On This Day: Sen. Barack Obama speaking at a Moms Rising event, Sept. 28, 2006
Holy fuck, Southampton is in the top 4!!!
That table looks upside to me
Ok, now you’re just messing with my mind Chipsticks. I read that and thought “what table”???? then I re-read LL’s comments and realized you guys are talking about a sport rating table!
I mean I knew there’d be a letdown, but I didn’t think Man U would just collapse. West Bromwich Albion, for Pete’s sake!
Don’t dismiss West Brom. Chelsea took them on last time and lost.
You are right about that. They ARE one of those deceptive teams.
And this is definitely going to be a very interesting season.
I looked at the table today and screamed my freaking head off. Arsenal is on top, (ARSENAL?!?!?!) Chelsea is on top (that’s expected), Southampton is on top (Say whaaaaaaat?), Liverpool is on top (Whaaaaaaaaaat?!) and Man United is sinking.
Football and me are DONE!
You’ll be back next week. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA……
But first a Champions League game in Ukraine.
Chips – oh whatever would we do without this oasis of sanity?!
GOP scumbags – #EnoughAlready
@msnbc @CapehartJ Up to MSM to excoriate Republicans for this cynical dereliction of their Constitutional duty. Elections have consequences!— Judith Fardig (@FardigJudith) September 28, 2013
Sweet then and even sweeter now. Barack Obama.
.@repgregwalden Please talk sense into .@SpeakerBoehner r.e. the CR. Teaparty newbies should NOT be running your caucus. #EnoughAlready— Judith Fardig (@FardigJudith) September 28, 2013
This will end with the GOP caving/losing AGAIN. FreeDumb! asses.
A GOP Rep.: "If [Senate] sends back another clean CR, a clean CR would likely to be on the floor at some point." huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/28/hou…— (@Taniel) September 28, 2013
GA Chips, TOD. Congrats on first, LL! Here is the most comprehensive, contextual, and substantive piece (I’ve read) on how this weeks events unfolded re: Iran.
In a historic moment that could eventually redefine a generation of US-Iran enmity, President Barack Obama spoke to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani by phone today. The 15-minute call capped a dramatic week at the United Nations General Assembly in which moribund nuclear talks with Iran were revitalized and frenetic diplomacy raised hopes of fresh and unprecedented progress……
The Historic phone call between @BarackObama & @HassanRouhani csmonitor.com/World/Security… ..a tick-tock of how it happened http://t.co/HiZ8tiXgG1— The Lovely Plains (@DaRiverZkind) September 28, 2013
…..The US official said that the one-on-one with Mr. Kerry began at the end of the P5+1 meeting, when Kerry leaned over to Zarif, who sat beside him, and asked, “Shall we talk for a few moments?” They went into an adjoining room for half-an-hour, in a meeting that the White House has since said laid the groundwork for the direct Obama-Rouhani phone call. While the P5+1 meeting was underway, Rouhani spoke at a gathering of analysts and journalists. The US-educated Zarif arrived at the venue toward the end of the event and was invited to take the microphone to give the turbaned president – and the audience – a brief assessment of the talks, which he did.
Rouhani was then questioned about his reaction: “You asked for the first step – they took it,” he said, smiling. Zarif added, “This was a new beginning.”
great progress and hoping for more.
just a rankle – don’t know if was necessary for the author to include the phrase “the turbaned president” – maybe if had some implication (have no knowledge about Iran)
Just speculating here, Global, but the article was written by a Christian Science Monitor reporter…… have no clue really(thought bubbles)
More archives…the Anatomy of GOP Hostage Taking…
Strategy for #GOP & @SpeakerBoehner @GOPLeader – Unleash the #SuicideBombers of #TeaParty on America Kill the Govt. Kill the Economy #CNN— Bill R (@cmpnwtr) September 28, 2013
The GOP will cave and vote to fund the gov’t at the 11th hour on Monday nite. And the MSM will quietly pretend that the GOP didn’t cave – instead they will frame it as thought the GOP SAVED the DAY!!!!
HF2, You’ve got to tweet that.
Current thinking is that Boehner is moving the ACA delay amendment to the CR thus making Govt. Shutdown more likely and DebtDefault less likely.
Here’s my take on this: They’re not going to shut down the government. They’re engaging in stalling tactics to enable the GOP/RNC/Rove and the media enough time to coordinate their talking points- because the GOP is in a very tight spot and will lose 2014 if they fumble this one. So this is being dragged out over a couple days to buy the GOP/RNC and MSM some time.
I strongly believe that by Monday evening, the GOP will push a last vote right before midnight to fund the gov’t and the media will have a new set of talking points – making it seem as though the President and the DEMS were the ones pushing for a gov’t shutdown and the GOP “came thru” and saved the day. That will be their instructions….
They are now coordinating their talking points and trying to decide what’s the best course of action (to help the GOP as much as possible) going forward.
Totally agree. My only different thought is that it might be shut down for 2-3 days.
