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Rise and Shine

President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama, along with Vice President Biden and Dr. Jill Biden, descend the Grand Staircase before delivering remarks at a Hanukkah reception in the Grand Foyer of the White House, Dec. 8, 2011 ( Photo by Pete Souza)

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Today (All Times Eastern):

5:15: President Obama delivers remarks at the Kennedy Center Honors Reception, East Room

7:30: The President and First Lady attend the Kennedy Center Honors, Kennedy Center

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National Memo: With Unemployment At A 5-Year Low, Will Ted Cruz Finally Stop Using This Lie?

“The single biggest job killer is Obamacare,” Senator Ted Cruz told ALEC on Thursday …. The crowd leapt to its feet.

Cruz was speaking just hours after a new unemployment claims report showed layoffs falling below 300,000 in the last week, only the second time since May of 2007. The next morning, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the unemployment rate fell to a five-year low …

For 45 straight months the private sector has been growing, creating 8 million jobs. Essentially, when it comes to the employment market, things have not been this good since before the Great Recession. With more than two million jobs already created, 2013 will be the best year for payroll gains since 2005.

…. The Republican base loves to be lied to about Obamacare — as Ted Cruz has discovered and perfected. So don’t expect him to ever stop doing it.

More here

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In case you missed it yesterday:

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Michael Hiltzik: Fiscal Idiocy: What States Refusing Medicaid Will Cost Their Citizens

Sherry Glied and Stephanie Ma of the Commonwealth Fund have done the math to show how this calculation is affected by the refusal of 25 states to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. (Thanks to Brad DeLong at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth for the tip.) The bottom line is that as a pure fiscal and budgetary matter, refusing the Medicaid expansion is insane. The cost is $57 billion a year. The Act provides for federal funding to expand the state-federal healthcare program to residents earning up to 138% of the federal poverty level. The federal share will be 100% of the expansion cost through 2016, and stay at 90% or above through 2020.

The Supreme Court made the Medicaid expansion optional, and 25 states have turned down the deal. This is entirely the handiwork of Republican governors or legislatures determined to take a dramatic stand against Obamacare. Of the 25 refusenik states, six have governors who support the expansion over the legislature’s objection; four are Democrats, including the governor-elect of Virginia, and two are Republicans. It’s already been established that the failure to expand Medicaid will deprive 5 million residents in those states of the improved access to health coverage provided by the Affordable Care Act.

More here

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LA Times: U.S. Unemployment Rate Drops To 7%, Lowest Since 2008

A surprisingly robust gain in new jobs last month helped drop the unemployment rate to a five-year low, fueling optimism about the nation’s economic recovery and raising the prospect that the government may finally start to ease a key stimulus effort this month. In its report Friday, the Labor Department said that the nation’s employers added 203,000 non-farm jobs in November and that a large part of them were higher-paying positions. The unemployment rate fell to 7%, the lowest since November 2008.

“It’s not just the quantity of the jobs but the quality,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at Mesirow Financial. “These are higher-wage jobs, and a shift from a reliance on leisure and hospitality and retail gains we had seen in recent months.” The economy has averaged more than 200,000 net new jobs a month for the last four months. That’s the sustained level that central bank officials have said they wanted to see before starting to reduce the monthly bond purchases, part of their effort to spur the recovery from the Great Recession.

More here

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Jelani Cobb: Mandela And The Politics Of Forgiveness

In 1966, Senator Robert F. Kennedy delivered a speech at the University of Cape Town. He began by stating that he was there to talk about a country settled by the Dutch, which fought a bloody war of independence, and had then become an international pariah for its treatment of black people. He allowed a tense moment to pass and then added, “I’m here tonight to talk about the United States of America.”

