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Rise and Shine

Two years ago today: President Obama greets a man in the crowd after addressing the Labor Day celebration in Detroit, Mich., Sept. 5, 2011. (Photo by Pete Souza)

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Today:

This morning, President Obama met with the King and Queen of Sweden before departing Stockholm for Saint Petersburg, Russia for the G-20 summit.

Through the day, the President takes part in G-20 meetings and working sessions, finishing with a working dinner at 8:0 local time (Saint Petersburg is eight hours ahead of US Eastern)

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President Obama arrives to take part in the G20 Summit in St Petersburg, September 5

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President Barack Obama meets with Sweden’s King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia at the Royal Palace in Stockholm

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Nicholas Kristof (NYT): The Right Questions On Syria

Critics of American military action in Syria are right to point out all the risks and uncertainties of missile strikes, and they have American public opinion on their side. But for those of you who oppose cruise missile strikes, what alternative do you favor?

It’s all very well to urge the United Nations and Arab League to do more, but that means that Syrians will continue to be killed at a rate of 5,000 every month….

…. A decade ago, I was aghast that so many liberals were backing the Iraq war. Today, I’m dismayed that so many liberals, disillusioned by Iraq, seem willing to let an average of 165 Syrians be killed daily rather than contemplate missile strikes that just might, at the margins, make a modest difference.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which tracks the number of dead in the civil war, is exasperated at Western doves who think they are taking a moral stance.

…. how is being “pro-peace” in this case much different in effect from being “pro-Assad” and resigning oneself to the continued slaughter of civilians?

More here

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National Memo: Obama Still Most Popular World Leader

Though his popularity is down from its peak in 2009, President Obama remains the world’s most popular leader among the world’s citizens as the G20 gathers for a summit in Russia, according to Pew Research.

“Only Angela Merkel comes close to the breadth of Obama’s popularity,” writes Pew’s Andrew Kohut. However, Obama inspired more confidence than the German chancellor in seven out of eight major German countries polled last year.

…. President’s Obama’s median popularity of 42 percent is more than double that of G20 summit host Vladimir Putin’s 19 percent. The only country where Putin inspires more confidence than Obama is China.

More here

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Steve Benen: Jobless Claims Improve, Remain Near Six-Year Low

Today’s report on initial unemployment claims was widely expected to be good, but the newly released figures from the Department of Labor were even better than expected.

More here

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‘Sweden in World Focus’

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Smartypants:  Why The Most Liberal President In A Generation Is Driving Some Progressives Bonkers

Just as President Obama is taking huge steps to walk back the imperial presidency and making tremendous strides on issues like health care reform and LGBT rights and ending the war on drugs and fighting to curb climate change and ending the perpetual war and taking on the NRA and fighting for immigration reform and trying to curb the rising costs of college tuition and proposing things like a minimum wage increase along with universal day care, there is a group of progressives who have gone absolutely bonkers with their conspiracy theories about him. As Bob Cesca points out this morning, many of them are are so deranged that they’re staring to line up with tea party libertarians to destroy the Democratic Party.

Its no wonder that many of us are saying “WTH? Why now? You want to jump ship just when we’re starting to make some progress?”

To be honest, I’ve been trying to understand this particular variety of Obama Derangement Syndrome for quite a while now.

More here

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Steve Benen: Rumsfeld Just Keeps Talking

If there’s anyone in America who should go enjoy a little quiet time right about now, it’s failed former Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld. Nevertheless, he just keeps talking, appearing this morning on Fox News (thanks to my colleague Tricia McKinney for the heads-up) …Rumsfeld, who earned public scorn for his leadership of the Pentagon during the Iraq War, said Obama didn’t need to ask Congress for authorization and may have made a mistake in doing so.

Rumsfeld, who seemed generally supportive of intervention in Syria, added that President Obama “doesn’t have the kind of support that President Bush had in respect to his military actions.” Yep, he really said that. Part of me continues to wonder why Rumsfeld is still allowed to speak in polite company. Lance Armstrong isn’t asked for his opinions about athletes and performance-enhancing drugs; Miley Cyrus isn’t sought out for analysis on public modesty; so why should anyone take seriously what Donald Rumsfeld has to say foreign policy and the use of military force abroad?

Don’t go away mad, Rumsfeld. Just go away.