That’s possible too. The problem is once the government actually shuts down – even if for just one day, the GOP is likely to bear the brunt of the blame – regardless of what the MSM says or does. If the government doesn’t shut down, then they can try to save face by telling lies (with the media’s help), but it’s going to be difficult to do that if the government shuts down. And what is more, a government shut down is NOT going to affect the roll-out of Obamacare on Oct 1, so that won’t even please their extremist RWNJ supporters.
Though forus may be correct, I think your assessment of why they must not allow it to happen is correct. The vapor of whatever leverage they have remaining in the debt ceiling terrorist attack will evaporate forever if they allow a shutdown.
And, I don’t think the MSM, irrespective of talking points, are now going to be able salvage much for the #GOP, but they’ll sure try. With a shut down, MSM might as well run prison stories around the clock for the next few years.
I was with a life-long Republican earlier today and best way to describe the encounter was – total disgust at what the Party has become.
#TrustBarack …. and NEVER negotiate with terrorists ….
I agree Bob…at this point it’s pretty much damage control for the GOP, regardless of what MSM may try to do. I really think that they (GOP & MSM) were counting on PBO being very much weakened at this point by all the manufactured “scandals” thrown at him from since February (IRS, NSA,Syria, etc) and thus would have had no choice but to cave on Obamacare because he had no support anyway. But that was a serious miscalculation on their part.
Now after all these scandals and other nonsense, PBO has emerged stronger than ever and Obamacare is being implemented as planned. They now have to rack their brains to figure out a new path forward and time is running out!
If they had any brains to rack, hf, they’d have never gotten themselves into a totally intractable position.
The only way #FORWARD for the #GOP is if any of the marginally reasonable Republicans in the House & Senate banned together and began displaying responsible governance.
A solid 1st step would be for Boehner to deliver the 50-60 R votes needed to pass a clean CR, extend the debt limit, and then negotiate the full budge bill the bipartisan Senate has already passed. If they did those things they might avoid a total stomping in 2014 and 2016.
Indeed! Their options quite are limited at this point.
My question is: why haven’t Americans already concluded that the GOP need to lose 2014, given that they are currently threatening to shut down and default the US government if Americans are allowed to be protected from unscrupulous insurance companies, or allowed to buy affordable health care. Why have the GOP been allowed to spend the last 4.5 years not lifting a finger to help move this country forward and become more competitive in an increasingly competitive world? They’ve spent the last 4.5 years passing anti-women, anti-kids health, anti-middle-class, anti-immigration legislation. They’ve divided the country, called on the worst fears and prejudices, rewarded the most vile behavior. Why have the GOP been allowed to get away with not having a single positive thing to show in the last 40 years of governing? The fact that the GOP needs to lose this one to get Americans to think of kicking them out says a lot about the state of the electorate.
These are all very excellent questions Theo – and just the questions we need to be asking. I have already said that the time has come for voters to hold each other accountable – and confront some hard truths about themselves…
I read an article from the new york times on Israel and the Gulf states being upset about diplomacy with Iran. It was nothing but bullshit from hardliners and “foreign policy experts” in Saudi Arabia and Israel criticizing the President, and calling him naive. A person close to the Saudi Royal family said that they don’t view President Obama as a consistent ally, and another said that President Obama is desperate for foreign policy victories because he doesn’t have many.
It was nothing but hate and fear mongering but I think they exposed themselves in the article. They admitted that even a non nuclear somewhat peaceful Iran is not acceptable because they fear that the balance of power in the region will shift. They don’t want to see a economically strong Iran. It’s all about them maintaining power, and they’re pissed that President Obama and many in Iran want a peaceful resolution and normal relations.
many will place obstacles in the way of progress;
I suspect that PBO is expecting this obstruction and he and the rest of Team Obama will work hard to navigate these hurdles
Just hate how the NYTimes revels in its status as “The Paper of Record.” The paper of bias would be more like it.
Israel is not an isolated state; it is smack-dab in the middle of the volatile Middle East and cannot continue acting like it has no neighbors.
RT @BarakRavid: PM Netanyahu ordered cabinet ministers to refrain from interviews\ public statements about Obama-Rouhani call & Iran— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) September 28, 2013
Rouhani: Iran will accept whatever Palestine decides dlvr.it/42ZdSL— The Times of Israel (@TimesofIsrael) September 27, 2013
I can’t find it now, but saw a tweet that said Iran has *always* been the key to a true two-state solution for the Middle East. For the first time since the Camp David Accord won Carter and Sadat Nobel prizes, it looks like a two-state solution in the Middle East could be Barack Obama’s lasting legacy in that part of the world.
Arapaho, I’ve actually written on that precise linkage, here. And, as noted yesterday ….
TY #PresObama & @JohnKerry No doubt the path to a #2State solution is easier traveled if the Inn in Tehran is welcoming cc @Pfeiffer44 @vj44— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
It’s a big deal. And, I and others have noted that if Iran comes under compliance of the nuke NPT, Israel will be forced to be transparent about its nuclear arsenal and join the NPT, as well.
