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Rise and Shine

A year ago today: The Obama and Biden families joined together onstage following the President’s speech at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte (Photo by Chuck Kennedy)

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Coming up today (all times US Eastern):

9:50: President Obama holds a press conference

White House Live

11:15: Holds a Civil Society Roundtable

12:15: Departs Saint Petersburg

9:15 PM: Arrives Joint Base Andrews

9:30: Arrives at the White House

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Also today:

10:0 AM EDT: Vice President Biden Speaks at Farewell Ceremony for Secretary Napolitano

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The expression on PBO’s face on this Belgian front page is, well, priceless

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USA Today: President Obama wraps up a global summit Friday before heading back to Washington, D.C., to continue dealing with the challenge of Syria.

At the G-20 summit in St Petersburg, Russia, Obama will attend working sessions before hosting a news conference….

Earlier on Friday, Obama met with President Xi Jiping of China and President Francois Hollande of France.

While in St Petersburg, Obama hosts a Civil Society Roundtable that includes gays and lesbians … he returns to the White House late Friday night.

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Michael Tomasky: When Liberals Enable Tyrants

Can a liberal oppose tyranny and support military intervention at the same time? Hell yes. Six reasons why Congress must authorize an attack on Syria now.

….. What values and goals do American liberals wish to promote around the world? I’m pretty certain most would say free democratic societies; full political rights for ethnic minorities; equal rights for women and, with any luck, gay people; a free press; an independent judiciary; and so forth. And, where those cannot be achieved, at least a base-level opposition to tyranny, reaction, religious fundamentalism, and so on.

….. But, I have to say, most rank-and-file liberals don’t seem to me to be very passionate about them. What most liberals are passionate about is one thing: opposition to U.S. militarism….

I’ve described here two impulses: the desire to do good in the world, or at least to prevent the bad; and opposition to American force. Often these desires can exist in harmony. But what if they conflict? Why is opposition to any projection of force always the deciding factor? At times it can lead people into some very illiberal little corners.

…. it isn’t always immoral. This is one of those cases where, if the scale of the action is appropriate and if it works, a military incursion can actually serve liberal ends. No, that’s not for sure. But it is for sure that doing nothing helps the reactionaries.

Full post here

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See the new White House website section on the situation in Syria – here

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Keep track of how members of Congress and senators have said they are voting on Syria at TPM

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Steve Benen: The prevailing winds on Capitol Hill

There’s no shortage of congressional head counts when it comes to authorizing the use of force in Syria, but I’d caution against taking them too seriously. The briefings for lawmakers are still underway, and while many have firm opinions, there is not yet an actual, agreed upon resolution for lawmakers to read and consider.

That said, at least for now, the prevailing winds on Capitol Hill are blowing in an unmistakable direction:

Several Republican leadership aides say that there are roughly one to two dozen “yes” votes in favor of military action at this time. The stunningly low number is expected to grow a bit. But senior aides say they expect, at most, between 50 and 60 Republicans to vote with Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who support the president’s plan …. That would amount to less than one-third of the House Republican Conference.

That would mean the vast majority of the 200 House Democrats will need to vote with Obama for the resolution to pass. But Democrats privately say that Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Minority Whip Steny Hoyer can only round up between 115 and 130 “yes” votes.

More here

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G20 Summit members attend a working dinner for G20 Summit members in St Petersburg, September 5

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Mediaite: Rep Alan Grayson Cackles That Syrian Atrocities ‘Simply Not Our Problem’

The debate over military action in Syria has produced a landfill’s worth of stupidity, from every side of the debate, and every corner of the political media …. but on Thursday night’s All In with Chris Hayes, “Congressman with Guts™” Alan Grayson (D-FL) made a bold incursion, from stupid into contemptible.

…. Chris Hayes asked Grayson if there was anything in the interview with Secretary Kerry “that you find compelling or convincing?”

“Not at all,” Grayson replied, with a thin smirk. “Listen, most people understand this is simply not our problem. This is not our problem to solve.”

…. Whatever you think about Grayson’s logic, what the frack is he laughing about? What, exactly, is so funny about this? There doesn’t seem to be much that people agree about with regard to Syria, but can’t we at least find common ground in the notion that this is not a laughing matter?

