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Rise and Shine

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Today:

The President has no public events scheduled

1:30 EDT: Jay Carney briefs the press

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ThinkProgress: Oklahoma Woman Tells GOP Lawmakers: Without Obamacare, ‘I Will Be Dead Before My 27th Birthday’

As the deadline approached for Congress to pass a continuing resolution to keep the government funded, Republicans refused to strike a deal unless it defunded or delayed Obamacare. Now, a week later, GOP lawmakers still seem unwilling to compromise unless they are able to dismantle some of the health reform law. One Oklahoma resident wants them to understand the human impact of that political position.

On the eve of the looming government shutdown, 26-year-old Kendall Brown published an open letter to the lawmakers who wanted to delay Obamacare for one year before agreeing to pass a funding bill. Brown didn’t mince words. “I am dying, because of the political games you are playing right now,” her op-ed began.

More here

An excerpt from the letter:

Open Letter to Lawmakers: The Human Cost

Dear lawmakers currently attempting to shut down Obamacare,

My name is Kendall Brown. I am a 26-year-old, college graduate with a full-time job…

And I am dying, because of the political games you are playing right now.

You see, I was born with Crohn’s Disease. This didn’t happen because I ate unhealthy food, or because I smoked, or because of any of the other reasons we use to victim blame sick people and justify not giving our countrymen adequate health care. I became severely ill beginning in the third grade because I won a genetic lottery that left me with a disease that would quickly drop me to 87 pounds, render me unable to walk at times, and nearly kill me twice…..

…. I don’t tell you this to make you feel sorry for me, Mr or Mrs lawmaker. I tell you this because I am tired of being reduced to a number, a statistic or, even worse, being described as a freeloader that wants to live off of the government health care teat. I tell you this because if you defund Obamacare, or delay it even for one year, as you are debating today, then this will be my last letter to you. I will be dead before my 27th birthday.

If you think that my life, and the lives of thousands of other people like me have no value, then by all means, delay the ACA. But before you do so, I’d like to invite you to hear stories from others like me, or, if you find yourself in the great state of Oklahoma, come meet me. I’d love to show you around and buy you a cup of coffee — and to introduce you to the woman you are killing.

Sincerely,

Kendall Brown

See the full letter at OKC.net

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Eugene Robinson: Obamacare is here. Get used to it.

While Republicans were throwing their silly tantrum, Obamacare became a fact. There is no turning back.

The point of no return was reached when millions of people crashed the Web sites of the new Affordable Care Act exchanges while trying to buy health insurance. Republicans can fight rear-guard battles if they want, but last Tuesday they lost the war. All they can do at this point is harm the nation — and their political prospects.

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Medicare guaranteed health care for the elderly, Medicaid for the poor. Obamacare begins to fill the remaining gaps. It will get better over time, but already — crashing Web sites and all — it’s a beautiful thing.

Full post here

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TPM: Carl Bernstein Slams Media’s ’50/50′ Shutdown Coverage: ‘This Is About The Republican Party’

Longtime journalist Carl Bernstein on Tuesday called on the press to abandon the false equivalence that’s colored much of the coverage of the government shutdown.

Appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” the man who helped break the Watergate scandal said that the current budget impasse is not a two-sided matter.

“This is about the Republican Party and what it’s going to be,” Bernstein said. “Is it going to conduct a fact-based, philosophical argument in our political system or is it going to be a nihilistic, hateful, asymmetrical in terms of facts and the truth part of the party, as in Joe McCarthy?”

More here

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TPM: Harry Reid: GOP Obsession With Defunding Obamacare Is ‘Insanity’

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said Saturday that Republicans’ preoccupation with defunding Obamacare amounts to “insanity.”

The Nevada Democrat explained in an interview with Esquire magazine why he recently said the Tea Party caucus is losing their minds.

“The reason I said that is that Einstein said the sign of insanity is when you do something over and over again and expect a different result,” he said. “They’ve voted forty-four times to defund Obamacare. Is that insanity? I think so.”