#TrustBarack …. and always remember nuclear nonproliferation is one of his over arching objectives.
Did the article happen to mention what Saudi and Israeli foreign policy “victories” they were using to compare to the President’s apparent lacking victories? What have the Israelis and Saudis achieved, that we should take them so seriously as to criticize the only guy in the room who seems to be getting stuff done?
Ok, the missus took Stewie the wonderpup for a play date, so I’m on my own for the afternoon. Margaritas at my place!
Between United losing and your Margaritas, this day is proving toooooo perfect for you, LL!
I don’t often post things on Facebook cuz I don’t like the “stalker” feel of it and because I have family who are teahadists. But I decided to put them on the spot today and posted this. Feel free to share if you also have Facebook friend or famiy who are misguided.
The concept behind ObamaCare is mandating that PRIVATE non-government insurance companies offer health insurance regardless of a preexisting condition, eliminate their lifetime caps and ability to drop coverage and mandate that they cover preventative care. This insurance mandate is coupled with the individual mandate — the purchase of health insurance through private insurance companies –with tax credits available based upon household income. The individual mandate is similar to mandating property insurance or car insurance if you own a house or car. The obvious purpose of the mandate is to eliminate the costs of emergency care etc. being paid by the insured for the uninsured who get sick and need some type of health care. Right now someone other than the uninsured pays for it. The history of the individual mandate was a concept of conservatives; wherein their position is that government or private citizens should not cover any costs for someone who doesn’t “pay their own way”.
This exact concept of private insurance mandates was initially proposed in 1989 by the politically conservative Heritage Foundation as an alternative to single-payer health care. It was implemented in Massachusetts in 2006 by then Gov. Romney. During the 2008 elections it became part of the platform of the Democratic party and earned support by all major insurance companies and the AARP. It was opposed by Republicans because ? Hmm… because they didn’t like their own idea? Already the largest percentage of young people under 26 who have signed up under Obamacare under their parent’s plan are Republicans. Which is great.
The more people who sign up the more $$ insurance companies of course earn and capitalism will naturally create competition for the lowest premium costs. So, the truth is that this whole contrived story about it being socialism isn’t even remotely factual. The only valid source of contention about it from Republicans might be that the Democrats took their idea instead of implementing their own single-payer. Truth be told, that’s why Republicans can’t come up with any ideas on replacing it as it’s their idea! They have no real issue with any aspect of it –other than perhaps the fact that Democrats implemented it. Which makes all this silly political posturing and misinformation about it a big waste of time; when this law will help so many thousands of families with their needs for affordable health care.
Just a thought:
Why don’t the MSM refer to Ted Cruz as the Speaker of the House and the Minority Leader of the Senate? He is, after all, the Leader of the GOTeaP and simply second to Rush Limboss.
O/T……If you are decompressing from the nutjobs on capitol hill…… a post leading up to the “Fe-Li-Na = Iron-Lithium-Sodium = Blood-Meth-Tears.” Episode http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/09/meaning-behind-breaking-bads-final-episode-felina/ …of Breaking Bad! Catch up people!
How to catch up on @BreakingBad_AMC (2hr or 10min) without watching 62 episodes! bit.ly/16PQSPe via @dailydot youtu.be/ml-a2HbtAWs— The Lovely Plains (@DaRiverZkind) September 28, 2013
LP –We’re going to a neighbor’s tomorrow night to watch the FINALE! OMG. Before it starts we’re placing money bets on who lives and who dies lol. Have you seen all the party favors on the internet for BB? lol, ice blue thin jello shots on a cookie tray.
Wish there wasn’t so much traffic from Indy to Chi-town….I’d be there Some 151 Jello-shots would be something else!!!! I used to have a nice setup down at Auburn, making Potato/Pear moonshine….. you have my mind wandering now…..?
You are MORE than welcome!! Take Lake Shore Drive North and exit North Avenue and I’m 2 blocks in from the lake. I can’t imagine how it ends but I’m a big Jesse fan so I hope he finally gets free from the hell he’s dealing with. However, this series isn’t about happy endings – in ANY way, lol so I am not optimistic.
I was so pissed Jesse (Aaron Paul) didn’t win an Emmy the other night……gave it to the dude killed off on Boardwalk Empire……. but I found out that the way AMC set up the 8 episode gaps…… the second half of the season will eligible for Emmy’s next year! Inside baseball, I know
Not since #JeffDavis has America been threatened by a more rabid cabal of terrorrists than the #GOP. cc @VP @SenatorReid @NancyPelosi @OFA— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
Perfect tim-m-m-miiii-n-ng! Man, I’m getting good! Arriving on the scene just when Chipsticks is starting a stint from the archives !!!! Wooooot! I love, love, PBO’s archive stuff! THANKS for today’s welcome, Chips Chica!
You always arrive with a bang, VC!!!!
Who, shy little ole me?
‘Shy VC’ ……
You forgot to add quiet, innocent, and fast-moving.
