107 Responses to “Week In Toons”


  1. November 24, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Great toons!!!!!

  2. 5 Anna
    November 24, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Congrats on first Bobfr. It’s toon time.

  3. 11 desertflower
    November 24, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    http://upyernoz.blogspot.com/2013/11/bloodthirstiness-test.html

    Bloodthirstiness test
    In the long term, I have no idea whether this deal will work. But in the short term, it will function pretty well as a psychological test for politicians and pundits who comment on it. A negotiated deal always has a better chance of success than a military strike simply because a successful negotiated deal will have cooperation of people on the ground whereas a successful military strike will not.

    Anyone who object to the fact that a deal was reached (as opposed to citing particular detail they object to), isn’t really interested in stopping the nuclear program. They just want to kill some Persians. Violent military action is not a means to an end, but an end in itself.

  4. November 24, 2013 at 7:35 pm
  5. 23 desertflower
    November 24, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_11/sidelining_the_warmongers047926.php

    Any agreement with Iran was going to have to allow the Iranian government to argue that they’d gotten a good deal. Likewise, any agreement was going to be opposed by Israel and Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia’s satellites in the Gulf region. Any agreement with Iran was also destined to be opposed by President John McCain, Vice-President Sarah Palin, and Secretary of State Lindsey Graham. All of that was baked in the cake, and none of it has even a little bit to do with the details of the agreement.

    There has been enormous pressure on the administration to join in a regional sectarian fight on the side of the Sunnis against the Shiites, most pressingly in Syria’s civil war, but the administration has wriggled out of that trap and has so far allowed diplomacy to prevail against the desires of the warmongers. Those who preferred Obama to Clinton because of the distinction in their positions on the authorization to use military force in Iraq now have something concrete to point to, to argue that electing Obama would lead to a more peaceful world than would electing Clinton.

    • November 24, 2013 at 7:53 pm

      That hasn’t changed. I recently saw a photo of then Sen. Obama speaking to a crowd that filled the streets as far as the eye could see. People didn’t want Sen. Clinton, they were aching for a different kind of leadership. It was the MSN putting her ahead, not the people. After a Bush, a Clinton and another Bush, we did not want Clinton.

      • 25 desertflower
        November 24, 2013 at 7:57 pm

        Not only that, but she was more of a hawk….people are sick to death of war. Even more so now.

        • November 24, 2013 at 8:02 pm

          Yes, I was against her from the start because of her vote in Iraq. She knew better. If I knew it she should have known it.

          • 27 99ts
            November 25, 2013 at 1:42 am

            She had much more experience & knowledge than any of us to make a decision on Iraq CarolMae – and yet she still made the wrong decision.

            • November 25, 2013 at 2:17 am

              She did it for pure political reasons. There were so many clues as to why it was wrong to vote for war. We’ve lost all three of our passionate, well-spoken Senators against it. Kennedy, Byrd and Paul Wellstone. There were others, but those three speeches I’ll never forget. I also am disgusted by the idiocy of some of the American people. About 90% believed Iraq was behind 9/11 and the MSN didn’t try to tell them the truth. In fact the cable channels had their variations on the March to War graphics like it was inevitable. You want to know a secret? My husband and I tried to tell people the facts, but nobody listened. As I watched it unfold, I just broke down. I just knew it was a big hoax. Pres. Obama has had to clean up so much with no cooperation. I don’t get it, I just get it. :’( After Osama got away I knew that was rigged too. Bush lost interest in him. SMH. . .

  6. 29 LDS
    November 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    THE PEACE MAKER.

  7. November 24, 2013 at 7:54 pm
    • 31 99ts
      November 25, 2013 at 1:44 am

      It is truly horrific that they base all decisions on being against the President/administration. Can’t remember a time when this happened ALL the time.

  8. November 24, 2013 at 7:54 pm
  9. November 24, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Congrats Bobfr! LP has some great toons. He’s also got great photos at his own blog, and Smartypants is very brave with last post! ;)

  10. November 24, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Time to change into a number!

  11. 35 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Congrats Bobfr!! Thanks LP!!

  12. November 24, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Urge all of you to read this …

    • 37 99ts
      November 25, 2013 at 1:48 am

      Thanks Bob – GG is causing much grief in my world (not that our current PM doesn’t deserve some grief – but preferably not GG generated) – as he is in most democratic countries. Interesting who he chooses to attack.

  13. 38 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Bringing this moving video over from last thread, thanks to Alycee!!

  14. 41 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:03 pm
  15. November 24, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    “On Snowden and Coincidences

    I regularly get asked, often by soi disant journalists online, if I have “evidence” that Edward Snowden is under Kremlin control. To me – or to anyone familiar with counterintelligence or Russia, or both – that question is a sign of something resembling stupidity. Let’s be honest: if you don’t think that Ed’s under the control of Russian security services after he’s spent five months in Putin’s republic, you’re pretty clueless about how that place works, perhaps willfully. That’s five months during which media have never – not once – been allowed near Ed without a significant junket of bulky-looking guys around him. I’ve been saying from the moment Snowden landed at Moscow that Russian intelligence is part of the picture, and that clearly bothers some people a great deal.