To an extent greater than most Americans recognize, but which Nelson Mandela understood implicitly, the United States and South Africa are products of kindred histories: both founded by settlers, both emerged from wars to overthrow British colonialism, both forged national identities on their respective frontiers. Before the election of Barack Obama allowed this country, albeit briefly, to indulge the idea of postracialism, Mandela was revered here as a proxy for the American past. His capacity to emerge from twenty-seven years in prison without bitterness broadcast the hope that this country’s own racial trespasses might be forgiven.

More here

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Haaretz: Did Obama Best Bibi’s Own Red Line?

Amidst the weeping and gnashing of teeth from the Prime Minister’s office after the interim agreement on Iran reached in Geneva, it is appropriate to pause to ask how President Obama’s interim agreement actually measures up on Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s chosen yardstick. Who can forget Netanyahu’s UN presentation last year where he made his best case to the world about the threat Iran’s nuclear program poses to international security. To vivify this danger, Bibi unveiled a graphic sketch of a bomb on which he demonstrably drew a red line.

Especially in Israel, the Prime Minister’s speech drew withering fire. Many criticized his drawing a red line in this way as a fool’s errand. Obama’s black line bests Bibi’s red line. It pushes Iran back from the line Netanyahu drew, where Iran stood on the threshold of completion of stage 2, 90% of the way to the UEU core of a bomb, to Netanyahu’s stage 1. As a result, on the path the Prime Minister identified as Iran’s fastest track to a nuclear bomb, the Geneva agreement has extended the dash time – the period between any decision by Iran to rush to a bomb and the goal line. Thus, when judged by this bottom line, Obama’s interim agreement leaves Israel and the world safer than we would otherwise be.

More here

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Jerusalem Post: Peres Says He’s Willing To Meet Rouhani: “Iran Is Not Our Enemy”

President Shimon Peres on Sunday said that he would have no problem meeting with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. “Why not?” he said in an interview with CNN’s Richard Quest at the Globes Israel Business Conference in Tel Aviv. Israel and Iran are not enemies, he said. Peres also said he believed relations with the United States had not been harmed over the Iran issue, and that US President Barack Obama remained a solid friend to Israel. He stressed the importance of using the next six months to sign a final deal that would ensure Iran would not obtain a nuclear weapon. Asked his stance on gay marriage in Israel, Peres responded that everybody was born equal and had a right to love who they wanted to love.

More here

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NYT: Thousands Demand Resignation Of Ukraine Leader

Enraged by a violent crackdown by security forces, Ukrainians took to the streets with new, revolutionary urgency on Sunday, with hundreds of thousands of protesters demanding the resignation of President Viktor F. Yanukovich and a realignment of the country away from Russia toward Europe. “I want the authorities to know that this is not a protest; this is a revolution!” Yuri V. Lutsenko, a former interior minister and an organizer of the Orange Revolution nine years ago, told a vast crowd here in Independence Square that many observers said outstripped even the biggest gatherings in 2004. “Revolution!” the crowd roared back. “Revolution!”

Eleven days of intensifying protests over Mr. Yanukovich’s refusal to sign political and free trade accords with the European Union have now directly shaken the president’s prospects of remaining in power. Cracks have begun to emerge in his political base: His chief of administration was reported to have resigned, and a few members of Parliament quit his party and decried the police violence. Many Ukrainians see the agreements with Europe as crucial steps toward a brighter economic and political future, and as a way to break free from the grip of Russia and from Ukraine’s Soviet past. Now, the outcry over Mr. Yanukovich’s abandonment of the accords is pushing Russia into a corner.

More here

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Think Progress: What Americans Can Learn From The Constitution Nelson Mandela Signed

In 2012, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg made the impolitic suggestion that “I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a Constitution in the year 2012,” instead pointing foreign constitution drafters to the constitution the late South African leader Nelson Mandela signed in 1996. Her statement received the predictable response from many conservative voices. One publication called for her to resign. The truth, however, is that the United States could learn a great deal from South Africa’s constitution.

