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Sep
13

Decision-making ….. it’s hard

Rusty looking less than comfortable this morning, sandwiched by two people who, you know, lead.

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Decision-making’s tough, hey John?


119 Responses to “Decision-making ….. it’s hard”


  1. 1 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    First?

  2. 15 Layla
    September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    What a miserable soul Boner is..Just imagine how bad it must feel to be him!

  3. 17 Ladyhawke
    September 3, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    ALL ROADS LEAD TO PUTIN

    By Smartypants

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    Now that Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people and President Obama is proposing military intervention against him, Russia is determined to veto any UN Security Council resolution condemning Assad or supporting President Obama’s call for the international community to respond. But apparently obstruction at the UN isn’t enough for Putin. He is actually preparing to lobby the US Congress to vote against the President. I certainly hope the media will follow this story and let us know which members of Congress are open to being lobbied by the Russian government (cough…Rand Paul…cough).

    The other story of course involves Edward Snowden. Shortly after the picture above was taken, he fled to Hong Kong and began leaking the classified documents he’d stolen from the NSA. We now know that not only did Snowden wind up getting legal representation from a Russian lawyer with ties to the FSB (formerly the KGB), he eventually received asylum in Russia.

    ——————————————

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/09/all-roads-lead-to-putin.html

  4. 18 Nena20409
    September 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    John Boehner always looks like his waterworks are about to burst. This guy is scared of making a decision.

    Once again……Pres Obama has effortlessly Check Mate his Critics……….Please proceed, EmoProgressives, righties, Fox, MSM, DC/NY Pundits, Many at TOD saw the wisdom of this president’s decision on Saturday. I LOVE TOD :!:

  5. 19 Nena20409
    September 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Congrats 57andfemale.

  6. September 3, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    I’ve just gotten online. What great posts you have up. There was a lot in the one before this, but I didn’t see you mention the one about Peres. Pardon me if I repeat things already mentioned in previous post. I’m in a hurry, got to leave, not sure when and there is SO much to read! Never a dull moment with President Obama. Always something new, something amazing!

    Peres Defends Obama’s Syria Delay After Israeli Criticism

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-02/peres-defends-obama-s-syria-delay-after-israeli-criticism.html

    Israeli President Shimon Peres defended U.S. President Barack Obama’s decision to seek congressional approval to strike Syria, after officials criticized the move as undermining the image of American resolve.
    “I’m confident the U.S. will respond against Syria,” Peres said today in an interview on Army Radio. “I don’t think sound judgment is indecisiveness; I think it’s permitted to carefully consider a decision beforehand rather than after, and I trust him on anything connected to Israel.”…

  7. September 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    and I trust him on anything connected to Israel.”…

    ********************

    Profound!

    #TrustBarack

    • 22 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm

      Pres. Peres really means that – isn’t the first time he’s said it. Believe he used similar words at the medal ceremony. Heartwarming to me.

      • 23 majiir
        September 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm

        That’s because Peres is sane. Bibi, not so much. He’s an authoritarian who thinks that his words, thoughts, and ideas, should be the only ones that count. Although polls have shown that a majority of Israeli citizens don’t want the country to attack Iran without U.S. support, Bibi ignores them just as he ignores Israel’s declining support in Europe because he won’t negotiate a settlement with the Palestinians.

  8. 24 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Hahahaha….decision making sure is harder than working on an Oompa Loompa year long tan.

  9. 25 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm

  10. September 3, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Speaker in name only – the man has been utterly useless!

    • 28 57andfemale
      September 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm

      the worst choice ever. Even by the worst party to ever hold political sway in the entire history of the United States. Boner hates to work. Notoriously so.

  11. 29 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm

  12. 30 cluny
    September 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Robert de Niro gives the best explanation of what it’s like to have to make a decision – and then how frustrating it can be when you have to explain it to people who consider themselves experts/critics but don’t actually have a clue. I enjoyed reading that article. Thanks for posting.

    • 31 ericfive
      September 3, 2013 at 2:52 pm

      I also enjoyed the photo of de Niro hugging PBO. You can tell he really admires and respects our President.

