Thank you for the new post.
Second to No Child Left Behind. Congrats, on a very busy news day.
Yes, I am first. Really?
Yes, I’ll be watching the President’s brief remarks and hope he will say something about the DC shooting. Another day, another shooting. I hope the supporters of GUNS EVERYWHERE AND TO EVERYONE are happy.
Details on #NavyYard shooter: Source tells @PierreTABC shooter was a former Navy official in his 50's whose work status recently changed— ABC News (@ABC) September 16, 2013
If this is true (& who knows at the minute) – the concept of solving work disputes with guns needs some serious attention.
This is a seriously disturbing trend that is gaining conventional wisdom. Lindsey Graham actually said that we can cut funds for law enforcement because more people should be armed. This is gaining traction – a typical RWNJ lie that becomes ‘truth’ because it is repeated enough.
I’ve been talking about this for awhile now – there is no longer a value placed on conflict resolution, teaching children how to solve things through dialog, controlling anger. Instead, some driver cuts you off and you settle it with a gun on your front seat. It’s a very troubling development.
I hate to be political – did the sequester contribute to this? This – and the NRA convincing Americans that every conflict can and should be settled with a weapon. This is terrifying – human beings are devolving.
I personally know people, as many of us do, who’ve worked for the federal government for decades and suffered through the recent furloughs – one man I know has already experienced 6 out of 11 days off over a few months without pay. And their workload continues, even if they’re not allowed to show up for work.
If people have other emotional or financial issues, no matter where they work, a lack of receiving a normal paycheck to pay your normal expenses – thanks to RWNJs in Congress – is hurtful and despicable. Employees have no power over it, which causes stress in their every day lives.
Not everybody picks up a gun, of course, but it’s just another scenario to push people already having problems over the edge, when they feel they are not being treated fairly and are suffering at the hands of “the employer.” These aren’t just statistics on a chart – they are real live people with families.
Jacque, I’m actually ashamed of myself for saying this. We don’t know what the motivation was, except for speculation to which I should not have responded. I know better.
However, what is true by the very fact of this act – too many people in this country are accepting gun violence as the only means of addressing any and all conflicts. It is a terrifying development. RWNJ, who now are the official voice of the Republican Party, think it’s cost-saving to arm everyone and cut law enforcement funds. This b.s. is gaining traction. It’s the devolution of humanity. It’s despicable.
Is the POTUS still going to make the statements about the Financial meltdown? The shooting incident might postpone or be the cause for delay?
CBS are expecting a press conference on the shooting in a few minutes
Now we hear only one shooter, a man in his 50′s wearing black, heavily armed carrying 3 weapons, including an AR15 is dead. The doctor at one of the hospitals where 3 victims were taken, identifies one man (officer shot in both legs) and 2 women (civilians gunshot to shoulder/ gunshot to head and hands) are in critical condition, but each are expected to fully recover.
No confirmation of any other shootings by any other person/s at any other location.
DC police to hold press conference shortly.
PBO to speak later on finance, but will surely touch on what has happened today.
Now saying 6 confirmed dead. From Pete Williams comments a moment ago, I think they have the identity and the personal details of shooter, awaiting confirmation.
BREAKING: Navy officials say at least 6 dead in Navy Yard shooting.— The Associated Press (@AP) September 16, 2013
And on and on it goes, where it stops—–of if—-no one knows.
Another senseless gun tragedy…— Mitch Stewart (@Mitch_Stewart) September 16, 2013
Thank you NRA. Thank you Congress.
2 other shooters? Oh my world.
That is so sad.
BREAKING: DC police chief says they are looking for two additional, potential shooters in #NavyYard situation— ABC News (@ABC) September 16, 2013
D.C. police chief saying possible 2 additional shooters still at large, both in military garb. Also said there are “multiple casualties”.
News Conference on Navy Yard shooting taking place right outside my office building http://t.co/1VABbCD1nn— Donna NoShock (@NoShock) September 16, 2013
Stay safe gf
Be careful. Too many nuts out there.
1 shooter killed – no details given. 2 other possible shooters not seen for some time. White male with hand gun, black male c. 50 years with long gun – both wearing military style uniforms.
They will not confirm casualty numbers
The description of the black male in his 50’s with a long gun, fits exactly the description of the shooter who is now dead. I wonder if they are one and the same. As unfortunate as this is, hopefully there is only one shooter and the other potential shooters are due to confusion and misidentification.
