President Obama and members of his delegation walk to meet with China’s President Xi Jinping for a bilateral meeting at the G20 Summit, Sept. 6, in St. Petersburg
Today (all times US Eastern):
4:0 AM: The President participates in G-20 Working Session Two
5:45: Participates in a G-20 Family Photo
6:0: Participates in a G-20 working lunch
8:30: Holds a bilateral meeting with President Hollande of France
9:50: Holds a press conference
11:15: Holds a Civil Society Roundtable
12:15: Departs Saint Petersburg
9:15 PM: Arrives Joint Base Andrews
9:30: Arrives at the White House
MooooOOOOoooorning Early Birds – back in a bit with R&S.
Good Morning Chips.
Good Morning Chips and everybody. Thanks Chips as always for being here for us.
Mooooooorning JER – and thank YOU for all the fantastic live streaming links, you’re the best!
Great morning Chips!!! Have a beautiful day and thank you!
Thank you Layla, and good mooooorning!
By the sounds of the calls into C-Span and the twitter people, there is some really strange talk about President Obama. Glad I have a strong stomach. The left over from GWB & Cheney is just stunning. But then Reagan started this narrative with “It’s the government & I am here to help.” And a few other choice quotes that undermined the Federal Government. It is really sick how the people have bought into this shit.
I trust our President to do what is right, not what makes him look good.
Good Morning TODer’s, sorry for the rant. been listening to C-Span. bunch of BS.
Remember Roberta when you read this stuff there are millions of Americans who support PBO but their voices are not as loud as these trouble makers!
I know Layla, I am just so damned disgusted. I don’t have cable, so everything I read is on line, you all at TOD is my sanity wagon. I have 1000% trust in President Obama, my trust & faith in him has never waivered. (sp) There is only going to be one of him in my lifetime & I am old enough to have been through the Vietnam wars, Korean, Kosovo, etc. My family is military, It just saddens me on how some of the people have just gone bat shit crazy because of President Obama being in the Peoples White House. Astounding.
Roberta in MN, I trust this President to do what is right also.
Roberta, didn’t we hear this crying when the President wanted to take down Kaddafi? Don’t we hear this crying over every issue and idea that falls from the President’s lips? Obama isn’t Bush! He is not lying his way into a conflict for personal reasons. Furthermore, the Left is no better than the Right when it comes to the President, they supported every move Bush made, now they feel compelled to think and rethink debate and drag their feet. I don’t support the President blindly, but I trust him on this. If you don’t care people are being gassed by a dictator, what do you care about?
obamagirl, I agree with you 100%. Countries sat on the sideline till Hitler murder over a million Jews. Is that what Congress will be waiting for in Syria ?
It’s not me that doesn’t care. I think you misinterpreted what I said. Sorry for the confusion, I don’t always put my words right, Had some health issues last year & beginning of this year, but don’t have everything together as before -:(.
your sentiments came through very nicely – namely that you are disgusted by the people who are attacking PBO and don’t trust him (even if his record & character have not given them a reason to feel this way). You are very correct in your assessment and your reaction to it.
reading the responses of other people to your comment – the reaction is directed at the PBO-doubters (like the ones you heard on CSPAN) rather than at you.
Your feelings are shared by many people of conscience and logic
A senior Taliban-linked commander designated a foreign terrorist by the United States was killed on Friday in a suspected U.S. drone strike in Pakistan’s ethnic Pashtun tribal region on the Afghan border, security and militant sources said.
… Security sources said all those killed were insurgents. The location of the attack is known as a stronghold of the Haqqani network, which regularly attacks U.S. forces in Afghanistan from its mountain hideouts in Pakistan. …
Morning again everyone, I just added PBO’s full schedule for the day to the post, in case you missed it
Perfect, thanks so much, Chips. Can’t wait for POTUS to get back home to his family.
A pleasure Meta! And you’re so right about the rage machine, just catching up now and some of the stuff out there from so-called ‘liberals’ is extraordinary – they turn on PBO at every available opportunity, especially when there’s a crisis. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the Syrian issue, which most of them don’t even understand, it’s just another opportunity for them to gang up and spit venom on the President. I despise them.
So agree, Chips. I used to be proud to call myself a Liberal or a Progressive. Now I don’t want to be associated with these hateful people. They live for outrage and would probably be happy with a repressive Republican president because they could wallow in outrage for breakfast, lunch and dinner and then drink a full glass of it before bedtime. They literally make me sick. They take no responsibility for anything–everything must be done for them and exactly their way.
