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Chat Away

President Obama participates in a “Civil Society Roundtable” in St Petersburg, Russia. At left is Igor Kochetkov, chairman of the Russian LGBT Network

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And back home:

More later – chat away!


113 Responses to “Chat Away”


  1. 8 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Chips if you are able, could you add a link (or two) to Ambassador Powelll’s upcoming speech? I know whitehouse.gov is showing it, and Cspan.org and CSPAN one TV are showing it.

  2. 11 Ladyhawke
    September 6, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    joshuafoust ‏@joshuafoust 1m

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    When people complain about theoretical NSA surveillance-abuse but don’t mind marketers secretly tracking their every mouse click, I wonder.

    ———————————-

    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin

  3. 14 Dakota
    September 6, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Could it be???

  4. 18 yardarm756
    September 6, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Nothing in life compares to the
    splendor of a beautiful day!!

    That Ain’t Stanley(WHPressCorp)

    Stanley died in a fire and his body was burned pretty badly. The
    morgue needed someone to identify the body, so they sent for his
    two best deer hunting friends, Cooter and Gomer.

    The three men had always hunted and fished together and were long time members of a hunting camp. They were inseparable.

    Cooter arrived first and when the mortician pulled back the sheet,
    Cooter said, “Yup, his face is burned up pretty bad. You better roll
    him over.”

    The mortician rolled him over and Cooter said, “Nope, ain’t Stanley.”

    The mortician thought this was rather strange, So he brought Gomer
    in to confirm the identity of the body.

    Gomer looked at the body and said, “Yup, he’s pretty well burnt up, roll him over. ”

    The mortician rolled him over and Gomer said, “No, it ain’t Stanley.”

    The mortician asked, “How can you tell?”

    Gomer said, “Well, Stanley had two ass-holes”

    “What! He had two ass-holes?” exclaimed the mortician.

    “Yup, we never actually seen ‘em but everybody used to say, ‘There’s
    Stanley with them two ass-holes.’”

  5. 21 JER
    September 6, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    LIVE NOW: Ambassador Power Speaks on Syria – http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

  6. September 6, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Amb Power is commanding and I’m grateful she is at a place where she is most effective.

  7. 23 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 2:42 pm
    • September 6, 2013 at 3:20 pm

      If Kevin Drum is just now getting off the Snowden train, he’s very slow witted, indeed.

      • 25 hopefruit2
        September 6, 2013 at 3:29 pm

        He’s getting off the Snowden train because it’s no longer profitable, since it’s clear that the more Snowden’s name comes up the worse it is for him, and the better PBO looks. That’s the only way the MSM stops talking about an issue…

        • 26 99ts
          September 6, 2013 at 7:39 pm

          Very observant statement hf – the Media drops every issue when it turns to favor the admin – the penny has dropped about Snowden’s motives – be interesting to see how soon MSNBC pundits drop GG from their favored visitors

      • September 6, 2013 at 3:32 pm

        If he had been paying attention he would have jumped off the minute Snowden touched down in Hong Kong. That’s what happens when you throw all logic and reason out the window in an effort to turn a traitor/spy into a misunderstood hero.

  8. September 6, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Test. On my iPhone. :)

  9. 33 itgurl_29
    September 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    FLOTUS looks amazing! Seriously, she can put women 20 years younger than her to shame. I hope I look like this when I’m almost 50.

  10. 34 yardarm756
    September 6, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    My final one. See ya soon. North woods here I come.

