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Keep Chattin’

President Obama walks to attend the working dinner after the session of the G20 Summit in Strelna near St. Petersburg, September 5

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  1. 1 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Ooooo, this would’ve been a nice trip for FLOTUS

    http://www.g20.org/news/20130905/782451393.html

    Photos of spouses visit to the Ballet Academy

    http://www.g20.org/photo/20130905/782440170.html

  2. 4 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Ha ha! Victory is MINE!!! :-D

  3. 8 GGail
    September 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Gettin’ it on the good foot Dudette :-)

  4. 17 57andfemale
    September 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Bringing this over from the last thread. Linda asked about Al Jazeera America’s coverage. Here’s my comment:

    I’m home today but unfortunately I have to be working in my home office that doesn’t have a TV. I’ve been checking AJAM’s coverage as I can.

    From my limited viewing, it appears to be fair in its reporting. there is more information on the views of the other nations, and not just stupid reactions like you’d get from Chuck Todd or Andrea Mitchell, but actual reporters doing actual reporting.

    As it stands right now – other countries are skeptical. They are particularly skeptical of joining the U.S. in a mission without UN sanction. (Thank you Bush regime for breaking everything). However, they are also saying that Russia is putting the Security Council at a standstill. They are saying that the U.S. is just starting to make its case, and that information from the inspectors is just now forthcoming, with more to come.

    It’s almost shocking to listen to the coverage – that we’re just at the beginning of a process and there is more to come. Without hyperbole and a bunch of know-nothings drawing Big Conclusions from very little evidence about complex issues that they know nothing about.

    I’m not sensing a bias in either direction. They make time for a world view and not just some dumb, overpaid ‘reporter’s’ view.

    I saw Samantha Powers – and although her statement was strong, she does not yet have the polish in presentation that we’ve come to expect from Susan Rice. That will come with experience.

    Just my snapshot from the middle of the day: the U.S. has a much harder uphill climb than it would have had in the past, due to the Bush regime ruining our credibility. But we are in the midst of a process, and AJAM is not into drawing pundit-y conclusions.

    I reiterate – I am not home enough to watch their coverage all day, so take my impressions with that in mind. In general, they spend a lot more time on substantive debates and coverage of issues. They will give a full half hour to two guests on issues. They are not giving voice to a lot of loons, just to do ‘he said/she said’ reporting. There is a split screen showing the credentials of the guests so you know who they really are.

    The only show that sends me running out of the room is Ali Velshi’s ‘business’ reporting. He’s a jackass.

    Interestingly, you hear devil’s advocate questions that would strike us as anti-Obama on msnbc or cnn. But you can tell that on AJAM these questions must be asked, because it is our opportunity to express our side.

    So far, I’m pretty impressed.

    • 18 Linda
      September 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      Thank you so much 57. AJA is suing AT&T Uverse, which is my provider, for trying to charge more money to put it in the line up than was first agreed on.

    • September 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      57, thanks for the quick review of AJAM. I don’t think that PBO is at all discouraged by the attitude of caution shown by other nations. He, too, would like to have Assad’s activities condemned by the UN, but Putin stands as the big joker in that deck. When the president set about seeking consensus, he knew there would be questions and skepticism. This is what it takes to build unity–back and forth questions and answers, reassurances, some setbacks, some movements forward. In all of this, our Community Organizer in Chief is a master. He will keep pressing, keep showing further proofs and quietly and resolutely building support. He’s in no hurry and that is what’s driving the emos and naysayers nuts.

      • 25 57andfemale
        September 5, 2013 at 3:51 pm

        PBO isn’t concerned. The adults in other nations aren’t concerned. It’s the quick-response American pundits that are the problem. It was striking to me as I was listening to AJAM’s coverage today – process is fine. We don’t need snap decisions Snap decisions are dumb, childish. Other countries need to be convinced? What’s wrong with that? Except in what passes for journalism in the U.S.

        When you see the contrast, you are more acutely aware how agenda-driven the entire MSM is. How, if you can frame something to hurt PBO from the right or the left, that’s how it’s reported. It’s shameful.

