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Celebrity Or Average Joe? ObamaCare Is There For You

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117 Responses to “Celebrity Or Average Joe? ObamaCare Is There For You”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    February 15, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Average joelle

  2. February 15, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    I bet my aunt and uncle are pissed that Cristina is an Obot.

  3. 13 JER
    February 15, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    • 14 Dudette
      February 15, 2014 at 2:06 pm

      When we’re talking about people protecting our President and those close to him, frankly I like to hear that they look “bored”. I just hope if they really are bored, that doesn’t mean they’re also not alert.

    • 15 anniebella
      February 15, 2014 at 5:48 pm

      Anything from Aspen, Colorado? Never mind forget it, let Mom and daughters enjoy their time away from the spotlight. They deserve it.

  4. 16 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Congress hits a wall on immigration

    ———————————————–

    As congress hits another wall with immigration reform, the panel takes a closer look at Republicans’ “trust issues” with President Obama. Katon Dawson, Christina Greer, Kica Matos and Raul Reyes join Joy Reid at the table.

    ————————————————–

    http://on.msnbc.com/1mjm46t

  5. 18 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    REPUBLICAN PARTY EXCUSES FOR NOT DOING IMMIGRATION REFORM

    (This is not a complete list.)

    ————————————-

    – Trust issues with President Obama

    – President Obama won’t enforce the laws

    – President Obama has issued Executive Orders

    – The border is not secure enough

    – Obamacare

    – The Sequester

    – The fake IRS Scandal

    – Benghazi

    – The Boston Marathon Bombing

    – The NSA Revelations

    ———————————————–

  6. 19 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    • 20 Nerdy Wonka
      February 15, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      I hope not.

      Hope that the jury will realize that you do not murder an unarmed Black child and get to walk away free. Not again.

  7. 21 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 2:22 pm

  8. 22 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    THE DAILY SHOW – JON STEWART

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    American Border Story

    Republicans confront immigration reform with perhaps the greatest projection in the history of psychology. (07:07)

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    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-11-2014/american-border-story

  9. 23 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    • 24 Nena20409
      February 15, 2014 at 3:25 pm

      I thought that the interview had already occurred?
      O.J. Simpson was ignored by the media. They only reported on him when in trouble. But the Child Killer here is being made of a Celebrity?

      The media ignored O.J. Simpson for they said that he was guilty, but found Not Guilty.

      Child Killer was found Not Guilty, even though he Killed a 17yrs old, just 3 weeks in from 16yrs?

      Something seriously is Wrong In these USA…..Florida…..STOP IT.

  10. 26 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    A CREATURE AS PRISTINE AND MAGICAL AS A UNICORN (aka A RHETORICAL TOOL)

    ‘The Republican alternative to Obamacare’

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    Chris Hayes argues that the GOP’s alternative to Obamacare is a creature as pristine and magical as a unicorn – and just as impossible to locate in the real world.

    ————————————————-

    http://on.msnbc.com/1duUrla

  11. 27 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 2:26 pm

  12. 31 GGAIL
    February 15, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Good West Coast morning NW & TOD family.
    Has the verdict come in yet?

    • 32 Nerdy Wonka
      February 15, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      No, not yet.

      The jury had questions, and that had everyone tense because that was what occurred during the trial of Trayvon Martin’s murderer.

      We’re in a wait mode.

  13. 34 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Congress twists the relevant facts on purpose

    BY Wendell Potter

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    Like I used to do, they took numbers in a report from a government agency — in this case the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — and twisted their meaning to suggest something never intended by the report’s authors. Like I used to do, they misled the public with statistics to advance their team’s ultimate agenda, which, of course, is to win votes in November. And if getting people to vote against their own best interests means making comments that not only are dishonest but also contradict what they’ve said previously, so be it.

    I have to wonder if, also like my former me, they have trouble sleeping at night.

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    http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/02/10/14219/congress-twists-relevant-facts-purpose

  14. February 15, 2014 at 2:33 pm

  15. 36 desertflower
    February 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/02/10/14219/congress-twists-relevant-facts-purpose

    If you’re curious about what I used to do as a PR guy for the health insurance industry, how I often took facts and figures and twisted them to advance a specific political or financial agenda, take a look at the behavior of some members of Congress last week.

