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  1. 2 misspat
    July 17, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Hello there am I first? First in my life first?

  2. 3 misspat
    July 17, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I guess not. I will take second?

  3. 5 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Look at those cute little baby faces:) I could just squeeze some cheeks!

  4. 6 Eveingeorgia
    July 17, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I know, right? And PBO is just too cute. He just is.

  5. 7 utaustinliberal
    July 17, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Hahahahahaha…it kinda looks like Pres. Obama is photobombing Richard Cordray. Nice picture.

  6. 9 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    T H E B O S S!!!!!

    http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/07/17/2315381/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-american-skin-41-shots-to-the-us-for-justice-for-trayvon-martin/

    During his concert in Limerick, Ireland last night, Bruce Springsteen dedicated “American Skin (41 Shots),” a song he debuted in 2000 about the February 4, 1999 shooting of Amadou Diallo by four plainclothes New York City police officers, as “a letter back home…for justice for Trayvon Martin.” If you haven’t heard the song before, part of what’s chilling about hearing it again in this context is that the lyrics, which describe a black woman talking to her child about how not to get killed by the police, remain as applicable now as they were a decade and a half ago. When Springsteen sings “Lena gets her son ready for school / She says ‘On these streets, Charles / You’ve got to understand the rules / If an officer stops you, / promise me you’ll always be polite / And that you’ll never ever run away / Promise Mama you’ll keep your hands in sight,’” he could be quoting Levar Burton explaining the tactics he uses to try to avoid a deadly outcome during traffic stops by the police.

    • 10 ericfive
      July 17, 2013 at 1:19 pm

      Love Bruce. He stayed true to Dems when he could have easily sold out. He stopped Reagan from using his music at rallies. My kind of rock star.

      • 11 desertflower
        July 17, 2013 at 1:23 pm

        Love him too….damn great concert, I might add:) If you haven’t seen him live…put that on the bucket list!

  7. 12 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    And this: For Trayvon

  8. July 17, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Finally, Marcia Krieger, a U.S. district court judge in Colorado, refrained from issuing an injunction last week to block enforcement of the Rocky Mountain state’s new regulation banning gun magazines holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition. Krieger said an injunction was unnecessary after opponents of the law reached a compromise with the state about how the ban would be enforced.

    None of these decisions individually represent huge setbacks for opponents of gun control. But, with George Zimmerman’s acquittal and the failure of Congress to pass the Manchin-Toomey background check legislation, they do serve to rebut the prevailing narrative that gun control advocates in the United States are doomed to fail.

  9. July 17, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    If Republicans in the House of Representatives vote against the immigration reform legislation that was recently approved by the Senate — or if they prevent it from coming to a vote at all — they will lose the presidential election in 2016. It will not even matter who their candidate is…….
    Perhaps Boehner wants to be the Hispanic community’s new villain — to replace the loathed Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz. But does he really want to join the ranks of infamous anti-immigration legislators like former California Gov. Pete Wilson, former Rep. Tom Tancredo, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer and Sen. Ted Cruz? We’ll see.

    • 15 57andfemale
      July 17, 2013 at 1:47 pm

      They can’t think at all – but if they think that the only issue concerning the Hispanic vote is immigration, they are sorely mistaken. Poll after poll in 2012 showed that jobs, education and health care matter a great deal to the Hispanic voter. So this one issue – even if they did the right thing which I sincerely doubt they will – will not be enough.

  10. July 17, 2013 at 1:00 pm

  11. 17 Linda
    July 17, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    New statement from juror B-37 since 4 other jurors came out not agreeing with what she said on CNN

    ” No more interview and No book deal “

  12. July 17, 2013 at 1:04 pm

  13. 20 utaustinliberal
    July 17, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    • 21 Linda
      July 17, 2013 at 1:17 pm

      Ridiculous………

    • 22 jacquelineoboomer
      July 17, 2013 at 2:19 pm

      CVS Corporate Plan for 2013

      1. Take a stand on a magazine cover, any cover.

      2. See ya next year.

    • 23 Jax6655
      July 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm

      And here I was, having just moved to a new city, worried that they only have a few CVS stores. This takes that worry away. Hello Walgreen’s!

      • 24 utaustinliberal
        July 17, 2013 at 3:39 pm

        I don’t think you understood the tweet. CVS will not sell the Rolling Stone copies. There’s no need for a boycott.