More here

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Jonathan Cohn: ObamaCare Implementation: Clinton Speech Gives The Big Picture

The Secretary of Explaining Stuff is back on the job. On Wednesday, former President Bill Clinton gave a speech about Obamacare—why it was necessary, how it will work, and what it will do in the future. In the speech, Clinton acknowledged some of Obamacare’s flaws and he urged Republicans to join Democrats in trying to fix them.

But Clinton also pointed out the benefits Obamacare has already produced. Young adults are getting insurance through their parents. The insured have new consumer protections, like those eliminating lifetime limits on benefits. Seniors have more coverage of prescription drugs and preventative services. The list goes on: In all, many millions of Americans are better off because of these provisions. Meanwhile, the year-to-year increases in health care spending have been lower than usual, which means government is saving money and premiums for the privately insured aren’t rising as fast as they would be otherwise. Obamacare isn’t the only reason for this change and it probably isn’t the primary reason, either. But most experts think it has played a role.

Those savings are likely to grow with time. Health improvement might follow, since the changes underway—like a reduction in hospital readmisisons—save lives as well as money. And that’s not all—not by a longshot. Starting next year, millions of people without insurance today will get coverage via expanded state Medicaid programs or through the new insurance exchanges. Thanks to generous federal subsidies, many people will pay less for their insurance than they pay now. And those who do pay more will at least have more comprehensive and stable coverage, while paying premiums that are pretty much comparable to what employer-sponsored insurance costs. Oh, and if the Congressional Budget Office is right, the deficit will be lower than it might otherwise be.

More here

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A Year Ago Yesterday (Chips had the photo and video ready to post yesterday, but then glitch-a-rama struck):

President Obama and his daughters Malia and Sasha watch on television as First Lady Michelle Obama begins her speech at the Democratic National Convention, in the Treaty Room of the White House, Sept. 4, 2012 (Photo by Pete Souza)

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On This Day:

President Obama hugs a woman in the crowd after addressing the Labor Day celebration in Detroit, Mich., Sept. 5, 2011 (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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129 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. September 5, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Thank yooooooooooooooooou UT, you golden nugget you!!

  2. 14 vcprezofan2
    September 5, 2013 at 9:13 am

    I like the fact that wherever our president finds himself, he looks ‘at ease’.

  3. September 5, 2013 at 9:16 am

    G’morning UT, Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone and congrats VC on #1! Thanks UT for another exciting R & S! :)

  4. 16 vcprezofan2
    September 5, 2013 at 9:16 am

    The First Daughters are no doubt back in school and already hitting the books. Have a great year, Malia and Sasha! You have blossomed so beautifully inside and out – may God continue to protect, guide and prosper you and your family. Thanks for the loan of your parents.

  5. 17 Ladyhawke
    September 5, 2013 at 9:17 am

    The Real Point of President Obama Going to Congress on Syria– Long Term

    BY Frank Schaeffer

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    By President Obama shocking the chattering classes with something utterly unexpected he’s insulted them. Expect cynical blow back. The talkers and pundits like to think they always see into the future, know more than the president and can outsmart him. They have been proved wrong again and again, on the economy – its back – on health care – it is working and on “Obamacare” – it will outlast the crazies in the Republican Party, and now on this stunning action. They will say he’s weak, vacillating, trying to blame Congress and so forth.

    Wrong.

    What this president’s critics don’t get – ever – is that President Obama thinks long range. That’s why he’s remained silent in the face of incessant racist-based Tea Party attacks. He knows he’s winning the future by not playing to their angry-black-man stereotype. That is why he’s never been the in-your-face lefty the left craves. He’s playing for keeps, not short term visceral satisfaction.

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    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frankschaeffer/2013/09/the-real-point-of-president-obama-going-to-congress-on-syria-long-term/

    • 18 Nena20409
      September 5, 2013 at 9:21 am

      Exceptionally……OK exquisitely well stated.

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:40 am

      THIS X 100,000 and then some!! Thank you, Frank Schaeffer.

      LATE to the party and celebration, but huge congrats, CHIPS. YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for this haven you have given all of us.

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:53 am

      I am standing and applauding Frank Schaeffer for this insightful piece. Thank you for posing it, LH.

    • 22 57andfemale
      September 5, 2013 at 10:50 am

      I have the utmost respect for Frank Schaeffer. He was raised and worked on the Dark Side, and comes to our side well informed, both in mind and spirit.

    • 23 majiir
      September 5, 2013 at 10:53 am

      I’ve been reading Frank Schaeffer for some time now, and he “gets” PBO. I think it has something to do with the many years he spent in the GOP and he and his father helping to establish the religious right. I think he really regrets his role in making the religious right a major player in American politics.