It does – very much hope you are right – Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh – CBS went away from the President’s speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you can, watch live streaming from the White House: http://www.whitehouse.gov/live.
Thanks cookemom – I can & I am – I was just annoyed that I had to swap over. This media is a one track wonder – they just cannot concentrate on 2 items at a time
The person shot in the head has passed away.
Wow, the Dr. that gave an update on that person (female civilian) said that she was critical, but fully expected to recover. So sad…..
So sick of this insanity. There are good well meaning people in this country and we outnumber the nuts and the NRA supporters. When we work together, we outnumber all of those who continue to vote for the violence loving, pro gun industry lackeys in Congress. If these sick scenes don’t mobilize us for action, I don’t know what will. I refuse to believe that the majority of Americans just accept that some madman will kill them at work or that their children are in danger all the time. Nobody wants to live that way, not in the US or in any country in the world. There’s no future in the path the gun lovers will take us on–total anarchy is not a future. It’s a nightmare. All the employees at the Naval Yard must be terrified today. I hope Donna can make it home safely tonight.
Jackie, I so agree with you. We’re taking baby steps, but that’s all. I woke in the middle of night, went back to sleep and got chores done and then heard this. My heart is heavy. May some good come from the sacrifice of their lives to a gun. The NRA can’t say they need guns in a catastrophe, even in a western state like CO. No guns were needed. See there is new post. See you on the flip side. I guess I missed the President. Darn.
PBO has left for the Eisenhower executive building for his remarks. We should be hearing from him shortly.
LIVE NOW: VP BIDEN AND ANTHONY FOX IN CHARLESTON, SC –
Because I’m at work, I’m just getting back to TOD. So I went back to R&S to catch up – boy was it an eye opener. I know you all had good intentions – but…
You guys should go back to the R&S and read the comments – especially those on the Naval Yard shooting and see how caught up in speculation and unconfirmed reports the thread is. You guys had it flying fast and furious. And we complain about reporters.
I’m glad to see that DD4O is safe.
I wonder how long before members of Congress gets tired of the senseless killings. Does it have to be one of their family members who dies before they get the point?
My prayers go out to the wounded, the dead and the families afflicted by this tragedy.
I believe we post comments as we hear the new developments. This is done for the most part, for people such as yourself, who don’t have access to the news. We also updated the latest as it was given to us. As a member of the TOD, you know our intention is to bring an awareness to our family here. Sure, the reports were conflicted and fluid (still are) and I think everyone here understood that. I’d rather know something about what’s going on, than nothing at all. I trust the TOD reporters to bring clarity as soon as it’s known, which was done in this case.
cookemom, I truly do appreciate the information that is posted here on TOD, my observation is pointing out how fast and furious the conflicted reports were.
However, to keep my anxiety level from fluctuating so rapidly, I sometimes prefer (like during election time) to wait till it’s all over before I read anything.
PBO speaking now! White House streaming live.
LIVE NOW: PRESIDENT OBAMA – http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president-obama-speaks-five-year-anniversary-financial-crisis
The President’s words are always so dignified and comforting.
He’s talking about the financial crisis. Did I miss his remarks on the shooting?
He spoke on that first.
The President mentioned it at the beginning, and thanked everyone who responded for their courage – and told the families of the victims the nation is with them. He said the events are still fluid, etc.
They are indeed – and then CBS decides it is much better to talk to a pundit about shooters than to listen to the rest of his speech. Will they EVER want the population to be informed. Absolutely disgusting
CNN and MSNBC did the same thing, and I’m off to tweet ‘em about it.
The MSM continues its effort to weaken PBO’s “bully pulpit” so GOP spin and propaganda will keep the American public ignorant.
UN investigator’s report found that chemical weapons were indeed found and used on civilians in Syria.
Wouldn’t it be nice if POTUS had a Congress which cared about this country and were willing to work with this President.
Frank Luntz said Reagen and O’Neill work together, today Ronald Reagen wouldn’t be welcome in this Republican Party. Stop kidding ourselves this is not Reagen Republican party. This party belong to those right wing radical racists talk radio tea party Republicans.
O’Neill was a Dem. Dems always want to make gov’t work. Newt Gingrich Only worked with Bill Clinton after the Gov’t shutdown failed on Newt’s second try.
