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Early Bird Chat

On This Day: President Obama paints a quotation attributed to civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr during a day of service in King’s honor at the Browne Education Campus school in Washington, January 16, 2012

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MoooOOOooorning Early Birds!


118 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    January 16, 2014 at 7:08 am

    Good Morning/Evening, everyone!

    • 2 vcprezofan2
      January 16, 2014 at 7:09 am

      Sorry Cindy. I lengthened the greeting to allow you through, but ….

      • 3 Cindy
        January 16, 2014 at 7:19 am

        I knew I should have kept my eyes on you….I knew that you were just waiting to cross the line….

        Did you say it yet? I am 1st : O , go ahead and shout it.

        I have to figure this thing out to keep you out of the race. : )

        • 4 vcprezofan2
          January 16, 2014 at 7:30 am

          FTR: / said in a spirit of great humility and with the intent to share/mentor / Cindy, my dear, when you are practically, legally, morally, and obviously first, you really don’t need to say it.

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:11 am

      You’re drippin’ in gold VC, moooooooorning!! Mooooorning everyone!

      • 6 vcprezofan2
        January 16, 2014 at 7:14 am

        Good MooooRRRrrnnning, to yooouuuuu, Ms Chips! You are like red gold these days, so hard to get ahold of. ;)
        Please tell Danny ‘how-de-do’ for me, and not to be so busy socks hunting that he cannot take a moment to say ‘hi’.

  2. 7 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 7:10 am

    Congrats VC.

    Happy Thursday TODers.

    Hello Chips!!

  3. January 16, 2014 at 7:12 am

    Good morning everyone!

  4. 12 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 7:19 am

    Obamacare on the move with basketballers Magic and Mourning.

  5. 14 99ts
    January 16, 2014 at 7:22 am

    Good morning everyone – I have a question – totally unrelated to politics – I guess it is a question from a dumb aussie about US
    I am researching a family in Pennsylvania in the 19th century.

    In the 1850 US census – the father of a very large family gave his occupation as “Teamster” – I have heard the term in relation to a union – but what is a teamster – what work did he do?

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:25 am

      Moooooorning 99ts!

      Was a teamster usually a truck driver? Any experts here?

      • 16 99ts
        January 16, 2014 at 7:29 am

        I heard the term teamsters’ union in relation to truck drivers – I think – but just found it strange that teamster was the occupation. I would have expected “truck driver”. Maybe he just loved the union (smart guy).

        In later years he was a “shipper of coal” and a “Foreman at the canal docks” – so not alot of help – although transport related.

        • January 16, 2014 at 7:34 am

          Ooooh, I love this kind of historical detective work! I often thought about looking in to my family history, but I just know it wouldn’t be very exciting – eg Great Great Great Grandfather: ‘Grew potatoes, ate potatoes, slept.’ :???:

          • 18 99ts
            January 16, 2014 at 7:42 am

            Aha – Irish – most with English forbears can look at gggg grandfather who worked as an ag lab (agricultural labourer) from age 7 to whenever he died. They all had so many children – their only hobby/recreation was rather easy to determine.

            Within it all, however there are some amazing stories – the courage to emigrate to the new world being towards the forefront – however my favorite distant relative is the one who worked as a groom – in Queen Victoria’s stables. He was promoted to head groom & died on the job aged 82. Received a right royal funeral attended by lots of very important people. My brush with royalty :) :)

          • 19 99ts
            January 16, 2014 at 7:51 am

            I should have mentioned – it’s really hard to trace the Irish – they hated the government (with good cause) more than any GOP member of congress could ever imagine – and seemed to indicate same by filling in every government form with a different story about their past. I have an Irish ggg grandfather who teleported himself from Ireland to Australia – and gave a different place of birth on every piece of information he gave – that survived into current times.

            • January 16, 2014 at 7:57 am

              Ah, that’s hilarious 99ts!! I think one of the biggest problems too is that so many records were lost when buildings storing them were burnt down during the civil war, so much history was lost. Passenger lists for emigrant ships seem to be one of the better sources, but, of course, the tricky part is tracing the people after they arrived at their destination.

