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Nobody’s Invincible

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Thank you for the video link UT! Back in a bit, chat away.


135 Responses to “Nobody’s Invincible”


  1. December 11, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    No way. First…… On my iPhone!

  2. 9 Roberta in MN
    December 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Saw that, it is so dared true.

  3. December 11, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Congrats on 1st pf58!!

    From the bottom of the previous thread …. really worth reading …

    “…. It soon became clear that Berkut was acting under orders to go easy on the protesters, and the resulting scuffle looked like a practice session of police units, not real action. As police broke through the first barricade, the church bells of St. Michael’s started to ring – an ancient and powerful call for alarm and mobilization.

    For hours that followed, those watching Maidan saw massive shoving between Berkut and demonstrators, and its footage was top news around the world. But what was even more striking is how quickly Kyiv mobilized and moved into the city center, turning a crowd of a few hundred into a mass of tens of thousands of people in a matter of several hours. There was a lot of dignity in it, and a lot of pride.

    This was the massive proof that EuroMaidan is not about its leaders, that it’s truly the will of the people.

    Every person taking part in it was a leader and a hero. I am talking about all those drivers who tweeted in the crazy hours of the morning that they will be ready to pick up and drive to Maidan anyone for free. It’s about a young woman with polio who came to volunteer in the kitchens of Trade Union House, cutting lemons and making tea for hours with her not fully functional hands for those people in the streets. …..”

    more at the link

  4. 15 MightyPamela
    December 11, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Except perhaps DamnyO’Chipsticks!

  5. December 11, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Howdy all my O peeps! ‘Sup on yet another great getting up day around the TOD campfire?

    It’s count down time for the big day and I still have to de-ice my roof top. I wouldn’t want the fat guy and his little sleigh to skid right off the runway. Talk to you soon.

    Be sure to not only seize the day (carpel tunnel), but remember to enjoy it as well!!!

    LOL, I made a funny. Get it? Seize the day = Carpel Tunnel!!

  6. December 11, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    But this budget deal protects three priorities that have come to be President Obama’s bottom line in these negotiations:
    1.Protect Obamacare
    2.No changes to entitlements without new revenue
    3.Sequester effects shared equally between defense and domestic programs

    **********************

    • 23 japa21
      December 11, 2013 at 3:43 pm

      Still don’t like it. It was totally a win for GOP.

      • December 11, 2013 at 3:50 pm

        ..Japa… I understand your vibe…

        stepping back to look at the deal in another way…

        I have been searching Smartypants website for an essay that she wrote about PBOs leadership style…it talked about dominance vs partnership…the concept of breaking that paradigm of seeing… you win so therefore I lose…will keep searching for this…

        also keeping in mind that PBO plays the long game…

        and finally…

        #TrustBarack

        • 25 japa21
          December 11, 2013 at 4:06 pm

          I remember when PBO agreed to extend Bush’s tax breaks on the higher earners in order to get UI extended. There was a pouring of outrage from many on the left that he caved by allowing the breaks to be extended another year. Most people here, myself included, said that that was a ridiculous response, because continuing UI benefits were criticalAnd we just knew that the GOP would never give in on UI extension standing by itself.

          Today I see many here saying UI extension can always be treated separately. Has the GOP had a change of heart?

          I agree that the “You win, I lose” type of thinking must be broken, but compromise involves each side getting something they want and each side giving on something they want. The Dems get nothing from this deal. They only avoid giving up everything the GOP would ideally like to see them give up.

          • December 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm

            They only avoid giving up everything the GOP would ideally like to see them give up.

            ************************

            and when you think about it….that is a BFD…add to that…an easing of part of the sequestration and the avoidance of another Gov shutdown which the TP/GOP were itching to do…

            as HF pointed out to me…

            WE have to be the change we seek…we have to work hard to flip the House in favor of democracy…

            WE MUST!

