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President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address in the House Chamber at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., Jan. 25, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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113 Responses to “Chat Away”


  1. 1 jacquelineoboomer
    September 12, 2013 at 11:39 am
    • 2 jacquelineoboomer
      September 12, 2013 at 11:40 am

      There ya go. The trick to being first is to also be last on the previous post (which I seem to do, often!). New one pops right up!

  2. 3 utaustinliberal
    September 12, 2013 at 11:40 am

    This law is freaking awesome.

  3. 12 japa21
    September 12, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Excellent summary of the hows and whys of premiums in the exchanges:

    http://www.joepaduda.com/2013/09/health-insurance-costs-ppaca-not-youve-heard/

    Note the emphasis on the role of competition, you know, the free market, that thing the GOP keeps praising.

  4. 13 JER
    September 12, 2013 at 11:56 am

    BREAKING: Assad: Syria to submit data on its chemical weapons stockpile a month after signing convention.

  5. September 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm
  6. September 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    GM TOD…….

    “The United States of America has been involved in countless armed conflicts since this great nation was founded,” Mr. McCain said. “Many of those would never have happened if we’d stopped to think about them first. Sadly, the President seems not to have learned this lesson of history.”

    Calling the President “an Ivy League law professor who never met a thought he didn’t like,” Mr. McCain said that he was urging Mr. Obama “to please take thinking off the table.”

  7. 26 JER
    September 12, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    [FLORIDA] STATE TELLS ‘NAVIGATORS’ TO STAY AWAY FROM COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENTS

    The outreach workers known as navigators won’t be allowed to help people sign up for health insurance on the grounds of county health departments, according to a memo from the Florida Department of Health. …

    Health and Human Services Department spokesman Fabien Levy called the Florida directive “another blatant and shameful attempt to intimidate groups who will be working to inform Americans about their new health insurance options and help them enroll in coverage, just like Medicare counselors have been doing for years.” …

    Retired Pasco County Health Director … said the move would “significantly compromise a multitude of needy Floridians from getting critical health care.” He called it “cruel and irresponsible.” … Even if state officials were making it easy, the navigators face a huge challenge in Florida, where 3.8 million people are uninsured. …

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/11/3621013_p2/state-tells-navigators-to-stay.html#storylink=cpy

  8. 28 JER
    September 12, 2013 at 12:20 pm
  9. 29 kathryn kivett
    September 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    What’s with it with Oklahoma?….both senators rushing to teevee to commit treason by dissing President in eyes of world…and you can throw Corker in with them.

    • 30 Layla
      September 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      For all the “twitterers” out there the words “traitor” and “treason” should be advanced ++++++++!

    • 31 jziglar
      September 12, 2013 at 12:43 pm

      It’s so stupid. First the congress demanded that the President ask them for a vote so he gave it to them. Then they complain that he is showing weakness. Now they say that the Russians just came out of the blue with this proposal though we know that none of this would have happened without the threat of a strike. Now these fools say that they didn’t react to the strike because the Congress wasn’t supporting it. Though there was no guarantee that President Obama wouldn’t override Congress and strike (which Clinton did during the Kosovo situation).

    • September 12, 2013 at 12:45 pm

      Has Corker done/said something else since this morning (on Chuck Toads show)??? I called his office about 20 minutes ago. Said I was disgusted and ashamed that my senator was taking part in the demeaning of the POTUS while praising Putin. Said a lot more too……reminded all the haters that BHO is POTUS and that he will be for 3.5 more years and biggest newsflash of all: He’s black and he will continue to be black–DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. September 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm
  11. September 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    This is a long article with a lot of arguments but I’d be curious what you guys think:

    • 35 Vicki
      September 12, 2013 at 1:00 pm

      I plowed through it. I strongly agree with his take on the deBlasio victory. What is most encouraging to me is that the Old Left which meant Limousine Liberals DLC and the Clintons is being vigorously challenged by a newer breed.
      Beinart advances the idea of an Elizabeth Warren run for President.
      i don’t know what to make of that.