  14. July 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    • 26 desertflower
      July 17, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      The only people that will believe this malarky are the ones that do already. If anything, they talk too much and will be slapped down hard for this little voice of propaganda. Most people are sick to death of the NRA lies….maybe, if we’re all lucky, they will push themselves right over the edge of the cliff.

  15. 28 vitaminlover
    July 17, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    If my beloved President chooses someone for a position I am automatically for that person. Call me an OBAMABOT. I wear that badge proudly.

    • 29 theo67
      July 17, 2013 at 2:28 pm

      I wear that badge proudly, too. He’s proven that he has sound judgement, and he’s working hard for the people. He’s a serious person, out to do serious work for the country and people he so clearly loves – despite the nastiness he often gets back in return. If President Obama trusts his legacy of work to someone, then I’m inclined to believe that person is the right one for the job. He’s earned my trust.

    • 30 jacquelineoboomer
      July 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm

      I’m in! Totally. I fully trust our President. “He sure can pick ‘em.”

      Also, ever notice there hasn’t been even one “scandal” connected to either our President or any member of his administration since he won his first Presidential election? Nobody’s come out and written a “behind-the-scenes” book against him, etc. Even his former rival Hillary Clinton worked in total support of his policies while SOS, and quietly carried out her role, which is saying something.

      #NoDramaObama

    • 31 Lynn
      July 17, 2013 at 3:56 pm

      And I wear that badge with you, VL!!

    • 32 nathkatun7
      July 17, 2013 at 5:19 pm

      Vitaminlover, I am with you 100%! So far, all his appointments have been superb!

  16. 33 dotster3
    July 17, 2013 at 1:10 pm

      • 35 Layla
        July 17, 2013 at 1:28 pm

        Hey Chips, is it just me or is Mark showing some respect for PBO in his tweets lately….

        • July 17, 2013 at 1:31 pm

          Hiya Layla, I don’t look at his stuff on Twitter anymore, trying to look after my blood pressure (!), but from the ones I see posted here, methinks you’re right – he’s less shill-ish in them than he used to be. Not sure about the ones I don’t see, though!

        • 37 jacquelineoboomer
          July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm

          I just tweeted him a little thank you for actually giving us some “news” about the President. Credit where credit is due. Plus, he’s like a big ol’ baby who occasionally needs a pat on the head as a reward for not playing out in the street.

    • 39 lockewasright
      July 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

      I hope he says straight to the cameras that Congress is blocking funding to let the american people know about their new benefits because they’re afraid of what happens once people know the law’s contents instead of the propaganda its opponents spread.

  17. 40 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Yup. Poor Bastards…but a definite victory for the American people!

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/07/the-cordray-cave-is-causing-spasms.html

  18. 41 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    :) :) More goodness!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/17/the-world-bank-cuts-off-funding-for-coal-how-much-impact-will-that-have/

    Last month, the Obama administration announced that it would cut off most funding for coal plants overseas. Now, in a major shift, the World Bank is doing the same.

    On Tuesday, the World Bank Group announced that it would restrict funding for new coal plants in developing countries except “in rare circumstances” — say, in poorer nations that have no good alternatives.
    Instead, the bank, which financed some $52.6 billion worth of infrastructure projects last year, will focus on scaling up cleaner natural gas and hydroelectric dams in order to deliver electricity to hundreds of millions of people around the world who still don’t have it.

    I love this man. Love him. Love him. Love him!

  19. 42 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/07/17/19523182-the-biggest-obstacle-to-a-stronger-economic-recovery

    The Federal Reserve’s chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, said Wednesday that Congress is the largest obstacle to faster economic growth, and he warned that upcoming decisions about fiscal policy could once again undermine the nation’s recovery.

    “The economic recovery has continued at a moderate pace in recent quarters despite the strong headwinds created by federal fiscal policy,” Mr. Bernanke said in the opening line of his prepared remarks to a Congressional committee.

    Moreover, he said, Congress could make things worse later this year. “The risks remain that tight federal fiscal policy will restrain economic growth over the next few quarters by more than we currently expect, or that the debate concerning other fiscal policy issues, such as the status of the debt ceiling, will evolve in a way that could hamper the recovery,” he said.

  20. 43 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    John Oliver….

  21. July 17, 2013 at 1:38 pm

  22. 51 desertflower
    July 17, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Off to go tutor….later!