More here

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Missed this video the other day:

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ThinkProgress: Seven Big Companies Working To Help Americans Sign Up For Obamacare

Now that Obamacare’s new insurance marketplaces are open to the public, some uninsured Americans are eager to sign up. However, many others likely remain confused about their options under health reform, particularly as Obamacare continues to get caught in the political crossfire. In order to bridge the education gap about the health law, advocates are ramping up their enrollment efforts in creative ways. For instance, you can now text ENROLL to Planned Parenthood to receive information about health reform.

But nonprofit and government groups can’t do it all on their own. Here are seven large companies that are currently joining in on the effort and helping to spread the word about the new insurance options available under Obamacare:

See here

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Washington Post Editorial: The House GOP has nothing to show for its government shutdown

What have House Republicans managed to accomplish in a week of government shutdown?

Damage the livelihood of millions of Americans? Check. Government secretaries, food-truck operators, cleaners who work in motels near national parks: They’re all hurting.

Waste billions of taxpayer dollars? Check….

Interfere with key government operations? Check….

Rattle the markets, slow an economy in recovery, interrupt potentially lifesaving research at the National Institutes of Health? Check, check and check.

Derail the hated Obamacare? Ch . . . — oh, no, wait a minute…..

Full editorial here

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Link to Lawrence O’Donnell last night on the GOP’s attempts to ‘shut down the Presidency': See here

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Liberal Librarian: The party of fear and the politics of Armageddon

I was looking through my personal library this past weekend, lost in my thoughts as to how we’ve come to this present pass in American politics, and came across a book I haven’t read in 20 years, but have clung to. The Party of Fear: The American Far Right from Nativism to the Militia Movement by David H. Bennett, was published in 1988 and revised in 1995. It makes for grim reading.

It’s a sad truism of the United States that we as a people are ahistorical. We have no memory of what happened last week, much less in the last century. If we were to remember our history, we might be better prepared for when it invariably rears its head again, the passions and bigotries of the past roaring out of the dark id of the American psyche. We fight the same battles over, because the causes of those battles are never fully addressed.

More here

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ThinkProgress: The Complete Guide To The Rise Of The Debt Ceiling Truthers

With just days to go until the nation hits the debt ceiling on October 17th, a growing chorus of Republican lawmakers have begun dismissing the dangers of national default, insisting that the government can continue paying interest on its debt and fund the most critical programs.

Economists have dismissed this prioritization scheme as chaotic and unworkable, warning that the United States would be “unable to pay between 40 to 45 percent of the 80 million payments it makes every month.” If the debt ceiling is not increased, the credit markets would freeze, the value of the dollar would plummet, interest rates would skyrocket, and a global recession would ensue.

But the so-called debt ceiling truthers, who swept into power after the 2010 midterm elections and, to the surprise of GOP leaders, took over the debt ceiling debate, continue to deny this reality. Below is a brief timeline showing how they rose to power and prominence within the Republican party…..

More here

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Charles Pierce: Where Are The Gutsy Republicans?

You’ll forgive me if, at the moment, I decline to believe that we will be saved from the Reign Of The Morons by unicorns, the Easter Bunny, or reasonable Republicans in either house of Congress who would gladly vote with the Democrats, if only evil castrato Speaker John Boehner would allow them to do it. You will also forgive me if, at the moment, I decline to believe in mermaids, the Pooka McPhillimey, or fed-up plutocrats who can find a sucker to primary Tea Party congresscritters from what passes for The Left in the Republican party these days.

… The Reign Of The Morons is many things, but one of its most obvious causes is a complete failure of political courage within the Republican party. It isn’t simply a matter of the party’s having created a monster that it can no longer control – although that’s undeniable part of it – it also is the fact that the party lacks a substantial center of power that even is willing to risk trying. Say what you will about Victor Frankenstein. He chased his creation to the ends of the earth. Where are the Republicans who are willing to ride the ice floe?

Full post here

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Steve Benen: Shutdown takes its toll on congressional GOP

As the deadline neared for the nation’s first-ever war-time government shutdown, the consensus was that congressional Republicans, already unpopular, would feel the brunt of the public backlash. So far, those expectations were correct.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released yesterday found widespread dissatisfaction across the board, but Americans’ attitudes towards Republicans are especially brutal.

