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Early Bird Chat

A Year Ago Today: “Please Proceed, Governor.”

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MoooOOOooorning!


121 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. 1 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:04 am

    Morning.

  2. 6 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:06 am

    “Please Proceed, Governor.” Never gets old.

  3. 8 utaustinliberal
    October 16, 2013 at 8:09 am

    And the universe froze for a solid minute. What a moment.

  4. 10 vcprezofan2
    October 16, 2013 at 8:09 am

    Good Morning TODobots! Morning, Chips Chica!
    .
    Someone decided to miss work today and *I* got tapped on the shoulder to replace them, which means I’ll miss most of the live action today – sigh! Considered saying my big toe was hurting, but since this was my 1st October call, I decided to be sensible. :roll:
    .
    Chips, don’t forget to wash the teddy bear today for tomorrow so that it can be fresh smelling when Danny arrives!

    I’ll peAk in, if I can. Hold the fort and have a truly, positive day, everyone!

  5. 11 Linda
    October 16, 2013 at 8:11 am

    bringing over.

    This haunting picture says it all.. just look at the pain in those faces.

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1408939/thumbs/r-JOHN-BOEHNER-huge.jpg

    • 12 Judith Fardig
      October 16, 2013 at 10:24 am

      Wish the pain on those heartless faces was for all the people they have lied to and hurt in the process of their hostage-taking.

  6. 13 ber6964
    October 16, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Good Morning Chips and TOD Early birds.

  7. 15 Ladyhawke
    October 16, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Congressman Chris Van Hollen’s youtube video pulling back the curtain on Eric Cantor’s dirty rule change that guaranteed the shutdown and prevented the Democrats from using the discharge petition to reopen the government sooner is rapidly approaching 3 MILLION VIEWS.

  8. 18 mtmarilyn
    October 16, 2013 at 8:14 am

    Good morning TODbots! I am scared but I trust this President. Coming here keeps me going. It’s going to be a long day.

    • 19 globalcitizenlinda
      October 16, 2013 at 9:14 am

      hang in there!

      PBO is in charge and will do what is in the best interest of the country and the world

  9. 20 utaustinliberal
    October 16, 2013 at 8:17 am
  10. 24 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:20 am
  11. 32 Melissa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Watching Morning Joke this morning and they’re going hard against the Tea Stupids. Extremely sad tho that they’re saying it’s because it’s starting to hurt rich people’s pockets. The poor people who’ve been out of pay for the last 2 weeks, nah.
    I’m so angry at those Tea Taliban’s and the idiots that vote for them!!!

    • 33 99ts
      October 16, 2013 at 8:38 am

      They were also attacking the President and the democrats – and seemed to me to be only attacking the GOP because they were stupid to start a fight they could not win. If the Senate Dems had given in – they would have been praising the GOP actions.

  12. October 16, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Good morning everyone. Hoping for resolution today.

  13. October 16, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Good morning, Chips and TODville.

  14. 38 amk for obama
    October 16, 2013 at 8:35 am

    chips, you should get one of this ‘native’ breed too.

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  15. 39 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Careful what you ask for:

    • 40 99ts
      October 16, 2013 at 8:43 am

      Not too keen on Dewhurst either – seems they may have to start endorsing democrats!

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:01 am

      Ha, too late now, Africa. Maybe next time, they’ll use a little judgment. Texas Dems need to start recruiting some stellar candidate to run against this traitor.

    • 42 Ladyhawke
      October 16, 2013 at 9:04 am

      Let’s hope there will be a flurry of editorials calling out the unhinged & deranged tea party crowd. It’s long overdue.

      Editorial: Dear Rep. Yoho

      The Sun has received very different messages from your constituents. We received 11 letters to the editor about you on Sunday alone, the day the Post’s story appeared on our front page. Every one of them opposed your position, with writers saying they were “ashamed,” “disappointed,” and “horrified” by your actions.

      http://www.gainesville.com/article/20131008/OPINION01/131009677/1076/opinion01?p=1&tc=pg

      • October 16, 2013 at 9:23 am

        Today is the third editorial in our paper that is very critical of the TP actions. As all of you know, this is in RED east TN. Every day there’s at least one LTE critical of TP/GOP and at least one supportive of Dems/PO.