              • 21 99ts
                January 16, 2014 at 8:12 am

                Rich folks paid for cabins (1st class) when emigrating – and were given good place on the shipping lists and in the newspapers. Poor folks travelled steerage (like about 6th class) and were often on the shipping lists as “300 in steerage”. (Probably similar conditions to the Arpaio prisons)

                My Scottish ggg grandfather travelled steerage – because – well he is a Scotsman – money – but he wrote home after the trip and told his brothers if they were intending to join him – it could be worthwhile to pay for a cabin.

                The Ireland census records were destroyed in the 1922 fires – and the catholic church was not keen on releasing parish records – both giving problems to people trying to trace their Irish roots. If you are a US President – there are lots of people doing the research – potato growers – not so much :)

        • January 16, 2014 at 7:55 am

          99ts, in the 1850’s, a “truck” driver would have driven a team of horses to deliver goods, in this man’s case, probably coal. Since that driver would also have had to care for the horses as well as make sure they operated well as a “team,” I think that’s why he was called a teamster. The later unions, who drove trucks, kept the name because the profession was the same–delivering goods. It’s possible the person you’re researching started out delivering coal from the canal boats to their destination and later assumed a bigger role in the coal shipment business, finally becoming a “foreman” of the delivery process. We have a park in our county that used to be a canal area, so canals did operate in PA and there sure was a lot of coal.

          • 25 99ts
            January 16, 2014 at 8:03 am

            Thank you Jackie – funny how I can’t help equating my own knowledge – thinking it would be timber – when coal is much more likely. I don’t think I have enough years left to study all your states – so far I have found family in Wisconsin, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio – a few moved to Georgia. I think there are many families where siblings emigrated but they went to different places – Australia, NZ, Canada and the US. A few also went to Africa – but that was not so common in my families.

    • 26 donna dem 4 obama
      January 16, 2014 at 7:26 am

      From Wikipedia:

      Originally, the term “teamster” referred to a person who drove a team of draft animals, usually a wagon drawn by oxen, horses, or mules.[1] This term was common by the time of the Mexican-American War (1848) and the Indian Wars throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries on the American frontier.

      A teamster might also drive pack animals, such as a muletrain, in which case he was also known as a muleteer or muleskinner. Another name for the occupation was bullwhacker, related to driving oxen. Today this person may be called an outfitter or packer.[2] In Australian English, a teamster was also known as a bullocker or bullocky.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teamster

      • January 16, 2014 at 7:27 am

        Ah, that’s where the name comes from? Never thought to look it up, but always wondered! Thanks Donna.

      • 28 99ts
        January 16, 2014 at 7:33 am

        Ooooh – thank you Donna – why did I not think to look up the wiki – sigh – that was somewhat unexpected – but I guess there weren’t many trucks around in 1850 :) Perhaps pulling timber to the docks – There were many of my Oz ancestors who used rivers to transport logs 1850-1920

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:46 am

      99t here is a google link on the use of the term teamster during your timeframe: http://teamstersarchives.gwu.edu/node/10

      • 30 99ts
        January 16, 2014 at 7:56 am

        Thank you ranman – so 1850 the draymen are getting organized (in San Francisco). My guy probably had to accept whatever the boss wanted to pay.

  6. January 16, 2014 at 7:24 am

    Good Morning Chipsticks, VC (Congrats on first :-) ), Cindy, FayPax, Africa, 99ts…TOD Early Birds!

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

  7. January 16, 2014 at 7:33 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and the TOD family. I hope everyone is doing well. Congrats VC on being first. I see that the store owner didn’t declare “first customer status” when they open the door. :D :D

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:35 am

      Goooooood mooooooorning Ranman!!

      • January 16, 2014 at 7:37 am

        How are you Ms. Chips as well as Danny?