  13. 32 LunarSea
    September 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    On my lunch break and hurrying back to work but just had to commenton the picof Rice Boehner Potus Pelosi and grumpy. Like the way Pelosi is next to POTUS and nottheleader of the senate. Lol Must burnhisbutt. Sorry about typos on mydroid luvs

  14. 34 japa21
    September 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Being away for a week, with little access to news and none to the internet actually helps clear one’s head of a lot of clutter.
    Yes, making decisions is hard, even for PBO. I have mixed feelings about Syria an what we should do, but so many people are yelling out their opinions without any respect for the nuances of the situation. This is true for both the “Bombs away” crowd and the “No way, Jose” crowd.

    Fortunately, we have a President who does appreciate nuance and tries very hard to look at all potential outcomes of an action. And in this situation, the web that surrounds do anything or doing nothing is complex indeed.

    What is obvious is that Bush & company really screwed up the process and destroyed any possibility of an administration being trusted in situations like this.

    Also, what I find interesting is that many of the same people who condemned the US for not taking action in Rwanda are no the people saying we should do nothing in Syria.

    The reality is that there is no perfect, risk free solution to the problem. And as is usual, no matter what PBO ultuimately decides, it will be another “damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t” moment for him.

    My respect for thuis man grows daily.

  15. 38 Nena20409
    September 3, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    DC Towncrier……John Boehner with a BIG Gavel……that is all ;)

  16. 39 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    The media is all wee wee’d up…..it is hilarious…….next they will be asking Reagan’s corpse his opinion.

    • September 3, 2013 at 1:28 pm

      Linda, the media is all “wee wee’d up” (heh) because they were 100% geared up to cover a war and all the attendant sniping from all sides. PBO, by bringing in congress has them so ferklempt that they instead just resort to sniping, all of inane.

    • 41 majiir
      September 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm

      I am enjoying seeing the media at odds about its next move. They got “served” by the best. When PBO said last week that he hadn’t made up his mind about what action to take on Syria, they just knew he was lying, and then BAM! He blew the media’s, republicans’, and pundits socks off, and they’ve been looking for them ever since.

  17. September 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I’m reading so much, there are probably other sources if you don’t like Aljazeera. This is from the meeting in picture you posted.

    US Congress leaders back Obama on Syria
    Top Republican and Democratic members fall in line on military action, saying United States must respond to Assad.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/09/201393154941494433.html

    US President Barack Obama won his first major victories on securing Congress support for strikes on Syria, with senior members on both sides of the House of Representatives saying they would back him.

    The House speaker and top Republican in Congress, John Boehner, said on Tuesday that he would support the president’s motion for strikes against the regime of Bashar a-Assad for the alleged use of chemical weapons, and called on his party colleagues to support the president.

    “We have enemies around the world that need to understand we are not going to tolerate this type of behavior,” Boehner said.

    His Republican colleague, house majority leader Eric Cantor, also supported Obama’s call….

    Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Party’s leader in the house, said she did not believe Congress would reject Obama’s call, and that Assad’s action was “behaviour outside the circle of civilised human behaviour and we must respond”.

  18. September 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    I also read an article in the NYT about Iran and Syria. Syria is considered their Vietnam and they aren’t too happy with them although allies. Iraq used chemical weapons on Iran and they hate them, not happy at all with Syria for using them. Backdoor diplomacy signs between US and Iran.

    Amazing isn’t it! And President Obama understands the region like no other President. Remember Romney saying something about Syria being Iran’s route to the sea when he made that disastrous European tour during and made everyone mad at him.

  19. September 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Yep, AP has it and I assume others

    OBAMA HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR SYRIA STRIKE

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-must-address-skeptics-lawmakers-about-syria

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s call for a military strike in Syria won significant momentum Tuesday, with leaders of both parties in Congress announcing they are convinced that Syrian President Bashar Assad used chemical weapons against his own people and that the United States should respond….

  20. 46 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Where is Harry Reid ?

  21. 47 majiir
    September 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Boehner and McConnell look as if they would be anywhere else rather than in a meeting with PBO discussing the way forward in Syria. I love this! They are being forced to live up to their demand that PBO consult Congress before taking action in Syria. I read that Boehner sent the president a letter filled with questions about his plans for Syria. I can imagine that Boehner never, ever thought the republicans’ bluff would be called in such a public manner. Did I say, I love this, yet?

