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The Good That Is ObamaCare

Information is power. ObamaCare works and is here to stay, so go out into the world and educate people. 2014 is around the corner and we have to be our own news and become even more proactive. Don’t let the media, so called progressive experts or the GOP demoralize you. Even if you only inform one person about the fantastic awesomeness that is ObamaCare, you have created a ripple effect because that person will tell another and another and another. Nobody said implementation of ObamaCare would be easy; Medicare and Social Security had a rough ride initially, but now? Try to mess with them negatively and watch the backlash explode. I will keep on providing tools that will help you disseminate facts and stop the lies. :D

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RWJF: Traditionally, individuals considering leaving their job to strike out on their own have worried that they may be denied health insurance coverage because they have preexisting conditions, fear losing access to a trusted physician, or are unable to afford the premiums without an employer sharing the costs. The result is that some U.S. workers feel “job lock,” being tethered to their jobs and unable to leave, even if their skills and talents no longer match their position.

New research estimates that the number of self-employed Americans will be 1.5 million higher in 2014 because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Beginning next year, access to high-quality, subsidized health insurance coverage will no longer be exclusively tied to employment, which could lead people to pursue their own businesses as self-employed entrepreneurs.

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Denise Early: Around 900,000 people living in Arizona do not have health insurance. Over 90% of them will get help from Obamacare. 94% of uninsured people in Tucson will get help paying for their health insurance under Obamacare, according to Enroll America. Based on census data, 50%  of the uninsured in Tucson would qualify for expanded Medicaid. In Arizona, Medicaid is run by AHCCCS, pronounced “access” (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System). 44% of uninsured Tucsonans would qualify for help with their health insurance premium.

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The White House Blog: The Medicare Trustees reported some good news for seniors and taxpayers: The Medicare program will be solvent through 2026, nearly a decade longer than projected at the time of passage of the Affordable Care Act. This is 2 years longer than projected last year. Their annual report also shows that the long run actuarial deficit in the Hospital Insurance Trust Fund – a measure of its long-term fiscal health – has been cut by more than 70 percent since enactment of the health care law. The long-run Medicare deficit has fallen from 3.88 percent of taxable payroll in the 2009 Trustees Report to 1.11 percent in this report.

These long-run gains are matched by short-term relief: the Trustees also project that the Part B premium will not increase between 2013 and 2014, keeping out-of-pocket costs for beneficiaries down. Medicare cost growth has remained at historically low levels over the past three years even as new benefits for preventive care and prescription drugs have helped tens of millions of beneficiaries access care at lower cost. The law reduces prescription drug costs by closing the donut hole, a policy that has already saved more than 6 million seniors more than $700 each. And more than 32 million seniors have accessed a free preventive service under the law, helping them stay healthy and avoid future illness.

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Ezra Klein and Evan Soltas: In 2009, the Congressional Budget Office predicted that a medium-level “silver” plan — which covers 70 percent of a beneficiary’s expected health costs — on the California health exchange would cost $5,200 annually. More recently, a report from the consulting firm Milliman predicted it would carry a $450 monthly premium. Yesterday, we got the real numbers. And they’re lower than anyone thought.

The way this competition can drive down rates is already evident in Oregon. There, one insurer came in with monthly premium costs in the $169 range, while other insurers asked to charge more than $400. But then, seeing  what their competitors were charging, two insurers came back to the state’s regulators and asked if they could refile at lower rates. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be competitive in the exchange. The Obama administration was ecstatic to see this: It’s exactly what they’re hoping will happen across the country.

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USA TODAY: Market forces and an impetus to attract younger, healthier people into the insurance market will help keep health insurance premiums lower as the 2010 health care law takes effect on Jan. 1, industry analysts and insurance officials say.

“If they price too high, young people won’t buy insurance, and that’s going to hurt the companies,” said Jay Angoff, who led initial implementation of the law for HHS. “They need these people to come in. It’s an industry problem.”

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Ezra Klein: Last week, California released early information on the rates insurers intend to charge on the new insurance marketplaces — known as “exchanges” — that the state is setting up under Obamacare. They were far lower than anyone expected. “This is a home run for consumers in every region of California,” crowed Peter Lee, director of the state’s exchanges. The Affordable Care Act’s critics saw it differently. Avik Roy, a conservative health writer at Forbes, said Lee was being “misleading” and that “Obamacare, in fact, will increase individual-market premiums in California by as much as 146 percent.” Obamacare, he said, would trigger “rate shock,” the jolt people feel when they see higher rates.  Roy got his 146 percent by heading to eHealthInsurance.com, running a search for insurance plans in California and comparing the cost of the cheapest plans to the cost of the plans being offered in the exchanges. That’s not just comparing apples to oranges. It’s comparing apples to oranges that the fruit guy may not even let you buy.