Full post here

And in case you missed it – see ‘Alan Grayson Conspires with Far Right Lunatics to Lie and Fundraise off of Syria’ at The People’s View

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Italian Prime Minister Enrico Letta, President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron talk during a working dinner for G20 Summit members in St Petersburg, September 5

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ThinkProgress: Top House Republican Rewrites History, Claims Reagan Stood Up To Chemical Weapons Use

A top Republican lawmaker on Thursday invoked Ronald Reagan to say that Obama was weak for not acting more directly in response to Syria’s alleged use of chemical weapons, ignoring the fact that Reagan’s White House looked the other way when chemical weapons were used in the 1980s.

….. Former House Foreign Affairs Committee chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL): It is against the norms of international standards and to let something like this go unanswered, I think will weaken our resolve. I — I know that President Reagan would have never let this happen. He would stand up to this. And President Obama — the only reason he is consulting with Congress, he wants to blame somebody for his lack of resolve. We have to think like President Reagan would do and he would say chemical use is unacceptable.

What Ros-Lehtinen seems oddly unaware of, however, is that Ronald Reagan did exactly the opposite…

Full post here

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Steve Benen: U.S. economy created 169k jobs in August, jobless rate dips

The jobs reports are starting to get a little predictable, by virtue of the fact that over the last several months, they’re effectively the same.

The new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the U.S. economy added 169,000 jobs in August, which is roughly in line with expectations. After years of public-sector layoffs serving as a drag on the overall economy, we’re starting to see a slight turnaround – the private sector added 152,000 jobs last month, while the public sector added 17,000 jobs. That may seem like a fairly modest number, but it’s the most in recent memory.

More here

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Amazing exchange between the Iranian foreign minister and @sfpelosi on Twitter, part of it:

Read about it here

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Brilliant:

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TPM: McConnell’s Anti-Obamacare Juggernaut Turns Against Him

Perhaps nobody was more responsible for making Obamacare a partisan bill than Mitch McConnell. During the grueling debate that began in 2009, the Senate minority leader worked harder than anyone else to ensure no Republican voted for health care reform.

…. The law was upheld by the Supreme Court and validated by the re-election of President Barack Obama. The public has grown tired of continual budget crisis brinkmanship. McConnell still fights the fight. Obamacare, he told his constituents a few weeks ago, is the “single worst piece of legislation passed in the last 50 years in the country.” But ever the pragmatist, he knows an all-out assault on the Affordable Care Act to the exclusion of all other political considerations would be a political disaster for his party. And so, in a brutal irony reminiscent of Mary Shelley’s novel “Frankenstein,” the monster McConnell created has turned against him and is threatening to end his political life.

More here

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MooooOOOOoooorning!

PS Is it just me or has everyone noticed the increase in stupid on the Twitter machine? Supposed President Obama supporters who think they are qualified to lecture him on Syria, even though most of them know as much about the situation as they do about nuclear physics? Blocked a bunch of them last night, it felt good.

Update: One of them just tweeted me: “No matter how you phrase it ‘war’ is a four-letter-word!”

I kid you not.

Happy Friday!


166 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 8 japa21
    September 6, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Morning all. Congrats Allison

  2. 14 Ladyhawke
    September 6, 2013 at 9:43 am

    (VIDEO) New U.S. Envoy to U.N. Strongly Condemns Russia

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    Samantha Power, the new United States ambassador to the United Nations, strongly criticized Russia on Thursday in her first extensive public remarks about Syria, accusing the Kremlin of holding the Security Council hostage by blocking even modest efforts to condemn the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian conflict.

    She said Russia’s actions signaled there was no “available path forward at the Security Council.”

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/world/middleeast/new-us-envoy-to-un-strongly-condemns-russia.html?_r=1&

  3. 15 carolyn
    September 6, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Seems like I frequently manage to make my comment at the end of a post, so I’ll summarize what I said here. First, thanks to Dudette for her analysis of the G20 picture. One thing I have noticed this summit is that the Italian p.m. is much more in the picture now that Berlusconi’s gone. I think Italy’s economy is doing better. Interesting to watch the changing dynamics.
    I watched all these events when GWB was going, also. He was never the center of a group. He had to worm his way in. Then, of course, he would do something like rub Angela Merkel’s back and humiliate us all!
    With regard to a lot of the hate…..I think much of it is pure jealousy. Every Senator thinks he could/should be president, if only…….not realizing that they did not have inside himself what PBO has, which translates to what he has done.