While approval for President Obama and congressional Democrats ticked higher in the wake of the government shutdown, approval for congressional Republicans dropped to a woeful 24%. Just as important, GOP lawmakers, who shut down the government exactly one week ago, have seen their disapproval ratings soar to 70%. A majority of Americans, 51%, now say they “strongly” disapprove of the nation’s far-right party.

More here

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Bob Cesca: The GOP Debt Ceiling Strategy: Lies, Grabassery and Default Denialism

The Republican Party’s geyser-like misinformation campaign regarding the government shutdown, accompanied by continued misinformation about the Affordable Care Act and the debt ceiling, has been almost too powerful to follow as it whizzes by.

The latest line, which appears to have convinced a majority of Republican voters, is that nothing will happen if the debt limit isn’t raised, least of all a default. As I pointed out yesterday, this is complete nonsense. We’ve heard this before in the form of denying the climate crisis in the face of almost unanimous scientific consensus. In this case, dozens of experts are forecasting the worst possible consequences if the House GOP doesn’t perform what was formerly a very customary task, devoid of melodrama or hostage-taking.

More here

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On This Day:

Oct 8, 2009: VP Biden and Jacqueline’s new best friend, Valerie Jarrett, leave the Economic Daily Briefing in the Oval Office (Pete Souza)

Oct 8, 2009: President Obama, along with members of Congress and Cabinet secretaries, jockeys for a rebound during a basketball game on the White House court (Pete Souza)

Oct 8, 2012: President Obama views a portrait of César Chávez before the César E. Chávez National Monument dedication ceremony in Keene, Calif. (Pete Souza)

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MooooOOOOoooorning!


120 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 Roberta in MN
    October 8, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Hello Chips

  2. 3 desertflower
    October 8, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Morning TOD….morning Roberta:)

  3. October 8, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Lawrence O’Donnell about the GOP trying to shut down not the Government but the OBAMA PRESIDENCY.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/vp/53213073#53213073

    CHIPS PLEASE POST

  4. 7 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2013 at 9:17 am

    REPUBLICANS OWN THIS SHUTDOWN.

    Josh Drobnyk ‏@joshdrobnyk 1h

    Can you say tipping point? @danbalz, @JohnJHarwood, @jonkarl all calling a spade a spade: Republicans own this shutdown

    Josh Drobnyk ‏@joshdrobnyk 2h

    Levin on bloomberg tv: in 30 years I have not see threat like one republicans now using with #debtceiling

  5. 8 GGAIL
    October 8, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.
    Way to go JO`B
    Congrats Roberta on first

  6. 9 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2013 at 9:21 am

    John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood 14h

    Easy way to tell “Please just negotiate” is R intransigence with lipstick on? Speaker’s pre-condition: “We’re not gonna raise taxes.”

  7. 10 vcprezofan2
    October 8, 2013 at 9:24 am

    GooOOOooD MoooOOOOOooorning, Chips Chica! Thank you for today’s R & S (& Early Bird Chat which I haven’t yet read).
    This new you is simply confusing me! Happy to see *you* getting the worms though – I can’t stand them myself!

    GooOOOood MooOOOoorning, or Evening TODobots! Wherever you are, have a terrific Tuesday!

    • 11 vcprezofan2
      October 8, 2013 at 9:34 am

      REMINDER – To send positive thoughts, prayers for healing and stress relief, what-have-you to……

      1) No Child Left Behind, as she has an important medical procedure; I believe she goes in today
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      2) Dudette & family; dad went into hospital a couple of days ago, was improving; not sure he’s out again yet

      3) TOD village – to withstand all the GOP malevolence out there and stand strong

      AND….. of course…what we always do…

      4) President Obama, VP Joe, JAY CARNEY, and the members of their Admin. They may not have $$hundreds of millions behind them, BUT THEY HAVE US!!!! :grin:

  8. October 8, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD. Back in a while after I check out this huge thread.

  9. 22 japa21
    October 8, 2013 at 9:29 am

    GM all, specially the lady with the bestest R&S in the universe, the incomparable Chips, to whiom we all bow down to in awe.