      Clearly the Old Order, Plutocrat and Conservadem Blue Dog 1% Democrats better pay real good attention. Looks to me like their era is over.

      • September 12, 2013 at 1:22 pm

        Yeah, I like that he’s seeing a new moment in the de Blasio victory but some of the twists and turns he takes to summarize history are a bit convoluted. Also, citing Warren as a potential candidate seemed a bit of stretch and I don’t ever see HRC turning her back on her long-cultivated and cherished donor list.

        • 37 jziglar
          September 12, 2013 at 2:00 pm

          Yeah but I think he is saying that because of the shift to the left that Hillary will have to move to the left as well. I have been saying the same thing since Obama’s election. The country is moving in a new direction and Axelrod and President Obama sensed it after the 2006 election.

        • 39 vcprezofan2
          September 12, 2013 at 2:08 pm

          Funny enough, his (Karl Mannheim – someone I’d never heard of) method of defining political generations made a lot of sense to me, far more than the Boomer, Gen X stuff ever did. Given his arguments that the younger generation feel shafted re jobs, salary, healthcare, etc. etc. I do see the Warren as potential candidate argument as valid. I’m not saying I’d push it, just that, to my mind, the way it was presented sort of followed logically from his previous arguments.

          • September 12, 2013 at 4:23 pm

            I know what you mean but in today’s world, not having any foreign policy experience is not going to wash.

            • 41 vcprezofan2
              September 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm

              Don’t get me wrong, Meta, I’m not pushing Warren one way or the other, but I think she could overcome that by a) educating herself over the next couple of years AND b) surrounding herself with staff with FP creds if she decides to run. She is an intelligent woman who IMO, unlike the Alaska barbie, would seek to know more about FP than Russia’s location.

              As the author of the article pointed out, Warren already has a following, and I suspect that FP experience wouldn’t be top on their list if she pushed the ‘right’ little guys vs Wall St buttons. Don’t forget he made a point of arguing that the younger voting block has quite a lot to be disgruntled about re old-style politics.

    • 42 vcprezofan2
      September 12, 2013 at 1:22 pm

      Meta, I’m going to get you! This is sooooo long, but having started and gotten hooked by the arguments, I can’t stop mid way. Off I go again!

    • September 12, 2013 at 1:36 pm

      You know, I am reminded of a joke I read in Reader’s Digest about 40 years ago:

      “One ad man to another: ‘New is an old word – find a new word for it'”.

    • September 12, 2013 at 3:36 pm

      Meta, my biggest problem with this piece it that it underestimates the impact of PBO. Barack Obama brought back the one thing that had been drained from the American psyche, beginning with the whole Clinton/Lewinsky fiasco, the stealing of the 2000 election and the grim and depressing years of George W Bush. He brought us hope. It wasn’t just millennials who saw a vision for a better America through Barack Obama, it was us crusty seniors, huge swaths of middle class democrats, minorities, and many Independents who had just about given up. He taught us how to fight, how to change minds, how to win votes. And he did this with an electrifying charisma and oratory skills unmatched in the history of politics. Millennials came out in droves for the presidential elections and I bless every one of them for their commitment and hard work. But through all the midterms and local election–the ones that make a crucial difference in our daily lives–it is the older ones, still inspired by PBO and still working, who carry on. Millennials still have to fall in love, which I why I think young people flocked to the very likeable, charismatic Bill DiBlasio. But some of us know what it’s like to keep a marriage going for years. After the wedding party, there are endless days of housework and child rearing, otherwise known as voter registration and GOTV. When I see young people become involved and stay involved, I’ll know that the US political paradigm has truly changed.

  12. 51 Allison
    September 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Nancy for the win!