  22. September 3, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Obama Confident Congress Will Approve Syria Strike

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/09/obama-confident-congress-will-approve-syria-strike/

    President Obama said this morning that he’s confident Congress will pass a resolution to intervene in Syria and that he’s willing to be flexible and work with lawmakers on the specifics.

    “I would not be going to Congress if I wasn’t serious about consultations and believing that by shaping the authorization to make sure we accomplish the mission, we will be more effective,” he told reporters at a White House meeting with congressional leaders.

    “And so long as we are accomplishing what needs to be accomplished, which is to send a clear message to [Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad, degrading his capabilities to use chemical weapons – not just now, but also in the future – as long as the authorization allows us to do that, you know, I’m confident that we’re going to be able to come up with something that hits that mark.”

    Asked whether he’s confident Congress will support his request for military action against the Assad regime, Obama said, “I am.”

    “This is not Iraq, and this is not Afghanistan. This is a limited, proportional step that will send a clear message not only to the Assad regime but also to other countries that may be interested in testing some of these international norms that there are consequences,” he said in the Cabinet Room with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., seated to his left and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, to his right…..

  23. September 3, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    There was more good news in the article

    Manufacturing in U.S. Expands at a Faster Pace Than Forecast

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-03/u-s-ism-manufacturing-index-rose-to-55-7-in-august-from-55-4.html

    Manufacturing is poised to make a bigger contribution to the U.S. expansion after a factory barometer unexpectedly climbed in August to the highest level in more than two years….

    American producers are leading a global manufacturing recovery that stretches from China to Europe as their economies improve. Resilient U.S. demand for motor vehicles is prompting companies such as Ford Motor Co. (F) to expand, while further strides in construction are bolstering orders for building materials, appliances and furniture.

    “It’s going to be a solid quarter for U.S. manufacturing,” said Brian Jones, a senior economist in New York at Societe Generale, who projected a reading of 55.8. “Businesses are expanding production not only to meet demand but to also build inventories. Manufacturing worldwide is impressing to the high side.”…

  24. 51 Sandy1110
    September 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Loving that last picture. PBO just knows what the hell he’s doing.

    On a shallow note, I wish I could burn calories like he does. That suit looks roomy despite all the food we’ve seen him put away.

  25. 52 MightyPamela
    September 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Decision making ~ eh, Boner, it takes practice!! All eyes on The Commander-in-Chief!! :lol:

  26. 53 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Forgive me a rant: why are Republicans better at the sell job than Democrats? Within hours they found visceral terminology and words that can frame the debate. PBO cannot be ‘trusted’ with foreign policy. And EVERYONE on their odious side got the memo and started crafting the message. Easy word to connect with the base and to bandy about to do their will – A Democrat opposes strikes to Syria = “Obama isn’t trusted by either side in Congress on national security”. (the crafty, crazed Jennifer Rubin)

    Don’t argue with me about the truth of the words – that’s irrelevant and not my point. It’s that Republicans can come up with words and images that hit the gut, and Democrats as an institution don’t even try.

    Have we seen comparable visceral messages to bolster the President and/or to connect positively with the American people? Again – instead of getting ahead of Republican messaging, they’re waiting to see what they say so they can ‘respond’. “Of course PBO is trustworthy and effectivve – he got bin Laden”. That’s a response, not an offense. When, oh when, will Dem’s realize that we need to take rhetorical offense – not just leave it to PBO but do it as a party?

    Do we not have our own Kristols and Roves who can craft a message and get a chorus behind it within hours? Frankly, DWS, you’ve had plenty of time as head of the DNC to get an apparatus together to fight them at this game. For God’s sake, we’ve got truth, we’ve got the best President since FDR and you’re scrambling like you’re ‘new’?

    • 54 FayPax
      September 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      Now 57, you know your rant is well received by me. :)

      • 55 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm

        Thanks! I’ll get some heat, I’m sure. But knowing how all of this was sure to play out, almost 5 years into PBO’s term and there’s no muscle? Again? What are all the liberal bloggers talking about – the Republican message! Sure they’re refuting it – but that’s what they’re talking about. And every time they talk about it, they give the “Obama can’t be trusted” line more ink and air time.

        I don’t understand why George Lakoff isn’t on the DNC payroll. Another group, The Winning Words Project, has some good ideas for progressive messaging as well. Twitter helps, we’re all doing out part. But the party should be ahead of this. It is no longer reasonable to act like we don’t know what to expect. Makes me crazy, as well you know.