            • 27 japa21
              December 11, 2013 at 4:27 pm

              Actually, the avoidance of another government shutdown, assuming this goes through, is a plus for the GOP more than it is the Dems. Not that I want another government shutdown, because I don’t. And most of the sequester easing is for defense spending.

              Let me put it a different way. Somebody comes to you and says, give me $10. You come back and say what will you give me for it? The answer: nothing. So you give them $5. You can rationally say that by doing so you avoideda potentially nasty confrontation (which may or may not have occured) but you are still short $5 and the other person is ahead $5.

              I have a dealing we won’t reach an agreement on this, which is okay. I think most people know I am a strong supporter of PBO and this doesn’t change that.

              Ideally I would like to see the House Dems come out and say to Boehner and all, we will help you pass this but only after you have already passed a one year extension of the UI.

              • December 11, 2013 at 5:00 pm

                japa21, I’m with you on this one. Except I am willing to wait and see. I am NOT the hair-on-fire type. Never have been. I am patient and I trust PBO. I don’t expect to get everything. It’s too bad about the increase in pension contributions and not a dime from closing corporation loopholes. I think 2014 is the key. If we can flip the House, then we will see improvements in this nation. If not…….

          • 29 joyfulmeme
            December 11, 2013 at 4:48 pm

            Japa, the Dems haven’t given up on this. They have planted news paper articles in GOP local/state newspapers highlighting how many people in their states/cities will lose benefits. We should stay tuned.

      • December 11, 2013 at 4:10 pm

        This the essay I was looking for…

        http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2009/02/on-power.html

        Of course, in a partnership model, none of us gets all that we want – only dominators get that. Partnership is messy and difficult. Its not the black and white thinking that leads to “you’re either with us or against us.” It takes a great deal of strength to listen to people we disagree with, hold on to our principles, and try to find a way to move forward together. Are we willing to live with that?

        And finally, do we believe that the power of the people is strong enough to challenge the entrenched dominators? I don’t think we know yet and frankly, sometimes I’m scared about the kind of reaction we’ll find as we get close. But I’m willing to take a chance on it. Because for me, everything else is meaningless if democracy/partnership isn’t possible.

        this is another essay she wrote…

        http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/05/is-president-obama-leader.html

        I would posit though, that Barack Obama is the first modern day president who is attempting to utilize the power of partnership. More commonly its been civil rights, labor, anti-war movement leaders who’ve embraced that kind of leadership to bring pressure from outside the system. That’s why this quote from Michelle Obama about what her husband is doing has always fascinated me.
        Barack is not a politician first and foremost. He’s a community activist exploring the viability of politics to make change.
        In other words, he’s exploring the possibility of the power of partnership to make change from inside the system…that’s his way of providing leadership.

        In closing I’d just like to add that one of the things required by this kind of leadership is a willingness and ability to play the long game.

  7. 31 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    And besides the CNN livestream, not even CSPAN had the decency to cover the the National Cathedral Services with VP Biden today.

    • 32 Judith Fardig
      December 11, 2013 at 3:24 pm

      Parade.com actually wastes time having a poll on whether President Obama’s selfie was appropriate or not, although they do include the eye-witness report of the photographer who captured it about how it was totally taken out of context. I did the poll and left a comment because a lot of people read Parade. Grrr!

    • 36 LDS
      December 11, 2013 at 2:18 pm

      Absolutely beautiful!
      I cannot wait to go and see the movie. I know My popcorn will be soaked with tears. I am taking a bunch of teenagers with me.
      After all, it is the young people who helps bring about change in every aspect of life.

  8. 37 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    The taping of “Christmas in Washington” with President Obama/First Family etc., is this Sunday Dec 15th: The airing on TNT will be the following Friday Dec 20th.