    Like I used to do, they took numbers in a report from a government agency — in this case the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — and twisted their meaning to suggest something never intended by the report’s authors. Like I used to do, they misled the public with statistics to advance their team’s ultimate agenda, which, of course, is to win votes in November. And if getting people to vote against their own best interests means making comments that not only are dishonest but also contradict what they’ve said previously, so be it.

    I have to wonder if, also like my former me, they have trouble sleeping at night.

    At issue is a section of the CBO’s 10-year budget and economic outlook, which was released last Tuesday.

  16. 37 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Immigration groups ready ‘punishment’ for GOP

    By Benjy Sarlin

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    Frustrated by the Speaker John Boehner’s reluctance to press ahead with immigration reform, activist groups are launching an aggressive new campaign to pressure and unseat House Republicans.

    “From now on, any lawmaker who does not support comprehensive immigration reform should expect relentless and constant confrontations that will escalate until they agree to support immigration reform,” Kica Matos, spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, told reporters in a conference call on Tuesday.

    According to FIRM, an umbrella group for a variety of pro-reform organizations, the new tactics signal a move into the “electoral punishment” phase of the debate.

    ———————————————

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/immigration-groups-plan-punish-gop

  17. February 15, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    ok, my stomach is in knots. I’m a weakling and not straying from TOD, so can anyone tell me what the questions were from the jury this morning, or at least the gist of them?

    • 39 desertflower
      February 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm

      http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/15/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

      The questions and answers:
      — “Is the defense of self-defense separate for each person in each count?” Judge: “Yes.”
      — “Are we determining if deadly force is justified against each person in each count?” Judge: “Yes.”
      — “Or, if we determine deadly force is justified against one person, is it justified against the others?” Judge: “No. Self-defense and justifiable use of deadly force applies separately to each count.”
      With that, he sent them back to the jury room for further deliberations.

  18. 42 sherijr
    February 15, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    does anyone know if there have been federal charges in this Dunn trial? Would this not be a hate crime also?

    • February 15, 2014 at 3:07 pm

      He was not charged with a hate crime and there have been no federal charges.

      There is independent information in the form of letters and interviews with his neighbor that would form the basis to be charged as a hate crime.

      • 44 sherijr
        February 15, 2014 at 3:12 pm

        exactly- I read some of the letter content on twitter. Should this jury fail at their job to convict this killer- then I like to believe the feds will step in with charges. But it begs the question how could FL DA not file fed charges.. imo.

  19. 45 Ladyhawke
    February 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Senator Cruz Exposed His Colleagues

    By Booman Tribune

    ————————————–

    Never mind that Senator Cruz is a lunatic who would prefer to have Congress renege on its debts, destroy the country’s credit rating, and cause widespread unemployment and economic mayhem. What he did was expose the hypocrisy of his colleagues who were pretending to support the same lunacy.

    Let no one be fooled by Speaker Boehner’s decision to allow a vote that only 28 members of the majority actually voted for, and let no one be fooled by the Senate Republicans’ effort to allow a hike in debt ceiling without any of them actually supporting it. Thanks to Ted Cruz, their game was divulged.

    ————————————–

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2014/2/15/101346/645

  20. 46 JER
    February 15, 2014 at 3:02 pm

  21. February 15, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    • 48 Dudette
      February 15, 2014 at 3:13 pm

      Okay, I’m ordering the DVDs. I can’t take this anymore!

      • February 15, 2014 at 3:47 pm

        Just get a Netflix subscription, season 1 and 2 are there.

      • 51 99ts
        February 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm

        Dudette, if you haven’t seen it – take Rachel’s advice and watch the UK version first – then watch the US one. I haven’t seen the US one – but loved the UK one – according to Rachel – they have to be watched in that order – I don’t know why??

        • February 15, 2014 at 6:23 pm

          I watched the UK version after watching season one with Kevin Spacey. That worked for me cuz I got to see where it came from. I would advise watching season one with Kevin Spacey before the new one though. Wonder if it will be on DVDs since it is a Netflix original? I assume it is to entice new viewers.
          I love my Netflix online and mail subscription. I originally enrolled a few years ago as a birthday gift to myself. I have switched from one at a time unlimited and back to two at a time several times depending on how many regular tv shows I watch. When the online version began for members at no extra charge I liked it, but noticed there were not as many choices as the mail DVDs. I loved watching whole series in a marathon way though so when the online started charging I decided to scale down to one in the mail and online which equaled the same monthly charge I had for two at a time in the mail. I can say that changing my status on Internet is very easy to do and I have never been overcharged.