“They live for outrage and would probably be happy with a repressive Republican president because they could wallow in outrage for breakfast”
Jackie, I could not agree more, that’s exactly what it’s about for most of them. Which is why they have given PBO no credit for being the most progressive President in their lifetimes. They actually don’t like progress, because it means they have less to whinge about. Of course, for some, their anti-PBO motives are a bit more sinister than that.
I feel the same way about being called a Liberal or Progressive, jackie. I just can’t stand who the whole movement has evolved. It trades in promoting a complete lack of trust and it’s horribly cynical in the presence of an historical level of progress with PBO. I despise the attitude.
Good Morning Everyone!
How about a Where's POTUS puzzle? This is from last night's G20 Working Dinner. Look closely. http://t.co/AUalbihswA— Dudette (@Dudette9t9) September 06, 2013
Bottom left 3rd from the right
I was thinking they always seat him directly opposite Putin?
I don’t think he is sitting down. The seating appears to be the same as during their meetings. He was seated third to the right of Putin. The Australian and Indonesian are in place but the next two seats are empty. The Brazilian lady was next to him and she is standing behind Putin.
Nope, he’s standing with the group talking to each other along the back wall. His back is to the camera, but the group that he’s with is all focused in his direction. As well they should be!
See my detail analysis below! I know: Something’s not right with me! But it really was so much poring over that picture!
I was also looking to see where the center of attention was – because I suspected that it where PBO would be
The Australian is Bob Carr – our Foreign minister – still haven’t worked out why little Kev called the election for this weekend – when he so wanted to go to Russia??
Forgive the long post, guys, but this picture from the G20 dinner is fascinating! I had so much fun looking at it close up last night.
I downloaded the jpg from the G20 website here: http://www.g20.org/photo/20130905/782537294.html
To to see it in close detail, download it, then zoom in and pan around the picture. Although it’s just a snapshot, you can make some very interestng observations. To me this picture, captures an almost cliched representation of current geo-politics relations these days.
First the environment: Another rounded table, although more oval in shape time, with gorgeous place settings in that majestic room (the ceiling – oy!; those chandeliers – oy!; the wooden inlay in the floor – oy!). Wow!
Now to the people:
Thanks to the place-cards, I’ve pretty much figured out where everyone is, who’s NOT in their assigned seat accept Saudi Arabia’s representative (that’s the empty seat closest to the camera in the front center of the table) and France, but you can easily make some inferences about them based on where everyone else is. Check it out:
1. Notice there’s a group of leaders huddled at the back of the room under the four paintings. Quite the powerful clique of players back there. POTUS is in the CENTER of that group with his back to the camera, my guess is he’s LISTENING. The group includes Great Britain’s Cameron, Chancellor Merkel (in the bright orange, talking & looking at POTUS — as she often is) Italy’s President.
There’s a man & woman to POTUS’ left. I’m not 100% sure who they are. I suspect the woman is Caroline Atkinson, U.S Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economic Affairs [the infographic on the G20 website says she's attending and it kind of looks like her based on other photos of her on the web]. Then again, maybe it’s not her. I dunno. The guy is a little more difficult to peg. He might be one of the attendees from Saudi Arabia (although, if so, I would’ve expected him to be wearing their traditional headgear). To the right of that group, standing by himself along the back wall, with arms folded & his finger held to his mouth (a signal perhaps), clearly interested in that group, appears to be U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew.
I’m guessing President Hollande of France is also in that group on the back wall too. He’s likely facing POTUS. I made that assumption, because he’s not as tall as some of the others, his seat near the front of the room is empty. There’s a gap between PM Cameron and Chancellor Merkel. The way Cameron is leaning in a little makes me think Cameron is listening to someone in that spot.
So my impression is France and Germany are in that crowd trying to talk over each in an attempt to impress POTUS with some point. That sounds about right, doesn’t it?
2. Seated in the far back corner of the table nearest the standing Secretary Lew, Turkey and South Korea seem to be chatting cordially (with the help of interpreters). They’re isolated by empty seats on either side of them. Kind of appropo.
3. The host, Russia’s President Putin, is seated in the center of the table on the right side of the room (between the 2nd & 3rd red curtains). Notice no one is talking to him and he’s not talking to anyone. He’s just kinda looking like a lost wallflower, who nobody likes. Mexico’s President is sitting next to him trying not to look bored. Australia and Indonesia are on the other side of Putin. Australia looks like he’s trying to look busy. Indonesia is not even trying to hide his boredom.