    > Three Holy Men and a Bear
    >
    > A Catholic Priest, a Baptist Preacher and a Rabbi all served as Chaplains to the students of Northern Michigan University at Marquette in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
    >
    > They would get together two or three times a week for coffee and to talk shop.
    >
    > One day, someone made the comment that preaching to people isn’t really all that hard, a real challenge would be to preach to a bear.
    >
    > One thing led to another and they decided to do an experiment. They would each go out into the woods, find a bear, preach to it and attempt to convert it to their religion.
    >
    > Seven days later, they all came together to discuss their experiences.
    >
    > Father Flannery, who now had his arm in a sling, was on crutches, and had
    > various bandages on his body and limbs, was the first to report back.
    >
    > ‘Well,’ he said, ‘I went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him, I began to read to him from the Catechism.
    >
    > Well, that bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my holy water, sprinkled him and Holy Mary Mother of God, he became as gentle as a lamb. The Bishop is coming out next week to give him first communion and confirmation.’
    >
    > Reverend Billy Bob spoke next. He was now in a wheelchair, had one arm and both legs in casts and had an IV drip.
    >
    > In his best fire-and-brimstone oratory, he exclaimed, ‘WELL, brothers, you KNOW that we Baptists don’t sprinkle! I went out and I FOUND me a bear. And then I began to read to my bear from God’s HOLY WORD! But that bear wanted nothing to do with me.
    >
    > So I took HOLD of him and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, UP another and DOWN another until we came to a creek. So I quickly DUNKED him and BAPTIZED his hairy soul. And just like you said, he became as gentle as a lamb. We spent the rest of the day praising Jesus. Hallelujah!
    >
    > The Priest and the Reverend both looked down at the Rabbi, who was now lying in a hospital bed. He was in a complete body cast with traction, with IVs and monitors running in and out of him. He was in really bad shape.
    >
    > The Rabbi looked up and said: “Looking back on it, ….circumcision may not have been the best way to start.”

  11. 41 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    So David Corn has initiated his little unscientific Twitter survey – by first framing the question to elicit negative responses: “Is there anyone who supports Obama on #syria” Note he makes it all about Obama, says nothing about the actual brutality being waged, the deaths of innocent children and the violation of international norms.

    Then he claims he’s retweeting “interesting” responses, but retweets all the negative ones and only some of the positive ones. Clearly he got more positive responses than he bargained for, so he then says: opinions are “severely” split among people who otherwise agree on most things.

    LMAO! If you don’t have your wits about you with this media and their agenda, they could really control your mind completely with their propaganda.

    • 42 symmetry11
      September 6, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      Someone should go to his mentions and retweet all the positive ones.

    • 43 Don
      September 6, 2013 at 3:31 pm

      David Corn is nothing but a small man with even smaller ideas; he is a Georgetown pimp who fancies himself a big thinker.

    • September 6, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      Well, Hf, the number of people who have even heard of David Corn is miniscule and the number of those who value his opinion is even smaller. These people reveal themselves for what they are–arrogant, contemptuous haters who think their opinion and biases are of value to the world.

    • September 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm

      I just tweeted my support to him and looked through his TL. He is getting a LOT of tweets supporting POTUS and for many different reasons.

      • 47 hopefruit2
        September 6, 2013 at 4:25 pm

        Yes, and I suspect he didn’t quite anticipate that level of support. When you’re surrounded by the Hayes & Maddows and all the antiObama folks at MSNBC, you can easily lose perspective of where the mainstream public really stands.

        And some of these manufactured polls on Syria are not credible. Reminds me of the Obamacare polling. you frame questions in way designed to get negative responses, and you’ll get just that.

  12. September 6, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    From last week’s #ActionAugust:

  13. 51 Don
    September 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    I’ve pretty much given up on damn near everyone as it relates to President Obama, the right and the left no longer serve a purpose as far as I’m concerned. Before President Obama came into office you couldn’t find one elected official black or white that talked about doing the things that President Obama talked about doing. President Obama put his ass on the line for every segment of society black and white, gay and straight. A lot of people talk about changing the game, but President Obama was the only person in my life time that has actually changed the game.