  23. 52 yardarm756
    July 17, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Subj: ANOTHER JOKE

    There was a man sitting at a bar, and he looks over at the gentleman sitting next to him and says, “Hey, you look familiar.

    Are you from around here?” The man answers, “Yeah, I live down the street.”

    “No kidding?” says the first man, “Well, so do I. And hey, you look about my age. Where did you go to high school?”

    “Oh I went to Francis Lewis over on Utopia. Graduated in ’66.

    How ’bout you?”

    “Get out. I went to Francis Lewis. And I graduated in ’66, too.” “Where’d you go to college?”

    “Beloit, in Wisconsin.”

    “No way! I went to Beloit too. What dorm?”

    “Kevin Sullivan dorm.”

    “Sullivan? You’re not going to believe this . . .”

    Joe the bartender walks over, and the first guy says, “Joe, you won’t believe it in a million years. This guy went to the same

    high school as me, graduated the same year I did, and went to the same college. We were even in the same dorm. Isn’t that amazing?”

    Joe looks at them both and says, “Yeah, that’s just plain amazing.”

    A third man comes in and says, “Hey Joe. What’s new?” Joe says, “Not much. The Johnson twins are drunk again.”

    • 53 Layla
      July 17, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      Customer: “I can’t seem to connect to the Internet.”
      Tech Support: “Ah, right. What operating system are you running?”
      Customer: “Netscape.”
      Tech Support: “No, what version of Windows are you using?”
      Customer: “Uhhh…Hewlett Packard?”
      Tech Support: “No, Right click on ‘My Computer,’ and select properties on the menu.”
      Customer: “Your computer? It’s my computer!”

    • 55 lockewasright
      July 17, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      One of my best friends is from Beloit.

  24. 57 dotster3
    July 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Moms Demand Action is targeting Starbucks for allowing guns in their stores. Starbucks bans smoking within 25 ft. of their stores, but anyone can waltz in there with a gun any day, any time. Isn’t that utter stupidity?

  25. 62 Jovie
    July 17, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    The EPA is now called the bill Clinton federal building!
    Because why?

      • 64 Layla
        July 17, 2013 at 2:36 pm

        The William Jefferson Clinton Federal Building is located in the Federal Triangle in Washington, D.C., across 12th Street from the Old Post Office. The New Post Office, as the Clinton Building was originally known, housed the headquarters of the Post Office Department until that department was replaced by the United States Postal Service in 1971. The building, which now houses the headquarters of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, was renamed on February 5, 1985, in honor of Ariel Rios, an undercover special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who was killed in the line of duty on December 2, 1982. The federal government renamed the building for former President Bill Clinton on May 13, 2013. wiki

  26. 67 elo4obama/biden
    July 17, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Some idiot at the WH presser today brought up the death threats Zimmerman and his family have been getting. He wanted to know if the president was going to help them with their security. My mouth fell open, Jay responded that the president would continue to call for calm just at Trayvon Martin’s parents have. There was a little more that I did not hear, and a question with the response that the “reporter” should write what he wants to as Jay was sure he would.

    Can you believe the flippin nerve though! I think he (they) are looking for words of comfort for GZ. I hope he does not know a moments peace on this earth unless he ever truly repents of what his actions set in motion. He was a racist bigot looking for an opportunity to use his gun. This sorry behind jury can keep talking they just look worse and worse. Their bias and bigotry is on display and becomes more apparent as clues they ignored become better known. You can not just look at he was afraid and used his gun. You must look at his actions right before, let alone to know on previous occasions he “policed” the area calling out all “suspicious” black folk.

    • 68 0388jojothecat
      July 17, 2013 at 2:12 pm

      I would have said, “Why? he got his gun back didn’t he?

    • 73 anniebella
      July 17, 2013 at 3:17 pm

      Zimmerman dad is a former judge, I’m sure he has money and he knows people in high places, plus the right wing haters could provide people to look after Zimmerman, or he can get his gun and protect his self. He is a neighborhood watchman, watch his own self. Those WH press is so dam stupid, it’s not POTUS job to protect George Zimmerman.

  27. July 17, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    California is doing something about the Koch Brothers.