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Click to buy the plan and eventually you’ll have to answer pages and pages of questions about your health history. Ever had cancer? How about an ulcer? How about a headache? Do you feel sad when it rains?  Is there a history of cardiovascular disease in your family? Have you ever known anyone who had the flu? The actual cost of the plan will depend on how you answer those questions. According to HealthCare.gov, 14 percent of people who try to buy that plan are turned away outright. Another 12 percent are told they’ll have to pay more than $109.

Comparing the pre-underwriting price of this plan to those in Obamacare’s exchanges is ridiculous. The plans in Obamacare’s exchanges have to include those people. They can’t turn anyone away or jack up rates because of a history of arthritis or heart disease. They also have to offer insurance that meets a certain minimum standard. Under Obamacare, for instance, the out-of-pocket limit for someone making 100 to 200 percent of the poverty line is $1,983. Under the Value 4500, you could spend up to $9,500 before the out-of-pocket limit kicked in. Obamacare also has subsidies for people making up to four times the poverty line. The poor pay next to nothing. The rich pay full freight.

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Sy Mukherjee: Golden State small businesses and their employees got some great news: two of the state’s largest insurers will have to give them over $36 million in insurance rebates because of an Obamacare consumer protection.

The health law forces insurers to spend at least 80 percent of the premiums they charge on paying for actual medical services, rather than administrative overhead or profits. That means more money for ordinary consumers — and less for profitable insurance companies.

The so-called “80/20 rule” put $1.5 billion back into Americans’ pockets in 2011 alone. The average rebate was $151 per family across all insurance markets, and in states where insurers blatantly gouged prices, average rebates topped a whopping $500 per family.

Now, the benefits for Californians with small business health plans are beginning to materialize. Blue Shield of California will be forced to pay back $24.5 million in rebates. Anthem Blue Cross will have to pay back another $12 million.

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Tara Culp-Ressler: A new study focusing on low-income women in St. Louis, MO concludes that expanding access to free contraception — just as the health care reform law does through its provision to provide birth control without a co-pay — leads to significantly lower rates of unintended teen pregnancy and abortion. Researchers found that when women weren’t prohibited by cost, they chose more effective, long-lasting forms of birth control and experienced many fewer unintended pregnancies as a result.

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ThinkProgress: Americans who bought individual health plans in 2012 saved $2.1 billion thanks to Obamacare consumer protections that limit how much insurers can profit off of Americans’ premiums, according to a new study by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF). The vast majority of those savings stem from individual health plan providers lowering the premiums they charge Americans in an effort to comply with the reform law.

The Kaiser study comes shortly after several major California insurers announced that they would have to pay back $36 million to small businesses and their employees after charging them too much. Obamacare mandates that insurers on the individual market spend at least 80 percent of the premiums they charge on actual medical services, or reimburse the amount they overspent to their customers.

But insurers can avoid writing those checks after-the-fact if they just lower their premiums to begin with — and KFF’s study concludes that’s what many individual plan providers have been doing.

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President Obama signing the Affordable Care Act into law on March 23rd, 2010.

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149 Responses to “The Good That Is ObamaCare”


  1. 1 Mellesia Barnett
    July 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Howdy!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. 3 isonprize
    July 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    hey

  3. 5 Mellesia Barnett
    July 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    This is indeed what change looks like, thank you President Obama

  4. 6 57andfemale
    July 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Bookmarked for quick, one-stop access to absolutely every fact we need. Great job, UT

  5. 7 vitaminlover
    July 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Doggone right he cares!

  6. 8 57andfemale
    July 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm
  7. 9 dotster3
    July 3, 2013 at 12:42 pm
  8. July 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Latest from Egypt: Morsi is offering a coalition gov’t made up of all parties until the next elections.

