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As sprinkler’s water the South Lawn, President Obama walks from the White House as he heads to play golf, May 24

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129 Responses to “Chat Away”


    • 2 Ladyhawke
      May 24, 2014 at 1:55 pm

      He is indefatigable. After that grueling trip to Asia, President Obama came back and hit the ground running and hasn’t stopped since. While the GOP obsesses over Benghazi and Obamacare President Obama just keeps on keeping on. He never ceases to amaze me. It warms my heart to know he is taking a break and enjoying a round of golf.

    • May 24, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      Congrats on 1st, vetivera!!

  1. 5 vcprezofan2
    May 24, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Whew!

  2. 19 vcprezofan2
    May 24, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Nice moves, Almab! :)

  3. 20 carolyn
    May 24, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Since my question was at the end of the previous post, I’ll ask it here. What does ITO stand for in Joy Reid’s blog? I’m not on twitter, but inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks…..

  4. 23 GGAIL
    May 24, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.

  5. 26 yardarm756
    May 24, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Good afternoon everyone….Hope you’re enjoying your weekend. I know I will, but I can’t help but remember.

  6. 29 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Vetivera24 has Au 2X today ;)

    Congrats.

  7. May 24, 2014 at 2:14 pm
  8. 32 donna dem 4 obama
    May 24, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Gran babies are on their way over and they finally are big enough to wear their “Obama Baby My First President” onesie http://www.cafepress.com/mf/31219093/obama-baby_bodysuit?productId=320677794 …. It’s time to indoctrinate the kids properly :)

    I sense a “GrandbabiesRTheBest” Picture coming this weekend. :)

  9. 39 GGAIL
    May 24, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Yo vc!
    I sent u an email

  10. 40 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    The Rodger CA gunman’s confessional video is loaded with so much entitlement of the highest form.

    The guy drove a BMWer, could afford guns and amos and looked good enough to attract females. So my untrained guess, he looked less muscular. He’s still a virgin at 22 for a man, in 2014?

    There is no way this guy was not afforded psychoanalysts by his parents.

    He had issues that he could not accept so he turned his hatred cowardly to others.

    I know it is not politically to say this. So pardon me if my harsh comments are too soon. He should have killed himself alone without killing 6 others and wounding 19.

    • 41 Nena20409
      May 24, 2014 at 2:28 pm

      http://www.mediaite.com/online/family-confirms-ucsb-shooter-is-son-of-hunger-games-assistant-director/

      Reports have now confirmed that alleged UC Santa Barbara shooting suspect Elliot Rodger is the son of Peter Rodger, a filmmaker who worked as an assistant director on The Hunger Games. According to ABC News, Peter Rodger’s attorney, Alan Schifman, confirmed that the shooter was the director’s son.

    • 42 hopefruit2
      May 24, 2014 at 2:29 pm

      I see a few people on Twitter saying that we need better mental health policy. But all the mental health in the world cannot compensate for a pervasive yet normalized culture of violence, gun addiction and misogyny.

      • 43 Nena20409
        May 24, 2014 at 2:43 pm

        His parents know he was this way…with problems, I mean. I bet the police and others were never aware of his hateful thoughts.

        The guy that killed 20 children and 6 of their teachers had access to help. The guy who shot Gabby and those two shooters at Columbine and the guy at the Theater had access for better healthcare. All their parents knew their male sons had issues.

        If parents are held to account for these people,….. perhaps that is a debate worth having.

        While crimes are down, mass shootings have gone up. There is a reason why. I don’t have an answer. But having Guns everywhere is making matters worse, therefore, more mass shootings.

        • 44 aquagranny911
          May 24, 2014 at 4:38 pm

          I read that the parents & his therapist had contacted the police with their concerns & that the police had even spoke with him. The problem is that he was legally an adult & can’t be forced to treatment if he won’t go & the cops probably couldn’t do much either. IMO, the real issue is the easy access to weapons designed for nothing but killing.