As Ginsburg noted, that constitution was drafted much more recently than America’s 226 year-old founding text. Accordingly, its drafters benefited from more than two centuries of human experience that our founding fathers did not have. Ginsburg in no way impugned the genius of George Washington, James Madison or Alexander Hamilton when she suggested that these men could not possibility have known the things that we know today — and that nations drafting new constitutions should benefit from the full range of human experience.

More here

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Scott Keyes: Pope Francis Sneaks Out Of The Vatican At Night To Serve The Homeless

The leader of the Catholic Church has been quietly sneaking out of the Vatican at night to minister to homeless residents, according to a new report. “Swiss guards confirmed that the pope has ventured out at night, dressed as a regular priest, to meet with homeless men and women,” writes The Huffington Post. The report hinted that Pope Francis had sneaked out of the enclave with Archbishop Konrad Krajewski. As Almoner of His Holiness, Krajewski is the Vatican’s point person on giving charity to the poor and visits the destitute nightly.

This isn’t the first time Pope Francis has earned attention and praise for his predilection to serve the needy. Just months after assuming the papacy, he invited nearly 200 homeless people to join him for dinner at the Vatican. He also deplored the plight of homeless people in the first apostolic exhortation of his papacy last week: “How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?”

More here

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UPI: Colin Powell: Everyone Should Have Access To Quality Healthcare

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell told a Seattle audience universal healthcare would show the world the United States takes care of “all of our citizens.” Speaking Thursday at a fundraiser sponsored by the University of Washington School of Medicine and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Powell said he doesn’t see why the United States “can’t do what Europe is doing, what Canada is doing, what Korea is doing, what all these other places are doing.” “I am not an expert in healthcare, or Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, or however you choose to describe it,” he said, “but I do know this — I have benefited from that kind of universal healthcare in my 55 years of public life.”

More here

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On This Day:

Senator Obama and Michelle Obama with Oprah Winfrey at a rally in Des Moines, December 8, 2007

First Lady Michelle Obama meets with Emine Erdoğan, wife of the Prime Minister of Turkey, in the Yellow Oval Room of the White House, Dec. 8, 2009. (Official White House Photo by Samantha Appleton)


131 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 17 hopefruit2
    December 8, 2013 at 10:50 am

    G’morning UT, Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone and congrats GB on #1 :)

    Thanks UT for another beautiful Sunday R & S round-up. Your TOD R & S round-ups are as essential as my morning coffee!

  2. 21 desertflower
    December 8, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Good morning everyone! Congrats, GB:) Winner!!

  3. 22 vcprezofan2
    December 8, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Yo, GoBrooklyn, Great to see you speeding through the gate! Have a lovely day!

  4. 25 anniebella
    December 8, 2013 at 10:54 am

    The Pope sneaks out the Vatican at night to serve the homeless. What does that fat heartless cow Rush Limbaugh do? Who would Jesus be proud of Rush or the Pope?

    • December 8, 2013 at 2:21 pm

      Could probably make that same comparison with almost every Republican that spent the morning in church today, and spent the previous week bashing the Pope.

  5. 27 Linda
    December 8, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Fareed Zakaria just had Alan Greenspan on to tell the Fed how to handle the wind down of their stimulus.

    Excuse me, but isn’t he the one did not see the financial crisis coming after 20 years on the job ?

    • 28 desertflower
      December 8, 2013 at 11:04 am

      That would be the one! I often wonder how “such a smart guy” never saw this coming….the entire Bush Admin. seemed to be blindsided by the entire thing. Stupid idiots. All of them. Maybe they just never thought it would all catch up to them and the entire thing would be blamed on “that one”. Timing was off.

    • 29 theo67
      December 8, 2013 at 2:24 pm

      It’s a constant mystery how they call on the architects of failure to offer their “expert” advice on how to overcome the consequences of their actions – when those same experts have refused to acknowledge that they are to blame.