    // This will mark TNT’s 15th year presenting Christmas in Washington, which will be taped at the National Building Museum in Washington, D.C., on Sunday, Dec. 15. The 25-time Emmy-winning team of George Stevens, Jr. and Michael Stevens are the show’s producers. The star-studded Christmas in Washington will premiere Friday, Dec. 20, at 8 p.m. (ET/PT), exclusively on TNT. //

    http://www.tntdrama.com/christmasinwashington/display/?contentId=76304

  9. 38 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    The good pup is obviously smelling that delicious birthday cake and wants a piece. And do we! Happy 70th Birthday SOS Kerry!!!!

    • 39 LDS
      December 11, 2013 at 2:24 pm

      Happy Birthday SoS John Kerry. Thank you for all the hard work that you do.
      MP, Happy Birthday to you yesterday. I got so caught up in the memorial service. I wish you many many more!

      • 40 MightyPamela
        December 11, 2013 at 4:28 pm

        Thank you LDS, I had a great day! Still dwelling on your comment about soggy popcorn above… Not so sure about that! Birthday Cake sounds better !! {{{LDS}}}

    • 41 utaustinliberal
      December 11, 2013 at 4:05 pm

      How nice.

  10. 42 jacquelineoboomer
    December 11, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Hats off to the National Cathedral and all who participated in today’s remembrance. Moving, uplifting, joyous, peaceful, solemn, well done.

    From the memorial: “Lord, make us instruments of your peace … ” “So beautiful appears my death … ” “Guide our leaders and give us peace … ”

    From Nelson Mandela: “What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead.”

  11. 47 yardarm756
    December 11, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    G’day e’eryone. I’m a bit late to the rodeo.

  12. 54 taiping1
    December 11, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    http://allreilledup.com/2012/11/validation/#.Uqi2ubu9LCR. Very moving story by a Chicago campaign volunteer, recounting the story of someone who worked with Pres. Obama as a community organizer 30 years ago and her own experience of the president coming to the campaign office the day after the election to thank all the volunteers in person. She Confirms what we at Tod know to be true. He is a good soul and one for the ages.

    • 55 Layla
      December 11, 2013 at 2:19 pm

      Oh my!!! tears rolling down my face

    • 56 Lovepolitics2008
      December 11, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      What a beautiful story. Made me very emotional.

    • 57 CEB
      December 11, 2013 at 3:01 pm

      I loved this; thank you for contributing it to the blog.
      The haters cannot understand PBO because they have never met a successful politician who means what he says, fulfills his promises, and holds to convictions that he has long held. PBO is the real deal; hopefully more and more will realize this.

    • 58 Judith Fardig
      December 11, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      LOVED LOVED LOVED this story! Thank you so much for sharing it with us, Taiping1.

    • 59 jackiegrumbacher
      December 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm

      Beautiful story taiping. Thank you so much for finding and linking it.

    • 60 donna dem 4 obama
      December 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm

      What a wonderful story…It truly does confirm the beautiful, carrying soul we know him to be.

    • 61 hopefruit2
      December 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      Thanks taiping for sharing this. It is so reassuring when you read these amazingly consistent accounts of the person PBO was before he was Senator, let alone President. :)

    • December 11, 2013 at 6:36 pm

      I couldn’t stop smiling. This really is who he is.

    • 63 globalcitizenlinda
      December 11, 2013 at 11:21 pm

      thanks a lot for sharing this story!

      wept like a baby after reading it; then re-watched the video (I am really proud of you – for the nth time);

      then made a point to send the article and video to my TL – this is the really person we know as PBO and who we love, admire and respect.

      thanks a bunch!

  13. 64 yardarm756
    December 11, 2013 at 2:15 pm
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  15. 68 Linda
    December 11, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Mitch McConnell has been talking to himself for almost an hour on the Senate floor…… ( stalling )

  16. December 11, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    I was just catching up on my websites over lunch and thus, have just learned about Ted walking out on the memorlal service. Just curious: how did anyone even know about it? I’m sure nobody even knew he was there in the nose-bleed section and nobody noticed at all when he left, so what – he had to tell us about it? Hey, guys – guess what *I* did? Geez, what a blow-hard. Imagine THAT as POTUS. **shudder**

  17. 70 Linda
    December 11, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Thanks To Obamacare, The Number Of Women Who Aren’t Charged For Birth Control Has Jumped 25 Percent

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/11/3048641/obamacare-25-percent-women-charged-birth-control/

  18. 71 Linda
    December 11, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Huffington Puss is losing tens of thousands of accounts because they now DEMAND that their members link their accounts to Facebook.