        • 45 dotster3
          May 24, 2014 at 4:46 pm

          I always wonder about the parents when some young person goes off on some violent spree—–wonder why they didn’t seek help for their child who was obviously troubled for a long period of time. But if a tweet I read is correct, his parents did contact the police, saying they were in fear of their son, or what he might do. His therapist also contacted the police with the same concerns—-so it is likely they made sure he was getting some mental health help——-and—–the shooter was interviewed by the police. None of that was sufficient. In this case I wonder if any of his acquaintances who likely viewed his utube vid, where he clearly stated his plans for the shooting, contacted authorities. That was supposedly posted on Thursday—-plenty of time to bring him in for questioning.

      • 46 anniebella
        May 24, 2014 at 2:50 pm

        We need to get together and get out to vote and put people in office who will stand up to the NRA and make it harder for sick people to get guns. And yes we need better mental health policy.

        • 47 hopefruit2
          May 24, 2014 at 2:56 pm

          Only if the mental health policy directly and aggressively addresses the pervasive culture of entitlement, violence (including gun policy), immediate gratification and misogyny that exists.

          Mental illness is universal but America ranks among highest for mass shootings. We cannot attribute this to just mental illness – unless we are willing to accept that the normalization of gun violence and need for immediate gratification are forms of mental illness.

    • 48 idon
      May 24, 2014 at 4:59 pm

      Oh please I feel the exact same way. That’s why they are communicating through their attorney. I do not have once ounce of sympathy for their privileged nutjob son. Like one young lady said his family had to know what was going on.

  11. 49 yardarm756
    May 24, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    GREED!

  12. 50 Ladyhawke
    May 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Eric Boehlert ‏@EricBoehlert 5h

    Is this the vote that ends McConnell’s senate career? @ http://bit.ly/1njzFeP #USvets #mitchmentum

    • 51 Ladyhawke
      May 24, 2014 at 2:44 pm

      Eric Boehlert ‏@EricBoehlert 2h

      dont know what Twitter cons are more angry abt: fact 8M signed up for O’Care or that i keep pointing out GOP filibustered vet aid $$$ in Feb

    • 52 jacquelineoboomer
      May 24, 2014 at 2:44 pm

      Hope so!

  13. 53 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm
    • 54 Nena20409
      May 24, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      My apologies to the parents. They did call the police.

      So very sad for those killed and wounded and for the parents.

      • 55 jacquelineoboomer
        May 24, 2014 at 2:50 pm

        Your angst with the parents was understandable. Sometimes the parents can only do so much, even if they try to bring in psychiatric experts and law enforcement, even if they shower their children with love and care. It takes a village, but that doesn’t mean intervention is always successful … especially when guns are so easily attainable in any village in this country.

  14. 56 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    I really respect King Abdullah II in many ways, as I did his father, and am so glad Pope Francis made a courtesy visit to the Kingdom of Jordan during his trip to the Holy Land. “Good will and understanding” was the theme presented by the king during his welcoming remarks, mentioning that the “true spirit of Islam” is “the spirit of peace.” Both men seemed very gracious and sincere during their remarks before a local audience and the world media. Among other comments, the Pope congratulated King Abdullah II for his work for peace, his generosity in welcoming so many refugees to Jordan, and also mentioned his appreciation that the smaller Christian community in Jordan is fully a part of their society, with religious freedom.

  15. May 24, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    A must read ….

    Donbas Speaking: A response by the women of Donbas to commander Girkyn [“Strelok”]

    “Field commander Girkyn is bemused that there are no people willing to die for the chimeras of the Russian TV propaganda! Those in Russia think that everyone in Donbas dreams about joining Russia,but the past “referendum” clearly indicated that it’s not so. In western Ukraine, they consider Donetskys [Donetsk gangs] to be the enemies both in the historical context and in the modern situation, remembering the “titushkys” who came from there to pummel revolutionary Kyiv. But mercenaries arrived, ones who didn’t care from what side to get the money, and they were sent by Akhmetov–the man who’s been robbing the people of Donbas for many years.