  6. 30 a4alice
    December 8, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Good Morning TOD! Chips I II and III! Looks like another fab post by UT but I gotta go to work – nuts! Have a great day everyone! :D BBL

  7. 31 vcprezofan2
    December 8, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Morning, Utal! That lead off picture that features our two leading couples is a ‘niiiice’ choice and a nicer touch! A lovely reminder that no crackpots made it to the top of our leading ticket! Muchas gracias for all the work you’ve provided in this post! ;) ;) Off to show my true appreciation by reading/listening. :razz:

    • 32 utaustinliberal
      December 8, 2013 at 11:05 am

      Thanks, VC. Happy reading!

      • 33 vcprezofan2
        December 8, 2013 at 11:15 am

        Utal, did I see a grin wrapped in the ‘Happy Reading’ wish? That certainty that there is no way that gal is going to catch up! :razz: You’d be right. I’m currently switching between your post, yesterday’s Archives post and Chips’ Early Bird.

  8. 34 vcprezofan2
    December 8, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Morning Chips Chica! I noticed that you led the village off to a three-ri-fic start in the ‘Early Bird’ – THANK YOU! It is nice to see all three of yourselves were/are in a terrific mood! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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    psst! You may want to tone it down before you spin out of control. Just trying to help.

    • December 8, 2013 at 11:04 am

      Morning VC, Chips I, II and III are currently unavailable, but I will pass your message on. Sincerely, Chips IV.

      • 36 vcprezofan2
        December 8, 2013 at 11:12 am

        O dear, sorry to hear the split is ongoing! Poor souls! Must be hard to keep track.

        Thank you for message delivery. Please add that I will pray for them all as there’s nothing else I CAN do.

        /smh/ Poor things!

  9. 37 vcprezofan2
    December 8, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Happy Sunday Morning, Afternoon, &/ Evening-Night, TODvillage!

  10. 38 dotster3
    December 8, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Tomorrow the U.S. Senate is scheduled to cast an historic vote to confirm Patricia Millett as judge to the D.C. Circuit Ct. of Appeals, tipping the balance of power to the Democrats for the first time in 3 decades. PBO’s other 2 nominees expected to be confirmed. But—-never fear, the Repubs have come up with some old “blue slip” procedure to block nominees to other courts, in retaliation. Leahy can remedy, if he decides to make a move and not say that ‘maybe the Repubs will be nice this time and not try to block future nominees’. Leahy, please.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-na-obama-dccourt-nominees-20131208,0,5363707.story

  11. 39 HZ
    December 8, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Good Lovely Morning Chips and TOD family. Thank you UT for a beautiful R&S.

    (((((((( To handsome Danny)))))))

    So good to see GoBrooklyn. ((((((( Lots of loving hugs.)))))))

    Our elegant First Lady is always a pleasure to behold. And our VP and Dr. Biden are lovely. What a great team we have to represent all of us.
    Blessings to both families.

    May comfort rest with President Nelson Mandela’s family, friends, and South Africa.. A beautiful soul resting in peace as he constantly worked to spread peace and freedom throughout his life.

    Enjoy your day TOD family, and always find a little time to place in your space: kindness of heart, actions of respect, and joyful thoughts.HZ

  12. 45 anniebella
    December 8, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Ted Cruz is a bold face liar and no he will not stop lying. He is just feeding his lying racists. Unemployment could be down to 4%, Ted Cruz will continue to lie and the haters would cheer for his lies.

  13. 46 carolyn
    December 8, 2013 at 11:12 am

    That first picture gives me a thrill! Never in the history of our country, have we had such a wonderful dynamic quarter leading us! Every day I am so thankful for the Obamas and the Bidens. Thank you for that beautiful picture of four beautiful from the inside out people!

  14. 47 dotster3
    December 8, 2013 at 11:20 am

    • 48 hopefruit2
      December 8, 2013 at 11:50 am

      LOL! I thought it was just we TODers who were a tad obsessed, but it appears that the media is mighty obsessed with PBO – what will they do after 2017?

      • 49 Vicki
        December 8, 2013 at 12:15 pm

        They will renew their zeal and focus on destroying the next Democratic president, whoever that may be. One trick ponies, the lot of them

  15. 50 africa
    December 8, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Morning again, everyone. Happy Sunday.