Must be on OFA’s or D’s mailing list…. just came in the inbox:
There were two candidates in last year’s presidential election — one ran on a platform of repealing health reform, and the other put his name on it.
You probably remember which one won. But after listening to Ted Cruz’s speech on the Senate floor earlier this week, I’m wondering if my Republican friends might have forgotten.
Obamacare has been passed, signed into law, and upheld by the Supreme Court. But Republicans are still doing everything they can to fight the law, and we need to match them step for step.
Join me, and sign up to join the team that’s protecting Obamacare today.
In 2012, every single senator who voted for the Affordable Care Act — including me — won reelection, most by double digits, and some in red states.
So I think it’s just silly when I hear my Republican friends, led by Senator Cruz, saying that they’re doing everything they can to block and defund Obamacare because that’s what the American people want.
Take a moment to show them what the American people really want — to give health care reform a chance to succeed. Join the team today:
All the best,
Senator Claire McCaskill
Mark Knoller wants you to cancel your plans this evening!
@markknoller You do that, and let us enjoy our theatre and dinner out. Thanks.— (@aspirational12) September 28, 2013
What a dick, it’s all just a game to him, doesn’t give a single thought to the consequences for people’s lives. Gawd, I hate these people.
they’re reprehensible, but on the way out. In 5 years’ time the trad media will be on the way out. Millennials don’t watch it. Us Gen Xers watch it just for the sports. I get my news from blogs, Twitter, and online feeds of BBC World, AJE, etc. When I *do* watch a network show, I don’t watch it as it’s broadcast, but on DVR, and skip all those money-making commercials.
Why would I want to watch those dam idiots on the House floor? Knoller can act like a idiot at times. I’m sure Knoller has his recliner, his doughnuts and french fries, and beer all ready.
Act III, Scene III in progress over at the Cuckoo Nest.
My contribution today for reason 8,900,998,778 we hate the national media:
Twitter tells me that NSA looks at social media. I think the technical term is “No shit Sherlock.”
@Gus_802 Why is this even worth reporting? Only stupid/paranoid not aware Not on fB, but Twitter's selling point is everything is PUBLIC.— Arapaho415 (@arapaho415) September 28, 2013
And the echo-chamber DC media’s obsession with our President playing golf is pathological. Winter will be here soon, so they’ll have to resort to “reporting” on basketball, but since that’s an urban (versus Republican suburban) game, isn’t worth the lazy MSM’s time.
Can no one call out the MSM on reporting so heavily on people who have been Senators for less time than a baby is incubated by its mother? I’ve tuned out the bigoted, biased MSM, but am kept informed of their treasonous antics via Twitter.
While the House GOP figures out their govt funding strategy today, President Obama is on the Fort Belvoir Golf Course.— Luke Russert (@LukeRussert) September 28, 2013
@sfpelosi When was last time MSM gave a Sen w/ 8mo experience nat'l air time, while calling POTUS lame duck 8mo into 2nd term? cc @chucktodd— Arapaho415 (@arapaho415) September 28, 2013
Just wondering…what “journalistic” experience did Luke Russert have before he came to MSNBC? And how many people are hired into such a prominent position with the little experience (I believe) he had? The experience of his father should not be included as part of his experience.
You know I hope POTUS enjoy his golf game today. I can not stand Luke Russert, he’s a first class punk.
Luke Russert must be a closet right wing, tea bagger, Republican. He is also incredibly dumb! Did he really think that President Obama should be huddling with the tea bag House Republicans to map out a strategy of how to shut down the government and refuse to pay U.S. debts? These hateful media pundits, obsessed with President Obama playing golf, could certainly use some fresh air to cleanse their minds of all that hate.
And the decision is: gin & tonic, with diet tonic water.
There are no other people with whom I’d rather prefer to go over the economic cliff than you fine folks.
Aw LL, pour us all one!
I’ll keep pouring until the gin and tonic water run out. And then I’ll go get some more.
LL, I much prefer the diet tonic over the regular tonic for obvious reason and the taste too. In Chicago it annoys me that they don’t have diet tonic in the pubs so I just buy at the grocery store for my own pleasure at home.
Oh, I only do the diet tonic water. And in the little 10 oz. bottles, so it’s easy to measure out.
AND I only do light margarita mix. Your midriff will thank me when you make your TOD tour.
**I** will look after the drinks on that tour LL.
Forus! I was almost about to put LL in to spam for saying he preferred diet tonic to the real thing – and you too?! Sooooo disappointed in you Forus!
Ok Ms. Righteous, have you even tried it?
I have Forus, honest, and it bordered on a crime against humanity!
You know me! I’m SO there!
GOP conference is meeting one more time before the final House vote expected at 10pm est. They will vote on their mark-up of the clean CR sent from the Senate. It includes a delay of OCare a year, allow military to get paid during the shutdown, remove tax on medical devices, and one other that I don’t recall. Sen Reid says he will not call a vote for anything other than a clean CR. The Senate is adjourned until Monday at 2pm est. The shutdown happens at midnight on Tuesday, Oct 1.