    Let’s make this clear, both the failure to get and clean CR and to raise the debt ceiling are totally on the GOP. No one else. Any attempt to put the blame elsewhere is wrong, inaccvurate, foolish, etc., etc. etc.

    Of course, the GOP swill work to do otherwise, but in doing so, it is following its normal “blame the victim” mentality. A rape victim is at fault because if she just gave herself willingly she wouldn’t have been raped. A person who is mugged is at fault because he shouldn’t have been where he was or shouldn’t have been wearing nice clothes to indicate he had money, or whatever. PBO will be at fault because he expected and demanded that the GOP act like adults and he defended the Constitution.

    GOP never feels the perpetrator of these crimes should be held responsible, unless, of course, they are the victim.

  10. 28 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2013 at 9:30 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone, and congrats Roberta on #1 :) Thanks Chips for another outstanding news round-up!!

  11. October 8, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Good Tuesday Morning Chipsticks, TODers…Everyone!

    Congrats Roberta and Desertflower!

    Sometimes I wonder if there’s been an invasion of the body snatchers in Congress and whether “humans” have been replaced with bodies that are devoid of ANY feeling and ability for rational, independent thinking. It’s is creepy the narrow focus these Kochster’s have…with no thought to the detrimental impact it will have on the average citizen or even themselves for that matter; no thought as to to the negative impact nationally and internationally.

    I will continue to be optimistic that sane minds will prevail.

  12. 31 japa21
    October 8, 2013 at 9:33 am

    And now, for your reading pleasure, a few of my incomparable tweets. Well probably overstated that. And may I say, John Harwood has been fantastic.

  13. 32 4morefor44
    October 8, 2013 at 9:33 am

    wait, so politi”fact” is wasting time checking on republican viral email chain claims?!? as if the claims might have some truth to them?!? i can save them a lot time right now…if there are republicans spreading anonymous email chain around, the claims are completely, utterly false and made-up. that’s the whole point of them – to spread lies. there, politi”fact” i just saved you a bunch a time. now you guys can go back to your usual lying about president obama and democrats.

  14. 33 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Shutdown shines spotlight on rift in Republican Party

    By Dan Balz

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    But it is the Republicans who decided to risk pushing the country to the brink.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shutdown-shines-spotlight-on-rift-in-republican-party/2013/10/07/2d4c90e6-2f9b-11e3-bbed-a8a60c601153_story_1.html

  15. October 8, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Bernie Sanders Terrifies the Koch Brothers By Outting Their Role In the Government Shutdown

    By: Jason Easley
    Monday, October 7th, 2013, 3:58 pm

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is standing up the Koch brothers attempted takeover of the United States government by outing the conservative billionaires’ role in causing the government shutdown.

    Sen. Sanders put the blame for the government shutdown square on the Koch Brothers, “Let’s not kid ourselves. This shutdown is not something that just came about a couple of weeks ago through Ted Cruz. This has been planned by the Koch brothers and other very, very wealthy people from the day after Obama was reelected, and what their feeling is. Let us go to the extreme. Let us be prepared to shutdown the government, not pay the national debt. Let us use every ounce of leverage that we have. Even if it means catastrophic pain for America and the world, so long as we get our way.”

    More here: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/07/bernie-sanders-terrifies-koch-brothers-outting-role-government-shutdown.html

  16. October 8, 2013 at 9:41 am

    From the overnight post….

    Happy Birthday Bill R!!! :-D Have a fantastic day!

  17. 42 amk for obama
    October 8, 2013 at 9:42 am

    so, who is Jacqueline ?

  18. 50 amk for obama
    October 8, 2013 at 9:43 am

    • 51 pickle48
      October 8, 2013 at 10:11 am

      amk – This relates to one of your posts on a previous thread re: how to impress a woman, man. I’ve got a version originally given to me by one of my college students for a Sociology class she was in, family and intimate relationships. It goes through the “how to impress a woman:” wine her, dine with her, shop with her, etc. ending with “go to the ends of the earth for her.” Then, “how to impress a man: show up naked, bring chicken wings.”