        • September 5, 2013 at 5:40 pm

          Many countries may be waiting on the UN report…before saying anything…because this a 2 part issue…one…did Assad gas his own people…and 2 what will they do if anything to hold Assad accountable

          • 27 nathkatun7
            September 5, 2013 at 7:51 pm

            Prettyfoot, I don’t think the UN investigators were asked to determine if “Asssad gassed his own people.”. Their mission, which was narrowly designed, was simply to find out if chemical weapons were used. I could be wrong and the UN report will categorically say that “Assad gassed his own people. If did, that will change the equation. All those countries on the sideline would be forced to join the U.S. to be Assad enablers.

          • 29 57andfemale
            September 6, 2013 at 9:12 am

            And that’s the truth. It’s the miserable American MSM that is drawing conclusions and demanding a full, instant answer, from left and right fringe and the center. It’s first of all – not honest, and second it’s MADDENING.

    • 30 Dudette
      September 5, 2013 at 3:16 pm

      Nice write-up 57. Thanks for that. I’ve caught a smattering of their coverage here and there. I’ve liked what I’ve seen.

      I was a little surprised and disappointed when they didn’t have live coverage of the President’s press conference with the Swedish PM yesterday (CNN/CNNI did and as soon as it was off, I quickly changed the channel to over listening to the pundit drivel), but that’s been the only thing that bothered me so far.

      • 31 57andfemale
        September 5, 2013 at 3:53 pm

        See, these are the things I don’t know – like coverage of the press conference. Frankly, there is no excuse for that. But I think they might want to hear that serious news junkies who are willing to watch their station are asking for that kind of coverage. So far, when I tune in I’m pleased. My husband is home most of the day and he’s been pleased as well. msnbc is never on our tv these days. I like to leave news on if I’m not in the room. AJAM has so far earned my interest. Time will tell. I’m skeptical of news coverage in general but I’m hopeful.

        • 32 Dudette
          September 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm

          I just happened to be home when it was time for it to start. I looked for it on all the “news” channels and found it on CNN International. But I actually just watched the White House stream.

  5. 35 carolyn
    September 5, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    I know I should probably be thinking deep thoughts about the significance of the G20 summit……and I have some, but mostly what I’m thinking is that early September must be a great time to visit the northern part of the globe……..

    • September 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm

      I was thinking the same when I saw the sunshine beating down on President Obama when he disembarked in Sweden yesterday, and seeing the water sparkling by the side of the motorcade as he drove through the throngs of people. Lovely!

  6. 37 Nena20409
    September 5, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Direct TV is being installed today. It has been a long time coming…..since Sunday. Hopefully, We can experience Al Jazeera America soon. I hope all this fuss is not for Naught.

    There service thus far is horrible. Wrong order and no show yesterday. So a total messed up week.

    • 38 Dudette
      September 5, 2013 at 3:09 pm

      Sorry your experience with them isn’t so hot. Unfortunately everyone I know who has tried them has been unhappy.
      A warning: Make sure you’ve got some DVDs to watch on days when it rains.

      • 39 japa21
        September 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm

        I’m happy with them. Yes, rainy days are a problem at times, but otherwise, very pleased.

      • 40 57andfemale
        September 5, 2013 at 4:05 pm

        That’s true of satellite in general (I have DISH). But it was true of crappy cable as well.

        What is nice with the DVR – you can watch what you’ve recorded if there’s bad weather. I have been much happier with DISH than I was with Direct TV.

      • 41 Nena20409
        September 5, 2013 at 8:39 pm

        Thanks Dudette. Yes. I have DVDs. Loads of it. They candidly warned me about their intermittencies during climatic challenges.

  7. 42 Linda
    September 5, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    LONDON — U.K. scientists have found new evidence that poison gas was used last month outside the Syrian capital of Damascus, British Prime Minister David Cameron said Thursday

    In an interview with BBC television on Thursday, Cameron said that the evidence being examined by experts at England’s Porton Down Laboratory “further shows the use of chemical weapons in that Damascus suburb.”

    The BBC’s account of the interview did not make clear whether the British tests had determined who was responsible for the chemical strike – a critical question facing world leaders as they gather in St. Petersburg to debate an international response to the August 21 attacks.

    Some Western leaders, including President Barack Obama and his chief diplomat, John Kerry, have said there’s no doubt that the gassing was the work of the Syrian government, headed by President Bashar Assad. But U.S. officials have told The Associated Press there are still holes in the case against Assad, and other leaders – including Cameron – have acknowledged lingering uncertainty over who exactly was behind the strike.