    • 52 theo67
      September 6, 2013 at 4:01 pm

      You’re right. The 2016 election, and beyond, should be very interesting. One proposed amendment to your post, if I may? Plenty of people “talked” about a lot of what President Obama is doing. Very few did anything to turn talk into reality. Just look at how President Obama had to beg Congress to vote for Obamacare – a bill that was a century in the making – promised by every Democratic presidential candidate since history started taking notes, and not a few Republicans. When the time came to put their money where their mouths had been, the President was on the phone 24 hours a day, and had to campaign for the bill almost single-handedly -> hence, 2010 results.

      So many of the things that President Obama is doing, he’s received very little unprompted support from Democrats. Where is the black caucus in driving all the opportunities they’re demanding from the President – even while they ignore what he’s already done? Where are the climate change proponents in heralding what he’s done with the EPA, after a comprehensive bill from Sen Boxer (and Sen Kerry, if I recall) couldn’t make it out of committee? What are Democrats doing about voting rights? Have they used their scarce air time to demand a vote, and to raise awareness, or to take care that their own constituents are eligible to vote? What about education foreign relations, trade, health, the economy? Where are they? Yes, I understand that they struggle to get air time with the right wing controlled media – but I wasn’t invited to any town halls or sent any information packets from my representatives while they’ve been on vacation for the past five weeks – did anyone else?

      They talk and talk. And talk. And fail to act. And then criticize the one person who’s actually trying to do something. 2016 should be very interesting – especially since a lot of people are already pushing candidates who haven’t declared their own intentions for their agenda, and don’t necessarily have a good track record for making things happen…

  14. 54 Linda
    September 6, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    I find it very disturbing that the commander of one of the radical syrian groups that conducted the killings of syrian soldiers that has surfaced is named ” Issa ” .

  15. September 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm
  16. September 6, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Got back too late to comment on the last ‘press conference’ thread, but wanted to say that I was heartened when PBO responded to one of
    the WHPC idiots that he expected the reaction he’s getting in Congress. He knew he would be dealing with idiots and haters in the dysfunctional House and he went ahead anyway. I think the principle of a constitutional democracy is so important to him that he pressed forward despite his certain knowledge that getting Congressional support was going to be, as he said, “a heavy lift.” Also I think he’s positioning this Congress to bear the moral responsibility for what happens now in Syria, so there will be no question about what the president “shoulda, coulda, woulda” done.
    He can rightfully say to them, ‘I gave you your chance to act as statesmen and you blew it for all the world to see.’ And, finally, though it seems far-fetched, could the president be enabling this orgy of anti-Obama hatred on Syria, so that the venom-filled House Republicans will be slightly worn out when it comes to the Continuing Resolution and debt ceiling debate. Next week there will be a full court press on Syria, from the White House to the American people and to various caucuses in the House and Senate. I don’t know whether they’ll work or not, but I’ve come to the point of peace about this. The president is confident in his own skin. He will not be worn down. Slowly, but inexorably, things will get done according to the plan he has laid out for his second term. And slow, inexorably, justice will be done in Syria. In the meantime, we have to build our forces and focus them like a laser beam on bringing out the vote in 2014.

    • 58 carolyn
      September 6, 2013 at 3:47 pm

      Thank you jackieg. You have said exactly what I’ve been thinking. Our president didn’t get where he is now, coming from his background, without being able to suss out what people are going to do. Once again, we are in this with him for the long haul. Americans got so used to shotgun decisions without any consideration or planning, they still don’t know what to do with a thoughtful, conscientious president, and that includes Congress.
      Actually, I don’t think Congress will vote for this, but that is not the end of the plan.

    • September 6, 2013 at 3:51 pm

      I’m not sure about the answers to the questions you posed – I think we’ll just have to take a “wait and see” approach on the entire thing. I do think that wearing down House Repubs is a nice side effect of the public Syria debate, but I don’t think it was part of the design or rationale for having a public debate. I do think you’re absolutely right about the President’s high regard for constitutional democracy and knowing how this would go down with Congress. They have proven to be largely a body of people without conscience and care for the plight of those whose votes they aren’t courting… or common decency.