        • January 16, 2014 at 7:43 am

          I’m doing fine Ranman, thank you! And Danny is thriving – although he’s snoring loudly as we speak. Hope all’s great with you!

          • 39 taiping1
            January 16, 2014 at 9:14 am

            Photos of Danny? He must be growing quickly with your loving care (food)!
            Morning all!
            Because the media never really wanted to grasp the passion of the millions of individuals organizing, networking and donating to PBO in 2008 and 2012 I think they operate in a media bubble that anyone could be a viable candidate. I am greatly offended by the notion that a small mainly white state governor such as Schweitzer with no gravitas or depth of understanding of foreign affairs or even of urban America could be touted as a possible President. He is really just one more player in their unending quest to trash and diminish one of the greatest Presidents ever. Schweitzer’s failure to note any of the President’s many accomplishments is galling. Even Clinton will find him a hard act to follow. I am skeptical that she could resist the war machine.

    • 40 vcprezofan2
      January 16, 2014 at 8:54 am

      GM to you too, Ranman! :grin: The store owner is beginning to realize ‘the customer comes first’, or is that supposed to be ‘the customer is always right’? Can’t remember, but at any rate, store owner is realizing the customer has rights. At least I HOPE she is. ;)

  8. 41 donna dem 4 obama
    January 16, 2014 at 7:34 am

    Good Morning Everyone.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful O’day.

  9. 42 vcprezofan2
    January 16, 2014 at 7:35 am

    Chips Chica O’Cheesy, very pertinent choice for your post this morning!

    ‘The time is always right to do what is right!’

    Yes, Sir, Mr. President O, and you set a fine and disciplined example!

  10. 46 99ts
    January 16, 2014 at 7:35 am

    gm swbluega – hope your day is great – I had a busy day – not like me at all – tomorrow I am looking to a lazy crazy day of summer – doing as little as possible. :)

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:44 am

      :-D Enjoy your lazy day tomorrow 99ts. We all deserve one of those every now and then. It’s funny to think of this time as summer somewhere in the world given the temperatures we’ve been experiencing of late — even in the normally mild Southern US.

  11. 48 desertflower
    January 16, 2014 at 7:36 am

    Morning everyone! Look at YOU, VC!! Gold looks good on you…. Happy Thursday everyone. Can’t believe how fast this week has gone.

  12. 50 mophene
    January 16, 2014 at 7:37 am

    Christie’s numbers must be really tanking, the morning entertainment shows are really talking up Benghazi.

    • 51 dotster3
      January 16, 2014 at 8:32 am

      I noticed that too—–so transparent. ‘If you think Christie is bad, well, Hillary is worse—–Benghazi!!!’

  13. 52 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 7:46 am

    Where can I find a list of Senator Dems supporting sanctions against Iran, please?

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:50 am

      I saw some of his tweets yesterday DF, his deranged hate of PBO is really something. I tweeted something a while ago about PBO making an announcement on the NSA this week and that Greenwald was already writing his ranty reply without knowing what PBO would say – oh, so true!!

      • 55 desertflower
        January 16, 2014 at 7:55 am

        He’s deranged alright. I honestly don’t even think we should give him the platform or attention he craves anymore…best to just make fun of him and shame his sorry ass. He really is quite pathetic.

        • 56 dotster3
          January 16, 2014 at 8:37 am

          And I see he is going to be on Bill Maher’s show tonight—–which I like—-sometimes—–but not tonight. I can’t stand to look at GG.

      • 57 jackiegrumbacher
        January 16, 2014 at 8:04 am

        Morning, Chips. That man is insufferable and what gets me the most is how many people seem not to recognize the very obvious loathing that motivates him. GG is sick, literally eaten up with hatred and drowning in his own narcissism and there are still people who hang on his every word. He is not a journalist, has never been elected to anything, has no scruples and zero regard for the truth, but HE is right in some people’s minds and PBO is ipso facto wrong. Makes me want to puke.