    On Mandela:

  16. 56 WilTal
    December 8, 2013 at 11:29 am

    UT, Thank you. Another chock-full of goodness R&S. Our First & Second Families have such grace and style. They are a dynamic team!

  17. 58 utaustinliberal
    December 8, 2013 at 11:34 am

    The very definition of ‘Black Don’t Crack.’ This dude is ageless and super duper nerd hot!

  18. 59 desertflower
    December 8, 2013 at 11:38 am

    “Are You Smart Enough to Be a Citizen” quiz:) http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/what-if-you-had-to-earn-american-citizenship/309398/

    You know how I love these!

  19. 60 Lovepolitics2008
    December 8, 2013 at 11:48 am

    President Obama at the Saban Forum: MASTERFUL. Vision, strength, courage, knowledge, brilliance, understanding of others, and on and on… I think one of the things that strikes me the most is the perfect balance between idealism and pragmatism.

    America has had other competent presidents. But I don’t think there has been a president like him in decades. He has that extra dose of courage that makes him push further, take calculated risks. The kind of courage that is making him a transformational president. And as I always say, he’s not an ordinary politician; he’s a true STATESMAN. I wish he could be elected for a 3rd mandate…

    And is it just me or was he more relaxed that we’ve seen him in a long time ? I don’t know if he just had had a good night’s sleep, or if it was the good news about the ACA’s enrollments, or if the spirit of Mandela had spoken to him ha ha… but seriously, there was something in his body language, as if the burden on his shoulders was less heavy than usual. I don’t know…

    • 61 hopefruit2
      December 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm

      Ditto. He may have been more rested as you say, but I also think he was just darned relieved at the kinds of questions he received, in contrast to the hostile, petty and childish line of “gotcha” accusatory and irrelevant questioning leveled at him from the WHPC, Barbara Walters or other US pundiotry.

      • 62 Lovepolitics2008
        December 8, 2013 at 3:07 pm

        Good point hope. I love how you describe the WHPC and “pundiotry”.

        President Obama doesn’t like the hypocrisy and the silliness of the political “games”; he doesn’t enjoy a political fight just for the “fighting” aspect of it, like so many traditional politicians do (Clinton comes to mind). So the level of idiocy and lack of integrity he’s dealing with must be VERY heavy on his heart and his soul sometimes.

    • 63 vcprezofan2
      December 8, 2013 at 12:12 pm

      I have just finished watching this too, and agree it was masterful. No matter how many times I tell myself I’m not going to watch an entire interview that is long and is not ‘live’, PBO always manages to rope me in. I wish someone would separate the last bit when he answers the female Isreali journalist. I thought that was such a masterfully diplomatic and respectful way to tell her that some things a president says/does in the performance of his job is ‘private’. She poses her question starting at approximately 39:00, listen then check out PBO’s answer. :cool:

      • 64 Vicki
        December 8, 2013 at 12:17 pm

        I think that female “journalist” was from Sheldon Adelson’s vanity rag.

      • 65 joyfulmeme
        December 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm

        He pushed back on his critics (Bibi, Congress, and the media) and gave a powerful argument on why he’s doing what he is doing with Iran.. I loved this venue. He was strong, direct, knowledgeable, and funny. His tone and demeanor were perfect.

        I really appreciate forums where questions are tough and substantive. I’m so sick of the daily petty crap that is brought up everyday by the WHPC. Why do they even speak to them everyday? One a week would be more than enough.

        Also, PBO been out a lot this week. I love that as well. I think he can slay the naysayers and win the debates.

  20. 66 desertflower
    December 8, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Maybe you all can fast forward through Jon Stewart on Monday’s show to get to IDRIS ELBA:) He will be Jon’s guest tomorrow!

    • 67 Vicki
      December 8, 2013 at 12:22 pm

      I’m there. Always glad to see Stringer Bell.