  19. 77 donna dem 4 obama
    December 11, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Hello TOD!

    I so badly wanted to get to the WH during this holiday season and my dream has come true…today I think I’ve gone to heaven!!!!

    Just received this email:

    Your attached request for an *East Wing Open House* has been confirmed for*
    Sunday, December 22, 2013 at 4:30pm.*

    Further details will be sent in a future e-mail.

    The First Family may already be gone to Hawaii by the 22nd but I’ll still get an up close and personal visit to see all the White House holiday decorations.

    • 78 yardarm756
      December 11, 2013 at 4:25 pm

      WTG. Take lots of pictures.

    • 79 hopefruit2
      December 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

      Oh my, what a blessing donna! Congratulations. I’m sure you will have a wonderful experience, and looking forward to hearing about it! I have always wished to see the WH during the holidays, so I will have to set that as a priority for next year or 2015. Something tells me that after 2016, things at the WH including the Holiday festivities won’t be quite as exciting.

    • December 11, 2013 at 4:41 pm

      Congrats Donna. Can’t wait to hear about the experience. One thing about you, you are getting as much as you can out of this historic presidency. You’re leaving a great legacy for your grandchildren. And yes, I’m envious….LOL! But so happy for you. You deserve it.

    • 81 MightyPamela
      December 11, 2013 at 5:52 pm

      {{{{{DD4O}}}}} Yes!!

    • December 11, 2013 at 6:09 pm

      WOW, a dream come true!!!! I’m so jealous!!

  20. 83 yardarm756
    December 11, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    In my neck of the woods.

  21. December 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm
  22. 85 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Images like this the media won’t want you to see….

  23. 86 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Oh here comes Jake Tapper to tell us what this media hysteria over the selfie is really about….

    • 87 Layla
      December 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      Calling AMK and BOB!!!!!

    • 89 Linda
      December 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm

      I saw that ….Jake was leading him to say that……..Jake is a snake………..

      Yesterday he filled in at 7 PM and every guest that was on he tried to manipulate them to bad mouth PBO over the handshake …..Aaron Shock…who went to the memorial was having none of it and basically told Jake he was not going to fall for it……

      I called Shock’s office this morning and told them I saw what Jake was trying to do and thanked them for not falling for it.

    • 90 Nena20409
      December 11, 2013 at 5:26 pm

      As of Dec 2013, in 4.10yrs of his presidency, PBO had 617 interviews with Local TV & Print Journos, National TV and Cablers, Websites, etc.

      In 8 yrs GW did 212 and in 8yrs Clinton did 191.

      Jake Tapper but get his MOUTH Tapered.

    • 91 anniebella
      December 11, 2013 at 7:31 pm

      How much access do these idiots want? The selfie is not a big deal to the common sense folks. I know people who was asking what the heck is the big deal?

  24. 92 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    I hope you all realize that the media’s intense focus on everything “negative” about the Mandela Memorial (including the so-called fake sign language interpreter) is all about discrediting the event, the widespread positive reception given to PBO, etc. Basically, the media is trying to push a narrative that the event was so incompetently planned, or so dishonestly executed, that nothing there is to believed – including the roars from the crowd when PBO & FLOTUS entered the stadium, or the roars and cheers when PBO got up to speak.

    I’m just letting people know what it is really about. I’ve seen this movie before.

    • 93 jackiegrumbacher
      December 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm

      Right on, HF. We not buying what they’re trying to sell. They couldn’t control the event in SA so they’re trying (and failing) to control people’s perception of it.