  19. 54 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2013 at 9:48 am

    RANT ALERT:

    I’m bringing this over from the previous thread because I think it is important. This is an example of why the GOP often succeeds in their malicious intent towards destroying any legislation our President tries to implement. And it is a classic example of how and why we ended up with a GOP takeover of congress in 2010.

    Apparently last night, Kathleen Sebellius went on Jon Stewart’s show perhaps thinking she would be explaining certain elements of the health care law and giving it more exposure to the young audience. But she clearly didn’t expect to be grilled about “ACA website glitches” (something she probably would not know a lot of details about, since she is not a website technical expert).

    At a time when the ACA is under intense attack by the GOP, who want to use the law as a punching bag for their bullshit – and who spent a lot of time criticizing the website and initial difficulties with the technical aspects (as ALL websites, new and old experience), Jon Stewart uses his show as a platform to further GOP talking points, embarrass Secretary sebellius with questions about ACA website glitches, and even go as far as to call her a liar when she doesn’t answer in a way that is satisfactory to him.

    Yes, the Koch brothers and GOPTea Party are conspiring to destroy PBO’s presidency – but they’ve only gotten so far because they have a had a LOT of help in the process from the media, the Professional left, including the likes of Stewart and his counterparts, Anne Lowery, Ezra Klein, Hayes, Katrina Nation, etc.

    I have not been impressed with the media’s sudden “discovery” of the Koch brothers plot to defund ACA and use the government shutdown and debt ceiling default as threats to carry it out. We here at TOD have been talking about the Koch brothers and their dirty, dangerous work from time immemorial. All of the so-called distractions earlier this year, including the IRS/DOJ, drones, civil liberties, NSA/Snowden/Greenwald “scandals” have Koch fingerprints all over them, and the MEDIA including MSNBC and much of the Professional Left were WILLING and ENTHUSIASTIC accomplices in this distraction. Why weren’t they talking about the Koch’s plots to defund government then? Instead they were busy helping the GOP distract the public, attacking PBO, likening him to George Zimmerman, calling him all kinds of names. After they finished spewing their bullshit talking points, PBO proved them wrong for the umpteenth time, and MSNBC continued to tank in the ratings, they’re now trying to suck viewers back in with their silly little “discovery”

    Spare me…

    If you use one segment of your show to help GOP undermine PBO and what he’s trying to do, you are NOT on the people’s side – regardless of how you use the other segments.

    • 55 4morefor44
      October 8, 2013 at 9:51 am

      RIGHT ON!!! should be sent incessantly to all those people you mentioned, and more.

    • 56 amk for obama
      October 8, 2013 at 9:54 am

      Yup. Y’day (today) I joined the pushback on twitter,

    • October 8, 2013 at 10:09 am

      Hf, this is why I haven’t watched the Stewart show for years and never will. He’s a member of the “I’ve got mine, the hell with you club.” He made it big, salted away a lot of money, can afford the best health care in the world, so could care less how much suffering the health care act is designed to allay. He thinks that trying to demean the extraordinarily hard working Sec Sebellius makes him look cool. Instead he looks like a worm with an over inflated ego.

      • 58 hopefruit2
        October 8, 2013 at 10:17 am

        And the sad thing is that his bullying, arrogant behavior is being interpreted (on the part of the author of the article I read) as some kind of heroic investigative work…

        No wonder the GOP feels empowered when they behave like obnoxious bullies, while cooperative, reasonable behavior is seen as “weak.” Is that the kind of America we want our children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews to grow up in? A place where everyone is loud, confrontational, accusatory, refuses to listen, pushes their own agenda all the time, and uses insults and tantrums to become rich or to get their way?

    • 59 Vicki
      October 8, 2013 at 10:14 am

      Rachel asked Kathleen about the glitches too and Kathleen replied that “Yes, we wish it had gone more smoothly but the volume is a testament to success, not failure.”
      Precisely. And the HHS secretary was able to win her point which I gather Stewart did not allow.