    • September 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm

      In the meantime, we have to build our forces and focus them like a laser beam on bringing out the vote in 2014.

      ************************

  17. September 6, 2013 at 3:50 pm
  18. 64 vcprezofan2
    September 6, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    >> Important discovery = It’s very hard to ‘chat away’ when you are unfamiliar with the topic of conversation.

    - Hmmmmm. Maybe you should start your own topic.

    >> But what if no one knows what you’re talking about?

    - NP. They mostly don’t get what U talk about anyways.

    >> Oh! O-kay.

    >> Hey guys, where is POTUS at this moment? Does anyone know?

    • September 6, 2013 at 3:54 pm

      Helloooooooooo VC! POTUS is on his way home!

      • 66 vcprezofan2
        September 6, 2013 at 3:58 pm

        Hi, CC. Thanks! The next week watching Congress’ song and dance and the punditry’s pundit-ing should be mighty ‘interesting’.

        • September 6, 2013 at 4:00 pm

          It will VC, it’s going to be a long week.

        • 68 Layla
          September 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm

          Here is what I think it is going to be vc:
          boring
          disgusting
          familiar
          repulsive
          ugly
          unattractive
          unimpressive
          usual
          disenchanting
          repellent
          dull
          unexciting
          unstimulating

          • 69 vcprezofan2
            September 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm

            Familiar, I’m sure. However I’m going to take a pass on the others descriptors as I borrow some of PBO’s hope. My hope is to see, within the 2013 American Congress, a glimmer of leadership on an issue that really doesn’t lend itself to partisanship. IMO this is the perfect opportunity for many GOP to lay down their Obama arms and DO SOMETHING. I’m not suggesting they all agree with PBO. I want to see them show some independent thinking using facts and no innuendo as they make decisions. .

            • 70 Layla
              September 6, 2013 at 4:48 pm

              My hope is with PBO only. I have little faith in congress or those TV personalities. They have shown who they are as far as I am concerned. PBO will manoeuver through this with grace as he always does. They may in the end vote yes but not without some very ugly posturing. Just my opinion.

    • September 6, 2013 at 3:58 pm
      • 77 vcprezofan2
        September 6, 2013 at 4:05 pm

        Wowee, the services of the Chips-Obama Travel Group are so, so, so top notch – in a class by its own is COTG!! Thank you, Mme Proprietress. Your company’s service is much appreciated! :razz:

        • 78 hopefruit2
          September 6, 2013 at 4:15 pm

          LOL – Vc I see you’ve finally made it – was asking about you on the other thread :) Just wanted to say a special thank you for your fighting the good fight on Twitter last night and having my back when those silly trolls (e.g., erotikka) got annoyed with what I had to say!!

          • 79 vcprezofan2
            September 6, 2013 at 4:27 pm

            Hi Hf!I came in through this door today, so I haven’t seen your earlier greeting yet. In a way I’m still reeling from the comment Erotikka made – it seemed so cold and uncalled for. The idea that disagreeing with someone is good reason to call for his/her death really stopped me in my tracks.

            Did you see her supporter who wanted to ‘engage’ me by suggesting I kill myself? :roll: These people are both silly, and ‘dangerous’, to themselves. I can’t imagine that they are happy in themselves.

            • 80 hopefruit2
              September 6, 2013 at 4:37 pm

              Oh no – I didn’t even realized you were attacked in that way. That was totally uncalled for and completely out of line. That’s really sad. And yes, they are miserable, and clearly are angry GOPers/Libertarians/Emoprogs who hate to hear the truth about themselves. Many times they are actually sockpuppets of certain media or GOP congressional figures, and get very angry when faced with the truth about themselves and their agendas.

