125 Responses to “Presidential PDA”


  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:11 pm
    • 2 No Child Left Behind
      February 15, 2014 at 7:13 pm

      Lovely picture of our First Couple. Thank you Nerdy Wonka.

      But I am pissed at the verdict.

    • 6 Cindy
      February 15, 2014 at 7:16 pm

      Thank you Nerdy Wonka for your wonderful work.

      This is sickening, it’s time for the Prosecutors to go, they don’t know how to fight for our children and this is sickening.

    • 7 idon
      February 15, 2014 at 8:20 pm

      It’s hard but a start. He will spend the REST OF HIS LIFE IN PRISON. He is 47, which means he will not serve out a 60+ prison sentence. HE WILL DIE IN PRISON. Now we need to continue the research and expose through RESEARCH on MSNBC and other media outlets what the research says about the extreme dangerousness of white male misperceptions of black male social behavior, specifically as it relates to black male children and teenagers.

      • 8 lockewasright
        February 15, 2014 at 9:25 pm

        We need to change the law too. I am a white male and I made it all the way home from work surrounded by non-white people and I didn’t even have a gun! Astonishing, right? I am so stupid that I didn’t even know that I should quake in fear at every twitch or sudden motion that anyone around me made!

    • 9 Obama Grandmama
      February 15, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      Upon watching MSNBC’s presentation with the parents and DA I thought I heard he was convicted of second degree murder, not first degree which means premeditated. They plan to retry for first degree.

  2. 10 No Child Left Behind
    February 15, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    I am waiting for the first juror that will go on CNN and talk about a book deal. Jerks!!!

  3. 11 No Child Left Behind
    February 15, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    If there is a retrial, I hope the prosecutor is a different gang, of a different mold. I don’t believe that the current prosecutor can lose two cases in which unarmed black young men are murdered and their assassins found not guilty can honestly continue to practice law.

    • 12 Cindy
      February 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm

      They didn’t use all of the evidence No Child Left Behind,

      The letters were not presented to the jurors, the Prosecutors don’t know how to present their cases, as it relates to black children being gunned down like animals. This is sickening and this man is free on murdering Jordan Davis-period.

      • 13 99ts
        February 15, 2014 at 7:23 pm

        Hello Cindy – I do think part of it relates to confusion with the laws passed by the Florida legislature. Apparently the jury instructions had to account for new laws and everyone from the Judge down found them very confusing.

        • 14 Cindy
          February 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm

          How 99ts,

          Happy Sunday evening to you…..

          I know 99ts, this is just overwhelming. Another child is dead and another racist is not convicted for the murder.

    • 15 sherijr
      February 15, 2014 at 7:55 pm

      and that is a very fine point NCLB – to lose two very similar cases basically.. should count against her.. someone else needs to take the reins on the retrial, not Corey. Possibly she just is not the right person to defend the lives and rights of black children… or two seek justice for black families.

    • 16 Obama Grandmama
      February 15, 2014 at 9:39 pm

      It was not found not guilty for first degree murder it was a mistrial which will be tried again. Mistrial means all did not agree. Second degree murder charge was found guilty.

  4. 17 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    You can agree that he attempted to kill the teens, but don’t agree that he murdered Jordan Davis. One step forward, ten steps backward.

  5. February 15, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    None of the jurors want to speak to the media.

  6. 20 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm
  7. 21 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    If and when the first count is retried, different prosecutors have to head the case because twice now, monsters have walked free after killing Black children.

    It’s too much. This is not fair. Black bodies are being threatened, destroyed, and killed like they don’t matter.

    If the races were reversed, the outcomes would be different.

    • 22 hopefruit2
      February 15, 2014 at 7:22 pm

      Indeed NW. When Don Lemon is outraged, you know we’re dealing with some majorly sick double standards here.

  8. 23 Melanie
    February 15, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    I hope that Angela Corey decides to retry him in the killing of Jordan Davis. His parents deserve to have his death declared a murder.

  9. 25 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Twitter seems to be saying there was only one voting for murder and so it was a mistrial for that count. But is it possible it’s the reverse — that all but one juror voted guilty for murder?

    • February 15, 2014 at 7:25 pm

      There is no way for them to know because the jury has not spoken.