    Exclusive: California Grand Jury Probing Shadowy Money Groups
    by Peter H. Stone Jul 17, 2013 1:16 PM EDT
    A California grand jury has been convened in a probe that began when a PAC didn’t close the sources of its spending, as required by California law.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/17/exclusive-california-grand-jury-probing-shadowy-money-groups.html

  28. 77 Bill R.
    July 17, 2013 at 2:17 pm

  29. 78 jacquelineoboomer
    July 17, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    From the top photo, I’d say Director Cordray seems nice, but maybe he should get an adult haircut now? Just a thought. :)

    • 79 theo67
      July 17, 2013 at 2:33 pm

      :) His haircut isn’t preventing him from kicking serious corporate butts – but, your point is well taken…

      • 80 jacquelineoboomer
        July 17, 2013 at 2:41 pm

        Yes!

        But maybe he should spring for a big-boy haircut at a D.C. barber shop, now! #CallTheLimo

          • 82 carolyn
            July 17, 2013 at 4:25 pm

            Cordray has hair like mine. It’s soft and fine, and just goes where it wants to. It is hard to style without a perm or bleach for body…neither of which I imagine is on his agenda! I have many more options for mine.

  30. July 17, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    CSPAN link to President Obama’s comments re: Richard Cordray

    http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?id=10737440512

  31. July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    CSPAN link to Samantha Power’s Senate Confirmation hearing

    http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?id=10737440490

  32. 87 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    [These effers need to be booted out pronto! Come on now! Again?!]:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans pressed ahead Wednesday on delaying key components of President Barack Obama’s signature health care law, emboldened by the administration’s concession that requiring companies to provide coverage for their workers next year may be too complicated.

    The House has scheduled votes later Wednesday to delay the law’s individual and employer mandates, the 38th time the GOP majority has tried to eliminate, defund or scale back the program since Republicans took control of the House in January 2011.

    The votes were a chance to score political points and highlight public skepticism over the law. The House legislation is going nowhere in the Democratic-controlled Senate, and the administration said emphatically Tuesday the president would veto the measures.

    [.....] Rep. Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y., said Republicans weren’t simply trying to delay the requirements. ‘‘It is their intention to destroy the Affordable Care Act … to do away with it, to annihilate it entirely,’’ Crowley said.

    He said the ‘‘the definition of insanity … is doing something 38 times and still getting the same results.’’

    .
    More here: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2013/07/17/house-gop-seek-delay-health-care-provisions/6yNKGNZaUjXhIoua4ygUVN/story.html

    • 88 Layla
      July 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm

      I think the American people need to be made aware of the price tag attached to all of this along with all of Issa’s stupid investigations. It should be published out there for everyone to see! Deficit hawks my a….

      • 89 Gazelle
        July 17, 2013 at 2:57 pm

        Exactly! That’s a label they bestowed upon themselves then, lo & behold & contrary to facts, people actually believed the shit. Voters need to take their heads out of the sand.

  33. 90 amk for obama
    July 17, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    It will be inneresting to watch chips and ut when ruiney transfers to the blues. Will they be turning on a dime ? Or cursing their bad luck? :)

  34. 91 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    [Hoo boy! Kick the Turtle out, I say! Smelling a little turtle fear!]:

    [.....] McConnell’s campaign made payments to 20 different consulting firms over the last three months, the filings show, including to nine different fundraisers, three separate media firms and two Republican web consulting outfits. He’s hired some of the biggest Republican names in the business — Harris Media, Metzner Media, FLS Connect and Engage LLC, to name a few — in advance of what could be a difficult re-election bid against Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes. [.....]

    .

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/hotlineoncall/2013/07/mitch-mcconnell-s-20-consultants-17

  35. 92 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Massachusetts Democratic Party Chairman John E. Walsh’s decision to leave his post to lead Governor’s Deval Patrick’s political action committee fanned the flames of speculation that the Commonwealth’s chief executive might be taking a look at higher office.

    But Patrick on Tuesday was clear: he is not running to succeed President Obama.
    “I am not running for president in 2016,” Patrick told reporters at UMass Boston, according to a transcript of his comments provided by his office.

    “I’m going to finish this second term, I’m going to go back into the private sector. And as Diane, my wife says, pay some attention to our family and friends while they are still willing have us pay some attention,” he said.
    Patrick said that Walsh, a close political adviser, indicated that he wanted the governor to make a bid for the White House. But, Patrick said, “he doesn’t get to make that decision.”

    The governor explained that going forward, his political action committee will focus on grassroots politics and helping people who are not career politicians get involved in the political process.

    “I am interested in people who are willing to run, willing to lose. Meaning they actually believe in something and are willing to put it on the line,” he said. “…We want to support that, both here in the Commonwealth and elsewhere in the country where we can,” he added.