    • September 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      What we DO have are people like Van Jones on CNN denigrating the President. He just said that both Bushes had more support, nationally and internationally for going to war than President Obama.

      • 57 Allison
        September 3, 2013 at 3:07 pm

        Yeah, going to war on a LIE. He makes me ill!

      • 58 majiir
        September 3, 2013 at 3:13 pm

        I speak only for myself, but Van Jones and the emoprogs can eat a dump truck load of d*cks, and I’ll deliver them.

      • 59 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 3:20 pm

        That’s my point – we shouldn’t be responding to this b.s., the Dem’s should have a muscled message that supports PBO and makes the enemies respond to THAT.

        Van Jones is destructive. He gets air time for that reason.

    • September 3, 2013 at 2:50 pm

      Remember how many people voted for President Obama and how many voted for McCain or Romney. Fox News and GOP manipulate and use propaganda just like Greenwald does for the left. People who do not think, but just respond emotionally allow themselves to be influenced by this. The GOP wants to take away their power.

      President Obama appeals to the mind and the heart. Democrats do that more often, but not as well as him. I understand your frustration but part of the transformation going on now is that President Obama is asking people to think. He is also empowering them as individuals, countries and institutions.

      May you be soothed by remembering how many voted for him and how many hearts and minds recognized the truth of who he is and what he is saying. It is happening now, too. The President will keep right on his path to success and the GOP has nothing in their favor but their flapping tongues.

    • 61 Sandy1110
      September 3, 2013 at 2:57 pm

      It’s the “cat herding” problem with the Democrats. They make fun of the RW being sheep, so instead of pulling together, they eat their own because they’re so “principled” about holding everyone accountable.

      So you can’t get a unified message from the Democrats. And to top it off, the media is biased for the RW, so there’s no help there.

      • 62 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 3:24 pm

        The DNC should be more sophisticated at this point and get ahead of issues with our own strong words. Although through sheer force of who he is, PBO has managed to move the ball down the field. But perceptions are stubborn, like the fact that people love the provisions of ‘Obamacare’ but hate Obamacare. That is the job of the Democratic party to take the offense that is not cerebral, but visceral. the sooner we undo the decades of damage that Republicans have done to our political perceptions, the easier it will be for PBO’s successors and for all of us.

        • 63 donna dem 4 obama
          September 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm

          Well said Dandy1110

          President Obama has never had the full support of the establishment in the Democratic Party. He has always had to do the heavy lifting and selling of any policy he has ever had. I personally think that most of them still resent him for not “paying his dues” before becoming President. I am convinced that Dems won’t get out there and frame the message with one cohesive voice because they don’t feel any sense of loyalty to PBO as they have prior Presidents. If this was a Clinton in the WH right now you would not get a single break from the parade of loyalist that would be gracing your tv in support of this action.The Republican message would be a fleeting comment that would get smacked down long before it had a chance to stick.

          Couple this with the studio activist that like to get air time by saying something outrageous or controversial that cable just eats up and gives the appearance of us being off message and there you have it … whatever the Repubs say gets to lead the way. :roll:

    • 64 ericfive
      September 3, 2013 at 3:19 pm

      Could the problem lie not with Democrat’s messaging but with who controls the “microphone”? PBO is an excellent spokesman for Dem ideas and principles, but the media does everything in its power to drown out his message. Do you disagree? Do you think this is an accident and if the Dems say some magic phrases the media will open the floodgates? In the MSM it seems that MSNBC is the best we are allowed and they often undermine Dem messages and embrace Libertarian viewpoints and their morning shows could well air on Fox. In short, are you basing your view of the Dems not having “good messaging” on the fact that the MSM does not report the views of Democrats (unless they are sufficiently anti-PBO)? I think you are blaming the victim. As has been said hundreds of times, the MSM is the communications arm of the GOP. No Democratic catch phrases will change that. Blame corporate ownership of our media. Blame the fact that the GOP is a small tent party with only one directive (i.e. protect the interests of the ownership class/corporations) as opposed to the big tent Democratic Party with its numerous voices and interests.