    • 24 Sandy1110
      September 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm

      Great assessment – and so true!

    • 25 arkluvspbo
      September 6, 2013 at 4:48 am

      I am so proud to say, Frank Schaeffer “faved” a comment of mine

  6. 26 vcprezofan2
    September 5, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I see the troops have arrived and I don’t need to hold the fort alone any longer, so I’ll graciously step down. :grin:

    • 27 Nena20409
      September 5, 2013 at 9:23 am

      Already 2 Gold Medal this early Sept 5th Morning?

      TODers be very aware…..VC is driving her Maserati or her Lamborghini ;)

      • 28 vcprezofan2
        September 5, 2013 at 9:42 am

        I just parked both, Nena. No worries. Now, I’m going to savour UTtal’s offerings.

        BTW, Utal, are you back in classes? I don’t understand how you students AND blog mistress multi-task so effectively, while I can’t even eat and comment at the same time.

  7. 29 Ladyhawke
    September 5, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Major New Study On Obamacare Premiums Should End The ‘Rate Shock’ Hysteria Once And For All

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/09/05/2575601/obamacare-premiums-expected-kaiser/

  8. 32 utaustinliberal
    September 5, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Good news!

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:56 am

      • 34 57andfemale
        September 5, 2013 at 10:54 am

        these headlines are encouraging; but within the poll the core of RWNJ’s at 30% want ACA repealed. So the headline is a little misleading. However, there is quite a bit of even better news this morning.

        Imagine if these traitors had allowed HHS to actually inform the American people about the law. Instead of faux outrage over whether or not PBO plays golf, how about the worthless media show some outrage over the fact that HHS can’t even afford to print up materials and send out a mailing on the most comprehensive law affecting Americans since Medicare?

  9. 35 sherijr
    September 5, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Can you believe it- No CheezyPuffs in my store this morning… thus I am instead Celebrating 21MILLION with a breakfast bowl of Caramel CHEESEcake Ice Cream :) :) Yowzer shoulda had this for breakfast longgg ago !

    Chips- you should know that I come here about 21 millions times a week.. just sayin’

    and Thank YOU… CHIPS, I could not have gotten through these “Obama years” without you and TOD guiding and informing us all so factually and beautifully. Long after POTUS is out of office.. when I think of him, and I will often, I will never do so without remembering you, TOD and all the awesomeness we’ve experienced here. Heartfelt forever gratitude to you.

  10. 44 JER
    September 5, 2013 at 9:29 am

    LIVE NOW: The G20 gets underway in St. Petersburg, Russia – http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  11. September 5, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Great start to the day. THANK YOU for everything you contribute to TOD, ut. You are an amazing woman!

  12. 50 utaustinliberal
    September 5, 2013 at 9:31 am

    More good news.

  13. 51 GGAIL
    September 5, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks, happy 21 million!!!

    Thanks UT for this great R&S.

    Congrats vc on first…again :-)

  14. September 5, 2013 at 9:41 am

  15. 61 Layla
    September 5, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Great morning Chips and all! My God Chips, it is pretty much mind blowing what you have done here..I am soo thankful for you and TOD! 21 million well deserved congrats!!!!!

  16. 63 japa21
    September 5, 2013 at 9:42 am

    I should note that Fugelsang is not in favor of a US led attack on Syria, but he has had enough with the POB/Bush comparisons. He tries to approach the whole thing from a more rationale point of view.

    • 64 hopefruit2
      September 5, 2013 at 9:58 am

      Exactly…

      The PBO/Bush comparisons are the intellectually lazy and disingenuous thinking that plagues our media.

    • 65 theo67
      September 5, 2013 at 11:26 am

      Agree with his sentiment, but one question: has John Fugelsang ever called President Obama by his title? I’m not a fan.

  17. September 5, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Good Morning all. 21 million congrats again for an awesome achievement Chips and Co.
    Putin pouting as usual. What a way to start the day.

  18. 68 japa21
    September 5, 2013 at 9:51 am

    So some of the extremely wealthy living and hiding their money abroad are showing their true patriotic colors. At least they won’t be able to vote for the GOP any more, or donate to the GOP candidates.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/04/news/citizenship-us-tax/index.html?iid=HP_LN

    • 69 Dudette
      September 5, 2013 at 9:59 am

      Fine. Those Takers can take their asses right on out to some other country. I say, “Get ta steppin'” and “Good riddance!”