              • 81 vcprezofan2
                September 6, 2013 at 4:52 pm

                NTW, Hf. It was an interesting experience for me, because though I hate confrontation I felt really calm throughout. The one who made the kill yourself suggestion actually walked that back a bit before we parted ways. In fact if I wasn’t so sleepy, there were a few more comments I wanted to make. For starters, I wanted to know if one of the participants felt that religiously repeating a statement (that PBO commanded people to commit murders) made it true. In short, the exchange was …… interestingly bizarre, at least for me. ;) ;)

                • 82 hopefruit2
                  September 6, 2013 at 4:56 pm

                  LOL! Indeed Vc, when you peel back the layers of braggadocio on Twitter, they are really frightened, brainwashed souls who are lashing out at the wrong people.

                  • September 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm

                    You’re so right, hf. After our very successful Latino/rally on Saturday, we got nice coverage in our local paper with photos that were also put online. Keep in mind that the event was largely paid for by the small group of people that put it on and dug deep into their pockets for all the entertainment, food, etc. Well a disgusting bigot wrote wanting to know how many of his taxpayer dollars went to providing free food and entertainment for “those people.” It was not worth my time and energy to reply to someone like this, but it underscores that people filled with hate have to live with it every day. Hate leads to more hate and ends up poisoning you. As you said, “frightened, brainwashed souls” who have not one single idea what they’re talking about, but just regurgitate someone’s garbage.

                  • 84 vcprezofan2
                    September 6, 2013 at 5:37 pm

                    Their unswerving loyalty to people who don’t care a fig for them, remind me of this quote.

                    ‘People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them.’ ~Eric Hoffer

                • 85 Betsy
                  September 7, 2013 at 1:36 am

                  Was this on twitter, VC?

                  • 86 vcprezofan2
                    September 7, 2013 at 11:31 am

                    (A late) Good Morning, Betsy! Yes it was. Not that it’s worth checking, but it should be in my TL. (I didn’t go back to check as living through it was enough. ;) )

            • 87 theo67
              September 6, 2013 at 4:49 pm

              Yikes! What horrible little people.

      • 91 CaliCat
        September 6, 2013 at 8:37 pm

        So glad he’s on his way home. I’m looking forward to his address to the nation on Syria. I think he’ll gain a lot more support from it. There’s been mostly one-sided hysterics coming from left/right/media so lots of folks are basing their opinion on that. PBO’s speeches always break through the B.S. This one will be no different.

  19. 92 japa21
    September 6, 2013 at 4:03 pm
  20. September 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Have never had the experience on twitter of posting a tweet and then finding that somehow twitter has managed to multiply it at several subsequent times. Odd …

    #FORWARD

  21. 94 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Let the truth be told. I’m not holding back…

    • 95 vcprezofan2
      September 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm

      Scher makes a valid point that we might want to help push out there. Sometimes I think SOME people just need a little added emphasis on, or reminder of, the real facts. They hear the resounding noise of the ‘newstainers’ over and over again, and unconsciously forget the evidence supporting the truth, even if they ‘feel’ what they’re hearing is not ‘right’. How many times have we here had someone share an O-memory, or an old O-video and thought, ‘Hey, I had forgotten THAT!’ or said ‘Thanks for reminding me of THAT!’

      There’s going to be a lot of noise this coming week, and in all the noise many will forget that PBO’s FP record is not in any way similar to Bush’s. It’s sad that Bush has so damaged the landscape both here and abroad during his terms in office, and that PBO consequently has to ‘fight’ to be accepted on his own merit, but he is up to the task. In the meantime we can do our small part to spread truth to our contacts and ask them to keep the chain of meaningful information going. I think if we calmly and confidently point to PBO’s efforts, history, AND CHARACTER in all this, we may just help to defuse, in some small way, the paranoia that the president is taking us into war. Give it a try, please.

  22. 96 57andfemale
    September 6, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    okay, the report by AJA on the latest Snowdenwald b.s. was just as annoying as the ‘reports’ on msnbc and cnn. I expected (or hoped) that they would at least make the distinction between capability and what exactly has been used. Like WARRANTS.