      I wondered why Rachel even framed her question in the way she did. Hard not to believe that all the media’s paychecks do not depend on attacking all things Obama.

    • 60 pickle48
      October 8, 2013 at 10:15 am

      I was appalled by Stewart’s attitude toward and treatment of Sebellius last night. Then after she left he acted serious and wondered whether he was being lied to! He seemed upset that PBO didn’t pass single payer. Which was never going to happen.

      • October 8, 2013 at 10:18 am

        I just cannot watch Stewart any more, even when I see links to clips where he’s supposedly good, the privileged little smart ass makes my skin crawl.

        • 62 hopefruit2
          October 8, 2013 at 10:25 am

          Same here, Chips. I have not opened any clip or link in which he supposedly “destroys the GOP” in the last 2-3 years. Since that so-called Rally to Restore Sanity during which he and his BFF Arianna HuffnPuff tried to play the false equivalency game right before an important midterm, I stopped taking him seriously and saw him for the narcissistic, insecure little jerk that he is.

          • October 8, 2013 at 10:27 am

            + 1,000,000,000 But I suppose when you’re that privileged you can afford to sneer at efforts to make people’s lives better. Loathe him.

          • 64 Vicki
            October 8, 2013 at 10:44 am

            I watched that dumb rally, too and my question was WTF? Only Tony Bennet mentioned the upcoming election and all he said was “vote.”
            That’s when I got that Stewart, Huff Poop and the rich folks in general were not going to be helpful, to put it mildly.

  20. 65 utaustinliberal
    October 8, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Chicken ad for the win. Great Rise and Shine, Chips.

  21. October 8, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I hope those idiot tea partiers that want government out of our lives are realizing how stupid that idea is.

  22. October 8, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Ended up talking to myself on the last thread, but want to bring over the point about alerting seniors to the dangers of a debt ceiling breach. A great many aspects of the debt ceiling issue are beyond the reach of most people–failing to pay international creditors, putting the dollar at risk, disrupting credit markers, but one very simple thing tens of millions of seniors will understand is this: “Your SS and SS disability checks will stop. Medicare bills wont’ be paid.” And to top it all off, this lump of coal will occur right at the beginning of the holiday season and the start of winter, with the attendant need to pay heating bills. So here’s one thing I propose to do and I hope many will join in. I’m going to start contacting the AARP and any other agency on aging that I can find. I’m going to ask them to alert their members to the danger of the debt ceiling breach and ask them to urge seniors to start calling Republican members of Congress. So far, I’ve not heard any public spokesman for AARP address members on this threat, nor have I heard any discussion about this from local senior groups. This is a powerful force that we need to unleash. A lot of phone calls, a lot of interest and maybe we can get a new pressure point building.

  23. 76 japa21
    October 8, 2013 at 10:05 am

  24. 77 desertflower
    October 8, 2013 at 10:14 am

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/08/the-morning-plum-gop-addicted-to-something-for-nothing-governing/

    If you want to understand why the White House and Democrats are saying they must not cave to GOP extortion demands, look no further than the present. The GOP addiction to something-for-nothing governing — in which Republicans continue to refuse to let go of the idea that the threat of economic disaster should give them leverage to extract unilateral concessions from Dems — is manifesting itself in the governing chaos you’re witnessing right now. In other words, we know what will happen later if this is legitimized: More of the same.
    Today House Republicans are set to meet to chart the way forward, even as polls continue to show they are losing this battle. There are various ideas being bandied about. One idea is to package funding of the government and a debt limit hike into a big budget deal that would give Republicans a bunch of spending cuts and other goodies. But conservatives are wary of this plan because it doesn’t destroy or substantially delay Obamacare, so it’s unclear whether House Republicans could pass it. Another idea is for short term funding of the government and a temporary debt limit hike, to buy time to keep up the fight, but Republican aides say this, too, would face substantial resistance among House Republicans.
    In other words, it’s not even clear whether stopgap solutions can pass the GOP House, because they don’t extract enough in unilateral concessions from Dems.