      • 65 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm

        I don’t think that’s the only problem. believe me, if there were strong messages on the offense with good, visceral words coming from DWS, party leadership and the administration, it would seep through. We’d find it, we’d amplify it. Steve Benen & Greg Sargent would write about it, as well as other liberal bloggers. It’s not there. It’s not just simply an issue of not being heard – they are not ahead of it, ever. Even when PBO gives them a God damned road map of excellent words, there is not a consistent blanketing of the air waves or print. This should be fixed by now.

        Who didn’t foresee that Republicans would find a way to turn this against PBO, that they wouldn’t find a way to say he as ‘weak’ in some fashion new enough to have the entire day of decent liberal bloggers discussing what Republicans are saying? Who didn’t figure out a way to help the President look strong on a visceral level and fan out enough spokespeople that they couldn’t be ignored?

        Kerry is making a very strong case for the response to CW. That’s his job, it’s obviously what he believes based on sound information and I trust him and the administration. But part of this is defining who PBO is, and Dem’s have yet again ceded the narrative to Republicans. The media sucks, of course. But there isn’t a muscular message for them to report, even if they wanted to. Just responses to Republican words

        • 66 ericfive
          September 3, 2013 at 4:25 pm

          If the MSM can ignore the President’s speeches and misrepresent what he says, which it has done for 5 years now, I don’t see the how these magical words or catch phrases will force the MSM to cover them. Unless these words can hypnotize the MSM into forgetting who signs their paychecks, I don’t see the feasibility to what you are saying. PBO does not pay attention to who “wins” or “loses” the 24 hour news cycle and neither do I. Again I point to who controls the “microphone”. How can the Dems force media outlets to blanket the airwaves or print? It always seems like the Dems are playing defense because the GOP, conservative radio and FoxNews set the narrative. The MSM actually goes to these sources to set the narrative. They do not go to Dem sources. There were plenty of liberal bloggers and writers saying PBO getting Congressional approval was smart, but those were not the sources the MSM chose to use to set the narrative. Notice how whitehouse press corp questions seem to be written by the GOP? Is that the Dems fault also?

  27. 67 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Ron Paul is on CNN.

    hahahaa

  28. September 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Hello TODers. I saw Nancy Pelosi’s presser & it was a thing of beauty. You know how reportercritters will yell questions after the presser ends? Well that happened, but Ms. Pelosi answered the question, which was “what if” (here we go) – “what if Congress says “no” to President Obama. She said she doubted that would happen. However, she reminded reportercritters that President Clinton intervened in the Balkans even though Congress objected. She said again, that the President DOES have that right.

  29. 70 carolyn
    September 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Looking at the president in the last picture of the series…..he’s having a good time! He knows he did the right thing, and he will go to Sweden and Russia buoyed by the momentum he is building, and knowledge that he is proceeding correctly. Others know it too. Boehner knows it, and also knows he is getting what he asked for and now has to deal with it. Delicious!
    Cameron called for the Parliamentary election too early. The President has taken his time……..what our media is not used to yet….and will get what he needs.

  30. 71 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Heckler in the Senate Chamber being removed

  31. 73 japa21
    September 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    • 74 Sandy1110
      September 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm

      The emos are absolutely pretending that it is the same thing. That, or they’re proving to be as not-bright as the RWNJs.

  32. September 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Jonathan Chait, this was from 8/29/13, I just ran across it. fits with some other info

    The Obama College-Socialism Backlash Is Here

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/obama-college-socialism-backlash-is-here.html

    After President Obama announced his higher-education-reform plan last week, an eerie silence followed from the right. What would Republicans make of this proposal? Here was a plan that involved no new government spending — indeed, it was designed to reduce the amount of money the government had to spend by allocating it more efficiently. Plus, it threatened snooty universities, who rank high in the demonology of the right.

    On the other hand, the plan was being proposed by Barack Obama, who ranks even higher in the demonology of the right. (No. 1, to be exact.)…

    But now the angry conservative backlash has finally arrived, courtesy of Daniel Henninger, author of The Wall Street Journal opinion page’s aptly named “Wonder Land” column, and it is everything I had hoped an angry right-wing backlash could be. Henninger calls Obama’s proposal “Obamacare for education,” which is true, in the sense that it’s an idea originally invented by Republicans but subsequently abandoned and then (this is the stage we’re embarking on now) transformed into a partisan hate object…..