    Of course, Donbas residents are not the residents of blooming Kyiv or hospitable Lviv. These are stern guys with metal grit in their hair and coal dust under their skin. They smoke and drink a lot, and do it for three reasons: a drunk person is not as afraid to go down a mine shaft that is long past its safety requirements, or the “kopanka” (a pirate shaft), which was never up to code, where [the shaft] can collapse on top of you, where you can get flooded, or where you can get burnt alive. People are not officially registered at enterprises, they are paid salaries every day because trauma and deaths are a regular occurrence here. Who counts the residents of Donbas? The last census in Ukraine took place in 2001…

    clip

    The state should help fix some particularly complex technological issues in the field, even if the enterprise cannot objectively handle a task like this. Actually, Russia can offer this rescue option for Donbas, but it won’t because it doesn’t intend to invest in this region, “Why feed meat to the slaves, when they can survive on millet.” But we are not slaves, and those who understand this will hear Donbas, and Donbas will hear them.”

    Link in the tweet …

  16. 58 Ladyhawke
    May 24, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Greg Sargent ‏@ThePlumLineGS 7h

    The fact that leader of Senate Rs and multiple GOP Sen candidates are offering utter gibberish on Ocare repeal is major story.

  17. 59 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    What kind of nonsense is this? Yeah…we need more “it gets better videos” for 22 year old adults who feel entitled to women’s affections and kill people for it…This guy was not a gay or disabled teenager who was being bullied. I’m sorry but if you’re an entitled, misogynistic jerk, it will NOT get better. I don’t care how many therapists you might be seeing.

    • 60 dotster3
      May 24, 2014 at 5:06 pm

      I’m not sure what “entitled” has to do with this ——the guy was obviously mentally ill——and full of self pity because no one liked him—–and no one liked him because they probably perceived him as odd, off—–and steered clear. And he had to be aware that he had serious mental problems if he was seeing multiple therapists—-more self pity, more uncontrollable anger. He probably should have been in a mental hospital getting 24/7 care, easier said than done. And that would be true whether he came from a family of means, or not. Sadly, we see similar acting out in all kinds of families. I think that anyone who can shoot another person has serious mental health issues, and I see news of that every day in Chicago—–multiple shootings every day.

      • 61 hopefruit2
        May 24, 2014 at 5:33 pm

        The fact that someone has mental illness does not preclude them from other traits such as a warped sense of entitlement – which was quite evident in this guy’s case.

        As I said, mental illness is universal – but when you add a layer of narcissistic grievance and violence to the equation – and you wind up with the mass murders that we are experiencing so frequently these days.

        • 62 nathkatun7
          May 24, 2014 at 7:52 pm

          Hopefruit2, I tend to agree with you about this guy’s entitlement thinking! Please don’t get me wrong. I think the guy was probably nuts and in need of mental help. But can you imagine a 22 year-old black male receiving sympathy, and implied justification, for going on a rampage and randomly killing white people because he had been racially demeaned, abused and ostracized? Here is a 22 year-old white male who goes on a rampage killing women because they shunned him, and the immediate verdict is that he was mentally ill. How come many whites who commit heinous crimes are considered mentally ill and in need of therapy, whereas any Black person who is alleged to have committed a crime is regarded as a thug and an animal who belongs behind bars?

  18. 63 yardarm756
    May 24, 2014 at 2:55 pm
  19. 64 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 2:58 pm
    • 65 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      May 24, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      Disappointing to see so many empty chairs…

      • 66 jacquelineoboomer
        May 24, 2014 at 5:05 pm

        Thought at first maybe the empty seating was held open for honored guests who couldn’t attend, or people standing who didn’t have time to grab them in advance of the remarks (my good twin) … or this view was purposefully shown by the media as an embarrassment to the administration (my evil twin). That latter part will tell you how cynical I’m getting, although I do not personally like cynics!

        The good part is that, as you know, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial is visited by scores of people on any ordinary day, to remember the fallen (of my generation, I might add).

        • 67 Alycee (@jazziz2)
          May 24, 2014 at 5:22 pm

          I had consider they might be reserved; however, when I was in DC (back in the stone age) folks that were standing would have been invited to sit prior to the principal speaker stepping to the podium.