  19. 70 Nena20409
    September 5, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Rafael Nadal Parera won yesterday:

    6-0. 6-2. 6-2.

    He effortlessly defeat the guy who dethroned Roger Federer 4 days ago.

    Ripped Rafa is off to Qtr Finals. Go get them Nada ;)

    Serena Williams took just less than an hour to eliminate her opponent…..6-0 and 6-0.

    She is off to Semi-final against Li…..from China.

  20. 78 Mellesia Barnett
    September 5, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Good Morning TOD’ers. 21 million CONGRATULATIONS Chips

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  22. 80 WilTal
    September 5, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Good morning everyone,

    Congrats to the 21 million Lady, Chips! UT, thank you for another Fabuloso R&S!

    I love how our President runs up/down the steps of AF1 (he’s so damn fit and fine too).

  23. 82 Nena20409
    September 5, 2013 at 9:59 am

    What is wrong with Putin’s Face?

    It looks like these actors injecting some chemicals into their facial skin tissues.

    My goodness…..if Putin’s face were to be poked with a pin, I am certain that it will pop like a deflated balloon.

    • 83 WilTal
      September 5, 2013 at 10:04 am

      Putin is a pompous POS.

      • 84 majiir
        September 5, 2013 at 11:18 am

        When he first sees PBO, it seems to me as if Putin was trying to size him up and was trying to figure out who he’s dealing with. This is something he’ll ever have full knowledge of. He thinks he has PBO pegged, but he doesn’t know with whom he’s dealing. PBO will be cordial to him, will try to find common ground with him, but he will NOT allow Putin or anyone else to take advantage of him. Putin is dealing with the man that Netanyahu thought he could push around, only to come crawling back to him with his tail between his legs. We have heard no more belligerence from Bibi toward PBO. You don’t grow up as a POC in America and not know how to deal with your detractors. This is something that republicans have yet to understand.

  24. 88 Nena20409
    September 5, 2013 at 10:02 am

    I Love that Dress FLOTUS wore a year ago.

    The color, the fit and the occupant of that Fabulous dress……..well, what to say, but to give it up to our Fantastic FLOTUS :!:

  25. 89 jacquelineoboomer
    September 5, 2013 at 10:03 am

    UT – Mornin’ and thanks for the fully loaded Rise and Shine!

    Love how David Plouffe uses the term “our President” in his tweet – just like we do! None of us probably remember using that “our” part so fondly, writing about any of our previous presidents!

    Love the top Labor Day photo – when the President meets and greets real live Americans who are glad to see him! And I spotted the “Putin welcome” this morning on the teevee and laughed and laughed. Still chuckling.

  26. 90 hopefruit2
    September 5, 2013 at 10:14 am

    So SOS Kerry will be interviewed by Chris *barf* Hayes…. Hmmm…Why do I think Phil Griffin orchestrated that? He seems to be extremely invested in elevating Hayes to an undeserved status. Needless to say, I won’t be watching. I already know what Kerry has said, and what PBO has had to say on the Syria issue. I don’t need to watch Hayes arrogant’ posturing and hostile, “gotcha” questioning, but if Kerry bitch slaps that little twerp, I will know about it from Twitter.

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:21 am

      From last week. The linked article is just an excerpt of the whole story, which I guess is behind a paywall. :(

      • 92 hopefruit2
        September 5, 2013 at 10:30 am

        Griffin is wholly in denial when it comes to Hayes because he doesn’t want to admit that he miscalculated in his decision to promote him to prime time slot. And Griffin is confused (or dishonest) about who is a liberal and who isn’t. A lot of people who call themselves “liberal” are nothing but RW Libertarians. True Liberals are not interested in seeing our President disingenuously attacked night after night, while the likes of Glen Greenwald are being upheld as paragons of morality and honesty and the rest of the GOP are routinely given a pass on their dangerous and obstructive behavior.

        Bringing John Kerry on for an interview is not going to change anything. If anything, Hayes is likely to childishly double down on his emoprogery and Libertarianism to “show” his friends that he can stick it to Obama’s SOS.

        • 93 majiir
          September 5, 2013 at 11:12 am

          “Bringing John Kerry on for an interview is not going to change anything.”

          EXACTLY. Hayes gets on my last nerve with his “know it all” attitude, plus, he tore his butt with me when he went all gaga over Edward “Loser” Snowden. I won’t be watching it, either, hopefruit.

    • 94 cos
      September 5, 2013 at 10:23 am

      I don’t care who they bring to Hayes’ show, I will not watch. If PBO appeared on his show, I would wait for the video.