  4. September 6, 2013 at 9:44 am

    No story, just a headline.

    • 17 Linda
      September 6, 2013 at 9:47 am

      but..but…Chuck Todd said………………………

    • 18 No Child Left Behind
      September 6, 2013 at 9:49 am

      Good Morning TODVille,

      Late congratulations to Ms. Chips for her 20mm hits.

      With respect to the BREAKING news from AP, what’s so breaking about POTUS talking with the host? The media will use anything for a headline. Anything.

  5. September 6, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Gm all. I am so impressed with Nancy’s daughter. She is a true twitter warrior and to have gotten this response from Iran’s leader is nothing short of phenomenal. I hope she follows in her mom’s footsteps and runs for office someday. She would crush any opponent in a debate. Talk of Syria will overshadow the good economic news (because, of course, it is good and only bad news will get attention). People will get stirred up about Syria and miss the fact that the economy is dramatically improving despite the GOP. Don’t let this happen. Get the word out any way you can. People need to wake up and see how much they’re being manipulated by the corporate press.

    • 20 Dudette
      September 6, 2013 at 10:14 am

      She’s pretty amazing on twitter. I follow her intensely. That exchange was earth-moving — really needs to be spread around!!

    • 21 hopefruit2
      September 6, 2013 at 11:09 am

      Jackie – you are so right about Stephani. She is one of the most consistent – if not THE most consistent and supportive voice on Twitter who does not participate in any “freakouts” induced by the GOP/MSM. If she runs for office, I would vote for her in a heartbeat. She is extremely smart yet no where as arrogant and entitled as some of her counterparts who are given media megaplatforms.

  6. 22 Allison
    September 6, 2013 at 9:48 am

    I can’t believe the vitriol against President Obama. If you didn’t know any better, you would think he was an evil man. The hate against the President is 24/7 365 days a year. It’s disgusting. They critique, criticize, everything that he does. Whatever he’s for they are against.

    • September 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm

      The caliber of many of the people doing the unwarranted criticizing leaves a lot to be desired. That’s what gives me comfort – knowing that they are totally unworthy to even clean his shoes, let alone criticize his actions and decisions. Worthless lot.

    • 24 nathkatun7
      September 6, 2013 at 10:29 pm

      The majority of us who voted, both in 2008 and 2012, loudly. and proudly, sent a message that we support, believe in, and trust President Obama. It’s way past time for us to rise up and show our support for the President. We need to vigorously challenge the mindless, though the Obama haters. We must remind the haters, over and over again, that it’s”WE THE PEOPLE,” and not the media pundits, who decide whether we deserve, or do not deserve President Obama’s services.

  7. 25 japa21
    September 6, 2013 at 9:49 am
    • 26 anniebella
      September 6, 2013 at 9:59 am

      miller, I agree 100%. Republicans is against it because of their hate for Obama. Democrats are holding up cause of Iraq and the fact that they are weak knee.

      • 27 anniebella
        September 6, 2013 at 10:02 am

        But it ain’t over, not yet and POTUS will speak to the country and we will see what happens. He just said he will speak to the country Tuesday evening.

  8. 29 No Child Left Behind
    September 6, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Just got the breaking news from CNN’s perspective.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin says in a friendly meeting with President Barack Obama they talked about Syria, but “we stuck to our guns.”
    Putin said they had a “constructive” meeting at the G20 conference.
    “He doesn’t agree with me, I don’t agree with him. But we listened to each other,” Putin told reporters in St. Petersburg. He said they also talked about ways to solve the Syrian crisis peacefully.

    • 30 japa21
      September 6, 2013 at 10:00 am

      It may not sound like much, but this is important. I wouldn’t expect Putin to come out and agree with PBO that military intervention is the way to go. On the other hand, he is agreeing there is a problem that needs to be dealt with. Putin can have a lot of influence on Syria in ways we can’t necessarily see, as can Iran. I think this is all part of PBO’s strategy. Get enough pressure put on Assad by his allies so that something breaks through in Syria. Whether or not it will work is something else, obviously, but it is part of a multipronged effort by the President.