    • 94 Lovepolitics2008
      December 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm

      With all due respect, Hope, I disagree a bit. I think you’re going too far. What I see is a bunch of snobs who have CONTEMPT for South Africa. They consider them underdeveloped, a banana republic, etc… They’re simply having a good time mocking everything about the event. That they can divert the attention from the warm reception given to President Obama and from the MASTERFUL speech he delivered is a big bonus, but not the whole focus.

      They are a bunch of privileged, “know-it-all”, short-sided, shallow folks, who don’t have any real interest in what’s going on outside America. Outside Washington to be more specific. Mediocre minds. Closed minds. They’ll give praise to Nelson Mandela because it’s the “cool” thing to do. They probably admire the man, superficially. But they don’t really GET it. They’re not really touched in their hearts and their souls. They don’t GET the historic impact, the SPIRITUAL impact Mandela will have for centuries. NO WONDER they were not moved by the President’s speech. They don’t function at that level of consciousness.

      • December 11, 2013 at 5:31 pm

        A-a-a-a-men! Same thing occurred in 2008- it was the cool thing to do. America greatly self-congratulatory for finally elected a black man, fronting for all the world, never had any good will for his success. It was a momentary thing for them. We have a bounty of proof to this effect.

      • 96 hopefruit2
        December 11, 2013 at 5:31 pm

        I think you and I are converging on the same idea – I’m just linking it slightly differently, because ultimately, I believe that the MSM’s goal is to portray PBO as incompetent.

        “What I see is a bunch of snobs who have CONTEMPT for South Africa. They consider them underdeveloped, a banana republic, etc… They’re simply having a good time mocking everything about the event.”

        That’s part of it right there – that BECAUSE South Africa is such an underdeveloped, primitive country with poor planning skills and “criminals” even their *love/respect* for President Obama must be viewed in that same light.

      • 98 99ts
        December 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm

        Perfectly said – the memorial service was different, I found it an absolute delight – the people celebrated Mandela – and why would anyone think they should do otherwise – Mandela was their MLK – who despite what was done to him – lived to stop being a martyr and became their President. He did what the white privileged in the US cannot do and cannot understand – he invited the “others” to be part of his world, to see and understand his people. He came in love not hate, peace not war, to mend his country and free his people.

        The folks at the memorial were not going to sit down, shut up and listen as the US press and their sycophantic followers think is a way to attend a memorial. The world leaders there – perhaps a little dazed by the lack of formality – quickly did the same thing. Did the US media report on Clinton & Bush wondering around, chatting, laughing & taking little interest in any of the speakers? Of course not. Did they report on the joy of the singing, dancing, chanting in love and memory of Mandela that went on for hours. Of course not.

        Initially I thought this would be different to any other trip of PBO – because of the event I really thought the press would report on what was happening in South Africa – but no – their small minded – never ending view of the world – we are the USA – no-one else exists – and lets find anything that the GOP can use to hate on the President. That is all they have done for 5 years.

        • 99 hopefruit2
          December 11, 2013 at 6:29 pm

          I think the US press was taken aback by the intense outpouring of love and respect shown for our President at that event, and by how well received his speech was – and that’s why the media narrative seemed to have shifted suddenly after PBO’s speech was completed. If you noticed, prior to the memorial, the media was all lovey-dovey, praising Mandela, talking about his example of forgiveness and reconciliation, showing the South Africans celebrating/mourning, etc.

          After the memorial, the media narrative took a 180. It’s almost as if the MSM was seeking revenge for PBO being shown in a positive light, even relative to the other heads of state who were present, like former US Presidents who shall remain nameless at the moment. The combination of PBO’s powerful speech and the fantastic reception he got from the crowd simply did not sit well with some in the US media.

          • 100 99ts
            December 11, 2013 at 6:44 pm

            The Press really think they have the only view of PBO that exists. Why on earth they would be taken aback by an African country showing love and respect for the first AA President of the USA is beyond sanity. They have shown through the past 5 years how wrong they are about ANYTHING related to President Obama – I guess I have to accept this will never change.