4. Standing Behind Putin are the two woman Presidents from Argentina and Brazil chatting away. I see pictures of them talking together often. I could be wrong, but I don’t recall seeing any photos of Merkel interacting casually very much with them. I always see Merkel with the fellas. Although this is supposed to be a “working dinner”, maybe she’s just got more work to do with her cohorts in the back.
5. At the close front right corner of the table, China’s seemingly lonely President is obscured (except for his arm) by the gentleman who’s demonstrating the communication device to India’s President (interest in technology, of course). Canada and Japan look on POLITELY.
6. Two seats to China’s right is President Zuma of South Africa reading stacks of materials, isolated by two empty seats on either side of him. Hmmm.
7. To the left of Saudi Arabia’s empty seat (close to the camera in the front corner of the table) are Kazahakstan, Spain and a couple of other people chatting. Ho, hum.
You can read so much into this one photo. That old saying about picture being worth a thousand words is so true. In this case, it’s way more than a thousand.
This is awesome, Dudette!! Love your impressive sleuthing!!
Thanks meta! I’m sure I could’ve been an NSA analyst!
Awesome indeed Dudette – the Australian may be thinking about our election tomorrow – he is going to be out of the ministry – and could be out of a job. He was appointed as a senator last year – after a resignation & Julia Gillard appointed him a minister. Standing for election – but not in my state.
Wow, bad time to be away from home.
He certainly can’t be talking too much policy – given he probably won’t have the political power after tomorrow.
I think the man to PBO’s left is Hollande? And I’m wondering is that’s Jack Lew, who I think has more gray hair now.
I think his complexion is too dark to be Hollande, which is why I thought maybe that’s the Saudi guy, but I could be wrong.
I thought that, too, but August is the time for the Riviera!
… and he’s wearing glasses. Could be him afterall.
Well, Dudette, you got me going and I went and downloaded the photo. First let me say that your eyesight is impressive. Even with the enlarged photo, I would not have recognized anyone without your guidance. It certainly looks as if all the interesting stuff is happening in the back of the room with PBO (although I still can’t really see him). Would love to know what that’s all about.
Hi Jackie! I’m using Windows Photo Viewer to zoom in/out and pan around the downloaded JPG file. If you’re just looking at it picture here on the blog with your browser, e.g., Internet Explorer, the largest zoom level (400% I think) may not be zoomed in enough to see the kind of detail you’d see when looking at the actual file.
POTUS is definitely at the center of the group standing under the paintings in the back. His back is to the camera and is his hands are clasped behind his back. There’s a silver-haired gentleman (who looks remarkably like former Russian President Gorbachev) seated just in front of where POTUS is standing.
Good morning, TODville. I hope you all have a very good Friday. I also hope you do what you can to stay away from sources that will bring you extreme anger and sadness. The rage machine is in high gear, precisely to get your attention and your anguish. Do what you can to minimize the mighty MSM who are giving a big bright spotlight to every nutcase with an axe to grind. They are in the business of promoting chaos and discouragement and it’s crazy. Thank goodness we have TOD to get a break from all that.
Let’s fire up the coffee and tea machine and get some soothing music going. POTUS will be speaking to us SOON!!
THIS> THIS> THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning and hugs, Layla!!
Meta, they are gleeful to be sowing dissent so they can fracture the Democratic party and ensure a Republican takeover of Congress in 2014. Well to hell with them. I’m going to work my heart out to get us a Dem congress. The media is a ‘legacy’ form of communication and we are the future. Let’s work day by day to get the truth out.
Jackie, Meta Layla Chips—-You’ve all got it right I think. The MSM job is to discourage us and keep us at home on Election day. Every Election Day.
Right now in NYC Bill deBlasio is crushing his opponents. MSM knows the only way to try to hurt him is to sling mud and throw $$ in hopes of keeping Progressive NYers home on Tuesday.
I am pretty sure that the turnout will be much better than the MSM wants it to be and the outcome will be what 99% of us want for our city.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you and NYC, Vicki. We need to recover from this ugly RW dominance disguised as MAINSTREAM.
i have come to agree with others that the PL is not the base of the PBO…the base of PBO is the so-called Obama Coalition…the people who do the actual work of organizing…they do NOT pontificate…they do not throw bricks at PBO…what they do is the day to day work of being a citizen organizing other citizens…helping to create a more perfect UNION…
the Press and other pundits do everything in their power to sew dissent and confusion..