      PBO down deep does not want to use force and would prefer not to. He is very Teddy Roosevelt in that way.

  9. 31 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Hi ya all TOD’ers. How you doing?

  10. 38 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Lets try this one more time. :)
    Good morning Chips.

  11. 40 99ts
    September 6, 2013 at 9:56 am

    GM Ms Chips – that toon of Iraq and Benghazi is absolutely priceless – made my day – you are the best of the best with the news

  12. 42 Linda
    September 6, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Saw this on the live chat at the cbs link…..

    Jim_WilliamsJr Why is the media not responding to the reports of Anderson Cooper using an actor to fake Syrian attacks? #abcnews24 #CNN #cbsnews #Fox

    • 43 Linda
      September 6, 2013 at 10:06 am

      CNN caught staging fake news segments with actors in Syria

      http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=78680

      • 44 Dudette
        September 6, 2013 at 10:26 am

        Wow, if that’s true, that pretty much tanks CNN’s last shred of journalist credibility.

      • September 6, 2013 at 4:53 pm

        I remember the lies about the Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators during the 1990 Iraq war and it just did not seem to be truthful to me and we did not know about it for years that it was staged. I don’t see this happening under THIS administration. I believe in President Obama and I believe he will make the right decision and I will back him. I don’t like war, I don’t like having our military in harms way in the middle east but they signed up for this type of service, but I also don’t like that Puttin, Assad, and other dictators using chemical weapons and the World looks the other way.

  13. 47 dotster3
    September 6, 2013 at 9:58 am

    I noticed PBO thanked the “people of St. Petersburg for their hospitality and hosting summit, not Pootey-Poot.

  14. 49 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 9:58 am
    • 50 57andfemale
      September 6, 2013 at 10:39 am

      well, dictators are their thing, after all.

      • 51 ericfive
        September 6, 2013 at 11:28 am

        The GOP/MSM and PL all view PBO as “the enemy” and are employing the age old adage that states “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. The hate these shitty, corrupt people feel toward PBO is all consumming. They would gladly DESTROY this country if it would hurt PBO politically. The corporations/ownership class really fear PBO, thus we have all their puppets acting in unison to undermine his Presidency.

        • 52 57andfemale
          September 6, 2013 at 11:33 am

          I’m 63 years old. I never dreamed I would see my country descend to these depths.

          • 53 ericfive
            September 6, 2013 at 11:51 am

            Loyalty to country is a foreign concept to these people. The open embrace both the PL and right wing are giving Putin/Russia/Snowden clearly illustrates this. The corporations/ownership class wants to see America suffer for daring to reelect PBO and raise their taxes.

        • 54 nathkatun7
          September 6, 2013 at 10:33 pm

          Well said, Ericfive!

  15. 55 mtmarilyn
    September 6, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Happy Friday everyone! We still have alot of smoke that is coming from the Yosemite fire. The rain we were suppose to get last night fizzled.

    It is so great seeing those wonderful pictures of our President with all the world leaders looking to him with respect. The leaders don’t stand around talking to Putin.

    I agree, people on twitter are freaking out over this Syria thing. I have unfollowed several people who have gone over the edge. The exchange with Stephanie Pelosi is amazing. With all the problems of twitter it is still a great tool.

    Have a great day everyone!

  16. 56 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 10:04 am

    fucking syria bloviators in every fucking news channel. fuck’em all.

  17. 59 99ts
    September 6, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Does the WHPC ever ask a question that is not related to their “topic of the day”. It would seem Syria is the only country in the world at the minute and the US has nothing else to do but talk about Syria. I have never seen anything like the one-eyed one-topic media as in the last 12 months. They have real issues with their role in life – and the world.

    Do they ever notice that they are not in Washington DC? Did anything happen at the G20 other than a discussion on Syria?

  18. September 6, 2013 at 10:09 am

    President Obama: “I was elected to end wars, not start them, but there are times we have to make hard choices if we’re going to stand up for the things we care about.”

    • 61 99ts
      September 6, 2013 at 10:12 am

      Shame a few members of congress can’t coherently state their position. The hard questions are what they are elected to answer – do they hate being asked to do their job.