      SNL is as unbearable as the rest of NBC now. The skit about Rev Al bothered me because it was rude and unfunny. What is wrong with them? Oh, Comcast.
      Well let the NBC honchos do their worst. The Rev is one of the most important and powerful people in NYC right now.

  21. December 8, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    GM TOD…… I’m in the holiday spirit after last night resulting in Auburn playing for the BCS National Championship! On to Pasadena……..

    It is not often that visitors to the Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum are interrupted by the strains of Johann Sebastian Bach. Starting with a single cellist in the middle of the museum’s “Milestones of Flight” gallery and swelling to 120 musicians, the U.S. Air Force Band exhilarated museum visitors yesterday with the first flash mob to be produced by one of the five military branches’ top bands. The four-minute performance featured an original arrangement of Jesu, Joy of Man’s Desiring/Joy to the World led by the band’s commander Col. Larry H. Lang. Unsuspecting museum visitors were astonished as instrumentalists streamed into the gallery from behind airplanes and space capsules, and vocalists burst into song from the museum’s second-floor balcony.

    • 69 desertflower
      December 8, 2013 at 12:25 pm

      damn OSU. Michigan State deserved the win. Still, I’m bummed. However, I’m happy for you:)

      • December 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm

        TY, Desertflower. Very classy in defeat…. I have a hangover that is indescribable, and will be consuming the fetal position for the next 24hrs. Hope you and everyone enjoy their week ahead. The weather has descended on Indy, and I hope everyone drives safely when they meander about :)

        • 71 desertflower
          December 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm

          Sleep, dear friend:) I hate those hangovers….when your head feels separate from your body…..feel better.

    • 72 PamfromCalif
      December 8, 2013 at 4:58 pm

      Really lovely.Thank you! Sharing this all over. :o)

  22. 73 africa
    December 8, 2013 at 12:27 pm

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    December 8, 2013 at 12:31 pm

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    December 8, 2013 at 12:34 pm

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    December 8, 2013 at 12:44 pm

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    December 8, 2013 at 12:49 pm

  27. 81 Dakota
    December 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Good Morning TOD Family.

    What glorious reporting of the passing of Madiba. Thank you so much. So many wonderful photos and memories. I’ve mentioned here before that my favorite moment of the USA “Mandela Tour,” was a very emotional moment between Winnie Mandela and Betty Shabazz in Harlem. It’s so good to know that Winnie, in spite of the divorce, was embraced and loved. After all, her life was hell while Madiba was incarcerated, but she remained a freedom fighter and committed to her husband. I always say how grateful I am to be living during the Obama Presidency. I am equally grateful to be living during the time of Nelson Mandela!

  28. 82 forus50
    December 8, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Thanks UT for a fabulous R&S!!! All good stuff.

  29. 91 Allison
    December 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm

  30. 93 Allison
    December 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm

  31. December 8, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Let it Snowwwwww!!

  32. December 8, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    “That’s because, in some ways, history really did end in 1989. Authoritarian societies, even ones that are able to generate strong economic growth, deny their citizens the freedom and the dignity that Western market democracies provide. Over the past two decades, Ukrainians have suffered from inept, corrupt and occasionally brutal government. But under that ugly skin, a new, well-educated, well-traveled, comprehensively wired generation has matured. These young Ukrainians know the difference between democratic capitalism and state capitalism and they know which one they want.”

    Important perspective. Link to full article in this tweet …

    Yes We Can

    • December 8, 2013 at 3:08 pm

      Thank you for this article. I think in the coming days and months having some back history on this conflict will come in handy.

    • 109 jackiegrumbacher
      December 8, 2013 at 3:37 pm

      Bob, thank you for the link. I’m simply awed by the courage of the people in euromaiden insisting on their right to determine their own future. I can hardly imagine that either Yanukovych or Putin had any idea of what they were unleashing. Both of them operate out of an old paradigm that’s changing before our eyes.