          • 53 99ts
            February 15, 2014 at 6:36 pm

            I like marathon watching too – but in my world there is no netflix – and DVDs are often outside my price range – I usually buy them about 10 years after the series – because they are then so much cheaper!

  22. 58 JER
    February 15, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    The Annenbergs’ Dream for Sunnyland

  23. 61 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 3:14 pm

  24. 62 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 3:14 pm

  25. 64 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm

  26. February 15, 2014 at 3:37 pm

  27. 66 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm

  28. 67 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 4:28 pm

  29. February 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    JURY just issued their statement to the Judge that they have reached a verdict on 4 counts but CANNOT reach unanimous agreement on COUNT 1 or any of its lesser charges.

    Judge read them the Allen Charge, which instructs them to return and try again. They are now back in deliberation.

    • February 15, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      Before the judge can declare a mistrial on Count 1, jurors must go back in deliberation and tell each other weakest part of their own vote. Then discuss and see if they can come to an agreement.

      • 70 Vicki
        February 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm

        meta, are you watching MSNBC? Lisa Bloom is looking pessimistic which scares me.
        This murderous racist MF must Not walk.

        • 71 Vicki
          February 15, 2014 at 4:56 pm

          Lisa B. had it right with Zimmerman and thought the prosecutors blew it then and are blowing it now.

        • February 15, 2014 at 4:59 pm

          No, I don’t have cable. I’m watching the livestream on my laptop.

        • February 15, 2014 at 5:01 pm

          Well, if he’s found guilty on charges 2 – 5, he is subject to three sentences of life, with 20 yrs min and will have to serve all three consecutively.

          Then the prosecution will have to decide if they want to re-try the case on Count 1.

    • February 15, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      We don’t know as yet how they decided on Counts 2 – 5.

      If they are hopelessly deadlocked on Count 1, the judge will declare a mistrial on Count 1 and go forward with their verdicts on Counts 2 – 5.

  30. 80 Bill R.
    February 15, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    I’m hearing that convictions of 3 attempted murder charges bring 20 years min. each. Can the judge declare a mistrial on the first charge and accept convictions on the others, I’m wondering, then retry him on the first if there is no decision’

    • February 15, 2014 at 5:02 pm

      Yes, exactly. But the state will have to decide whether to re-try him.

      • 82 Nerdy Wonka
        February 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm

        Sunny Hostin just said that the State said they will retry him if there is a mistrial on the first charge.

        • February 15, 2014 at 5:06 pm

          That is good news.

          • 84 Bill R.
            February 15, 2014 at 5:11 pm

            Good news indeed!
            Does this look correct in terms of possible charges and sentencing?
            Murder 1: Life in Prison
            Murder2: Minimum 25 yrs
            Manslaughter: 9-30 yrs
            3 Attempted Murder: 60 yrs (20 each)
            Firing at Car: up to 15 years

            • February 15, 2014 at 5:13 pm

              I haven’t looked at that for a few weeks because it’s not something a jury is to know but that looks roughly correct.

            • 86 99ts
              February 15, 2014 at 5:32 pm

              There are 5 charges in the indictment
              Murder 1 is the first charge – Murder 2 & manslaughter are the lesser included charges – he can only be found guilty on 1 of these charges – or not guilty on all

              the other 4 charges are as you say. It is possible with the attempted murder charges the terms (20 years) could run concurrently – most people think this Judge would make them consecutive.

              It is very sad that it seems impossible for a Florida jury to call it murder when a white man shoots a black teenager. Dunn could have parked his car anywhere in that place – but he chose to start an argument and he decided to end it by using a gun – and a Florida jury doesn’t see that as murder????

  31. 87 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 5:06 pm

  32. 88 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Good reminder

  33. 89 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 5:07 pm

  34. February 15, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    This is heartbreaking.

    • 91 Nerdy Wonka
      February 15, 2014 at 5:26 pm

      Trayvon Martin – 17.

      Jordan Davis – 19.

      Wow. Then people act confused and foolish when People of Color feel disenfranchised in their own country.

  35. February 15, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    BUT, we should exercise caution here because it’s possible the jury may not have decided on intent w/r/t Counts 2 – 5. That means they could have found Dunn not guilty on those counts.

    OMG.

    • 94 Nerdy Wonka
      February 15, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      That’s what some of the lawyers they’ve interviewed said.