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I know red states are at the low end for education and that they take more from the government than they give in taxes. GOP is very against an educated populace. Don’t have time to look it up, but I suspect that’s why they would be against the President’s idea. Gotta go! Have wonderful day, Todsters.

  33. September 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    57, your rant could be from me. Thank goodness you are better at expressing it than I am. :)

  34. 77 MightyPamela
    September 3, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Fire ‘em up for our beloved HZ… with loving thoughts and prayers. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PBO

  35. 80 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Really, Ed Schultz – nuanced foreign policy ain’t your forte. Stick to outrage over workers and the middle class. Your tone and dim knowledge of foreign affairs do not lend themselves to a pleasant radio experience.

    • 81 Layla
      September 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm

      I know I will get some flack from some but I really do not like this man!

      • 82 ericfive
        September 3, 2013 at 3:23 pm

        He is a buffoon and a GOP plant, imho.

      • 83 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 3:26 pm

        He’s great on some issues but he’s really not very smart and he goes full throttle whether he understands stuff or not. One step forward, two steps back. What I like about his persona is a blue collar progressive image – we need more of that to get the working man back into voting for his best interests. Ed Schultz is the only one who doesn’t look or sound like he lives in an ivory tower. But his ignorance is annoying at times, today being one of those times.

    • September 3, 2013 at 3:05 pm

      THIS!!!!!!! x 10,000. He is good regarding workers rights, middle class, etc., He definitely needs to stay focused on what he is good at.

  36. September 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Did any of you receive an email from Rep. Alan Grayson? I deleted it because it said he was going to vote no on giving the president authority regarding Syria. Basically he said it was not our duty to police the world, Syria had not attacked the USA, that America and it’s allies were not attacked…blah…blah…blah.

    I understand that Rep Grayson wants to hold onto his seat this time around but going against the President is not a good way of doing it. I am surprised that as a Jew that Rep Grayson cannot see the similarities of Germany who gassed and killed millions of Jews and what Assad has done. At least Bill Handel who is a RW talk show guy could see the similarities being that his grandparents were killed in German concentration camps. At least we have a President that won’t wait until there are millions to stop this brutal killing and making the world take a look at themselves if we allow this happen unchallenged. It pains me that I listen to so many on the radio who claim they voted for Obama but would take their vote back if he attacks Syria. They don’t seem to care that innocent people are being killed and all the President wants to do is say NOT WITH CHEMICAL WEAPONS and put other dictators on notice. I wonder if UK will change their minds and help now that the world knows who game Assad the ingredients to gas his own people.

    • 88 Layla
      September 3, 2013 at 3:10 pm

      IMHO we spend way too much time concentrating on everyone’s opinion; we should stand strong and as a force for PBO and push our and his message! The only important thing on Syria is the final vote by both houses, nothing more. PBO will take it from there!! As Bob says, ‘trust Barack, he’s earned it”

    • 89 ericfive
      September 3, 2013 at 3:27 pm

      He is using this issue to fundraise as the email you received illustrates. He wants attention, which the MSM will gladly shower upon him in exchange for anti-PBO content. He is not someone whose views on military action I would take seriously.

  37. September 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm

  38. September 3, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    A numbers of polls have come out saying that a majority of Americans and Brits oppose intervention . I honestly think that most people are war fatigued and don’t really care if chem weapons are used by other countries unless/until they are used on American/British citizens or military. I completely understand the sentiment. But I also think that once that standard is set its set.

    FYI I understand the US history w/regards to use of chem weapons

    • 92 anniebella
      September 3, 2013 at 3:20 pm

      Well I won’t be a member of that poll, because I do care if chemical weapons are being used against other people. I don’t want us to sit back and say well the weapons are not being used on our people, so why should we care. If people had stood up to Adolf Hitler, millions of Jews wouldn’t have been murder. And no I don’t want America to get into another war.

  39. September 3, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    I know it’s huff-n-puff, but it’s really worth reading ….

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/the-left-and-right-entire_b_3852157.html

    Frank Schaeffer

    The Left and Right Entirely Missed the Point of Obama Deferring to Congress on Syria

    “President Obama has used the Syria gas attack to accomplish something stunning: He’s deliberately turned back the clock on presidential military intervention prerogatives to the World War Two paradigm. Whatever happens in Congress now the president has made it much harder for future presidents to pull a George W. Bush stunt and take America into dumb wars.