  16. 44 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:38 am
  17. 45 symmetry11
    October 16, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Good morning all….PBO should as they say buy the rights to that phrase. It will be remember for years to come.

  18. 47 africa
    October 16, 2013 at 8:39 am
  19. 59 desertflower
    October 16, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Morning! Well, The WSJ has had enough and is screaming “Uncle!”

    The Wall Street Journal editorial page has had enough: “It’s time to wrap up this comedy of political errors.”

    “President Obama called their bluff, no doubt in part to blame the disruption on the GOP and further tarnish the party’s public image. Now the most Republicans will get out of this is lower public approval and a chance to negotiate with Mr. Obama again before the next debt-limit deadline. If the Senate passes its compromise, Mr. Boehner will have little choice other than to bring it to the floor and let it pass with votes from either party. Mr. Obama will have to deliver enough Democratic votes to pass it.”

    “At least that’s better than getting the blame for whatever happens if Treasury stops sending out Social Security checks in order to prioritize debt repayments. The politics of that are little better than defaulting on debt. Republicans can best help their cause now by getting this over with and moving on to fight more intelligently another day.”

    I took the day off work to try and get things done today. …what are the chances of that?

    • 60 Vicki
      October 16, 2013 at 9:00 am

      Chances aresn’t so good df if you are trying to get the news live as much as possible and then hear what fellow TOD folks are making of unfolding events.

  20. 61 desertflower
    October 16, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Charles Pierce gets my vote today!!

    A great portion of the courtier press that now expresses horror at what is going on now went gleefully along for the ride as it became inevitable. Any members of that courtier press who relished the pursuit of Bill Clinton’s penis, or conducted the absurd campaign of untruth that was waged against Al Gore between 1999 and 2000 lost the right years ago credibly to denounce conservative extremism and Republican vandalism. That means you, Roger Simon of Politico, who was so shocked the other day to discover that racism may have afflicted the process of government since the president’s election, but who once claimed to right to make candidates like Gore “jump through hoops” for the pure hella-fun of it. That means you, Chris Matthews, who chased the presidential dick for two years, all the way through an impeachment process that was a constitutional absurdity, but who now discovers that the campaign of destruction never truly stopped. That means you, Andrew Sullivan, with your current existential torment over How It Came To This. (Pro tip: The Bell Curve? Betsy McCaughey on health-care? Fifth-column liberals? You helped.) This means you, David Brooks, sucking your thumb on book leave while the monster that you got rich feeding grows into its full power. This means all of you who went along for the ride on torture, and on Iraq, and who hid under the bed after 9/11. This is how the power came to rest with Ted Yoho, who is a fool and a know-nothing. This is how historical inevitability is created. This is how its momentum becomes unstoppable. This is how the wreckage piles up.

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/today-in-the-reign-of-morons-101613

  21. 67 desertflower
    October 16, 2013 at 8:54 am

    http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/blog-archives/2013/10/why-isnt-the-gop-complaining-about-the-deficit-because-its-dropping-fast.html

    As we careen headlong toward the debt ceiling deadline, with the House Republicans and Speaker John Boehner in full Three-Stooges-Trying-To-Fix-The-Plumbing mode, the issue area that’s been overshadowed by the grandstanding, political props and brinksmanship is government spending itself.

    The budget deficit is really the 4,000 pound gorilla in the room and the Republicans refuse to discuss anything other than the fact that employer mandate for the dreaded Affordable Care Act begins a year after the individual mandate. Yes, we’re in the middle of a showdown over the debt because of Obamacare rather than, you know, spending and fiscal responsibility.

    Why aren’t they talking about the deficit? That’s easy: they can’t say anything bad about it because the Obama administration’s record on the deficit is kind of stellar.

  22. 69 donna dem 4 obama
    October 16, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Good Morning TOD
    I’m enjoying messing with our friend Mark Knoller today :)

    Off to work I go. Everyone have a great O’Day!

  23. 71 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Mia Farrow is a hoot! :-)

  24. 73 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 9:01 am
    • 74 Sandy1110
      October 16, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      Maybe if Bernie had focused on how harmful the Tea Party is instead of complaining about what PBO hasn’t done, there might have been a little more attention paid to how harmful the Tea Party is.

