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@petesouza: Pres Obama in tunnel of soccer stadium before taking stage at Nelson Mandela memorial service in South Africa

@petesouza: President Obama greets Graca Machel, Nelson Mandela’s widow, after his speech at the memorial service.


131 Responses to “Chat Away”


  1. December 10, 2013 at 6:34 pm

  2. 15 cluny
    December 10, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    lurking, lurking

  3. 17 Uche
    December 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    !st?….no almost.

  4. 18 cluny
    December 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    i delurked to get 1st but was pipped at the post. Congrats V24. And congratulations to Chips, UT and all at TOD for such superb coverage of the Mandela memorial. and how stooooopid is the ‘Michelle mad’ meme. Oy!

  5. December 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    “I believe that President Obama wants to free people of color in this country from the oppression of racism. But he knows that will only happen when we can free white people from their hate. We’re in the midst of that struggle right now. And as Madiba said “It always seems impossible until its done.”

    • December 10, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      I found you stranded in pending LL, released you in to the wild!

      • 22 vcprezofan2
        December 10, 2013 at 7:19 pm

        As I remarked above, you two have inadvertently revealed the secret of how you end up Fiiiiiiirst on each other’s threads. Thanks.

        So, O/T, how do *I* work my way into pending when a post is imminent ?

  6. 23 Vicki
    December 10, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    If anyone here is good with budgets and economics please fill the rest of us in. As I said on the last thread my take is that this is good for us but this is not an area where I have much expertise.
    TOD economists—let’s hear from you.

  7. 24 vcprezofan2
    December 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    Chipsticks. Chipsticks! How could you? You walked away and started a new thread while I was whiling away time strolling up and down the last thread waiting for you to start a new thread!

  8. December 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    So that’s what changing your email does. Odd.

    Anyway:

  9. 29 Linda
    December 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Negotiations on Capitol Hill have yielded a modest budget agreement to ease automatic spending cuts and replace some of them with savings from future-year cuts.

    Details on the pact by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray were to be announced by the duo Tuesday evening.

    The agreement would ease the harshest spending cuts set to strike the Pentagon and domestic agencies for a second year.

    It would require federal workers to contribute more to their pensions, increase premiums on companies whose pension plans are insured by the federal government and increase security fees paid by airline travelers.

    AP

  10. December 10, 2013 at 6:46 pm

  11. December 10, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Such fantastic photos of the Noble Prize festivities, Chips. And, totally consistent with his commitments to peace – which he affirmed yet again earlier today in his tribute to President Mandela – are his efforts to stop nuclear proliferation (Iran being the latest attempt) and remove chemical weapons (and their production) from Syria.

    #TrustBarack

    • 32 jacquelineoboomer
      December 10, 2013 at 6:51 pm

      Oh, I like that tweet, Bob! Your message is spot on.

    • 33 carolyn
      December 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm

      Bob…..I love your post, but the prize is the Nobel prize, not Noble. President Obama IS a noble person, but…….
      I agree: “Keep shaking hands”…..there’s been too much of clenching fists…..including us with Cuba. I believe this simple matter of shaking hands with Raul Castro will have positive repercussions down the historical road. Someone has to do it first!

      • December 10, 2013 at 6:58 pm

        Oh, Carolyn – that’s just a typo – it’s what happens when you’ve had 4 hours sleep in 2 days :) Actually have several Nobelist friends and colleagues :)

        • 35 carolyn
          December 10, 2013 at 7:08 pm

          Wow…you do…..I’m proud to call you my TOD friend! I have such respect for people who work hard and are awarded these prizes. I have been mad for four years at the U.S. Media’s reaction to PBO’s prize. He will have earned it many times over by the time his term is through.
          I do believe that handshake will have positive repercussions in the future, and maybe not too far away. The day of the clenched fist is over! Now, even Putin is going to have to learn that.
          I remember what PBO said in his inaugural, about unclenching fists and opening hands…..that’s what Raul did, and PBO responded as he said he would

          • December 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm

            “I remember what PBO said in his inaugural, about unclenching fists and opening hands…..that’s what Raul did, and PBO responded as he said he would”

            Precisely, Carolyn!!

