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Secretary Kerry’s Senate Testimony on Syria

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130 Responses to “Secretary Kerry’s Senate Testimony on Syria”


    • September 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm

      This boots on the ground business really needs clarification though, Bob.

      • 4 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 4:40 pm

        Oh yeah.

      • 5 dotster3
        September 3, 2013 at 4:41 pm

        As soon as I heard that (Kerry later calling it ‘thinking out loud’) I thought ‘uh oh’——that is going to be the bright shiny thing coming out of these hearings. Kerry, to his credit tho, has gone back 3 or 4 times to clarify, trying to set the record straight that this action is a “limited strike”, absolutely no ‘boots on the ground’.
        I do have to add, reluctantly, that this hearing is not entirely reassuring.

        • September 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm

          I’m only catching up on it now Dotster, through the videos in the post and the coverage on C-Span, Kerry seems rattled, I have to say, I thought he would handle the aggressive (and often stupid) questioning better. Absolute clarity was/is needed on the boots on the ground issue, and even though he’s tried to clarify it, as you said, I think he should have been clear from the start. It’s not good.

        • 7 57andfemale
          September 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm

          I guess what I’m NOT hearing that would reassure me – is this action going to be an effective deterrent? What are the consequences? I think we have a right to ask those questions. And NO, I don’t think we should go bomb them to smithereens and start another full-out war. I understand everything PBO and Kerry are saying. I believe that the evidence is truthful. I believe that Syria must be held accountable. I’m just not reassured that it’s going to do what we need it to do. It’s not as if the entire world doesn’t know we could bomb anyone to smithereens if we wanted to.

      • September 3, 2013 at 4:45 pm

        That’s what I’m referring to, Chips. There can be no ambiguity on that matter and Sec Kerry just stated to Senator Coons that if the Senate wants to introduce specific language in the AUMF that restricts ‘boots on the ground’ and that the Administration would not object.

  1. 10 Allison
    September 3, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Thank you Secy Kerry

  2. 11 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Glad to see Mrs. Kerry sitting behind the General. She looks well.

    • September 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      And I just heard Randi Rhodes make fun of Secretary Kerry’s face. She says he has had a face lift and even made a sarcastic type remark about his wife. I think that was very ugly of her.

      • 13 Layla
        September 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm

        I will not listen to what Rhodes has to say, a waste of my energy. God bless you for putting up with that

      • 14 anniebella
        September 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

        How can you all stand to listen to such Bull from people like Randi Rhodes? What SOS Kerry had is none of her darn business. And she ought to shut her darn mouth about Mrs. Kerry.

      • 17 carolyn
        September 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

        I think Sec Kerry had what my husband had…..an eyelid lift for medical reasons. When the eyelid droops to a certain degree…..which it does with age…..it has to be lifted to maintain peripheral vision. Having seen Kerry in person, I am sure this is what was done. That one thing makes a huge difference in a person’s looks. People have those all the time, not for beauty, for vision and health. But, of course, a person in the spotlight has people talk about him in an ugly way.
        After that surgery my husband could see cars coming from his left, which he could not before the surgery.

        I imagine Randi Rhodes, whoever she is, when she reaches a certain age, will have that procedure done. It is NOT cosmetic, it is medical, and medicare pays for it.

        • 18 GGail
          September 3, 2013 at 4:40 pm

          Yes, carolyn, you’re correct. My ex-husband had to have the surgery for vision improvement too.

        • 19 nathkatun7
          September 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

          You are absolutely right Carolyn. It is really sad that media people, interested in sensationalism, pass on to people false information.

      • 20 jacquelineoboomer
        September 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

        Mixed-up world, eh?

        • 21 HZ
          September 3, 2013 at 5:17 pm

          I personally have little tolerance for people who make comments about what they believe another person has done to his or her body when it comes to their appearance. I personally have a very dear family member who have read so many papers, books, more books, that with age, his eyes were becoming a serious liability to him in performing his job when it comes to reading and seeing many things. The surgery was done, and our family fully supported his actions. It improved his vision to a level that has greatly improved his ability to perform his job to the highest level .HZ

  3. 22 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    OMG…Ron Johnson is dumb as dirt .

    • 23 GGail
      September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm

      OMG – Linda, I just ask who is he? Hahahaha!