    From now on there’s a twenty first century template that will be applied by the nation when we talk war: ask Congress for permission to throw America’s military might around.

    President Obama has just struck a blow for peace. The left and right are so tied up in knots trying to parse the present politics of the situation that they forget that this president thinks long term.”

    #TrustBarack

    Yes We Can

    • 94 FayPax
      September 3, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      Thanks Bob for posting this piece. I wanted to post it but didn’t because of what you call Huff and Puff. :)

    • 95 arkluvspbo
      September 4, 2013 at 1:47 am

      LOVE Frank S. He has been one of the president’s biggest supporters and his writing is honest and fair. He is an example of someone who has opened his mind — i respect and trust what he says.

  40. 96 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Sec. Kerry right now to Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

  41. 97 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Once again, Frank Schaeffer holds my admiration and respect …

    The Left and Right Entirely Missed the Point of Obama Deferring to Congress on Syria

    ” … Speaking as the father of a US Marine that was deployed in Bush’s miserable unjustified wars of choice, I can’t thank President Obama enough for trying to restore a little constitutional balance to America’s addiction to easy wars that others pay for. Since the sons and daughters of the ruling class rarely contribute skin in the nasty ‘game’ of war, since most Americans go shopping rather to war, this Marine’s father is glad that it just got harder to send young men and women in uniform to their deaths … ”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/the-left-and-right-entire_b_3852157.html

  42. 99 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm

  43. 100 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Just to chuck it in the face of John McCain (although I know the issue is super-serious), wish Defense Secretary Hagel were wearing his hot-pink shirt during today’s Senate hearing, alongside Secretary of State Kerry.

  44. 105 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm

  45. 107 Gazelle
    September 3, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I think Dr. Susan Rice needs hazardous pay for being seated next to Boner. :)

  46. 108 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Amen.

  47. September 3, 2013 at 3:31 pm

  48. 110 japa21
    September 3, 2013 at 3:33 pm

  49. September 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    On a more serious note:

    • 112 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      Looks as though Bo wins (with that toy in his mouth!) … not that I’m taking sides.

      • 113 HZ
        September 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

        I have been watching the hearing on the Authorizing Use of Military Force in Syria with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today. But I must say that this great photo of Bo and Sunny is just a great joy to see that Bo has a sister to play with in his big house. HZ

        These Senators on this committee(one speaking now, Sen. Flake from AZ) are crap stools. I dislike these people so much with some of their questions.

        However, I love that Sec., John Kerry and Sec. Hagel are doing a great job. I love how Sec. Kerry is kicking butts with so much patience. God bless his soul.

        We will get through this all of this trust me. I will not give up. I trust President Barack Obama to do what is right. He will do that.HZ

        • 114 jacquelineoboomer
          September 3, 2013 at 5:00 pm

          Secretary Kerry’s response to Flake is spot on. I think in some cases, the two Secretaries and the General respond in certain ways either because (1) they have no respect for the senator who is asking the question and don’t want to waste their time (remember both Kerry and Hagel were senators, and know how the game is being played), or (2) they are being cautious in what they say, no doubt, because either they’d be giving a classified answer or speaking for the President in ways he hasn’t already spoken for himself. I don’t know how anybody can bear sitting in front of some of these Republican senators, and keeping a straight face.

    • 115 Layla
      September 3, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      Soooo sweet!!!! Look at the size of Bo’s paw!!!! It’s huge….

  50. 116 0388jojothecat
    September 3, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Why is MSM/RW/LW Radio Pundits conflating that what PBO wants to do (which he has not decided yet) is to start a war or get in the middle of Syria civil war? Listening to Randi Rhoads and she’s on the same “hair-on-fire-he-wants-start-a-war” bandwagon.

  51. 117 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Does Corker look like Ghost of Christmas Past to anybody but me? Anybody?

  52. 119 Bill R.
    September 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    In the 90s the left and right were hollering the same things about Bill Clinton and his bombing campaign in Kosovo and Balkans. What we got was peace and the preservation of life. No American soldiers were lost. Thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Kosovars were saved and allowed to return to their homes. In both instances at the outset the bombing campaigns were not popularly supported. He didn’t get Congressional approval but did it anyway with a good result for peace and humanitarian outcome.


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