during a May 2011 raid on the al-Qaida leader’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

    The deal must be approved by the military judge Army Col. Denise Lind, who has been presiding over a series of pretrial hearings that ended Tuesday. She also will preside at the bench trial, which is scheduled to begin June 3 and run through the summer.

  18. 89 Bill R.
    May 21, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    Kevin Durant is a very kind and gentlemanly player, a role model athlete who is a gift to the nation.

    • 90 anniebella
      May 21, 2013 at 8:59 pm

      Very nice of Kevin Durant. Let’s hear more about this, considering the media won’t hesitate to give us the bad things sports stars do. When they do something nice let’s hear about that just as much.

  19. 91 Dudette
    May 21, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    This one’s for you Chips! Just picture it: All the cheesy puffs you can eat, thanks to technology inspired by the geeky-nerdy Trek universe! :cool: :cool: :cool:

  20. 94 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 6:32 pm

  21. 103 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/05/21/democrats-face-terrible-dilemma-on-gay-rights-and-immigration/

    Right now, Patrick Leahy, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is deciding whether to introduce amendments to the Gang of Eight immigration bill that would extend the same immigration rights to gay and lesbian couples that it does to straight couples. Republicans such as Marco Rubio have insisted that if Dems do this, it will kill the bill by giving conservatives a way to walk away from it…

    **********************************************

    Showdown coming….

  22. 109 Dudette
    May 21, 2013 at 7:10 pm

  23. 110 Dudette
    May 21, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

  24. 118 Jovie
    May 21, 2013 at 7:18 pm

  25. 119 dotster3
    May 21, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    So sad—first identified tornado victim—-9 yr. old girl. Her dad was trying to get to her school to pick her up, driving from work in Ok. City—-but roads were clogged and by the time he got there it was too late.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/21/18402060-9-year-old-from-plaza-towers-school-among-first-tornado-victims-identified?lite

  26. May 21, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    “Patrick Leahy: No gay rights amendment”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/orrin-hatch-chuck-schumer-reach-deal-on-high-tech-visa-program-91670.html

    Senate Judiciary Committee Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) said he will withhold his amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration bill that would allow gay Americans to sponsor their foreign-born spouses for green cards.

    • 122 Lovepolitics2008
      May 21, 2013 at 8:35 pm

      Why don’t they force republicans to vote against it ?

    • 123 jacquelineoboomer
      May 21, 2013 at 9:13 pm

      Please, let’s just rip down the Statue of Liberty now, and let Emma’s poem at its base drown in the waters. Why keep kidding we welcome immigrants?

  27. 124 Dudette
    May 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Unrelated but very cool!
    ————–
    From BBC’s Earth Unplugged
    Slow Motion Shaolin Warriors
    A human special this week on Slow Mo, as Sam and Si reveal what sets us apart from other primates, with some acrobatic help from the shaolin warriors. With limited time, and a new camera to play with, can they capture the lightning fast moves of the world’s most successful animal?

  28. 125 dotster3
    May 21, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    $19.6 million settlement in another priest sex abuse case—–28 young men (teenagers) said they were abused by this priest. And again abuse continued for years as Catholic church officials kept moving him to another diocese to abuse some more.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-lawsuit-against-exjesuit-priest-mcguire-settled-for-196m-20130521,0,2663678.story

  29. May 21, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    I’ll have a This and That posted faster than a blink of an eye-ish.

  30. May 21, 2013 at 7:58 pm

  31. 129 hopefruit2
    May 21, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Chips, could you free my post – pretty please? :) :) :) Thanks in advance!

  32. 130 hopefruit2
    May 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm

  33. 133 hopefruit2
    May 21, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Awwww…..

  34. 136 Jovie
    May 21, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    McConnell won’t block immigration bill from hitting Senate floor
    Alexander Bolton
    05/21/13 05:13 PM ET
    The Republican leader, who is running for reelection in 2014, immediately took fire from his right flank for the decision.…

    -/
    He’s not filibustering! This is huge! I think we got it!

  35. 138 prettyfoot58
    May 21, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    You can have all the highest ideals in the world, but if your actions don’t help implement them, what you’re doing is actually somewhat worthless. Worse, depending on how you frame an ideal, you could end up doing more harm than good

    • 139 Nena20409
      May 21, 2013 at 9:22 pm

      Ask Kucinich or Sanders. Sooner or later, the old creed by the late sen Ted Kennedy holds today:

      Don’t left the perfect be the Enemy of the Good.

      For the Progressives to continue to agitate is Needed….but to whine so much that nothing gets done is Teabaggers’ style form of Progressivism.

  36. 140 MightyPamela
    May 21, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    After pondering on LL’s piece, I thought how wonderful it could be if people needing help in a crisis recognized it is all of us helping them, and not just an ‘agency’, or a president. What a different mental space it would bring.

    • 141 jackiegrumbacher
      May 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm

      That’s why the president always says in a disaster, “the American people stand with you,” rather than the United States government, MP. He always puts it in people terms.

  37. 142 Jovie
    May 21, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    We did it, it’s on the Floor! Oh lordie!

  38. 145 Ladyhawke
    May 21, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    FRANK SHARRY: IMMIGRATION REFORM TAKES A GIANT STEP FORWARD WITH PASSAGE OF BILL FROM SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

    ==================================

    The below is a statement from Frank Sharry, Executive Director of America’s Voice:

    Today immigration reform took a giant step forward. The Gang of Eight bill is a carefully balanced piece of legislation that has broad-based bipartisan support and emerges from the committee as a stronger bill than when it went in. This is a bill that can both pass this Congress and work when implemented.

    Of particular importance is the fact all of the Senate Democrats on the committee as well as Gang of Eight Republican Senators Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) helped to ensure the path to citizenship remains achievable. With Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) promising to bring up the bill in June and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) promising not to block it, it appears the Senate is poised to make history.

    ====================================

    Read more here ….

    http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/frank-sharry-immigration-reform-takes-a-giant-step-forward-with-passage-of-bill-from-senate-judiciary-committee/


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