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Chat Away

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12:45 EDT: Secretary Kerry makes a statement on Syria

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  1. August 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    I’m working on an essay on Syria. Should have it ready in a few.

  2. August 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm

  3. 8 cookemom
    August 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Hidee O’s!!!! Wha’s up on this great getting up day in TODdytown e’rbody!?!!!! I’m still here in good ol’ No. Dakota and I must say an early morning run in the open spaces with hills is really a different kind of workout. Did a little karaoke for #1 birhtday last night. Needless to say, if I had a day job, I’d surely have to keep it. Now I’m getting ready for the granddaughter’s sweet 16 birthday bash this week-end. I promised her I wouldn’t embarrass her with my dance moves of the 60′s and a little disco from the 70′s. I didn’t say I wouldn’t twerk though.

  4. 10 yardarm756
    August 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    It never fails. Whenever I post in the morning, the thread changes. Oh well!

  5. August 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Appreciate the comments from Jacqueline, Gail & Dudette yesterday evening on the letter I sent to President Obama. I’m re-posting it because my hope is that folk will read it and take a moment to reflect and urge others to do so.

    In the spirit of MLKJr & the full context of what President Obama said on Wednesday at the Celebration of the spirit of empathy & love that pervaded all that Dr King did, the situation in Syria could serve as a ‘teachable moment,’ a time of considerable reflection on just what it means to be human and what our inalienable responsibilities are to one another, not merely to ourselves.

    Dear Mr President,

    You likely are way ahead of me on this, but the situation in Syria seems to present a watershed moment for educating the American people and all of humanity in a profound way.

    Imagine if we had had Twitter & Youtube on Dec. 8, 1941 and could have begun exposing the mass gassings at Chelmno – the onset of The Holocaust.

    Well, we have those tools today and what was done to the people of the Mleeha and Zamalka suburbs of Damascus is already documented.

    Since we know corporate US #NEWSTAINERS, #GOP & other #KOCHSTER minions could care less about the people of Syria and will attack you no matter what you do, please consider carrying a message directly to everyone.

    Schedule prime time, have all the images and evidence at hand and challenge everyone to assess their personal responsibility to the citizens of Syria (and anywhere else people are slaughtered by their government).

    What would they have done on 9 Dec 1941 had they known of the mass gassing of the Jews?

    What do they demand being done, now, to protect other Syrians from being gassed by their government?

    Ask the questions – give no one the option of escaping their personal responsibility to one another.

    You are the 1st President we’ve ever had with both the tools & the moral fortitude capable of taking such an action.

    Thank you,
    Bob

    #TrustBarack

    Yes We Can

    • 13 GGail
      August 30, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      Thank you Bobfr for re-posting this, yes, ask the questions…

    • 15 Vicki
      August 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm

      Hi Bob, I have to agree with everything you’ve said here. Reluctantly, of course because I am dismayed by the idea of the US bombing anyone anywhere.
      On The Other Hand, and perhaps, determinatively, bombing Bashar Al Assad’s military capabilities, after he has gassed his own people would be something I can get behind, if PBO decides it is a go.
      Thanks again for your clarity.

  6. 16 Don
    August 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Strange, I can’t find anything on Miarand’s haul over at dailykooks.

  7. August 30, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    You know, if you’re going to call someone an idiot, you really need to be smart:

    :???:

    • 24 GGail
      August 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm

      Chipsticks – don’t be soooooo mean! ROFLMAO!!!!!

    • 27 cookemom
      August 30, 2013 at 1:12 pm

      eggsellent rebuff Chips! Mighty fine wit you got there. They’re probably scratching their heads on what you could possibly mean.

      • August 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm

        And it’s a highly impressive background too Cookemom. Oh well!!

      • 29 vcprezofan2
        August 30, 2013 at 1:55 pm

        ‘Mighty fine wit you got there’

        Nail directly on the head, Cookem! Very definitely one of Chips’ greatest attraction for me. :razz:

        BTW, take it easy on the twerking when you are celebrating later, okay? You are fit from all that running etc., I know, but running may not have involved all the twerking(which i never watched) muscles.

        • 30 cookemom
          August 30, 2013 at 2:03 pm

          ha! ha! these hills and dales have me using muscles I never had to engage on the flat plains of Illinois. It’s perfect twerking preparation. To be honest, I haven’t seen it either, which will make for an even more interesting sight. The granddaughter’s party will go down in history (of course I wouldn’t do that to her, but I’m certainly tempted).

          I hear you’ve been on the move lately. I sure the places you’ve visited are giving you the keys to their city.

    • August 30, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      Hah!!! Took me a minute to see the mistake.

    • 33 Dudette
      August 31, 2013 at 12:30 am

      Booyah!!!

  8. 34 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    JOSHUA FOUST

    Extraordinary Court Statement

    By Joshua Foust

    ——————————————-

    UPDATE: Barrett filed his story earlier this morning. It contains even more details:

    Miranda is being investigated for a possible violation of the Official Secrets Act.

    The UK government told the court that “disclosure of the material could put the lives of British intelligence agents or their families at risk,” and “the general public could also be endangered if details about intelligence operations or methods fell into the wrong hands.” This is possibly a justification for holding him under Section 7 of the Terrorism law, though that will be determined at the full hearing scheduled for October.