  9. 11 utaustinliberal
    July 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    • 12 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2013 at 2:11 pm

      UT, I could truly hug you for this magnificent post. Educating massive numbers of people is a huge undertaking and it’s done one by one, person to person, one success story after another. This week the true impact of ObamaCare hit home. My son was laid off from his 9-year job and was without health insurance. On Sunday, he took himself to the emergency room because he suspected he might be having a heart attack. Thanks to heaven, it was just a bunch of stress that was causing him problems, but the bill he will be asked to pay for that one visit will be enormous, as well as another source of stress. Next year, when he is enrolled in ObamaCare that extra stress will be eliminated and, personally, I can’t wait. People across this country have no idea what peace of mind this health care law will bring. When it’s fully implemented people will be thanking President Obama for generations.

  10. 13 4morefor44
    July 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    excellent! bypassing the paid propagandists (a.k.a. pundits)…this is how we do it.

  11. 14 amk for obama
    July 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Great thread, ut. TOD’ers should tweet this.

  12. 18 Byo
    July 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Did anyone notice the quality of the questions from the African press at the conference with Pres Zuma as compared to the questions asked by the US press?

    • 19 amk for obama
      July 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm

      Yup, they were more mature and to the point of the visit and of interest to their citizens. US 4th estate is full of two-bit third rate hacks, who are also corrupt to the core to boot.

    • 20 4morefor44
      July 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm

      yes indeed. that happens just about every time president obama travels out of the country, yet the american press people seem completely oblivious to the difference. “news” people at the billionaire-owned channels are paid purely to funnel republican talking points into the public discourse…for at least the last 30 years, they’re not supposed to think and act as journalists, as they are in other countries.

  13. 21 Kyle
    July 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Awesome post, consider it shared on Facebook. its amazing how much PBO was able to accomplish despite having nothing but obstruction and condesencion throw his way.

  14. July 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    This is **epically** brilliant, UT. There aren’t enough thank yous in the world – you’re something else.

  15. July 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Magnificent effort, UT!!! Thank you

  16. 32 betseyc
    July 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    UT, you are a GODDESS! I can’t wait to vote for you for president. (I’m planning to live to 100, but I’m already 62, just to give you a time frame.)

    And I’d like to thank the GOP for naming it Obamacare! How thoughtful of them to insure that it will always be associated with the awesome president who made it happen after a century of failure.

  17. 34 purpleshoesla
    July 3, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Right ON UT!!! Thanks SOOO much for giving us the tools to be productive!!! #WeAreOurOwnMedia :smile:

  18. 36 desertflower
    July 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Fabulous, fabulous post, UT!! Thank you:)

  19. 39 jacquelineoboomer
    July 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    • 42 57andfemale
      July 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      Here’s a great comment from this post:

      “I am a physician, a pediatrician. I have already seen the investment in the pediatric out patient clinics – more money for routine care in underserved areas. We are also monitoring for hospital acquired infections aggressively due to the ACA not compensating hospitals for anything caused by hospitals not observing good practice. Our infection rates have dropped dramatically since implementing the new guidelines. This is good not only for the patients but also for doctors and hospitals. This is one of the best steps in conquering the imperfect nature of our health care system. I remember as a medical student trying to protest Bush from vetoing the SCHIP, spending hours on the phone with insurance company (with some one who is not a doctor) trying to justify a treatment and I am eternally grateful to the President who is putting my patients first and is making my job of caring for them, much much easier. I can already see a difference from pre-ACA to post-ACA and it is much more than just insuring those under 26.”

      • July 3, 2013 at 2:57 pm

        Fantastic testimony!

      • July 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm

        “We are also monitoring for hospital acquired infections aggressively due to the ACA not compensating hospitals for anything caused by hospitals not observing good practice. Our infection rates have dropped dramatically since implementing the new guidelines.”

        Oh ? So Obamacare is also the 21st century Florence Nightingale ?

        • 45 57andfemale
          July 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm

          Well, somebody has to be. How’s the free market health care working out fer ya, America? We don’t need no stinkin’ regulations, do we?

          It’s up to us to get this information out. Only those of us who are engaged know anything about this.