      • December 8, 2013 at 3:48 pm

        Agree, Jackie. The authoritarian systems in Russia and China are going to come under severe stress in the next few years as President Obama’s & Pope Francis’s message of Equitable Opportunity permeates, globally. It is a message young people, world-wide, will rise to demand.

        #FORWARD Together

  33. 111 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Here they Go Again…..Using Lazy, Lame, wicked Media to Change History before Our Eyes. I was of age to understand. I don’t remember Reagan Lifting a finger.

    These people are Liars.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/baker-reagan-regretted-veto-of-sanctions-against-south-africa

    “I’m sure he did regret it,” Baker said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “In fact I’m certain that he did.”

    He said that Reagan later worked to end Apartheid in South Africa.

    “Once that happened and control of South African policy passed to the Congress, President Reagan was really determined to … meet with the black leaders of South Africa and deal with the problems of Apartheid. And he was able to do so,” Baker said

  34. 115 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Great Afternoon TODable TODers.

    Congrats GB on your Gold.

    Just a fantastic R&S UT.

    Snow and Gold weather are all around Us all.

  35. 116 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Surprise that CONservatives and their NeoCon cousins have not demanded a military intervention over in Ukraine?

    I wish folks in Kiev, Ukraine the very best.

  36. December 8, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    I love the Sprint commercials with James Earl Jones and Malcolm McDowell…they crack me up

  37. December 8, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Just had to thank @Reince ;)

    #LandslideDEMS2014

    Yes WE MUST

    • 119 Nena20409
      December 8, 2013 at 2:57 pm

      Thanks for posting these tweets Doc TODable Bobfr ;)

      Information is powerful. To know, is to learn.

    • 121 jackiegrumbacher
      December 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      Bob, I am so enjoying watching the GOP stack up enemies like so much firewood. Women, check; people of color, check. Young people, check. People who value good health care. Check. And now Catholics. Check. And if they keep talking about Medicare being unconstitutional, they can kiss seniors goodbye. Please proceed, GOP. You’re doing a heckofa job.

  38. 122 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Since the Sunday Talk riightwing leaning Shows have bashed the ACA for 8 weeks straight…..I am betting that on 12-08-13……Their Collective Tongues were Muted by their masters to offer an update on the fate of ACA? Right? Yep.

    Job number reports were No mentioned too right? Yep.

    Between Now and next year……the Media would just be pushing that Presidents Have No effect to Our Economy and they would also say that it was the TBGOPers’ restraint on the Overspending Dems that made things better. By Feb 2014, with the UE at below 7%…….the media would once again on the need to pump the TBGOPers up. We Shall Not Let Them.

    • 123 theo67
      December 8, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      It’s times like this when I wonder why the American people can’t see the difference between actual reality and what they’re being fed by the media. We went to a mall yesterday and all five levels of parking when solidly full. People were packed up in the mall, shopping like crazy. And yet, people are still being fed lies by the GOP and media that the situation is not as it actually is.

  39. 124 Linda
    December 8, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    MSNBC is replaying PBO with Tweety…

  40. 125 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    I just saw this and I went….. :shock: Wow!

    Hardly anyone in attendance at the Washington Football Game :)

  41. December 8, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    The @GOP could not be more transparent. Any pretense to ‘conservative’ is a sham. They are now the full-blown manifestation of all the evil embodied in the John Birch Society manifesto. They must be eradicated from the American system of governance.

    Yes We Can

  42. December 8, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    • 129 anniebella
      December 8, 2013 at 4:14 pm

      So McDonald can’t give their worker a raise, if they do their burgers will go from $3 dollars to $3:50. I think I will contact McDonald and tell them that I am willing to pay the extra .50 cent.

  43. 130 Nena20409
    December 8, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    These People Built the Hate and they Get surprised when their base Behave as taught for decades?

    Newt Gingrich the pioneer tactician of political personal destruction of his opponents?

    KARMA has a way of saying……Here I am?


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