            I truly thought the service for Mandela was way beyond any service “to celebrate a life” I have ever seen/heard. It showed for the world the greatness of the man, it brought together a mix of world leaders – never seen together before – to celebrate this man of peace.

            And the US press fixates on a handshake and a photgraph.

            • 101 hopefruit2
              December 11, 2013 at 7:02 pm

              “Why on earth they would be taken aback by an African country showing love and respect for the first AA President of the USA is beyond sanity.”

              PBO is almost universally loved/respected – even in majority white countries across Europe and elsewhere (e.g. Canada). The South Africans at that memorial were not respectful of PBO simply because he’s black – they show respect for him because of WHO he is, not what he looks like. They did not show that kind of respect for Zuma, their own Black President – in fact quite the opposite. Yet they showed a lot of respect for the Master of Ceremony, Cyril Ramaphosa. South Africans are a very discerning people.

              And that’s what the US media was probably even more upset about – that they couldn’t simply make blanket racial attributions to the positive reception for PBO. When PBO spoke the crowd was listening and responding to his words, not to his skin color or ethnic background.

              • 102 anniebella
                December 11, 2013 at 7:36 pm

                Remember POTUS, FLOTUS and the girls were in Africa in June and they received a wonderful welcome, I thought. So the media should not have been surprise by their welcome in SA.

                • 103 hopefruit2
                  December 11, 2013 at 7:44 pm

                  The media barely covered that trip in June. If it weren’t for TOD, we would barely know what was going on. Most Americans knew very little about that trip except the garbage fed to them by the media. And if you recall, zizi had to post some threads specifically challenging the false media narrative about PBO’s trip being a silly waste of taxpayer dollars.

                  But this time around it was difficult to “black out” – especially since they had already given so much coverage to Mandela, his life, death, etc, and since other heads of state were attending.

          • 104 Puddin'
            December 11, 2013 at 9:07 pm

            “The combination of PBO’s powerful speech and the fantastic reception he got from the crowd simply did not sit well with some in the US media”…didn’t sit well indeed. I will include other folks beyond the “US media”…all the people whose heart, body and soul is infected with hate.

    • 105 Vicki
      December 11, 2013 at 5:37 pm

      I’m with you, HF, on this one. No surprise as I usually see things in much the same way you do.
      BBC’s effort to discredit was showing the empty seats at the Memorial.

      • 106 carolyn
        December 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm

        “They are a bunch of privileged, short-sighted, know-it-all, narrow folks” Yes….I was disgusted that they could not focus on the importance to South Africa and the world, but focus only on their narrow domestic silliness. They are arrogant and contemptuous of anyone not of their group. And yes, for a brief moment in 2008, they were so PROUD of themselves and the country for electing this African-American man that they positively gloated….”Look how good and generous we are.” But when it came to the actual work of governing, they really thought someone who doesn’t look like them couldn’t do it.
        Everyone of them should be fired after yesterday. They were more of an international embarrassment than ever. Our president has worked so hard to regain our standing after eight years of the GWB nightmare and public humiliation, and they step all over it. THEY are the problem. I hope more and more people see it.
        HOW do we get them to see themselves as we know they are?????

    • 107 nathkatun7
      December 11, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      Brava, Hopefruit2! As always, you commentary is spot-on! I deeply appreciate the way you dissect the unethical media to expose their rotten schemes.

    • 108 Puddin'
      December 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm

      The truth will set folks free…even the ones who can’t handle the truth…it is what it is, period!

  25. 109 Linda
    December 11, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    I have always called this man ” Loose Lips Leon ” here is proof

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Newly declassified documents show Tuesday that former CIA Director Leon Panetta revealed secret information to “Zero Dark Thirty” scriptwriter Mark Boal when Panetta gave a speech at CIA headquarters marking the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

    Panetta said through a spokesman that he didn’t know Boal was in the room.