    • 95 Nena20409
      September 5, 2013 at 10:25 am

      Chris Hayes is about to be schooled by SoS Kerry as he did Little Rand Paul.

      • 96 hopefruit2
        September 5, 2013 at 10:35 am

        My concern is that Kerry will go easy on Hayes because he is relatively “young,” and looks and acts even younger than he is.

        Thus Hayes will come out of the interview feeling like a million bucks – that he “stuck it” to Kerry. Like I said, Griffin must have coordinated this set up and decided that Hayes (instead of Lawrence, Ed Schultz or Rev Al who are more mature and who have better ratings) should do the interview.

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:35 am

      I saw an article tooting a horn about Chris Hayes’ ratings going up in their new lineup. So Griffin and Hayes are very encouraged. Can’t believe people even watch this crap. UGH.

      • 100 hopefruit2
        September 5, 2013 at 10:54 am

        For the amount of publicity and hype he has received, and given that his show is in prime time, his ratings are low, and no amount of spin can change that.

        The arrogance of Griffin and Hayes is disturbing in view of the fact that they are not willing to even consider the possibility that Hayes’ relentless and one-sided pitching of Libertarian drivel to a more mainstream audience is not well-received.

        • September 5, 2013 at 11:12 am

          It absolutely shocks me that a major cable/network would sink money into such fringe idiocy. I really don’t get it.

          • 102 Lovepolitics2008
            September 5, 2013 at 12:51 pm

            They are giving a disproportionate voice to “the left”. There are maybe money considerations because they think the “emoprogs” are political junkies who are watching more political shows on tv. But the ratings of Reverend Al are a pretty good indicator that they’re wrong from a business point of view.

            So, what’s going on ?

            An hypothesis: their long term goal is to weaken the democratic coalition by feeding cynicism to “liberals”. Keeping them constantly unsatisfied, and suspicious of the actions of democrats in Congress and in the Oval Office. So more “liberals” will “stay home” in 2014, and 2016.

      • 103 Nena20409
        September 5, 2013 at 10:55 am

        Two days…..Wed and Thurs last week. Hayes bested Maddow. Friday…..AC360 knocked the Keith Olbermann wannabee off.

        • September 5, 2013 at 12:06 pm

          If he’s so great why did they bring Ed back? Why are they shopping his face all over the other shows? Is Ed’s show before his….he’s riding off the coattails of Ed being back. Try putting him on before Ed and see his numbers drop.

  27. 105 Ladyhawke
    September 5, 2013 at 10:14 am

    WHO KNEW??

    Latest Snowden leak: US is spying on al Qaeda

    BY Smartypants

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    Wait a minute! I thought this conversation about NSA surveillance was supposed to be about how the government was invading our privacy. At least that was the rationale Edward Snowden used for stealing classified documents.

    But while we’ve all been talking about Syria, where the intelligence gathering of several countries is helping answer the questions about the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons, the most recent Snowden revelations have clearly gone off the rails.

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    Read the full post here ……

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/09/latest-snowden-leak-us-is-spying-on-al.html

  28. September 5, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Here’s a great article. Its from Huffington Post, which I know sucks, but I’ve been following this guy for years, and its worth the read. He’s married to Jan Schkowsky (Congresswoman from Illinois). I know I thrashed her name. His name is Robert Creamer:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/why-the-congressional-res_b_3873036.html

  29. September 5, 2013 at 10:17 am

  30. 112 Allison
    September 5, 2013 at 10:27 am

    GM All,
    Chips major congrats on 21MM. Well-deserved!! Thank you very much for a safe-haven for all President Obama supporters. Priceless!

    Excellent R&S, UT!

  31. 118 Dudette
    September 5, 2013 at 10:34 am

    :cool:

  32. 119 kathryn kivett
    September 5, 2013 at 10:35 am

    I have been thinking….again….and have come to the conclusion that I am against strikes on Syria……as I am sure PBO is against them also….If we lived in a utopia world I would rather use the money that a strike involves to help get those out of Syria that want to leave and help the several million that are already out…..but…..I trust PBO…if he thinks that a strike is necessary to protect our National interests I trust his judgement. He knows more about what is going on and has the wisdom to deal with it than media pundits, talking heads, Congress critters, and anyone on this or any other blog, twitter etc;…….I have also come to the conclusion that if every Democrat does not vote in support of PBO I am finished with the Democratic Party…..I can not remain in a political party that would humiliate PBO with a NO vote. I have just had it with Democrats eating their own.