      • 62 ericfive
        September 6, 2013 at 11:42 am

        Yes they do. They would rather sit on the sidelines and gripe about what PBO is or isn’t doing. With a few exceptions, our Congress is populated with the scum of the earth.

  19. 63 anniebella
    September 6, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Watching POTUS press conference on MSNBC.

  20. 64 99ts
    September 6, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Next question – Syria and the republican point of view – the BFF of the GOP is the US media

    • 65 99ts
      September 6, 2013 at 10:18 am

      Love it – go ask the republicans why the are voting against what they wanted a month ago.

    • 66 ericfive
      September 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm

      Without its control of the MSM, the GOP would not survive as a viable political party. A party that solely looks out for the interests of about 2% of the electorate could not survive in a democracy without the MSM’s protection and constant propaganda.

  21. September 6, 2013 at 10:15 am
  22. 68 Nena20409
    September 6, 2013 at 10:18 am

    TGIF.

    Good Morning TODers.

    Arise. Arose. Arisen.

    Fantastic R&S. Thank you, Ms Chips.

  23. 69 Nena20409
    September 6, 2013 at 10:20 am

    So POTUS will be addressing the nation on Tuesday….9-10-13?

    What Time? In the evening?

    • 70 jacquelineoboomer
      September 6, 2013 at 11:09 am

      I believe most presidential addresses to the nation from the Oval Office usually take place at 8 or 9 Eastern … not sure about this one.

  24. 71 dotster3
    September 6, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Always—-everywhere——Obama-mania

  25. 73 Dudette
    September 6, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Hey Meta! The more I look at it, the more I think you’re right — that is Hollande on PBO’s left in the dinner picture with a tan.

    So that just leaves the Saudi guy as the only missing person. Maybe he’s in the bathroom. :-)

  26. 76 anniebella
    September 6, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Chuck Todd……Yuke….Yuke…Yuke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. 82 WilTal
    September 6, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Hello everyone,

    Thank you Chips for another stupendous R&S. Next to the 2004 DNC when our wonderful President (then Senator Obama) hit the national stage, the 2012 DNC was again historical for me because our President accepted the party’s nomination for a second term.

  28. 83 japa21
    September 6, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Not sure if the whole chain will show up here. I remember when the whole Snowden thing came up how this person thought he was great. At least some people are willing to change their minds or at elast consider things differently.

    • 84 japa21
      September 6, 2013 at 10:32 am

      Okay, it didn’t. Quick synopsis: Her original tweet was about how NSA has ability to break encryptions, I responded ability does not mean doing so, she responded that was true and asked my opinion of the leaks, told her most already know and a lot damaging to US, and then she responded as above.

      • September 6, 2013 at 10:54 am

        I just never got the whole hero thing. It was so blatantly obvious from the start that this guy was blowing smoke while practicing outright espionage. Run to Hong Kong/China and denounce the US while handing the world national security secrets that under no circumstances showed any kind of wrongdoing. How so many people missed that from the jump is a mystery to me.

        • 86 ericfive
          September 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm

          Some people are biased against PBO and will jump on anything that validates their unease. In addition, some people HATE the “government” and will lionize those who they belief validate their distrust of government. Most of the people who rushed to make Snowden a hero are not very bright or are very naive. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the hypocrisy of complaining about civil liberties abuses by PBO and running to Russia and China for asylum.

  29. 87 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 10:29 am

    STFU, Chuck Todd. Oh, never mind, no sense shutting yourself down, because my President just shut you down.

    That said, my President is showing everything he’s got in the press conference in Russia. His calm demeanor, his truthful and in-depth responses, his knowledge of the world and its powers, his lack of self-import, his diplomatic skills, his understanding of our do-nothing Congress, his full awareness of the silliness of the “media” …

    I’ll stop there, because I want to go back to fully listening to President of the United States of America Barack Obama.

    Mornin’, TOD.

  30. September 6, 2013 at 10:32 am

    LMAO…just as PBO is speaking I’m getting a call from the DCCC asking for a donation. I told them plainly I’m not donating a cent to anyone or any committee until these Democrats get behind the President on the Syria issue and stop posturing on cable TV. Then I hung up.