Unless that Dem executive, like it was in NJ, Corzine, where Dems went bat poop and helped defeat him while today they are kissing Christie’s wide arse and doing his bidding instead of making sure that Christie’s record was known by NJ residents.
Frank Lutz is a paid GOP consultant. He comes up with their slogans and catch phrases by using focus groups. It is shameful, but unsurprising, that CBS presents him as an impartial observer. Take whatever he says with a HUGE grain of salt.
Frank Luntz was the architect with Newt Gingrich and 18 others who met on Jan 20, 2009. CBS knew that information. However, not Rose or O’Donnell bothered to remind Luntz or even asked him why, especially the month after GDP tanked to a negative 9.8% and the Nation lost 700K in Dec of 2008.
Luntz engineered the political Coup d’etat. For CBS to allow Luntz to spout lies was Journalistic malpractice.
CNN doesn’t even give the President the courtesy of finishing his remarks on live TV for the American people, but they swing back to the drooling Jake Tapper on the street near the Washington Navy Yard. Despicable.
He is talking about Obamacare….it does not suit their agenda……
Each news outlet is doing it … not just these two …
@CNN @msnbc switch to drooling @JakeTapper @LukeRussert instead of letting American people hear Pres.Obama on country's financial situation.— (@JOBoomr) September 16, 2013
I wasn’t at my computer so I turned on MSNBC, which did the same thing. They really do suck. I turned on Cspan.
CNN just showed a clip of the President’s remarks. They mentioned he was to give a speech to the American people about the economy, but he had started it by mentioning the crisis at the Wash. Navy Yard.
And then they failed to cover the President’s remarks on the economy. NOT A PEEP.
CSPAN-1 is airing PBO’s speech live as well as whitehouse/gov
ALWAYS strange that when the President is to give a big speech, something happens … no one will remember what the President said as ALL are concentrating on the shootings! This man rarely gets a break!
THIS!!! People needed hear this speech .
My take away from PBO’s speech……
‘please proceed on shutting down the government over some made-up bs that will intentionally hurt people to score political points’.
EVERY TIME someone ( friend, family, fellow poster on a blog) complains that President Obama isn’t good at “messaging”, you just remind them that one of the biggest problems he confronts is that big media ALWAYS CUTS HIM OFF when he makes a speech.
Big speech from POTUS on the economy this morning. He’s talking in plain terms, making a lot of sense. MSNBC and CNN cut him off after just a couple of minutes !
Damn.. F *** the media. Sorry for the language but I’m so sick of them.
The little little upside: it’s impossible that viewers of MSNBC and CNN who are not political junkies don’t get as frustrated as us when they’re listening to the President and boom… he’s cut off in the middle of the speech !!
Gosh, I know it’s pure fantasy but I wish the President would just, once, give a figurative middle finger to the media and begin a speech by the following: “To the people who are watching on tv, I remind you that if the tv station you are watching decides to cut me off in the middle of the speech, you will be able to watch it in its entirety on whitehouse.gov or on CSPAN.”
The media cut him off the second he stopped talking about the Navy Yard shooting. They don’t want the American people to understand the damage the GOP are doing to the country – both overseas and within the US. If the GOP ruin the US economy & don’t increase the debt limit, the whole world will be in a massive depression of a size not seen since 1929.
But the US media has nothing to gain from letting the people understand this fact – they think it will be good for their ratings if the world economy collapses.
They want close elections because it means good ratings. They have been protecting the GOP for years now. Because if they didn’t, democrats would win every election and it wouldn’t be close.
The MSM does not do this for “ratings” or for “horserace Presidential elections” (the next Presidential election is not until 2016). It does it to keep the GOP and its pro-corporate policies viable to the American people. PBO’s speeches interfere with the MSM’s pro-GOP propaganda and as such must be shut out by the MSM. We do ourselves a great disservice by not accepting the fact that the MSM is the communications arm of the GOP and coming back to this “ratings” or “horserace” canard. MSNBC and CNN continue with the bashing of PBO despite continued drops in ratings. Does this “horserace” you think the MSM craves ever have the MSM help a democrat at the expense of the GOP candidate?
I agree, eric. When ownership of the media was consolidated under five right-wing corporations, the die was cast. If you receive your news via tv, you are getting Republican propaganda. It’s as simple as that. When PBO reaches out to more local and regional media, he gets better and more balanced coverage. I’m sure that’s what he and his staff have in mind for this statement on the economy.