  20. July 3, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    • 47 Mellesia Barnett
      July 3, 2013 at 2:03 pm

      This book seems juicy, I need to get it

      • 48 Mellesia Barnett
        July 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm

        I love this part of the review
        Here’s a sampling of how they came out: In “This Town,” we’re told that Chris Matthews and Matt Lauer have both joked that David Gregory would rub out a few colleagues to advance his career. That Bill and Hillary Clinton are convinced Tim Russert disliked them, and that they’re not wrong. That Luke Russert won’t shake Arianna Huffington’s hand. That Richard Holbrooke once reprimanded an aide to Axelrod while they were side by side at White House urinal. That Harry Reid has “observed privately to colleagues” that John Kerry has no friends. That Bay Buchanan suffered the ultimate spin room indignity last year following the GOP’s South Carolina primary debate, when the only reporter interested in hearing her stump for Romney was a member of the Icelandic press. That West Wing types suspected Valerie Jarrett had “earpiece envy” after Axelrod got Secret Service protection, and so arranged the same for herself. And that when a national-security official suggested that President Obama shouldn’t skip the 2011 White House Correspondents’ Dinner on the weekend of the Osama Bin Laden raid because the press might get suspicious, Hillary Clinton looked up and issued her verdict: “[Expletive] the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.”

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/review-of-mark-leibovichs-this-town/2013/07/03/5d882b8c-de9f-11e2-b94a-452948b95ca8_story_1.html

        • 49 theo67
          July 3, 2013 at 3:49 pm

          I wonder how much of this is true. For example, Valerie Jarrett is almost always by President Obama’s side. She’s surrounded by Secret Service all the time! Why would she have “earpiece envy”?

      • July 3, 2013 at 4:29 pm

        I went to the public Library yesterday and reserved it…. crappy thing about the Library is they get the books about 2 weeks after it’s released. A Buzzfeed reporter found it already for sale at the Newark airport… so I’m sure half the book will be published in internet articles, and blogs before I get a chance to grab my popcorn!

  21. 51 jacquelineoboomer
    July 3, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Amateur video, but the singer – Phoebe Snow – is the pro! Here’s a song that always reminds me of what our country should still be about, and why we formed it! President Obama’s plans and accomplishments to perfect the union epitomize what the founders had in mind, because we sure had and have a lot of perfecting to do since we formed these United States on or about July 4, 1776! It’s because of President Obama and our First Family that we should particularly celebrate this year’s Independence Day … all of us still “yearning to be free” from oppression, which we share with the rest of our world and with what the Obamas have in their beautiful hearts.

  22. 54 Vicki
    July 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    I applaud this entire post, UT and couldn’t agree more.
    Doesn’t matter what the media is screeching—-The voices of 30 million people, their friends and their families will drown out the ignorance.
    Everyone loves a winner and every American who signs up for the ACA is a Winner!
    The RW can lie all they want and it will be of no matter.

  23. July 3, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    I’m officially tired of the Stupid. The world’s only superpower has too significant a portion of its electorate that is willfully stupid. It’s why it’s so hard to get anything done.

    Sorry, I’m just in one of those moods today.

  24. July 3, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    From the BBC:

    Breaking News

    Political roadmap to be announced shortly by the Sheikh of al-Azhar University, key opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei and the Coptic Pope – Egyptian state news agency MENA

    • 58 4morefor44
      July 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm

      hey, maybe the “occupy” people should go over to cairo and show them how to “mic check” since they were so effective here. just a giant “mic check” in tahrir square…that should solve everything. power to the people (as long as “the people” agree with us, that is, then forget it)!!!

  25. 60 Bill
    July 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Murray wins in five sets

  26. 61 57andfemale
    July 3, 2013 at 2:24 pm
  27. July 3, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    this is a great informative post. thank you.

  28. 65 sherijr
    July 3, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    ohh I just learned today that my little granddaughter’s mother is going to become the executive manager implementing “ObamaCare” for the company she works for here in DC. Apparently her job was based on and solely set up to implement Obamacare. Anyway I will email this to her too.. and any news I get from her, I shall pass on here.

    • 66 57andfemale
      July 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm

      We look forward to hearing her insights.

      My best friend is a Human Resources V.P. for an American (yes, American) manufacturing company. She wants single payer like the rest of us, but she believes taking health care responsibility from employers is the best thing that can happen. She understands that the steps need to be gradual but making health care affordable and available for individuals and their families will actually free things up. But it must be affordable, it must be readily available and it has to be sufficiently regulated.

      Businesses make our (very limited) health insurance choices based on all kinds of factors that have nothing to do with health care. She would love to see employers get out of the health care business. She always thought ACA, if allowed to be implemented properly, would be a step in that direction.

  29. 70 4morefor44
    July 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    interesting look inside how “the news” is made.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/activist-shareholders-target-msnbc-comcasts-523269

    i’m always amazed at how these “activists” pay for their activities, since they’re going all over doing this stuff constantly which is really costly. note how the activists are husband and wife? that’s quite the grassroots movement there. it is interesting to see how they just never let up, and hammer, hammer, hammer until they get exactly what they want, so much so that comcast and brian roberts, known teabaggers, seem like the reasonable ones. the pundulum has swung that far to right in recent decades. thank god president obama and his supporters are starting to move it back though. FORWARD!!!!