I try to be open-minded but just don't see how this ends well for the GOP. A party marginalizing itself.— Ron Fournier (@ron_fournier) September 28, 2013
Ron. Fucking. Fournier. Chips, where’s that pigs flying picture of yours?
At your service:
Another flying pig;
Love it, Carol!!
The hell with pigs – This requires a gorillas flying picture, my friend.
This requires another gin & tonic, which HEY I have in my hand right now. Where are DF and amk when there’s g&t to be had?
Amk very kindly bought his wife several bottles of gin – which he drinks, and (I think) she doesn’t – as a gift from his travels in Africa. He’s on his way home around about now. He’s such a generous, romantic devil.
So we won’t be seeing amk for a while, either because a) he’ll be plastered, or b) wifey will put him in the hospital.
And he said he’d arrive home around 4:0 AM, so was looking forward to waking her. I wish Mrs Amk would become a blog tyrant, I really want to hear how she puts up with this.
You know what’s a funny thing? I never see India as being one of the countries which visits TOD. Methinks amk has some interesting software on his computer.
He most probably does! But remember a while back when I posted that world map thingy? Amk was stunned to learn there were lots more visitors from India, he wanted their numbers and addresses.
DUDE! You making, I’m there!
Now that woke DF up!!!!
come on over!
Isn’t this wicked RWNJ the pretentious DC WashPo reporter that has cuddled the TBGOPers for 4.8 yrs now?
Yes, hence my utter astonishment. This means that his REAL paymasters are scared shitless.
I grew up with both parents being STAUNCH members of the John Birch Society and in fact my Mother was a Chapter President for many years and one thing I recall very clearly is that they despised the average Republican and didn’t care what happened to the GOP politics as a whole. No different than our loony Left who screwed us over in 2010. Let’s hope our current day John Birchers i.e.Koch RWNJs screw over the GOP for 2014.
You know, forus, you could’ve knocked me over with a feather when I found out that my mom is a Democrat. I just assumed she was a typical 1st gen Cuban emigre. She told me “How could I vote Republican when they want to see people like me poor”.
What a nice surprise!
Wow, when someone solidly in the GOP camp says this, you know there is trouble in River City.
Goodness – when even Ron Fournier has given up cheer-leading for the GOP, then you know it’s bad.
Breaking from WH: Any Republican "who votes for this bill is voting for a shutdown," we will not touch the ACA under threats of a shutdown.— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) September 28, 2013
I just love this! But it escapes me how these fools keep saying a shutdown will be on the President. I think they forget he’s not running for another term.
If you go to the zoo and stick your hand in the lion’s cage despite the warnings, when your hand get chewed off, you can’t blame the zoo. They have been told repeatedly that only a clean CR will be acceptable. So from where I sit, they are making a deliberate choice to shutdown the government.
They are desperate to delay ObamaCare so people won’t find out what a wonder it is before the election and just think about all those new people who will be registered to vote. Some pundits have observed that they want to delay ObamaCare so they can take over Congress then kill it. I think it’s just the opposite…they know if ObamaCare is implemented and millions of new people are registered to vote…they’re toast.
So do I move the money around in my 401K which has finally rebounded from the last ‘pubnut’s dirty deed, or leave it as it is and just bend over and kiss my asssssets good-bye?
Please folks, don’t ignore this question. If anyone has any solid professional
advise or knows someone who does concerning 401Ks now is the time tp reply.
I’m no financial adviser -so don’t take my words as anything other than a personal statement. You should consult with a real financial adviser. I personally have no plans to touch my 401K through this nonsense. Unless you’re close to retirement, or already in retirement, the advice always seems to be that you should leave your funds through any time of turmoil, because the market often corrects itself over time.Play the long game.
WH Statement on the soon-to-passed Teabagger CR, http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09/28/statement-press-secretary
I think since it is a WH Statemate and it is a public statement…..the whole Text can be posted here as is, right Chps?
Yep, no problem Nena, it’s not copyrighted!
Today Republicans in the House of Representatives moved to shut down the government. Congress has two jobs to do: pass budgets and pay the bills it has racked up. Republicans in Congress had the opportunity to pass a routine, simple continuing resolution that keeps the government running for a few more weeks. But instead, Republicans decided they would rather make an ideological point by demanding the sabotage of the health care law. Republicans have tried and failed to defund or delay the health care law more than 40 times, and they know this demand is reckless and irresponsible. The President has shown that he is willing to improve the health care law and meet Republicans more than halfway to deal with our fiscal challenges, but he will not do so under threats of a government shutdown that will hurt our economy. Any member of the Republican Party who votes for this bill is voting for a shutdown. It’s time for the House to listen to the American people and act, as the Senate has, in a reasonable way to pass a bill that keeps the government running and move on.
Thank you Chips. I wanted to be sure.
Yes. Official Documents from the Federal Government are public domain, so it can be posted as a whole.
Concerned about a lot of things this week: my unemployment, my food stamp application and my non-Seasonal co-workers who don’t know if they will be working this Tuesday.