    • 29 99ts
      February 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm

      If the jury aren’t speaking – how would twitter know?

      • 30 forus50
        February 15, 2014 at 7:39 pm

        that’s my question. Without qualification many are saying “thank God there was one hold-out juror who didn’t want to acquit”.

    • 31 Obama Grandmama
      February 15, 2014 at 9:47 pm

      The interview explained that the jurors cannot be questioned by the press or DA about the outcome. The jurors are free to come to them with explanations or go to the press whatever they decide.
      My understanding of the interview was that he did get the second degree charge but not the first degree charge. However, maybe I was not understanding what they said.

  10. February 15, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    The parents of Jordan Davis will be making a statement.

  11. 33 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    A few hours ago, I posted here that jurors often surprise – this is one of those moments were it is hard to understand the jury’s thought process

    • 34 Melanie
      February 15, 2014 at 7:33 pm

      My guess is that the jury could not decide about the actions of Jordan Davis. Were they an actual threat to Dunn? Was he trying to get out of the care? Was Dunn trying to defend himself when he shot at Jordan Davis? Remember this was a Stand Your Ground case so not much is going to make sense.

      • 35 nathkatun7
        February 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm

        What doesn’t make sense is how the jury can return a verdict of attempted murder but not murder when Jordan Davis was killed?

        • 36 Melanie
          February 15, 2014 at 7:57 pm

          I agree nath but it only takes 1 person to hang up a jury.

        • February 15, 2014 at 8:01 pm

          The other three young men did not speak to or interact with Dunn but he did fire his gun at all of them, so my guess is they were seen as victims in the situation. So the jury agreed on attempted 2nd degree murder with a firearm for them.

  12. 38 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    THIS.

  13. 39 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm
  14. 40 jacquelineoboomer
    February 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Not sure how the night’s going to go in JAX, if the attorney on CNN just now said there are people in cars doing a loop around the courthouse yelling out “Not Guilty!”

    Here’s the Davis family …

  15. 41 dotster3
    February 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Sincerely asking—-the first charge of murder—-where the jury was unable to reach a verdict—-that means “pre-meditated” murder, right? Or am I wrong? If pre-meditated, that is a tough one for the jury—–to believe he pre-planned the murder. Or was a lesser charge possible? At least there is the satisfaction knowing that this time the perpetrator is not walking away—-he will likely spend the rest of his life locked away.

    • 42 99ts
      February 15, 2014 at 7:37 pm

      The jury had the choice – murder 1 – pre meditated
      murder 2 – not premeditated
      manslaughter – didn’t mean to kill
      not guilty

      They all had to agree on 1 of those options

    • February 15, 2014 at 8:05 pm
      • 45 99ts
        February 15, 2014 at 8:29 pm

        “Depraved mind” – seems a reasonable description in relation to the shooting.

        • February 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm

          Yes, I agree. This is evidenced by his inability to deal with the crime after the murder and shooting spree. Absolute callous disregard for the consequences of his actions.

          • 47 99ts
            February 15, 2014 at 9:21 pm

            I find it interesting or weird or disturbing perhaps that Dunn can sit quietly in court – after being told that he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison – yet he can be outraged to the extent of taking the life of another person – because he decided he was “disrespected”

            Seems like some folks need to learn to stay in their vehicles and just drive away.

            • February 15, 2014 at 9:26 pm

              He’s had a very strange demeanor and affect throughout the whole trial and especially when he was on the stand. Very creepy dissociative vibe.

      • 49 globalcitizenlinda
        February 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm

        Hi Meta,

        Could you please modify this tweet a little bit and add either of/all harshtags for JordanDavis or DunnTrial or JutsiceForJordanDavis?

        Why?

        Because this is a very informative tweet and are a number of people who are following the discussion of the trial verdict and yet lack sufficient information about the content of the actual charge and what each count represents;

        this information could help many out so they can better understand what to further action to advocate for;

        thanks a lot

      • 52 Obama Grandmama
        February 15, 2014 at 9:58 pm

        One of the reporters asked the woman DA why they were going to retry to try to get the first degree when they already got the second degree and he would be in prison most likely the rest of his life? She said something about subsequent trials and lesser penalties and wanting to be sure that the greatest penalty was obtained.