    • 120 japa21
      September 5, 2013 at 10:44 am

      I agree with you that PBO is, in reality, reluctantly pushing for the strikes. It disgusts me that the man who pulled us out of Itraq, is pulling us out of Afghanistan, keep us in a limited role in Libya, and, despite being pushed hard by both members of his cabinet and others to do something more in Syria earlier, is being called a warmonger by so many on the left.

      I disagree in your last assessment. I can see many reasons for a person to vote no on an airstrike, and not just political ones. If a Democrat truly is against them and not just trying to figure out how a no vote will help him/her in the election next year, then I have no real problem with them voting no. I criticized a lot of Republicans for votying for the invasion of Iraq just to be seen as supportive of the President so it would be hypocritical of me to criticize Dems that vote no now.

      I do get tired, sometimes, of the thinking that no Democrat should disagree with or vote differently from the way the President wants. This would be like cheering for the same lockstep mindset I found so abhorrent in the GOP during the Bush years and now.

      • 121 theo67
        September 5, 2013 at 11:40 am

        Hi Japa and Kathryn – if I can put my two cents in. I wouldn’t have a problem with ‘no’ votes, if they were accompanied by feasible alternatives. There are almost no good options in this scenario. A brutal man released chemical gas on women, children and men – his own country folks. There are many brutal men in this world, and many of them come into power, or fight to hold onto their power. Imagine the message if the world does nothing to punish this act? There are a lot of lessons in history that we seem to be forgetting, where a little global action might have saved lives, or ended a war sooner than it had to.

        I don’t like military strikes – and I’m pretty sure many thinking people don’t. I hate brutality and tyranny more. And I fear for our future safety as global citizens if people like Assad are left to pat themselves on the back because the world turns a blind eye to his atrocities. We’ve turned a blind eye for two years, going about our business while people have been fleeing and dying in Syria, at the hands of a man who wasn’t fairly elected, but who had his position handed down to him by his father. There has to be a point where the world bands together to act, not just to lament.

        I sent my representative a question yesterday via twitter, asking whether he’s willing to do more and offer more suggestions than simply signing on to Congressional letters chastising and warning the President, and honoring Holocaust victims – while not seeing any similarities in current times. We have to do everything we can to stop this cruelty.

        • 122 kathryn kivett
          September 5, 2013 at 11:53 am

          You expressed that so much better than I could…it’s exactly how I feel….If there is an alternative to military strikes, express them…otherwise a No vote says I am turning my back on Assad’s atrocities and giving him the green light to continue…it doesn’t involve me and mine so “Proceed, Assad”……

      • 124 kathryn kivett
        September 5, 2013 at 11:42 am

        I agree with your point about not disagreeing with PBO…there have been times I disagreed with him also…..and this time, without actually knowing any of the facts, for sure, in my heart I might disagree…..but……this time, iMO,it is crucial to stand behind him, for by not doing so emboldens our internal enemies and our international enemies which is more dangerous in the long run. This time to me it’s a matter of trust…..you either trust PBO or you don’t……and I trust PBO not to get us into another war.

  33. 125 desertflower
    September 5, 2013 at 10:46 am

    I’m here!! Just been reading all the goodies that UT and TOD’ers left this morning! Frank Schaffer’s piece was brilliant! Something all of us have known all along, but good to see that we’re not alone in understanding this. About damn time!

    Morning, Dudette! You’re up early….yes, I DO know all about how some people give the gifts to others that they really want! I have first hand experience with that very affliction. It’s what happens when you get a new big ass TV right before the Super Bowl:) My husband was SOOOOO concerned that “I” had just a little one to watch:) ( How I knew it was really for him? I hardly ever WATCH TV!)

    Did I miss a big posting of the fact that dental coverage will be included in people’s healthcare?? I think that we should post that info BOLDLY! It’s awesome news and very unexpected…I think others will share that info widely….

    Have to tutor today, but I have 4 glorious days off to spend with this family…..More ice cream please!! One other question…and this is a biggie… WHERE’S AMK?????

  34. September 5, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Well howdy doody all you O’s!!!! It’s another great getting up day in TODville!!! I’ve been so disconnected during my last trip for #1 and her #1 birthdays that I missed Chips 21 millionth click. Congrats chica for a job well done. Can’t wait to share the next 21 million clicks with the TOD fam.

  35. 129 japa21
    September 5, 2013 at 10:57 am


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