        • January 16, 2014 at 8:16 am

          Oh Jackie, you said it all. His absolute personal hatred for the President drips from his every word. There are plenty of NSA obsessives out there who don’t reduce it all to a personal vendetta against PBO, but he does, each and every time. I still believe that his history of defending white supremacists as a lawyer is the root of all this, I really do. There is a side to Greenwald’s story that the media never looks in to, it’s astonishing how he is treated as a serious journalist when he is nothing but an activist with an ugly agenda – and connections. I’m certain his Koch connections are much deeper than the ones already known. I despise him.

        • 59 99ts
          January 16, 2014 at 8:17 am

          I cannot fathom why Snowden attacked the administration of PBO and not before and always come back to GG as the answer. It’s always the black guy who has to pay for the sins of every person on the planet. If Romney had won the 2012 election, little doubt that we would not be hearing about Snowden, GG and NSA.

    • 60 africa
      January 16, 2014 at 7:53 am

      Poor guy lives in hatesville. Hi DF :) :)

  14. January 16, 2014 at 7:48 am

    G’morning Chips and TOD!! :) Congrats Lady vc on #1 :)

    • January 16, 2014 at 7:48 am

      Gooooooooood Moooooooorning Hopefruit!!!

      • 64 hopefruit2
        January 16, 2014 at 8:06 am

        I’m claiming first for the R & S thread since I KNOW I will be away when you (or ut) post it! :)

        I’m afraid that vc will just have to settle for second….

        • January 16, 2014 at 8:16 am

          Well, that’s an interesting approach to the firsty-seeking business Hopefruit! :lol:

        • 66 vcprezofan2
          January 16, 2014 at 9:06 am

          Morning, Hopef! Wishing you joy and laughter for your Thursday!

          BTW why do people place such little value on 2nd? ‘Settle for second’? Come on, use positive words! 2nd is literally 1st after 1st or 1st preceding 3rd. Ill have you know I am proud to be 2nd ……. when 1st is already taken/ Chips’ shades are not occupying 1st.

  15. 67 dotster3
    January 16, 2014 at 7:51 am
    • 68 99ts
      January 16, 2014 at 8:19 am

      that toon is just too real – it defines the NRA and the stand your ground legislation.

    • 69 jackiegrumbacher
      January 16, 2014 at 8:59 am

      Dotster, our country has become insane. On Tuesday, my husband and I went to a large mall in another county and had a quick lunch in a food court. For the first time in my life, I found myself looking around to see if anyone was going to start shooting. I thought, “what’s the matter with you to become so paranoid this late in life?” That is the way we’re all going to have to think–peeking outside our doors to see if the coast is clear, looking around in every parking lot or public place to see who might be carrying a gun. We’ve let a small minority of gun nuts in this country have an outsize voice and all of us have become cowered by their insane rage.

  16. 70 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 7:51 am
  17. 71 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 7:57 am
  18. 72 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 8:01 am
  19. 76 Jovie
    January 16, 2014 at 8:03 am

    But but but I heard Christie was the best attorney in the solar system and…

    • 77 desertflower
      January 16, 2014 at 8:11 am

      Wonder who’s paying for that? Jersey taxpayers better check now!

    • 78 99ts
      January 16, 2014 at 8:26 am

      The legislature need to be VERY careful – Christie will – without doubt – try to replace their investigation with his “internal investigation” and there will be many in NJ politics – and the US media – who want this shut down

    • 79 Don
      January 16, 2014 at 8:33 am

      Hired outside counsel to assist with an internal rewiew my ass, Chrisite’s counsel was hired to map out a criminal defense if one is needed. I’m glad he thinks he needs a criminal defense lawyer.

      • 80 99ts
        January 16, 2014 at 8:38 am

        “I’m glad he thinks he needs a criminal defense lawyer.”

        I’ll just reword that for you Don – “I’m glad he needs a defense lawyer”

      • 81 99ts
        January 16, 2014 at 8:39 am

        Of course I left out one word

        I’m glad he needs a criminal defense lawyer.