    • 75 nospin
      October 16, 2013 at 2:47 pm

      Sanders can miss me. His behavior leaves a lot to be desired.

  25. 76 japa21
    October 16, 2013 at 9:03 am

    GM all. Will today be the day that some sanity returns to country?

  26. 77 hopefruit2
    October 16, 2013 at 9:06 am
  27. 78 99ts
    October 16, 2013 at 9:08 am

    The media is now stirring up more fire by attacking Boehner and the house – viz – The house has caved – the house is completely defeated – completely incompetent, disorganized.

    They spent 5 years telling the GOP in congress how wonderful they were, now when it is necessary for the GOP in the house to do something – the media is doing all in their power to make sure Boehner and Co do absolutely nothing.

    The US media don’t want this solved. They want to see the President having to sort out the mess of the republican congress – they do not want a resolution that helps the President.

    The media(R,USA) is on its last legs – they are done as a mover of public opinion – they are a disgrace to a democracy.

    • 79 99ts
      October 16, 2013 at 9:09 am

      Why am I so stupid as to listen to Chuck Todd – sigh

      • 80 anniebella
        October 16, 2013 at 9:31 am

        99ts, I do not know why you would waste your time listening to Chuck Todd. Listening to NOTHING is better then listening to Todd. My advice fine a real journalists to listen too.

  28. 81 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 9:08 am
    • 82 99ts
      October 16, 2013 at 9:12 am

      So hope he wins by 25%. Christie throwing a special election on a Wednesday – another GOP way to reduce the vote. Then again, the GOP being the party of stupid may be the ones who lose out because of the change of voter day.

    • 83 anniebella
      October 16, 2013 at 9:33 am

      Hopefully he is on his way to being Senator Booker today.

  29. 84 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 9:10 am
    • 85 amk for obama
      October 16, 2013 at 9:33 am

      Some one should post how many bills that Nancy brought to a succesful passing as compared to the orange man.

  30. 86 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 9:13 am

    :roll:

    • 87 hopefruit2
      October 16, 2013 at 9:16 am

      To his credit, he said the same thing on the Martin Bashir show yesterday. I just wish that he (and his MSM colleagues) would have used their platforms to call out the Teabaggers way back in 2009/10, rather than promote them and pretend they were a grassroots movement…

  31. 90 hopefruit2
    October 16, 2013 at 9:13 am
  32. 92 Dudette
    October 16, 2013 at 9:15 am
  33. October 16, 2013 at 9:15 am

    The Morning Plum: John Boehner’s `moment of truth’ arrives

    By Greg Sargent

    October 16 at 9:01 am


    From the very beginning of this whole crisis, two facts have been plainly obvious to anyone who cared to appreciate the basic dynamics of the situation:

    1) The incentives always argued overwhelmingly in favor of Dems refusing to concede any meaningful ground to the GOP demand for major unilateral concessions in a context where Republicans were using the threat of extensive harm to the country to get their way. This was the only way to prevent this from happening to Dems — and the country — again.

    2) There was never any compromise that could prove acceptable to both Tea Party conservatives on one side, and Obama and Senate Dems on the other. One side believes it must reserve the threat of widespread damage to the country as leverage to cripple the Obama presidency before it destroys the country. The other wants to end use of that as leverage for good. That core difference was inherently unbridgeable.

    Today, with Senators close to a deal to reopen the government and lift the debt limit, John Boehner may finally have to come to terms with those two facts, and accept their implications: The only way out of this mess is through an alliance of non-Tea Party Republicans and Democrats.

    The collapse of the House’s plan to end the crisis — precipitated by conservatives who said it didn’t extract enough in concessions on Obamacare in exchange for averting widespread harm to the country – once again confirms point two above. Meanwhile, Jackie Calmes has a good piece reporting on the White House’s conclusion early on that the only real option was to refuse to legitimize GOP extortion tactics, having been badly burned in 2011. This basic White House motive should have been obvious for weeks.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/16/the-morning-plum-john-boehners-moment-of-truth-arrives/

  34. 94 Linda
    October 16, 2013 at 9:17 am

    The GOP cause of death on the certificate reads ” Self inflicted wound to the oral cavity.”

