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Very nice. :)
vc didn’t see you coming hf :) wtg
Yup I noticed. Thanks!
Congrats on 1st hf …. and OG for the tie! :)
Peace to all
And to all a ‘Good Night’. :grin: Couldn’t resist, thought I’m not quite ready to go to best just yet.
Rest well VC :)
:lol: :lol: TY
Not in any way to diminish from Madiba’s funeral, but truly to honor it. I think he’d be thrilled to know that at almost 530a in Kyiv the passion for freedom, dignity and respect is pulsating in the #euromaidan …
We did it again Bob – got a new thread just as we were posting on the old one. Glad to share the honor :) :) – again.
Yes, I’m certain that Madiba would very much support this and be inspired by it!
IN_DEED, hf :)
The media seem to be trying to ignore this huge public outcry. AJA, Guardian are downplaying barely mentioning Ukraine. Powerful big money interests must be threatened. Which side could John McCain possibly be on?
I remember him flying into Georgia in 2008 to no apparent good purpose then either.
What happens next to these brave people?
“What happens next to these brave people?”
They’ll determine their destiny because they know no one else is going to do it for them, Vicki.
Same applies to every American – 4 Nov 2014 will indicate just how many of us get that fact.
Do hope all of you see the art ‘credit’ at the end of Sully’s comment on Ms White Victim, 2013, Megyn Kelly (link in tweet) ….
Dear @MegynKelly I urged you to consider geography & anthropology your friends. You flunked both & then played victim dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/12/14/meg…— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) December 15, 2013
That art credit was pretty amazing, wasn’t it, Bob?
Chips – Thank you so very much for this livestream link. You help us never miss the important things, around the globe. I will try to stay awake to see it.
I had to applaud Sully on that one. Not many folk are aware of the Fuhrer’s ‘artistic talent.’
If only he had had the courage to knock on the door of Alfred Roller and pursued an apprenticeship with him!! If only ….
Yeah Bob, as Chips and 99ts advised on the last thread, I’d stay away from Sullivan. His opinions and writings on race, intelligence and African-Americans is abominable to say the least. He uses race to justify his warped theory that Whites are more intelligent and Blacks are inferior.
He’s written some very disgusting racist stuff about minorities; especially African-Americans.
Am fully aware of all of that UT. That’s not the point I was making. Thank you.
Playing catch up, but I think I’m the one responsible for bringing Sully here … got carried away with the incredulous proof that Hitler and people who speak offhandedly like the likes of Megyn Kelly are somehow connected in their thinking, although she wouldn’t know that … I had also put Sully out of my mind and had forgotten why! I apologize.
Don’t know why you need to apologize, Jacqueline. The deep irony that it was Sully who took down Ms White Victim of 2013, Megyn Kelly, with the young Fuhrer’s very white Jesus and Mary, is something to be leveraged as comprehensively as possible.
Bob – I like to live on the edge (my version), so if both perspectives have graciously told me not to worry/apologize, then I find I’m in the sorry/not sorry stage … because I can see both points! (And your leveraging comprehensively idea nailed that point for me.) Can ya tell I’m a Libra?
I despise Sully. That’s why I found it so delicious to use him to take down Ms White Victim, 2013 :)
Sullivan supports gay people and the catholic religion. Megyn spoke incorrectly of Jesus – that is what Sully no doubt went for. (I haven’t read his article, just saw the religious picture under his heading and left). If she (Megyn) had stayed with white Santa – Sullivan would not have said anything. I appreciate that your link made clear the web address so I did not go there. I clicked on JoB’s cause twitter had hidden where it was from.
I only commented because I like to know where I am going before I click – I love 99.9% of JoB’s links so was not expecting Sullivan.
Not to worry Miss J’OB. I personally, just stay away from Sully. Once he showed what he thought of African-Americans and ever since he went private on his new link, he’s been able to spew bile to his heart’s content.
One would think as a gay person, he’d know what it’s like to be persecuted or condemned by a bunch of bigots for being who you are
One someone has shown me their true colors, I stay away from that person and don’t promote any of their work.
But not to worry, Miss J’OB, I know you meant no harm. :D
Thanks, UT. :)
I accept other peoples views JoB (love most of yours) – I just like to recognize the link so I don’t go there – Bob’s was very clear, so I didn’t click – when twitter shortens things the source is often hidden.