          The empty seats don’t reflect poorly on the admin; reflects on the general public who pays lip service to those who made the ultimate sacrifice, and not much else…

          • 68 jacquelineoboomer
            May 24, 2014 at 8:07 pm

            True on your “lip service” comment. I know when I visited the Vietnam Wall (also in the stone age), I walked along practically bent in half, sobbing my eyes out. Didn’t even “know” anyone who had been lost in that war, but I felt their losses just the same.

  20. 69 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    @JoyAnnReid

    Twitter feed is interesting this afternoon.

    Funny she has a show M-F and didn’t do such a show as MHP did…..per her tweets. She said that MSM is not providing enough information? She is part of the media. Should charity in her case, Not begin with her, starting with The Reid Report M-F?

  21. 72 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    This may have been posted already …

    Presidential Proclamation — Prayer for Peace, Memorial Day, 2014

    Constant in the American narrative is the story of men and women who loved our country so deeply they were willing to give their all to keep it safe and free …

    … The security that lets us live in peace, the prosperity that allows us to pursue our dreams, the freedom that we cherish — these were earned by the blood and the sacrifices of patriots who went before. This Memorial Day, as we near the end of more than a decade of war, let us never forget their service and always be worthy of the sacrifices made in our name. And today and every day, let us pray for and hold close the families of the fallen …

  22. 73 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/world/europe/belgium-jewish-museum-shooting/

    (CNN) — Three people were killed and another was seriously injured in a shooting Saturday at the Jewish Museum of Belgium in central Brussels, Belgian Interior Minister Joelle Milquet told CNN affiliate Bel RTL.
    The circumstances of the shooting have raised suspicions that it may have been an anti-Semitic attack.
    Milquet, who was in the area, told CNN affiliate Bel RTL that a person arrived by car at the museum, entered and quickly opened fire before leaving the scene. The injured person was taken to a hospital, Milquet said.

  23. May 24, 2014 at 3:09 pm
    • 75 dotster3
      May 24, 2014 at 5:12 pm

      I share that thought. It will be interesting to learn where the Ca. shooter got his gun.

  24. 80 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Oh, Canada! At common purposes with America, in so many ways. Posting for CanadaBarb and our other Canadian friends at TOD.

    **

    Canada’s Afghanistan Memorial Honors Shared Sacrifice

    WASHINGTON, May 23, 2014 – Yesterday, at an evening ceremony honoring the shared service and sacrifices of Canadians and Americans during the long war in Afghanistan, military leaders from both nations spoke at the commencement of Canada’s Afghanistan Memorial Vigil.

    The ceremony that took place in the courtyard of the Embassy of Canada here was an hour-long event with a Canadian Honor Guard, attended by family members and colleagues of the American fallen, and officials of the Canadian and U.S. Armed Forces.

    Navy Adm. James A. Winnefeld Jr., vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called it a privilege to gather together with “treasured allies, the Canadian people, who honor us by honoring our fallen brothers and sisters in arms who served alongside them in Afghanistan.”

    http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=122318

  25. May 24, 2014 at 3:24 pm
  26. 84 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 3:25 pm
  27. May 24, 2014 at 3:25 pm
  28. May 24, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Chips, I must learn to speak ‘Danny’. Love that language. T-shirt is too cute!

  29. May 24, 2014 at 3:26 pm
  30. 89 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Ooooh…someone is letting Jon Karl have it on Twitter…. LOL! A thing of beauty..

  31. May 24, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Veterans’ Health Care is Still the Best

    by BooMan
    Sat May 24th, 2014 at 09:21:08 AM EST

    It was difficult for me to watch my brother Phil testify before Bernie Sanders’ Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee last week because he talked about the death of his wife, Robin, and how that experience led him to investigate the nation’s health care system. Robin was younger than I am now when she died of an aggressive form of breast cancer. Her loss was a brutal and unfair blow to both my brother and our entire family, and seeing him testify about her in front of the whole nation made me very emotional.

    Phil’s journey into our health care system began with that tragedy, and he concluded that the Veterans’ health care system was the best-performing system in the country. He still feels that way.