  35. October 16, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Good Morning everyone!
    Haven’t been here for awhile.

  36. October 16, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Please, please make today you put in calls to every congressional office, but especially Republican ones. Call ALL the offices–regional and DC., then e-mail and tweet. It makes a difference. I can tell that the office staffs are feeling overwhelmed so please keep it up. We can’t let TP calls dominate the lines.

  37. October 16, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Default Was Never An Option

    by BooMan
    Wed Oct 16th, 2013 at 09:03:53 AM EST

    A few days ago, Rolling Stone published a Tim Dickinson article on the inner doings of “the Republican suicide machine.” It’s a big piece, and on page four there is a description of John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and their relationship to the business community.

    Boehner and Cantor have learned to speak the language of the Tea Party – the majority leader more fluently than the speaker – but their real job is to keep the old Republican-patronage machine humming. In their political bloodlines and in their donor networks, both Boehner and Cantor are deeply connected to the politics of Rove. Boehner’s signature accomplishment was steering George W. Bush’s education initiative No Child Left Behind to passage – a law that [Heritage Action president Michael] Needham decries as “a gargantuan federalization of education” and “an anathema to conservatives.” For his part, Cantor was a key member of the 2003 Tom DeLay whip team that twisted arms in an infamous all-night session required to pass the deficit-financed Medicare prescription-drug plan, a Rove-driven gift to Big Pharma and the most sweeping expansion of the program since the days of Lyndon Johnson.
    Looting Main Street

    Boehner is renowned as a “Chamber of Commerce Republican” – and the campaign-finance data are unambiguous: In the 2012 election cycle, Boehner was the House’s top recipient of campaign cash from 34 different industries, from hedge funds and investment firms to coal mining, student­loan companies, hospitals, nursing homes and Big Tobacco. He was also the top recipient of campaign cash from lobbyists themselves, raking in $393,000 according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In D.C., the speaker’s clubby network of staffers and lobbyists is known as “Boehnerland,” and its members include heavy hitters for Citigroup, UPS, Altria, AmEx, Akin Gump and the National Federation of Independent Businesses. “The Boehner folks barbecue on Sunday together, they go on vacations together, they name their kids after each other,” says the former leadership aide.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/10/16/9353/3839#1

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:32 am

      So, Boehner put the American people through hell for nothing? Is that the point of this article? He’s so beholden to business Republicans that he would never hurt them, just the rest of us and the poor souls who have now gone over two weeks without pay? I didn’t think my contempt for Boehner could get deeper, but it just did. I do hope there’s a nice, very warm place in hell being kept well fired up for this disgusting man and completely incompetent speaker. Fight in 2014 like you’ve never fought before. Boehner can’t be allowed to hold that gavel ever again.

    • 102 99ts
      October 16, 2013 at 10:00 am

      Booman has never stopped saying there will be no default

  38. 103 desertflower
    October 16, 2013 at 9:35 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us/signs-indicate-that-obamas-debt-ceiling-gamble-may-be-paying-off.html?hp&_r=0

    More than two years ago, President Obama was still in the thick of his previous showdown with Republican House leaders over the nation’s debt limit when he called five senior advisers into his office. He did not ask their advice, one said. Rather, he told them, in a way that brooked no discussion: From now on, no more negotiating over legislation so basic and essential to the economy, and the country.

    “I’m not going through this again. It’s bad for democracy. It’s bad for the presidency,” Mr. Obama said, according to the adviser, who declined to be identified describing internal discussions. The president then told the group — his Treasury secretary, chief Congressional lobbyist, chief economic adviser and both his and the vice president’s chiefs of staff — to spread that word, “even in your body language.”

    Since then, so has Mr. Obama. To make his message on the debt ceiling stick, he had to deliver it, repeatedly, not only to Republicans convinced that he would “cave,” as many often have said, but also to business groups, the broader public and even to Democrats in Congress. Failure could shake not only the economy, but also Mr. Obama’s presidency, given his reputation, fair or not, for drawing red lines and then watching foes cross them.