    • 89 jacquelineoboomer
      September 6, 2013 at 10:36 am

      And I’m applauding you! I don’t get calls, but when I get surveys and the like from the DCCC, sometimes I write “support the President and I’ll support your interests” on the envelope and mark it Return to Sender.

    • 90 anniebella
      September 6, 2013 at 10:40 am

      Thank you hopefruit2, they better not call me.

  31. 91 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 10:35 am

    President’s raisin’ his voice. I’m thinking of standing up in front of my TV, holding up an American flag. So proud of him.

    • 92 Nena20409
      September 6, 2013 at 10:39 am

      I am listening and I didn’t hear POTUS raise his voice. Do you mean a shift in Tone for emphasis?

      • 93 jacquelineoboomer
        September 6, 2013 at 10:42 am

        A shift in tone for emphasis by raising his voice. Yes, I don’t mean yelling, just speaking up strongly and clearly for the children in Syria who were gassed, at that particular point. Stressing his point.

        He’s showing the outrage isn’t coming because Assad’s regime gassed an open field, but real live citizens – 400 of whom were children – in his own country.

        • 94 Nena20409
          September 6, 2013 at 10:45 am

          Thanks Jacquelineoboomer.

          He is making the world to account for what is going on.

          • 95 jacquelineoboomer
            September 6, 2013 at 10:48 am

            Yes, and it’s really a teachable moment. If there are no times when we all can come together to stand up for what is right, we’re doomed. We cannot address every wrong around the world, but we can address some. And gassing civilians is one that must be punished and deterred, no matter how war weary we are, around the globe.

  32. 96 Nena20409
    September 6, 2013 at 10:41 am

    So are the Cablers covering this presser? I am listening Via the PC….audio Only.

  33. 97 Dudette
    September 6, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Wow, I had to do a double-take and rub my eyes when I read this. Is this somebody impersonating Knoller?

  34. 99 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 10:41 am
  35. 100 dotster3
    September 6, 2013 at 10:42 am

    It is really quite sad watching President Obama standing up there trying to convince everyone that the reaction to gassing to death people, including 400 kids, requires a response other than “Isn’t that a shame?”

    • 101 Dudette
      September 6, 2013 at 10:44 am

      I can’t see the press conference, but THIS!!!

    • 102 99ts
      September 6, 2013 at 10:51 am

      He was asked the same question in 10 different ways – with the GOP negatives and the opinion polls and the “congress doesn’t like it” all thrown in as well. If there was a question asked about any discussion at the conference – other than Syria – I didn’t hear it. This was meant to be a G20 – discussing world economies – and the only thing the US media does is hate on the President and Syria.

      I’m glad they had to sit for hours in a bus – wish AF1 would forget to load them – or at a minimum leave their luggage behind.

  36. 105 desertflower
    September 6, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Happy Friday! OK…I didn’t even scroll past the newspaper front page with PBO and Putin! Remember the other day when I said that this should be called the “Look At the Body Language and Facial Expression Summit”??? BAM! The look on PBO’s face is priceless, but look at his handshake! His ENTIRE HAND is wrapped around Putin miserable fingers…as if he’s strangling his hand:) Putin looks like he just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and PBO found him out! Seriously…very telling stuff, and I’m no expert, but I see what Ii see….PBO isn’t playing!

    Ok….I’m going to finish reading R/S now:)

  37. 106 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 10:46 am
  38. September 6, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Jonathan Karl is a crook and an imbecile. POTUS jumped his nonsense but he kept on.

  39. 111 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 10:52 am

    I quickly switched after the presser over to HLN/CNN. The only thing immediately reported was the reason the President feels we must get involved – the gassing of civilians, including the 400 children – and that’s the only part of his presser they showed. No other comments or political points out of the HLN host. Well done.

    And I shall not watch MSNBC until Martin Bashir and Rev. Al come on later. I shall not!

  40. 112 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Don’t allow the media (and others) to hide behind this bogus excuse about Bush & Iraq War. We know very well that it’s all about “defeating” President Obama because they are tired of his foreign policy successes.