      • 24 HZ
        September 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm

        He is an arrogant craphead. He is offensive and disrespectful, IMOP. I also cannot stand Sen. Tom Udall (D) New Mexico. He is trying the patience of Sec. John Kerry, but thank God, Sec. Kerry is cleaning Sen. Udall ‘s l(of Mexico” clocks. I love our Sec. of State!!!HZ

    • September 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm

      Hillary Clinton cleaned his clock when she was testifying at the Benghazi hearing. He really showed that he is not intelligent enough to be a senator and is out of his league. Of course he is not alone.

      • 26 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 4:42 pm

        And again, thank you John McCain and Sarah Palin for letting this country accept gross stupidity and willful ignorance as qualifications for high elected office in America.

  4. 27 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Some of the questions coming from the Senator’s are just as bad as those from WHPC.

    Who is this Senator Johnson and how old is he. Did he major in rumor, speculation and hysteria in college?

    • 28 Linda
      September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm

      He is the one Hillary yelled at ” What difference does it make now ” ….He is from Wisconsin

      • 29 GGail
        September 3, 2013 at 4:37 pm

        What is his goal – to play “gotcha” because he has an audience?

        • 30 jacquelineoboomer
          September 3, 2013 at 4:41 pm

          I think we can expect the next “selfie” from his bathroom to be tweeted out by this guy. So, yes, I think he’s thinking viewing audience.

    • 31 57andfemale
      September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm

      Russ Feingold didn’t think it would be ‘nice’ of him to mount an effective campaign against Johnson in 2010. Not to say that the tea party didn’t have its day in the sun that infamous year, but we managed to fight off a tea party candidate for governor here in Illinois that same year. Yes, we got the odious Mark Kirk in the Senate, but he’s not a tea party idiot at least. Just a regular Republican idiot.

  5. 32 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Chuck Hagel mentioned some important points, in that there are parallel actions that would work along with whatever action the President would take: opposition strength, defections within Syrian govt and military, other intel, other consequences … in getting to an end game, which is a diplomatic settlement …

  6. 38 Linda
    September 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Ron Johnson needs to be drug tested….for speed !

  7. September 3, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  8. 40 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    I am so proud of the three men (Kerry, Hafgel & Dempsy) who are up there supplying the clarification for the request from Congress

  9. 41 Vicki
    September 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Latest poll from Quinnapiac just released. Bill deBlasio leading field with 43% of the vote. Bill Thompson is at 20% and Chris Quinnberg is at 18%.

    New Yorkers respond well to Progressive candidates with appealing families. Just like Americans did in 2008 and 2012.

    The NY newspapers have been fully humiliated now. Last week with BdB at 36% the MSM complained that the newspaper endorsements hadn’t had time to work. Now their downfall and irrelevance cannot be argued. The People, United………..

  10. 43 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Yeah, Kerry, go after Flake!!!

  11. 44 sherijr
    September 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    thank you Chips, I missed this today – and really did want to see it. :)

  12. 45 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    Kerry has been great at testimony and questioning. He has made it clear over and over again that it is a limited strike and not a boots on the ground mission. Anyone saying otherwise is lying and trying to twist his words. He has been been very clear in the hearing and there is no way anyone can misconstrue his words. Anyone doing so, is doing it maliciously.

    The man is speaking in plain english. It’s not hard to understand.

    • 46 utaustinliberal
      September 3, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Kerry even said that the authorization from Congress can include ruling out boots on the ground. He has been very clear. This is not hard to understand. He’s not speaking alien language.

    • 47 GGail
      September 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      I agree UT. I just mentioned above, that I’m proud of the three men (Kerry, Hagel & Dempsey) who are up there.

    • 48 57andfemale
      September 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      But they’re malicious, UT. Effing Ted Cruz took Baucus’ words about ACA out of context, and when confronted with the fact that Baucus had had his concerns addressed and fully supported ACA, Cruz said it didn’t matter. Baucus said what he said and Cruz had every right to quote it. So any ammunition can and will be used against Kerry, unfortunately.

      Of course, if he’d been pitch perfect throughout the hearing, the Malicious Ones would have just made shit up anyway.

  13. 49 dotster3
    September 3, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    • 50 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Yes, and if he were, he’d be just as useful. Luckily, I muted him when he spoke, so I didn’t have to repeat to myself, over and over, “La la la we can’t hear you.” For all I know, he recited the Pledge of Allegiance or invited the Kerrys over for BBQ, but I missed it. Get off my lawn, McCain.