‘Thank goodness we have TOD to get a break from all that.’
meta, truer words were never spoken. I always say that TOD is my haven from a hostile world. It’s the first blog I check each morning and throughout the day. The information and insightful commentary this site provides is remarkable. You said something yesterday that I have said many times – the coverage of President Obama has become a parlor game. There are no serious discussions. Just an obsession with process and who’s winning and who’s losing (fill in the blank). I have not been able to watch MSNBC since the fake scandals and the Greenwald/Snowden NSA leaks. MSNBC is just unwatchable. It has become a network devoted to 24X7 second guessing of every word spoken and every move made by President Obama. They have lost my eyeballs. Meanwhile, TOD provides one-top-shopping for keeping up with our energizer bunny president. Nobody does it better. That is a tremendous source of comfort to me.
This, ladyhawke. 1000 times over.
LH, I’m just so glad we all have each other. TOD is a dynamic beehive of information and community, so we gravitate toward each other. I tuned out MSM right around 2007-08, I just couldn’t stomach the way PBO was being treated and how any intelligent or curious audience hungry for information was treated and it’s only gotten much, much, much worse. Now the MSM is just all about a bunch of 2-bit opinions from people who really shouldn’t matter at all. You know, when you drag out a total creep like Rumsfeld to critique PBO on foreign affairs and the military, you’ve completely lost your mind. I don’t like being played like that.
I don’t know what I would do without this place, sincerely.
I also have pretty much stopped watching MSNBC as well. Thank God, for this place.
Oh, this is AWESOME.
Beautiful, Dudette. Thanks for sharing. Good Morning to you.HZ
Good morning Ms. Chips and TOD family. I hope everyone is in good spirit and doing well. Congrats Roberta on being first this lovely Friday morning. TGIG
Morning RanMan, have a perfect Friday!
I would respect Republicans alittle if they were to come out and be honest about why they will not support this President plan for Syria. Instead they are trying to come up with all kind of excuses when we know what the real reason is, it’s Barack H.Obama who they hate.
annie, this comment surely goes along w/what I shared on the previous thread about what I found on FB this morning. Such pure, pure hate. If you didn’t see my response to you there, I did ‘hide’ her posts on FB. When I went to Curves, I began a conversation with another lady and all of us ended up talking about various things. She was almost finished with her workout when I got there so she left fairly soon, but I will have to deal with her all the time.
tnmtngirl, if you have to deal with her, let her know where you stand and then let her know that you don’t have time to put up with her B.S. So much so, she will talk about everything but our President.
You know, tn, I had to defriend a “friend” on FB, because of her abusive posts about PBO. I am glad I did.
Good morning Ms Chips and everyone! A belated yet heartfelt CONGRATULATIONS to Ms Chips (and the blog tyrants!) for 21 MILLION hits, amazing, well-deserved, brilliant. THANK YOU so much for this place of sanity in a world of ingorance and turmoil! Large hugs and extra cheesy puffs for you.
Ah, thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much andogriff!!!!!
That’s IGNORANCE, duh.
169,000 jobs added in Aug., unemployment down to 7.3 from 7.4
Such good news. especially for those 169,000 families getting paychecks.
Down to 7.3. Not that long ago Mitt was claiming the numbers were falsified for the election.
Unemployment numbers are out, over 169,000 jobs were created in August, the rate went down to 7.3%.
Auto industry up 18k jobs, clothing stores +14k, temp services +13k, health care sector +32k, restaurants +21k, local gov't (teachers) +20k— Reid Wilson (@PostReid) September 06, 2013
Labor Department says unemployment rate drops to 7.3 percent, the lowest in nearly five years.
annie, I already let her know where I stand. Few weeks ago she shared something on FB about Benghazi (surprise, surprise). I found the story about all the attacks on places and how many died during the Bush Administration. I sent that to her in a private message and told her I was tired of the lies and the hate. Never got a response and when she came in the next morning, she gave me the cold shoulder, but over time things have gotten back to normal. As we’ve all said, their hate is so strong, it blinds them to everything.
I’ll ask again…
how do you think the recovery would be going if one political party hadn’t decided to commit ECONOMIC TREASON against this country beginning January 20, 2009?