Another reason I’m over the moon that the missus found a job: her UE was about to end, and I had no faith in the federal extension. Hang in there, we’ll come through this.
This silly GOP house bill delaying Ocare is DOA between the senate and the WH.
Senate to reject House funding bill bbc.in/15C7Z79— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) September 28, 2013
White House: President would veto House CR bill politi.co/14T5f86— Politico 44 (@politico44) September 28, 2013
“This once-deliberative body has been taken over by knaves and know-nothings….” — I love it!
Really, the TP is just the most recent iteration of the Know Nothings. They arise every couple of generations when change gallops, have a moment in the sun, and then are relegated to the fringes once again.
LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE NEW SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: SENATOR TED CRUZ
House Republicans embrace government-shutdown plan
By Steve Benen
Specifically, House Republicans, apparently acting at Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-Texas) behest, have demanded a temporary spending bill that would (a) delay implementation of the Affordable Care Act for a year; (b) repeal the health care law’s medical device tax, which means Republicans hope to add over $100 billion to the deficit over the next decade; and (c) provide funds to U.S. troops in the event Republicans shut down the federal government.
And if Democrats fail to accept this offer, Republicans will, of course, have shut down the government, just as they did in 1995, and just as they said they wouldn’t do if given power again.
Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) reportedly told his fellow conservative colleagues, “I said, like 9/11, ‘let’s roll!’”
Does anyone else think it’s strange that the US spends more on military than all other developed nations combined (most of that money going into the pockets of the military industrial complex (i.e war profiteers), is reluctant to use that military machine for humanitarian efforts (but eager to engage in war when oil is involved), and then will safeguard pay for the people fighting those wars – but will let other citizens go hungry or be deprived of affordable healthcare to prove an ideological point? I don’t decry the military their pay – they deserve it! But, there is a problem with the priorities here.
Another reason I’m over the moon that the missus has a job? We’ll be able to start giving to OFA and DCCC and DSCC again.
Your ONLY hope of saving the #GOP from oblivion @SpeakerBoehner is stop coddling #TeabaggerTerrorists & work with @NancyPelosi to GOVERN.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
@sherifffruitfly They are starting to craft their talking points to help the GOP as much as possible….Expect more of this in next 48 hrs.— (@aspirational12) September 28, 2013
#NEWSTAINERS aiding & abetting #GOP (aka #KochParty) domestic terrorists is what the #MSM has become. cc @PressSec @Pfeiffer44 @DavidPlouffe— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
That old saying “Follow the money” can apply to checking out who owns the media and which party do they support? From everything I have read it is predominantly owned by GOP supporters. Also the fact that corporations are into Republicans favoring them over the little guy that Dems tend to favor. The forementioned is an overwhelming reason why the Supreme Court ruling that political contributions equate to free speech and that disclosure is not required is dangerous to our democracy.
Please retweet THIS!!!!
Hey @SpeakerBoehner – 100s of OFA Fellows started today across country. You'll be hearing from them if you take us into a #GOPshutdown— Jon Carson OFA (@JonCarsonOFA) September 28, 2013
This is another BFD. My only complaint with OFA was that it basically sat out the 2010 elections. Which is understandable, as it was still focused on PBO’s re-election. But now that it’s its own organization, it will be a juggernaut next year.
“…. it will be a juggernaut next year.”
Yep. And, well into the future. Plus, it’s gonna do some serious butt kicking for the remainder of this year, as well, LL
Done & ….
BRAVO @JonCarsonOFA It's time for @SpeakerBoehner to work with @NancyPelosi to govern & not continue coddling #TeabaggerExtortionists.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
Yes WE Can
Ai-yi-yi. The Republicans are a bunch of drama queens. Living from one crisis to the next. It’s like living with an addict in your house. You never know what crazy hurtful thing is going to happen next. Except that you know something crazy and hurtful IS going to happen. These nutjobs (a friend visiting us today called them “fascists”. I cannot disagree with that), need to get the hoist outta of DC by getting voted outta there.
So. This vote is going to be on CSPAN I assume? Sometime tonight? I better go look.
Oh sweet lord, Twitter says I should follow Fox News. I'd rather drive my newly-bought ice pick into my thigh.— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) September 28, 2013
Way to ruin a good icepick, LL.#FauxNews should be following Twitter, and probably does because #RealReporting is too much work.
The White House has spoken and their message is, go ahead GOP and shutdown the government. #ObamaCare will proceed. whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi…— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) September 28, 2013
Any blog tyrants fancy posting next? If so, fire away!
Can I be an occasional blog tyrant?
Of course you can Carol! I’ll send you an ‘invite’ right now!
LOL, the GOP stupidity over Obamacare is what I seriously can’t understand. FOX must be that good to convince seemingly intelligent people to believe their trash.
Listen GOP rubes: the President already negotiated: there is no single-payer, you morons.— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) September 28, 2013
I briefly listened to 1 speaker on c-span who was claiming the horrors of the health care law – it’s not only FOX that lead people to believe the lies – the US Media has eaten and regurgitated EVERY GOP talking point – cause the President doesn’t spend his evenings eating out with them.