  41. 117 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 10:56 am
  42. 118 kathryn kivett
    September 6, 2013 at 10:59 am

    I have never been prouder to say I, and my family, voted for Barack Hussein Obama for President…TWICE…I have never felt more confident to say I TRUST PBO to do what is best for the United States of America…….end of discussion on Syria…it is what it is and he will do what he will do…..

  43. 119 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Ok. Going back to the cave. See you all later. If at all.

  44. 121 57andfemale
    September 6, 2013 at 11:05 am
  45. 122 HZ
    September 6, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Good Friday Morning to my Chips and TOD family. Every moment that our brilliant Chips put forth in complete commitment of every effort to make this the best place ever, we give our thanks. This is where I receive a sense of quietness, deep thoughts of the issues, and a respect for our president that is number one for our Chips.

    I am grateful this morning for:
    The precious gift of life.
    The precious gifts of each of my family members.
    The precious gift of being able to tell each one of them that I love them, am proud of them, and respect them.
    The precious gift to be able to reach out and help someone in a way that will make a goodness difference in their life.
    The precious gift to be a part of this beautiful TOD family.
    The precious gift to have as our 44th President, Barack H. Obama is such a blessing.

    So we move in our space with thanksgiving, loving thoughts and actions; beautiful memories of loved ones; compassion for those who are hurting in places that we cannot all see, but we try to help by supporingt our president.

    Let not the MSM take away your individual joy today, but focus on the great times we all had in getting our 44th President of the United States elected in 2008 and then re-elected in 2012. This is our joy. Now let us stay together and love him; pray for him; and do all we can to get him a decent, alive, hard working Congress in 2014. That is our focus.

    I love you all. Feeing grateful today. Made some very, very early texts to those very special people in my family; made a nice cup of peppermint tea; lit my candles, prayed, and took out the trash. It will be a fine day because we trust ourselves to do the best that we can to make it happen. The bell of our common humanity has rung, and we will march on with grace to lift up those who are not able to lift themselves up.

    Pray/Meditate for our TOD family, our First Family , our Second Family, and our beautiful hardworking president. (((())))HZ

    • 123 hopefruit2
      September 6, 2013 at 11:11 am

      HZ, you are such a calming presence here on TOD. I may not always say it, but I read every post of yours and derive great benefit from your contributions. Thanks for all that you do, and wishing you a very peaceful and happy day and weekend. :) :)

  46. 126 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 11:06 am
  47. 128 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 11:10 am
  48. 129 amk for obama
    September 6, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Bingo

  49. 130 Jovie
    September 6, 2013 at 11:12 am
  50. 131 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Where is our VC? I haven’t seen her for the day yet. I know she was up last night fighting the good fight on Twitter, and giving the trolls a run for their money. Hoping to see you soon, if you’re around VC!!!

  51. 134 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 11:15 am
  52. 141 desertflower
    September 6, 2013 at 11:30 am

    PRESIDENT OBAMA WILL ADDRESS THE NATION….. Good! Tuesday’s the day.

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/09/06/obama_to_address_nation_on_need_for_syria_strike.html

  53. 142 desertflower
    September 6, 2013 at 11:34 am

    This would be SUCH sweet justice! Michelle and her hubby are in BIG trouble….

    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/06/michele-bachmann-congress-prison-doj-launches-investigation.html

    • 143 Linda
      September 6, 2013 at 11:42 am

      I hope every insurance company….including Medicaid pulls their provider licenses from those phoney clinic they run or at least suspends them during the investigation.

    • 145 Nena20409
      September 6, 2013 at 11:44 am

      The Only reason she abruptly changed her mind for running for another term in 2014.

      She is on a borrowed time. Since investigations and Justice in US are too slow……Bachmann is coasting, hoping for her problems to not fully materialize until after her retirement from congress.

  54. 148 57andfemale
    September 6, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Anyone know more about this?

    • 149 Nena20409
      September 6, 2013 at 11:48 am

      I read yesterday that the Military was cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood. I didn’t read that they were going for an all out disbandment? That would not sit well with them…….80 plus yrs in Egypt? Yesterday, a Gov’t minister’s life was threatened through Car bombings. This will bring more problems. I see why the military might want to go this route. They want stability. I get it. Now where is UN and the Russian and Chinese working to keep Egypt stable?