  30. July 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Michelle Obama: Sasha & Malia Are Briefed Like the President

    By Sandra Sobieraj Westfall

    07/03/2013 at 10:45 AM EDT

    You asked. She answered.

    After taking questions from PEOPLE readers, Michelle Obama revealed that before she and the First Family traveled to Africa, she prepared briefing books for daughters Sasha, 12, and Malia, 14, so they could get the most out of the international traveling experience.

    “We brief them like I’m briefed and like the President is briefed. They get a little packet of material so they understand the history of the country,” Mrs. Obama says in response to a question from Bernadette in Des Moines, Iowa, about how the First Lady prepares her daughters for what they’ll encounter in impoverished countries. She doesn’t shelter them from harsh realities: “I want my girls to get the entire feel of what it means to be in countries that are not the United States.”

    She adds, “I want my kids to be educated and have as much information as they can about the countries that they’re visiting.”

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20714070,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+people%2Fheadlines+%28PEOPLE.com%3A+Top+Headlines%29

  31. 74 4morefor44
    July 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    one can simply identify as a liberal or democrat, and not have this problem.

    • 75 Bill
      July 3, 2013 at 3:01 pm

      What are the three ideological camps Joy defines? tea party, libertarian, and emoprogs? or something else? Thanks.

      • 76 4morefor44
        July 3, 2013 at 3:11 pm

        i was guessing republican, libertarian, emoprogs. i don’t really consider emoprogs “left” though. they’re more of a libertarian/liberal hybrid, which leans more on the libertarian side. any true leftist knows the value of what president obama is doing and the importance of actually accomplishing things in order to move things back to the left after all these decades of a rightward drift. just a matter of time as the white male stranglehold of power continues to be loosened anyway based on demographics and new media. what we can do though is make it happen faster and faster, which can reduce suffering for millions of people across the globe the faster we accomplish it.

  32. July 3, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    The Southern Strategy is still alive
    by smartypants

    Here’s how Kevin Phillips described the Southern Strategy in 1970.

    From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are.

    And here’s Brit Hume’s revised version.

    Benjy Sarlin lays it out for us.

    After November’s stunning loss, an array of influential Republicans argued that immigration reform was the party’s best chance to claim Latino voters before they become permanent Democrats. But in a mere eight months, a counter-narrative has taken hold in conservative circles, nurtured by a shrewd group of anti-immigration lobbyists and Tea Party enthusiasts. The new argument sees immigration reform at best as a divisive distraction from the GOP’s real problem of countering “white flight” from the polls.

    …………………………………………

    This time they’re trying to gin up the racist/misogynist white vote by going after abortion, voting rights and immigration reform. Its a play based on desperation. I’m hoping it backfires enormously!

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-southern-strategy-is-still-alive.html

    • 78 Nena20409
      July 3, 2013 at 3:26 pm

      Hence their continued march to pass laws to suppress votes and voters. They are also are still interested in Electoral College split into Gerrymandering type format. Who is going to stop them? Certainly not the Robert’s Court. And so long as Boehner and the TBGOPers control the House and 24 of the states have TBGOPers Governors and Legislatures……why not? Look at what is happening in NJ where Dems control the legislature…..they act like they are the minority.

  33. 79 57andfemale
    July 3, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    • July 3, 2013 at 3:09 pm

      No one should be surprised. The fact that the man has a high approval rating just evidences for me that intelligence in America has literally flown the coop.

      • 81 yardarm756
        July 3, 2013 at 3:33 pm

        To tell the truth FayPax, there is increasing evidence it wasn’t there to begin with! :-(

      • 82 57andfemale
        July 3, 2013 at 3:35 pm

        There are days teh stoopid really gets to me……

      • 83 4morefor44
        July 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm

        well, we did elect president obama twice, by wide margins. i know those of us who are older are tired from all these decades of fighting these same fights, but you can’t let “the news” people get you down. there’s plenty of smart people, especially in younger generations, who get it, and they/we are taking over from the white male stranglehold. it’s just a matter of when now.

  34. July 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    I expect rockets from Gaza to be landing in Israel within 24hrs if this is what pans out…..