  16. 53 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 7:37 pm
  17. 54 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Ever since the Bush v Gore disaster in Florida all state laws and juries have only made it a more f***ed up state. Period.

  18. 55 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    I have no idea where the Martin and Davis families get their strength from. Monsters killed their children, yet they are the ones who have to be gracious and composed while those monsters walk free.

    They humble me.

    • 56 99ts
      February 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm

      As does the President – he faces hate every day – and is never less than gracious and composed – listening to the Davis family talking of praying for the man who killed their son – that is truly faith

  19. 57 jacquelineoboomer
    February 15, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Lucia McBath, Jordan Davis’ mother, says she will pray for Dunn that he’ll live out his life in jail with “that torment” in his mind, but they will continue to wait for justice for Jordan.

    Jordan’s dad, Ron Davis, says it’s not in his nature to not lash out … God bless him for – as he put it – choosing instead to “represent Jordan as his parents.” He hopes Dunn learns to be remorseful of killing Jordan.

    Here’s the awful Florida State Attorney now on CNN – I choose not to listen to her.

  20. 59 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    This woman has a screw loose.

    • 60 Cindy
      February 15, 2014 at 7:49 pm

      The moment she made the statement, I wanted to slap the crap out of her. I am sorry, but how can you be grateful for the laws in Florida when they are not working for minorities, particularly blacks?

      This seems to be a joke to these incompetent Prosecutors and I pray that a new team will come in and do what is suppose to be done. They screwed up Trevon’s case and they did it here-period.

  21. 61 JER
    February 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    LIVE NOW: Verdict in Michael Dunn Trial – http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  22. 62 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:44 pm
  23. 63 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 7:45 pm
    • 64 Cindy
      February 15, 2014 at 7:53 pm

      Yes, we are hurt, tired, angry and cheated because there are those who devalued our lives in country years ago, and they are still devaluing our life today.

      • 65 99ts
        February 15, 2014 at 7:56 pm

        It is so difficult to reply to your comment Cindy – but do remember that the US twice elected Barack Obama – he represents hope. He will be attacked on all sides if he even speaks about such issues – but he is working for you – all the time.

  24. 67 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Apparently, it can be revered on appeal. *Sigh*

    • 68 jacquelineoboomer
      February 15, 2014 at 7:59 pm

      Everything can be appealed. Hopefully, these convictions will stand.

    • 69 Dudette
      February 15, 2014 at 8:02 pm

      Of course, they will be appealing, so it’s not over. By a longshot, even in the unlikely event the family decides they don’t want to go for mistrial.

  25. 70 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 7:49 pm
  26. February 15, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Prosecutor Guy 0 for 2

  27. 73 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 7:53 pm
  28. 74 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:55 pm
  29. 75 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 7:56 pm
  30. 81 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 7:58 pm
  31. 82 Nerdy Wonka
    February 15, 2014 at 8:00 pm
  32. 83 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 8:09 pm
  33. 84 dotster3
    February 15, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Same as in Zimmerman trial—–what I always believed to be a purposeful overcharge—-almost impossible for jury to convict, given the jury instructions…

  34. 85 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 8:13 pm
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  36. 87 Vicki
    February 15, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    First came the relief I felt that Michael Dunn would be behind bars rather than interviewing with Chris Cuomo.
    Now the relief is giving way to despair that 2 young men were murdered and Florida prosecuters and juries allowed their murderers not to pay for those crimes.

  37. 89 Dudette
    February 15, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    It’s not possible to emphasize this point enough!

  38. 90 99ts
    February 15, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Ron Davis – the law should protect my son as we protected him.

  39. 91 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 8:54 pm
    • 92 99ts
      February 15, 2014 at 9:23 pm

      I can only confirm that Linda – we cannot even imagine living in a world where going to school, the movies or to buy a packet of sweets might be a death sentence.

      • 93 globalcitizenlinda
        February 15, 2014 at 9:37 pm

        it is hard to wrap one’s head around those circumstances and the resistance to changing them;

        routinely, have to re-assure my family back home that I am okay – they worry about the callous use of guns

  40. 94 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 8:58 pm
  41. 97 Cindy
    February 15, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Thank you Nancy Grace for saying what many of us know to be factual. If the role was reversed; black male shoot and kill the 47 year old white male, the trial would have been over long ago.