  13. 52 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    The GOP’s foreign policy establishment fades away

    By Steve Benen

    ——————————————–

    The demise of the Republican foreign policy establishment was gradual, though I’d argue it reached its zenith in late 2010, during the debate over ratification of the New START treaty.
    .
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    In the end, New START got the votes, but by a two-to-one margin, Senate Republicans still voted against it. GOP senators heard from the party’s establishment, and listened to the elder statesmen and women, but just didn’t care.
    .
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    There was a time that the Republican Party was considered the dominant domestic party on foreign policy, and there are probably some remnants of the population that still believe this, but the fact remains that today’s GOP has no real foreign policy, no real foreign policy establishment, no real foreign policy leaders, no claim to credibility on the issue. We’ll be feeling the consequences of this for quite a while.

    —————————————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/12/20456503-the-gops-foreign-policy-establishment-fades-away?lite

  14. September 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm
  15. 55 Allison
    September 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Thank you President Obama!

  16. 58 Nena20409
    September 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    GM from My neck of the woods.

    GA TODers.

    Lots of information today. Thanks to all the bts.

  17. 59 japa21
    September 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Greenwald is getting schooled on twitter by, get this LL, a reference librarian.

  18. September 12, 2013 at 12:51 pm
  19. 62 Allison
    September 12, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Wow…she actually said something truthful.

  20. 65 japa21
    September 12, 2013 at 12:58 pm
  21. 70 Linda
    September 12, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Our tax dollars at work.

    The Senate is scheduled Thursday to debate an energy efficiency bill that includes measures to improve building codes and promote more energy efficiency in the federal government.

    While some Republicans are seeking an amendment to the bill that would force a debate on delaying the implementation of health care reform, some less controversial amendments include this one from Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).

    Coburn’s proposed amendment (via Politico) would amend the bill by changing a line that calls for “providing information to employees of the Federal agency on the importance of turning off the lights” at the end of the day to “requiring employees” to turn off the lights before they go home.

    The bipartisan bill is from Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio).

    • 71 Layla
      September 12, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      That must have been some strenuous mental exercise for Coburn!!!

      • 72 carolyn
        September 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm

        Put yourself in my place……I live in the state represented by those two jackasses, Inhofe and Coburn! Whenever I think they have reached their lowest, they dig deeper. Coburn has had to take back more statements than can be counted. Inhofe never does.

  22. September 12, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Well, howdy doody all you O peeps!!! It’s another great getting up day ’round the old TOD stoop, wouldn’t you say??

    I’m so looking forward to the next shiny object for which the MSM will attempt to mesmerize us. I know that won’t be too long coming, because the nutjobs are insisting the government gets back to defunding, repealing, and/or denying ObamaCares health plan, while ay the same time, shutting down said government. GYL (gird your loins)

    • 75 vcprezofan2
      September 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm

      Where are my loins? How do I gird them, and do you think girding them will help? ;)

      Hey girl, you sure have been making good use of the summer months! One has to almost make an appointment to see you before you dash away, dash away, dash away again. :grin: Obviously all is well in your corner!

  23. September 12, 2013 at 1:10 pm
  24. 77 Nena20409
    September 12, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    A couple of days here at TOD, I had wondered if Jeffrey Goldberg was the brother of Jonah Goldberg and son of the hideous Lucianne Goldberg……the lady that worked with Linda Tripp to Out Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky affair.

    Well. Jeffrey Goldberg isn’t related to the Lucianne Goldberg Family.

    • 78 Layla
      September 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      Interesting tidbit about him on wiki…
      Goldberg was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen H. and Daniel Goldberg.[3] He was raised in Malverne, New York.[4] He attended the University of Pennsylvania, where he was editor-in-chief of The Daily Pennsylvanian.[5] While at Penn he worked at the Hillel kitchen serving lunch to students. He left college to move to Israel,[6] where he served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a prison guard during the First Intifada.[7] He later returned to the United States to continue his journalism career, and now lives in Washington, DC, with his wife, Pamela Ress Reeves, and three children.[

  25. 81 Linda
    September 12, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Former Ambassador to Russia, Pickering just laughed in Mrs Greenspan face when she said ” Is this a win for Assad “.

    • 82 WilTal
      September 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm

      She is a freakin joke, isn’t she. I have an intense dislike for her.