    They did say that ‘experts’ know that the success of any nation in the 21st century will center on who is the most advanced at this stuff (they actually said it better, but I’m pissed).

    A few demerits for AJA.

  23. 97 Ladyhawke
    September 6, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    YOUR OPINION IS NO LONGER REQUIRED ON MATTERS OF WAR AND PEACE

    Bush casts a long shadow

    By Steve Benen

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    Karl Rove argued this afternoon that President Obama has created a “longing” for a “decisive” George W. Bush. I’m reasonably certain Rove wasn’t kidding.
    .
    .
    The fact that Karl Rove and his allies even feel justified speaking in public about these issues is evidence of extraordinary chutzpah.

    Indeed, many of those responsible for Iraq — Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Dan Senor, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer, and others — seem to keep popping up on my television, as if they have some credibility that Americans should find valuable.

    They do not.

    ——————————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/06/20361894-bush-casts-a-long-shadow

    • 98 theo67
      September 6, 2013 at 4:48 pm

      It’s insulting. To every family that lost a service member. To every service member that lost their life. To the citizens who were lied into war. To the people of Iraq, who were plunged into chaos. To those who need help now, but are faced with a cynical world. George Bush’s posse of idiots and war mongers just need to go away. Preferably, to the Hague.

  24. 99 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    This should be spread far and wide – it begs the question of why congress is suddenly skeptical about this President’s ability to maintain a limited intervention when they were all gung ho with Bill Clinton.

    HEADLINE: When 90% of Democrats in Congress Voted for a Democratic President’s Military Intervention in a Humanitarian Crisis

    // It passed the Senate by a 58-41 vote, and failed in the House in a 213-213 tie. 93% of Democrats in the Senate voted for it, as did 86% of House Democrats – that made for 42 Democratic senators and 180 Democratic House members. It was the Congressional resolution to allow the United States to intervene militarily, unilaterally if needed, to end a humanitarian catastrophe – under a Democratic president. It was the humanitarian catastrophe of death and displacements in Kosovo. President Clinton lead an airstrike despite the failure of the vote in Congress, under the NATO umbrella. …

    …Why was Bill Clinton, who despite being a good president, ended no significant military conflicts, to be more trusted than Barack Obama, after he has successfully ended two wars and took out America’s public enemy number one after the two presidents preceding him – one Republican and the other a Democrat – failed?

    This is something we should think about. This is something Democrats in Congress should think about. If they are taking out their anger against Bush on the current president’s policies, they need to stop and think. If they do not believe that Barack Obama deserves the same deference and respect on national security issues as Bill Clinton (despite being a categorically more successful national security president), they should explain why. //

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/09/when-90-of-democrats-in-congress-voted.html

  25. 100 Ladyhawke
    September 6, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Tommy Vietor ‏@TVietor08 23h

    —————————————

    Tragic RT “@evanperez: Rep Grimm on @cnn knocking PresObama for indecisiveness…on Monday he was for striking Syria. today he is

    against it

    ——————————

    • 101 Layla
      September 6, 2013 at 4:57 pm

      Simple fact: they were handed the responsibility by PBO and they are panicked re making a decision about Syria…if things go wrong they do not want to be blamed!

  26. 102 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Thanks 57andfemale for pushing back against David Corn’s nonsense. And for retweeting the sensible voices who support PBO’s decision :)

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  29. 106 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Here’s a plan of action as suggested by The People’s View and others on Twitter: Let’s hold all the Dems & GOP in congress who supported Clinton on Kosovo but for some reason do not want to support PBO on Syria. We need to call them and demand that they answer for their “no” votes. No more hiding and posturing.

  30. 109 utaustinliberal
    September 6, 2013 at 5:41 pm
  31. 110 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Well yes, Obamacare is no longer a useful political weapon for the GOP, that’s why they’ve turned to the Emoprogs/Libertarians to undermine him.

  32. 112 utaustinliberal
    September 6, 2013 at 5:57 pm
  33. 113 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 6:34 pm

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