    Nevertheless, the BBC quoted Cameron as saying that evidence of the Assad government’s culpability was “growing all the time.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130905/eu-britain-syria/?utm_hp_ref=homepage&ir=homepage

  8. 44 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Background on the G20 Summit — ALL YOU CAN EAT! :-D

    Official Summit Website
    Home page: http://en.g20russia.ru/

    Infographic on particpating member countries:

    http://en.g20russia.ru/infographics/20121201/780989503.html

    G20 members arrival photos (including POTUS)

    http://www.g20.org/photo/20130905/782524776.html

    Official welcome photos

    http://www.g20.org/photo/20130905/782420204.html

    Photos from First working meeting of the summit

    http://www.g20.org/photo/20130905/782438021.html

    Full video of first meeting of the summit (no idea how long it is)

    http://www.g20.org/news/20130905/782532535.html

    US Embassy in Moscow
    ————————————–
    Embassy Home page: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/

    G20 Summit in Russia Will Focus on Global Economic Growth

    http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2013/09/20130903282115.html#axzz2e2pbonNk

    Interesting Slideshare from US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul
    “President Obama’s Worldview: Implications for Russia” (presented May 2013)

    http://www.slideshare.net/usembassyru/michael-mcfaul-president-obamas-worldview

  9. 49 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Tweet from US Ambassador McFaul

  10. 51 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Raise your hand if you’re surprised [sigh!]

  11. 52 dotster3
    September 5, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Read a horribly slanted account of G-20 in Chgo Trib, attributed to “staff writers”, making it seem like it was PBO alone in the world (except for France) re. Syria. They had U.N. officials’ quotes against any military action in Syria in addition to those of leaders of other participating countries (or their spokespeople), plus the pope!—-making it seem like all other countries are trusting Putin/Russia over the U.S. on this. Now I see that article has completely disappeared off web site replaced by a less harsh Reuters’ account which mostly just notes the tense atmosphere between Putin and Obama. News tweets almost jubilantly noting PBO walking in alone to the din were a little too obvious in their purpose also—-plus all kinds of “work cut out for him” and “uphill climb in convincing others” notations.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-syria-g20-conference-20130905,0,3487154.story

    • 53 theo67
      September 5, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      NPR also had the same slant earlier today, saying that PBO was isolated, and basically everyone else is horrified by use of chemical weapons, but they’d rather impose sanctions or something other action – and they’re basically on the side of Russia. They implied it would be very uncomfortable for President Obama to be in Russia, when he’s fighting to get support at home, and is now in the lion’s den.

      I’ve taken to listening to music most of the time I’m in the car.

    • 55 jziglar
      September 5, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      The media is so anti-Obama and everyday they get worse with their propaganda.

    • 56 hopefruit2
      September 5, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      The worse the MSM gets with the anti-Obama reports – the better he is actually doing….

      Just remember this.

  12. 57 Vicki
    September 5, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Alec Baldwin is doing his own show on MSNBC at 10:00PM on Friday nights starting sometime in late October.

  13. September 5, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Rev Al knows how to plan surprises. (Wikipedia says Tamron’s birthday is Sep 16, so he was nearly 2 weeks early.)

    • 61 Dudette
      September 5, 2013 at 3:38 pm

      Aw, that’s sweet. I wonder what Lawrence going to give her. :-)

    • 65 anniebella
      September 5, 2013 at 4:05 pm

      Is Rev. Al one smooth brother.?

      • 66 carolyn
        September 5, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        This bouquet giving brings to mind something Rev. Al said last night on his “Friend or Foe, I want to know” segment. Someone asked him two things he likes to do that no one knows. He said the first is read. He reads all the time and LOVES it. The second..”.he’s not telling anyone, and if anyone pretends to know, they’re wrong”…..hmmmmmm……surprising beautiful girls with flowers maybe???

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm

      I heard that Rev Al is very generous with his lady friends. I am not saying that he is going with Tamaron but I am sure he respects her very much. Very beautiful arrangement.

  14. 70 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Thinking of going to the 2020 Olympics scuttlebutt is you’ll wanna brush up on your Castilian Spanish, ‘cuz you’re probably gonna be in Madrid.