U.S. economy created 169k jobs in August, jobless rate dips
By Steve Benen
Fri Sep 6, 2013 8:47 AM EDT
The jobs reports are starting to get a little predictable, by virtue of the fact that over the last several months, they’re effectively the same.
The new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the U.S. economy added 169,000 jobs in August, which is roughly in line with expectations. After years of public-sector layoffs serving as a drag on the overall economy, we’re starting to see a slight turnaround — the private sector added 152,000 jobs last month, while the public sector added 17,000 jobs. That may seem like a fairly modest number, but it’s the most in recent memory.
The overall unemployment rate dropped to 7.3%, which is the lowest it’s been in nearly five years, but it’s not evidence of good news — it ticked down largely because of people leaving the workforce.
The economy would be bustling by now if it weren’t for the treasonous saboteurs in the GOP.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: THE ECONOMIC NEWS COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER ……..
Statement by the President on the Sequester – MARCH 1, 2013
So economists are estimating that as a consequence of this sequester, that we could see growth cut by over one-half of 1 percent. It will cost about 750,000 jobs at a time when we should be growing jobs more quickly. So every time that we get a piece of economic news, over the next month, next two months, next six months, as long as the sequester is in place, we’ll know that that economic news could have been better if Congress had not failed to act.
WASHINGTON — The State Department on Friday ordered nonessential U.S. diplomats to leave Lebanon due to security concerns as the Obama administration and Congress debate military strikes on neighboring Syria.
In a new travel warning for Lebanon, the department said it had instructed nonessential staffers to leave Beirut and urged private American citizens to depart Lebanon.
Will Obama attack #Syria if congress says no? Blinken just told NPR that is "neither his desire nor his intention,"— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) September 06, 2013
I wonder how many Americans know who Tony Blinken even is.
Yes, probably very, very low except for the denizens of TODville.
Well, duh, do they think the president is playing games? When he said he wanted a decision from Congress, he meant it. If circumstances change, well then, he will react to those with appropriate actions. Honestly the stupidity of the press is truly jaw dropping. The president knew exactly how the Republicans would react–he’s been around a long time and knows the absolute pettiness of their thinking. Nothing that happens in Congress will surprise him. He knows they do NOT act with good faith. So I believe this scenario was his plan all along and he has something else in mind.
Wow, Deputy National Security Advisor saying this ? Big news. I wonder if President Obama wanted this to be known right away. If not, he must be mad. But if the President wanted it known, it’s pretty interesting. Because it looks like the vote in Congress will be a NO. If Putin is reassured that the military strikes are “out” for the moment, how will he react ? Does it help the President in his talks with him during the G-20?
Gosh, what I would give to know what’s going on behind the scenes…
There are so many layers to this, only POTUS and his inner circle know the complexities intimately. But, yes, what we wouldn’t give to really understand what’s going on!
I think the vote in Congress may be split. This complicates things even further.
LIVE NOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin holds a news conference from the G20 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/52935991
Dudette, you indeed could be an NSA or CIA analyst! I downloaded the pic, but could not see half of what you saw…..so thank you for your analysis.
Something I’ve noticed in the pictures and descriptions, is that the Italian prime minister is much more a part of the “power” group at this meeting than when Berlusconi was p.m. With him, it was as if they all wanted to keep their distance. And, I think Italy’s economy is doing better, so he might have a chance of being more of a player.
The changing dynamics are so interesting. I do remember seeing pictures of these meetings when GWB was there, and he was never surrounded by others. He always had to push his way in…….or rub Angela Merkel’s back!!!
My small take on the attitude toward PBO is a lot of jealousy and envy. The saying is that there are 100 Senators who think they could and should be president. Same goes for Reps. I think his fast rise (in their minds) still galls them, and each one thinks, if only I had done what he did I could be president. Several things: none of them had inside what PBO does, therefore, none of them could have done what he did, and their motives are all wrong. FDR went through a lot of this kind of hatred and envy too, and Eleanor was positively reviled by many.
Yeh, it was easy to see how people wanted to keep their distance from Berlusconi and GWB. PBO, on the other hand has that magnetic personality that just draws people in and he’s brilliant at communicating with people on an individual level, so they’re comfortable with him personally.
I downloaded the high-def photo from the G20 link that I posted above. When you click on the small picture from the gallery, a pop-up window opens isolated to that picture. Use the download button on that pop-up window to get the high-def photo. Then when you use your photo viewer, you can see the great detail. It’s really quite something.
Rise and Shiiiiiiiiine!!
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