  25. 78 japa21
    October 8, 2013 at 10:15 am

  26. 79 desertflower
    October 8, 2013 at 10:17 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/08/opinion/obamas-options.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=opinion&

    THE Republicans in the House of Representatives who declare that they may refuse to raise the debt limit threaten to do more than plunge the government into default. They are proposing a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment, which states that “the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law” is sacrosanct and “shall not be questioned.”

    • 80 nathkatun7
      October 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      If Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling, we need a group of citizens to band together and file a law suite against Congress for violating Article I, Sect. 8 of the original Constitution and Section 4, of the 14th Amendment.

  27. October 8, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Senator Harry Reid @SenatorReid 2m
    By shutting down the government, Republicans are satisfying the Koch Brothers while millions of people are suffering.

    • October 8, 2013 at 10:19 am

      We both posted it at same time. See below

    • October 8, 2013 at 10:24 am

      http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/08/safe-seats-and-the-media-spin-about-radical-rep/196336

      That storyline is deeply flawed, however. It leaves out crucial context, like the simple fact that for decades a huge number of congressional Democrats have enjoyed safe seats. Yet they never equated comfortable victory margins with permission to adopt the extremist measures now displayed by Republicans as they provoke crisis after crisis. The safe seat spin also gives Republicans a pass as they continue to steer the country towards dangerous territory.

      Media message: If politicians don’t have to worry about re-election, naturally they’re going to act more extreme.

      Journalists seem to like the ‘safe seat’ explanation because on the surface it appears to make sense,. (Oh, that’s why Republicans are acting so outlandishly.) And journalists also seem to be searching for a quasi-rational explanation or justification for why Republican anarchists in the House are behaving the way they are. But that’s the wrong way to approach the story.

  28. October 8, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Harry Reid FINALLY calls it. #GOPShutdown IS Koch job

  29. 88 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2013 at 10:22 am

    A classic example of people voting against their own interests for stupid reasons: Vote for Romney to “hurt” the Pres Obama, but don’t take away the good things the same Pres Obama has done to benefit us….

  30. October 8, 2013 at 10:25 am

    DesertFlower, Lockewasright and anyone else in AZ.

    Arizona and Mississippi are the only two states not fielding ANY Dem 2014 challengers to incumbent GOP congresscritters. *

    There must be someone like Gabby Giffords who can challenge one or more of your RWNJ reps. (Gabby is truly unique, such a dynamic, accomplished woman — a true American heroine whose life story should be featured in a biopic — not focusing on the Tucson massacre, but on her incredible life leading up to that point).

    And while you’re at it AZ, please do something about your State reps as well:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona-lawmaker-rages-against-de-fuhrer-obama-in-angry-facebook-post

    * The @KDemocrats tweet was posted yesterday, but I listed the states with the fewest Dem challengers in my version of their tweet. It looks like they update this list on a monthly basis.

    • 90 desertflower
      October 8, 2013 at 10:30 am

      Look at her! She’s batshit nuts. The face of our state legislature:) I HAVE to get outta here!!!

      I hope a good Dem steps up and challenges any one of these idiots. We have 4 that need to go!

  31. October 8, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Howdy all you O’s!!!!! It’s another great getting up day in TODville, wouldn’t you say???!!!??

    {{{{NCLB}}}}

  32. 94 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2013 at 10:31 am

    CARL BERNSTEIN SPEAKS A BIT OF TRUTH AND PUNCTURES THE MEDIA FIREWALL

    Carl Bernstein Slams Media’s ’50/50′ Shutdown Coverage

    (H/T TPM)

  33. 97 Linda
    October 8, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Now Cantor is asking for a delay in the penalty if people don’t sign up by the deadline.

    He is blaming the problems with the website….

    At the same time…the cryon on CNN is saying the problems have been fixed.

    • 98 jacquelineoboomer
      October 8, 2013 at 11:06 am

      If there’s been any “delay” in signing up, it’ll be a few days … so, no, Cantor, just take your eyes off O’care which is moving forward, re-open the government and stop hurting our economy.