Very true Jackie.
I am with you 100%, Ericfive!
Good rant eric – but would rather that you said it to those who hate and attack PBO – not someone who has supported him through all the media/GOP attacks.
Better: if you know people who are still watching tv and form their opinions from that… as soon as the entire speech is available, send them an e-mail with the link. With the following: “The mainstream media, AS USUAL, keeps their viewers from hearing what the president has to say. They carried just the first minutes of the speech. Here is, for your information, the speech in its entirety”.
Or something like that.
And do that EVERY SINGLE TIME that the President gives a big speech.
MSM is losing respect and viewers, but they could be discredited even more. Some people are STILL listening to them, no ?
Who was the abusive person on twitter who was stalking Chips? So I can block him….
@MilitantNegro if I remember correctly
#PBO isn't bluffing & neither are the American people @SpeakerBoehner @McConnellPress Pay YOUR Bills; CREATE JOBS #NoDRAMA cc @VP @vj44 @OFA— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 16, 2013
President Obama could not have been more earnest or cogent. The #teabaggers in Congress are in for a world of hurt if they continue their domestic terrorism.
For those who missed it.
POTUS: "I've been briefed by my team on the situation. We still don't know all the facts but we do know several people have been shot.." (1)— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS: "and killed. We are confronting yet another mass shooting; and today it happened at a military installation…" (2)— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS: "in our nation's capital. They know dangers serving abroad,…" (3)— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS: "today, they faced the unimaginable violence they wouldn't have imagined facing at home" (4)— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "It was five years ago this week that the financial crisis rocked Wall St. and sent the economy into a tailspin"— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama says he's been focused on the economy since day one: Stimulus, Wall Street Reform, ObamaCare, Making the 1% pay their fair share— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS: "We need more good paying jobs, we need more ladders of opportunity for people who are poor but want to get into the middle-class."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama on jobs: "And as Congress begins a new budget debate, that's what Congress should be focused on."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "The top 1% took 20% of the nation's income last year, meanwhile, workers haven't seen a raise."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
PBO: "At the moment [GOP] in congress don't seem focused [on jobs]. I say at the moment because I'm still hoping a light bulb goes off here"— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Media lies about President Obama never speaking about jobs. He speaks on jobs today. What do they do? Total cable news blackout.— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "Our deficits are now falling at the fastest rate since the end of World War II."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "Our deficits are going down at the fastest rate since before I was born." Crowd laughs and applauds.— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS to GOP: "The Affordable Care Act is the law…the candidate who called for repeal, lost." Crowd laughs and applauds.— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS on GOP threatening Govt. shutdown over #ObamaCare: "Republicans have tried to repeal the law forty times and lost." Crowd applauds.— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS on GOP threatening to defund #ObamaCare and deny more than 30M people, healthcare: "That's not an agenda for economic growth"— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Hi @SenatorReid @NancyPelosi the #GOP domestic terrorists in Congress are way more dangerous to America than Al Quada every has been. #FACT— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 16, 2013
POTUS on GOP: "Originally this was repeal and replace. Now the replace thing has gone by the wayside. Now, it's just repeal."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS on GOP: "Are they willing to hurt people just to score political points? I hope not."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
PBO: "I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States. The American people have worked too hard to see this happen"— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "At the end of this year, we will cut our deficit by more than half since I took office."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Pres. Obama: "I cannot remember a time when one faction of one party promises economic chaos if it can't get what it wants."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
PBO: "You have some members of the [GOP] party threatening to shutdown the govt at the end of the month, if they can't shutdown [ObamaCare]— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
POTUS: "I've run my last election. My only interest at this point is making sure the economy moves forward as it needs to."— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 16, 2013
Thank you, thank you, UT, from the bottom of my heart. I want to tell the whole world about the service you provide because your short summaries are easy to read for people who feel they can’t stop their work or child care to hear the whole speech. Each month my husband and I send out an e-newsletter to about 700 people and I always plug TOD as the place to go find out what’s really happening in the US and the world. Any time someone complains that they don’t understand what’s going on or they whine about the the latest msm smear, I always refer them here.