  14. 51 dotster3
    September 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    • 52 utaustinliberal
      September 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm

      That’s bullshit. They’re twisting his words. He said no boots on the ground. Corker tried to pretend that Pres. Obama wanted boots on the ground for all parts of the Syria interaction. Kerry said no, there will be no boots on the ground. Menendez tried to box him into a corner. Kerry said he will not make decisions for Pres. Obama and take away any of his military options. Kerry then told them that if they want to include language about no boots on the ground in their authorization, they can go ahead an do so.

      Any child can understand what Kerry was saying. It’s plain english.

      • 53 jziglar
        September 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm

        Well you forget that we are dealing with stupid people. And we have plenty of stupid people in this country who don’t listen.

      • 54 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 5:19 pm

        let me get this straight: All Kerry said was he would not speak for CiC and the CiC should have all military options, and that has instantly conflated to ‘boots on the ground?!’

        I hate the Media. I hate what passes for progressive media who have called it ‘going to war with Syria’.

      • 55 HZ
        September 3, 2013 at 5:25 pm

        Thank you UT. These foolish people are trying to “twist ” this , but Sec. Kerry is not falling for their crap. I do not like Sen. Melendez, personally for this job as Chairman for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Just me.HZ

  15. 56 dotster3
    September 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm
  16. 59 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Durbin is bringing forth clarity,

    Ohhhhhh Nooooo here comes McCain

  17. 60 dotster3
    September 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm

  18. 61 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    I sincerely think we need to be handing out meds to Congress (under Obamacare – of course)

  19. 63 yardarm756
    September 3, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    Grampy McCain is a monumental ass hat that left his brains back in the Hanoi Hilton.

  20. September 3, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    McCain Slams Fox News: Muslims Thank Allah Like Christians Thank God (VIDEO)

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) pushed back hard Tuesday against a Fox News host who raised concerns over a Syrian rebel’s use of a ubiquitous Islamic phrase…
    “I have a problem helping those people screaming that after a hit,” Kilmeade said.

    A clearly annoyed McCain quickly hit back.

    “You have a problem with that? Would you have a problem with an American Christian saying ‘thank God, thank God’?” McCain said. “That’s what they’re saying. Come on. Of course they’re Muslims, but they’re moderates and I guarantee you that they are moderates. I know them and I’ve been with them. For someone to say ‘Allahu Akbar’ is about as offensive as someone saying ‘thank God.'”

  21. 69 sherijr
    September 3, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    ole Johnny would be happier I think if we could have all out war- I’m so grateful he’s not running things.

  22. 70 sherijr
    September 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    wow not agreeing w/ Tom Udall, I think he’s wrong.

    • 71 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      I understand. But, right or wrong, Kerry’s responses to Udall are so strong, it’s like Udall gave him the questions in advance. I don’t blame Udall for whatever he asks, because that’s the purpose of the hearing, to show all sides (whether we all agree with one or the other side, for sure) – not to just work in lockstep like Republicans did when Bush did or said anything that would, in fact, put boots on the ground. Kerry’s now got the fire in his eyes, thanks to Udall, so hang in there, sherijr!

  23. 79 99ts
    September 3, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Need a warning when you wake up early and have to face the orange man throwing some hate around with his facial expressions. And I could give a reason as to why he didn’t like being between PBO and Susan Rice without looking at the comments.

    I was very pleased to see Bo & Sunny – calmed me down somewhat – now I shall have my morning cup of tea (hot) and read what y’all had to say.

  24. 80 Melanie
    September 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    I see Code Pink with their signs on the floor. Wonder if they’re about to make a scene.

    • 81 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 5:24 pm

      At least they’re consistent, no matter who’s President. I’m not sure about their effectiveness at these hearings, but I’ll give ‘em consistency.

      • 82 57andfemale
        September 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm

        I hope their signs say how they support Assad and CW, as long as we don’t go to ‘war’.

        • 83 jacquelineoboomer
          September 3, 2013 at 5:37 pm

          Musta missed that part!

          • 84 57andfemale
            September 3, 2013 at 5:55 pm

            Medea Benjamin would be screaming her fool head off if we didn’t help the innocents, wouldn’t she? How, pray tell, does she think we will do that? Bribe them with cotton candy to relinquish their chemical weapons.

            The loony left has lost all skills of logic.

    • 85 dotster3
      September 3, 2013 at 5:24 pm

      They already did. They yelled protests right away as Kerry was speaking—–screeched—–and were escorted out, still screeching.