    • 71 aquagranny911
      September 5, 2013 at 6:21 pm

      LOL! You can brush up on your Spanish but that won’t help. As two Spanish speakers from childhood, Hubby & I thought we could ‘blend in’ when we went to Spain. As soon as we opened our mouths, people said “Americans!” Spain is a wonderful country & the people are just delightful. Madrid is an incredibly beautiful city with so much culture. We loved it!

  15. 72 anniebella
    September 5, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    I am so fed up with these weak knees Democrats. Maybe all the Americans who is so against going after Syria need to see what’s it’s like to die from these chemical weapons.

  16. 73 kathryn kivett
    September 5, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Charlie Rangel is despicable!

  17. 74 anniebella
    September 5, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    So Rangel is on Bashir running his mouth against the President .

  18. 76 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Secretary Kerry will be on Chris Hayes’ show tonight. Not sure I can hold my nose long enough to watch that show.

  19. 80 desertflower
    September 5, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42479_Americans_Fear_Hackers_More_Than_the_Government_Over_Online_Privacy#rss

    the government and law enforcement authorities were well down the list at 5% and 4% respectively. The survey was conducted between 11 July and 14 July, well after the first revelations about the US National Security Agency’s surveillance activities broke.

    people aren’t buying what the emoleft and RW are trying to sell:)

  20. 81 jziglar
    September 5, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Charlie is a phony. Martin pointed out that he supported the (air strikes) operation in Kosovo when Bill Clinton was president, but now he says enough is enough. I wonder if that clown would have said the same thing if Hillary was president and ordering a strike. He is a bitter old fool who needs to retire.

    • 82 anniebella
      September 5, 2013 at 4:41 pm

      Rangel do not like President Obama, anyone can tell them by listening to him. And if it was Hillary, yes Rangel would support it.

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:44 pm

      He also said that he’s not feeling guilty about the 400 dead kids in Syria, because he has dead kids in his district. So there you have it. At least he said. Muslims killing Muslims – no big deal. It’s just surprising that Rangel would put some children’s lives as more important than others. You know being black and all and living under Stop & Frisk and the unjust drug laws. But I did tweet him and mentioned – Animal Farm. He probably didn’t get the reference.

  21. September 5, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Just read this at TPM. I think it’s fine if the Progressive caucus votes the way of their constituents ore votes their “conscious”, that’s fine, but “teaming up” with Tea Party folks just makes me want to quote the O’Jays classic in regards to the tea party folks, “smilling in your face, all the time wanting to take your place…

    House Progressives Look To Team Up With Tea Party On Syria Vote

    Please just vote your conscious, teaming up…phhshaw…enjoy the knife in your back later.

  22. 91 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Turns out Chris Hayes’ interview with Secretary Kerry just wrapped. Chris is coming on Bashir’s show in a couple mins to plug it.

    • 92 Jovie
      September 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      why did Kerry give that US hating freak a interview?

    • 94 dotster3
      September 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      As it turns out, Hayes was not pleased by what Kerry had to say, remains skeptical about everything. Shocker!

      • 95 Eveingeorgia
        September 5, 2013 at 5:20 pm

        Who, exactly , is Chris Hayes, and why does what he thnks matters? The way they ( management at MSNBC) are pushing this guy, one would think he had fought in a war, won won, commanded a bunch of people, and done a whole bunch of other stuff relative to expertise and authority. His interview with Martin was irritating, because he spoke as if his opinion really matters.

        Btw, I don’t think Martin had a choice but to put him on at the end. I would much rather have heard Clear the Air.

  23. 96 Jovie
    September 5, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    It’s not being filibustered in the senate, Rand Paul is not filibustering, thus a simple majority is needed.

    • 97 Jovie
      September 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      I would think the vote will be Tuesday.

    • September 5, 2013 at 5:25 pm

      Much as it pains me to say it, there was a headline in a Central PA newspaper that said that Pat Toomey (Tparty PA) will vote YES on the use of force. So, some Repubs will come forward as some Dems retreat.

    • 99 elo4obama/biden
      September 5, 2013 at 7:46 pm

      I think I read somewhere HERE that some rule or other legislation passed made it impossible to filibuster, thus simple majority vote would decide for the senate and the house.

  24. September 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Wow, um, I guess this Rep doesn’t quite understand the idea behind a “silent protest”, but she obviously understands passive aggressiveness.