The only adult in the room just ripped the scab off of the Republican Party obstruction and the damage it is causing the country. It won’t be long before we hear that President Obama has poisoned the well by speaking so bluntly to the American people about the dysfunction of the GOP. We can expect the temper tantrums and rending of garments to begin any minute now. The bottom line is that they don’t have a coherent response to the facts presented by President Obama. But I am sure MSNBC will be happy to provide the megaphone so they can whine and complain like spoiled brats. The question the media should be asking is why are elected officials in our government purposely trying to bring it down.
Very well said Ladyhawke. I hope you repeat this post on many other blogs. If you tweet, please tweet several times using as much of this statement as you can!
“We won’t play nicely with POTUS because he was mean by calling us out for never playing nicely.”
Well stated, Lh!!!
Up to us to call it what it is ….
Clue to #WHPC #NEWSTAINERS – #GOP domestic terrorists are way more dangerous to America than Al Quada ever has been. #NoDRAMA cc @PressSec— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 16, 2013
Yes We Can
@BarackObama @JonCarsonOFA @Pfeiffer44 Suggest you use #CutTheDRAMA to tag the #GOP domestic terrorists currently occupying the Congress.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 16, 2013
Bobfr, Love that tweet.
My husband just called me to tell me that AJAM carried the entire speech, uninterrupted. After the speech they had the pro-con guys, someone from the National Review and he didn’t know who the ‘pro’ guy was. And then they went back to coverage of the Navy Yard shooting.
Just thought you’d like to know. It is our default news network these days. It’s not perfect, but it’s damn better than the hatchet jobs on cnn & msnbc.
I hope AJAM does not change. I’ve been watching it since the first day. CNN and MSNBC are useless most of the time. At least, AJAM sticks to news coverage.
So far, so good.
I used to come home from work and have to talk Hubby down from some RWNJ talking point that he’d heard on cnn or msnbc that he was afraid was true. Now when I get home from work, he shares something from one of AJAM’s in depth reports. Plus, the news he gets is, well, the news.
Sadly Time warner is my cable corp so AJAM is not available to me
That sucks. They are much better. They remind me of the the olden days when journalists practiced journalism.
Jay “Clark Kent” Carney is currently at the podium Live on C-SPAN.org/Live
White House Now:
Media black out of UN report….
The Michelle Obama Effect: Tory Burch dress sells out thebea.st/19XKuIC— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) September 16, 2013
a candidate for best tweet of the day:
Have the TParty 501(c)4 community social welfare groups started showing up in Boulder to help out?— Jack WhoSayin O'Bama (@JackDeTate) September 16, 2013
Today is the last straw on breaking news for me. I'd rather have the facts in three hours than speculation & link-baiting in real time.— Jason Karsh (@jkarsh) September 16, 2013
Meet three billionaires asking taxpayers to buy them new stadiums thkpr.gs/16xUV63— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 16, 2013
I cannot stand Ed Henry!!
May I point out that Larry Summers was never actually NOMINATED to be the Federal Reserve Chair, so this is NOT a "huge loss" for POTUS?— April (@ReignOfApril) September 16, 2013
Ha, 57, Reign of April is actually being sensible and factual. Can’t have that in the right wing media. The Queen of Hearts would be saying, “Stop. Stop. Chop off her head.”
"Affordable Care Act=Obamacare; Social Security=FDR Care; Medicare=LBJ Care; Tax Cuts For The Rich=Dubya Care"~John Fugelsang— Chris Cook (@cwcook1000) September 16, 2013
Now saying at least 12 fatalities, 16 injured. D.C. police chief still saying possible 2 additional shooters.
Dotster, this morning at the gym some idiot turned on Faux when I was on the treadmill. Because of the gym noise, they always have subtitles for the screen. Some young, blond idiot from Fox was at the Navy Yard scene, practically vibrating with excitement and glee because helicopters were approaching to pick up the injured. He was like a kid at the Macy’s Day parade, jumping for joy at the sight of Santa. It actually turned my stomach and I had to look away to keep from throwing my e-reader at the screen. Nobody cared about the shattered lives and the grieving, terrified families. It was all so too too exciting to have a shooting spree going on.
If everything that happens is an example of how Obama is losing, why does he have such a record of winning?— john miller (@deaconmill) September 16, 2013
The third rate fifth columnist fourth estate are the chief enablers of these homegrown treasonous terrorists aka @gop http://t.co/pc2XyjpENd— (@amk4obama) September 16, 2013
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