  25. 87 utaustinliberal
    September 3, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    • 89 nathkatun7
      September 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm

      President Obama is amazing. Today he is meeting with members of Congress. Tomorrow, in Europe, which I think is 6 hours ahead of D.C, he will be having a joint news conference with the Prime Minister of Sweden. How in the world does he manage to stay coherent? If it were me, I would be trying to recover from the jet lag.

  26. 90 Vicki
    September 3, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    On last post UT drew our attention to the Ravens interest in promoting ACA. POTUS tweeted the same info.
    Just want to weigh in on this again. I think it is a BFD. Remember when Jerry Jones, chief honcho of the NFL said there will be no participation from the NFL on the grounds of “too political?” I can’t say what if anything has changed in the NFL but I am delighted to see the Ravens on board.
    My darling Knicks….where are you?

  27. 91 Melanie
    September 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Wow that’s interesting. Sen Menendez just said the resolution sent by the administration will not be the one that will be voted on. I know its going to be marked up. Wonder how much it will change?

    • 92 57andfemale
      September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm

      PBO said he was totally open to rewriting the resolution with Congress.

    • 93 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm

      I kinda find myself not caring. I’m more thinking this is all giving Pres. Obama more time to get more world leaders on board with him, as well as NATO and the UN. Not that our President didn’t want to go to Congress for that specific benefit, but I’d say let’s keep this process going as long as possible. Mark it up with your crayons a dozen times, Congress!

  28. 95 jacquelineoboomer
    September 3, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    I’m gettin’ like a kid in church, who laughs because you shouldn’t. Because I have zero respect for any of the Republicans on this panel, I couldn’t help but dwell on Teresa Heinz Kerry’s face, while the General was speaking a few minutes ago. First, she had a bemused look at what Barrazzo was spitting out of his mouth, then she shook her head in agreement with something or other … I was half expecting her to yell out to the Senate panel (and be carted out like a Code Pinker):

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm

      I think she’s BAWSE.

      • 97 jacquelineoboomer
        September 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm

        And we get to see it play out nicely, on the State Department’s Take Your Spouse to Work Day.

        (I’ve been holding that in for an hour, but Rand Paul’s speaking on the teevee, and I’m seeking sanity through my own sick brand of humor.)

    • 100 GGail
      September 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm

      Hahahahah, I saw her expressions and body language too!

      • 101 HZ
        September 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm

        Remember, Mrs. Kerry is very mindful of this part of the world. As I recall, she was very important in then Sen. Kerry’s Presidential Campaign. (Negative or Positive, as you wish). I have always admired here boldness because of her well of knowledge in many areas. She speaks 5 languages; was an UN interpreter, and also a great business woman. Look up her bio., and I think some of her body language will speak loudly for themselves. She is a great asset to Sec. Kerry in many ways, not just her money. Very smart woman, and I like the way she supports her hubby. Just me. HZ

  29. September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    The Uncomfortable Reality of Edward Snowden
    Because duh, it’s Russia

    The troubling implications of what Edward Snowden did are starting to sink in, even at the New York Review of Books where they’ve previously been solid backers of Snowden and his publicist Glenn Greenwald: Snowden in Exile, by Amy Knight.

    You should read the whole thing, of course, but the closing paragraph is striking.

    More to the point, he is bound to suffer disillusionment with his new hosts—perhaps like what happened to [Kim] Philby, who arrived with far stronger ideological commitments. In an interview while he was still in Hong Kong in June, Snowden, referring to the interception of private communications by the NSA, said, “I do not want to live in a society that does this sort of thing.” He did not foresee that he would find himself now in a place where his every move and every contact would be monitored by a government that is far more controlling of its citizens than its American counterpart.

    “He did not foresee” what it would be like in Russia? Apparently Amy Knight has telepathic powers, because nobody but Edward Snowden really knows if he foresaw this. But he would have had to be incredibly ignorant of foreign affairs not to.

  30. 103 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    This committee is making me tired. I don’t know how Kerry has the patience to repeat these answers over and over

  31. 104 sherijr
    September 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    John Kerry making very good points. Doing nothing is not a response, it just isn’t. Comparing this to Iraq is so off, even though I get why folks are harping on it… Iraq was a big fat lie and if I knew it- then pretty much most of the world knew it too- and…. Barack H. Obama is not George W. Bush- so frankly some of this fear is overdone, sorry.