    GOP Legislator Brings Fried Chicken To Capitol As Protest For Race Free Speech

    In a show of solidarity with a colleague who was rebuked last month for bringing up fried chicken during a discussion about the poverty rate among African-Americans, a Colorado lawmaker brought a box of chicken to the state capitol in Denver on Wednesday.

    During an Aug. 21 legislative task force meeting, state Sen. Vicki Marble (R) mentioned both barbeque and fried chicken as she addressed racial disparities in the poverty rate.

    “When you look at life expectancy, there are problems in the black race: sickle-cell anemia is something that comes up, diabetes is something that’s prevalent in the genetic makeup and you just can’t help it,” Marble said. “Although I’ve got to say, I’ve never had better barbeque and better chicken and ate better in my life than when you go down south and you — I love it.”

    The remarks were swiftly denounced by state Democrats while Republicans distanced themselves. Marble, for her part, insisted she did not not intend “to be disparaging to any community.”

    But on Wednesday, with the task force meeting for the first time since the flap, state Rep. Lori Saine (R) staged what she called a “silent protest” against the uproar generated by Marble’s remarks by placing a box of Popeye’s fried chicken on her desk.

    • September 5, 2013 at 5:28 pm

      Idiots are going to be idiots, lamh. There are people whose minds are simply closed and understand only absolute statements: All Italians are___; all Poles are__________; all Irish are__________; all African Americans are_________; all Latinos are______. They have binary minds and spend their lives in narrow tunnels, never seeing the light of the true human richness around them.

  25. 102 vcprezofan2
    September 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    A chance for YOUR voice to be heard?

    “Seeking Public Comment

    The Review Group is seeking public comments on all matters that the President has directed it to examine, namely, how in light of advancements in communications technologies, the United States can employ its technical collection capabilities in a manner that optimally protects our national security and advances our foreign policy while respecting our commitment to privacy and civil liberties, recognizing our need to maintain the public trust, and reducing the risk of unauthorized disclosure. Comments can be provided via reviewgroup@dni.gov. The deadline for public submissions is October 4, 2013.

    The comments you provide to the Review Group will be used to inform the group’s deliberations.”

    http://icontherecord.tumblr.com/post/60323228143/review-group-on-global-signals-intelligence

  26. 104 dotster3
    September 5, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Tweety was bad but Ed is worse. I can’t watch him at all. He’s just not very bright and too bellicose. Not a very deep thinker, or even a thinker at all. He just skims the surface and takes a position and yells it every day with no attempt or interest in getting to the truth. At least with Tweety, since he is always all over the place, up, down and all around, every 3rd segment, or every 3rd day, would be palatable.

  27. 105 Lovepolitics2008
    September 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    As more and more congress people express their opinions, it’s pretty obvious that Congress will say no to President Obama re: Syria. Given how the general population is opposed to it, and that Congress people very rarely go against the polls…

    My hope is that President Obama and his team has known this all along. After dealing with Congress for almost five years now, I just can’t imagine that he and his team believed Congress would give any other response. So what I would be very curious to know is what’s their overall strategy. This president is so smart, and is able to work at a big problem in a “multi-dimensional” way. I’m sure what we’re seeing in public is just a small part of what he’s trying to do. There is A LOT that we don’t know.

    He’s going to take a big hit in the media and be called a lot of names. But in the long run I hope he will be vindicated.

    He’s going to need all of our support. I’ve never seen in my lifetime a president with so much integrity, courage, and vision , who should command respect from everyone and yet is treated so unfairly. It’s unreal.

    For the record, I see that the Syria question is extremely difficult. I get it. But the President’s arguments ring true to me. It’s the long term global consequences that are scary to contemplate… Maybe it’s a little too soon for military action, and there’s still something else to do, but time is running up. And sadly, the weakness of the UN is being exposed right before our very eyes. Let’s pray that the President can pull off some kind of diplomatic miracle…

    • 106 99ts
      September 5, 2013 at 8:17 pm

      “Congress people very rarely go against the polls… ”

      Reword that – “congress people rarely support their current President”

    • 107 Nena20409
      September 5, 2013 at 8:50 pm

      Majority, 90% wanted background check. JOBS Bill. Transportation Bill, No sequester. Public Option, the Wealthy to pay tax rate same as during Bill Clinton’s time in office. No Cut in SS. Etc…..all that the House of Rep said: Hell No. They don’t do anything that the public wants.

      TARP? The public didn’t want Banks to be bailed out.


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