            And, yes, from very close personal friends to professional colleagues, I’ve had the privilege to be associated with more than 2 dozen Nobelists (one of the most special friends among them, unfortunately, is no longer with us).

          • 37 vcprezofan2
            December 10, 2013 at 7:27 pm

            ‘PBO said in his inaugural, about unclenching fists and opening hands…..’

            Literally! Carolyn! I had forgotten that in the media hoopla this morning! PBO, A man of his word! :grin:

          • 38 vcprezofan2
            December 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm

            Here you go, Carolyn! I shared your reminder

  12. December 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Appears the Nina Pillard nomination to the US Appeals Court is on track for a final vote.

  13. December 10, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Can someone explain to me why Tila Tequila is still trending on Twitter? Yes, I know what she posted. That still doesn’t explain why Tila Tequila is still fucking trending on Twitter hours later.

  14. December 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm

  15. December 10, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    • 49 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2013 at 7:04 pm

      Take heart LL – Many good things happened today to go along with your cocktail. They’re just not trending on Twitter but they’re far more impactful and consequential and less silly/superficial.

      1. PBO gave a phenomenal tribute to Mandela and was most graciously received in SA and by the Mandela Family.
      2. PBO’s DC court nominee confirmed.
      3. Senate Banking Committee will not pursue new sanctions against Iran
      4. Economy continues to improve.

  16. December 10, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Mandela understood the ties that bind the human spirit. There is a word in South Africa- Ubuntu – that describes his greatest gift: his recognition that we are all bound together in ways that can be invisible to the eye; that there is a oneness to humanity; that we achieve ourselves by sharing ourselves with others, and caring for those around us. . .
    I believe that President Obama wants to free people of color in this country from the oppression of racism. But he knows that will only happen when we can free white people from their hate. We’re in the midst of that struggle right now. And as Madiba said “It always seems impossible until its done.”

    http://tinyurl.com/p287cr3

    • December 10, 2013 at 7:37 pm

      This was from Smartpants. Hope it isn’t a double post.

      • 54 vcprezofan2
        December 10, 2013 at 8:00 pm

        A triple, but who’s counting? Plus don’t they say ‘third time’s a charm’? ;) IMO the truth, CarolMae, is that lots of irrelevant negative stuff gets mentioned over and over so it’s nice to see a pertinent point repeatedly highlighted. Thanks, BTW.

  17. December 10, 2013 at 7:05 pm

  18. December 10, 2013 at 7:07 pm

  19. 65 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Just a gentle ‘minder – there will be the taping at some point this weekend of “Christmas in Washington” with the First Family to be aired on TNT on Dec 20. :) Sunday is Dec 15th, not 13th, so it’s not clear what they meant by “Sunday Dec 13th.”

    // TNT is going to ring in the holidays in musical style with its annual presentation of CHRISTMAS IN WASHINGTON, premiering Sunday, Dec. 20, at 8 p.m. (ET/PT). Mary J. Blige, Neil Diamond, Sugarland, Rob Thomas and Usher are scheduled to join host George Lopez in TNT’s spectacular holiday celebration.

    Annually attended by the President and First Lady and other Washington VIPs, CHRISTMAS IN WASHINGTON is a holiday musical celebration benefiting the National Children’s Medical Center. The show will be taped at the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C. Sunday, Dec. 13. TNT’s Dec. 20 premiere telecast will be the network’s 11th presentation of CHRISTMAS IN WASHINGTON, which is in its 28th year overall. //

    http://www.tntdrama.com/stories/story/?oid=43693

  20. 66 vcprezofan2
    December 10, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    I saw this on twitter and immediately thought of the many TOD west coasters – isn’t this beautiful, Lib-L? GGail?