  35. July 3, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    According to unconfirmed sources, the Egyptian military has told Morsi that he’s no longer President.

    • July 3, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      Live Blog

      Reports: Army tells Morsi he is no longer president

      Army-backed plan to include transition period followed by elections; Morsi urges Egyptians to resist ‘military coup,’ after offering to form unity government and amend constitution; at least two dozen killed since demonstrations began, including at least 16 dead and more than 200 wounded in Cairo clashes.

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/morsi-vows-to-stay-in-office-as-egyptian-army-deadline-nears-1.533509

      • 88 57andfemale
        July 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm

        Did Fox and msnbc tear themselves away from the Zimmerman trial to cover this? I guess CNN got the memo that, you know, important shit was happening in the world and started covering it an hour or so ago.

        And we wonder why we’re stupid. The press is not supposed to follow the lowest common denominator. It’s supposed to show us what’s important and INFORM.

        • July 3, 2013 at 4:15 pm

          I don’t know what those idiots are doing. I’m following a quasi Live blog on Haaretz. I can’t stomach the news anymore.

          • 90 57andfemale
            July 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

            I’m a basket case of emotions today. I’m frustrated, I’m angry, I’m hopeful, I’m fighting, I want to hide under the bed with a bottle of rum…… It’s way too much to feel for one day.

  36. 92 Gazelle
    July 3, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Al J has amazing coverage of the scene in Egypt. Morsi is out, constitution suspended, Chief Justice = interim pres.

  37. 93 MightyPamela
    July 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Hey y’all! Long time to catch up to here, hope everyone is well. My dear little kitty is quite unwell, hoping it is not too serious. In honor of the 40th anniversary of my Mother passing 4 July 1973, I’ve decided to be offline and stay quiet, will be back in a couple days! Hugs all around, enjoy the holiday, and thank you forever! Namaste, to each and everyone! {{{{{{Chipsticks}}}}}} {{{{{{PBO}}}}}} {{{{{{TOD}}}}}} :lol: :lol:
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PBO

    • 94 theo67
      July 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm

      {{{{MightyPamela}}}} Take care of yourself. Sounds like you’ve got a lot of emotional stuff to deal with right now. We’ll be here when you get back.

  38. 95 Nena20409
    July 3, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    GA TODers……Great Post UT.

    Wow…..I have been uninformed for all that has been going on…….Now The Military are in Charge in Egypt and Morsi is No Longer the pres of Egypt? Holy Pyramid.

    • July 3, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      That’s the news I’ve been focusing on today. Major shit happening there. It would be so nice if the US media would cover it. It’s not like Egypt sits astride oil shipping lanes, or anything.

      • 97 Nena20409
        July 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm

        So CNN, MSNBC, CNNI are not covering this? Are they still on the Zimmerman trial? You have Al Jazeera English/American and BBC…..they must be covering these stories?

        I pray that there are No Civil War to breakout in Egypt. That would be truly the worst outcome.

        • July 3, 2013 at 3:35 pm

          BBC and AJ are all over it.

          I’m going home for lunch so I’ll tune in and see if any of our esteemed news outlets are covering the coup, but I won’t be surprised if they’re not.

          • 99 57andfemale
            July 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm

            I heard that CNN deigned to cover it about an hour ago, while Fox and msnbc were still covering the Zimmerman trial. I’m at work and can’t check it out. I’m relying on twitter reports.

            There is no adequate news coverage in this country. I hope AJ-America does not disappoint. It is phenomenal that we cannot get one decent American news network.

            • July 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm

              I mean, I was watching the BBC last night before I went to bed, and they did a segment on how oil was at $102 a barrel SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF EGYPT. The traders are worried that the country will descend into chaos and civil war, and that the Suez Canal will be cut off. This is a big fucking deal, both for us and our allies. But it doesn’t sell Viagra.

              I swear, this is why I need a break. The stupid virus is especially strong this summer.

              • 101 57andfemale
                July 3, 2013 at 3:53 pm

                I’m with you. There are days I just want to hide from it all. This is indeed a BFD, but let’s not let it get in the way of sexy murder trials and reality TV.

                But we’re supposed to trust the American people with every bit of classified info we have, right? We regulate women in the name of ‘safety’, but proliferation of guns is the ‘American Way’.

                I’m effing exhausted today.

              • 102 Betsy
                July 3, 2013 at 9:14 pm

                Hey LL, you live sort of near me, what TV station is BBC?