  55. 151 hopefruit2
    September 6, 2013 at 11:42 am
  56. 152 jacquelineoboomer
    September 6, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Fareed Zakaria was quoted on HLN as saying that changing precedent by going to Congress before using military power would be a “bad thing for America’s global leadership.”

    That doesn’t make any sense to me. We elect people to represent us; we don’t crown them with infinite powers (like Bush the oilman thought). If the President decides to “take it to the American people,” that’s a no-brainer wise choice for me, and is showing we have safeguards in our system of government. The President retains all his previously set powers, which he clearly stated before he set out to get congressional buy-in.

    What undermines our global leadership is showing the world we have a batshitcrazy congress that won’t work with this President to do the right thing around the globe. Congressional inaction says to me that We The People are not being represented as being the global citizens we should be, since they represent our individual voices. Well, some of them. Others strictly represent corporate America.

    Take a hike, Fareed.

    • 153 Linda
      September 6, 2013 at 11:49 am

      Following the Constitution is a bad idea ?

      • 154 jacquelineoboomer
        September 6, 2013 at 11:53 am

        Not to us! He probably meant that Pres. Obama is giving up executive powers (he isn’t and clearly stated that, before he ran it by Congress).

        These pundits just seem to regurgitate whatever pops in their heads at any given moment.

    • 155 57andfemale
      September 6, 2013 at 11:56 am

      I am astounded (although I shouldn’t be) at the inability of people to LISTEN and understand.

      Emergency powers are for – wait for it – emergencies. PBO made this perfectly clear. Concerning an issue that is not necessarily time-sensitive, let’s pretend the Constitution still matters and make Congress put their votes on record and conduct a serious debate and fact-finding hearings.

      Who in their right mind believes that the authority of a President to use military action in an emergency situation is the same as “I get to start any and all wars and play with the military like they’re toys whenever I feel like it?”

      Zakaria should know better. I am sick to death of everything being black and white, and what we know now is all that we will ever know and we should make sweeping decisions based on today’s snapshot of events.

      I’ll say one thing for the AJA coverage I watched yesterday – they understand that this is a process. Yes, they will report on strained relations with Russia and the many countries that are as yet unconvinced because that is today’s truth. But it’s clear that we are at the beginning of this process and should not draw hyperbolic Conclusions.

      I haven’t seen the news framed like this since Walter Cronkite.

    • 156 Layla
      September 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm

      FF! AKA ‘fuck fareed”

    • 160 ericfive
      September 6, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      He is basically quoting Don Rumsfeld. He has zero credibility. As usual the MSM reads GOP talking points and present them as news or unbiased opinion. I’m sick of the PROPAGANDA. Does anyone else notice that no matter the issue the MSM will NEVER fault the GOP. The GOP is clearly playing partisan politics (they were all for military strikes until PBO agreed with them, and now presto chango, they are against said strikes). If our MSM had a shred of integrity and were not bought and paid for shills, there is no way the GOP could survive as a political party. WIthout the constant barrage of pro-GOP propaganda, the GOP would go the way of the Whigs.

    • 161 theo67
      September 6, 2013 at 1:06 pm

      Plus, I believe that the President still can strike without Congressional approval for a limited number of days, plus, in the case of a strike against the US or outpost. In this case, the strike is being triggered for humanitarian reasons that do not directly tie back to the United States immediate security – which is why it’s fine for him to head to Congress to get buy in – especially when people are so divided on the issue. Fareed Zakaria is wrong in this case – in my opinion.

  57. 162 57andfemale
    September 6, 2013 at 11:46 am

    This is hi-larious:

  58. 163 Ladyhawke
    September 6, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Flipping the script on Israel

    By Steve Benen

    —————————————————-

    For nearly five years, the rhetoric from U.S. conservatives about the Middle East has been fairly consistent: President Obama has shown insufficient fealty to our Israeli allies, while Republicans remain steadfast in their unyielding support for Israel, no matter what.

    When it comes to U.S. intervention in Syria, the script has apparently been flipped.

    ————————————————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/06/20358782-flipping-the-script-on-israel

  59. September 6, 2013 at 11:49 am

    New post soon

  60. September 6, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Re: Iran…is it possible to think that before the end of PBOs term…that he will be invited to speak at one of the Universities in Iran…can you just IMAGINE that!


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