    Miranda’s computer had 60 gigabytes of data encrypted as a TrueCrypt archive. Police have only examined 20 gigabytes of it so far.

    Greenwald keeps insisting his disclosures haven’t harmed national security, a claim which will need to be balanced with the types of information he had his husband carrying around the world.

    Another Telegraph journalist, Tim Stanley, also pointed out some important inconsistencies between Miranda’s initial statements about his detention and how he describes it now.

    ————————————————————-

    Read the full post and latest updates here ……..

    http://joshuafoust.com/extraordinary-court-statement/

    • 35 GGail
      August 30, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      This one word keeps popping up in my mind when I read about GreenSnowMiranda
      trai·tor
      ˈtrātər/Submit
      noun
      1.
      a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc..
      “they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy”
      synonyms: betrayer, backstabber, double-crosser, renegade, fifth columnist;

    • 37 Don
      August 30, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      If this guy was caught coming back from wherever, only gods knows what sort of information he gave to whomever he was meeting with. To be honest with you, this shit isn’t cute anymore; these guys aren’t a bunch of college kids pulling pranks. These guys are playing with people’s lives and the security of nations around the world.

  9. August 30, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Sec Kerry really is making the case for intervention, isn’t he? Looks like it’s heading that way.

    • 40 vcprezofan2
      August 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm

      I missed Sec Kerry’s briefing, but despite what I’ve been reading, I’m not truly apprehensive. My reason is best explained by Smartypants’ post a few days ago.

      /…
      President Obama has demonstrated that he does not simply shy away from the use of military force – much to the chagrin of many people on the left. What he has also demonstrated is that when he makes that call, it is often in support of giving the people of a country the opportunity to decide their own fate…and live with the consequences. We saw that in Libya where the goal of intervention was to stop a massacre of the Libyan people, not regime change. As Chait points out:

      The argument for intervening in Libya was not that doing so would turn the country into a peaceful, Westernized democracy moving rapidly up the OECD rankings. It was that it would prevent an immediate, enormous massacre of civilians. Libya remains an ugly place; it would have been so regardless of whether NATO intervened. But the narrow, humanitarian goal that drove the U.S. to act was unambiguously accomplished without the larger dangers of mission creep that foes warned against.

      …//

      I’m leaning towards the fact that if/when PBO decides to intervene, it’ll be ‘in support of giving the people of a country the opportunity to decide their own fate…and live with the consequences.’ I also do not believe his intervention will be of a boots on the ground variety. Rather I think he will choose to take quick, sharp action, then step back. My hope mirrors Meta’s, that the consequences of whatever action PBO takes will not overshadow or gravely set back his goals/plans for the USA. I’m reminded of FLOTUS saying that when the decisions reach PBO’s desk they are there because they weren’t easily solved by others. SImply put, #ITRUSTBARACK to do his best, not for himself, but for the country and for world citizens, generally.

      • August 30, 2013 at 2:09 pm

        I trust his judgment too VC, but there are lots of factors here beyond his control, not least the reaction in the region if America gets involved in any way. It’s that part that’s scary.

        • 42 vcprezofan2
          August 30, 2013 at 2:37 pm

          I agree, the reaction will be scary, but I’m trying to balance that in my mind with the fact that there will be negative reaction NO MATTER WHAT PBO DOES. Fortunately for me, whatever he does, I KNOW we here will be with him in a majority, and I know we will push back as much as we can against the critics, because when all is said he is only a man – a human- and we all make the wrong choice from time to time.

          Gone for a walk/ride! CYL!

  10. 43 Bill R.
    August 30, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Convincing presentation by Sec. Kerry, and horrific of Syrian gas attack. 1400 dead, 400 children. Followed by massive shelling to cover it up.

  11. August 30, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    • August 30, 2013 at 1:37 pm

      One more thing. It’s not enough simply to acknowledge the president as the catalyst and the brain behind for these vast sea changes in social policy. This whole week, we have been reminded of personal and institutional racial prejudices that still cling to this experiment we call America. And so, it is time to recognize the unprecedented odds, daunting challenges and institutional resistance Barack Obama had to face not simply to rise the office of the President, but the greater odds, the steeper challenges and the tougher resistance he has had to face for being president while black.

      ************************

      Right ON!

  12. 47 anniebella
    August 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    I am so disappointed in Uk vote yesterday.

  13. August 30, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Secretary Kerry was strong and full-throated in laying out what we know and what we face. His face says it all.

  14. 50 Bill R.
    August 30, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    It seems clear to me now that the President is going to order a time limited military action of bombardment of select military targets as a punishment of the Assad regime to prevent and deter further use of chemical weapons. And It seems clear also he is not going to ask for Congressional approval from a Congress that is paralyzed by GOP obstruction from doing anything useful.

  15. 51 utaustinliberal
    August 30, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    For those who missed Sec. Kerry’s statement

  16. 52 Jovie
    August 30, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Why does @msnbc always find a black caucus member to be against this president on anything?
    Why do they do that, so often?
    Rep Lee???

  17. 53 vcprezofan2
    August 30, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    BBL – got to fuel the body.


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