  34. October 8, 2013 at 10:34 am

    • 100 Nena20409
      October 8, 2013 at 11:41 am

      Jim DeMint is staying true to when he said in 2009…..ACA if denied would have been pres Obama’s Waterloo. Elephants have long memory. They are doing what they have always said they would do. Their mission as accepted from KOCHRoaches and their kind, Repeal, remove and Destroy historically, president Obama’s presidency.

  35. 101 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2013 at 10:38 am

    This is not “breaking” news, but I’ll take it.

  36. 102 57andfemale
    October 8, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Oh, sage TOD peeps – what do we think of the move by Republicans with bills to ‘pay interest on debt’ if default occurs, thereby shutting Wall St. up and placating bond holders while causing misery to everyone else?

    Input appreciated. I don’t know what to think of the implications of that.

    I know that if PBO took any executive action remedies, it wouldn’t just lead to a constitutional crisis (which, frankly, would be interesting in the courts), but they would impeach instantly. Can these Evil Ones have their cake and eat it, too? Keep bond holders happy while screwing everyone else?

    It’s way more complicated than I have time to research today. I have to actually do work and stuff. Input?

    • 103 cookemom
      October 8, 2013 at 11:04 am

      A lot to do about nothing, imo. Just another shiny object to distract their low info voters. They won’t even think about impeach, they can’t even get Ben Lawdy, IRS, or anything else to stick, how will they ever get an impeachment to do anything but seal their fate Like the Senate will allow that to happen. The Kochs may be crazy, but they aren’t stupid.

  37. October 8, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Morning all! Great Rise and Shine as always. Happy birthday Bill. Have a great day. Retirement is about working hard at what you want to do.

  38. 106 4morefor44
    October 8, 2013 at 10:49 am

    boy, if republicans have lost hardwood and balz, they’re really going limp. (couldn’t resist).

    seriously though, those two “journalists” are great enablers of republican talking points, so word must’ve gone out from their bosses.

  39. October 8, 2013 at 10:49 am

  40. 110 Linda
    October 8, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Amy Kremer who started The Tea Party Patriots and then was ousted in a coup went to The Tea Party express in 2009 just lied multiple times on TV.

    She said Harry Reid would not allow a vote on the Defund or the Delay Obamacare legislation.

    I watched the Senate vote on both of those , they were Amendment to the CR and both of them failed.

    She is a fraud.

  41. 112 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Fareed Zakaria – government shutdown ‘extortion’

    (H/T zizi) Re-postong from the brilliant post by zizi.

    • 113 nathkatun7
      October 8, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Fareed was absolutely brilliant, and right on the money, about democracy the American Constitutional process.

  42. 114 jacquelineoboomer
    October 8, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Yes, I saw that caption (“and Jacqueline’s new best friend”), Chips, ya little rascal! I’m thinkin’ it’s all a test to see if we actually READ the glorious stuff you post here!

    Good morning, TODville! Happy Birthday Bill R and Jackie4Obama and any other delicious Libras out there!

  43. 119 dotster3
    October 8, 2013 at 11:11 am

    I don’t know why I tuned into the View today—-remember thinking the last time I watched that they need to just wrap this up and head out to pasture. It’s really bleak right now. And then I discover that they have nutsy Jesse Ventura as a guest host—-why? Who thought anyone needed to hear his deep thoughts? They ask him what he thinks of the shutdown, as if his opinion was significant, and he expounded surprisingly semi coherently. But then good ol’ Whoopi chimed in with her “Both Sides” contribution—–which annoys me the most of any of the nonsense. Said American people are really pissed at “Both Sides” and will really make “Both Sides” pay at election time. That was enough for me—-too dumb—goodbye.

  44. 120 HZ
    October 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    A Happy Birthday to Bill and Jacqueline, and Jackie. I will bring up the end of the line at the end of this month. Look like we have some great cakes to eat this month to some beautiful people. I hope all of the birthdays today will have a lovely day today. Enjoy your celebrations with joyfulness.

    Also to JO’Boomr, what a lovely tweet from our beautiful Ms. Jarret. The team appreciates their TOD family here, and that is a fact. Thanks JO’Boomr. ((((( Love it, and congrats)))))))HZ


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