    The current fight is hardly over, yet the steady retreat of House Republicans since late last week, when they first proposed a short-term increase in the debt limit without policy strings, suggests that Mr. Obama’s big gamble could be paying off. It is a stand that was, and still is, fraught with risks if neither side backs down.

    • 104 Linda
      October 16, 2013 at 9:39 am

      “Failure could shake not only the economy, but also Mr. Obama’s presidency, given his reputation, fair or not, for drawing red lines and then watching foes cross them.”

      I reject that sentence. What is this person talking about ?

  39. 106 forus50
    October 16, 2013 at 9:42 am
  40. 107 Ladyhawke
    October 16, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Tea party Republicans put dollar’s reputation at risk

    by David Cay Johnston

    Rather, the danger is that the House’s tea party Republicans, in their zeal to block President Barack Obama’s policies, especially on health care, have damaged investors’ long-term trust in the U.S. government. And by thwarting the principle of majority rule, they have demonstrated a disrupting power that they may wield into the next decade, causing further erosion in confidence.

    Trust is crucial to investment, economic growth, fiscal stability and the continuation of the tremendous benefits the U.S. gets from the dollar’s serving as the global reserve currency. Tea party Republicans undermine that trust by voicing wild claims that have little to no basis in fact, especially their absurd assertion that the federal government is going broke.

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/15/government-shutdowndefaultteapartyhouserepublicans.html

  41. 108 hopefruit2
    October 16, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Haha…too damn late, I say. You planted the seed, you fed the beast, you BUILT THAT!

  42. 109 Linda
    October 16, 2013 at 9:52 am

    I want to know why the Dems only have 186 signatures….who are the 14 hold outs ?

  43. 110 hopefruit2
    October 16, 2013 at 9:58 am
    • October 16, 2013 at 10:00 am

      That sound you hear is the entire world collectively shouting, “DUH.”

    • 112 Ladyhawke
      October 16, 2013 at 10:04 am

      UNFIT TO GOVERN

      The dubious value of a leader who can’t lead

      By Steve Benben

      ———————————————

      What’s more, the list of failures eventually becomes unsustainable. A Democratic source on Capitol Hill last night sent around a brutal collection of bills Boehner asked his members to support, only to see his own House GOP conference reject his appeals: a grand bargain, a debt-ceiling bill in 2011, a payroll tax extension, a transportation bill, a farm bill, one fiscal-cliff bill, another fiscal-cliff bill, another farm bill, and then yesterday. I think my source might have even missed a couple.

      As we discussed a couple of weeks ago, it seems the political mainstream is still coming to terms with a dynamic for which there is no modern precedent: a Speaker of the House with no power, no backbone, and no prospects for success. Boehner isn’t just failing in basic tasks, he’s failing as Speaker at a historic level.

      When Boehner reflects on his tenure, what can he even offer as a defense? He has one shutdown, two debt-ceiling crises, and no accomplishments. Republicans aren’t listening to him and Democrats don’t see the point in trying to negotiate with him. The Speaker’s record has become one, long train-wreck.

      —————————————————————-

      http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/15/government-shutdowndefaultteapartyhouserepublicans.html

  44. October 16, 2013 at 9:59 am
  45. 115 hopefruit2
    October 16, 2013 at 10:00 am
    • October 16, 2013 at 10:06 am

      hf, as I watched that video yesterday about weasel Boehner confessing to handing out tobacco lobbying checks on the House floor, it really turned my stomach. I knew of this but hadn’t seen the video. He disgusts me.

  46. October 16, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Some interesting detail here:

  47. 120 99ts
    October 16, 2013 at 10:14 am

    No idea who I am listening to – but it seems all democrats in the house will vote for the senate bill (Nancy Pelosi has her members in order) – and when asked about Boehner’s position – the Senator being interviewed said he was concerned about lots of things but John Boehner and the internal issues of the GOP were not part of those concerns

  48. 121 Linda
    October 16, 2013 at 10:18 am

    7 Democrats voted for the rules change that kept the shutdown going……

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll505.xml

    Barber
    Barrow (GA)
    Maffei
    Maloney, Sean
    Matheson
    McIntyre
    Peterson
    McIntyre


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