  21. 74 Nena20409
    December 10, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Those Following Polls…..Rasmussen has POTUS at 47%. PEW numbers today had POTUS at 45%….same as pre-healthcare.gov glitches numbers and Quinnipiac had POTUS ate 38%.

    You see the trend now? It Up, Up and up for those 3 pollsters sucked in 2012.

  22. 75 Nena20409
    December 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    So Dick Nixon met and shook hands with Fidel Castro. Oops it’s in black and white so that was when GOP had politicians that wanted to work on solving problems?

  23. 76 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    PBO seems to think the budget is a step in the right direction.

    • December 10, 2013 at 8:12 pm

      I hope and pray that PBO has some magic up his sleeve…

      this budget does not address the needs of the Middle Class and the working poor…looming large is the loss of UE benefits for 1 million..no money for infrastructure that could create millions of jobs…

      sigh…as PBO would say …. we are better than this

      • 78 hopefruit2
        December 10, 2013 at 8:24 pm

        I don’t think this budget was intended to do the work of a jobs bill or an UI bill. This budget was to ward off any gov’t shutdown fights in the near future while funding the government in a fiscally responsible manner. The UI and infrastructure/jobs bills are probably going to be pushed as separate entities – similarly to the Immigration Reform bill.

        Furthermore, I contend that the way to best address the needs of the middle class and working poor is to VOTE in the midterms. Right now the GOP controls the house, so that should be an impetus for people to get out there and make their needs known through the ballot box in Nov 2014.

  24. December 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Senator Reid is praising Senator Murray!!!

  25. December 10, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Pillard vote will be Thursday morning at 10a.

  26. December 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Shit’s happening.

  27. 102 jacquelineoboomer
    December 10, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    We can run, but we can’t hide. Hadn’t switched MSNBC after Rev. Al’s show, as I went off to do something, and caught a bit of Chris Matthews’ audio in the background. When he got to the point where he was more or less implying that Pres. Obama had “listened” to his advice on some nonsense, I clicked the channel. I turned to CNN and creepy Jake Tapper was having a discussion on gun control. Didn’t catch the name of the mostly RWNJ dude who was his guest and who kicked in a comment that “if President Obama can shake hands with Castro … ” then apparently he can sit down with the NRA and get them to meet him halfway and we could all sing kumbaya or something. So, Michael Skolnik – love his intensity! – takes him down, nicely, saying he’s been with the President and Vice President and can see what’s in their souls and it is good (paraphrased, obviously!).

  28. 103 anniebella
    December 10, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    When the Republicans shake hands with “evil’ dictators they have no problem with it.

  29. 104 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    December 10, 2013 at 7:35 pm

  30. December 10, 2013 at 7:38 pm

  31. 110 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Great video diary of what it was like to be in the crowd at the Mandela Memorial Service today

  32. 111 desertflower
    December 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    http://pleasecutthecrap.com/handshake-be-damned-why-is-no-one-talking-about-obamas-speech/

    And what everyone missed…especially the “journalists” because they’re just too simplistic and driven by controversy rather than substance. They’re useless…

  33. December 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    When coupled with Putin’s anti-gay brutality, I agree.

  34. 116 jacquelineoboomer
    December 10, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Hope nobody’s eating, but this is funny, methinks.

  35. December 10, 2013 at 7:49 pm

  36. December 10, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Special delivery for Desertflower, from an AZ newscaster.

    Not all in AZ are batsh*t crazy.

    Too much going on in the world, still trying to catch up with today’s events. Heck, still trying to catch up with TOD from midnight last night!

  37. 128 desertflower
    December 10, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Not to change the subject, but this is a HUGE Obamacare success story! Sorry for HP, but here it is.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/obamacare-success-story-m_b_4413329.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices

  38. 130 criquet
    December 10, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    I hope this is true.


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