    Judicial Watch filed a request for the more than 200 pages of documents, which the CIA released Tuesday. The documents concerned the internal investigation of its role in the film about the bin Laden raid.

    “I had no idea that individual was in the audience,” Panetta said in a statement. “To this day, I wouldn’t know him if he walked into the room.” Panetta spokesman Jeremy Bash said Panetta assumed everyone in the audience had the proper clearance to hear the speech.

    The documents refer to Panetta revealing the name of the ground commander of the unit that carried out the raid.

    —–

    Since he retired…..it seems the leaks have stopped, doesn’t it ?

    • 110 Lovepolitics2008
      December 11, 2013 at 5:43 pm

      Let’s remember that President Obama has a lot of opponents/enemies within the military-intelligence complex. There are many factions within those organisations.

      So, Leon Panetta isn’t necessary dishonest. Maybe things happened because he was an outsider who couldn’t prevent the enemies of the administration from playing some dirty games. You can’t enter CIA headquarters “just like that”. WHO helped Mark Boal get in a CLASSIFIED briefing ?

      I suspect the leaks have stopped because nobody can fool John Brennan; he’s been in the CIA and knows everybody. I’m pretty sure he has better control over the organization.

      Remember, John Brennan was the FIRST choice of President Obama to head the CIA. The “emoprogs” went into hysteria mode and the president had to nominate someone else. Brennan was supposedly evil because … torture. In fact, he wasn’t directly implicated, and probably made the choice of staying to mitigate the damage. I don’t know if I would agree with everything he did or does, but from what I’ve seen and heard of him, he’s one of the good guys.

  26. December 11, 2013 at 5:15 pm
  27. December 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    • 113 Nena20409
      December 11, 2013 at 5:30 pm

      This is why who controls the House of Reps matter.

      From 1981- Jan 1987, Reagan had the Senate, Not the House.

      From Jan 1995- Jan 2007, GOPers controlled the House. And From Jan 2011 to Now with John Boehner controlling the House of Rep……the problems continue.

  28. 114 JER
    December 11, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    LIVE NOW: Vice President Biden Speaks at the 12th Annual George McGovern Leadership Award Ceremony of World Food Program USA
    Audio Only – http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

  29. 117 Nena20409
    December 11, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    photo/1

  30. 120 Vicki
    December 11, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    Rachel Maddow is now on staff at Washington Post. First column coming soon.
    Any questions?

  31. 129 desertflower
    December 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    BREAKING: Cooling system fails on International Space Station, NASA says; astronauts safe

    I hope they fix it soon and they’re all ok

  32. 131 hopefruit2
    December 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    If you are still doubting what I said earlier about the US media’s agenda: Tonight, ABC “world” news included consecutive stories about the sign language interpreter and the Selfie photo. Nothing more about the Mandela memorial or current events in SA, like the public viewing and procession. During the report about the “selfie” they kept showing that one Selfie photo throughout the entire commentary and refused to show other photos (which are widely available) with FLOTUS smiling and interacting with the others.

    • 132 anniebella
      December 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm

      I have long given up on ABC, NBC, CBS, all of them. What is it about the sign language interpreter? What is being said about that? It’s seem that it is no longer just attack POTUS, it’s going after FLOTUS time. Recently it was that Michelle Cottle’s article about FLOTUS being a feminists nightmare,,they were crazy with Sunny the dog attacking the little girl.

    • 134 nathkatun7
      December 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm

      Hopefruit, I agree with you 100%! I even a step further than you. I am absolutely convinced that the vast majority of the people in the U.S. media have visceral hatred of President Obama. What they are doing to President Obama is because of laziness, ignorance of being spoiled They are deliberately doing everything in their power to denigrate and diminish his presidency! I think at one time, David Gregory unwittingly spilled the beans about the beltway media’s hatred of President Obama.Thank God for the social media, and especially the fearless twitters ilk you, Bobfr, UT, AMK, JOB, Chips, Japa, and others, the so called MSM have not been able to fully accomplish their goals.


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