                • July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm

                  Well, it’s not on TV. I have a Google TV device in both the living room and bedroom; I navigate to streamago.tv, and they have a stream of BBC World. A few cable companies carry BBC World in the states, but mine doesn’t.

      • 105 jackiegrumbacher
        July 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm

        LL, if it takes more than two brain cells to report a story, requires an ounce of energy and doesn’t involve the tea party, it’s not worth the bother of the American media. The billionaire media owners don’t want to tax the intelligence of American viewers, so they keep them ignorant and in the dark. Information is power, after all, so we can’t have the riffraff knowing things. I’s seen documentaries of WWII on the home front where families kept maps with pins on the wall, so they could locate the site of battles and follow the complex European, Pacific and African war theaters. That kind of attention to a world situation would be unthinkable in today’s America.

  39. 107 amk for obama
    July 3, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Egyptian army suspends constitution

    The head of the Egyptian army has appeared live on television, announcing the suspension of the constitution.

    General Abdul Fattah Al-Sisi, flanked by religious and military leaders, said the chief justice of constitutional court would take the powers of the presidency.

    His announcement means President Mohammed Morsi is no longer in power.

    Anti-Morsi protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square gave out a huge cheer in response to the speech.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23173794

  40. 108 yardarm756
    July 3, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    OT. Thought for today.

    • 109 Nena20409
      July 3, 2013 at 3:32 pm

      If Majority are not cool with the ruling……how is it a mixed feelings. Majority is 50.01% HP is tripping, hard.

    • 110 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      This is exactly right, yardarm. The conservative justices showed us what they are made of and it’s an ugly sight.

  41. 111 amk for obama
    July 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm
    • 112 57andfemale
      July 3, 2013 at 3:42 pm

      I’m always uneasy about throwing out democratic processes,. However, I have Coptic Christian friends with family in Egypt and the elections were rigged and virtually impossible for everyone to vote, or feel safe about voting. It’s been bad.

    • 113 sherijr
      July 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm

      my question is about the military there.. is it trustworthy? Whats to stop them from just keeping power? Is this General going to be a good thing.. ?

  42. 114 Dakota
    July 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    I just saw over at the Grio that Tweety is having a book signing at the Essence Music Festival on July 5th at the Blueberry Pie Cafe around 10am. This just fries me. I hope people line up to tell his warped ass off. I guess I should mention that Joy Reid will be there also later in the day. I hope people line up to tell her what a great job she’s doing.

  43. 115 Bill
    July 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    MSNBC has their crack Egyptian expert, Toure, handling their broadcast.

  44. 122 Nena20409
    July 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Crude oil is $102 a barrell? Egypt is not known for Crude Oil exporter…….yet the price went Up?

  45. 126 Bill
    July 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Former Amb. Marc Ginsburg on MSNBC thinks PBO is still in Africa. He said Susan Rice in DC would be in touch with him.

    • 127 57andfemale
      July 3, 2013 at 3:43 pm

      So they pry themselves away from the Zimmerman trial to cover Egypt, and this is the best they can do?

      Explain to me why they should have ANY viewers.

      • 128 Nena20409
        July 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm

        Remember 57andfemale…….BREAKING News is Not what they do……Phil Griffin said just weeks ago.

        • 129 57andfemale
          July 3, 2013 at 3:57 pm

          and so goes their ratings. When your chief of political news whines that he’s tired after being with the President in Africa, they serve no purpose. None whatsoever.

          I haven’t watched their prime time line-up in months. I click there every once in awhile to see Hayes flaying his arms and interviewing Dave Sirota, and Rachel whining about DRONES while helping RWNJ’s get back in power.

          I’ll watch NCIS re-runs rather than that poor excuse for news. Thank you, Bill Clinton, for the Telecom bill.

          You know NCIS – where every crime is solved because of access to phone records and GPS or credit card purchases or surveillance cameras? Americans can no longer process two thoughts at the same time.

          • 130 Betsy
            July 3, 2013 at 9:25 pm

            I LOVE NCIS :)

            • 131 57andfemale
              July 4, 2013 at 12:22 pm

              So do I. So do the idiots who are screaming that all spying is evil, when there wouldn’t be a crime solved on NCIS (or any of the crime shows) without access to phone records, surveillance, emails, foreign communications, etc. The lack of intellectual honesty is maddening.

    • 132 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      Well, Bill, words fail me. This confirms what we’ve all known for a long time. People on TOD are far better informed than any news commenter in the media. It would have taken Ginsburg seconds to get accurate information on this.