If only there was a moderately competent media…
But Gov. Chris Christie, who opposes gay marriage, vowed today to appeal the ruling all the way to the state Supreme Court.
“Governor Christie has always maintained that he would abide by the will of the voters on the issue of marriage equality and called for it to be on the ballot this Election Day,” said Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak. “Since the Legislature refused to allow the people to decide expeditiously, we will let the Supreme Court make this constitutional determination.”
oh here we go. The vote is likely to be on CSPAN:
DNC just blasted out this video of Boehner saying "the president was reelected. ObamaCare is the law of the land." youtube.com/watch?v=CHt5TU…— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) September 28, 2013
Yes @SpeakerBoehner #ObamaCare is the law of the land youtube.com/watch?v=CHt5TU…. Stop cuddling #TeabaggerExtortionists. cc @NancyPelosi @OFA— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) September 28, 2013
Only in the GOP's dementia could a law which drives millions to buy PRIVATE insurance be "socialism".— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) September 28, 2013
Do you think that there is a chance that Boehner will put a clean Bill on the floor to spite Cruz and his band of crazy men…i feel that Boehner has had it up to here with Cruz
Before midnight Monday – yes.
why do you think Boehner will do this and if he does will he lose the speakership
Here’s a report and quotes from a TBGOPer from PA over at HP. Pardon me TODers. But the PA rep was quoted so it was not a made up story.
Prettyfoot58……this is one of the many reasons that the TBGOPers could vote out a Clean bill on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday night.
“Let’s see what the Senate sends back,” said Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) “If they send back another clean CR, I suspect — again, I’m not making a decision on what’s going to be on the floor — a clean CR would likely to be on the floor at some point.”
“I’m prepared to vote for a clean CR,” he said. “I don’t want the government to shut down.”
The GOP vote tonight is just to give the media something to talk about on the Republican propaganda shows on Sunday. They will vote on Monday at midnight and the MSM will have their GOP-sponsored talking points prepared by then (they hope).
Because of what McConnell did in the Senate. The #GOP Establishment knows it cannot allow itself to be even more marginalized than it already is.
And, at this point, I think its reasonable to speculate that 30 plus House R’s are ready to either declare themselves Independents or switch to D and caucus with the D’s as they only way they have any chance of being re-elected. Not a small number of them may already have decided to retire rather than face a #Teabagger challenge. A lot more is in play here than in 2011. A lot more.
The #GOP Establishment KNOWS President Obama has the upper hand and he’s going to be fierce these next 3+ years. They’re only calculus now is how to mitigate being blown out in 2014 and 2016.
‘… D’s as the (not they) …’
‘Their’ not ‘They’re’ ^^
The #GOP Establishment KNOWS President Obama has the upper hand and he’s going to be fierce these next 3+ years
I don’t see it happening before Monday night. It looks like the government will shut down and eventually they will pass a clean CR.
They can’t let the shut down happen. It truly would be suicide and the #GOP Establishment knows it.
The GOP establishment no longer has the control it use to have. The main centers of influence are Heritage Action, Freedom works, and other conservative tea party groups.
The senate won’t be back in session until the afternoon on Monday and the republicans in the house are currently not supporting a clean CR. Based on all of that it looks like the government is going to shut down.
The Senate can be back in session tomorrow morning if Senator Reid calls it into session. And, as for who’s in control of the Party, McConnell, facing a primary challenge, did the appropriate thing this past week. We’ll see, but if ever an opportunity existed for the Establishment to regain control, it’s now. And, they know it.
Moreover, if McConnell cooperates, and he has zero reason not to at this point given his previous actions last week on the CR the Senate passed, only 2 Senators need to be present tomorrow – a Dem presiding as Pres of the Senate and Senator Reid. Senator Reid can call for unanimous consent, pass a CR and send it back to the House in a matter of minutes.
Love your voice of reason and sanity Bobfr
The Repubs should be voting on renaming their party to the Cruz Party. It’s really unfathomable that they have allowed this nutty-nut to take over the whole operations there, reporting that he has to approve every move and they’re all “scaredy” of him. Creepy to the max—–that this newly arrived goofball can be allowed to call all the shots and hold the country —-and the world’s economy—hostage.
That old adage about give’um enough rope and they’ll hang themselves, dotster. Well, the guy holding the rope is Rove and Mr Cruz is about ready to hang. The #GOP Establishment knows they have to purge these #TeabaggerTerrorists and the sooner they do it the better. Having essentially the entire #GOP Establishment (which does not include Birchers like the Kochs) hate you is exactly what Mr Cruz (and others) have now achieved. Not going to end well for him and any of those loonies.
A startling 7 out of 10 Americans polled said the House GOP is not trying to work with the president. A small majority say the president is seeking compromise with Republicans in Congress.
Funny how that part was Never reported by any media on how Americans think about compromising and the party that is not try harder to compromise.