  32. 105 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm

  33. 106 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    I am torn – do I listen or do I pull these earplugs out of my ears – Rand Paul – uugggghhhhhhhh!

  34. 107 HZ
    September 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    I am so grateful that we have Sec. John Kerry as our Sec. of State during this time as well. He is serving the President well. I appreciate the President’s team. These foolish men and women do not realize that Sec. Kerry served on this committee for years with great distinguish. He is Not a push over as some of these fools sit there playing politics with this issue.

    I am very much at peace with our President. Now, I will shut up.

    Oh, for my TOD family: I had a wonderful office visit with my doctor this morning. He was very receptive to my input, and I was very pleased with his efforts to understand my medical needs at this time. In other words, it was a very good visit and check up. I will have my next one in Dec., 2013. I am pleased and grateful. HZ

  35. 111 dotster3
    September 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Rand Paul could not be any more revolting. He’s deranged.

  36. 112 HZ
    September 3, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Now the ass, Sen. Rand Paul is acting like the fool that he is. I just cannot stand this ugly crazy man. HZ

  37. 113 GGail
    September 3, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Rand Paul is a punk. He’s making all of these insulting comments about the President to everyone BUT the President.

  38. September 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Well damn here’s some more Tourette’s ticks from McCain. Seems McCain was sorta on a roll this morning, this also happened on the same Fox & Friends interview:

    McCain laughs as he mocks Laura Ingraham’s ‘vast knowledge of military tactics’

    “She feels as though you’re bailing him out of a misguided, confused policy,” co-host Brian Kilmeade noted. “Now when you come out to the microphones and say, ‘Hey, we got to support this,’ that people can’t understand where that came from.’”

    “First of all, I didn’t say, ‘Hey, we got to support this,’” McCain replied. “Second of all, I was encouraged when the president commits to increasing our support for the Free Syrian Army, for providing them with weapons that they need to combat Bashar al-Assad, and to degrade the capabilities of the Syrians to deliver these chemical weapons and other weapons.”

    “So, I just beg to differ, I’m sure that with her vast knowledge of military tactics and strategy, she knows better than me,” the Arizona senator added, cracking himself up with remark.

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm

      darn cut and paste and not being able to edit…lol

      • 116 nathkatun7
        September 3, 2013 at 6:09 pm

        You still got your point across. I am glad to see McCain acting sane and calling these ignorant people masquerading as journalists.

    • 117 jacquelineoboomer
      September 3, 2013 at 6:00 pm

      Maybe I need help, but what is McCain’s own “vast knowledge of military tactics and strategy”? Anyone?

      Oh, brother.

      • September 3, 2013 at 6:19 pm

        I’m no fan of McCain, but I do respect his military service.

        Now is his “knowldege of military tactics and strategy” truly “vast”, maybe not, but it “Vastly” more knowledgeable than Laura Ingarham.

        So I give a point to McCain, same as I would if it was a Dem pol like Kerry who has military experience as well.

  39. 119 Eveingeorgia
    September 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    HRC has come out in support of PBO.

  40. 120 57andfemale
    September 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm

  41. 121 Eveingeorgia
    September 3, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Kerry is walking over RAND’S face!

  42. 122 yardarm756
    September 3, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    The SOS is reading Paul’s ass real good about ‘going to war’!

  43. September 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Point Kerry:

    @sherijr
    ooh Rah S#ecKerry “I urge you to go to the classified briefing and learn” #RandPaul

    • 126 sherijr
      September 3, 2013 at 6:00 pm

      well thank you Iamh :) I see I screwed up #SecKerry

    • 127 majiir
      September 3, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      Rand Paul keeps his damn mouth going and doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about 99.99999% of the time. He can’t learn anything because he’s too busy running from one place to another to give his stupid speeches, gain wider recognition, and raise money. SOS Kerry told him what no one else has had the guts to tell him–sit down, STFU, and LEARN something. Just the idea that he thinks he can be POTUS with his highly visible lack of knowledge behind turns my stomach.

  44. September 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    Report: Hillary Clinton Backs Obama On Syria Strike

    Although she may be out of office, count former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in favor of a “targeted response” to Syria.

    An aide to the possible 2016 presidential contender told Politico Tuesday that Clinton “supports the President’s effort to enlist the Congress in pursuing a strong and targeted response to the Assad regime’s horrific use of chemical weapons.”

  45. 130 Vicki
    September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    SOS Kerry so strong and unflappable. He has the patience of a saint. As the old saying goes


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