Thanks, 99ts. I’ll try to remember that.
No worries at all – it seems everyone understands – that is what is so nice about TOD
When I see posts from you and Chips – sometimes my brain does a tiz & I think I am talking to PBO and the VP – now that is weird – and I haven’t had a drink yet today – might be about time
Over 100 people outside the #NRA headquarters this morning pushing for stronger gun laws. #1YearAgo #WeAreNewtown http://t.co/NSNYjNLN7c— Andrew Patrick (@Andrew_Patrick) December 14, 2013
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free markets=401K wipeout in '08
work ethic=gop cong critters
#asshat— (@amk4obama) December 15, 2013
I don’t know why McCain fashions himself a diplomat or negotiator. He has admitted in his books that he has a fiery temper. And to my knowledge has never done anything on his little trips overseas to areas of conflict other than international gaffes. I’m sure POTUS is hoping he doesn’t make matters worse. Personally, I don’t think any Senator or Rep of any party should do this type of trip without approval of the State Department. https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/412064166803824642
He has done nothing positive – but on the negative – he increases the world view that the US is a nation of war. He wastes the time of people looking for real solutions to their problems and he promotes political views that the majority of the US are against.
The media should concentrate on how long it has been since McCain has spent a night with his wife.
It’s just shocking that our TMZ/Buzzfeed/CNN infotainment newshounds don’t consider that John and Cindy not sharing the same residence (between their 7 houses!) is not a perfect headline news matter lol.
But if Michelle Obama is not smiling – the Obama marriage is over
.What is so sad is how low the media have sunk. You used to expect trash from the tabloids, but now you get it from CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC. These networks has become no better then Fox news. Meaning they will make up lies, and call it facts. These media people do not like our President.
He’s a wretched old man chasing the next photo op … and plenty of folk, Ukrainian and otherwise, have been dissing him big-time for his latest stunt in Kyiv.
You are so right Bob but I didn’t know they were dissing him. Good for them – they aren’t fools to this faux politician.
Lots of tweets showing no love or respect for bomb, bomb, bomb, … wherever, McCain.
Never mind my comment upthread. You guys have answered my ??? re: John McCain
Pleased to hear that Bobfr – thanks for the comment
Natl Memo » As The GOP Civil War Goes Public, The Tea Party Has Never Been Less Popular: nationalmemo.com/as-the-gop-civ… http://t.co/q9gKrJvey2— Sean Bond (@iam_seanbond) December 14, 2013
Soon, all that crop of “Mad Hatters” in the Tea Party will be gone and we can have a little party of our own.
Looks like something is happening on the livestream. Plane coming in for landing.
Words to remember from Nelson Mandela http://t.co/xpiQWEpoDT— RC deWinter (@RCdeWinter) December 14, 2013
Oooh I just realized that CSPAN One TV will be carrying the funeral live from 12:30AM. I’m off to set my DVR! :)
Unfortunately, it is an excerpt of the Tuesday’s service.
Oh really? How annoying… :( Thanks for letting me know.
Well, it’s official: I have a fever. Sighs. Time for urgent care tomorrow.
Fever? More than a cold then! Urgent care is right plan…..you don’t want a severe case of influenza…..Take care and tonight force the liquids………We don’t want you down for an extended time!
And the thing which just annoys me is that I had a flu shot. I’ve been sold a bill of goods, I tell you.
Are you sure you shouldn’t get checked this evening, LL?
BTW, provided some updates on Ukraine for you, a couple of threads back.
Oh, probably, but there’s no way I’m getting in my car right now. It’ll keep until tomorrow.
LL, if it exceeds 101, get someone to drive you, ok?
Thank you, friend. Want you to be ok. That’s my top priority.
Ok all, dinner’s been eaten, bed is calling, BBC World is on my tv, and Madiba’s funeral will sing me to sleep. See everyone on the flip.
Oh, I’m already tearing up with this grand final tribute for Nelson Mandela.
The pageantry for such a great man against the simple background of the site is phenomenal.