  20. 82 desertflower
    January 16, 2014 at 8:07 am

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/16/us-unitedhealth-results-idUSBREA0F0MY20140116

    UnitedHealth Group Inc, the largest U.S. health insurer, on Thursday reported a higher fourth-quarter profit and the addition of 170,000 members, and said 2014 earnings would improve as well.

    The fourth quarter marked the beginning of sales of new individual plans created under the national healthcare reform law often called Obamacare, coverage which went into effect for the first customers on January 1.

    UnitedHealth has limited its participation in selling those new plans so far to three states but said in the release that “strength in sales to individuals and smaller employer groups” had contributed to adding new customers in the quarter.

    Net income rose to $1.4 billion, or $1.41 per share, from $1.2 billion, or $1.20 per share, a year earlier.

    The insurer is the first to report its results in a group that also includes WellPoint Inc and Aetna Inc. Employer-based plans and government health programs, as well as a fast-growing health technology division, make up the bulk of UnitedHealth’s annual sales.

    UnitedHealth also added new members in its government plans for seniors and for the poor, for a total of 45,445,000 medical customers at the end of 2013.

    The company said that revenue rose to $31.12 billion, up from $28.77 billion a year earlier.

    Thank you, Socialist President Obama (TOTAL SNARK!!!)

    • 83 99ts
      January 16, 2014 at 8:28 am

      It is sad that health care is a “for profit” event – in many areas of my world this is also the case – all our private health insurers used to be non-profit & then they copied the American way – and we get less service for more money.

  21. 84 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 8:08 am
    • January 16, 2014 at 8:55 am

      Definitely supports the notion that the actions of his staff in shutting down the GWB (as well as other actions that will potentially be brought to light during the investigation) was political retaliation as well as standard operating procedure.

    • 86 mophene
      January 16, 2014 at 10:05 am

      Chris Chistie has proven himself to be a nasty piece of work, just like the rest of the GOP.

    • 87 Obama Grandmama
      January 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm

      One thing I noticed with Christie is he was a bully and manipulator while in college as was Romney too by the early stories that were dug up about him during his presidential run.

  22. 88 hopefruit2
    January 16, 2014 at 8:20 am

    Why does my Twitter interface look different? I didn’t go on Twitter for about 24 hrs, and when I returned yesterday evening, the interface had changed. I’m sure you must have noticed the difference too.

    • 93 desertflower
      January 16, 2014 at 8:24 am

      From this piece:

      Republicans have proven themselves to be petty and nasty, and they don’t seem to care about what happens to the country. Their ideology is all that matters to them. They only pretend to care about what happens to the taxpayers’ money. They cut deeply into programs for the poor, at the same time they’re funneling tax money into the pockets of their friends.

      Think about it; they have been cutting — and continue to cut — money for food inspections, money for OSHA inspections, money for the EPA, money for customs inspections, and money for pretty much anything that makes us safer, at the same time they’re giving oil companies billions of dollars in subsidies and giving the Pentagon money that even it says it doesn’t need for projects it says it doesn’t want. At the same time, they crow about “free markets” even as everything in most of our stores is made in Asia. and they do everything they can to prevent workers from organizing into unions. Republicans have taken us from being a nation where every worker has a right to unionize to one in which “at-will employment” and “right to work” essentially gives employers the right to do anything they want.

      In the past 34 years, the Republican Party has brought us a brand of cynicism that should have no place in government, whereby the people who work for us talk about the cost of everything and the value of nothing. They constantly pretend to cut the budget to the bone, when they’re actually diverting the money from programs that help the average American to contracts that line the pockets of those who put them into power, especially when it comes to their baby, the Department of Perpetual War. One of the worst legacies of the Democratic Party-dominated period has to be the Vietnam War, but the Republicans actually topped that by starting three preventable wars in the last 34 years, and turning two of them into major quagmires that lasted longer than Vietnam, and which did little more than line the pockets of defense contractors, to the tune of $2 trillion.