    This was racially motivated and Don Lemon is warning America to wake up. Here in Florida, we have seen so much injustice, and this is building up and one day it will not be contained. We went through this in the 80’s when white officers killed Mr. Arthur McDuffie and rioting broke out for 3 days. Innocent whites were murdered because it was too much for African Americans when those officers were all acquitted for the murder. I hope and pray that Florida is paying attention before innocent lives are taken again. They must do something about a law that gives people the right to gun down someone and they never get charged for the murder. Frustration is not hiding, and sooner or later, Florida will have to deal with the inevitable.

    Now, they are airing the murderer of Trevon on Monday. Tomorrow would have been Jordan Davis 19th birthday. Why do I have to be afraid for my 4 nephews just because they are young black men?

  42. 98 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    ;

  43. 99 jacquelineoboomer
    February 15, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Trying to calm down my mind … this is something to think about, and perhaps pass on to the grandchildren.

  44. 101 Allison
    February 15, 2014 at 9:20 pm
  45. 102 MightyPamela
    February 15, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    {{{TOD}}}

  46. 103 JER
    February 15, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    President Obama’s Bilateral Meeting with His Majesty King Abdullah I

  47. 104 jackiegrumbacher
    February 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    I hope the travesty of the Dunn verdict is followed by a massive commitment in Florida to rid the state of incompetents at every level, including the governor, state legislature, state attorney and every local office possible. The lunacy of the “stand your ground” law CAN be reversed. The State Attorney CAN be replaced, the governor MUST be replaced. The sweetest revenge for the anger and disgust we all feel is to organize and kick everyone of these people out of office. Florida surprised the country twice by delivering the popular vote to Barack Obama. The votes are there and it can be done. Every election has to be urgent. Every election needs to be elevated to a life or death decision because Florida has shown that that’s exactly and literally what it means–living or dying. Florida organizers twice showed themselves to be among the best in the country. That kind of organizing can and must be done again and again and again, until the evil of ALEC is completely and finally purged from the state.

  48. 108 forus50
    February 15, 2014 at 9:47 pm
  49. 114 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 10:21 pm
  50. 115 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    February 15, 2014 at 10:25 pm
  51. 118 Claire
    February 15, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Thank God, there was at least someone on that jury that held out and would not let this guy walk on the murder charge.

  52. 119 Allison
    February 15, 2014 at 10:27 pm
    • 120 dotster3
      February 15, 2014 at 10:45 pm

      Stand Your Ground has to be repealed wherever it exists—–it’s the most senseless law ever—–as anyone! can excuse any murder or gun violence by claiming they felt threatened. And all kinds of people are using it as their defense. There is no limiting color/ethnic qualifications. It’s a license to kill—-for all. But I also still believe that our lax gun laws—-or non-existing gun laws—–are the most to blame. None of these atrocities could have happened if gun use was restricted. Trayvon Martin would still be alive. And so would Jordan Davis. If the perpetrators had not had ready access to the gun, the worst that could have happened was yelling swears back and forth or maybe someone taking a swing at someone—–but there would be no deaths—-squeal out of the parking lot and that would be it. And the same is true in thousands of other gun deaths. It’s insane. Just watching 48 Hours about trying to save the kids in New Orleans by getting them in bands and ready to march in the Mardi Gras—-kids are saying that they are the only ones still alive in their huge group of friends—-everyone they started school with have been shot and killed. One of the mothers said that before everyone had a gun—-someone might have had a fight one day but would be back to being best friends the next. Now she said if someone has a fight at noon, one or more would be shot dead by 1:00. It’s insane. Sensible people need to rise up and do something, to finally be determined to rid this country of this sickness.

      • 121 forus50
        February 15, 2014 at 11:20 pm

        yup. If there is anything positive about this income is that it hopefully has enough people incensed to get out and vote in November.

  53. 123 jacquelineoboomer
    February 15, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Sounds like some of the fools in this country:

  54. 124 yardarm756
    February 15, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    My heart is very heavy with the glaring untruth that is racially neutral bullshit. It is what it is.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/15/michael-dunn-verdict_n_4796068.html

  55. 125 globalcitizenlinda
    February 15, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    this has been an emotionally-draining day


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