  46. 134 Nena20409
    July 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Unfortunately, the growing pains of Democracy when those trying to govern are ill equipped to govern.

    • 135 theo67
      July 3, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      I agree with you, Nena. When Israel was attacking the Gaza strip last year, Morsi negotiated that cease fire with an enormous amount of help from President Obama, who was currently on an international trip. And then President Obama praised Morsi’s level-headedness. Morsi could have taken that success and run with it, leveraged that popularity and support from President Obama to do good for his people. Instead, he immediately started his shenanigans with the Constitution, and started a swift decline that led to this day. He chose his path, unfortunately.

  47. 136 4morefor44
    July 3, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    the american “news” is waiting for orders on how exactly republicans want to spin the egypt developments as negatively as possible toward president obama. rest assured, when they do start covering soon, all channels will have the same storyline, and it’ll all be about how president obama screwed it all up. guaranteed. we must starve the beast that is currently “the news” in america.

    • 137 57andfemale
      July 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      Unfortunately, you’re right.

    • 138 Bill
      July 3, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      Most of the comments on HP blame PBO for the overthrow.

    • 139 theo67
      July 3, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      President Obama has no fingerprints on Morsi’s decline or the actions taken by the Egyptian military – so, it will be up to us to remind people of those facts when the GOP-led media starts their nonsense.

  48. 140 utaustinliberal
    July 3, 2013 at 3:47 pm
  49. 142 57andfemale
    July 3, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    This is interesting. How about some promising news:

    [The two] patients in Boston who had bone-marrow transplants for blood cancers have apparently been virus-free for weeks since their antiretroviral drugs were stopped, researchers at an international AIDS conference announced Wednesday.
    The patients’ success echoes that of Timothy Ray Brown, the famous “Berlin patient” who has shown no signs of resurgent virus in the five years since he got a bone-marrow transplant from a donor with a rare mutation conferring resistance to H.I.V.

  50. 143 Nena20409
    July 3, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Mubarak must be Gleeful in a way……unfortunately……he predicted chaos. He did NOTHING to build political infrastructure. Now…..if Egypt decimates……..what a shame.

    • 144 theo67
      July 3, 2013 at 4:15 pm

      That’s not going to happen. People have to be patient with these new democracies. When the US gained independence, it had a President assassinated, a civil war and generations of racist policies to overcome – and dozens other issues. The road was not smooth. We have to let these fledgling democracies evolve at their own pace, and there will be bumps and mistakes. More advanced democracies need to help, not judge. I mean, just look at what kind of perversion of democracy is happening right now in US state legislatures – 200 years after independence!

      • July 3, 2013 at 4:54 pm

        Very well-said, theo. Very well-said!

      • 146 Nena20409
        July 3, 2013 at 8:05 pm

        Abraham Lincoln was the first president to be assassinated. He was shot in the back of the head by John Wilkes Booth on April 14, 1865.[6] Sixteen years later, on September 19, 1881, President James A. Garfield was assassinated by Charles Julius Guiteau.[7] Nearly twenty years after that, President William McKinley died from complications after being shot twice by Leon Czolgosz.[8] President Warren G. Harding suffered a heart attack, and died on August 2, 1923. From Wikipedia.

        Our Nation started in 1776. Lincoln was assassinated almost one hundred yrs later. Civil War was in the early 1860s.

        I agree that people need to be patient. They also need to know what they want…….Not just what they do not want. Election has consequences. For next yrs, if a Muslim Brotherhood is not elected…..what is it to stop them from mobilizing and using these same methods and outst that person.

        I wish Egypt well. I just want them to know that before they outst a duly elected leader, that could come back and hunt them in the future.

        • July 3, 2013 at 8:50 pm

          I think that in these modern times, people do not have patience and there is the Greed/Religious factor. America was formed by well educated people and our populations were small compared to today. It is my opinion that there are too many young people who are unemployed and have been ruled under a dictorship that they just did not want another one to take hold in hopes they can vote them out when these power hungry folks get into power they don’t give it up (see the GOP). I applaud them that they will not tolerate a President that promises one thing then does the opposite. Americans always felt politicians lie, that’s normal and we can vote them out. This new breed of GOP lie to get into office, does the opposite, then make sure you can’t vote them out.

  51. 148 Jewelz
    July 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Lack of patience is ultimately one of the major downfalls of mankind.


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