    ….. ”

    really valuable insights – http://20committee.com/2013/11/23/on-snowden-and-coincidences/

  16. 49 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:08 pm
  17. November 24, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Don’t forget this filibuster toon (for some reason “mean donkey” cracks me up):

  18. 51 JER
    November 24, 2013 at 8:19 pm
  19. 54 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Great roundup, LP!

  20. November 24, 2013 at 8:20 pm
    • 56 jackiegrumbacher
      November 24, 2013 at 9:57 pm

      Forus, thanks for this. It lays it all out–very touching and truthful tweet. People in Iran want a life without fear and with hope for their future, which makes them no different from us or from any other people on this planet.

  21. 57 JER
    November 24, 2013 at 8:20 pm
  22. 58 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:21 pm
  23. 59 forus50
    November 24, 2013 at 8:23 pm
  24. 62 forus50
    November 24, 2013 at 8:24 pm
  25. November 24, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    I know we all are Pete Souza fans……. National Geographic’s photo contest submission deadline is Nov. 30. There have been 3000+ submissions so far. If you have friends or family in photography, there is a link provided to submit photos for the contest. Winner will be on a Cover in the beginning of next year. Here are some 50 different selections I picked:

    • 64 PoliticalJunkessa
      November 24, 2013 at 8:51 pm

      I used to get lost in NGs when I was a little girl. Such beautiful pics.

      • November 25, 2013 at 10:27 pm

        One of the only magazines I still subscribe to, PoliticalJunkessa. I have been itching to get into photography for a while………so I do it vicariously through other peoples beautiful photos :)

  26. 66 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:27 pm
  27. November 24, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Several folk whom I respect have noted that value in having ‘hardliners’ in Iran, Israel, the US etc all upset at the deal and the process as that will keep it balanced for the folk actually committed to peace to get the final deal negotiated successfully.

    In that context, having US Senators wanting to expand sanctions may actually be helpful.

    Fact is, PBO isn’t going to sign any legislation actually effecting such sanctions – unless Iran fails to comply.

    Am noting this because it might be wise, when pushing back at someone like Senator Schumer, to keep in mind he’s a strong supporter of the President and may be being helpful – the Iranians seeing even someone in the President’s party raising the sanctions issue fits the paradigm described above regarding a balance of hardliners across the board all being vocally, visibly upset.

    Just a thought …

    • November 24, 2013 at 8:39 pm

      What’s further interesting is that DiFi, a strong supporter of Israel as is Schumer, is for the deal. And, the fact remains that this is an interim deal, not a treaty. Congress can fulminate all it wants, but PBO doesn’t need it to provide the sanctions relief which is part of the deal. He will do it based on his executive authority.

  28. 70 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 8:29 pm
  29. 73 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 8:30 pm
  30. 75 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:35 pm
  31. November 24, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    More on Iran:

    From previous thread.

    And…

    • November 24, 2013 at 8:41 pm

      Guess WWR was on the money.

      For those who were too young (or not born) in 1979, the Iranian hostage crisis caused the second gasoline crisis in the US. It wasn’t as severe as the OPEC-induced shortage in 1973-74 (when I traveled mostly by bike, and relied on gas stations to get air in my tires — any gas stations were not reliably open then).

      Also important to remember is that the nightly news covered the hostage situation just about every night; kind of like they did the Vietnam war, so Americans were constantly reminded of our humiliation and concern for the hostages’ safety.

  32. 80 africa
    November 24, 2013 at 8:38 pm
  33. 83 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    Sebastian Vettel finishes 2013 in style by winning record ninth consecutive race in Brazil. Much better driver than schumacher.

  34. November 24, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    And while we’re in a Seattle-frame-of-mind, reposting this from the last thread.

    Nena asked someone to tweet this to the President’s communications team:

  35. November 24, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    But, but, why won’t Obama lead?

    Or allow someone other than Pete Souza to photograph him, ad nauseum.

  36. November 24, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Did I see this here? I’ve been reading your comments and going all over the web. My ex-husband is a high-level consultant who works on government and business programs in trouble. He said EVERY program can be fixed. There’s no question about it.

    Mark Zuckerberg Smacks Down the Media Myth That The Website Rollout Has Doomed the ACA
    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/24/mark-zuckerberg-smacks-media-myth-website-rollout-doomed-aca.html

    ….ZUCKERBERG: You know, sometimes stuff doesn’t work when you want it to. We’ve certainly had plenty of mistakes and things that haven’t worked the way that we want to. The right thing here is just to keep on focusing on building the service that you think is right in the long-term…..

  37. 88 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    A right-wing extremist has been elected regional governor of Banska Bystrica in central Slovakia.

    Marian Kotleba won 55.5% of the vote in the run-off against Vladimir Manka from the Smer-Social Democrat party.

    Mr Kotleba is a former leader of a banned far-right organisation who now leads the ultra-nationalist Our Slovakia party.

    He has previously organised marches against Slovakia’s Roma minority.