      • 94 jackiegrumbacher
        January 16, 2014 at 9:09 am

        Df, it’s a mess and one that will take generations to reverse if the people who are under 40 today have the will to change things. There is a hunger for this kind of massive positive shift in thinking as we witnessed in the two time election of PBO, in Bill DeBlasio’s win and in the support for people like Elizabeth Warren. And we see that in the states that work hard against this Republicanization, like CA and MD, change can happen. What the Republicans would like most is for all of us to give up, to see the magnitude of the effort required and just shrug our shoulders. Our big challenge is to keep on fighting; the bigger challenge is to inspire younger generations to see this as their cause and mission and to work together to erase this Republican poison from the body politics.

  23. 95 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 8:31 am
    • January 16, 2014 at 8:37 am

      This is a no-brainer to me. If they find universal healthcare for everyone is unconstitutional, they will also have to declare Medicare unconstitutional as well. After all, it’s just universal healthcare for old folks.

  24. 97 globalcitizenlinda
    January 16, 2014 at 8:32 am
  25. January 16, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Shaquille: Gov. Crisco plays dirty. You cannot abide.

    • 99 anniebella
      January 16, 2014 at 10:50 am

      Excuse Shaq, the basketball must have hit him in the head all those times he were misses all those free throws. Left some damage.

  26. 100 Jovie
    January 16, 2014 at 8:34 am
  27. 101 globalcitizenlinda
    January 16, 2014 at 8:40 am

    sure that if this was put to the vote for this gop congress, many would agree

    • 102 Obama Grandmama
      January 16, 2014 at 8:11 pm

      Only pay them for what they get done. No pay for time off or vacations that number more than the two weeks the average worker gets.

  28. 103 africa
    January 16, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Anyone hear from Dudette?

  29. 104 Don
    January 16, 2014 at 8:43 am

    If I were the President I wouldn’t do a goddamn thing about the NSA. I don’t remember anyone giving a flying fuck about the NSA before the black guy became President. Yes the government knows everything about you, so does Visa, Mastercard, Macy’s and Amazon. So what if the government finds out about my porn collection.

  30. 106 dotster3
    January 16, 2014 at 8:45 am

    Another shooting last night—-3 killed at a grocery store in Elkhart, In.——young gunman shot and killed a shopper in her 40’s, an employee in her 20’s, had his automatic pointed at another person’s head when police arrived and killed the gunman. Another day in Gunsmoke America.

  31. 110 dotster3
    January 16, 2014 at 8:53 am

    And I wonder why the wife of Miami Dolphins QB had to have an AR-15 rifle in the back seat of her rental car, which she forgot to retrieve when she turned the car in—–found by the next person who rented the car. When asked, the couple basically said, “None of your business”—–said it was “private”.

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2014-01-15/sports/fl-lauren-tannehill-ar-15-rifle-rental-car-20140115_1_lauren-tannehill-ryan-tannehill-miami-dolphins

  32. 111 desertflower
    January 16, 2014 at 9:03 am

    photo/1

  33. 112 desertflower
    January 16, 2014 at 9:04 am

    photo/1

  34. 113 dotster3
    January 16, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Ugly and horrifying

  35. January 16, 2014 at 9:11 am

    I hope Rachel includes the Christie college story in her mounting evidence that this is SOP for him (and his wife) for years.

  36. 115 vcprezofan2
    January 16, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Off to feed my grumbling stomach. Phone hasn’t rung so I can safely loiter today. :grin: :grin:

  37. 116 Vicki
    January 16, 2014 at 9:33 am

    TEN MILLION ACA Sign-ups.

    10 million.

    Ten million more families and individuals going to live healthier more secure lives.

    This is the news that matters. This is the news that has a lasting effect on our country.

    Ten million!! Senate Democrats and Congresspeople. This is the news and what should be your platform and talking point.

    Ten million blows against income inequality. Embrace it. celebrate it. expand on it. Win a landslide in 2014.


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