      Everything inside me recoiled at that thought because it took me back to the Zimmerman trial and verdict.

    • 95 Vicki
      February 15, 2014 at 5:35 pm

      OMG is right. This is the worst case scenario and it is unbearable.
      How is firing into a retreating vehicle Not intent?? The jury saw the bullet holes.

    • February 15, 2014 at 5:41 pm

      The judge has the discretion to seal the verdicts on Counts 2 – 5. Prosecution may ask they be announced.

    • 97 99ts
      February 15, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      It is hard to image not guilty on the attempted murder charges – and a hung jury on murder – although with a Florida jury (and a black victim) who would know.

      I guess if you think Dunn is not guilty of murder – then the other lads were simply collateral damage – they shouldn’t hang around with someone who stood his ground about playing his music.

      • February 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm

        Well, I think the issue may be intent. But, yes, it’s unfathomable to even split these hairs when the evidence is so overwhelming.

        • 99 99ts
          February 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm

          If the 1st charge is split between 1st & 2nd degree – i agree with you meta – I doubt I would convict on 1st degree – but from the earlier questions this am – I don’t think that is the split (hope I am wrong). I would think a juror wanting 1st degree – would be happy to accept 2nd – but ??

          Whatever – even if convicted he will appeal – & I have little faith in what an appeal court would do in this case.

          • February 15, 2014 at 5:52 pm

            I don’t think the deadlock was over the lesser charges. Just based on their questions submitted to the judge, I think they were hung-up on the question of self-defense.

  36. 101 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 5:28 pm

  37. 102 MightyPamela
    February 15, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Hi kids! Tea time (finally)! ;)

  38. February 15, 2014 at 5:35 pm

  39. 104 jacquelineoboomer
    February 15, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Don Lemon on CNN is going to speak frankly about the murder case now, if interested in his response to the verdict wait.

  40. 109 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    I am hoping that the jurors in the trial for the murderer of Mr. Jordan Davis surprise the nation and do the right thing;

    I know that PBO cited the need for empathy when he was asked the key criteria which he would use to determine his choice of nominee to SCOTUS;

    I also remember that many in the media and on the right laughed at him and trivialized the magnitude of this pronouncement of empathy being so critical to a just world and to the justice system;

    I think that many who laughed did not understand that empathy is no different from what is contained in “the Sermon on the Mountain” – something PBO also has said is the part of the bible that is most consequential and treasured by him;

    if most of us used empathy more as our guide, chances are that our justice system would be more fair and that violence would be greatly reduced;

  41. 111 dotster3
    February 15, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Was curious because the stand your ground map included Illinois—– I had never heard it mentioned with any criminal case here. Illinois does NOT CURRENTLY have a stand your ground Fl. type law—-only the law which allows protection of life and property in your home—–but not the shoot first anywhere/everywhere Fl. type law and it has never been an issue because we did not have conceal/carry—–until recently when the Dem legislature, for some unknown reason, jammed through passage of this boneheaded legislation. It has yet to go into effect but all expect these type of cases to arise, as well as an increase in crime, as elsewhere, as trigger happy nutball shooters believe they have protection to shoot whatever momentarily annoys them. It seems to me this is the most idiotic law ever dreamed up (by the NRA)—-as any goofball hothead can say they “believed” they were at risk, felt threatened. It’s an invitation to disaster, as we’ve seen——as is the huge proliferation of guns everywhere—–everyone seems to have a gun at the ready—–on their person, on the front seat of their car, in the glove compartment, on their nightstands—–available for shooting at even the pettiest of annoyances. It’s crazy.

  42. 112 anniebella
    February 15, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    It seem we are going back to the days when white people could kill blacks for looking at them the wrong way and they would get away with it. And it is thanks to the NRA, ALEC, right wing Governors, and Tea Republican Party. And I am starting not to trust that district attorney in Florida, the same woman who was in charge of the Zimmerman case and Ms. Alexander case.

    • 113 Vicki
      February 15, 2014 at 5:45 pm

      Starting not to trust her? She smirked her way thru the Zimmerman fiasco and acted like having a trial at all was a big favor to the family.
      Angela Corrie is the modern face of condescension and racism.

  43. February 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    The judge has the discretion to seal the verdicts on Counts 2 – 5. Prosecution may ask they be announced.

  44. 117 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 6:24 pm


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