What a difference Teabaggers make || FLASHBACK: Boehner: Obamacare is the Law of the Land: youtu.be/CHt5TUj-HWc— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) September 28, 2013
Did the pundits want PBO to go to 314 million people & explain the ACA to each person individually? Ignorance is no excuse for no knowledge.— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) September 28, 2013
Exactly! How many people can even explain in 5 sentences or less their CURRENT health care plan? I would wager very few. The truth is, unless you’ve gone through a specific medical event (like a surgery, pregnancy/childbirth, or unexpected illness, accident or injury) and needed to know certain details about your insurance, most of us know very little about the ins and outs of what our plans cover or don’t cover (besides perhaps the co-pays for routine checkups).
In my opinion, the U.S. media totally abdicated their responsibility of truthfully and objectively informing the Public about the ACA! They could, for example, have set aside time on television, or space in their newspapers, to do exactly what UT did for TOD. Instead they allowed GOP lies and distortions about the ACA to be disseminated, as if they were true, without any challenge. While I agree that “ignorance is no excuse for no knowledge,” I still sympathize with people who are basing their reaction to the ACA on the false knowledge they routinely get through the media. Obviously, the main reason some people hate the ACA is simply because they hate President Obama. They’ve tried to make him into a foreign monster who miraculously came here to destroy America. It’s plainly obvious to me that the success of the ACA will expose their irrational hatred of the President and all the blatant lies they’ve to lad about him; but it will also expose the increasing irrelevancy of the so called mainstream media many of whom seem to have joined in the Obama hate fest.
I just posted this tweet to the #cspanchat –
#cspanchat FLASHBACK: Boehner: Obamacare is the Law of the Land: youtu.be/CHt5TUj-HWc via @youtube— (@a4alice) September 28, 2013
Notice How Not one Journo worth his/her salt other than a number of MSNBC hosts have failed to mention that when they talk about what John Boehner is doing.
These people know how to play back POTUS’ or any Dems’ video. Not so much when TGBOPers are concerned.
I find this appalling and our stupid media just takes this kind of thing as business as usual. If this was a Democrat we would never hear the end of it.
Sen. Cruz didn't want Senate to vote Sat. bc he said it wouldn't be seen by public. House appears likely to be voting very late Sat pm— Mike Memoli (@mikememoli) September 28, 2013
New post in 15-ish mins
OMG, It just keeps getting worser and worser.
House Rs have completely cracked. Now they include denying women contraception as part of their "deal." That's their version of freedom?— Jennifer Granholm (@JenGranholm) September 28, 2013
Here’s More of John Boehner Then ……..in an interview with Diane Sawyer.
NO Dear Pundits, we won’t buy into the theory that when one party executes total OBSTRUCTION, both parties are equally to blame for GRIDLOCK— Captain Clarion (@citizensrock) September 28, 2013
thankyou Donna – RT and Faved.
“Amen” Indeed, Donna!
Didn't Rs say one reason 2012 was "the most important election of our lifetime" was that Obamacare would stay law if he won?— (@daveweigel) September 28, 2013
They keep rewriting the rules and DC/NY Pundits keep their lies alive.
The TBGOPers are never held accountable.
Since I’m not a constitutional expert, nor do I play one in cyberspace, I gotta ask. Is there anywhere in there that says the debt ceiling vote has to be separate from the budget or CR vote? It seems to me that when funding is agreed to and voted upon, the debt ceiling should automatically be raised or lowered, effective the following month to accommodate it. Why are there two separate votes anyway? Why are the two votes so far apart? If this isn’t in the constitution, then the first thing that Smash should do when she gets the gavel in ’14 is to change that.
The Constitution gave Congress the “power of the purse.” The Constitution also gives each house of Congress the power to set its own rules of operation. Congress jointly decided to separate votes for the budget and votes for raising the debt ceiling. One thing that the Constitution is very clear about (see Article I, Sec.8) is: It’s the responsibility of Congress “to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States….”
Sorry, screw these guys:
Rep. Matheson, D-Utah, will vote for the GOP budget measure.— Thomas Burr (@thomaswburr) September 28, 2013
Normally I try to empathize with Democrats from Red States. In this instance, however, I think Democrats should cut their ties with Matheson. I don’t want any of my dollars donated to DNC or the DCCC spent to re-elect this guy.
So I log on to discover the GOP still like to kill people by denying them health care – why do any of them pretend to be pro-life.
Thank you for all you do at TOD Ms Chips – sanest place on the intertubes
OFA must’ve gotten their go ahead. I suddenly see bunches of OFA related tweets in my timeline to representatives, etc regarding the shutdown and Obamacare. Many with the hashtag #ENOUGHALREADY. You guys seeing it too?
I have no worries about our Dem leadership. POTUS beat Clinton & Romney & Citizens United money; these RWNJs are childs play.— ForUS50 (@FORUS50) September 29, 2013
Pro life, my dying ass. http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/09/28/the-house-republican-caucus-conspiring-to-murder-american-citizens/
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