    Ezra Klein: You titled your book on the Veteran’s Health Administration “The Best Care Anywhere.” Do you still believe that’s true?

    Phil Longman: To the specific issue at hand on whether or not there were secret waiting lists at Phoenix and possibly other hospitals, we just don’t know. There’s strong evidence that employees at those facilities engaged in some kind of gaming of their performance metrics. But we’re still waiting for the investigation to finish.

    But the big question with these stories about the VA is, “compared to what?” This scandal wouldn’t exist if the VA didn’t have performance metrics on its employees. If it didn’t measure or care whether veterans get prompt appointments it could just do what the rest of the health-care system has done and not hold people responsible for these metrics. Now, certain people seem to have cheated on this metric. But that’s far better than what goes on in the rest of the health-care system where no one is accountable for this at all.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2014/5/24/9218/10810

  32. 93 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 3:40 pm
  33. 96 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 3:44 pm
  34. 98 Desertflower
    May 24, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Google Senate Bill 1982 and you will see a littney of entries from the Heritage Action to ‘email your senators to oppose the veterans omnibus bill ( S.1082) take that info and make this the ‘connect the dot ‘moment for so many people still thinking that republicans ever gave two shits about veterans! They never did and they never will. This Memorial Day, show American vets who has their backs.

    • 99 Desertflower
      May 24, 2014 at 5:12 pm

      By the way. I bet dollars to donuts that Heritage scored their votes. Only Heller and Moran voted to pass this with the Dems. The rest of the R’s are pretending to care about those that fought for this country

  35. 100 idon
    May 24, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    So the President’s playing “golf” today. uh oh!

    • 101 carolyn
      May 24, 2014 at 5:22 pm

      Yeah, “uh oh” to the nuts….I know you mean that. These people aren’t old enough to remember Ike. He practically lived on the golf course! In fact I think he was on the golf course, in Denver, when he had his heart attack. At that time people just thought…..”good, he’s getting away from the stress of the office.” NOW………flames! Of course, no one censure GWB for playing golf….and he never worked!

  36. 102 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 5:13 pm
  37. 103 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Earlier toady AM, I had tuned in to CNN 2X and nothing on the Rodger CA shootings.

    The CNN Online, yes.

    But Now, CNN is now on it non-stop.

    • 104 carolyn
      May 24, 2014 at 5:25 pm

      Itzkowitz’s tweet is an excellent idea. Choose a day during the school year when people are NOT on vacation, and commemorate all the people lost to our dangerous gun laws in every state. Each state capital have a ceremony wherein the names of those killed are read, like the 9-11 memorials, and the OKC Murrah memorials.
      I think people would be staggered at the numbers.

      • 105 Nena20409
        May 24, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        Yes indeed.

        Since the assassination of JFK on Nov 22nd, 1963, well over a Million Americans have been killed due to gun violence. The number of the wounded is double that and the number of those rendered to some type of confinement is in the thousands.

        The over one million is larger than Americans killed in all American wars.

  38. 107 Nena20409
    May 24, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ben-carson-whats-happening-with-the-veterans-is-a-gift-from-god/

    As much as some conservatives seem to be enjoying the latest Obama Administration scandal involving the Department of Veterans Affairs, no one actually thinks it’s a good thing that veterans are dying because they have to wait too long for care, right? During an appearance on Fox News Saturday, Dr. Ben Carson described the current situation with veterans as a “gift from God.”

    “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider,” Carson said, making the now common equivalency between the VA and the Affordable Care Act. “And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world with are you going to do it with the entire population?”

    /////

    God’s gift? Pray tell, how does this wicked get to that conclusion?

  39. 108 Jovie
    May 24, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    The media is in cahoots with the republicans.

    Ciao! :)

  40. 123 taiping1
    May 24, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    To Chips.

  41. 126 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    BOOM – more of our President’s year of action! :)

  42. 127 dotster3
    May 24, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Interesting new details about shooter and his family……

  43. 129 JER
    May 24, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    President Obama is back from golf.


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