I’ve never seen a military event in the hot sun in my experience in this country, without seeing one of the military keel over in a faint. Hope it doesn’t happen here – I’m worrying like their grandma!
bbl … time to prepare some dinner …. take care dear friends, we have many challenges ahead and we have the spirit of Madiba, the memories of those Sandy Hook victims (and many others), and the extraordinary privilege to have President Obama to motivate us to move #FORWARD Together.
And then you win
Historic moment: John Kerry returns to Mekong River 1st time since Swift boat/Vietnam war; now top diplomat for US http://t.co/wNzL6dPdUW— Indira Lakshmanan (@Indira_L) December 15, 2013
What thoughts he must have – impossible for most to even get close
OMG I finally saw a “get covered” ad for Illinois on NBC during SNL. About time they get with the program. A HUGE Dem state for POTUS without a state exchange is just shameful so the LEAST they can do is spend some of the fed money on ads.
I saw a bcbs ad for aca on regular cable today, IL specific so I assume it’s state-specific. Yea!
LL: take some Bayer aspirin; best thing for a fever and sore throat, plus stay hydrated!
amen! Aspirin is still the best. I have a reaction now due to adault asthma issues, but aspirin is still the best. make sure you have something in your stomach. Thecbest.
CNN International will carry service live at 1:00 am est.
Think I just spotted Richard Branson there … he’s a close friend of Archbishop Tutu, I believe.
Prince Charles is doing a good job representing.
And I believe the Prince of Monaco is there, although I’m too tired to remember his name. Maybe Albert. Wish this were being shown on U.S. TV, so I could DVR it.
How Elegant is this march
Now feeling sad! These are the final moments
CNN is now carrying it – of course they’re talking over the ceremony…
How many miles have they walked….
Contrast with the hills is very pongiant
Oprah and Stedman
I’m watching BBC – the truth that his life is over can no longer be put aside. I am glad I lived in his times
bbc has a good coverage.
I’m watching there – I am charmed by this man now speaking – No 2 in the ANC – does he have a political future? He sounds as he could carry on for Mandela
I like him a lot too.
This is such a glorious familial, national, religious, and cultural ceremony. But its simplicity is the real key to why it is so beautiful to watch from afar, and I really wish I were in attendance. These people have come here – and we are all watching – because of one man who started life in simple surroundings, but had the spirit in him to move mountains. The only real tragedy is that Nelson Mandela was separated from his family and culture and life’s work for those 27 years, but nothing could kill his spirit and he went on to even greater things, which left an impact on the world. I’m not meaning to turn religious myself, although I believe he’s certainly in a better place with the angels, and I certainly would not liken this man of earth to Jesus, but I am thinking of the poem “One Solitary Life,” as I go off now to watch this quietly. Rest in peace, Nelson Mandela, even though everyone’s having a terrible time letting you go.
One Solitary Life: http://www.catholicgarden.com/one.html
“These people have come here – and we are all watching – because of one man who started life in simple surroundings, but had the spirit in him to move mountains. The only real tragedy is that Nelson Mandela was separated from his family and culture and life’s work for those 27 years, but nothing could kill his spirit and he went on to even greater things, which left an impact on the world.”
Beautiful tribute, Jacqueline!
Here is printed program:
President Mandela's Funeral Program: mandela.gov.za/funeral/funera… #MandelaFuneral— Alycee (@jazziz2) December 15, 2013
@cnni STOP JAWJACKING and let us hear the funeral service! Show some RESPECT! #MandelaFuneral— Alycee (@jazziz2) December 15, 2013
It is quite moving to be listening, in real time, to this tribute to President Nelson Mandela.
How wonderful that Oprah attended!
“He has joined the A Team of the ANC …” what a powerful image!
Hope all of you will have the opportunity to listen to a recorded version of this celebration of the life of President Nelson Mandela.
One of the finest tributes to President Mandela – and all of South Africa, the African Continent, and humanity – was delivered by the President of Malawi, Joyce Banda!!!
Do try to listen to it!!
Urge all of you to read the article linked in this tweet ….
Timothy Snyder in NYRblog – insightful as ever. #euromaidan Ukraine: Putin’s Denial nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/… via @nybooks— David L. Stern (@loydstern) December 15, 2013
Good Morning Everyone.
Hope you all had a good night.
Morning early birds!
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