    The now-banned neo-Nazi party which Mr Kotleba formerly led had expressed sympathy for the Nazi puppet state which ruled Slovakia during World War II.

    The former teacher has called for Slovakia to withdraw from Nato, which his party brands a “terrorist” organisation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25082487

    Stupid voters are everywhere.

  38. November 24, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Very important, extensive analysis:


    The Best Deal with Iran That We Can Get

    One that Focuses on the Real Threat and Needs for Arms Control
    By Anthony H. Cordesman
    Nov 24, 2013

    One needs to be very careful about the deal the P5+1 has reached with Iran. It is still not clear that the Supreme Leader will accept it or that Iran will put it into practice. It is a preliminary agreement that must be followed up by lasting Iranian compliance, acceptance by the U.S. and other nations, and must be maintained indefinitely into the future.

    Masking the agreement work requires a delicate balancing act by the U.S. and other members of the P5+1. The P5+1 must make it clear to Iran that any failure to honor the agreement will lead to even more stringent sanctions and that the risk of preventive strikes, extended deterrence, missile developments and a massive military build up in the Gulf remains real, all the while showing Iran that a real opening to the U.S. and the world offers it security and significant new opportunities for economic development.

    Arms control agreements fail all too often in the course of time if they do not lead to political agreements and improved relations. Time and new technologies can undermine even the best agreements, and the nuclear issue is only one issue that divides the Middle East. Iran’s tensions with Israel have already triggered an Israeli nuclear effort to deter and confront Iran with assured destruction. The Gulf states and many other Sunni Arab state see Iran as a critical threat because of its role in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Bahrain, and other Arab states and its growing asymmetric threat in the Gulf.

    As first steps go, however, this the agreement the P5+1 reached in Geneva offers what is almost certainly the best possible agreement the U.S. and its allies could negotiate, it offers Iran a new path to progress and development, and it offers the region new hope that it can avoid new conflicts and the risk of a massive arms race.

    ….. much more at the link: http://csis.org/publication/best-deal-iran

  39. 90 mtmarilyn
    November 24, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Here is my contribution to this world changing event.

    Will this show up as a tweet?

  40. November 24, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Not sure how many of you are following @JFKElmStreet but it’s a very touching endeavor …

    photo/1

  41. 95 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:34 pm
  42. 96 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:34 pm
  43. 97 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:35 pm
  44. 98 globalcitizenlinda
    November 24, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    I do not know if this has been mentioned before, so please bear with me if it is repetition;

    Like most of the stuff surrounding what really happened during the Iranian Nuclear Talks and the resulting first-step deal, we will only parts of what really happened;

    From this report, it is stated that PBO himself approved the final content of the language of the agreement.

    If the report is true, it serves to demonstrate that PBO took total personal ownership of the policy/decisions and thereby fully assumed the risks of the process/outcome;

    Here is the full link to the report;

    Special Report: ‘Great Satan’ meets ‘Axis of Evil’ and strikes a deal
    BY LOUIS CHARBONNEAU, PARISA HAFEZI AND ARSHAD MOHAMMED
    GENEVA Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:30pm EST

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/25/us-iran-nuclear-talks-special-report-idUSBRE9AO00820131125?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

    Based on reports of prior national security decision-making, what many have emphasized is how PBO takes full ownership of the entire risk-rewards potential – as should be (or as they say, the “buck stops with him”);

    Some of the comments that accompanied this tweet were derisive or skeptical so I took a few minutes to respond as I saw fit;

    Please take a few moments and read the article and then see if you have something to respond to the usual suspects (in the comments) who seem to want to trivial PBO’s role;

    Better still, use the link as you see fit to promote whatever content stands out to you;

  45. 99 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:41 pm
  46. 100 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:44 pm
  47. 101 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:47 pm
  48. 102 amk for obama
    November 24, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    I leave you with this.

  49. 103 JER
    November 24, 2013 at 9:50 pm
  50. November 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Amazing, really ….

  51. 105 susanne
    November 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    aloha chips and tods
    i’m so proud of president obama, and secretary kerry, and everyone involved in the historic and momentous accord that was just created in geneva. and i’m equally confident our president has many more extraordinary and game-changing successes ahead.

    this piece in our local news might interest you, about the time when president kennedy came to hawaii. pbo would have been a very ltitle boy, but i like to think his mom took him to see the president. surely, she would not have missed it!

    ‘ When Kennedy left Waikiki he encountered a huge crowd. More than 100,000 people lined the streets. … “Was there anybody that stayed home? I think everybody on Oahu was there,” Paty said. ‘

    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24048116/jfk-remembered-a-look-back-at-the-presidents-hawaii-visit

  52. 107 mtmarilyn
    November 24, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Our local paper had an interesting article about the Secret Service agent who taught little John, John to salute. The agent lived in Great Falls and passed away in 2008. He was in charge of Caroline and John. Jackie asked him to watch John, John during the funeral and to keep him entertained he taught John to salute. I don’t remember reading about this before. It’s an interesting part of history.

    Here is the link http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/jfk-funeral-montana-man-played-role-in-iconic-john-jr/article_204be756-549a-11e3-9b72-0019bb2963f4.html


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