    .
    More here: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/07/16/patrick-says-not-running-for-president/yIAJSe0SBsPQgK599lmY8K/story.html

    • 93 lisalovesobama
      July 17, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      Deval P and Wendy Davis are the two people I’m passionately behind when it comes to seeking higher office. Two people I can see eventually becoming president.

      • 94 theo67
        July 17, 2013 at 3:48 pm

        Not every good person needs to run for President. We need these people to run for every level of office, so we can stack up the good people to fight against all the not-good people that the GOP have been stacking into every level of office for the past 40 years.

        That said, I think the world of these two people, as well. They are real public servants.

      • 95 Gazelle
        July 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm

        Yes! I loved this: “I am interested in people who are willing to run, willing to lose. Meaning they actually believe in something and are willing to put it on the line,” he said.

  36. 96 jacquelineoboomer
    July 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    I just cannot allow even the Democrats in Congress who voted for ObamaCare to take full credit. I cannot. :)

    • 97 theo67
      July 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      I don’t blame you. Where have these congress people been in supporting ObamaCare this whole time. This bill has been law for years, and the only voices we consistently hear are President Obama defending it, or the entire GOP opposing it. They can’t just enjoy the good times, and be absent during the bad times.

      • 98 57andfemale
        July 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm

        If the Dem’s had been behind this law and sung its praises like Medicare and Social Security when enacted, we never would have had the 2010 debacle. Very few cheered it as they should have.

  37. 99 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    [This sounds messy to me. Why aren't they divorced?]:

    [.....] Mr. Spitzer’s attempted comeback has coincided with a difficult time for his marriage — the couple are currently living in separate apartments 18 blocks apart. Five years after Mr. Spitzer resigned as governor amid a prostitution scandal, friends say Ms. Wall Spitzer is deeply conflicted about her husband’s candidacy, offering assent but privately preferring he had not chosen to run.

    “To be honest, she’d probably rather he didn’t do it,” said Karen Finerman, a longtime friend of the couple whose new book was feted by Ms. Wall Spitzer at a party last month. “It opens up a whole chapter that was a difficult chapter,” Ms. Finerman added. “But it is not in her nature to say to him, ‘No, you can’t.’ ”

    Besides inviting uncomfortable questions on the trail, Ms. Wall Spitzer’s absence has deprived Mr. Spitzer, a Democrat, of the ally who could most potently make the case to voters that he has been rehabilitated: the woman whose ashen face at her husband’s resignation announcement remains a searing symbol of his ignominious downfall. [.....]

    .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/nyregion/in-spitzers-comeback-campaign-a-once-fervent-advocate-isnt-at-his-side.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2&

    • 100 Layla
      July 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      I do not like this man. When he had his show on CNN he kept bashing POTUS!

      • 101 nospin
        July 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        yes he did

      • 102 57andfemale
        July 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm

        Spitzer could have been great. He fought the right battles as Attorney General and could have done great things. I do not understand these men who let power go to their heads and ruin it all.

        His bashing of PBO on his awful TV show felt to me like jealousy more than anything else. I think I could have given him a pass if he wanted to go back into public service, except for the petty jealousy he showed on his show. God knows, Republicans are never disgraced enough to leave and we have to put up with them, so I’m willing to make some excuses for Dem’s who seem to be held to different standards than Republicans. But it was Spitzer’s pettiness that makes me question if he could ever really do any good.

        Weiner is a loudmouth who wants a soapbox and a spotlight. He doesn’t think, he’s a hothead, and I question his commitment to good governance.

        Ultimately the people of the city of New York will decide. I just don’t want another Republican, certainly not in NY.

    • 103 lisalovesobama
      July 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      Why is he coming back? Nobody wants him, or Weiner. Two of the most disgusting people associated with the Democratic Party, and not for the reasons they got kicked out of politics in the first place.

  38. 104 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    [Karma came for you, ugly man! More to come! :)]:

    Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, the anti-abortion Republican physician accused of encouraging his wife and mistress to have multiple abortions, raised just $39,000 in the second quarter, according to his most recent report to the Federal Election Commission. It’s a paltry sum for an incumbent member and signals more trouble for his re-election prospects in 2014.

    DesJarlais’ weak fundraising quarter and measly $88,000 in cash on hand casts doubt on whether he can run a competitive campaign against two well-funded Republican primary challengers. His 4th District is the state’s largest and most expensive congressional district in which to run a television campaign.