    • 83 Ladyhawke
      September 12, 2013 at 1:51 pm

      The fact that Russia’s intransigence and multiple UNSC vetoes blocked any sanctions against Syria since 2011 is constantly overlooked by the gasbags. The threat of targeted military strikes to prevent/degrade Syria’s use of CW has created an opening for disarmament talks. You would think that President Obama was on the sidelines and had nothing to do with this dramatic change in events. For the gasbags, what’s important is not policy and diplomacy, it’s who’s winning and who’s losing. I have not watched MSNBC in months. It’s just 24X7 second guessing and criticizing every word spoken and every move made by President Obama. Coverage of President Obama has turned into a sick parlor game. It’s just unwatchable. But I would love to see the segment where Pickering laughed in Grand Dame Greenspan’s face when she asked that stupid question.

  26. 84 Nena20409
    September 12, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Jay “Clark Kent” Carney is to begin his presser today at 1:55 PM ET.

    Love Jay, but tardiness is one his forte ;)

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Daily-White-House-Briefing-with-Jay-Carney/10737441391/

  27. 89 JER
    September 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm
  28. 90 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Briefing with Jay Carney changed from 1:00 p.m. to 1:45 p.m.

  29. 91 Nena20409
    September 12, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    http://www.newser.com/article/da8ovbpo1/irans-new-president-hasan-rouhani-looks-to-begin-outreach-in-un-debut.html

    Reformist Mohammad Khatami made his debut before the world body’s annual General Assembly in 1998, declaring himself a “man from the East” seeking dialogue with the West. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad went in the other direction, jabbing at Washington and its allies, and leaving a trail of jaw-dropping comments such as telling a Columbia University forum in 2007 that Iran has no gays.

    Now it’s Hasan Rouhani’s turn. The U.N. has slotted Iran’s new moderate-leaning president to address the global gathering Sept. 24 _ just hours after U.S. President Barack Obama is scheduled to wrap up his speech.

  30. 92 Don
    September 12, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    So the party of patriots would take the Russian over the black guy?

  31. 93 Gazelle
    September 12, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    [Good. Unless the only invitees are the kids who've lost their Headstart Programs. :) ]:

    Washington, DC – Lawmakers won’t have their annual bipartisan schmoozefest on the South Lawn this year with President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama: The White House has cancelled the Congressional picnic scheduled for September 18th. [.....]

    The barbecue that typically features live music and games was axed last week when it seemed like the House, and possibly the Senate, would be consumed by the debate over Syria, a White House official told Politico on Wednesday.

    .

    http://obamafoodorama.blogspot.com/2013/09/white-house-cancels-congressional-picnic.html#more

  32. 94 JER
    September 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Watch it Live: 3:30 p.m. EDT – First Lady Michelle Obama in Wisconsin: http://www.wkow.com/category/210335/live-streaming-on-wkowcom

  33. 96 Allison
    September 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Watch Now..Kathleen Sebelius – White House Briefing on Obamacare and LGBT Community

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/white-house-briefing-obamacare-and-lgbt-community

  34. September 12, 2013 at 2:10 pm
  35. September 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm
  36. 112 jacquelineoboomer
    September 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Things they are a’changin’. Among other things, so far Pope Francis has said of gays and lesbians, “Who am I to judge?” Then last Saturday he spent most of a day fasting and praying for peace, and encouraged people around the world to join him (plus he sent out a tweet to thank everybody for participating). Then he said yesterday that “non-believers” are “getting into heaven,” as long as they follow their conscience.

    What’s next … he’ll be driving his own car inside Vatican City?

  37. 113 Gazelle
    September 12, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    [Please proceed GOPers!]:

    “In interviews with fundraisers, bundlers and GOP operatives, a perception emerged that the National Republican Senatorial Committee has its own problems — notably a leadership vacuum — that is making the already difficult fundraising environment that much worse.”

    .

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/09/12/gop_fears_fundraising_disaster_in_2014.html


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