    .

    http://atr.rollcall.com/desjarlais-poor-fundraising-casts-doubt-on-re-election-tn04/

  39. 105 Mellesia Barnett
    July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm

  40. 106 Gazelle
    July 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    [Effers in the House. On Immigration]:

    [.....] * The new plan would take the provisional legal status and right to work granted to the undocumented at the outset and reconfigure it as “probation.” The plan would require undocumented immigrants to admit having broken U.S. laws and admit guilt (in a civil sense), and enter into a probationary phase, during which they’d have very similar legal rights to the ones they would have under the provisional legal status in the Senate bill.

    This concession is designed to help Republicans embrace comprehensive reform. It is meant to give Republicans a response to the charge of “amnesty” — the claim that a path to citizenship will reward lawbreakers — by instead requiring the undocumented to take themselves out of the shadows, admit wrongdoing, and put themselves on a species of probation.

    * The plan would put in place a new trigger involving E-Verify that would be required to end that period of “probation.” The plan would stipulate that E-Verify — the system to allow businesses to determine eligibility to work in the U.S. — must be fully operational after five years. If it isn’t, all of those on probation would lose that status and revert to illegal status. This is significantly tougher than the Senate bill, which requires E-Verify to be operational for the path to citizenship to be set in motion, but would not revoke provisional legal status if it isn’t operational. [......]

    .
    More here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/07/17/bipartisan-group-in-house-closes-in-on-immigration-reform-compromise/

    • 107 theo67
      July 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      Sounds like they’re building a loophole they can abuse to pretend to support immigration, then defund the project to complete the e-verify project and dump all the hopefuls off the immigration track once they get past 2016. If they’re serious about immigration reform, then they don’t need to condition it on completion of a computer system. They should work to get a system in place that can work, and whether or not e-verify is that system or a part of that system should be irrelevant.

      • 108 Gazelle
        July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm

        Exactly, Theo. What they’re trying to do is obvious to a newborn puppy. Why should anyone’s life depend on a piece of machinery.

    • July 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm

      This is so much bullshit!

      “The plan would stipulate that E-Verify — the system to allow businesses to determine eligibility to work in the U.S. — must be fully operational after five years. If it isn’t, all of those on probation would lose that status and revert to illegal status.”

      So the Republicans will pass immigration with citizenship contingent on E-verify. That way they kill two birds with one stone…pacify those pesky illegals, so Republicans can make it through the election…primary and presidential… and then just slow walk implementation of E-verify so they never gain citizenship.

      God help me, I hate Republicans!

      • 110 57andfemale
        July 17, 2013 at 4:41 pm

        E-Verify right now is a complete mess. Inaccurate as all hell. And this provision is insane – it will be the immigrant’s fault if the system isn’t working? Repubs who sabotage everything? Seriously?

  41. July 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Final vote for confirmation of Export-Import Bank nominee Hochberg in progress……

  42. 112 arapaho415
    July 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    If Chris Hayes cools it in the emoprog department, he may be able to recovery his “liberal” reputation should he pursue this subject going forward.

    5-minute video of 3 different people trying to steal a bicycle in a public park
    . young white man
    . young black man
    . young (gorgeous) woman

    Guess which person is the only one confronted (and immediately, too)? The two white youths are offered help by passersbys. (Have no idea where this was filmed, but it’s in a park frequented mostly by whites).

    • 113 Layla
      July 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm

      He finds this amazing! Did he just come out of the “surprise box”!!!

    • 114 Jessica
      July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm

      This is old. I thought I saw this footage on WWYD. Not surprising at all. This is typical.

      • 115 arapaho415
        July 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm

        I don’t doubt that it is an old video.

        Those who have, or know someone who has, experienced this kind of “public profiling” think of this as old news.

        But what about showing this to Zimmerman supporters and asking their reaction?

    • 116 nospin
      July 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm

      Chris Hayes can miss me

      • 117 arapaho415
        July 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm

        Not defending Chris, and won’t watch his show.

        But everyone’s entitled to attempt redemption, aren’t they?

        White Americans refuse to believe that racial profiling occurs, and I thought this was a good illustration that is part of what drives many white Americans’ daily behavior. That is all.

  43. 118 Jeff
    July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I CANNOT believe that Carter was defending Zimmerman! I felt all my respect for Carter fading after this.


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